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Speaker 1: I listened to the Black Guy Who Tips podcast because

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Speaker 1: Rod and Karen are hot.

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Speaker 2: Niggas want to try. Niggas want to lie, The niggas

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Speaker 2: want to Why when niggas want to die? All of

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Speaker 2: is pain. All I feels rain. How can I maintain?

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Speaker 2: We'll mas shit on my brain. I resort to violence.

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Speaker 2: My niggas moving silence like you don't know what style

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Speaker 2: is niggas. The wildest my niggas is you win it,

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Speaker 2: you want it, then come and get it. Took it,

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Speaker 2: then we s put it. You're fucking right, we did it.

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Speaker 2: What the fuck you gonna do when we run up?

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Speaker 2: When do we run up on? You? Fucking with the

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Speaker 2: wrong crew. Don't know what we're going through. Hey, welcome

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Speaker 2: to the black Out Tests podcast. Y'alls, Rod As.

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Speaker 3: Karen. That's all I want to hear. When I hear

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Speaker 3: him rap, I just want to girl in the background.

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Speaker 2: And it's uh Sunday, Sunday. Sunday, Sunday, first day of

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Speaker 2: uh well, not the first day of the week. We

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Speaker 2: did the feedback show for Saturday, but second day of

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: Thank you everybody that uh you know comes to the

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Speaker 2: long feedback show yesterday. It was three and a half hours.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 5: Y'all had a lot of stuff to say, and we

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Speaker 3: First time donators email us, phone calls. We think you.

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Speaker 3: It's one of our favorite shows because we don't really

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Speaker 2: Yep, And of course, rest in peace. Taylor Niggroon who

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Speaker 2: was an actor who played He was that guy type

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Speaker 2: shit like that. He died at fifty seven after long

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Speaker 3: Oh I know who he is.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's one of these when you hit the name,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I put his picture in the chat for people

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Speaker 3: He's another If you watch movies, you've seen him before,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, man, he's gone. But yeah, you definitely

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's years ago. I loved that movie.

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Speaker 2: But that's a guilty pleasure movie for me for show.

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Speaker 2: But this is the Blackout Tips. Guys. You can find

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Speaker 3: And so that has a lot to do with why

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Speaker 5: But yeah, that's why I couldn't be no video person,

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Speaker 2: It's terrible, man, Like I saw that shit and I

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Speaker 2: war ceeingn is. Randy Kage called it an unforgettable image

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00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,880
Speaker 2: forever associated with this harbor attack. Mirror, the guy who

435
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 2: filmed it didn't even know he was filming it at first.

436
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 2: He went to his window because there were gunshots that

437
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 2: interrupted his emailing. He initially thought there was a bank

438
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,200
Speaker 2: robby in progress. When he spotted the rifle wilder men

439
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,680
Speaker 2: in black walking down the street, he assumed they were

440
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 2: swapped police going to help a stricten comrade. Add to

441
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:54,479
Speaker 2: his heart, they were not. A police rushed to. As

442
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 2: police rushed to the sea, Mirror downloaded the video, like

443
00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 2: I said, handed over to the officers. Then he uploaded

444
00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:03,200
Speaker 2: the Facebook and to the world he's in this. He's

445
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 2: a fifty year old dude guy and his parents were

446
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 2: refugees from fastest fascist Spain and he still had a

447
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 2: loss to explain what push him to share the chilling

448
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 2: video with his twenty five hundred Facebook friends. There's no answer,

449
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 2: he said. Perhaps a decade of social network had trained

450
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 2: him to share whatever he saw. I take a video,

451
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 2: I take a photo of a cat, I put it

452
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,120
Speaker 2: on Facebook. It was the same stupid reflex. The videos

453
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:33,439
Speaker 2: republication by media organizations around the world has anguished Maribath family.

454
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because they gotta watch their loved one die

455
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:37,920
Speaker 2: over and over again.

456
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 5: It's not a game to them. It's bigger than you

457
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 5: just posting something on social media.

458
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 3: It is a larger and larger issue.

459
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 5: And it's, like I said, it's just one of those

460
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,199
Speaker 5: things where I think it's a generational thing too. I

461
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 5: really think that a lot of people in their twenties,

462
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 5: I believe. I don't know how this person is, but

463
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 5: for a lot of people, this is normal. Like you

464
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,640
Speaker 5: see shit, you just you just turned on videos, turn

465
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,360
Speaker 5: on the camera. It's like an instant, like you said,

466
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 5: almost like a literally for a lot of people, it

467
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,959
Speaker 5: is an instant reflex. It's not for me, but it

468
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 5: is an instant reflex which shit happened. Because I want

469
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 5: to be the first. I want to be you know,

470
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 5: the one to get it on my blog, to get it,

471
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 5: you know, because now everybody wants to be a quote

472
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 5: unquote superstar. So anything to get people your way, you

473
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 5: do whatever it takes nowadays, and so it's just one

474
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 5: of those things where that's not always a good thing,

475
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 5: and sometimes it's backfire.

476
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 3: Sometimes you have to deal with the consequences of posting

477
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 3: shit on social media.

478
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,479
Speaker 2: He said, how dare you? The brother said, how did

479
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 2: he take that video and broadcast it? I heard his voice,

480
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,400
Speaker 2: I recognize him. I saw him get slaughtered. I heard

481
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 2: him get slaughtered. I hear him get slaughtered every day.

482
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,880
Speaker 2: One academic said the video had stripped Marabad of his dignity.

483
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 2: The images show a man diminished, said Ajia Cuzak, a

484
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 2: research fellow at the University of London, in a recent

485
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 2: editorial for The Hoven and Post Mirror wanted Mirabeth's family

486
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 2: to know he was very sorry, saying that he had

487
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 2: turned down offers to buy the footage and that he

488
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 2: wanted media organizations to blur mAb's image before ruining it

489
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 2: running it, But many, he said, just broadcast unedited the

490
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:13,439
Speaker 2: footage without permission. Of course, the AP received Mirror's authorization

491
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 2: to run the video and condition that it cut the

492
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 2: scene of the officer's death. Some argue that the video

493
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 2: plays a useful role by exposing terrorists's heartlessness. Mir said

494
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 2: that one official told him that the video helped galvanize

495
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 2: French public opinion. For me, the police been killed. It's

496
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 2: like a war video photo, Mier said, at one point,

497
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 2: comparing it to fame photographer Robert Cappa's controversial picture of

498
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 2: a soldier being shot dead before during the Spanish Civil War. Nevertheless,

499
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 2: Mier said that if he could do it all again,

500
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 2: he would have cut the video off Facebook. On Facebook,

501
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 2: there's no confidentiality. It's a lesson for me. So, you know.

502
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 2: The thing is too, I think we often get caught

503
00:24:55,520 --> 00:25:00,040
Speaker 2: up in these situations where people just aren't human to us,

504
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 2: and like the things we're seeing just aren't real because

505
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 2: you see so much shit on TV.

506
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 5: Now my family member, now my mama, now my dad,

507
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,360
Speaker 5: and now my brother. You know so, and also when

508
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 5: people see shit and they go, well, this has never

509
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 5: happened to me, So why would I care?

510
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I just think that you do care, You

511
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 2: just don't think about it. I don't think this guy's

512
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 2: like a piece of shit that just like a Popuarizi,

513
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 2: I think. But I think to a large extent, we're

514
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 2: all popuarizi at this point. You know, we're all kind

515
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 2: of because so much stuff goes viral and so many

516
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 2: people get famous and get money off of it. I

517
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 2: think a lot of people have kind of given themselves

518
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 2: over to that mentality, like, well, I need to film this,

519
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 2: I could have sold this footage, I could have did something.

520
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 2: You know, I'll be the person that gets interviewed for

521
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 2: filming the most famous thing, you.

522
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 5: Know, because I think a lot of people are We're

523
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 5: in a genre now. A lot of people are like, well,

524
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 5: whatever it takes to be a quote unquote superstar, but

525
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 5: a definition of a superstar. Everybody has a definition of

526
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 5: a superstar. Well no, no, no, I take that bad famous,

527
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 5: not really superstar. What I want to be famous. I

528
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 5: want to be known. I want people to recognize me.

529
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 5: I want to be somebody. And I think a lot

530
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 5: of people have put their self worth and will sell

531
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 5: their their dignity and everything else associated with it to

532
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 5: get to the point where they're.

533
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 3: Quote unquote recognized. And everybody draws that line at different places,

534
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 3: and like I said, I don't have that thing in

535
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,919
Speaker 3: me that goes whatever it takes, no matter what I somebody.

536
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't think that's what he was doing.

537
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 2: I don't think that's what he was doing. I don't

538
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 2: think it's like, whatever it takes, I can't wait to

539
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 2: get famous. I just really think he just didn't think

540
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 2: about it. I think the way you post when we

541
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 2: go out to eating, you will post pictures of your food.

542
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 2: I think he did it like that, like you know

543
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 2: what I mean.

544
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 3: And didn't really think, damn, this is crazy.

545
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:51,120
Speaker 2: Wow, I look at this.

546
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 3: Y'all okay, and really didn't think about because.

547
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 2: He don't have nothing to promote. It's not like he

548
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,880
Speaker 2: this didn't help him in any way. I just think

549
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 2: we're all kind of a bit more insensitive now than

550
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 2: we used to be social media sharing all experiences, like

551
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 2: we think of experiences as a thing that happened to us,

552
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 2: you know, And him posting that video that guy, you know,

553
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 2: I'm sure he didn't think of it in the moment

554
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 2: of is even with the extreme as it was, as

555
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 2: like this is how I'm gonna get famous. I think

556
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 2: he just thought, wow, look at this, crazy shit that

557
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 2: just happen outside my apartment, y'all. You know, I got

558
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 2: video of it and just crazy and then it was

559
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 2: like nah, actually, and it's not really his fault, but

560
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 2: there's so many agendas attached to the shit true that

561
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 2: you can't be aware of while you're doing it. You know,

562
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 2: you didn't even know that was a terrorist attack. You

563
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 2: didn't even know. I mean, you could have thought it

564
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 2: was a fucking movie band filmed. Who knows what the

565
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 2: fuck you thought. You put it up there, and all

566
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 2: of a sudden you got people going good, just a

567
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 2: galvanized parents against the Muslims and this will unite us

568
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 2: all this a show that that dude died a cowardly

569
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 2: death and this will hurt his family. There's no way

570
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 2: that went through your mind when you posted that shit.

571
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 2: You just because it sounds like he posted it, and

572
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 2: then fifteen minutes later he thought people giving comments, people

573
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 2: are starting to give other perspectives, and now it's like, whoops,

574
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 2: and did that?

575
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 5: I didn't mean for it to go to this this far,

576
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 5: But yeah, I do agree with what you're saying. People

577
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 5: do o very a lot open now they used to be.

578
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 5: And it's one of those things where listening to the article.

579
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 5: He did it. Then he thought about it and it

580
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 5: was like, I don't think this is a good idea,

581
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 5: but like you said, by the time you go and

582
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 5: take shit down, it's a lot larger than you ever

583
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 5: imagined for it to be versus other people who do

584
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 5: it for the other reasons I was explaining it before.

585
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, they also am like they France too, which is

586
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 2: a TV channel there, released video of the police storming

587
00:28:53,160 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 2: Culture Supermarket, which that another person Omedy Klibali. I don't

588
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 2: know if I'm pronouncing it right, Kolobi. He had taken

589
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 2: fourteen people hostage. The video showed several dozen police firing

590
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 2: into the store topps and flash grenades until Klibali, who

591
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 2: earlier this week allegedly killed a Paris police officer, runs out.

592
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 2: The video pauses before he's killed, but they report that

593
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 2: he was shot sixty times. Seconds later the video resumes,

594
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 2: Terrified hostages were seen fleeing the market. Four hostages were

595
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 2: killed and five more were injured during the standoff, where

596
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 2: he reportedly seized as part of a coordinated attack with

597
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 2: the two Charlie Hebdo suspects this Culture Supermarket. Two police

598
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 2: officers were also injured in the raid. Five hostages escaped unharmed.

599
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 2: So yeah, it was like, you know, this shit just

600
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 2: went crazy, man. Like it was obviously like a group

601
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 2: and they just decided, Man, we get some guns to

602
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 2: start terrorizing folk, you know. But yeah, it was like

603
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 2: a separate hostage situation. I think there were like two

604
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 2: going on at the same time.

605
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 5: You had the people that they were going after. Then

606
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 5: you had people that was like, hey, y'all go after them,

607
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 5: We're gonna jack these people up over here. That you

608
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 5: got people like hey, I'm just minding my goddamn business.

609
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 5: All of a sudden, I'm a fucking hostage.

610
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 2: I think that's still looking for his girlfriend hyatt n.

611
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 2: I guess it's like okay, but uh, yeah, he was

612
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 2: going around like in the mall in the culture market,

613
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 2: going like, y'all know who I am already and.

614
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 3: All the ship some people might not have.

615
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess he's talking to the government because they

616
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 2: did know who he was. They knew that he was

617
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 2: part of this group. They had investigated like one of

618
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 2: the brothers and him before. But yeah, he said you

619
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 2: know who I am as he opened fire. YEP. So

620
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 2: it's just crazy. It was crazy that it just kept going,

621
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 2: you know, for days, and they eventually stormed and killed them,

622
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 2: but you know, more people died and whatnot. I said

623
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 2: that two outs of standouts in different towns outside of Paris,

624
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 2: but they have ended with police actions and suspects, and

625
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 2: both situations were killed, including two gunmen believed to be

626
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 2: responsible for the fatal attack on the offices of the

627
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 2: satirical newspaper Charlie Vdo. The first out of situation occurred

628
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 2: in the printing factory and involved the Charlie Hebdo suspects.

629
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 2: The second one started later and it took hours to

630
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 2: make a formal link between the two. So this just crazy,

631
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 2: man like, and honestly, not much you can do about it,

632
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 2: you know, even like I saw Bill Maher had, you know,

633
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 2: he was gonna have to talk way in on it.

634
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 2: And I haven't even finished the episode because it was

635
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 2: just fucking disgusting, man like. He basically got a paying

636
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 2: on people that he knew wouldn't present any other descending

637
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 2: point of view and just went in on Muslims and

638
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 2: Islam for fucking twenty minutes, you know, And and it's

639
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 2: so disgusting to me. Because the vast majority of these

640
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 2: people are peacefully coexisting with everybody, and there's this thing

641
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 2: where it's like, well, it's just a bunch of bad ideas.

642
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 2: It's just a bunch of bad ideas, and that's the

643
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 2: real problem. And the people that are don't, that don't

644
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 2: act on the ideas, they still have the same bad ideas.

645
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 2: And I think what he's I've been thinking about it

646
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 2: for a while because I think his obsession with Islam

647
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 2: in particular is kind of calculated. I think what he's

648
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 2: doing because he's kind of anti religion, you know, he's

649
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 2: not like I wouldn't just say he's atheist. I'd say

650
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 2: he's like edtime religion period, and he's pretty extreme on

651
00:32:55,680 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 2: that view. What I think is what he's doing is

652
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 2: he's trying to get people decide, like, Okay, see how

653
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,479
Speaker 2: destructive Islam is. You see the bad ideas that Islam

654
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 2: has about women, about you know, different rights, about the

655
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 2: fact you can kill somebody and all this shit, and

656
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 2: a lot of people seem, you know, like he's trying

657
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 2: to be like a lot of people seem to agree,

658
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 2: but they just don't act on it. You see, you

659
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 2: see that, you see that and I think they he's

660
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 2: getting people because a lot of people are islamophobes, even

661
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 2: if they are Christians or whatever. He's getting people to

662
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 2: at least agree on that part. And then the curveball

663
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 2: is I think eventually he's gonna go, yeah, ain't Christianity's

664
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 2: no different? So why the fuck are y'all okay with that?

665
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 2: I think that's what he's gonna go eventually, because last

666
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 2: night he had a lady on that that was like

667
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 2: a Republican and she was trying to basically separate Christianity

668
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 2: from Islam, like, well, see, these are the people that

669
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 2: are the worst right now. To see my point, it's

670
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 2: a big it's a big difference in the religion and

671
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 2: they're the worst. And Bill, you know that, don't try

672
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 2: to group other religions in with this. This is just this.

673
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 2: Because he was like, yeah, you know, religion is bad,

674
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 2: it's very it can be destructive, it has bad ideas,

675
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 2: and he wasn't only saying Islam at that moment, and

676
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 2: she had to go back and be like, well this

677
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 2: is what you A lot different other religions are fine

678
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 2: and this one's bad. And he's like, you know, this

679
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 2: one's the worst. But that one's you know, but that

680
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 2: they're all kind of bad. And I was just thinking

681
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 2: to myself, like for somebody to be talking about Christianity

682
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 2: not having you know, yeah the blood on his hands,

683
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 2: you just don't know, Yeah, you just don't have any

684
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,760
Speaker 2: historical context to say that shit, or or you're doing

685
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,919
Speaker 2: like freeze tag or whatever, and you're going, you're it

686
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 2: like at this moment, you can't put nothing on us.

687
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 3: Like we didn't do it.

688
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 2: We didn't do anything in the last two to three days,

689
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 2: So it's on you. Islam, fix your shit, right, you know.

690
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 2: It's like the hypocacy of it all is just so

691
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 2: a stud and it's like I said, I had to

692
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 2: turn the shit off. It was too much.

693
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 5: I was just getting angry, right, That's one reason why

694
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 5: I got your front. I hadn't watched that shows.

695
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 7: You.

696
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 5: I don't watch that show because I'm like, I look

697
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 5: at you, go fuck you and just leave, because I'm

698
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 5: like I can't take it, like me personally, you know,

699
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 5: because it's just one of those things where I'm like,

700
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 5: just let people do what they want to do, and

701
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 5: as long as they're not bothering nobody, I don't give

702
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:22,720
Speaker 5: I don't give a what kind of religion?

703
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 2: Well, I don't, right. My thing is that the vast

704
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 2: majority of these people that are Muslim don't do anything

705
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 2: fucked up to people like, they don't. They're not they're

706
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 2: not actively out here killing people and shit. Now, if

707
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 2: you want to talk about someone's religion and it's oppression

708
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 2: of women and all this shit, I agree. I don't

709
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 2: think that that's cool. But I also find that to

710
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 2: be through a theme throughout most religions. So to me,

711
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 2: I've kind of, as a person that's not religious, I've

712
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 2: kind of learned to kind of deal with it. Well,

713
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 2: I'm like that that's ignorant. I don't agree with it.

714
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 2: I think it's fucking stupid. But at the same time,

715
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 2: I don't go, but if a Christian person kills people,

716
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 2: that's a problem with the religion. I go, that's a

717
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 2: problem with that person, Like that person violated those boundaries

718
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 2: of social law that we have, Like that person did that.

719
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 2: Just the same way if a person was an atheist

720
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 2: and they killed a bunch of people, I wouldn't go, Well,

721
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 2: obviously all atheists fucking kill people, Like it's so weird

722
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 2: that they pick those lines. And I think because being

723
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 2: Islamophobic is a place where you can actually gather people

724
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 2: that typically don't agree on shit. You can gather them

725
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 2: all together and galvanize that hatred. That's what Mar's doing.

726
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 2: In my opinion, It's like, hey, I don't care if

727
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 2: you're a Republican, I don't care if you're left, I

728
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 2: don't care whatever. Like, people find this type of fear

729
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 2: mogerine to be less offensive. So even people that you

730
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 2: would consider like, oh, this person is uh, you know,

731
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 2: a religiously tolerant person on the left that not not

732
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 2: with this. It's kind of shit. They decide that Muslims

733
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 2: are the enemy and all Muslims are trying to kill us.

734
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 3: And to me, I don't care what anybody says.

735
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 5: It's a form of racism when you get to this

736
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 5: point where you just like, I don't like this particular

737
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 5: group of people or this to me, because that's the

738
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 5: way it looks, because it's to me, it's bigger than

739
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 5: the religion. It literally focuses on the people more than

740
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 5: the religion. People just use the religion as a fourfront

741
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 5: to hide the racism that they have against a group

742
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 5: of people.

743
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 3: In my mind, so when you do this, you go,

744
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,720
Speaker 3: they all the same, they all look alike, they all

745
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 3: do this, they all do that.

746
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 2: And we saw that Fox thing where the woman actually

747
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,439
Speaker 2: said like, well, you know, they look don't they don't

748
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 2: look like bad guys? Like, h what does that mean?

749
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 2: What color are the bad guys?

750
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 3: Correct?

751
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 2: You know, typically supposed to be, you know, not to

752
00:37:55,160 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 2: mention that, you know. Even more so at a lot

753
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 2: of this stuff, it unifies people under this like common

754
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,720
Speaker 2: shared fear and hatred, and I think it gives people

755
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 2: to dismiss it so that you can say later on, hey,

756
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 2: and then Christians do this shit too. But the problem

757
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 2: for me is attaching it to anybody's religion is kind

758
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 2: of a problem if you're when something isn't systematic. When

759
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 2: it's systematic, I get it, Like when it's like the

760
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 2: practice of slavery, it's a systematic injustice that we're being

761
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:34,399
Speaker 2: perpetrated and justified through a religion. I understand that. When

762
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 2: it's the oppression of women, I understand that. Like I'm

763
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 2: not a person that would go, well, no, it's okay

764
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 2: because it's your religion. I actually don't believe in that.

765
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 2: And anybody that listens to the show knows. I don't

766
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 2: give a fuck if your religion says it's okay to

767
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 2: be homophobic or misogenists or racist, like I don't care

768
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 2: what it says. You know, that's fucked up. But at

769
00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 2: the same time, if someone did something extreme, that's a

770
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 2: totally different argument in my opinion, Like, you know, that's

771
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 2: like saying everybody with bipolar or disorder is gonna kill somebody, Right,

772
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 2: these aren't true. But but to let someone with bipolar

773
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 2: disorder do something violent, and that's the first thing people

774
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 2: run into is all of them. So it's it's very

775
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 2: weird to watch people you know that seem to be

776
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 2: able to operate with nuanced lack it when it comes

777
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 2: to this topic.

778
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 5: Right, and a lot of and a lot of times

779
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 5: the people to go all of them are never in

780
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 5: that all of them group, you know what I'm saying, Like,

781
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 5: you know, like, what the fuck are you talking about?

782
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,919
Speaker 5: Because at one period of time, you know, you would

783
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 5: consider the other two most likely, you know. So it's

784
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 5: just one of those things where people have a tendency

785
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 5: to forget, especially here in the United States.

786
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 3: A lot of cultures now that I quote unquote grouped

787
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 3: in with.

788
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,439
Speaker 5: Whiteness were not considered whiteness when they first got here.

789
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 5: But you know, that's history, but people don't want to

790
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 5: hear that now, and people always assume that their particular

791
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,479
Speaker 5: group is an exception to the rule.

792
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was, Uh, there's been a lot of debate

793
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 2: about this thing. It was like, I don't know how

794
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 2: you pronounce it, j Jesus Charlie, which is supposed to

795
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 2: be I am Charlie, which is supposed to be like

796
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 2: a rally and cry for like we're all Charlie Heaped

797
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 2: with all that magazine. Yeah. Yeah, I mean there's some

798
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 2: good sauce too. I love me from Jesus Sauce on

799
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 2: a French deal. But yeah, it was, Uh, it was

800
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 2: something that that people started using to try to like

801
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 2: show solidarity in this situation. And I think what people

802
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:37,760
Speaker 2: are forgetting is there's a place in the middle where

803
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 2: I'm not that guy. I'm not Charlie Hebed, I'm not

804
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 2: their magazine. I'm not I'm not walking around uh agreeing

805
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 2: with their their point of view. I don't think their

806
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 2: mockery of religion and race and ship is very good.

807
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 2: It would be like if Artie Lane got killed by

808
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 2: someone who was tied out of him making jokes about

809
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 2: Charlie gar I mean about Eric Garner, and shit, I'm

810
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 2: not wearing an I Am Artie shirt. I know, you know,

811
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 2: I still can operate on the place in a place

812
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 2: of fuck are you Lane, But I don't want them

813
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 2: to get killed, right, But I'm not picking your side.

814
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 2: You can't polarize it that way where it's two sides

815
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 2: of this, you with the terrorists and you with the

816
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 2: ability to pick on Muslims and all the shit. Like nah,

817
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 2: I don't co sign that either, Like it's okay for

818
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 2: me to be like, yeah, you're still an asshole. I

819
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 2: didn't want you to die, but you're an asshole, you know.

820
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 2: And I think a lot of people, especially people are privilege.

821
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 2: They and about privilege. I don't just mean white, I

822
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 2: mean your country, you know, as far as your nationality,

823
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 2: your station in life, your class, your religion, a lot

824
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 2: of things where it's like, I'm not in these groups

825
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 2: that get picked on. So I support picking on these

826
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 2: groups because you've never had to think about, Man, if

827
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 2: Charlie Hebdo was just you know, only making jokes about

828
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 2: my shit, or if they were making like what I

829
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 2: really support them, like it's like, yes, keep keep it coming,

830
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 2: Like I don't think that's what people are saying. They

831
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 2: in this particular situation, it's like, fuck those Muslims. So

832
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 2: I'm with Charlie, that's it. But they don't actually support

833
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 2: being picked on, you could tell, cause these are the

834
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 2: same people that get mad about the war on Christmas

835
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 2: because we say happy Holidays in America, correct, you know,

836
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 2: these these are the same people that that always create

837
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 2: these false economies in our own American argusts when it

838
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 2: comes to religious stuff, you know. And now they're wearing

839
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 2: this shirt. You know, these are the same people that

840
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 2: make jokes about the French and think the French ain't

841
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 2: shit and want to call them freedom Fries. But today,

842
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 2: because they're it aligns with their the rhetoric event against Islam.

843
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 2: It's oh yeah, Charlie, hebdo we represent them? Now? We

844
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 2: cool with them? You didn't read that ship, you know,

845
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 2: but it says here it says so basically I am Charlie.

846
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 2: Became like a big thing that was going around. Soon though,

847
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 2: be came a rep repositive day. A retort Jenny c

848
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 2: u s pause, Charlie, which is I'm not Charlie as

849
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 2: a tragedy triggered debate about free speech and his limits

850
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 2: and whether the right to offend someone should always be used. Yeah. Also,

851
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 2: the free speech argument is so it's so misplaced. It

852
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 2: just gives me, it makes my brain hurt watching people

853
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 2: misuse that phrase. Yeah, I'm just watching it, Like this

854
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 2: ain't a free speech issue, guys. It's not that those

855
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 2: guys aren't from the government. They didn't like anybody up,

856
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 2: they didn't.

