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Speaker 1: wisdom that you have, very knowledgeable about the game of football.

427
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,200
Speaker 1: Why the hell do you get in the TV instead

428
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 1: of coaching? UM, Well, that means I get to share

429
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 1: with more people. I honestly, UM, you know as a coach. Um,

430
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,119
Speaker 1: my dad's a coach, So coaches in my blood. I

431
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,359
Speaker 1: don't deny that. And I know I could be a

432
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 1: good coach, but I don't want to give continue to

433
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 1: give football my all, my whole, my whole heart and

434
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,920
Speaker 1: my emotions because I know what it takes to win,

435
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,119
Speaker 1: and I know you got to be all in and

436
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,679
Speaker 1: I know when I lose what I'm like. I'm not

437
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:23,400
Speaker 1: always pleasant. I understand them. I'm not perfect. But for me,

438
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,719
Speaker 1: just to be able to talk the game has been

439
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,679
Speaker 1: so much more pleasant because I get to be around

440
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,679
Speaker 1: the game all the time, especially being and you know,

441
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,440
Speaker 1: working with the SEC network. I'm I'm talking college football

442
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 1: all the time, and so college is just a gateway

443
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 1: to the NFL, and you know, I get to be

444
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 1: around the game, I get to travel on the weekends.

445
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 1: I got an awesome gig with the network, and it's

446
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 1: been really cool. But I always believe that the media

447
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,719
Speaker 1: was the enemy. Like that's what I was taught. You know,

448
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 1: you gotta be careful what you say to the me.

449
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 1: You gotta be careful with what you give them, because

450
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 1: they're going to change it and put it in twisted

451
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 1: however they want to, and that's not who you want

452
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 1: to be with. They were like the dark side, and

453
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,119
Speaker 1: now I'm part of the dark side. So it's a

454
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,679
Speaker 1: little Some of them are evil, I know most of

455
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 1: them are not evil. Most most of them are not evil.

456
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 1: I will apologize to all those reporters. But when you're

457
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 1: a young twenty two year old in the league, you're

458
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:24,719
Speaker 1: you're taught like they are the enemy. They stay away,

459
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 1: don't tell him nothing. As I got older, I got

460
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 1: to know a few of a few media personnel in Chicago,

461
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 1: and it was like this person had my number and

462
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,199
Speaker 1: like I could give them an interview but it was

463
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 1: real and they could critique me professionally and it didn't

464
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 1: make it personal or anything like that. But there was

465
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 1: there's there's a few people that are in it for themselves.

466
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 1: My only thing is that I can be critical. But

467
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 1: as long as I'm I'm fair, right, I'm fair and

468
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 1: I'm honest, and as long as I tells up from

469
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 1: what my I see, then like, how can you be mad?

470
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 1: Fans take it personal, but players and coaches don't. There's

471
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: just so much better about all that. We got something

472
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 1: in common with Louisiana, right. I went to school there,

473
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 1: you played there professionally, and recently I got inducted to

474
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,640
Speaker 1: the Louisiana Sports Hall of Fame, and then you got

475
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:23,880
Speaker 1: inducted into the Saints Hall of Fame. I was mad

476
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 1: that I didn't actually get a ticket to the to

477
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 1: the event because I wanted to see you at the event.

478
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 1: I went to the I went to the party that

479
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 1: you had, and it was dope. Had an amazing time,

480
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 1: amazing I held your son the whole night. I put

481
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,719
Speaker 1: him to sleep. I just rocked him to sleep. Um,

482
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 1: tell me about that night. Tell me about that experience, dude.

483
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: It was cool, And the best thing about it was

484
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 1: that it was a celebration of me and that all

485
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 1: my accomplishments and that I actually felt appreciated by the

486
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 1: organization that turned their back on me. And then I

487
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: got to come back three years later and kind of

488
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 1: let bygones be bygones and then all of a sudden

489
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,479
Speaker 1: and they give you your flowers, right, And so I

490
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 1: was very appreciative that that I got to go in

491
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: while I'm still um here. Also, my kids get a

492
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: little bit older and they actually understand it and they

493
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 1: appreciate it, and they actually really really thought it was cool.

494
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,719
Speaker 1: Like my son, for my older son, for the first time,

495
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 1: I was like, Dad, you're like good to him. I'm

496
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 1: just bad because he never got to see me play ball.

497
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 1: But he was like, man, you were like good at that,

498
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,120
Speaker 1: Like that's really cool. Like so I actually appreciated that.