857
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 3: You said it. You know, nobody stopped you from.

858
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 2: You can print this tomorrow, like tomorrow you can run

859
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Speaker 2: the same racist is why I'm a phobic bullshit, nobody's stopping.

860
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Speaker 3: You, you know.

861
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 2: So I think you just gotta deal with.

862
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 5: It, you know, deal with some people not gonna like it,

863
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 5: and you're just gonna have to deal with a few

864
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Speaker 5: people that's gonna take it to the extreme.

865
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Speaker 3: Are they wrong, Yes, but they are out there.

866
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Speaker 2: Yeah. What people do is racist, right, you know what

867
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Speaker 2: I mean? So I don't understand how people can even

868
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Speaker 2: get mad at that, Like what they did was illegal

869
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Speaker 2: as what I mean not racist? What the people that

870
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 2: blew up and shot up everything that was illegal, that's

871
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 2: against the law. They're not supposed to do that. So

872
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 2: there's really there's really not two sides of this, you know,

873
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 2: they're framing it like there's a bunch of size of this.

874
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 2: Nobody's you know, going, yeah, it's okay to kill people

875
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 2: for disagreeing with you. We're okay with this and Charlie

876
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 2: hev though, and that's it. People are like, no, this

877
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 2: is tragic. Whether they're you know, I'm sure there's some people,

878
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 2: there's always some people, but vast majority of people are like, no,

879
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 2: this is tragic, and I hate that that happen. Those

880
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 2: people correct like it's annoying, I didn't like them, whatever,

881
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 2: but they keep framing it like, no, we're all Charlie. No,

882
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 2: we're not. No, we're not all Charlie guys. For many

883
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: civil libertarians, the issue was clear. Charlie Hebdol had published

884
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,240
Speaker 2: crewed rude cartoons that mocked everyone, for politicians to the pope,

885
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 2: to the prophet Muhammad. It saw his mission is challenging

886
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 2: taboos and sacred cows. The best way to honor the

887
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 2: twelve killed and stand up the free speech was to

888
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 2: print the cartoons again. The group Index on Censorship ran

889
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 2: a selection that Charlie have the cartoons online. They called

890
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 2: on other publications of the websites to follow suit to

891
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 2: show that fears should not be allowed to stifle free expression.

892
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,280
Speaker 2: Historian Timothy garden Ash said that if newspapers didn't publish

893
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 2: their images, the assassins will have won. Some websites and

894
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 2: newspapers did print the Muhammad cartoons, with many, especially in

895
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 2: the US and Britain, did not, saying they violated editorial

896
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 2: policies against willfully given offense. The Associated Presses decided not

897
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 2: to run the issues images, explaining in part the APH

898
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 2: tries hard not to be the conveyor belt for images

899
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 2: and actions aim at mocking over broken people on the

900
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 2: basis of religion, races, or sexual orientation. While we run

901
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 2: many photos that are politically and socially provocative, there are

902
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 2: areas vergin on hate speech and actions where we feel

903
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 2: it is right to be cautious. Alan Rustbridge, editor of

904
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,439
Speaker 2: the United Kingdom's Guardian newspapers, said, we completely defend Charlie,

905
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 2: have those ethos and values in the right to offend

906
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 2: in the way that they did, But he said there

907
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 2: are some very offensive ones that the Guardian would never end.

908
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 2: The normal run of events published and it would be

909
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 2: wrong to change in response to terrorism. Others point out

910
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 2: that in all societies, freedom of speech has its limits.

911
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 2: In France, several people have been arrested this week for

912
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 2: glorifying the killings on social media. Even starch defenders of

913
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 2: free speech may be alarmed that hashtag jesuis Kuwachi, which

914
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 2: means I am the Kuwahchi brothers, I guess, identifying with

915
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,240
Speaker 2: the brothers who are the assailants in the Charliefdoll attack,

916
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 2: has become a Twitter hashtag. Some who condemned the killings

917
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 2: used the eye not Charlie hashtag to express uneased as

918
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 2: they saw as they saw what they as what they

919
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 2: saw as hurtful publishing hurtful, inflammatory and sometimes racist images.

920
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 2: Charlie Hebdo once to picked the black government minister as

921
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 2: a monkey, and in twenty twelve A made an uproar

922
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 2: over an anti Muslim film. The magazine published drawings on

923
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 2: Muhammad naked and in demeaning or pornographic poses. Such Muhammed

924
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 2: images offend many ordinary Muslims, and some argue targeted community

925
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 2: that already feels be legal in France upon represent underrepresented

926
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:40,439
Speaker 2: in the corridors of power overrepresented in prison and stigmatized

927
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 2: by a law against religious displays that bans hedgecars in

928
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 2: school and face covering veils in public places. American cartoonist

929
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 2: Joe Saco drew a cartoon in response to the attacks,

930
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 2: in which he mused that the lines on the paper

931
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 2: are a weapon and the satires meant to cut to

932
00:47:55,280 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 2: the bone. But who's bone? Though tweaking the note of

933
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 2: Muslims can be permissible as it is now believed to

934
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Speaker 2: be dangerous, it has never struck me as anything other

935
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Speaker 2: than a vapid way to use a pig in soccer world, Charlie.

936
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Speaker 2: Have those supporters say many criticisms missed the crucial contexts,

937
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 2: or say such criticism miss his crucial context. The newspaper's

938
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 2: human stands a tradition that Marck hipocricy and punctures pretension

939
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 2: without fear or favor. French journalists and Elizabeth Motet described

940
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 2: it as rude of seeing the reverend and anti religious

941
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 2: the last true air of the French revolutionary and Republican traditions.

942
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 2: My question is this, So, what was the context of

943
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 2: the black woman looking like a monkey.

944
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 5: Like?

945
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 2: Is that some deeper meaning in that because I just

946
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 2: want to know.

947
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 3: Like, it's funny.

948
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 5: How just listen, how, especially in America, we pick and

949
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 5: choose what we consider offensive, but we don't consider offensively.

950
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 5: The only reason I personally believe the reason why you're

951
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 5: not playing, why you're not putting that shit up here

952
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 5: in America because you know it's hot, you know people

953
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 5: are antsy about it, and you know you would get

954
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 5: a lot of backlash.

955
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 2: Well, some people have policies against it already. So coming

956
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 2: out going I support this, you don't really support it

957
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 2: because you wouldn't do this shit, correct, you know? But okay, fine,

958
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 2: you say you support the principle of it. Cool. I

959
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 2: don't really see what the problem is then, because nobody's

960
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 2: really saying they don't support the principle of it. People

961
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 2: are going, yeah, that's rude and that's fucked up. But

962
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 2: nobody I saw, no one of any reason is going

963
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 2: it's rude and it's fucked up, but it's okay to

964
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 2: kill them?

965
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 3: Oh, correct?

966
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 2: You know? So and then you know another thing that's

967
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 2: been weird, and that is people have been pointing out

968
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 2: the Muslim people that have died because the cop who

969
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 2: was killed on video, he was a Muslim. There was

970
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 2: a woman I think that may have been shot in

971
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 2: the mall or police officer who was shot separately, and

972
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:58,439
Speaker 2: she was Muslim. It's weird because I get it, you're

973
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 2: trying to say, look, they shot Muslim people too, so

974
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 2: their hatred is really irrational and not really focused and whatnot.

975
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 2: But then there's also this weird part where it's like

976
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 2: we're now you're using this person's death as a prop

977
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 2: correct where it's like, look, they killed this Muslim person too.

978
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 2: And it's a conflicting thing because on the one hand,

979
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 2: I understand they shouldn't be a race for the narrative

980
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 2: just so people can be Islamic phobic, so you do

981
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 2: want to bring up, hey, this isn't about all Muslims

982
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 2: being bad. But then it's also like this kind of

983
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 2: ichy like oh, this person died, see this one done

984
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 2: fifty training guys, So calm down. You know, it's weird,

985
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 2: and it's just feeling them like this is the good

986
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 2: Muslim So see they got a couple of good ones.

987
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 2: And so anyway, thousands of people joined world leaders at

988
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 2: a Paris Unity rally. Tens of thousand people, including more

989
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 2: than forty world leaders stream into the harder pair on

990
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 2: Sunday for a rally of national unity to honor the

991
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 2: seventeen victims of the three Days of terror. After a

992
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 2: week of tarif, French officials are worried about containing and

993
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 2: preventing further attacks. The aftermath of the attacks remained raw,

994
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 2: with video emerging of one of the gunmen killed during

995
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 2: police raids pledging allegiance to the Islamic state of Iraq

996
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 2: and Syria and detailing how the attacks were going to unfold. Also,

997
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 2: a new shooting was linked to that gun and Ahmedi

998
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 2: Kula Velli, who was killed Friday along with the brothers

999
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 2: behind the massacre at satirical newspaper Charlie Hebdo and nearly

1000
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 2: simultaneous raised by security forces. Today, Paris is the capital

1001
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:43,760
Speaker 2: of the world, said French President Francois haland our entire

1002
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 2: country will rise up towards something better. Unity against extremism

1003
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 2: is the overriding message for Sunday's rally. Among the expected

1004
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 2: attendees are the Israeli Prime Minister and the Palestinian President,

1005
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 2: the Ukrainian president and Russian foreign Minister, the leaders of Britain, Germany, NATO,

1006
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 2: the Arab League and African nations. Top European and US

1007
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 2: security officials are also holding a special meeting in Paris

1008
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 2: about fighting terrorism. Rallies were also playing in London, Madrid

1009
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,720
Speaker 2: and New York, all attacked by Al Kaeda linked extremists,

1010
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 2: as well as Cairo, Sydney, stock On, Tokyo and elsewhere.

1011
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 2: We are all Charlie, we are all police, we are

1012
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 2: all Jews of France Prime Minister Manuel Valz declared on Saturday,

1013
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 2: referring to the victims of the attacks that included employees

1014
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 2: at Charlie Hefdol's, shoppers at the closure Kosher grocery, and

1015
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 2: three police officers. I ain't say we're all Muslims because

1016
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:45,280
Speaker 2: two of the police officers kill was Muslim. Right still

1017
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 2: feels I don't know, it just feels very a lot

1018
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 2: of propaganda involved in this shit. The Three Days of

1019
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 2: Terror again Wednesday when brothers say Sharif at Sharikochi storing

1020
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 2: the newsroom of Charlie h Duck killing twelve people. Friday,

1021
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 2: a member of al Qaeda branch and Yemen said the

1022
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 2: group directed the attack at Charlie Hebdo has revenge for

1023
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 2: the honor of Islam's Prophet Muhammad, the member of Friday,

1024
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 2: provided to CBS News a statement in English saying, the

1025
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 2: leadership of a q a P directed operations and they

1026
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 2: have chosen their target carefully. So then they had the

1027
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 2: two standoffs and now they're looking for this Hyatte Bomadn

1028
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 2: who is the supposedly the girlfriend of the supermarket shooter

1029
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 2: or the wife of the supermarket shooter, and they can't

1030
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:41,760
Speaker 2: find her. So they still remain on high alert because

1031
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 2: I guess they don't know what she's planning on doing.

1032
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 3: So home what.

1033
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they're still looking for her. Man. More than

1034
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 2: fifty five hundred police and soldiers were being deployed on

1035
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,280
Speaker 2: Sunday across France, about half of them to protect the march,

1036
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 2: the others regarding synagogues, mods schools and other sites around France.

1037
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 2: I hope that we will again be able to say

1038
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 2: we are happy to be Jews in Francis hein Cortia,

1039
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 2: the chief Rabbi in France, who planning to attend the rally.

1040
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 2: The targeting the Jews in the grocery store attack has

1041
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 2: touched the nerve for many in the country's Jewish community,

1042
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 2: which prior to the attack had expressed concern over tide

1043
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 2: of anti Semitism following the Israel Guys of war. Israeli

1044
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 2: Prime Minister Benjamin that Yahoo had asked French officials to

1045
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 2: step up security around Jewish sites following the recent attack.

1046
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 2: Before Sunday's rally, that In Yahoo said in a statement,

1047
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 2: any Jew who wants to immigrate to Israel will be

1048
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 2: received here with open arms. He later announced the bodies

1049
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,439
Speaker 2: of French Jews killed in the parish grocery store will

1050
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 2: be buried in Israel. So and then Lea. Then the

1051
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 2: video came out of the guy who was killed in

1052
00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 2: the grocery store standing off, saying that he was loyal

1053
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 2: to Isis. Speaking of loyal to Isis, our boy Don

1054
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 2: Lemon did an interview with a human rights lawyer who

1055
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 2: happened to be Muslim. Okay, and you know his upstanding

1056
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 2: journalism and his ability to get right to the heart

1057
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 2: of the matter.

1058
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 8: Is radical Islam to blame for what happened in Paris.

1059
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 8: One prominent American voice, Republican Senator Lindsay Graham South Carolina,

1060
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 8: says yes, I'm joined now by Arcelon inftercar He's a

1061
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 8: senior editor of the Islamic Monthly and founder of the

1062
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 8: Muslim guy dot com. I appreciate you you being here tonight.

1063
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 8: What is your reaction to what happened?

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00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 2: Arslon Well.

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Speaker 7: I think you know, like millions and billions of people

1066
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 7: around the world, we were shocked and horrified to see

1067
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,800
Speaker 7: what happened today at the offices of Charlie abdou in Paris.

1068
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 7: And you know, it's something that is against any normative

1069
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 7: teaching of Islam or any religious teaching, and it's a

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Speaker 7: crime against humanity and an act of mass murder.

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Speaker 8: Do you have a problem with these cartoons the way

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Speaker 8: they depict the prophet Muhammad?

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Speaker 7: No, not at all. And I think that if you,

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Speaker 7: you know, serveted the vast majority of Muslims around the world,

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Speaker 7: you know they would certainly say that, you know, the

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Speaker 7: killing of innocent civilians is not only you know, a murder,

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Speaker 7: but it's also against any normative, mainstream teachings of Islam.

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Speaker 7: And you know, their acts are about as Muslim as

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Speaker 7: abortion clinic bombers or gay night club bombers.

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Speaker 2: Our acts are a Christian.

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Speaker 8: What you're saying is very close to what Care is saying.

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Speaker 8: Care of course, is America's largest Muslim civil liberties and

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Speaker 8: advocacy organization, and I want to read to you. They

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Speaker 8: put out a statement tonight denouncing the attack in Paris,

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Speaker 8: and they said, there's absolutely no justification in Islam for

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Speaker 8: this kind of heinous massacre targeting innocent people. Islam as

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Speaker 8: a religion that promotes tolerance, emphasizes freedom of speech, and encourages.

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Speaker 2: The moderate Middle path.

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Speaker 8: And then it goes on to talk about that they

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Speaker 8: should be brought to swiftly to justice their words and

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Speaker 8: what you're saying, No, that's not always a reality of

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Speaker 8: what many people think about Islam.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but you know, don it's important to not conflate

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Speaker 7: you know, the actions of a very few to you know,

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Speaker 7: a population of one point seven billion people, which represents

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Speaker 7: twenty percent of the world's population. You know, if people

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Speaker 7: want to blame Islam for things, you know, they can

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Speaker 7: blame us for inventing algebra or modern medical anesthesia, or

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Speaker 7: having five out of the last twelve Nobel Peace Prize winners.

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Speaker 7: And so I think it's important that you know, to

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Speaker 7: you know, to call out the fact that, you know,

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Speaker 7: when when Christians commit acts of terror, we don't ask

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Speaker 7: you know, priests and pastors to go on national television

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Speaker 7: and condemn these acts. But sadly, Muslim public, intellectualist thinkers, leaders,

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Speaker 7: and Islamic scholars, you know, have that double standard that

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Speaker 7: we have to deal with. But it's important for us

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Speaker 7: to get the message out that that Muslims are not

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Speaker 7: only as opposed to terrorism, but one of the victims today,

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Speaker 7: actually the police officer of forty two year old man

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Speaker 7: who was gunned down on the sidewalk was actually a Muslim.

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Speaker 8: Many times, many times, Muslims are the victims of these

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Speaker 8: terrorist attacks. And listen, you're saying that Isami is to blame,

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Speaker 8: Radical Islam is to blame.

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Speaker 7: Well, I think it's important to keep in mind that,

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Speaker 7: you know, bringing religion into it at all is you know,

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Speaker 7: actually serving the purposes of the terrorists. I mean, the

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Speaker 7: prophet Muhammad said that extremists should be considered the dogs

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Speaker 7: of Hell and enemies of Islam. I mean, he was

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Speaker 7: attacked and you know, defamed many times during his life

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Speaker 7: and there was not one time where he told people

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Speaker 7: to take retribution for that. And so I think it's

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Speaker 7: important to keep in mind that, you know, these are

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Speaker 7: irreligious criminals that are committing acts of mass murder, and

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Speaker 7: you know, again to conflate you know, this to you know,

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Speaker 7: a civilization that has been around for fourteen hundred years

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Speaker 7: and again that you know, has created things like algebra

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Speaker 7: and modern medicine. You know, I think is reductive and

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Speaker 7: simplistic at best.

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Speaker 8: I will have to ask you, because there are a

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Speaker 8: lot of a lot of violent extremists use religion to

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Speaker 8: justify their actions. Newsweek found back in August at sixteen

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Speaker 8: percent of French citizens support ISIS. Would you describe those

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Speaker 8: who support ISIS as Islamic extremists.

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Speaker 7: Well, they obviously, you know, they obviously have sympathies for

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Speaker 7: that ideology. I don't think that that would mean that

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Speaker 7: they would justify the killing of innocent civilians or murdering

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Speaker 7: people on the streets. Again, you know, there's been no

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Speaker 7: religion in the history of the world on that has

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Speaker 7: been immune from acts of religious terrorism. And we had

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Speaker 7: Nine Crusades, we had the Thirty Years War, we had

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Speaker 7: we have the Kukuks Klan in America, a Christianist organization,

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Speaker 7: you know, in Norway a couple of years ago. You

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Speaker 7: remember Don Anders Brevick, you know, murdered seventy seven kids

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Speaker 7: on an island and tried to assassinate the Prime Minister

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Speaker 7: of Norway and left behind a fifteen hundred page treatise

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Speaker 7: calling himself a soldier of Christianity. Now, we didn't expect

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Speaker 7: every Christian leader around the world to go on national

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Speaker 7: television and condemn him, because we knew that he was

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Speaker 7: a lunatic. But sadly, there is a double standard in

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Speaker 7: place when a brown Muslim commits an act of murder.

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Speaker 8: Then Arslan, I understand where you're going with. I just

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Speaker 8: want to get a more specific again. In August, sixteen

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Speaker 8: percent of French citizens support ISIS. Would you describe those

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Speaker 8: support who support is ISIS as Islamic extremists?

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Speaker 2: Do you support Nope? He added something and keep listening.

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Speaker 8: In August, sixteen percent of French citizens support ISIS. Would

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Speaker 8: you describe those support who support is ISIS as Islamic extremists?

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Speaker 2: Do you support ISIS?

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Speaker 3: Why would he ask him that, Oh my god, this

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Speaker 3: is a bright, intelligent man.

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Speaker 5: Has been statistics and stats and basically you probably got

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Speaker 5: a fucking PhD or some shit, basically coming out and

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Speaker 5: saying I don't condone this, this is not right. There's

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Speaker 5: a double standard and you asked him, does he support isis.

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Speaker 2: The entire point of the conversation was that you don't

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Speaker 2: need to ask that question, right the entire And this

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Speaker 2: was not a short conversation five minutes into a conversation

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Speaker 2: that was like, look, man, just because someone's Muslim doesn't

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Speaker 2: mean they support This is extreme, one off situation. This

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Speaker 2: is not something that represents all Muslims any more than

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Speaker 2: the KKK represents all Christians. He gave so many articulate,

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Speaker 2: well thought out responses and answers and statistics. He didn't

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Speaker 2: give a fuck. It's like the entire point of this

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Speaker 2: conversation was to get to the point where I get

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Speaker 2: to ask him does he support ices? And to fucking

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Speaker 2: condemn ices? That was it. It was like it was

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Speaker 2: no other fucking point.

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Speaker 3: And ah ye, and if I was that Manto will

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Speaker 3: be hot because I was like, you bought me on

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Speaker 3: here for this bullshit. It's like it's almost like people

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Speaker 3: don't know how to interview no more.

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Speaker 2: It's like, no, I don't even think it's I don't

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Speaker 2: think he's because a lack of skill. I think seeing

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Speaker 2: in remember why I told you with the all cops

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Speaker 2: ask the cops, I think they know it's gonna piss

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Speaker 2: people off, and they know it's gonna go viral, and

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Speaker 2: they know they're gonna get clicked. So it's like this,

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Speaker 2: this interview is not gonna be good unless I take

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Speaker 2: it further than Fox News would even take it. And

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Speaker 2: I ask him something that is gonna be a headline

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Speaker 2: on Gawker and BuzzFeed and all these sights. And I

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Speaker 2: think that's what Don Lemon does. I think that's all

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Speaker 2: he does. I don't think he's I don't think there's

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Speaker 2: any skill he excels at in any in any area

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Speaker 2: over other other newscasters. But he is willing to play

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Speaker 2: the fool to ask the most salacious, foolish question that

1197
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Speaker 2: makes us all go, wow, what an idiot, you know,

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Speaker 2: And he'll never get fired, or if he does, he'll

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Speaker 2: just land on Fox News or something like he's there

1200
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Speaker 2: will never be a time that he can't make a

1201
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Speaker 2: living off of doing what he's doing right now. Correct,

1202
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Speaker 2: not to mention part of him is this way because

1203
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Speaker 2: he feels this way about black people. You know, when

1204
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Speaker 2: he does his pull your pants up segment, like don't

1205
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Speaker 2: say the an word segment, like he believes in a

1206
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Speaker 2: lot of this, like everybody, you represent everybody in your

1207
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Speaker 2: race at all times.

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Speaker 7: Wait, did you just ask if I support ices? And

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Speaker 7: I just answered your question. I said that obviously these

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Speaker 7: sixteen percent of people will support the ideology, but again

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Speaker 7: I don't think that that would necessarily extrapolate to supporting

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Speaker 7: of killing of innocent people. You can have sympathy for

1213
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Speaker 7: an ideology and not, you know, support the mass murder

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Speaker 7: of people. And that's what the vast majority of the

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Speaker 7: Muslim street, whether you're dealing with Paris or Islamba or Jakarta,

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Speaker 7: you know, we're as horrified as everybody else about what

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Speaker 7: happened today, and we grieve with the victims and with

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Speaker 7: the people of Paris.

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Speaker 8: So Frederick Flick and our reporter there said that their

1220
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Speaker 8: people took the streets, and we saw them in Paris. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: he said he didn't see much anti Muslim or anti

1222
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Speaker 8: Islam demonstrators. There are talk of it. Do you worry

1223
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Speaker 8: about anti Muslim protests in the days to come?

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Speaker 7: You know, it's really interesting done you know, in the

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Speaker 7: last few weeks Germany has seen close to twenty thousand

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Speaker 7: people showing up at anti Muslim rallies around the country.

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Speaker 7: We see the rise of far right, nationalistic, xenophobic political

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Speaker 7: parties like the you know, Jean Marie le.

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Speaker 2: Pant Yeah, man shout out to to this dude, I

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Speaker 2: know he runs muslim dot com. I don't know. I

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01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 2: don't know how he stayed focused. I would have probably

1232
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Speaker 2: lost my focus. Like I dude, I can't believe he

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Speaker 2: just did that.

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Speaker 3: He basically repeated this. He was like, I basically just

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Speaker 3: answered that question.

1236
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean he's continuing the rest of this interview.

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Speaker 5: He didn't live the interview with a lot of people

1238
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Speaker 5: that would have, which is what they would have wanted.

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Speaker 2: Right, like I would have just like it was almost like.

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Speaker 3: He just said you for being a professional.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, It's almost like he just said noted, And it

1242
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Speaker 2: kept going like did you just ask me that?

1243
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Speaker 5: Okay, And it would be surprised to me. It wouldn't

1244
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Speaker 5: be surprising to me if people throw this shit at him.

1245
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Speaker 3: All the time.

1246
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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe that's it's just so.

1247
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Speaker 3: So he's kind of trained himself to repeat or answer

1248
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Speaker 3: the question. It just keep going on.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 2: Also, it's almost like the President Obama thing. If you're

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Speaker 2: a Muslim in you're on TV and you're talking about

1252
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 2: this shit. You're in the can't get angry or upset box,

1253
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 2: and you even if you get justifiably upset, like, why

1254
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Speaker 2: would you even compare me to this? Like obviously I

1255
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 2: just talked about how I don't agree with it. People

1256
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 2: will still go look at the angry Muslim, see if

1257
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Speaker 2: he have nothing to hide while he's getting so upset.

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Speaker 2: So you have to be like, oh, well, you know,

1259
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Speaker 2: I don't believe that, and I don't agree with them,

1260
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Speaker 2: and blah blah blah, or else the world's gonna flip

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Speaker 2: on you too.

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Speaker 5: That and also I think the fact that he said

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Speaker 5: multiple times when shit happened, folks go to people in

1264
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Speaker 5: prominent Muslim roles and ask them dumb questions and basically

1265
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Speaker 5: they have to come out and denounce it and say,

1266
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Speaker 5: you know, this is not all of us. So I'm

1267
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Speaker 5: guaranteed he's been called on and interviewed a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the thing is he was talking to a

1269
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Speaker 2: black guy about this. He even gave example. The disconnect

1270
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Speaker 2: is is too real, Yes, it is.

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Speaker 3: It's like a complete separation.

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Speaker 7: This party in France or Garrett Volders in uh in

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Speaker 7: Holland and other neo Nazi parties, and so you know

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Speaker 7: there is a far right, uh you know, political extremists

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Speaker 7: groups that are you know that are you know, using

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Speaker 7: this as as a talking point. Do you worry about it?

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Speaker 9: Sure?

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Speaker 7: I do, But I think that it's it's important to

1279
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Speaker 7: keep in mind that these are uh you know, European

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Speaker 7: societies are wonderful free societies that are welcoming to people

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Speaker 7: of all different backgrounds. And I think that, you know,

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Speaker 7: common sense will ultimately.

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Speaker 8: Prevail our salon, Isha car thank you for coming on.

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Speaker 7: I really appreciate it. My pleasure.

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Speaker 2: Don thank you.

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Speaker 8: We've got much more to come tonight.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, this mas that that's oh my god,

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Speaker 2: that is just so ignorant. Man. All right, let's uh

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Speaker 2: cover some other news. Let's talk about kids trying to

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Speaker 2: kill people. Uh some nast kids want to do it

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Speaker 2: and didn't have anything to do with religion.

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Speaker 10: Tonight, if five thirty a disturbing planned by some young

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Speaker 10: kids at a local elementary school. They shocked the small

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Speaker 10: town of Elba in Genesee County. The group of fourth

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Speaker 10: graders were reportedly plotting to kill their teacher. Fourth graders

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Speaker 10: Tony side Erica B Record tells us how officials say

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Speaker 10: the students had planned to carry out their plan and

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Speaker 10: what possible punishment they will face.

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Speaker 1: According to the Genesee County Sheriff's Department incident Report, three

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Speaker 1: fourth graders, all between nine and ten years old, were

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Speaker 1: upset with their teacher.

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Speaker 3: The students knew.

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Speaker 2: Why does stop no no hold on? I'll click something

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Speaker 2: when we go back.

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Speaker 3: Okay, what happened?

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Speaker 2: Damn fourth grader is ready to kill some line.

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Speaker 1: A comments and from the that with their teen According

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Speaker 1: to the Genesee County Sheriff's Department Incident Report, three fourth graders,

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Speaker 1: all between nine and ten years old, were upset with

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Speaker 1: their teacher. The students knew their teacher is highly allergic

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Speaker 1: to antibacterial hand sanitizer and they knew its ban from

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Speaker 1: the classroom, so the three children were allegedly going to

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Speaker 1: sneak it in. The report says the suspects made comments

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Speaker 1: to other students that they were going to kill the

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Speaker 1: teacher by putting antibacterial products around the classroom.

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Speaker 4: There was a discussion between some of the students involved,

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Speaker 4: and there were also students who were not involved in

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Speaker 4: that discussion who overheard it.

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Speaker 1: At least one of those students told their mother, who

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Speaker 1: happens to be a school board member. That mother went

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Speaker 1: to the school administration and the district contacted the Sheriff's

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Speaker 1: department for guidance.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think the school took it very seriously, that's

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Speaker 4: why we were contacted.

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Speaker 1: Initially, two youth officers interviewed the students involved. One of

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Speaker 1: them said that the teacher yells at us and that

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Speaker 1: the class has problems with her. The youth officer's report

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Speaker 1: also states they were informed that this particular class has

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Speaker 1: trouble getting along and that one student said bullying is

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Speaker 1: an issue. Elba Dish Superintendent Jerome Pico couldn't address specifics,

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Speaker 1: but wrote in a press release today the district does

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Speaker 1: not condone any of the behaviors that have been reported

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Speaker 1: and is in the process of working alongside the Sheriff's

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Speaker 1: department to use this incident as a vehicle for educating

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Speaker 1: the district students regarding appropriate behaviors.

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Speaker 4: Ultimately, are the school elected to handle themselves, and that

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Speaker 4: was where the Sheriff's office left it.

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Speaker 1: That means taking action or punishment is left up to

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Speaker 1: the school district.

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Speaker 4: Although there was some discussion about doing this, it had

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Speaker 4: never actually happened and never carried through with it.

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Speaker 1: Brewster says the sheriff's department could not file criminal charges.

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Speaker 1: Juvenile laws require that kids under sixteen have to actually

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Speaker 1: commit a misdemeanor or felony to face charges. The Elba

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Speaker 1: Central School Board happens to be holding a special meeting tonight.

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Speaker 1: We'll be there to see if this school incident is

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Speaker 1: part of that discussion.

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Speaker 3: Scott, Erica, before you go.

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Speaker 10: If the sheriff's department is no longer involved here, the

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Speaker 10: district isn't releasing any details, Will we ever really don'

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Speaker 10: what happens with these kids, these fourth graders.

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Speaker 3: Good question, Scott.

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Speaker 1: Before the school district took over, the sheriff's department suggested

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Speaker 1: they go to youth Court, which is an innovative peer

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Speaker 1: run court where other students actually decide in appropriate punishment.

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Speaker 1: Superintendent Pico didn't say if they'll take that route or not,

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Speaker 1: only that the district is working with the students and

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Speaker 1: parents involved.

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Speaker 10: All right, Director Broker, tonight, Director think.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell about buying back down? Yeah, what are

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Speaker 2: they gonna talk to the kids about. It's like we're

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Speaker 2: gonna talk about appropriate behaviors? Hey, Uh, don't kill your teacher.

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Speaker 2: That's not appropriate.

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Speaker 3: Guys, go to your parents if you have issues with

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Speaker 3: your teacher.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's just not Can we just.

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Speaker 5: Not talk to the principal. There's there's other adults around

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Speaker 5: that you could have talked to.

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Speaker 2: I noticed that attempted murder of teachers has been up

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Speaker 2: a lot this year, and we like to get that

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Speaker 2: number down back to zero. So, kids, if you could

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Speaker 2: not kill your teachers, and then we're gonna put a

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Speaker 2: hand they had seven times an in the shit like

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Speaker 2: they they had thought about this, right, And I.

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Speaker 5: Think that's the problem, that this right here was calculated.

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Speaker 5: They sat down, they plotted, they had ideas. And let's

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Speaker 5: say that the student that went to her mama, let's

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Speaker 5: say she didn't take that seriously.

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Speaker 3: Then this teacher ended up fucking dead.

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Speaker 2: And there's no crime you can accuse the kids of, right,

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Speaker 2: no crime, no crime. What Maybe they just didn't expect

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Speaker 2: the mom testify against the kid. I guess that's the reason.

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Speaker 5: And my thing, honestly, they was all white because just

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Speaker 5: my opinion, I think if this has been anybody in

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Speaker 5: brown skin tone, they would have pushed this to the

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Speaker 5: to the utmost and everybody would have been punished to

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Speaker 5: the fullest extent of the law. Yup, that's just my

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Speaker 5: personal opinion. And then then they wonder why people, why

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Speaker 5: you don't have good competent teachers. Nobody wants to go

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Speaker 5: into a classroom and have to worry about fucking students

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Speaker 5: trying to kill them and you barely paying them twenty

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Speaker 5: thousand dollars a year.

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Speaker 2: Fuck you, well the teachers of that to fuck the

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Speaker 2: students out the other way around. I mean, come on, man,

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Speaker 2: get killed by these little motherfuckers. I can see if

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Speaker 2: you get killed from an STD from a kid, you

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Speaker 2: want to obviously you don't want to get Murdery is

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Speaker 2: upset by Fox promotions. You know, he had his own

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Speaker 2: show Power on the Stars Network.

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Speaker 3: Right just getting big ratings over there.

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Speaker 2: He saw a promo poster for the series Empire on Fox.

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Speaker 5: And they played that ship to fucking death. What do

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Speaker 5: you mean Empire commercial?

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, So he saw the promotion which had Terrence

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Speaker 2: Howard into Roger p Henson with smoldering expressions that are

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Speaker 2: similar to the image that they used for Power of

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Speaker 2: Amari Hardwick and Naturry nodding after Jackson. Uh So, Jackson

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Speaker 2: went on on Twitter put both of the pictures up

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Speaker 2: and was like, they didn't have to do that, trying

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Speaker 2: to say like they in.

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Speaker 3: His style that was thinking twice about you, right.

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Speaker 2: The first of all, you don't have a copyright on

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Speaker 2: smoldering at the camera, right. And so after he used

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Speaker 2: the social media kind to point out the similarities, Henson

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Speaker 2: theg Pension responded on Twitter and said, I pay attention

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Speaker 2: to dollar signs, not sense, and she added the peace

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Speaker 2: side of emoji. Uh, and so fifty said, can you

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Speaker 2: say anything bad when a woman said something something to

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Speaker 2: you and not be inappropriate? So I just laughed about

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Speaker 2: it and let it brush. That's cool. I think there's

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Speaker 2: room for more actual television shows shows. So I guess

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Speaker 2: he was like thinking a bunch of misogynistic insults, and

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Speaker 2: he was like, I'm gonna look bad if I call

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Speaker 2: her a bitch or whatever, So right, let me just

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Speaker 2: calm down.

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Speaker 3: And he was like, I see what happened to other

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Speaker 3: niggas when they start going in on women.

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Speaker 2: Not to mention, the shows aren't the.

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Speaker 3: Same, No, they are not.

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Speaker 2: Nothing close to the same, if any if maybe that

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Speaker 2: poster might be the only similarity they have, but the

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Speaker 2: show's not the same. Come on, man, President Obama said,

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Speaker 2: a free community college for everyone. You get it. You

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Speaker 2: get a two year degree, you get a two year degree.

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Speaker 5: I'm really thinking about doing that, like a bench of stipulation,

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Speaker 5: Like nigga, you already got to go back.

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Speaker 2: President Barack Obama's playing called American College Promise, seeks to

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Speaker 2: make two years of community college or technical college as

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Speaker 2: free as the Universe and university's high school. It comes

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Speaker 2: with the steep price tag and doubts are sufficient uh

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Speaker 2: and their doubts about sufficient support in Congress, some questions

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Speaker 2: and answers about the plan where now it's Friday. How

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Speaker 2: it worked. The student would need to go to school

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Speaker 2: at least halftime, maintain a two and a half point

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Speaker 2: a two point five grade point average, and make progress

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Speaker 2: towards a degree. States would have to provide about a

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Speaker 2: quarter of the cost of the program, maintain existing education spending,

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Speaker 2: and work to reduce the need for remedial classes and

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Speaker 2: the courses colleges will participate in. Students would have to

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Speaker 2: offer academic programs that fully transfer to four year college

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Speaker 2: colleges or job training programs with high school graduation rates.

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Speaker 2: That lead to degrees and certifications sought by employers. How

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Speaker 2: can it be quote unquote free. It's only free to students.

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Speaker 2: The proposal, estimated to cost the federal government about sixty

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Speaker 2: billion dollars over ten years, could save students an average

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Speaker 2: of thirty eight hundred dollars intuition per year. The White

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Speaker 2: House estimates that if every state opted in, about nine

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Speaker 2: million students can be helped. Why now, cause he a

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Speaker 2: lame duck president. Fuck y'all gonna do nigga R but now.

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Speaker 2: Obama proposal is loosely modeled after the Tennessee promise. The

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Speaker 2: scholarship program to begin this fall using lottery money in

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Speaker 2: Tennessee that provides two years of free tuition in the

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Speaker 2: state community and technical colleges. Roughly ninety percent of the

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Speaker 2: state's high school seniors have applied, although not all are

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Speaker 2: expected to use the benefit. The goal is to help

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Speaker 2: boaster the percent of Tennesseeans with a post secondary degree

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Speaker 2: from thirty three percent to fifty five percent. There's also

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Speaker 2: a similar program in Chicago.

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Speaker 5: Right, so he's adopted something that somebody else already has

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Speaker 5: in place, and people go, nah, fuck a free education.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm you know, I'm well, yeah, I guess same

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Speaker 2: thing happened with the Romney thing, right the Republican Lab Congress,

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Speaker 2: because that will it pass Congress. The Republican Lad Congress

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Speaker 2: has shown the reluctance to adopt new big spending programs.

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Speaker 2: Even supporters of the Tennessee program like Republican Senator Lamar

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Speaker 2: Alexander and Bob Corker of Tennessee say the program is

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Speaker 2: better kept at state and local level. So that's one

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Speaker 2: of the big things out there that they do. The

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Speaker 2: hypocrisy they present to stop the president is they'll be like, no,

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Speaker 2: it's okay from my state where our campaign do that

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01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:55,479
Speaker 2: got elected and it's widely popular before the country. No

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Speaker 2: one would want that, you know, like I hate that shit.

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Speaker 3: Wow, wouldn't sir.

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Speaker 2: Unless the President has a responsible plan to meet our

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Speaker 2: existing commitments, he shouldn't be making new promises to the

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Speaker 2: American people that the American people can't afford. Their representative

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Speaker 2: John Klin, Republican Minnesota Chairman of the House Education and

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Speaker 2: Workforce Committee, Yeah, go with my plan of not doing shit, motherfuckers.

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Speaker 2: Besides questions about funding, one are the arguments against the plan.

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Speaker 2: While supporters say such a program expari as the pull

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Speaker 2: of students going to college. Educators disagree on whether this

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Speaker 2: is the best use of tax dollars. That's in part

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Speaker 2: because some of the students who could benefit could afford

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Speaker 2: to pay tuition on their own, and the neediest of

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Speaker 2: the students might not get the aid, all the aid

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Speaker 2: that they need. In Tennessee, some private college leaders and

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01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 2: politicians have expressed concern that the Tennessee plan could divert

1498
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 2: students and scholarship money away from for your schools.

1499
01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 5: Them did you talking about the expensive ass places that

1500
01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 5: constantly take people money? And I went to four year

1501
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 5: university and there's nothing wrong with for your universities.

1502
01:17:58,160 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 3: But the truth be.

1503
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:03,760
Speaker 5: Told, the cost of college education is skyrocketing and the

1504
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:08,559
Speaker 5: average person cannot afford to go. They just cannot afford

1505
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:11,519
Speaker 5: to go. And a lot of times you raise tuition,

1506
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 5: and there's nothing justifying these.

1507
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 3: Tuition raises for most people.

1508
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 5: Even though the states, these same states that claim that

1509
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:24,559
Speaker 5: they don't want to give you free tuition won't give

1510
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:27,680
Speaker 5: the universities for your universities the money that they need, so.

1511
01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:30,519
Speaker 3: They cut funding.

1512
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:33,400
Speaker 5: And cut funding also means raised but you have to pay,

1513
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:38,520
Speaker 5: and the average person cannot afford to graduate from college

1514
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 5: one hundred thousand, two hundred thousand and three hundred thousand

1515
01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 5: and four hundred thousand dollars worth a debt. This is

1516
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 5: a fucking house, a car, a whole bunch of shit

1517
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:49,800
Speaker 5: combined into one. And you graduate and you can't get

1518
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 5: a fucking job making decent ways you want to pay

1519
01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 5: the shit back. This is why now you have a

1520
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 5: huger percentage of everror of people graduating going back home

1521
01:18:57,520 --> 01:19:00,160
Speaker 5: and staying home till they get into their thirties now,

1522
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 5: because they, god damn what the fucker cannot pay for

1523
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:06,000
Speaker 5: the cost of college education, and education matters in our

1524
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:10,360
Speaker 5: country because it's one of those things where without some

1525
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:13,320
Speaker 5: form of higher education, it doesn't have to be a

1526
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:16,160
Speaker 5: four year degree, but without some form of higher education,

1527
01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 5: you're not gonna make it.

1528
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. My thing is, I really just think there's a

1529
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:29,519
Speaker 2: fundamental misunderstanding of what college is, and I think it's

1530
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:31,760
Speaker 2: been used as a class system to separate the half

1531
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:35,679
Speaker 2: and have not more so than it has to educate people.

1532
01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 2: For example, sixty Dartmouth students were charged with cheating in

1533
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 2: the ethics class. I believe that ethics class cheating.

1534
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 3: A lot of people cheating in college.

1535
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:52,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, in the ethics class though, ethics, right, which is

1536
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:55,439
Speaker 2: about you know, morality and not.

1537
01:19:55,479 --> 01:19:57,800
Speaker 5: Cheating and shit, right, a lot of people in a

1538
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 5: lot of larger universities and put like this, it's a

1539
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 5: lot of people with degrees that are dumb, and a

1540
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:08,479
Speaker 5: lot of people have cheated to get these degrees, have

1541
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 5: copy tests and plagiaris and all kinds of shit to

1542
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:13,240
Speaker 5: get degrees. So just because you have a degree don't

1543
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 5: mean you properly earned it, and it also don't mean

1544
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 5: that you retain the knowledge from it. Yeah that ethics,

1545
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:29,520
Speaker 5: you cheated in the one class. It's about not doing that, right, Yeah, Okay.

1546
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:35,559
Speaker 2: That's that's what it's about. Anyway. They've been charged with

1547
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 2: aut the co violation after the school discovered widespread achieving

1548
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 2: in the ethics course design to help struggling student athletes

1549
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 2: student athletes student athletes, like, it's just so funny because

1550
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:50,920
Speaker 2: a lot of this shit is the lifeblood of the university. Like,

1551
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:56,960
Speaker 2: I honestly feel like Americans think the purpose of secondary

1552
01:20:57,080 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 2: education is the crown or college football champion and great

1553
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:02,679
Speaker 2: basket brackets for basketball.

1554
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:07,440
Speaker 5: Of course, because uh, you know this quote unquote playoffs.

1555
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:10,799
Speaker 5: You know that you guys are having uh the mass

1556
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:14,240
Speaker 5: majority college students, you know are back or on their

1557
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:18,639
Speaker 5: way back. But Monday, when it is the Monday, Yeah, Monday,

1558
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:21,760
Speaker 5: you're gonna be crowning the first champion. Guess what they

1559
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:23,800
Speaker 5: need to be back at school, right, you know? And

1560
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:26,800
Speaker 5: the same thing for the the in March, for the

1561
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:29,679
Speaker 5: sweet sixteen. You have all these that they're they're traveling

1562
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:32,640
Speaker 5: their Monday, Tuesday night, Wednesday night midnight.

1563
01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:35,640
Speaker 3: All this year we chier cheer, go, go go.

1564
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 5: You have very unrealistic expectations on these on these quote

1565
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:42,680
Speaker 5: unquote student athletes. But yet you expect them to be

1566
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:45,400
Speaker 5: everywhere and do everything and keep their GPAs up and

1567
01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:47,960
Speaker 5: do all this shit when motherfucker you can bare to

1568
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:50,000
Speaker 5: work forty hours a week and do all the other

1569
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:52,200
Speaker 5: obligations that you're supposed to do. But yet you expect

1570
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:55,519
Speaker 5: an athlete to uh do your forty hours a week

1571
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:58,360
Speaker 5: and go to class and keep a GPA up and travel.

1572
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:02,160
Speaker 2: But they don't really expect it. They don't really expect

1573
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:05,639
Speaker 2: it because you're giving them grades. But here's a class

1574
01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 2: where it's like the same thing happening a chapel hill.

1575
01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:12,960
Speaker 2: We're gonna create bullshit classes for these kids. Like and

1576
01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:15,160
Speaker 2: like I said, I'm not blaming the kids. All of

1577
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 2: us would cheat if you just told us, hey, here's

1578
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 2: your college degree, go to just write, you know, copy

1579
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:22,240
Speaker 2: this paper and send it in. We'll just give you

1580
01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:25,000
Speaker 2: a a all of us will do it, right. I

1581
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:28,080
Speaker 2: don't feel find myself to be morally superior to these people.

1582
01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 2: I didn't get that opportunity, but also didn't have the

1583
01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:33,800
Speaker 2: way of the university's financial goals on my back. With

1584
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 2: that I did. I'm not jealous or anything like that.

1585
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:41,840
Speaker 2: My point being it's a farce. So why are we

1586
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 2: even you know, what's the point of getting all caught

1587
01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:48,120
Speaker 2: up and all this bullshit when when we know it's

1588
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:51,559
Speaker 2: not real. So to me, the president coming up with

1589
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:54,799
Speaker 2: a program that says, here's two years of community college

1590
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:57,120
Speaker 2: to help people get started or at least get them

1591
01:22:57,160 --> 01:23:01,680
Speaker 2: close to some uh closer to that goals, and then

1592
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:06,439
Speaker 2: people go, no, it's cool locally, but nationally no, colleges

1593
01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:07,760
Speaker 2: don't really take it serious either.

1594
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:10,160
Speaker 5: No, not guess for me, that's why I have the

1595
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 5: problem with people just being the hypocrites about it because

1596
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:16,000
Speaker 5: it's cool until you, quote unquote get caught.

1597
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:18,840
Speaker 3: And then it's my university not yours. Is your university

1598
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:19,320
Speaker 3: not mine.

1599
01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:21,760
Speaker 5: Everybody picks sizes, everybody picked teens, is like, well, fuck you,

1600
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:23,559
Speaker 5: because at the end of the day, everybody is a

1601
01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:25,320
Speaker 5: hypocrite when it comes to the system.

1602
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:32,720
Speaker 2: Right, So, yeah, they were cheating. They got caught. A

1603
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 2: quarter of those who were rolled in the Sports, Ethics

1604
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 2: and Religion were said that participated in the scheme, which

1605
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 2: involved students answering questions for absent classmates on electronic devices

1606
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:48,439
Speaker 2: design to record attendance. I felt pretty burned by the

1607
01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:53,519
Speaker 2: whole thing. Religion Professor Randall Obama to Bloomberg. I've never

1608
01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:56,439
Speaker 2: faced anything on this scale before. Rather than flunk the ACUS,

1609
01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:59,880
Speaker 2: students Oamara ultimately decided to drop their scores by let

1610
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 2: their grade and that that was the right thing to do,

1611
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:06,880
Speaker 2: not that any of them would know it. So yeah,

1612
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:09,000
Speaker 2: because you can't feel them. I mean, now you're gonna

1613
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:11,760
Speaker 2: have kids that can't play basketball for the Mark Manness Tournament.

1614
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 5: So right, costing your school billions of dollars in that,

1615
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:16,360
Speaker 5: and the person is for the alumni. They don't pay

1616
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:19,800
Speaker 5: their alumni prices then and get season tickets to to

1617
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:21,519
Speaker 5: see me out there.

1618
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 2: So I just thought that was interesting. Man. People mad

1619
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 2: at Kendrick lamar Cairn. He fucked up. He did an

1620
01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:39,720
Speaker 2: interview and with Billboard Publishing and he was talking about Ferguson.

1621
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:44,280
Speaker 2: He condemned the killing the Michael Brown, but he said

1622
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:48,839
Speaker 2: that the issues also start within the community. I wish someone,

1623
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:52,519
Speaker 2: I wish somebody would look into our neighborhood knowing that

1624
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 2: it is already a situation mentally where it's fucked up.

1625
01:24:55,920 --> 01:25:00,240
Speaker 2: What happened to Michael Brown? What's up? Guys? What are

1626
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:00,800
Speaker 2: you doing? Jerk?

1627
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:02,040
Speaker 3: Ah?

1628
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 2: Oh man, they channel loud anyway. It is so, he says,

1629
01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 2: what happened to Michael Brown should have never happened. Never.

1630
01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:13,040
Speaker 2: But when we don't have respect for ourselves, how do

1631
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:15,880
Speaker 2: we expect them to respect us. It starts from with

1632
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:18,679
Speaker 2: It don't start with just a rally, don't start from looting.

1633
01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 2: It starts from within. What do you think about those comments?

1634
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:30,160
Speaker 3: They're problematic, But a lot of old people feel like

1635
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:30,559
Speaker 3: that too.

1636
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I just think it's stupid and I think

1637
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 2: it's wrong, and I think he should have said it.

1638
01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:40,240
Speaker 2: At the same time, I think he's a rapper, and

1639
01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:44,559
Speaker 2: I'm not like, I'm not gonna spend good kid mass

1640
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:47,680
Speaker 2: City any less than I do. But yeah, I'm not.

1641
01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:50,000
Speaker 2: Just because I like somebody as a rapper doesn't mean

1642
01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 2: I go yeah in those comments, you know that's fine, Like, no,

1643
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 2: they were fucked up, you fucked up. I think he

1644
01:25:56,400 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 2: don't care, right, and but I don't care. I don't

1645
01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:01,519
Speaker 2: mean don't care about black people, So don't go extreme

1646
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:04,280
Speaker 2: on me. No what I'm saying. I think he doesn't

1647
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 2: care enough to have learned the details of the conversation

1648
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:12,160
Speaker 2: that's going on around Ferguson, because if he did, and

1649
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:13,960
Speaker 2: if he had ever taken time to speak on it,

1650
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:16,800
Speaker 2: he would have been confronted so much with a what

1651
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:19,799
Speaker 2: about black on black crime? What about this, that eventually

1652
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:21,720
Speaker 2: you go, oh, wait a minute, this is all of

1653
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:24,360
Speaker 2: smoke screen. Nobody cares about this black on black crime shit.

1654
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 2: Nobody cares about us respecting each other in our neighborhoods.

1655
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:29,840
Speaker 2: This is just what they say to avoid, to just

1656
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:32,920
Speaker 2: point out the fact that we're covering something up look

1657
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 2: over there instead.

1658
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 3: Right, And it's almost similar to the Oprah thing he's touring.

1659
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:40,799
Speaker 3: He's going around the country.

1660
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:43,040
Speaker 5: He's going around the world like he's doing shit, like

1661
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:46,520
Speaker 5: he's his ear is not to the ground on what's happening.

1662
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:49,559
Speaker 2: Well, he don't. He don't want it to be. You can't.

1663
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:52,640
Speaker 2: I mean, like I said, I think people need to

1664
01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:57,400
Speaker 2: examine the side themselves once and for all. Why dude,

1665
01:26:57,479 --> 01:26:59,720
Speaker 2: does he have to care? Why do you feel like

1666
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:02,479
Speaker 2: these people have to care? Because my big thing is,

1667
01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:07,840
Speaker 2: if anything the Black Lives Matter Ferguson has proven is

1668
01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:10,160
Speaker 2: that you don't need a celebrity to do a goddamn thing.

1669
01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 2: You don't need them to understand, You don't need their quotes.

1670
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:17,120
Speaker 2: Even when they don't get it, it doesn't derail anything.

1671
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:20,519
Speaker 2: Like even when you have someone like Oprah say something,

1672
01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 2: it doesn't actually stop the next movement or the next thing.

1673
01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:26,839
Speaker 2: It's not like Oprah says something and then everybody cancels

1674
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:30,600
Speaker 2: Black Brunch, the Black Brunch thing. It doesn't matter if

1675
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 2: they get it or not. They're either If they care,

1676
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:35,719
Speaker 2: they'll learn, and if they don't care, they won't learn.

1677
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:37,720
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that mean you shouldn't call them out.