499
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 1: I appreciate that I got to take a picture with

500
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: even soul because he was just born. He was a baby,

501
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: but he was still there and so I got this

502
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: picture and so I have this memory. And for me,

503
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: it was more important to thank those and to be

504
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 1: proud and talk about those that actually put an invested

505
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: into roman Um. But for me, it was more of

506
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,919
Speaker 1: a celebration by my parents, my wife, and my kids,

507
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 1: my family, and really talking about all that they meant

508
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 1: to me and that I wanted to celebrate them in

509
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 1: this time when everybody wanted to celebrate me. So for me,

510
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,959
Speaker 1: that's what it was about. Peanut, and uh, it's really special.

511
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,919
Speaker 1: I got some pictures from it. But other than that, dude,

512
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 1: it was just good to have another party with my homies.

513
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: I mean, Chicago needs to do theirs right, bros. And

514
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: then you can get yours too, and hopefully you'll be

515
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame and I get to go

516
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,479
Speaker 1: there to canon with you and celebrate you and yours.

517
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,679
Speaker 1: So that that's all I care about, bro. It's just

518
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: you know, the relationships of this game allows us to

519
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: have is way more important than any play, any tackle,

520
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: any interception that you'll ever remember, because those are the

521
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: things that you carry with you, like you can take

522
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 1: the game ball, but it's just on the wall. It's

523
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 1: just yeah, yeah, no doubt. Well, look, we gotta we

524
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: gotta pay some bills and when we come back, we'll

525
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: come back with some quicker questions, Peanut. Two part question

526
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: for you, what trade do you believe best defined you

527
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,199
Speaker 1: as a player in the NFL. The other part of

528
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 1: it is what trade best defines you? Now? Is it

529
00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 1: the same trade or is it a different trade? I

530
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: would say, uh my, my superpower or trade would be manifestation. Okay,

531
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: we could go ahead, I could whatever, whatever I thought,

532
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: whatever I could think of or dream or whateverever goal

533
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: I would set, I obtained it. If it was something

534
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: that I truly and I truly wanted, whether it be

535
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl, you know, something individual based that I could,

536
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: um make it happen. I could make it happen. And

537
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 1: for the most part, all individual goals. You know, I

538
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: wanted to get a master's degree. I wanted to graduate

539
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: in three and a half years. I wanted to get

540
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 1: drafted on the first day. I wanted to run a

541
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 1: four or four or forty. I wanted to make a

542
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. I wanted to be all first Team, All

543
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 1: Pro I wanted all all these things that I told

544
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,959
Speaker 1: myself I would manifestate this thing and my my goals

545
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: in my brain, and I obtained them. You know, so

546
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,360
Speaker 1: I gotta I got a silly, silly, silly question for you.

547
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: When did you start developing gray hair? Um? In eighth grade,

548
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: I got my first gray hair. According to my barber.

549
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: Um he told me. Um he was cutting my hair,

550
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: was like, dude, you got a gray hair up here

551
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: in the back. And I was like, how, there's no way.

552
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: He's like, oh yeah, I'm telling you. I'm up here

553
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: it's gray. I was like, well, are you gonna pull

554
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 1: it out or something like you gotta get rid of it? Right.

555
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: He's like, no, no, no, I heard that's bad luck.

556
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: Like if you do that, like two or three more come.

557
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: So I was like, all right, we'll just you know,

558
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: don't worry about it. Like it's just one of them.

559
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: And they've literally been coming in ever since then. So

560
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: whatever it is, and what thirteen fourteen gray hair? And

561
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: so that's why I've never died it. I won't do

562
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: it because everybody that knows me since eighth and ninth

563
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: grade have known me with gray hair or a little

564
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: bit of gray hair, and I don't I never wanted

565
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: them to be like, oh Roman made it. Oh he

566
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: changed when I when I met you, when I met

567
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: you with p A O, I thought you were the

568
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: thirteen years. I was like, wait, he you look like Obama.

569
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: You look like President Obama after one term. So the

570
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: funny thing is is that, so you know, you win

571
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: the super Bowl, this is another little great story. We

572
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: gotta get this in real quick. So because you bring

573
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: up Obama, we win the super Bowl? All right? When

574
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: the super Bowl Obama comes up to me, it's like hey, um,

575
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: he taps me up. He's like, oh, you must be

576
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: the old guy on the team. I'm like, everybody in

577
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: the room dies laughing because I was just my fourth

578
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: year in the league, bro and he was like, oh,

579
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: you must be the old guy on the team. Like, okay, man,

580
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: I see you. I'm like, no, not at all, Like

581
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: not at all, sir, sir, I don't think you've ever

582
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: told me that. Literally, the whole room died laughing. So

583
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: then he keeps walking shaking guy's hand. He meets one

584
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: of my guys, Remy a Adele, who had like this

585
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: crazy mohawk, like straight mohawk straight up, and he was like, hey,

586
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: at least you ain't got this guy's haircut. I was

587
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: like yeah, I said, yeah, you know, you kind of

588
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: looking like me though, you know, I mean real talk

589
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: because he's started going real great at that time too.