1678
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:41,439
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, examine yourself. Why does it matter to

1679
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:43,920
Speaker 2: you that they get it because a lot of times,

1680
01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:50,559
Speaker 2: like for example, and I mean this both ways, why

1681
01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:53,360
Speaker 2: does it matter that to protect Kendrick Lamar for not

1682
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 2: getting it? You know what I mean? Like the well,

1683
01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:58,360
Speaker 2: maybe he's like you said, maybe he's been busy on

1684
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:01,160
Speaker 2: the road or other people busy. Jay Cole came out

1685
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:02,880
Speaker 2: with a whole album. He still know to know, he's

1686
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:03,800
Speaker 2: still on the up and up.

1687
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:05,960
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, he.

1688
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 2: Wants to know. Other people don't want to know, Like, yep,

1689
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:13,160
Speaker 2: you know if you if you care, there's certain tyler

1690
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 2: qual you know, like there's people that care and they

1691
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:18,680
Speaker 2: want to know John Legend, they care and they want

1692
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:21,360
Speaker 2: to know, and there's some people that are just like, man,

1693
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:23,920
Speaker 2: I'm not really caring attention to this ship. And I'm

1694
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 2: gonna give the most PC quote unquote and by PC,

1695
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:30,800
Speaker 2: I think what happens is these guys are like, I

1696
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:33,160
Speaker 2: don't want to piss anybody off. I haven't really been

1697
01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:35,840
Speaker 2: paying attention to this. And this feels like the right

1698
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:38,519
Speaker 2: thing to say because there's not much thought puting to it.

1699
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:42,120
Speaker 2: But he's just a rapper. He's not a fucking political leader.

1700
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:45,200
Speaker 2: He's not you know, he's just a guy who raps.

1701
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 2: Even if you think about a good kid in mass

1702
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:49,800
Speaker 2: City's not really a race record, you know. It's not

1703
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:52,479
Speaker 2: about racism. It doesn't talk much about race in there

1704
01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:57,719
Speaker 2: at all. It's a very smart record and it's very Uh,

1705
01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:02,040
Speaker 2: he's very aware of his story, right, but that doesn't

1706
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:05,240
Speaker 2: mean he's aware of history. It doesn't mean he's aware

1707
01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:11,360
Speaker 2: of just general the general happenings of the world and whatnot. So,

1708
01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:14,720
Speaker 2: you know, for me personally, I just looked at it like, Hm,

1709
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:16,639
Speaker 2: Kendrick don't care and don't.

1710
01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:17,960
Speaker 3: Know, right, And it's funny.

1711
01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:20,880
Speaker 5: Don't have people put demands and expectations on famous people

1712
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:23,439
Speaker 5: that you don't put on broke people, you know, just

1713
01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:26,439
Speaker 5: like people who don't have money and are in his status.

1714
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 5: Some people care, some people don't, some people don't informed,

1715
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:31,200
Speaker 5: some people are not. Same thing with them the people too.

1716
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:33,679
Speaker 5: Just because they're famous, don't mean they care. Just because

1717
01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:35,880
Speaker 5: they're famous, don't mean they're aware. Just because they're famous

1718
01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:37,320
Speaker 5: don't mean to give a fuck, you know. So it's

1719
01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:40,440
Speaker 5: just one of those things where you put unrealistic expectations

1720
01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:42,160
Speaker 5: on them because they're in the spotlight.

1721
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:45,760
Speaker 2: Well, also, he's really good and that's more important than

1722
01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:48,479
Speaker 2: even just the fame shit. A lot of people are like,

1723
01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:50,600
Speaker 2: you're really good at what you do. I want to

1724
01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:53,840
Speaker 2: like you as a human being, you know, because like

1725
01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:56,160
Speaker 2: I said that, this is why I don't one of

1726
01:29:56,200 --> 01:29:58,280
Speaker 2: the reasons I don't do the celebrity worship, and I

1727
01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:02,280
Speaker 2: don't really I don't really come down on celebrities or

1728
01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:06,920
Speaker 2: artists or whatever for when they fuck up. The second

1729
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:09,160
Speaker 2: that person stops being entertaining to me, I don't care

1730
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:12,000
Speaker 2: what they have to say, correct, So I'm not gonna

1731
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:15,799
Speaker 2: lie to myself like Kendrick Lamar's comments hurt me personally

1732
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:18,040
Speaker 2: because they didn't know they did not because if he

1733
01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:21,880
Speaker 2: would have if fucking the next Kendrick Lamar album sound

1734
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:25,080
Speaker 2: like the last app Sole album, I'll forget that, nigga

1735
01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:27,400
Speaker 2: in a minute, because at the end of the day,

1736
01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:29,960
Speaker 2: it's all about entertaining. I'm sure if our podcast quality

1737
01:30:30,520 --> 01:30:32,559
Speaker 2: fail the fuck off, there's people that'd be like, Yeah,

1738
01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:35,120
Speaker 2: I don't care what they said about that bullshit because

1739
01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:38,800
Speaker 2: fuck them, they show is whack no correct. I don't

1740
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:41,519
Speaker 2: think you should ever forget that moment. Like I think

1741
01:30:41,560 --> 01:30:45,120
Speaker 2: a lot of celebrities and entertainers and fans fool themselves

1742
01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:47,240
Speaker 2: into this idea of thinking, well, because I agree with

1743
01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:51,920
Speaker 2: someone's political stances and shit, then obviously I want to

1744
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:54,599
Speaker 2: support their career. And it's like, yeah, but if they whack,

1745
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:58,080
Speaker 2: I can't force myself right. Neither can most people right.

1746
01:30:58,160 --> 01:30:59,680
Speaker 3: And to me, it's just one of those things.

1747
01:30:59,880 --> 01:31:02,840
Speaker 5: If I like your music, I enjoy your music, but

1748
01:31:02,920 --> 01:31:04,080
Speaker 5: don't like your music, you're whack.

1749
01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:07,080
Speaker 3: Like J Cole's whacked to meet the nigga sucks. He

1750
01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:09,200
Speaker 3: can do all the political shit he wants to. I'm

1751
01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:11,400
Speaker 3: not going to listen to this record, you know. So

1752
01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:12,559
Speaker 3: to me, I don't know.

1753
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:14,560
Speaker 5: I mentally can separate the two, but a lot of

1754
01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:17,280
Speaker 5: people they under that up in the one, and because

1755
01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:19,879
Speaker 5: I can separate it, it's easier for me to digest

1756
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:20,240
Speaker 5: all this.

1757
01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:29,479
Speaker 2: Right. So Azaleah Banks, full time Twitter beef for a

1758
01:31:29,560 --> 01:31:33,120
Speaker 2: part time rapper, went in on his comments, said that

1759
01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:35,120
Speaker 2: the dumbest shit I ever heard a black man say,

1760
01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:38,800
Speaker 2: and she criticized him for saying it to a white

1761
01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 2: publication and told him to speak for your fucking self

1762
01:31:42,240 --> 01:31:45,080
Speaker 2: during her series of tweets that was still going on.

1763
01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:48,799
Speaker 2: When this article is printed. When we don't respect ourselves,

1764
01:31:48,880 --> 01:31:51,360
Speaker 2: how do we expect them to respect us. Dumbest shit

1765
01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:53,840
Speaker 2: I ever heard the black man say. Lol, do you

1766
01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:57,600
Speaker 2: know about the generational effects of poverty, racism, and discrimination?

1767
01:31:58,240 --> 01:32:01,360
Speaker 2: There are things in society that benefit select few of us. Fine,

1768
01:32:01,640 --> 01:32:03,639
Speaker 2: but don't put down the rest by saying they don't

1769
01:32:03,640 --> 01:32:07,240
Speaker 2: respect themselves. How dare you open your face to a

1770
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:10,800
Speaker 2: white publication and tell them we don't respect ourselves. Speak

1771
01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:13,759
Speaker 2: for your fucking self. I really pray for the minds

1772
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:15,760
Speaker 2: of the urban youth. I really do, because I was

1773
01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:18,280
Speaker 2: once on the side of feeling like I wasn't old anything,

1774
01:32:18,920 --> 01:32:21,080
Speaker 2: once on the side of feeling like black people ain't

1775
01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:24,800
Speaker 2: shit because that's what American my social studies textbooks taught me.

1776
01:32:25,240 --> 01:32:27,680
Speaker 2: But coming an adult and doing my own research has

1777
01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:30,920
Speaker 2: really open up my fucking eyes. And I get upset

1778
01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:34,040
Speaker 2: to know that that are still young black kids in

1779
01:32:34,120 --> 01:32:36,920
Speaker 2: our public schools being indoctrinated with the same shit they

1780
01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:39,639
Speaker 2: pumped into my head. And fuck all this shit about

1781
01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:42,280
Speaker 2: a race and racial barriers and getting along. Why does

1782
01:32:42,320 --> 01:32:45,880
Speaker 2: white people, why does white American thing blacks ever want

1783
01:32:45,880 --> 01:32:48,720
Speaker 2: to be here or even want to be here. I

1784
01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:51,679
Speaker 2: really just want my fucking reparations and want you guys

1785
01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:54,240
Speaker 2: to stop killing my sons and telling my daughters that ugly.

1786
01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:57,000
Speaker 2: You can hate me and call me nigger all you want,

1787
01:32:57,360 --> 01:32:59,960
Speaker 2: because chances are I probably think you are a crack

1788
01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:04,400
Speaker 2: or two. You know, other people were saying we should

1789
01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:06,679
Speaker 2: probably this is what Carol R. Brown said, We should

1790
01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:09,439
Speaker 2: probably stop expecting people who can speak eloquently about their

1791
01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:12,559
Speaker 2: own experiences to be able to do the same for others. Right,

1792
01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:16,719
Speaker 2: doc Zeus said regarding Kendrick, sometimes your favorite artist genius

1793
01:33:16,720 --> 01:33:19,040
Speaker 2: can be hyper focused into one particular avenue would be

1794
01:33:19,080 --> 01:33:22,599
Speaker 2: a fool in another. Another dude, Big Underscore Business said,

1795
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:25,759
Speaker 2: give Kendrick and Oscar made everybody think he's a future

1796
01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:29,400
Speaker 2: pro black leader, but really the black missing form version

1797
01:33:29,439 --> 01:33:33,320
Speaker 2: of Ned Flanders. Another dude said, Kendrick Lamar has been

1798
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:36,120
Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy five percent opinionated and pro black,

1799
01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:40,000
Speaker 2: conscious love and women. Now he says words one thing

1800
01:33:40,120 --> 01:33:44,800
Speaker 2: wrong and we've lost him cracking the fuck up. Yeah,

1801
01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:46,679
Speaker 2: people do to that too, where they throw you under

1802
01:33:46,680 --> 01:33:48,559
Speaker 2: the bus at the one fuck up, no matter what

1803
01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:52,679
Speaker 2: you've been doing your whole life. Art Vandalas says, want

1804
01:33:52,720 --> 01:33:55,439
Speaker 2: to know what young Thug and Kendrick Lamar have in common.

1805
01:33:55,920 --> 01:34:00,600
Speaker 2: Neither is a spokesperson for the movement, right Yeah, Like

1806
01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:03,240
Speaker 2: I said, I don't really have much of an attachment

1807
01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:08,080
Speaker 2: to it. But you know Azalea Banks, I mean, she beefs.

1808
01:34:08,200 --> 01:34:13,479
Speaker 2: She was after this, she started beefing with fucking Lupe

1809
01:34:13,479 --> 01:34:16,920
Speaker 2: Fiasco on Twitter. Like her. I feel like if you

1810
01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:21,719
Speaker 2: pay for her concert, then it should come with twenty

1811
01:34:21,760 --> 01:34:25,840
Speaker 2: minutes of Twitter beef, just live on the screen, like

1812
01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:28,360
Speaker 2: like we're gonna tap into my iPhone and we're gonna

1813
01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:30,000
Speaker 2: go on the echo phone real quick and we're gonna

1814
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:32,840
Speaker 2: see what's going on. Uh oh uh oh. It looks

1815
01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:35,880
Speaker 2: like Bob said some shit, I'm about to go in, y'all.

1816
01:34:35,880 --> 01:34:38,920
Speaker 2: Hold up, you know the it's just her tweeting for

1817
01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:42,439
Speaker 2: twenty minutes and then she gets back to singing, what

1818
01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:44,679
Speaker 2: can go ahead? I'm sorry, I'll say, here's a here's

1819
01:34:44,680 --> 01:34:45,800
Speaker 2: a song, a number one song.

1820
01:35:01,640 --> 01:35:04,360
Speaker 3: Hey, I can be the answer. I'm ready to dance

1821
01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:05,160
Speaker 3: when the bim up.

1822
01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:07,479
Speaker 9: Then when it has that to get to camera, you see,

1823
01:35:07,479 --> 01:35:09,960
Speaker 9: even that bitch sits the campa ended, even that young

1824
01:35:10,240 --> 01:35:12,439
Speaker 9: study and the bitch you want to you could be

1825
01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:14,439
Speaker 9: and I could freak fit that pump which the beef

1826
01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:15,840
Speaker 9: and you know, what your bitch you be called with

1827
01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:18,360
Speaker 9: no even I just wanted to that punch with peeps

1828
01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:20,880
Speaker 9: in sitting that bunch. If we end kicking, which a

1829
01:35:20,920 --> 01:35:22,680
Speaker 9: bit to come pump for the reasons you know where

1830
01:35:22,720 --> 01:35:24,679
Speaker 9: to get like from end the even that she wanted

1831
01:35:24,720 --> 01:35:27,000
Speaker 9: took my plump in the evening. If it's that some

1832
01:35:27,240 --> 01:35:29,920
Speaker 9: tongue that even, I guess that cut gets any end.

1833
01:35:30,280 --> 01:35:31,920
Speaker 1: I ust that can't get anything.

1834
01:35:32,160 --> 01:35:39,559
Speaker 3: I used that cop get I reget.

1835
01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:42,479
Speaker 9: I listened to Onto on the Uptown and look, you

1836
01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:45,599
Speaker 9: know what summer, don't you order the major on bitch?

1837
01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:46,479
Speaker 11: But what are you made?

1838
01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:49,639
Speaker 9: Episode of shot up you? I could bust your head.

1839
01:35:49,680 --> 01:35:52,160
Speaker 9: Oh do you into your fucking young dude? You make

1840
01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:53,400
Speaker 9: the song well great.

1841
01:35:55,200 --> 01:35:59,040
Speaker 2: And that's why I don't care what So this is

1842
01:35:59,439 --> 01:36:04,599
Speaker 2: this illustration on my point from earlier. Kendrick says some

1843
01:36:04,600 --> 01:36:09,040
Speaker 2: some wax shit and because his music is good, I'm like,

1844
01:36:09,160 --> 01:36:12,160
Speaker 2: I will take his music and leave his wax shit

1845
01:36:12,720 --> 01:36:16,120
Speaker 2: and his opinion and go, yeah, I don't really give

1846
01:36:16,160 --> 01:36:16,519
Speaker 2: a fuck.

1847
01:36:17,200 --> 01:36:17,679
Speaker 3: Correct.

1848
01:36:17,880 --> 01:36:20,479
Speaker 2: I think you're wrong and that's not your job, so

1849
01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:23,759
Speaker 2: just fuck you in your opinion. Allowed to keep rolling

1850
01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:27,519
Speaker 2: with his music right. Her opinion on social media. I

1851
01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:30,519
Speaker 2: agree with what she was saying, like, yes, that is right.

1852
01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:33,160
Speaker 2: Niggas do be tripping and you got it and you

1853
01:36:33,240 --> 01:36:35,559
Speaker 2: should be able to feel old and this country is

1854
01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:38,080
Speaker 2: fucked up. And then I hear music and I go, yeah,

1855
01:36:38,120 --> 01:36:39,040
Speaker 2: I don't really care that much.

1856
01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:47,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, but right, you shit don't sound no better? Dog.

1857
01:36:48,320 --> 01:36:51,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. I see Leslie Mack upset in the chat room saying,

1858
01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:54,000
Speaker 2: how can we call out Don Lemon but not Kendrick.

1859
01:36:54,160 --> 01:36:57,720
Speaker 2: I'm saying I don't agree with Kendrick's moments. And two,

1860
01:36:59,000 --> 01:37:00,840
Speaker 2: Don Lemon's not good at his job.

1861
01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:04,320
Speaker 5: No, he the fuck not. He's his motherfucking job, and

1862
01:37:04,360 --> 01:37:07,280
Speaker 5: his job is also the interview people know all that shit.

1863
01:37:07,360 --> 01:37:08,280
Speaker 5: That's not Kendrick's job.

1864
01:37:08,360 --> 01:37:13,559
Speaker 2: Yeah. If Kendrick Lamar's raps started being like being like

1865
01:37:13,640 --> 01:37:16,519
Speaker 2: black people don't respect themselves and that's why they kill us,

1866
01:37:17,080 --> 01:37:19,640
Speaker 2: trust me, I'll be like, oh, fuck this record and

1867
01:37:19,720 --> 01:37:23,320
Speaker 2: fuck this nigga, right like it's to me. Like to me,

1868
01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:28,920
Speaker 2: I don't pay Kendrick Lamar a fee to hear his

1869
01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:34,559
Speaker 2: opinion on black righteousness in an interview. What I do

1870
01:37:34,640 --> 01:37:37,240
Speaker 2: pay is to have an entertainer album period.

1871
01:37:37,400 --> 01:37:37,599
Speaker 3: Right.

1872
01:37:37,680 --> 01:37:40,320
Speaker 2: So if I'm entertained by that album. I'm cool like

1873
01:37:40,360 --> 01:37:43,240
Speaker 2: it's I don't understand how people can't see the difference.

1874
01:37:43,280 --> 01:37:45,080
Speaker 2: That's that's an obvious point, you know.

1875
01:37:45,160 --> 01:37:48,679
Speaker 5: And I've always been like this, Like uh with Puffy

1876
01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:50,559
Speaker 5: when he was in the big shine ass suits.

1877
01:37:50,640 --> 01:37:54,000
Speaker 3: Somebody take that. Take that with Biggie. I love the ship.

1878
01:37:54,760 --> 01:37:55,360
Speaker 2: You know what?

1879
01:37:55,360 --> 01:37:56,920
Speaker 3: What did it look like a fucking clown?

1880
01:37:57,120 --> 01:37:57,320
Speaker 5: Yes?

1881
01:37:57,560 --> 01:37:58,640
Speaker 3: Did it look ridiculous?

1882
01:37:58,920 --> 01:38:02,080
Speaker 5: Yes, you know, But I like the shit so And

1883
01:38:02,080 --> 01:38:04,640
Speaker 5: like I said, I'm very simple when it comes to

1884
01:38:04,720 --> 01:38:05,080
Speaker 5: this shit.

1885
01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:08,600
Speaker 3: I don't combine. I don't tie up. And also.

1886
01:38:10,040 --> 01:38:12,840
Speaker 5: I can cannot agree with what you say and still

1887
01:38:13,000 --> 01:38:15,160
Speaker 5: like what you do, and people, for some reason like

1888
01:38:15,240 --> 01:38:18,599
Speaker 5: to combine all that shit together. They think I have

1889
01:38:18,680 --> 01:38:20,680
Speaker 5: to like you and like what you do and like

1890
01:38:20,760 --> 01:38:23,080
Speaker 5: your craft and like your work and like your opinion.

1891
01:38:23,280 --> 01:38:25,479
Speaker 5: And if any of this I don't like this, fuck you,

1892
01:38:25,560 --> 01:38:28,479
Speaker 5: and I'm an have a tendency not to be like that.

1893
01:38:28,520 --> 01:38:30,479
Speaker 5: I have a tendency to separate the two. And also,

1894
01:38:30,520 --> 01:38:33,160
Speaker 5: it is a big difference between people that get paid

1895
01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:36,559
Speaker 5: to articulate words for a living, like on TV, and

1896
01:38:36,640 --> 01:38:38,920
Speaker 5: people that actually do a performance.

1897
01:38:38,479 --> 01:38:41,439
Speaker 2: Art exactly like I don't sets over that shit. So,

1898
01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:45,280
Speaker 2: you know, I when I put in an album, I

1899
01:38:45,320 --> 01:38:47,360
Speaker 2: hear an album, I don't hear your opinion that you

1900
01:38:47,400 --> 01:38:48,240
Speaker 2: gave it an interview.

1901
01:38:48,320 --> 01:38:48,759
Speaker 3: Correct.

1902
01:38:48,880 --> 01:38:50,680
Speaker 2: You know when I when I when I listen to

1903
01:38:51,760 --> 01:38:55,880
Speaker 2: I by Kendrick Lamar, I'm not going, yeah, I listened

1904
01:38:55,880 --> 01:38:58,360
Speaker 2: to Odds, so I can think about that interview he gave, like,

1905
01:38:58,800 --> 01:39:00,760
Speaker 2: and I know that that's You know, when I go

1906
01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:04,479
Speaker 2: see a movie with mel Gibson in it, I don't go, oh, yeah,

1907
01:39:04,600 --> 01:39:08,040
Speaker 2: I'm seeing I'm watching Mel Gibson's movie and the only

1908
01:39:08,080 --> 01:39:11,320
Speaker 2: thing I can think about is his racism. I'm just like,

1909
01:39:11,520 --> 01:39:13,559
Speaker 2: is he doing a good job in this movie? That's

1910
01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:17,200
Speaker 2: the product that I was sold to me. It is not.

1911
01:39:17,520 --> 01:39:19,040
Speaker 2: You know, it's not that much of a leap. I

1912
01:39:19,040 --> 01:39:22,200
Speaker 2: think people make that leap. Some people make that leap

1913
01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:24,519
Speaker 2: and others don't. I've never made that leap. It's a

1914
01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:27,280
Speaker 2: fundamental thing that I disagree with a lot of people

1915
01:39:27,320 --> 01:39:29,599
Speaker 2: on it. Will never see out of eye on that shit,

1916
01:39:29,680 --> 01:39:37,040
Speaker 2: because to me, you're ascribing a level of importance and

1917
01:39:37,080 --> 01:39:39,880
Speaker 2: of putting a pedestal on people that they don't deserve.

1918
01:39:39,680 --> 01:39:41,320
Speaker 3: And they never asked for.

1919
01:39:42,040 --> 01:39:46,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you know, that's like if some magazine person

1920
01:39:46,479 --> 01:39:48,160
Speaker 2: wants to ask and you know, like I said, I'm

1921
01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:51,960
Speaker 2: always disappointed with these interviews anyway, because how's your follow

1922
01:39:52,040 --> 01:39:54,320
Speaker 2: up question? How's there no follow up question to this?

1923
01:39:55,600 --> 01:39:58,479
Speaker 2: Someone gives an opinion like that, and then the magazine

1924
01:39:58,479 --> 01:40:00,479
Speaker 2: person just moves on. Like this is one of the

1925
01:40:00,520 --> 01:40:02,880
Speaker 2: reason we need more black people in journalism, and we

1926
01:40:02,960 --> 01:40:06,720
Speaker 2: need like people from outside of the mainstream to be

1927
01:40:06,760 --> 01:40:12,280
Speaker 2: able to get a foot into these things, because I

1928
01:40:12,280 --> 01:40:14,760
Speaker 2: don't think a good black journalist asked this question that

1929
01:40:14,840 --> 01:40:17,160
Speaker 2: doesn't follow up. We're like, okay, well, can you go

1930
01:40:17,240 --> 01:40:17,960
Speaker 2: with more too.

1931
01:40:17,800 --> 01:40:21,719
Speaker 5: This, like can you explain more or elaborate more or

1932
01:40:22,280 --> 01:40:25,439
Speaker 5: or something you know like that, and and the thing

1933
01:40:25,479 --> 01:40:28,320
Speaker 5: about it a lot of times and this is just

1934
01:40:28,680 --> 01:40:30,840
Speaker 5: I just feel like when it comes to celebrity, especially

1935
01:40:30,880 --> 01:40:34,080
Speaker 5: with the Facebook and all these social medias, I think

1936
01:40:34,120 --> 01:40:36,840
Speaker 5: a lot of people have a tendency to look at

1937
01:40:37,360 --> 01:40:39,679
Speaker 5: entertainments how we used to look at them, where entertainment

1938
01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:41,719
Speaker 5: is back and they have these same fucked up views,

1939
01:40:42,040 --> 01:40:45,160
Speaker 5: opinions disconnecting all this bullshit, but you never heard it,

1940
01:40:45,280 --> 01:40:48,599
Speaker 5: you know, because of social media kind of wasn't around

1941
01:40:48,600 --> 01:40:51,559
Speaker 5: and protected them. But they had people's jobs who they had,

1942
01:40:51,600 --> 01:40:53,920
Speaker 5: people who they paid to make them look a certain

1943
01:40:53,960 --> 01:40:55,760
Speaker 5: way and their image to be a certain way. And

1944
01:40:55,840 --> 01:40:58,120
Speaker 5: I think now because people can put their views and

1945
01:40:58,120 --> 01:41:00,719
Speaker 5: put their opinions and things more out in the public format,

1946
01:41:01,000 --> 01:41:03,040
Speaker 5: people have a tendency to get mad at a well.

1947
01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:07,599
Speaker 2: Nah, people have always done interviews promote their music. Yes,

1948
01:41:07,640 --> 01:41:09,840
Speaker 2: this ain't no different. That's just been the same since

1949
01:41:09,880 --> 01:41:12,680
Speaker 2: the fucking fifties. Like, got an album coming out, You're

1950
01:41:12,680 --> 01:41:15,240
Speaker 2: gonna do some interviews. So it ain't even like some

1951
01:41:15,479 --> 01:41:17,679
Speaker 2: like oh we would have never known. No, we would

1952
01:41:17,680 --> 01:41:20,280
Speaker 2: have known, you know what I mean. Like that's like

1953
01:41:20,320 --> 01:41:23,840
Speaker 2: I do feel like that is because you know, like

1954
01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:27,559
Speaker 2: I said, I'm trying to operate talking about the grades

1955
01:41:27,560 --> 01:41:32,160
Speaker 2: of the situation. There's people out there that I've seen

1956
01:41:32,280 --> 01:41:35,080
Speaker 2: just defending his comments because they like his music. That's stupid,

1957
01:41:35,200 --> 01:41:38,719
Speaker 2: I agree, Like the comments are stupid. Like I don't

1958
01:41:38,800 --> 01:41:43,160
Speaker 2: understand it. Like if I didn't attribute a fucking byline

1959
01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:45,400
Speaker 2: to who said them, and I just told you a

1960
01:41:45,479 --> 01:41:48,240
Speaker 2: person said this, you would be like that person is

1961
01:41:48,280 --> 01:41:51,920
Speaker 2: not informed and is wrong. But it's like once I

1962
01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:54,000
Speaker 2: throw Kendrick Lamar out there, then it's like but I

1963
01:41:54,080 --> 01:41:56,920
Speaker 2: like his music, So I mean, hey, people just trying

1964
01:41:56,960 --> 01:41:59,760
Speaker 2: to jump up the rage machine and all this shit.

1965
01:41:59,880 --> 01:42:03,840
Speaker 2: Like I know, people vehemently disagree with that shit, no

1966
01:42:03,880 --> 01:42:06,639
Speaker 2: matter who would say that chick. So I don't even

1967
01:42:06,640 --> 01:42:09,040
Speaker 2: feel that it's that, you know, I really do think

1968
01:42:09,160 --> 01:42:12,639
Speaker 2: that what he said was fucked up, and I don't

1969
01:42:12,840 --> 01:42:14,920
Speaker 2: I haven't been out there defending him. I'm not trying

1970
01:42:14,960 --> 01:42:18,200
Speaker 2: to save him. I'm explaining why I don't get upset

1971
01:42:18,200 --> 01:42:21,160
Speaker 2: about the shit because I just don't put much weight

1972
01:42:21,200 --> 01:42:24,240
Speaker 2: on people just because they have a high album, you

1973
01:42:24,320 --> 01:42:26,000
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like I don't have that same

1974
01:42:26,040 --> 01:42:29,280
Speaker 2: attachment that a lot of people do have. I don't

1975
01:42:29,280 --> 01:42:32,439
Speaker 2: feel like this is it like this, I don't feel

1976
01:42:32,479 --> 01:42:34,240
Speaker 2: like this is his purview. Like I don't feel like

1977
01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:38,040
Speaker 2: he goes around the country trying to write racial injustices

1978
01:42:38,320 --> 01:42:41,479
Speaker 2: or spread the word or he's not a news anchor or,

1979
01:42:41,520 --> 01:42:43,960
Speaker 2: he's not you know, like his job is to make

1980
01:42:44,040 --> 01:42:46,880
Speaker 2: dope records and then there's a bunch of other shit

1981
01:42:46,960 --> 01:42:49,240
Speaker 2: that he does, you know what I mean. So I

1982
01:42:49,280 --> 01:42:52,920
Speaker 2: don't have the same issue around it. But no, you

1983
01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:56,800
Speaker 2: can't pull the card of let me promote something and

1984
01:42:56,840 --> 01:42:59,559
Speaker 2: get as many ears and eyes upon my opinion as

1985
01:42:59,640 --> 01:43:03,640
Speaker 2: possible and then go why everybody's so mad. I mean,

1986
01:43:03,680 --> 01:43:05,800
Speaker 2: it's fucked up that y'all out here trying to come

1987
01:43:05,800 --> 01:43:09,120
Speaker 2: out on me, Cause it's like, no, you wanted this.

1988
01:43:10,000 --> 01:43:12,120
Speaker 2: You if you didn't want people to get the opinion,

1989
01:43:12,160 --> 01:43:14,439
Speaker 2: you could have said I'm not doing this interview or

1990
01:43:14,840 --> 01:43:19,639
Speaker 2: no comment or whatever. You don't get to pick and choose, like, oh,

1991
01:43:19,680 --> 01:43:21,760
Speaker 2: people are mad at what I said, Well then no, no, no, no,

1992
01:43:21,800 --> 01:43:25,720
Speaker 2: that's cool. No no, no, nobody listening, nobody respond I

1993
01:43:25,760 --> 01:43:28,680
Speaker 2: would like no response for this, that you can't do that.

1994
01:43:29,640 --> 01:43:32,719
Speaker 2: So you so to me. I get why people are upset.

1995
01:43:33,439 --> 01:43:35,760
Speaker 2: I just I'm not. And it's like, you can't make

1996
01:43:35,800 --> 01:43:39,040
Speaker 2: me be upset because your ass is just you gonna

1997
01:43:39,080 --> 01:43:42,040
Speaker 2: be upset with the other people, But I'm not joining

1998
01:43:42,080 --> 01:43:44,240
Speaker 2: in on it. I'm still gonna be listening to Eye

1999
01:43:44,280 --> 01:43:46,840
Speaker 2: before the fre you get a free show, and I'm

2000
01:43:46,840 --> 01:43:49,120
Speaker 2: still gonna enjoy the music. But at the same time,

2001
01:43:49,160 --> 01:43:52,080
Speaker 2: it's like when I saw those comments, I went, hmm,

2002
01:43:52,080 --> 01:43:54,439
Speaker 2: that Nigga's in trouble. You can't say shit like that

2003
01:43:55,000 --> 01:43:58,479
Speaker 2: he and he doesn't care. It's like I said, it's

2004
01:43:58,560 --> 01:44:00,720
Speaker 2: up to people to care. It's up to people to

2005
01:44:00,800 --> 01:44:05,639
Speaker 2: measure and examine themselves. Why do why do they care

2006
01:44:05,840 --> 01:44:06,800
Speaker 2: if he cares or not?

2007
01:44:07,320 --> 01:44:07,599
Speaker 3: Right?

2008
01:44:07,760 --> 01:44:11,120
Speaker 2: And that's not a loaded question. I'm not saying that

2009
01:44:11,320 --> 01:44:14,400
Speaker 2: you shouldn't care. I'm just I'm saying, you gotta examine

2010
01:44:14,439 --> 01:44:17,240
Speaker 2: why you why do you care? I feel like I

2011
01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:19,320
Speaker 2: had to tap out of that kind of shit because

2012
01:44:19,360 --> 01:44:21,240
Speaker 2: I'm just not trying to be worked up all the

2013
01:44:21,280 --> 01:44:24,400
Speaker 2: goddamn time because because a black person didn't say the

2014
01:44:24,439 --> 01:44:26,639
Speaker 2: right fucking thing. I'm just not trying to be worked

2015
01:44:26,680 --> 01:44:29,840
Speaker 2: up all the time. There's other people that they couldn't

2016
01:44:29,880 --> 01:44:31,880
Speaker 2: live without being worked up all the time about this

2017
01:44:31,960 --> 01:44:36,040
Speaker 2: kind of shit. There's other people whose entire online presence,

2018
01:44:36,080 --> 01:44:40,240
Speaker 2: whose entire mission in life is to be on this

2019
01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:42,559
Speaker 2: kind of shit and be like, no, you need people

2020
01:44:42,600 --> 01:44:44,639
Speaker 2: need to stay on message and say the right things.

2021
01:44:45,000 --> 01:44:48,160
Speaker 2: And who knows, maybe this will be a lesson for him,

2022
01:44:48,560 --> 01:44:51,120
Speaker 2: Maybe those people will reach out to him, or maybe

2023
01:44:51,160 --> 01:44:53,200
Speaker 2: some of the criticism would be strong enough that he'll

2024
01:44:53,240 --> 01:44:56,080
Speaker 2: go back and have to explain this shit or back down.

2025
01:44:56,280 --> 01:44:58,920
Speaker 2: I haven't seen that very much. When people fuck up,

2026
01:44:59,120 --> 01:45:01,800
Speaker 2: most of the time, they go fucking double down on

2027
01:45:01,840 --> 01:45:04,880
Speaker 2: the ship and it gets worse and worse. But I like,

2028
01:45:05,160 --> 01:45:08,120
Speaker 2: to me, that's all a whole nother realm that is

2029
01:45:08,200 --> 01:45:10,639
Speaker 2: outside of whether or not I like good Kid Mad City.

2030
01:45:10,680 --> 01:45:11,760
Speaker 2: I can separate those two.

2031
01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:14,519
Speaker 3: YEP, I can too.

2032
01:45:14,560 --> 01:45:16,599
Speaker 5: And it's not gonna start me listening to his music

2033
01:45:16,640 --> 01:45:18,479
Speaker 5: and it's not gonna stop me playing his music.

2034
01:45:19,040 --> 01:45:20,960
Speaker 3: And if you act, I really.

2035
01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:23,000
Speaker 5: Don't care what you talk about either, because I will

2036
01:45:23,040 --> 01:45:24,360
Speaker 5: not be listening to your music.

2037
01:45:24,600 --> 01:45:26,760
Speaker 2: Right Like, when I see somebody fucked up, I'm just like, yeah,

2038
01:45:26,800 --> 01:45:29,120
Speaker 2: they fucked up. Other people see they fucked up, and

2039
01:45:29,120 --> 01:45:31,479
Speaker 2: it's like we gonna go in on him and write this,

2040
01:45:31,560 --> 01:45:35,720
Speaker 2: and that's fine. I wouldn't save this dude from that.

2041
01:45:35,800 --> 01:45:38,840
Speaker 2: And I know people that are that that, you know,

2042
01:45:38,960 --> 01:45:41,720
Speaker 2: I expect them, as fans of Kendrick to actually try

2043
01:45:41,720 --> 01:45:45,439
Speaker 2: to like save him from this. But I don't know

2044
01:45:45,479 --> 01:45:46,920
Speaker 2: how you can look at the comments and not be

2045
01:45:47,160 --> 01:45:50,559
Speaker 2: like this is wrong. I just I can't relate. There's

2046
01:45:50,640 --> 01:45:53,479
Speaker 2: nothing anybody is so good at that I can't look

2047
01:45:53,520 --> 01:45:55,480
Speaker 2: at those comments and be like, I disagree.

2048
01:45:55,040 --> 01:45:59,400
Speaker 3: With those, you know, because I disagree too.

2049
01:45:59,439 --> 01:46:02,439
Speaker 2: So because it worries about ways for me, also because

2050
01:46:02,479 --> 01:46:04,840
Speaker 2: I enjoy your music. I don't feel like I gotta

2051
01:46:04,880 --> 01:46:07,519
Speaker 2: save you, you know what I mean? Like I got

2052
01:46:07,560 --> 01:46:08,800
Speaker 2: my album already.

2053
01:46:08,560 --> 01:46:10,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, he says, a press play and keep going.

2054
01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:13,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, when the next album come out, you can have

2055
01:46:13,320 --> 01:46:17,320
Speaker 2: my next fifteen dollars. But I'm still not agreeing with

2056
01:46:17,479 --> 01:46:21,920
Speaker 2: this idea that if we respected ourselves, we wouldn't uh,

2057
01:46:22,200 --> 01:46:25,519
Speaker 2: you know, people would start respecting us to fuck you.

2058
01:46:25,600 --> 01:46:28,360
Speaker 2: That's not that's not true, right, And if like if

2059
01:46:28,439 --> 01:46:31,439
Speaker 2: Kendrick was on this podcast it said that, I say, no,

2060
01:46:31,560 --> 01:46:33,600
Speaker 2: that's not true. I disagree with that. So I'm not

2061
01:46:33,640 --> 01:46:37,400
Speaker 2: gonna fucking carry water for somebody that that would do

2062
01:46:37,439 --> 01:46:41,280
Speaker 2: something like that. You know. Still like that album, still

2063
01:46:41,280 --> 01:46:43,599
Speaker 2: looking forward to the next the next album, No bro,

2064
01:46:44,479 --> 01:46:46,320
Speaker 2: that I single be jamming to me, so.

2065
01:46:47,320 --> 01:46:48,320
Speaker 3: I will be rocking it.

2066
01:46:50,120 --> 01:46:52,000
Speaker 2: You know. The other thing that happens too, and this

2067
01:46:52,080 --> 01:46:55,080
Speaker 2: happens with Zealjah Banks too. I think a lot of

2068
01:46:55,080 --> 01:46:59,360
Speaker 2: these niggas is young. Yeah, you know, and this is

2069
01:46:59,439 --> 01:47:06,160
Speaker 2: like I think, because Kendrick presents such a complete mature

2070
01:47:06,640 --> 01:47:11,240
Speaker 2: image of himself on his album, He's still a twenty

2071
01:47:11,280 --> 01:47:15,200
Speaker 2: seven year old dude, and he gonna get some shit wrong.

2072
01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:19,639
Speaker 2: Everybody gets some shit, you know, I think Ezela Banks

2073
01:47:19,680 --> 01:47:22,439
Speaker 2: as much as people go in on her because she

2074
01:47:22,439 --> 01:47:26,920
Speaker 2: she'll tweet something that we all like, yes, speak on it,

2075
01:47:27,840 --> 01:47:31,599
Speaker 2: and then you look up a little bit later and

2076
01:47:31,720 --> 01:47:34,559
Speaker 2: she's like, anyway, these fag is out here, and you're like, ooh,

2077
01:47:35,280 --> 01:47:38,639
Speaker 2: she's only twenty three. She was born in nineteen ninety one.

2078
01:47:39,640 --> 01:47:44,040
Speaker 2: She doesn't remember Michael Jordan winning any championships. I okay, okay,

2079
01:47:44,600 --> 01:47:47,240
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So like, there's a measure

2080
01:47:47,360 --> 01:47:50,479
Speaker 2: of restraint that I have that I think comes from

2081
01:47:50,520 --> 01:47:52,439
Speaker 2: empathy that a lot of people don't have because they

2082
01:47:52,439 --> 01:47:55,679
Speaker 2: get so caught up in the hierarchy that these people

2083
01:47:55,720 --> 01:47:58,559
Speaker 2: are more important and better than us. And I don't

2084
01:47:58,600 --> 01:48:03,360
Speaker 2: believe that, No, nobody's just better than me that Speaking

2085
01:48:03,400 --> 01:48:09,719
Speaker 2: of people's opinions, there's a lady who's on Duck Dynasty,

2086
01:48:09,800 --> 01:48:17,600
Speaker 2: Lisa Robertson. She went on a TV show earlier this

2087
01:48:17,680 --> 01:48:21,479
Speaker 2: week and explained that she had an abortion on her

2088
01:48:21,520 --> 01:48:23,719
Speaker 2: post live. I mean, she explained she had an abortion

2089
01:48:23,760 --> 01:48:28,479
Speaker 2: when she was sixteen. Okay, she said it wasn't a

2090
01:48:28,560 --> 01:48:30,280
Speaker 2: choice that she would make again. She said, I would

2091
01:48:30,360 --> 01:48:32,280
Speaker 2: never say that that was a good choice. It was

2092
01:48:32,360 --> 01:48:34,439
Speaker 2: a choice I felt I had at the time. I

2093
01:48:34,479 --> 01:48:36,519
Speaker 2: don't believe I actually should have had that choice. As

2094
01:48:36,560 --> 01:48:40,559
Speaker 2: a Christian, I don't think we should do that, she said.

2095
01:48:40,680 --> 01:48:43,040
Speaker 2: You know, so that sounds like she said, nay, you know,

2096
01:48:43,080 --> 01:48:45,760
Speaker 2: I'm not really pro choice even though I made the

2097
01:48:45,800 --> 01:48:51,320
Speaker 2: decision for myself at the time. You know, I'm actually

2098
01:48:52,439 --> 01:48:55,920
Speaker 2: pro life quote unquote, you know, anti choice is all

2099
01:48:55,920 --> 01:49:02,160
Speaker 2: I like to call it. So she said that, and

2100
01:49:03,720 --> 01:49:07,840
Speaker 2: she said, I think she was actually asked more to

2101
01:49:07,920 --> 01:49:12,240
Speaker 2: The interviewer asked her more, and she said that she

2102
01:49:12,360 --> 01:49:14,679
Speaker 2: would say she was pro choice if that's your choice.

2103
01:49:14,720 --> 01:49:17,240
Speaker 2: She says, Now, I'm not gonna put my belief on you.

2104
01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:19,559
Speaker 2: If that's the way you feel, that's your choice. And

2105
01:49:19,600 --> 01:49:22,240
Speaker 2: so Nancy Red asked her, so what you can say

2106
01:49:22,240 --> 01:49:26,240
Speaker 2: yourself pro choice? She said, yes, I would. Fast forward

2107
01:49:26,280 --> 01:49:33,639
Speaker 2: two days later, she went on the Christian broadcasting network.

2108
01:49:33,280 --> 01:49:36,320
Speaker 5: The Attitude Chain, because they don't want to hear that bullshit.

2109
01:49:36,439 --> 01:49:40,280
Speaker 5: Every every life is precious, no matter how it's conceived.

2110
01:49:40,680 --> 01:49:44,680
Speaker 3: We don't care incense rap, we don't care how it's conceived.

2111
01:49:45,120 --> 01:49:49,840
Speaker 2: Right now, because I don't enjoy duck Dynasty, I don't

2112
01:49:49,840 --> 01:49:51,599
Speaker 2: really give a fuck one way or the other.

2113
01:49:51,800 --> 01:49:55,400
Speaker 3: But a woman owned the show, right. I thought I

2114
01:49:55,439 --> 01:49:57,600
Speaker 3: was just all eighty ye old men with beard with

2115
01:49:57,640 --> 01:49:58,320
Speaker 3: a lot of money.

2116
01:49:58,479 --> 01:50:00,800
Speaker 2: She said. Whenever we were talking to interview she was

2117
01:50:00,840 --> 01:50:03,599
Speaker 2: an interviewer. She was just saying, you know, your life

2118
01:50:03,600 --> 01:50:05,680
Speaker 2: has turned out great since you had an abortion. I mean,

2119
01:50:05,760 --> 01:50:08,360
Speaker 2: you got the man you always on it. And I said,

2120
01:50:08,400 --> 01:50:10,320
Speaker 2: but my life didn't turn out great. There's been many

2121
01:50:10,400 --> 01:50:13,640
Speaker 2: years since then. I've really struggled with this decision. I

2122
01:50:13,880 --> 01:50:16,360
Speaker 2: know that that decision is not the right decision. We

2123
01:50:16,400 --> 01:50:18,200
Speaker 2: do have a choice in this world whether or not

2124
01:50:18,800 --> 01:50:21,880
Speaker 2: we do that or not. But I am totally pro life.

2125
01:50:21,920 --> 01:50:24,639
Speaker 2: I'm pro god on pro babies. You know, the time

2126
01:50:24,680 --> 01:50:27,479
Speaker 2: of conception is when that life begins, and I believe

2127
01:50:27,479 --> 01:50:29,880
Speaker 2: we should honor that life. And so I just kind

2128
01:50:29,880 --> 01:50:31,719
Speaker 2: of got a little mixed up whenever we were talking.

2129
01:50:31,760 --> 01:50:34,120
Speaker 2: But I'm definitely pro life. But like I said, we

2130
01:50:34,200 --> 01:50:35,960
Speaker 2: all do have a choice as to whether or not

2131
01:50:36,040 --> 01:50:38,120
Speaker 2: we want to go there. And I want people to

2132
01:50:38,160 --> 01:50:41,679
Speaker 2: know that you can be forgiven whenever you're done those

2133
01:50:41,720 --> 01:50:46,479
Speaker 2: things in your past. So she fixed it, man, and

2134
01:50:46,520 --> 01:50:48,800
Speaker 2: that's you know, that's what gives me hope for Kendrick. Man.

2135
01:50:49,040 --> 01:50:51,400
Speaker 2: You know, if enough of you guys come down on

2136
01:50:51,479 --> 01:50:54,400
Speaker 2: him and are mean enough and say fucked up shit,

2137
01:50:54,520 --> 01:50:57,240
Speaker 2: maybe he'll hear, and then he'll go on television and

2138
01:50:57,400 --> 01:50:59,960
Speaker 2: live about his opinion so that he can sell more record.

2139
01:51:01,800 --> 01:51:05,880
Speaker 3: You ain't got a lot to be kenjick Uh.

2140
01:51:05,760 --> 01:51:08,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what you know. I think that's the world

2141
01:51:08,880 --> 01:51:12,160
Speaker 2: we're really getting towards, is where people aren't even gonna

2142
01:51:12,160 --> 01:51:14,840
Speaker 2: have understanding of everything. They're just gonna be like, what

2143
01:51:14,960 --> 01:51:16,879
Speaker 2: the fuck I gotta say to sell these records?

2144
01:51:16,880 --> 01:51:17,040
Speaker 5: Man?

2145
01:51:17,080 --> 01:51:19,240
Speaker 2: Because I mean really right.

2146
01:51:19,080 --> 01:51:21,000
Speaker 5: And you're gonna have Yeah, you're gonna have a lot

2147
01:51:21,040 --> 01:51:23,360
Speaker 5: more people being neutral. You're gonna have a lot more

2148
01:51:23,400 --> 01:51:25,040
Speaker 5: people are gonna ask them ship. They're gonna say, I

2149
01:51:25,040 --> 01:51:28,120
Speaker 5: don't have an opinion on it. Ain't No, don't got

2150
01:51:28,160 --> 01:51:30,240
Speaker 5: no fucking opinion. People gonna be mad because you don't

2151
01:51:30,280 --> 01:51:31,920
Speaker 5: have an opinion at all. But you give an opinion

2152
01:51:32,160 --> 01:51:33,280
Speaker 5: you when.

2153
01:51:33,160 --> 01:51:34,599
Speaker 3: It comes to this ship. People ask you this ship

2154
01:51:34,600 --> 01:51:36,479
Speaker 3: because people want to know, which I don't understand why

2155
01:51:36,479 --> 01:51:38,599
Speaker 3: people want to know. You're just about like YadA, YadA, YadA.

2156
01:51:38,640 --> 01:51:41,400
Speaker 3: You give an opinion. Fuck you, yay, you give an opinion?

2157
01:51:41,439 --> 01:51:42,000
Speaker 3: Fuck you.

2158
01:51:42,000 --> 01:51:44,080
Speaker 5: You ain't fro anopsis side. So it's like you cannot

2159
01:51:44,080 --> 01:51:45,680
Speaker 5: win no matter what. You just want to be an

2160
01:51:45,720 --> 01:51:47,040
Speaker 5: artist or whatever and sell your ship.

2161
01:51:47,120 --> 01:51:47,400
Speaker 3: You all.

2162
01:51:47,400 --> 01:51:50,800
Speaker 5: The other ship doesn't really matter to you, but to

2163
01:51:50,880 --> 01:51:53,240
Speaker 5: the general public it does for one reason or another.

2164
01:51:53,720 --> 01:51:57,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just funny, man, because like I wonder if

2165
01:51:57,280 --> 01:52:03,960
Speaker 2: he I wonder if she realized like I fucked up

2166
01:52:04,840 --> 01:52:08,720
Speaker 2: and I really was always pro life and I just

2167
01:52:08,800 --> 01:52:10,920
Speaker 2: fucked up in that one interview, or if it's really

2168
01:52:11,479 --> 01:52:14,920
Speaker 2: I'm kind of pro choice, but I got such a

2169
01:52:14,960 --> 01:52:18,240
Speaker 2: backlash to be a pro choice. I'm gonna go back

2170
01:52:18,280 --> 01:52:21,000
Speaker 2: to saying I'm pro life cause I think that I

2171
01:52:21,040 --> 01:52:23,880
Speaker 2: think the latter is probably was more likely. I think

2172
01:52:23,880 --> 01:52:28,080
Speaker 2: a lot of Republican women and conservative women, they basically

2173
01:52:28,160 --> 01:52:32,599
Speaker 2: carry water for these Republican men and some of the negative,

2174
01:52:32,680 --> 01:52:37,040
Speaker 2: terrible ideas about controlling the female body. And I think

2175
01:52:37,080 --> 01:52:44,200
Speaker 2: that in a lot of ways they really aren't pro life.

2176
01:52:44,280 --> 01:52:46,960
Speaker 2: They really do believe in choice. Who knows what they

2177
01:52:46,960 --> 01:52:49,200
Speaker 2: decide when they go in the voting booth, because that's

2178
01:52:49,240 --> 01:52:50,759
Speaker 2: between them and you know whatever.

2179
01:52:50,960 --> 01:52:55,000
Speaker 5: I think a large percentage of those people vote pro life,

2180
01:52:55,040 --> 01:52:57,800
Speaker 5: like when she comes up, because no matter how mad

2181
01:52:57,880 --> 01:53:01,280
Speaker 5: they get somebody on the other side, Like a lot

2182
01:53:01,280 --> 01:53:03,880
Speaker 5: of people vote for this ship. So because he can't

2183
01:53:03,880 --> 01:53:05,840
Speaker 5: be in there and watch your ass vote, you're like, oh,

2184
01:53:05,960 --> 01:53:06,920
Speaker 5: fuck you, nigga.

2185
01:53:06,720 --> 01:53:09,639
Speaker 3: Click on, you ain't running my pussy right.

2186
01:53:10,040 --> 01:53:12,599
Speaker 2: So I think a lot of times these people basically go,

2187
01:53:14,560 --> 01:53:17,400
Speaker 2: what's the best thing to say at the time, you know,

2188
01:53:18,040 --> 01:53:19,960
Speaker 2: And I think a lot of these stars that do

2189
01:53:20,000 --> 01:53:21,880
Speaker 2: all this promotion and shit, they're just doing what they

2190
01:53:21,880 --> 01:53:24,960
Speaker 2: think is the best thing to do at the time. Anyway,

2191
01:53:25,080 --> 01:53:29,640
Speaker 2: speaking of witch Kaylee Cuckole or how have you pronounce it,

2192
01:53:30,320 --> 01:53:33,080
Speaker 2: Remember we talked about her last week when when they

2193
01:53:33,280 --> 01:53:35,760
Speaker 2: had the headline I'm not a I'm not a feminist

2194
01:53:35,760 --> 01:53:39,479
Speaker 2: and everybody's like, what bitch, and they went in, Well,

2195
01:53:39,520 --> 01:53:41,760
Speaker 2: she won an award at an award show, and she

2196
01:53:41,800 --> 01:53:44,320
Speaker 2: forgot to thank her husband, who she loves.

2197
01:53:44,120 --> 01:53:49,599
Speaker 5: Serving mm hmm, Like men don't get up there, go

2198
01:53:49,680 --> 01:53:51,719
Speaker 5: through a whole speech and sometimes forget about.

2199
01:53:52,479 --> 01:53:55,800
Speaker 2: Her ex boyfriend and co star John Glecki decided to

2200
01:53:55,800 --> 01:53:57,479
Speaker 2: step in and help her out later in the show.