590
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: So hey, look, man, I felt cool because Brock said

591
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: more to me than he said to anybody else. All right,

592
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: I got another one for you. Earlier this season we

593
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: did uh sit down and was on the podcast was

594
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: Thomas Q. Jones. And so he thinks he deserves a

595
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: lot more credit. I think he deserves all the credit

596
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: for you perfecting the peanut punch. Uh you know, he

597
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: said you would just constantly chase him down. It was

598
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: all these other things. We got some video. I want

599
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: to pull up the video for it. I want you

600
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: to take a listen and then tell me what you think.

601
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: All right, I think some of the peanuts punch. I

602
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: deserved some of the credit for that because because I

603
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: have uh actually I have nerve damage in my both

604
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: of my elbows because he him punching the ball out

605
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: of my arms and bract this every day, chasing me down. Um.

606
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: You know. So he practiced a lot of that peanut

607
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: punch on me and irritated me a lot. But he

608
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: also helped me make sure I'm holding them to the ball.

609
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: So we helped each other. Yeah, he's not lying. I

610
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: think he and every other offensive person on the Bears

611
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: Carolina as well, they helped me perfect that peanut punch.

612
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: It was something that I don't know. I was just

613
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: thinking outside the box, trying to be different. You know,

614
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: I wasn't the big guy to hit you to separate

615
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: you from the ball. I'm gonna just punch it out

616
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: my very first NFL game, Um, I gotta I gotta

617
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: peanut punch. I forced a fumble. It was something that

618
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: I was I was intentional about doing it all the time.

619
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: It was just I thought about it. It was on

620
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: my mind. It was get the ball out, get the

621
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: ball out. It was respect for your head coach to

622
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: literally walk over to him like, hey, I need you

623
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: to get the ball back right out. We gotta win

624
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: this game. Also another way to say, like Sean Payton

625
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: when we were in New Orleans literally playing against Chicago Bears,

626
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: He's like, look, guys, this week, no yack. I don't

627
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: need anybody getting any extra yards. This guy, Peanut Tillman,

628
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: I don't want to see the ball in the ground.

629
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: I don't want to see it. And you still got

630
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: the ball out. So it was like, yeah, it's still

631
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: got the ball out. So it just was one of

632
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: those things. It irritated a lot of people. Peanut, I

633
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: got one more question and then I'm gonna be done

634
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: with you. Then you can ask me question if you

635
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: want to. When Charles Peanut Tilman is an old, krusty

636
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: Ashley knuckle having guy, what would you like people to

637
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: say about Peanut Tilman's football career? I would like them

638
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: to say that Charles Peanut Tillman was a guy who

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00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: didn't talk a whole lot. He didn't give the greatest speeches,

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00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: but he came to work every day with his helmet

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00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: and his lunch and he just worked. You know. He

642
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: wasn't the biggest, he wasn't the fastest. He was an

643
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: underdog in life, and he always came out on top

644
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,959
Speaker 1: because he put the work in. He loved his teammates,

645
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: would do anything for his teammates because that's that's to me,

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00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: that's what this game is about. This is about team

647
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: and family. I would I would, I would hope people

648
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: would just say he was the ultimate team player. The

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00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: same to you when you're bald, because you're already old

650
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: and crusty. What are people gonna say about? What are

651
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: people gonna say about Roman Harbor? Um? For me? Um,

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00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: what I would love for him to say is that, um,

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00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,959
Speaker 1: that I was a prose pro that you know, I

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00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: was constantly doing the little things right. I studied, I

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00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: worked hard, um, and that if I was a pro, Like,

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00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: that's the ultimate compliment for me is that, man, he

657
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: was a real pro. He was a dude. Um, And

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00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: I'm fine with that, you know how we do the

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00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore in in in the past, who's on your

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00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: who's on your personal Mount Rushmore. Well, I gotta put

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00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: my dad up there because he was the first one

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00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,720
Speaker 1: to wear number forty one and uh and I didn't

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00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: even know that. And he's just a great dude. We've

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00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: become so much closer as we've both gotten older. Uh,

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00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: just because I'm no longer just like his little son. Um.