2201
01:53:58,160 --> 01:54:00,479
Speaker 2: Hey wow, thank you so much. Hey, just quick, I

2202
01:54:00,600 --> 01:54:02,600
Speaker 2: like to take a brief moment because Kaylee forgot to

2203
01:54:02,920 --> 01:54:06,880
Speaker 2: during her speech to thank her husband, Ryan Glecki said

2204
01:54:06,880 --> 01:54:09,160
Speaker 2: while accepting the people's choice of War for Favorite Network

2205
01:54:09,200 --> 01:54:12,160
Speaker 2: TV comedy with the Big Bang Theory cast. You are

2206
01:54:12,200 --> 01:54:14,720
Speaker 2: my heart and I can't imagine where I'll be without you,

2207
01:54:14,840 --> 01:54:18,760
Speaker 2: Golucky joked. But last it wasn't It would not be

2208
01:54:18,800 --> 01:54:21,880
Speaker 2: the only time that evening she forgot her beloved uh

2209
01:54:21,960 --> 01:54:26,880
Speaker 2: Coco later. Kuko later thanked Glcki but not her husband,

2210
01:54:26,880 --> 01:54:32,960
Speaker 2: in an Instagram message about thanking her husband. So just

2211
01:54:33,000 --> 01:54:36,760
Speaker 2: watching her, Yeah, I mean it's just funny, you know that.

2212
01:54:36,960 --> 01:54:37,080
Speaker 5: Uh?

2213
01:54:38,960 --> 01:54:41,000
Speaker 2: I just you know, I think people painting her is

2214
01:54:41,000 --> 01:54:44,000
Speaker 2: one way. But you know, she just she won an

2215
01:54:44,000 --> 01:54:46,480
Speaker 2: award for herself. She did she have to thank of

2216
01:54:46,520 --> 01:54:49,600
Speaker 2: her husband. Game of Thrones set to return April to

2217
01:54:49,600 --> 01:54:57,360
Speaker 2: twelve on HBO. Can't wait. Cannot wait actually turned HBO

2218
01:54:57,480 --> 01:55:00,440
Speaker 2: off because I don't give a fuck till it comes back, right.

2219
01:55:00,840 --> 01:55:04,240
Speaker 2: I don't care about the y HD. I already seen it.

2220
01:55:04,840 --> 01:55:09,480
Speaker 2: I remember what happened. I don't care about girls fell off.

2221
01:55:10,760 --> 01:55:12,400
Speaker 2: Don't even remember how the last season ended.

2222
01:55:12,800 --> 01:55:13,800
Speaker 3: Oh you needn't watch it.

2223
01:55:14,080 --> 01:55:16,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I tried and it wasn't even on some like

2224
01:55:16,360 --> 01:55:18,920
Speaker 2: I'm disgusted with Leana dunnaugh. It just the show not good.

2225
01:55:19,640 --> 01:55:21,480
Speaker 2: It kept falling off and getting worse until that point

2226
01:55:21,520 --> 01:55:24,280
Speaker 2: where I was like, I can't finish this bullshit. I

2227
01:55:24,280 --> 01:55:26,080
Speaker 2: still don't think I saw the last episode of the

2228
01:55:26,160 --> 01:55:28,320
Speaker 2: last season because it was hard to find it on demand.

2229
01:55:28,960 --> 01:55:30,040
Speaker 2: So I was just like, fuck it.

2230
01:55:31,080 --> 01:55:33,880
Speaker 3: Well you better than me. I'm glad my trays rubbing

2231
01:55:33,880 --> 01:55:36,080
Speaker 3: off on you, sir, because you know me, I'm fucking

2232
01:55:36,120 --> 01:55:38,200
Speaker 3: in the hard beating gone something else. I ain't got

2233
01:55:38,200 --> 01:55:39,320
Speaker 3: to watch everything.

2234
01:55:39,440 --> 01:55:42,280
Speaker 2: Yep, So I moved on.

2235
01:55:43,200 --> 01:55:45,920
Speaker 5: So for you, good for you, Like like, this is

2236
01:55:46,000 --> 01:55:49,760
Speaker 5: this is a growing wow. Do you y'all don't understand?

2237
01:55:49,800 --> 01:55:50,160
Speaker 3: This is?

2238
01:55:50,320 --> 01:55:54,600
Speaker 5: This is like a big leaps and bounds. Because Roger

2239
01:55:54,720 --> 01:55:55,560
Speaker 5: watching ship, I.

2240
01:55:55,520 --> 01:55:57,680
Speaker 3: Gotta watch it. I was like, this, shiit suck. I

2241
01:55:57,680 --> 01:55:58,240
Speaker 3: don't care.

2242
01:55:58,400 --> 01:56:00,880
Speaker 5: I'm gonna force myself to watch watch it and read

2243
01:56:00,920 --> 01:56:04,120
Speaker 5: it or see it to the end. And I'm like, wow,

2244
01:56:04,240 --> 01:56:06,440
Speaker 5: you look like you're going through so much pain. You're like,

2245
01:56:06,480 --> 01:56:08,560
Speaker 5: fuck it. Oh, I'm gonna watch it to the end.

2246
01:56:08,560 --> 01:56:10,400
Speaker 5: So I gotta say, Cooleert, I'm proud of you.

2247
01:56:10,680 --> 01:56:13,120
Speaker 2: Well, thank you. And it just happened because the show

2248
01:56:13,160 --> 01:56:15,760
Speaker 2: wasn't good, like it didn't even have to take a

2249
01:56:15,880 --> 01:56:18,600
Speaker 2: bad interview or whatever it is that it takes for

2250
01:56:18,680 --> 01:56:22,480
Speaker 2: normal people to stop listening to ship. I was just like, nope,

2251
01:56:23,160 --> 01:56:24,440
Speaker 2: that's enough, all right.

2252
01:56:24,560 --> 01:56:27,400
Speaker 5: I'm real quick to say nope, Well, happy birthday to me,

2253
01:56:27,440 --> 01:56:30,160
Speaker 5: because that's right after my birthday, April April is gonna

2254
01:56:30,160 --> 01:56:31,200
Speaker 5: be on and popping.

2255
01:56:31,600 --> 01:56:34,840
Speaker 2: Yep. All right, man, let's get into uh, into our

2256
01:56:35,440 --> 01:56:40,320
Speaker 2: segments real quick. Uh, the first of which, of course

2257
01:56:41,320 --> 01:56:55,480
Speaker 2: follow alert. You know I'm looking, I'm talking. You look

2258
01:56:55,600 --> 01:57:13,840
Speaker 2: like you just jumped out calls. We don't call him that,

2259
01:57:14,000 --> 01:57:15,440
Speaker 2: no more or nothing. We call him.

2260
01:57:15,320 --> 01:57:19,520
Speaker 12: Five star, five stars, A five star, that's a six

2261
01:57:19,640 --> 01:57:23,120
Speaker 12: for the time, just that new up here, give a

2262
01:57:23,240 --> 01:57:25,680
Speaker 12: half fit. This might even play alright, and no way

2263
01:57:25,760 --> 01:57:29,160
Speaker 12: she give it to me ever, spend like I can't

2264
01:57:29,200 --> 01:57:33,200
Speaker 12: even lie, so super do not either. We'll not keep

2265
01:57:33,280 --> 01:57:37,000
Speaker 12: up unless you you're not you'll.

2266
01:57:36,760 --> 01:57:42,000
Speaker 2: Matter has a strong Since she's all right here, yes,

2267
01:57:42,080 --> 01:57:42,800
Speaker 2: can I.

2268
01:57:42,880 --> 01:57:43,320
Speaker 3: Better say it?

2269
01:57:43,320 --> 01:57:45,400
Speaker 5: Tell Chap he's going to go through the numbers, so

2270
01:57:45,480 --> 01:57:47,280
Speaker 5: let him go through notes for you gotta start guessing.

2271
01:57:47,360 --> 01:57:51,640
Speaker 5: Go ahead, all right, he's got a gas pick a number.

2272
01:57:52,680 --> 01:57:57,360
Speaker 2: I'll just do the first. Let's see how may that's

2273
01:57:57,400 --> 01:57:58,560
Speaker 2: too many, so we'll just try.

2274
01:57:58,440 --> 01:58:00,120
Speaker 3: To do like fine, Okay, that's the first five.

2275
01:58:00,240 --> 01:58:04,560
Speaker 2: All right, don't forget to pack your whole bag. That's

2276
01:58:04,680 --> 01:58:09,280
Speaker 2: number one, Baller mail, dear b A, Me and my

2277
01:58:09,400 --> 01:58:15,360
Speaker 2: friend hit the sugar Daddy jackpot. Now what group of tails?

2278
01:58:16,080 --> 01:58:21,200
Speaker 2: My night with comedian Corey Holcom. That's number three. Of course,

2279
01:58:21,240 --> 01:58:25,920
Speaker 2: the daddy jackpot was number two. Number four Kylie Jenner

2280
01:58:26,000 --> 01:58:28,640
Speaker 2: on plastic surgery rumors, I grew up, My face is

2281
01:58:28,680 --> 01:58:34,560
Speaker 2: going to be different. Oh, and number five ball hoarific relationships?

2282
01:58:34,560 --> 01:58:37,160
Speaker 2: Do I really want to date a baller? By Queen Ivanya?

2283
01:58:37,880 --> 01:58:39,120
Speaker 2: Y'all go between those five?

2284
01:58:39,680 --> 01:58:41,320
Speaker 3: Yep, y'all go with this one through five.

2285
01:58:52,160 --> 01:58:56,240
Speaker 2: Like we got a lot of twos and ones, A

2286
01:58:56,320 --> 01:58:59,800
Speaker 2: lot of twos and ones. You keeping tally of this?

2287
01:59:00,240 --> 01:59:09,200
Speaker 2: M M all right, m hmm, all right. I looked

2288
01:59:09,240 --> 01:59:12,320
Speaker 2: like one is winning number one. Sounds like everybody's worried

2289
01:59:12,320 --> 01:59:15,240
Speaker 2: about the whole bag. All right, Well we'll go to

2290
01:59:15,280 --> 01:59:19,240
Speaker 2: the whole bag. One. I gotta say, I was uh

2291
01:59:20,160 --> 01:59:25,160
Speaker 2: a little surprised by that choice. Let's see. Uh but uh,

2292
01:59:25,200 --> 01:59:27,160
Speaker 2: we got a good amount of comments, so let's do it.

2293
01:59:28,280 --> 01:59:28,400
Speaker 9: Uh.

2294
01:59:28,760 --> 01:59:32,080
Speaker 2: I was having this conversation with someone today. When this

2295
01:59:32,200 --> 01:59:35,840
Speaker 2: word came up, I hadn't used it since NBA All

2296
01:59:35,840 --> 01:59:39,000
Speaker 2: Star Weekend of last year. I thought I put it

2297
01:59:39,040 --> 01:59:43,080
Speaker 2: to use today. The word is ho bag now. I

2298
01:59:43,120 --> 01:59:45,800
Speaker 2: expect the articles to really get popping because NBA All

2299
01:59:45,800 --> 01:59:50,000
Speaker 2: Star Weekend coming up. What is a ho bag? Ho

2300
01:59:50,240 --> 01:59:56,880
Speaker 2: bag now a portable container of respectable wait or receptacle

2301
01:59:57,120 --> 01:59:59,959
Speaker 2: for carrying articles to be used in cases of unplanned

2302
02:00:00,400 --> 02:00:04,600
Speaker 2: or surprise sexual excursions. Let's use hoe bag in a sentence.

2303
02:00:05,160 --> 02:00:08,040
Speaker 2: The Giants and Patriots are going to be in town tonight.

2304
02:00:08,520 --> 02:00:10,920
Speaker 2: Let me pack my whole bag in case I can't

2305
02:00:10,920 --> 02:00:14,320
Speaker 2: make it home tonight. Have you ever been in a

2306
02:00:14,360 --> 02:00:16,120
Speaker 2: situation where you meet a guy at the club. He's

2307
02:00:16,160 --> 02:00:18,440
Speaker 2: looking good, saying all the right things. You feel like

2308
02:00:18,560 --> 02:00:21,160
Speaker 2: just being free for the night and having a one

2309
02:00:21,240 --> 02:00:24,520
Speaker 2: night stand. We've all been there before. Well, what do

2310
02:00:24,560 --> 02:00:26,720
Speaker 2: you do when you're not prepared? No one wants to

2311
02:00:26,760 --> 02:00:29,240
Speaker 2: take the walk of shame in the same clothes you

2312
02:00:29,360 --> 02:00:33,080
Speaker 2: came in last night. Well, that is exactly what a

2313
02:00:33,120 --> 02:00:37,000
Speaker 2: whole bag is. Think of it as a whole shit

2314
02:00:37,240 --> 02:00:43,600
Speaker 2: survival kit. What's in a whole bag? The contents of

2315
02:00:43,600 --> 02:00:47,360
Speaker 2: a whole bag include but I know aval kit. Oh

2316
02:00:47,480 --> 02:00:51,480
Speaker 2: you think that's what it means? Okay, what's in a

2317
02:00:51,520 --> 02:00:55,440
Speaker 2: whole bag? The contents of a whole bag include, but

2318
02:00:55,520 --> 02:00:59,600
Speaker 2: are not limited to, a change of clothes, two frush,

2319
02:00:59,640 --> 02:01:03,960
Speaker 2: slash to paste, a prepaid phone, some form of identification

2320
02:01:04,640 --> 02:01:06,720
Speaker 2: just in case some crazy person tries to kidnap you

2321
02:01:06,760 --> 02:01:08,840
Speaker 2: and all the police find it your whole bag. This

2322
02:01:08,920 --> 02:01:12,840
Speaker 2: is the worst case scenario. Of course, towels who cares

2323
02:01:12,880 --> 02:01:17,120
Speaker 2: what you do with them? Be creative condoms. Safe sex

2324
02:01:17,200 --> 02:01:22,160
Speaker 2: is great, sex, cab fair mint, gum, breath mints will

2325
02:01:22,200 --> 02:01:29,440
Speaker 2: also suffice, flats, shoes, deodorant, liquid body soap, snacks if

2326
02:01:29,480 --> 02:01:33,880
Speaker 2: your blood sugar is low, extra pennies if you wear those,

2327
02:01:35,440 --> 02:01:39,520
Speaker 2: make up, a digital camera if you're nasty. Hold on.

2328
02:01:40,680 --> 02:01:42,920
Speaker 3: But it's not limited to this, y'all. It's not limited.

2329
02:01:43,000 --> 02:01:44,680
Speaker 3: You know. You can you can.

2330
02:01:45,160 --> 02:01:49,040
Speaker 2: Switch, Yeah, improvise, add more, you know, customize your whole

2331
02:01:49,040 --> 02:01:51,960
Speaker 2: bag to your own tastes. I noticed you didn't have

2332
02:01:51,960 --> 02:01:54,400
Speaker 2: anything about head wrapping, now you know, right like that?

2333
02:01:54,480 --> 02:01:55,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, switch your hair out.

2334
02:01:56,480 --> 02:01:58,240
Speaker 2: What you need to know about a whole bag. Whole

2335
02:01:58,320 --> 02:02:02,000
Speaker 2: bass can be paper or plastic, swayed people who use

2336
02:02:02,040 --> 02:02:05,000
Speaker 2: that HO bags more than others tend to have fancier ones.

2337
02:02:05,320 --> 02:02:07,440
Speaker 2: If you have if your whole bag is Louis Vuitton,

2338
02:02:07,600 --> 02:02:11,520
Speaker 2: you have a problem that should consider counseling. A whole

2339
02:02:11,560 --> 02:02:14,240
Speaker 2: bags should not be confused with an overnight bag. Overnight

2340
02:02:14,280 --> 02:02:16,920
Speaker 2: bags are usually for playing stays away from home. HO

2341
02:02:17,120 --> 02:02:20,840
Speaker 2: bags are spontaneous on nights when there's no sex to

2342
02:02:20,880 --> 02:02:22,680
Speaker 2: be had. HO bags can be found in the trunk

2343
02:02:22,720 --> 02:02:25,680
Speaker 2: of your car. HO bags should never leave the trunk

2344
02:02:25,680 --> 02:02:27,560
Speaker 2: of your car unless you are planning on not taking

2345
02:02:27,600 --> 02:02:29,680
Speaker 2: your car to the club that night. Once you see

2346
02:02:29,680 --> 02:02:32,000
Speaker 2: how important HO bags are, you'll never understand how you

2347
02:02:32,040 --> 02:02:36,040
Speaker 2: live without one. Never, under any circumstances, let anyone borrow

2348
02:02:36,120 --> 02:02:38,440
Speaker 2: anything in your whole bag. That's just nasty. No one

2349
02:02:38,520 --> 02:02:46,280
Speaker 2: likes a nasty hoe. We got comments ready to settle down,

2350
02:02:46,400 --> 02:02:49,640
Speaker 2: says Hi. I often use that word. We're referring to

2351
02:02:49,640 --> 02:02:51,040
Speaker 2: a real to a real woman.

2352
02:02:51,640 --> 02:02:51,680
Speaker 5: Ho.

2353
02:02:52,440 --> 02:02:54,760
Speaker 2: So I guess when I see girls in the club

2354
02:02:54,800 --> 02:02:57,560
Speaker 2: with huge persons, I would always think, gone, girl itchy,

2355
02:02:57,800 --> 02:03:02,240
Speaker 2: that itch bay is ready, because you know, sometimes you

2356
02:03:02,360 --> 02:03:04,360
Speaker 2: roll to the club with your girl and if you

2357
02:03:04,440 --> 02:03:06,640
Speaker 2: leave with the ninja, you gotta be ready lab my

2358
02:03:06,680 --> 02:03:10,320
Speaker 2: ass off. Golden Child says, laugh my ass off. I

2359
02:03:10,320 --> 02:03:12,600
Speaker 2: had to pack a few of these few nights I

2360
02:03:12,680 --> 02:03:15,520
Speaker 2: was in atl for Hip Hop Weekend. If you don't

2361
02:03:15,520 --> 02:03:19,000
Speaker 2: have a whole bag, you're sleeping for real. University of

2362
02:03:19,080 --> 02:03:23,320
Speaker 2: Smity just came in to say, Lol, love me, Long

2363
02:03:23,480 --> 02:03:26,480
Speaker 2: Time says, laughing my ass off. Maybe I need this.

2364
02:03:27,080 --> 02:03:28,800
Speaker 2: Do we still call it a whole bag if it's

2365
02:03:28,800 --> 02:03:32,800
Speaker 2: an unplaying rendezvous with your ex? Miss Ashley Bank says,

2366
02:03:32,920 --> 02:03:36,200
Speaker 2: laughing my ass off. I keep a gym bag in

2367
02:03:36,240 --> 02:03:39,640
Speaker 2: my trunk when I'm stressed out, I go walking after work.

2368
02:03:40,160 --> 02:03:43,480
Speaker 2: This has something. This has sometimes been used at the Hiccup,

2369
02:03:43,880 --> 02:03:48,280
Speaker 2: So it would be a part time whole bag. Part time, yeah,

2370
02:03:48,320 --> 02:03:51,000
Speaker 2: because you keep the changing clothes and hair products and

2371
02:03:51,000 --> 02:03:52,520
Speaker 2: all that stuff, because you know when you go to

2372
02:03:52,560 --> 02:03:56,040
Speaker 2: the gym right, like shower right. So she sometimes it's

2373
02:03:56,040 --> 02:03:59,880
Speaker 2: a whole bag, sometimes it's not. Yet, Just Me says yes,

2374
02:04:00,040 --> 02:04:04,160
Speaker 2: Miss Dnbay, I think it was cast that said that. Okay.

2375
02:04:05,000 --> 02:04:07,240
Speaker 2: Just Me also says I always thought a whole bag

2376
02:04:07,320 --> 02:04:10,200
Speaker 2: was just another name for hope, or like, oh girl,

2377
02:04:10,240 --> 02:04:11,040
Speaker 2: you a whole bag?

2378
02:04:11,280 --> 02:04:11,760
Speaker 3: Okay?

2379
02:04:12,480 --> 02:04:18,280
Speaker 2: Dosha? My love says Wow, funny shit uh Ali in

2380
02:04:18,440 --> 02:04:21,120
Speaker 2: Wonderland says, what's funny is that I keep a whole

2381
02:04:21,160 --> 02:04:25,880
Speaker 2: bag in my car at all times seven points. Although

2382
02:04:25,920 --> 02:04:29,040
Speaker 2: I won't be in Indy, my whole bag comes in handy,

2383
02:04:29,080 --> 02:04:31,000
Speaker 2: and we'll come in handy for the c I Double A.

2384
02:04:31,840 --> 02:04:33,960
Speaker 3: Oh she was in shod I guess it.

2385
02:04:34,040 --> 02:04:35,919
Speaker 2: Do we bothers at the c I Double A? Possibly

2386
02:04:35,920 --> 02:04:39,240
Speaker 2: some rappers and entertainers and ship. I know she's not

2387
02:04:39,320 --> 02:04:42,240
Speaker 2: sleeping with the players. I hope they're not. They're not age.

2388
02:04:43,000 --> 02:04:45,720
Speaker 2: Uh No, they of age. The Double A is college.

2389
02:04:45,760 --> 02:04:48,760
Speaker 2: They're just not paid. Damn, wish I was going, said

2390
02:04:48,840 --> 02:04:52,680
Speaker 2: lovely me. Let's see the rest of the comments. Give

2391
02:04:52,760 --> 02:04:57,040
Speaker 2: a second. Beloved Phoenix says, laugh my ass. I'll talk

2392
02:04:57,080 --> 02:05:00,520
Speaker 2: about my whole bag on Twitter all the time. Love it.

2393
02:05:01,800 --> 02:05:04,800
Speaker 2: Spencer says, christ I must be approved, never even heard,

2394
02:05:04,840 --> 02:05:09,320
Speaker 2: therefore learning something new every day. Thanks. Sandy Cheek says,

2395
02:05:09,440 --> 02:05:10,680
Speaker 2: no comments.

2396
02:05:10,360 --> 02:05:10,720
Speaker 8: Lo o l.

2397
02:05:12,680 --> 02:05:15,720
Speaker 2: No, Sandy Cheek got a whole bag. Imprit So Divine

2398
02:05:15,800 --> 02:05:18,760
Speaker 2: says I don't have one of those these, but I've managed.

2399
02:05:19,480 --> 02:05:22,440
Speaker 2: But I imagine that you also need some perfume, aspen

2400
02:05:22,480 --> 02:05:25,440
Speaker 2: and sunglasses. You don't want people recognizing you on your

2401
02:05:25,440 --> 02:05:28,000
Speaker 2: way out of his place, slash hotel room. Oh she

2402
02:05:28,080 --> 02:05:31,560
Speaker 2: got one. She lied trying to be above it. She

2403
02:05:31,680 --> 02:05:35,800
Speaker 2: used all those that's what her bag. Nicole says. Lol.

2404
02:05:35,840 --> 02:05:39,360
Speaker 2: I can't dead at the phone though, so Lussier says, Lol.

2405
02:05:39,440 --> 02:05:43,400
Speaker 2: Too funny, but great information. Definitely believe in being prepared.

2406
02:05:44,320 --> 02:05:48,000
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. The whole bag. I don't know what I

2407
02:05:48,040 --> 02:05:51,440
Speaker 2: would put in my whole bag. But that's ball of

2408
02:05:51,560 --> 02:05:52,040
Speaker 2: up for the day.

2409
02:05:52,080 --> 02:05:59,720
Speaker 3: Guys, go.

2410
02:06:01,560 --> 02:06:05,640
Speaker 2: Fast stop, just a fastop, just a fast up. Ben,

2411
02:06:05,880 --> 02:06:13,600
Speaker 2: that's a fastop doing something fatty.

2412
02:06:13,720 --> 02:06:19,120
Speaker 11: You will pastop you fast up, you fastop, you fast

2413
02:06:19,240 --> 02:06:25,640
Speaker 11: up fastop, the fastop, fasttop, fastop.

2414
02:06:27,440 --> 02:06:28,240
Speaker 2: Got it all right?

2415
02:06:28,480 --> 02:06:31,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was just for for females. I wonder what

2416
02:06:31,160 --> 02:06:36,120
Speaker 5: what males keep in their bag? Shaving green Uh, razors.

2417
02:06:36,840 --> 02:06:40,880
Speaker 2: Na, na razors. That's too that's too nah, that's too much,

2418
02:06:42,040 --> 02:06:45,000
Speaker 2: because you know that's a process that you want to

2419
02:06:45,040 --> 02:06:47,360
Speaker 2: be in a comfortable place and go through a whole

2420
02:06:47,960 --> 02:06:50,720
Speaker 2: Your ritual was shaving, like part of shaving. That's cool,

2421
02:06:50,840 --> 02:06:54,640
Speaker 2: is the ritual of it. So I don't think that

2422
02:06:54,960 --> 02:06:57,880
Speaker 2: a razor will be in your whole act necessarily.

2423
02:06:57,880 --> 02:06:58,680
Speaker 3: Change the boxes.

2424
02:06:59,080 --> 02:07:03,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you definite wanna bring some drawers, right, You're definitely

2425
02:07:04,000 --> 02:07:07,920
Speaker 2: gonna bring a couple of extra shirts, condoms as they

2426
02:07:08,000 --> 02:07:12,720
Speaker 2: brit earlier. As it said earlier, I mean you might

2427
02:07:12,840 --> 02:07:18,760
Speaker 2: wanna have You might want to have a phone that

2428
02:07:18,920 --> 02:07:20,920
Speaker 2: you can give her the number two that's not your

2429
02:07:21,000 --> 02:07:24,320
Speaker 2: real phone, so you can disappear, you know, fake I

2430
02:07:24,440 --> 02:07:29,280
Speaker 2: d you know, thinking stuff like that. So yeah, I

2431
02:07:29,480 --> 02:07:33,240
Speaker 2: can definitely see that. But I mean, you know, uh,

2432
02:07:35,280 --> 02:07:38,360
Speaker 2: if Bill Cosey might want to have some pills, you know,

2433
02:07:39,880 --> 02:07:43,400
Speaker 2: something to get her in the mood. Yeah, you definitely

2434
02:07:43,400 --> 02:07:46,240
Speaker 2: want baby baby. I was surprised that women didn't have

2435
02:07:46,320 --> 02:07:50,240
Speaker 2: baby whites in theirs. But yeah, you know, maybe maybe

2436
02:07:50,280 --> 02:07:54,920
Speaker 2: a sweat towel, you know, some brother sweat All right, Uh,

2437
02:07:55,920 --> 02:07:59,920
Speaker 2: let's get into our other segment. And before we even

2438
02:08:00,040 --> 02:08:03,040
Speaker 2: play the music, let me just tell you guys, for

2439
02:08:03,520 --> 02:08:06,640
Speaker 2: this this guest the race is actually sponsored. Oh shit,

2440
02:08:06,760 --> 02:08:08,800
Speaker 2: remember I told you, Karen. I'll be talking about it later.

2441
02:08:09,960 --> 02:08:14,160
Speaker 2: This is sponsored by Bevil. Get clearer, smoother skin with Bevel.

2442
02:08:15,520 --> 02:08:19,320
Speaker 2: Who doesn't want that? A lot of black people we have,

2443
02:08:20,240 --> 02:08:24,000
Speaker 2: you know, black men, and we shave, we get razor bombs.

2444
02:08:24,400 --> 02:08:26,200
Speaker 2: One of the reasons that we get razor bombs is

2445
02:08:26,280 --> 02:08:30,360
Speaker 2: because razors, for the most part, have seventy five blades,

2446
02:08:30,400 --> 02:08:32,879
Speaker 2: and they're designed to cut below.

2447
02:08:32,200 --> 02:08:35,240
Speaker 3: The skin, right, straight hair, not curly.

2448
02:08:35,040 --> 02:08:39,080
Speaker 2: Hair exactly exactly. So what happens with a lot of

2449
02:08:39,160 --> 02:08:41,880
Speaker 2: this stuff is it cuts me low the skin. You

2450
02:08:41,960 --> 02:08:44,840
Speaker 2: get ingrown hairs, you get these nasty, ugly, funky looking

2451
02:08:44,920 --> 02:08:49,720
Speaker 2: razor bombs. Yes, they're irritating, they hurt. One of the

2452
02:08:49,760 --> 02:08:52,440
Speaker 2: reasons I was glad could grow out my beard was

2453
02:08:52,560 --> 02:08:54,040
Speaker 2: the fact that I would no longer have to deal

2454
02:08:54,080 --> 02:08:57,720
Speaker 2: with that irritation. Now since going out of my beard,

2455
02:08:57,840 --> 02:09:02,880
Speaker 2: I just don't really shave anymore. Like I'll you know,

2456
02:09:03,160 --> 02:09:06,360
Speaker 2: trim it up with like a tremor or something electronic things.

2457
02:09:06,400 --> 02:09:09,000
Speaker 2: But those things can pull your hair, they can like,

2458
02:09:09,680 --> 02:09:13,120
Speaker 2: you know, like they can also irritate the skin. Sometimes

2459
02:09:13,120 --> 02:09:17,080
Speaker 2: they can cut and load the skin. So it definitely,

2460
02:09:18,680 --> 02:09:22,720
Speaker 2: you know, it definitely hurts the skin. And black people

2461
02:09:22,720 --> 02:09:26,720
Speaker 2: are pretty much an afterthought when it comes to shaving products.

2462
02:09:26,800 --> 02:09:30,440
Speaker 2: You know, you get Gillette, but it's the seventy five

2463
02:09:30,560 --> 02:09:36,920
Speaker 2: cuple older skin blades, and then it's the the the

2464
02:09:37,040 --> 02:09:39,880
Speaker 2: more the the shaving creams that they have. You just

2465
02:09:39,920 --> 02:09:42,080
Speaker 2: gotta basically get the purple stuff I think all the

2466
02:09:42,120 --> 02:09:45,880
Speaker 2: black people know, which is like extra super sensitive skin,

2467
02:09:45,960 --> 02:09:48,920
Speaker 2: which means black skin. And it's still not enough. And

2468
02:09:49,000 --> 02:09:51,320
Speaker 2: then after all that shit I would have to take

2469
02:09:52,720 --> 02:09:57,320
Speaker 2: like I would have to like take oxy pad, like

2470
02:09:57,440 --> 02:10:01,000
Speaker 2: the oxy pads and poor I actually would pour rubbing

2471
02:10:01,040 --> 02:10:04,560
Speaker 2: alcohol into my oxypad, shake it up and then take

2472
02:10:04,800 --> 02:10:07,000
Speaker 2: eat a pad and use it after I did that

2473
02:10:07,040 --> 02:10:09,560
Speaker 2: stuff to my face by shaving, because it was fucking

2474
02:10:09,600 --> 02:10:12,640
Speaker 2: cutting my skin up and making it like just ugly

2475
02:10:12,880 --> 02:10:16,320
Speaker 2: and giving it like these ingrown hairs and pimples and

2476
02:10:16,360 --> 02:10:18,960
Speaker 2: shit like that, and it's irritating. You deal with it

2477
02:10:19,080 --> 02:10:21,920
Speaker 2: all day and it fucking hurts and it sucks, you know, right,

2478
02:10:22,080 --> 02:10:23,120
Speaker 2: or either go like.

2479
02:10:23,200 --> 02:10:24,480
Speaker 3: My uncles with the old school.

2480
02:10:24,800 --> 02:10:26,760
Speaker 5: I don't want to say it's called magic hat. It's

2481
02:10:26,800 --> 02:10:29,120
Speaker 5: like this paddle solution that you put together and you

2482
02:10:29,240 --> 02:10:31,520
Speaker 5: turn into a paste. And my uncles would like put

2483
02:10:31,560 --> 02:10:33,160
Speaker 5: it on their face and it like girls like a

2484
02:10:33,280 --> 02:10:36,080
Speaker 5: hard clay, almost like a mask, and they would wipe

2485
02:10:36,120 --> 02:10:38,280
Speaker 5: it off like there and when you wipe it off,

2486
02:10:38,320 --> 02:10:40,560
Speaker 5: it lately wipe the hairway to stop the shaving.

2487
02:10:40,640 --> 02:10:42,760
Speaker 3: But who wants to go through that bullshit, right, And

2488
02:10:42,840 --> 02:10:43,120
Speaker 3: if you.

2489
02:10:43,160 --> 02:10:45,200
Speaker 2: Have like a beard like I do, I don't want

2490
02:10:45,200 --> 02:10:47,920
Speaker 2: to shave my whole beard off. So I'm not putting

2491
02:10:48,000 --> 02:10:50,280
Speaker 2: that shit on my face and making my fucking beard

2492
02:10:50,360 --> 02:10:53,280
Speaker 2: fall out. I need a razor, you know what I mean.

2493
02:10:53,520 --> 02:10:56,240
Speaker 2: But that's what I'm saying is without even thinking about it,

2494
02:10:56,640 --> 02:11:00,320
Speaker 2: before it Bebo sponsored anything, I had stopped shaving all

2495
02:11:00,360 --> 02:11:02,360
Speaker 2: together because I was just like, I would rather let

2496
02:11:02,400 --> 02:11:05,400
Speaker 2: my beard grow. Maybe I'll run the tremor over this shit.

2497
02:11:05,600 --> 02:11:07,920
Speaker 2: It won't really shave it down, but it's better than

2498
02:11:08,640 --> 02:11:11,880
Speaker 2: dealing with my face itching off fucking day and you know,

2499
02:11:12,200 --> 02:11:14,240
Speaker 2: dreading shaven. You know, I got to the point where

2500
02:11:14,320 --> 02:11:16,400
Speaker 2: when I was working, I was shaving like maybe once

2501
02:11:16,440 --> 02:11:19,400
Speaker 2: a week because it was just like I didn't want

2502
02:11:19,440 --> 02:11:22,120
Speaker 2: to have to shave. It's gonna suck, you know. So

2503
02:11:23,640 --> 02:11:28,560
Speaker 2: Bebel has designed a razor for you know, black people,

2504
02:11:29,040 --> 02:11:31,560
Speaker 2: for you know, like go ahead, cats.

2505
02:11:31,440 --> 02:11:33,400
Speaker 3: I'm gon say yeah and know like that it's designed

2506
02:11:33,440 --> 02:11:34,600
Speaker 3: for people with coarse hair.

2507
02:11:34,720 --> 02:11:37,800
Speaker 5: Because when it comes to a texture of hair, just

2508
02:11:38,000 --> 02:11:40,760
Speaker 5: just just just a woman and just talking to women

2509
02:11:40,800 --> 02:11:42,360
Speaker 5: and dealing with women at all, walk to nature.

2510
02:11:42,560 --> 02:11:44,320
Speaker 3: That has nothing to actually do with the race.

2511
02:11:44,360 --> 02:11:46,520
Speaker 5: It's just people with coarse hair, people that's tied to

2512
02:11:46,560 --> 02:11:49,560
Speaker 5: getting nicked and scratched and getting the bumps and having

2513
02:11:49,680 --> 02:11:52,200
Speaker 5: the ingrown hairs and all that stuff.

2514
02:11:52,480 --> 02:11:55,160
Speaker 3: It's just a way to have you looking sexy.

2515
02:11:54,920 --> 02:11:58,040
Speaker 2: For But I'm not saying it's exclusive black people. I'm

2516
02:11:58,080 --> 02:12:00,760
Speaker 2: saying it's for black people. You know what I'm saying.

2517
02:12:00,840 --> 02:12:03,880
Speaker 2: It was designed for us from it and it's about

2518
02:12:03,960 --> 02:12:06,480
Speaker 2: time somebody designed some ship with us in mind. Truth

2519
02:12:06,680 --> 02:12:09,200
Speaker 2: kind of like this podcast. A lot of people didn't

2520
02:12:09,200 --> 02:12:10,760
Speaker 2: think we'll be able to do this. A lot of

2521
02:12:10,800 --> 02:12:13,200
Speaker 2: people didn't think what you can go premium with a

2522
02:12:13,640 --> 02:12:17,080
Speaker 2: with a black podcast. Yes, because black people have money

2523
02:12:17,400 --> 02:12:20,200
Speaker 2: and we are underserved. So here's something with you in

2524
02:12:20,320 --> 02:12:23,360
Speaker 2: mind when it's created and you love that stuff. And

2525
02:12:23,480 --> 02:12:25,760
Speaker 2: I think that Bebel does the same thing except with

2526
02:12:25,840 --> 02:12:28,720
Speaker 2: a razor. And it's about fucking time, man, because nothing

2527
02:12:28,840 --> 02:12:31,640
Speaker 2: sucks worse than when, like I said, when you use

2528
02:12:31,800 --> 02:12:34,480
Speaker 2: razors that aren't designed for your skin and the itching

2529
02:12:34,760 --> 02:12:38,600
Speaker 2: and they cut you and they you know, right, it's

2530
02:12:38,760 --> 02:12:42,480
Speaker 2: very easy to use if you've never used a If

2531
02:12:42,520 --> 02:12:44,959
Speaker 2: you first of all, if you've ever used like gellette

2532
02:12:45,240 --> 02:12:51,200
Speaker 2: or fucking whatever, then you can use Bebel two. It's

2533
02:12:51,560 --> 02:12:55,200
Speaker 2: like it's designed to not cut your skin. It's designed

2534
02:12:55,280 --> 02:12:58,560
Speaker 2: to not cut below cut the hair beneath the skin

2535
02:12:58,680 --> 02:13:01,120
Speaker 2: so that you get the bumps in every It comes

2536
02:13:01,240 --> 02:13:05,080
Speaker 2: in a very sleek, sexy package. It comes with.

2537
02:13:07,760 --> 02:13:07,800
Speaker 4: It.

2538
02:13:08,360 --> 02:13:11,920
Speaker 2: It comes with like a brush of It comes with

2539
02:13:12,000 --> 02:13:16,600
Speaker 2: shaving cream, it comes with well, with with with like

2540
02:13:16,720 --> 02:13:19,040
Speaker 2: the this oilage put on your skin. So did it's

2541
02:13:19,040 --> 02:13:22,240
Speaker 2: slick when he does shave. I use it this morning,

2542
02:13:23,080 --> 02:13:25,240
Speaker 2: and I kind of enjoyed, like the ritual of shaven.

2543
02:13:25,400 --> 02:13:29,160
Speaker 2: I enjoy you know, cause I kind of missed shaven.

2544
02:13:29,280 --> 02:13:30,800
Speaker 2: I just didn't want to fuck my skin up, and

2545
02:13:30,920 --> 02:13:32,920
Speaker 2: I enjoyed not having a worry about my skin. It's

2546
02:13:32,960 --> 02:13:36,200
Speaker 2: created by Christian Walker, who's a young entrepreneur who wanted

2547
02:13:36,200 --> 02:13:39,960
Speaker 2: to cater to the shaven needs of black men. I

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Speaker 2: Joseph Gibbons sixty one, a filmmaker and visual artist who

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Speaker 2: taught for a decade at one of the world's most

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Speaker 2: his latest art project. Gibbons was charged on Friday with

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Speaker 2: robbery after allegedly making off with one thousand dollars from

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Speaker 2: a Capitol One branch at Bowery and Grand Street in Chinatown.

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Speaker 2: While waiting for his arraignment, the eccentric academic boasted to

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Speaker 2: fellow inmates that his crime was for art's sake. So

2601
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Speaker 2: I guess he doesn't her stop snitching, snitching on himself.

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Speaker 2: No honor among thieves, These niggas turned. He said he

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Speaker 2: was doing a film for a doing research for a

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Speaker 2: film as he dazzled his cell made Kaylan Sharad twenty seven,

2605
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Speaker 2: who apparently told everybody is not a crime as artwork,

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Speaker 2: He's an intellectual Sharad Gush. In former interviews, Gibbons has

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Speaker 2: admitted to using the legal drugs to inspire his short

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Speaker 2: semi autobiographical films. The romantic idea of the artists getting

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Speaker 2: involved in these kinds of activities as a kind of research,

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Speaker 2: gaining experience. But that was the big inspiration on me,

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Speaker 2: Gibbons told the online art journal Big Red and Shining.

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Speaker 2: Now facing felony charges in two states, Gibbons appears to

2613
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Speaker 2: have taken his modus operande a bit far. He ended

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Speaker 2: the Manhattan Bank New Year's Eve around two pm, welding

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Speaker 2: a camcorder and politely handed the tailor a note demanding

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Speaker 2: a donation for his church. Rhode Island police had also

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02:17:50,640 --> 02:17:53,600
Speaker 2: been hunting Gibbons, who stays a similar stick up in

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02:17:53,760 --> 02:17:56,640
Speaker 2: mid November and made off with three thousand dollars in cash.

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Speaker 2: Judge Abraham Klott set bail at fifty thousand thousand dollars

2620
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Speaker 2: after his attorney said gibbons attorney said that his client

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Speaker 2: was mentally sound. Gibbons, who lives in a Boston suburb,

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Speaker 2: has held his teaching gigs and artistic fellowships with several

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Speaker 2: esteemed or organizations he was visiting. He was a visiting

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Speaker 2: artist at Barr College in the nineties and an instructive

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Speaker 2: Massachusettstitute Technology from two thousand and one to twenty ten.

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Speaker 2: According to his LinkedIn profile, the filmmaker, who's been out

2627
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Speaker 2: of work for four years, had previously waxed romantic about

2628
02:18:28,240 --> 02:18:33,160
Speaker 2: basing art on his own illicit activities. I just worried

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Speaker 2: if I had enough problems with me that I could

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Speaker 2: exploit within me, that I could exploit. So when I

2631
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Speaker 2: ran out on my own I started creating them. I

2632
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Speaker 2: made one or two films based on drug addiction. Before that,

2633
02:18:45,840 --> 02:18:51,000
Speaker 2: it was voyeurism. So I guess the race of mister professor,

2634
02:18:51,840 --> 02:18:57,560
Speaker 2: former professor Joseph Gibbons, who filmed his own crime. Let's

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Speaker 2: see one who's heard Rod's bell testimony and yelled out,

2636
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Speaker 2: why is this shaving kit for black people? All shaven

2637
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Speaker 2: kits matter? Uh see Bebel Razor user Jay C's whitey

2638
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Speaker 2: horse owner was described as wacky or not thug. White,

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Speaker 2: white will do anything for the sake of art. White

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Speaker 2: eccentric not crazy means privileged white one who would refuse

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Speaker 2: to cover uh a bombing at the naacp okay, white liberals,

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Speaker 2: struggling artists white. The correct answer is white. I think

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Speaker 2: one person did guess black. I don't know how Leerson, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: who said black? What are you thinking?

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Speaker 8: Like?

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Speaker 2: You don't feel the same to yourself? That's terrible as

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02:20:04,400 --> 02:20:08,280
Speaker 2: a professor, but maybe that you shouldn't feel the same same.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you less resident than us.

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Speaker 3: That's true, that's true, My bad, My bad, you a

2650
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Speaker 3: better person.

2651
02:20:14,120 --> 02:20:19,240
Speaker 2: Fired Oregon cop turned evangelical pastor was charged with dozens

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02:20:19,320 --> 02:20:22,000
Speaker 2: of sex crimes against the turn.

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Speaker 3: Oh mm hm oh. He looked like he'd be doing

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Speaker 3: sto would turn.

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Speaker 2: Let the church say amen, no, no.

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Speaker 6: Is The pastors are trusted individuals, so why would you

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Speaker 6: think the second guess.

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Speaker 3: A person like that?

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Speaker 13: And on your side investigator's exclusive explosive allegations against the

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Speaker 13: pastor of an evangelical church. Take a look at your screen.

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Speaker 13: This is Pastor James Worley of the Powell Valley Church

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02:20:46,600 --> 02:20:49,400
Speaker 13: in Gresham. He is in jail, accused of more than

2663
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Speaker 13: thirty sex crimes against children. Warley is behind Barston on

2664
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Speaker 13: on half million dollars bond on charges originally filed into

2665
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Speaker 13: Shoots County, charges that are more than ten years old.

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Speaker 14: Side investigator Chelsea Copts live outside the church in Gresham. Chelsea,

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02:21:04,240 --> 02:21:06,000
Speaker 14: how many possible victims are we talking.

2668
02:21:05,840 --> 02:21:06,400
Speaker 2: About here.

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02:21:07,959 --> 02:21:08,280
Speaker 3: Right now?

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Speaker 7: Two?

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02:21:08,760 --> 02:21:10,440
Speaker 3: One boy and one girl.

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02:21:10,720 --> 02:21:13,360
Speaker 14: The Dashoots County District's Attorney's office won't say at this

2673
02:21:13,440 --> 02:21:16,720
Speaker 14: point how Worley knew his alleged victims of prosecutors there

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Speaker 14: are concerned there are more.

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Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 14: Inside the Powell Valley Church, he's known as Pastor Jamie Worley.

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02:21:24,360 --> 02:21:27,640
Speaker 14: He's been a senior pastor year since January twenty twelve,

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Speaker 14: married with kids.

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Speaker 6: Initially, when I first met him, he seemed very charming

2680
02:21:32,200 --> 02:21:33,400
Speaker 6: and a likable guy.

2681
02:21:33,920 --> 02:21:37,200
Speaker 14: He's active on social media, guiding his flock with messages

2682
02:21:37,240 --> 02:21:40,200
Speaker 14: about how to lead better lives. On his blog, he writes,

2683
02:21:40,640 --> 02:21:44,040
Speaker 14: love your neighbors. But this man of God now faces

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02:21:44,320 --> 02:21:48,600
Speaker 14: thirty seven sex crimes against two children, including felony, rape,

2685
02:21:48,800 --> 02:21:52,560
Speaker 14: sex abuse, sodomy, and using a child to display sexually

2686
02:21:52,680 --> 02:21:56,160
Speaker 14: explicit conduct. For records show the allegations date back to

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Speaker 14: two thousand and two. So far, there's no indication the

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Speaker 14: case is connect to his.

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02:22:00,680 --> 02:22:02,480
Speaker 6: Church, but it's really devastating.

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02:22:02,760 --> 02:22:05,320
Speaker 14: Lily Proche says she grew up in the church she

2691
02:22:05,440 --> 02:22:07,760
Speaker 14: no longer attends, but says her son is a member

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02:22:07,840 --> 02:22:09,000
Speaker 14: of the church youth group.

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02:22:09,560 --> 02:22:13,040
Speaker 6: Oh it angers me because not only is he in

2694
02:22:13,080 --> 02:22:15,400
Speaker 6: a place of authority in church, but he's been allowed

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02:22:15,440 --> 02:22:18,680
Speaker 6: to be around the local high school and we have

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02:22:18,800 --> 02:22:20,240
Speaker 6: access to those children as well.

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02:22:20,560 --> 02:22:23,320
Speaker 14: I called Gresham Barlow School District and left several messages

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02:22:23,440 --> 02:22:26,360
Speaker 14: so far, no we're back. I also went to Worley's home,

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02:22:26,480 --> 02:22:28,280
Speaker 14: but no one there wanted to talk.

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Speaker 6: It's going to cause a lot of riff in the church,

2701
02:22:34,040 --> 02:22:37,400
Speaker 6: more so than it already has. If it doesn't just tear.

2702
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Speaker 10: It apart completely.

2703
02:22:38,720 --> 02:22:42,680
Speaker 6: As for Lily, he is truly guilty, then it needs

2704
02:22:42,720 --> 02:22:44,440
Speaker 6: to be brought to light as soon as possible so

2705
02:22:44,560 --> 02:22:45,760
Speaker 6: that no one else gets hurt.

2706
02:22:48,320 --> 02:22:50,760
Speaker 14: Back at Live now, I also came here to the

2707
02:22:50,840 --> 02:22:53,920
Speaker 14: church looking for answers. They've been closed since we've arrived,

2708
02:22:53,959 --> 02:22:56,520
Speaker 14: and no one's return calls. I also put in a

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02:22:56,600 --> 02:23:00,440
Speaker 14: request to speak with Worley in the jail. Are no

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02:23:00,560 --> 02:23:03,240
Speaker 14: word back, and unless he bails out, Roskeeters say he

2711
02:23:03,360 --> 02:23:06,360
Speaker 14: will go back to Dashoots County to face charges there.

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Speaker 14: Recording live in Russian chat, I'm Chelsea Copp to K

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Speaker 14: two News.

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Speaker 13: Chelsea, thank you and the on your Side investigators dug

2715
02:23:12,360 --> 02:23:14,920
Speaker 13: into Worley's background and found out the pastor is a

2716
02:23:15,000 --> 02:23:17,880
Speaker 13: former cop. He was a police officer in Tillamook for

2717
02:23:18,040 --> 02:23:21,199
Speaker 13: just over a year. According to records we've obtained. Worley

2718
02:23:21,320 --> 02:23:23,680
Speaker 13: had his badge revoked in two thousand and seven. The

2719
02:23:23,800 --> 02:23:28,320
Speaker 13: Police Review Board mentions an ethical writing of citations inappropriate

2720
02:23:28,400 --> 02:23:31,560
Speaker 13: response to a restraining order, destroying marijuana in the field,

2721
02:23:31,920 --> 02:23:35,760
Speaker 13: and excessive Internet use while on duty. We first found

2722
02:23:35,760 --> 02:23:38,240
Speaker 13: out about Worley's arrest through a news tip. So if

2723
02:23:38,280 --> 02:23:40,320
Speaker 13: you have a story for our on your Side investigators,

2724
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Speaker 13: please email them at investigators at Katu dot com.

2725
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Speaker 2: All right, guys, guess the rights of Pastor Jerviy Warley

2726
02:23:51,000 --> 02:23:54,000
Speaker 2: of the Kids Ministry trying to reach out to the

2727
02:23:54,080 --> 02:23:57,560
Speaker 2: youth the Sure Ministry. Mm hmm. He's active on social

2728
02:23:57,600 --> 02:24:01,800
Speaker 2: media with dick pics. Let's see whiter than a Green

2729
02:24:01,840 --> 02:24:05,160
Speaker 2: Bay package fan. One who prefers his grilled cheese or

2730
02:24:05,200 --> 02:24:09,160
Speaker 2: extra cheese on the side of cheese. White one who

2731
02:24:09,200 --> 02:24:11,680
Speaker 2: gets child in lesting tips from Jared Saint dusty white.

2732
02:24:11,920 --> 02:24:15,400
Speaker 2: Oh white, he needs to be locked under the jail

2733
02:24:15,480 --> 02:24:18,440
Speaker 2: wild wow, Wow, that's not a race. kJ went from

2734
02:24:18,480 --> 02:24:21,680
Speaker 2: oppressing black people to oppressing children white devil ha oh

2735
02:24:21,879 --> 02:24:25,840
Speaker 2: lord fink to cheesey horse blowing land still in the

2736
02:24:25,879 --> 02:24:30,320
Speaker 2: short eye ten years later, ten years passed after charges

2737
02:24:30,360 --> 02:24:32,560
Speaker 2: of foul. Before he went to jail, he was on

2738
02:24:32,680 --> 02:24:36,000
Speaker 2: Facebook full of privileged white How many dumb ass white

2739
02:24:36,080 --> 02:24:38,920
Speaker 2: men had six crowns of kids? That's still considered abuse.

2740
02:24:39,720 --> 02:24:42,720
Speaker 2: Whiter than the driven snow and white? The correct answer

2741
02:24:42,920 --> 02:24:55,200
Speaker 2: is everybody got it. It's white and it's gotta be

2742
02:24:55,280 --> 02:24:59,160
Speaker 2: the first uh first cop that went from abusing black

2743
02:24:59,200 --> 02:25:04,000
Speaker 2: people to just abuse and kids. Slippery slope. I'll put

2744
02:25:04,040 --> 02:25:05,600
Speaker 2: this picture in there. Go ahead. Can what you're saying?

2745
02:25:05,640 --> 02:25:06,080
Speaker 3: That face?

2746
02:25:06,760 --> 02:25:08,320
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, look at this, Look at this. He got

2747
02:25:08,360 --> 02:25:13,240
Speaker 2: them child molested eyes. He's like he crying, like I've

2748
02:25:13,360 --> 02:25:18,920
Speaker 2: touched so many children with the love of Jesus. Mm

2749
02:25:19,000 --> 02:25:23,280
Speaker 2: mm hmm. I guess he's got the whole world in

2750
02:25:23,400 --> 02:25:33,680
Speaker 2: his hands. Just seemen Field hands, that's right hands. Uh sure.

2751
02:25:35,160 --> 02:25:35,280
Speaker 3: Uh.