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00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: You know now he looks at me like a man

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00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: with responsibility. Um. And I can't have my dad up

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00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: there without my mom um. And then probably my wife

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00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: because she's been my biggest fan, she's my hardest critic.

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00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: And then I would probably say it would be unfair

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00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,720
Speaker 1: to put one of my coaches up there without the others.

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00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: Coach Clark, my high school coach, means the absolute world

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00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: to me. But I would just pick the University of

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Speaker 1: Alabama up there instead because I'm so roll tied through

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00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: and through, like that's where I'm from, that's the state

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00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 1: I'm at, like it just it means so much to me.

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00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: So it's all in my background right now. Uh So

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00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: I would say those to be my four mom, dad,

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00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: my wife, and the University of Alabama. Okay, I was doing,

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00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: did you tell me your personal your mount um? My

681
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: dad And I'm not I swear I'm not copying you.

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00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: But my dad was my pops. My pops was in

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Speaker 1: the military, and as a kid, I thought my dad

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00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: was rollblocked from g I Joe, you know what I'm saying.

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00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: I just thought it was the coolest thing him being

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00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 1: in the army and us moving overseas. So my my

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00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: pops was my My pops was my hero, still is

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00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: to this day. Love them to death. My mom for

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00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: her caring and loving personality and just I'm a mama's boy,

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00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: and she she kind of gave me that grit. So

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Speaker 1: those are two. I'd say number three would be a

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00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 1: good friend of mine named John Right great mentor taught

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00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: me a lot about the whole mental toughness. I think

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Speaker 1: the last one is Jackie, I would say, because I

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00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: think she's challenged me in so many ways that I

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00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: didn't know. And when I played, she would, you know,

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00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: she would send me these texts and it would just say,

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Speaker 1: be amazing. And I don't think I really noticed how

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00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: powerful those were until I stopped getting them, because I

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00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: stopped playing the biggest critic didn't always want to hear it,

701
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:36,280
Speaker 1: but they're right. She was right, she is right, and yeah,

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00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: the biggest, biggest critic. And I would say her and yeah.

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Speaker 1: That being said, we talk a lot offline. I think

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Speaker 1: I know what this will be, but I want you

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Speaker 1: to fill in the blank with this one. Right now,

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00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: my life is blank, I would say a blessing. And

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00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 1: it's really it's really truly because, um, you know, I'm

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00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: a daddy, daycare guy. You know me in my opinion, bro,

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00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: I'm top three, top five dad in the country, like

710
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: and right now, not having football, I'm all in on

711
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: being a basketball dad. I take pride enjoying that every

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00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: single day. Um. I love picking my kids up, I

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00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: love being involved, and uh, all I'm trying to do

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00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: is just be the best version of myself every day.

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00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: I don't worry. I don't blame myself for all the

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00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: mess ups anymore. So that's what I would say, Man,

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00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,240
Speaker 1: my life is a blessing. I would ask the same

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00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: thing your life, Peanut. Tilman's life today is I'm comfortable. Um,

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00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: I don't always know if that's a good thing. No,

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00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:41,760
Speaker 1: it's because I'm I'm growing, I'm involving um, you're learning

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00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: to be comfortable? Is that what you're saying that, which

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00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: is no, No, I'm comfortable now, I'm I'm I'm I'm

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00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: comfortable in the in the space that I'm in. Well,

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00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: I like that because for a long time you're a

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00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: rat racing it. You don't know if you're trying to

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00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: do this, you're trying to do that, you're changing these things,

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00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: and for you to say that I'm comfortable is a

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00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: good thing. It's a good thing. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

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00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: All right, We're good comfortable. Well, Peanut, thanks, thank you

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00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: for having me and uh, thank you for coming on

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00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 1: to my podcast and let me interview you. So I

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00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Thank you to all the listeners out there

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00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 1: with me and Peanut. Probably went a little long. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: we can edit this thing down. If can't, who cares,

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00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: tune in next week it will be even better, all right.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you guys to spread the word talk,

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00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: tell a friend to tell a friend to tell another

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00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: friend to come out. Check us out, listen to us,

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00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: give us a rating of review, and make sure you

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00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: hit that button follow an Apple podcast or anywhere else

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Speaker 1: that you listen to your your podcast. I heart radio apps,

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Speaker 1: so thank you guys for tuning in. We'll see you later. Peace,