2752
02:25:35,640 --> 02:25:38,480
Speaker 2: Florida couple spent days in the unlocked closet thought they

2753
02:25:38,520 --> 02:25:40,680
Speaker 2: were trapped, uh, said the cops.

2754
02:25:42,680 --> 02:25:42,760
Speaker 5: Uh.

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02:25:43,000 --> 02:25:46,000
Speaker 2: Player of hapless accused trespassers spent two days in the

2756
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Speaker 2: closet thinking they were trapped inside.

2757
02:25:48,720 --> 02:25:48,960
Speaker 8: Was R.

2758
02:25:49,080 --> 02:25:53,600
Speaker 2: Kelly with them? John R. Wood and Amber Campbell told

2759
02:25:53,680 --> 02:25:56,640
Speaker 2: police that someone had chased them into the closet at

2760
02:25:56,760 --> 02:26:00,920
Speaker 2: Daytona State College's Marine and Environmental Science Center on Sunday.

2761
02:26:01,400 --> 02:26:04,200
Speaker 2: Once they were inside the janitor's closet, they couldn't get out,

2762
02:26:04,760 --> 02:26:07,200
Speaker 2: But it wasn't until Tuesday that our Wood decided to

2763
02:26:07,280 --> 02:26:10,520
Speaker 2: call nine one one. When Daytona Beach police arrived, they

2764
02:26:10,600 --> 02:26:14,400
Speaker 2: discovered that the door did not lock. Cops found human

2765
02:26:14,480 --> 02:26:18,120
Speaker 2: feces and suspected drug pairphnelia in the closet, but they

2766
02:26:18,160 --> 02:26:21,440
Speaker 2: didn't find any drugs. I smoke the TV.

2767
02:26:22,959 --> 02:26:23,360
Speaker 3: Was gone.

2768
02:26:23,920 --> 02:26:28,480
Speaker 2: R Wood and Campbell were both charge of truspaging. Campbell

2769
02:26:28,560 --> 02:26:31,960
Speaker 2: was also charged of violating her probation. In twenty thirteen,

2770
02:26:32,080 --> 02:26:34,560
Speaker 2: she was arrested for escaping a mental health treatment facility,

2771
02:26:35,000 --> 02:26:37,040
Speaker 2: crashing the car, and escaping from the back of a

2772
02:26:37,120 --> 02:26:42,000
Speaker 2: police cruiser. According to The Orlando Sentinel, oh Florida, Arwood's

2773
02:26:42,040 --> 02:26:45,760
Speaker 2: records include five jail sentences in Florida since two thousand,

2774
02:26:46,640 --> 02:26:50,560
Speaker 2: with offenses including arm burglary, possession of more than twenty

2775
02:26:50,600 --> 02:26:54,600
Speaker 2: grands of marijuana, and fleeing law enforcement guests. The race

2776
02:26:55,480 --> 02:27:01,160
Speaker 2: of John Rwood and Amber Campbell. See what they say

2777
02:27:01,200 --> 02:27:06,840
Speaker 2: in the chat some good ship that's no black would

2778
02:27:06,920 --> 02:27:10,720
Speaker 2: touch white. Myth is a hell of a drug. White

2779
02:27:11,520 --> 02:27:14,440
Speaker 2: white black people don't get treatment for being crazy white

2780
02:27:15,240 --> 02:27:18,280
Speaker 2: Bonnie and Clyde Meth users with Peter Fenders still out

2781
02:27:18,400 --> 02:27:24,800
Speaker 2: white colonizers. One who took playing spin the bottle to

2782
02:27:25,000 --> 02:27:29,080
Speaker 2: literal white to literal black. Let's see white else, uh

2783
02:27:30,480 --> 02:27:34,520
Speaker 2: meth white black two black, says Mitchell. Two pair of

2784
02:27:34,560 --> 02:27:40,480
Speaker 2: household white prefers. The original Annie. Joe's fatally correct answer

2785
02:27:40,600 --> 02:27:53,360
Speaker 2: is white and Joe. I mean Mitchell missed it.

2786
02:28:03,000 --> 02:28:04,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, they look like they don't do it. She looks

2787
02:28:04,600 --> 02:28:05,640
Speaker 3: like she got a dollar.

2788
02:28:05,520 --> 02:28:08,680
Speaker 2: Sign on her neck tattoos. You know what I'll say,

2789
02:28:08,760 --> 02:28:11,320
Speaker 2: never trust neck tattoos and a smile. That girl is

2790
02:28:13,480 --> 02:28:24,080
Speaker 2: all right. Double bonus round mm hm, double the po

2791
02:28:25,560 --> 02:28:31,920
Speaker 2: the race, double the pony race. That's right, double the points,

2792
02:28:31,959 --> 02:28:33,840
Speaker 2: double the race for the bonus round. I guess the

2793
02:28:33,959 --> 02:28:36,320
Speaker 2: race so far most people are three for three, A

2794
02:28:36,400 --> 02:28:38,520
Speaker 2: couple of y'allo two for three. Well, let's se if

2795
02:28:38,560 --> 02:28:42,080
Speaker 2: you can get the last one right in lieu of cash.

2796
02:28:42,640 --> 02:28:49,760
Speaker 2: Framingham judge accepts a pair of Nikes for bell Oh Framingham.

2797
02:28:50,680 --> 02:28:55,199
Speaker 2: A Framingham man told Framingham District Court judge on Friday

2798
02:28:55,400 --> 02:28:58,040
Speaker 2: that he had no money to post bail, but he

2799
02:28:58,200 --> 02:29:03,760
Speaker 2: had something else he could give, shoes. Jason Duval, thirty nine,

2800
02:29:03,920 --> 02:29:07,160
Speaker 2: told Judge Douglas Stoddard he would provide the new Nike

2801
02:29:07,280 --> 02:29:10,080
Speaker 2: sneakers he got for Christmas, valued at around eighty five dollars,

2802
02:29:10,160 --> 02:29:14,640
Speaker 2: in exchange for his release. Okay, we'll take them, started said, Framingham.

2803
02:29:14,720 --> 02:29:18,120
Speaker 2: Police had arrestedt Duval at his twenty seventh Henry Street

2804
02:29:18,120 --> 02:29:23,080
Speaker 2: apartment on Thursday on a district court warrant that originally

2805
02:29:23,200 --> 02:29:25,720
Speaker 2: charging with two kinds of possession of a Class BE substance,

2806
02:29:26,080 --> 02:29:29,119
Speaker 2: possession of a Class C substance, and driving to a changer,

2807
02:29:30,040 --> 02:29:34,040
Speaker 2: those charges stemming from twenty twelve were to be dismissed

2808
02:29:34,080 --> 02:29:36,880
Speaker 2: upon paying the court fees. The court issued the warrant

2809
02:29:36,959 --> 02:29:38,959
Speaker 2: for his arrest because he had not paid the four

2810
02:29:39,040 --> 02:29:42,000
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty dollars in court costs. And then some shit,

2811
02:29:42,120 --> 02:29:44,320
Speaker 2: they're not even gonna charge you. They gonna let you go,

2812
02:29:45,480 --> 02:29:47,640
Speaker 2: but you gotta pay four to fifty. But you can't

2813
02:29:47,680 --> 02:29:50,840
Speaker 2: get the fux fifty, Like, just let me go. Then

2814
02:29:51,400 --> 02:29:52,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go to jail for not being able to

2815
02:29:52,959 --> 02:29:56,600
Speaker 2: pay the faux fifty, not for the crimes. That's crazy.

2816
02:29:56,640 --> 02:29:59,160
Speaker 2: He about to do more time for not paying court

2817
02:29:59,200 --> 02:30:01,840
Speaker 2: costs than he could do for paying the costs, I

2818
02:30:01,920 --> 02:30:03,160
Speaker 2: mean for the crime he did.

2819
02:30:03,400 --> 02:30:03,560
Speaker 4: Right?

2820
02:30:04,640 --> 02:30:06,880
Speaker 3: Can I put twenty dollars on the month for a week?

2821
02:30:07,000 --> 02:30:08,600
Speaker 3: I mean, can we renascent of this shit?

2822
02:30:08,920 --> 02:30:09,080
Speaker 2: Right?

2823
02:30:09,680 --> 02:30:11,400
Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure they would have worked with you, because

2824
02:30:11,400 --> 02:30:14,119
Speaker 5: they rather get their four hundred and fifty dollars than nothing.

2825
02:30:14,200 --> 02:30:15,920
Speaker 2: I mean, but they took they willing to take shoes

2826
02:30:15,920 --> 02:30:20,120
Speaker 2: as collateral. This is worse than the mom oh. Daval

2827
02:30:20,280 --> 02:30:22,520
Speaker 2: said he was going through a divorce and had no money.

2828
02:30:23,360 --> 02:30:26,360
Speaker 2: Stoddard told Daval he didn't trust him to release him

2829
02:30:26,400 --> 02:30:28,879
Speaker 2: with our bill, because the judge said he didn't believe

2830
02:30:28,920 --> 02:30:31,280
Speaker 2: Davar would pay any of the money. He offered to

2831
02:30:31,320 --> 02:30:33,040
Speaker 2: send the Val to jail for a few days and

2832
02:30:33,120 --> 02:30:35,480
Speaker 2: then do away with the court costs, but Daval said

2833
02:30:35,520 --> 02:30:37,440
Speaker 2: he didn't want that to happen. I'll give you a

2834
02:30:37,520 --> 02:30:39,920
Speaker 2: chance to be creative, said Stotter. If you can come

2835
02:30:40,000 --> 02:30:41,880
Speaker 2: up with a creative idea to convince me that you

2836
02:30:41,879 --> 02:30:44,480
Speaker 2: will come back, I'll work with you. After a brief break,

2837
02:30:44,560 --> 02:30:46,920
Speaker 2: d Val offered up his new shoes. Stotter took those

2838
02:30:46,920 --> 02:30:49,959
Speaker 2: as ball and told Daval he would get the sneakers

2839
02:30:50,040 --> 02:30:52,760
Speaker 2: back after he paid one hundred to dollars in twenty

2840
02:30:52,840 --> 02:30:57,680
Speaker 2: five weekly twenty five dollars weekly installments beginning January thirteenth.

2841
02:30:57,720 --> 02:31:00,200
Speaker 2: The judge said he will also return the shoes if

2842
02:31:00,280 --> 02:31:02,960
Speaker 2: Deval did ten hours of community service in that timeframe.

2843
02:31:03,840 --> 02:31:07,680
Speaker 2: So guess the race of Jason Duval, who turned in

2844
02:31:07,760 --> 02:31:10,840
Speaker 2: his nikes for bell.

2845
02:31:11,040 --> 02:31:13,280
Speaker 3: They even said, if you come for a few days,

2846
02:31:13,320 --> 02:31:15,600
Speaker 3: we just drop everything, go to.

2847
02:31:15,640 --> 02:31:17,840
Speaker 2: Jail for a few days. But think about it. You

2848
02:31:17,879 --> 02:31:20,000
Speaker 2: want to go jail for a few days, right, You

2849
02:31:20,080 --> 02:31:23,000
Speaker 2: canna have my shoes too, have all the shoes I

2850
02:31:23,120 --> 02:31:26,840
Speaker 2: walk around in socks? Hey got the truth, Marsha Mosquito,

2851
02:31:27,000 --> 02:31:31,960
Speaker 2: says lender brothers sneakers. I can said the currency. They

2852
02:31:32,320 --> 02:31:36,360
Speaker 2: gotta be black, son, They weren't. Jay's though, white, says

2853
02:31:36,480 --> 02:31:41,760
Speaker 2: lex Shauna said, says one who would treat the courtroom

2854
02:31:41,879 --> 02:31:45,120
Speaker 2: like a pawn shot because privileged white damn near free

2855
02:31:45,200 --> 02:31:51,440
Speaker 2: white gum bottom sneakers. Lick of black Jupiter junebug. Uh,

2856
02:31:51,640 --> 02:31:54,840
Speaker 2: that's what Doug William said. This reeks of dog kissing

2857
02:31:54,879 --> 02:31:59,760
Speaker 2: and cheese loving. Since the white white, Aha, it's real

2858
02:32:00,080 --> 02:32:02,840
Speaker 2: lick sneaking. The hands it over to the Baylor White

2859
02:32:03,240 --> 02:32:06,080
Speaker 2: stood in line for twelve hours for those new jays.

2860
02:32:06,120 --> 02:32:10,560
Speaker 2: So it's equal to four fifty black white. Because I

2861
02:32:10,640 --> 02:32:12,720
Speaker 2: don't think it would be this easy for a brother

2862
02:32:13,160 --> 02:32:16,120
Speaker 2: that y'all were divided over this one man. The correct

2863
02:32:16,160 --> 02:32:31,279
Speaker 2: answer is white, And of course some of you guys

2864
02:32:31,640 --> 02:32:43,360
Speaker 2: did miss it. I just felt bad for the poor

2865
02:32:43,440 --> 02:32:45,800
Speaker 2: brother behind him. It's like, well shit, then, man, I

2866
02:32:45,879 --> 02:32:46,920
Speaker 2: got these mellows.

2867
02:32:47,000 --> 02:32:48,680
Speaker 3: I mean, what can we do?

2868
02:32:49,400 --> 02:32:52,080
Speaker 2: What can we do to get this this domestic violence

2869
02:32:52,160 --> 02:32:52,920
Speaker 2: case up off of me?

2870
02:32:53,080 --> 02:32:54,840
Speaker 3: Judge, I pay you twenty five dollars a week for

2871
02:32:54,920 --> 02:32:55,760
Speaker 3: this shit to go away.

2872
02:32:55,959 --> 02:32:58,440
Speaker 2: Hey, brouh, you could get my Madden. You know what

2873
02:32:58,480 --> 02:32:59,959
Speaker 2: I'm saying. I've just got the Mad.

2874
02:33:00,320 --> 02:33:00,760
Speaker 3: Can I get?

2875
02:33:01,120 --> 02:33:02,560
Speaker 2: Can I get something taken off of this?

2876
02:33:02,720 --> 02:33:04,040
Speaker 3: Now? We charged?

2877
02:33:04,360 --> 02:33:04,520
Speaker 2: Right?

2878
02:33:04,680 --> 02:33:06,600
Speaker 3: I mean I got an Xbox one. I mean it's

2879
02:33:06,600 --> 02:33:08,640
Speaker 3: about four hundred and fifty dollars. Can we make a trade?

2880
02:33:08,800 --> 02:33:12,000
Speaker 2: All right? Come on, brother, what's a little arm robbery

2881
02:33:12,040 --> 02:33:12,920
Speaker 2: between friends?

2882
02:33:13,160 --> 02:33:15,240
Speaker 5: And that caolic is off the chain? His head stick

2883
02:33:15,280 --> 02:33:17,560
Speaker 5: is straight up in there. Yeah, and the center of

2884
02:33:17,680 --> 02:33:18,080
Speaker 5: his head.

2885
02:33:18,959 --> 02:33:21,600
Speaker 2: All right, and uh, we'll do one more for you guys,

2886
02:33:21,680 --> 02:33:26,600
Speaker 2: because we like you so much. Thank Bevil, Florida Man Old, Florida,

2887
02:33:26,720 --> 02:33:29,840
Speaker 2: is accused decapitating his mother with an axe because she

2888
02:33:29,920 --> 02:33:34,040
Speaker 2: had been nagging him about chores. Oh shit, I guess

2889
02:33:34,080 --> 02:33:37,040
Speaker 2: he figured that she was gonna ask him something. He

2890
02:33:37,120 --> 02:33:53,240
Speaker 2: could ask her something. Christian Jose Gomaz, twenty three, was

2891
02:33:53,360 --> 02:33:58,760
Speaker 2: arrested Wednesday night near his family's house in oldsmar near Tampa, Go,

2892
02:33:58,959 --> 02:34:01,039
Speaker 2: Mass faces the first three murder charge and it's being

2893
02:34:01,080 --> 02:34:03,640
Speaker 2: held without bond. It was unknown if he has an attorney.

2894
02:34:04,200 --> 02:34:06,480
Speaker 2: Deputies responded to a nine one one call found the

2895
02:34:06,520 --> 02:34:09,760
Speaker 2: body of the victim, forty eight year old Maria Suarez

2896
02:34:09,840 --> 02:34:14,080
Speaker 2: Consagnea outside the Residents Go. Maz was found and arrested

2897
02:34:14,200 --> 02:34:17,800
Speaker 2: a few blocks away. Domz hit his mother over their

2898
02:34:17,840 --> 02:34:20,800
Speaker 2: head with an axe, then decapitated her in the garage.

2899
02:34:21,840 --> 02:34:24,280
Speaker 2: He put her head in a garbage can because she

2900
02:34:24,360 --> 02:34:34,080
Speaker 2: had always been trash and whata damn? Oh oh wait,

2901
02:34:34,160 --> 02:34:40,920
Speaker 2: hold on there you go. Uh So he put her

2902
02:34:40,959 --> 02:34:43,280
Speaker 2: head in a garbage can. He tried to put the

2903
02:34:43,320 --> 02:34:46,320
Speaker 2: body inside, but it was too heavy. She chopped it up.

2904
02:34:46,959 --> 02:34:50,360
Speaker 2: Gomez's older brother found the mother's body. Gomez said he

2905
02:34:50,480 --> 02:34:52,440
Speaker 2: was angry with his mother over nagging him to put

2906
02:34:52,480 --> 02:34:54,840
Speaker 2: some boxes in the attic, and he had been planning

2907
02:34:54,920 --> 02:34:59,280
Speaker 2: the murder for two days. Official said, guess the race

2908
02:34:59,400 --> 02:35:05,800
Speaker 2: of mister Jose. What Christian Jose Gomez twenty three years old.

2909
02:35:06,240 --> 02:35:07,160
Speaker 2: Let's see what they say?

2910
02:35:07,320 --> 02:35:09,400
Speaker 3: And he had the same intelligence as some school kids,

2911
02:35:09,440 --> 02:35:09,720
Speaker 3: didn't he?

2912
02:35:10,000 --> 02:35:12,800
Speaker 2: I know he's planning it for two days, got tired

2913
02:35:12,840 --> 02:35:15,320
Speaker 2: of getting asked too many questions, so he asked her

2914
02:35:15,400 --> 02:35:18,640
Speaker 2: one one who sharpens his axe on the calluses on

2915
02:35:18,760 --> 02:35:22,320
Speaker 2: his feet from crossing the border and the water from

2916
02:35:22,440 --> 02:35:26,600
Speaker 2: his back. Uh, that's Doug. He's new to the first

2917
02:35:26,600 --> 02:35:28,080
Speaker 2: I think this is the first live show, and he's

2918
02:35:28,120 --> 02:35:31,240
Speaker 2: come out to box with racism. Black Rob says he

2919
02:35:31,400 --> 02:35:35,480
Speaker 2: cleared up after the decapitation had left the garage spic

2920
02:35:35,800 --> 02:35:40,440
Speaker 2: and span ha ha oh, Black Rob. He race his

2921
02:35:40,520 --> 02:35:42,840
Speaker 2: son of a bitch. I think I'm just gonna start

2922
02:35:42,840 --> 02:35:47,080
Speaker 2: calling him black ass Rob. You use the axe that

2923
02:35:47,200 --> 02:35:52,800
Speaker 2: he needs for chopping down those orange trees. Latino dexter,

2924
02:35:52,920 --> 02:35:59,360
Speaker 2: Latino version, crazy eyes, crazy eyed white. Hispanic sounded sounds

2925
02:35:59,400 --> 02:36:03,280
Speaker 2: like Latina, Goya, goblet, interstate cent your sales representatives, Oh,

2926
02:36:03,600 --> 02:36:12,480
Speaker 2: litle brothers, Christian wait, childish gambiner, Latin ah ah ah uh.

2927
02:36:12,680 --> 02:36:15,120
Speaker 2: He who invites his friends to go swimming in the

2928
02:36:15,240 --> 02:36:19,640
Speaker 2: area above his ass orange. You glad he's in jail

2929
02:36:19,760 --> 02:36:24,840
Speaker 2: Mexican burrito eating Latino. The correct answer is and uh,

2930
02:36:25,480 --> 02:36:27,280
Speaker 2: I guess this one was too easy because y'all all

2931
02:36:27,400 --> 02:36:32,480
Speaker 2: got it. He is Latino and he looks crazy.

2932
02:36:32,760 --> 02:36:45,720
Speaker 5: Ass hell, Hey, baby, his hairs are like the same

2933
02:36:45,800 --> 02:36:48,280
Speaker 5: hell and that had I had yesterday, So it ain't blue.

2934
02:36:48,600 --> 02:36:52,560
Speaker 2: He like dumb and dumber to me, like somebody from

2935
02:36:52,600 --> 02:36:57,200
Speaker 2: that movie Good crazygan a while. I mean, you can't

2936
02:36:57,200 --> 02:36:59,200
Speaker 2: tell him his haircut that he gonna kill you. I mean,

2937
02:36:59,240 --> 02:37:02,360
Speaker 2: not to blame the vict them, but you know, mama,

2938
02:37:02,400 --> 02:37:04,440
Speaker 2: if you if you gotta cut your son hair like that,

2939
02:37:04,760 --> 02:37:08,840
Speaker 2: you just gotta. You just don't know weapons around the house,

2940
02:37:08,879 --> 02:37:12,080
Speaker 2: because he's gonna definitely kill you. Uh, speaking of weapons

2941
02:37:12,080 --> 02:37:35,119
Speaker 2: around the house, definitely killing people. That dude that killed

2942
02:37:35,160 --> 02:37:38,360
Speaker 2: his mama was smiling hard in his mugshot too, like

2943
02:37:38,640 --> 02:37:45,440
Speaker 2: finally the bitch is dead all god nagging Jesus mon

2944
02:37:45,760 --> 02:37:50,680
Speaker 2: mind soundstands. Shiit aw Man so glad to be in prison,

2945
02:37:50,879 --> 02:37:55,879
Speaker 2: it was worth it. A roommate nearly loses an ear

2946
02:37:55,959 --> 02:37:59,039
Speaker 2: in a sword attack. Also this happened in Florida. Sh

2947
02:38:00,160 --> 02:38:03,760
Speaker 2: Fort myers Man was arrested Friday morning after athority said

2948
02:38:03,800 --> 02:38:06,120
Speaker 2: he nearly chopped his roommate's ear off with a katana

2949
02:38:06,160 --> 02:38:11,840
Speaker 2: style sword. John Peter Heck, sixty years old, faces a

2950
02:38:11,920 --> 02:38:15,199
Speaker 2: charge of aggravated battery with a deadly weapon. I wonder

2951
02:38:15,320 --> 02:38:18,360
Speaker 2: when it's uh where his roommate got chopped in the ear.

2952
02:38:18,440 --> 02:38:24,040
Speaker 2: He was like, what the heck? Heck uh, and he's like,

2953
02:38:24,120 --> 02:38:25,520
Speaker 2: my name's name is really hell?

2954
02:38:26,240 --> 02:38:26,720
Speaker 3: Oh lord.

2955
02:38:27,240 --> 02:38:29,760
Speaker 2: The attack followed an argument, according to the Lee County

2956
02:38:29,840 --> 02:38:31,880
Speaker 2: Sheriff's Office, where the victim was struck in the head

2957
02:38:31,959 --> 02:38:35,160
Speaker 2: and the arm with the sword at the allegedly a

2958
02:38:35,280 --> 02:38:41,520
Speaker 2: legend and Hack had stole his wash cloths. Hey now now, now, John,

2959
02:38:41,560 --> 02:38:44,000
Speaker 2: Peter Heck, you've been stealing. You've been stealing my wash cloths.

2960
02:38:44,040 --> 02:38:46,560
Speaker 2: Bro I get my sword out. Well, that don't make

2961
02:38:46,600 --> 02:38:49,560
Speaker 2: you not guilty, right, you probably did it. Now, this

2962
02:38:49,680 --> 02:38:51,920
Speaker 2: is wade. This is a much more defensive reaction.

2963
02:38:52,680 --> 02:38:54,440
Speaker 3: Didn't mean to take it this fall. I love just

2964
02:38:54,520 --> 02:38:55,320
Speaker 3: ask him super question.

2965
02:38:55,480 --> 02:38:57,720
Speaker 2: An innocent man probably would just say I didn't do it.

2966
02:38:57,879 --> 02:38:59,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, and no. But it's sufficed.

2967
02:39:00,160 --> 02:39:02,080
Speaker 2: So you sixty with a roommate. What's wrong with you?

2968
02:39:03,200 --> 02:39:05,440
Speaker 2: The victim told Belice that at the hospital. From the

2969
02:39:05,520 --> 02:39:08,120
Speaker 2: hospital that the argument started when Heck accused him of

2970
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Speaker 2: dropping food on the floor while cooking, and then the

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Speaker 2: confront the Heck with the stolen wash cloth allegations. Oh okay,

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Speaker 2: so it's like, oh man, you dropped the chicken on

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Speaker 2: the floor. You try to just five second roll to

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Speaker 2: fix me a chicken soundch No, nigga, you gonna fucking

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Speaker 2: I'm not eating that shit. And he's like, well, you

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Speaker 2: stole the wa wash cloths. I wonder the victim see

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Speaker 2: the Maybe they would love us, because that seemed like

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Speaker 2: an argument that lovers do right when you call somebody

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Speaker 2: else chicken to wash cloths and knives you bringing up

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Speaker 2: old shit. Yeah, roommate, I think we got to the

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Speaker 2: bottom of this. They gave Yeah, there was a couple.

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Speaker 2: The victim suffered a deep laceration in his right fore arm.

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Speaker 2: In his right ear was nearly seven off in it,

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Speaker 2: which was nearly seven off in the attack. They left

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Speaker 2: him bleeding profusely. When debuties arrived, they saw Heck. They

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Speaker 2: say Heck told him he acted in self defense. The

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Speaker 2: sword had a twenty inch blade, according to the report,

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Speaker 2: which knows that the victim needed more than twenty staples

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Speaker 2: and stitches to reattach his ear. I heard that, you

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Speaker 2: know what I'm may I think you guys know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying. We'll talk to you guys tomorrow at nine

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Speaker 2: pm where our guests should be. Somebody that you gotta

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Speaker 2: know as Rita or the NFL. Check on Twitter. So

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Speaker 2: see you guys tomorrow. Make sure you visit Adam and

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Speaker 2: Best of Rod and Karen audio play album. We'll talk

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Speaker 2: to you guys later. Until then, I love you Why