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Speaker 1: Hey, and welcome to the short stuff. I'm Josh, and

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Speaker 1: there's Chuck and Ben's here too, sitting in for Jerry,

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Speaker 1: who usually sits in for day. It's very confusing, so

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Speaker 1: let's forget the whole thing and get started because this

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Speaker 1: is short stuff.

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Speaker 2: Hey, happy day after birthday friend.

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Speaker 1: Oh, thank you very much. I appreciate that, friend. What'd

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Speaker 1: you do? Oh geez, I can't really get into it here,

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Speaker 1: but it was a good birthday.

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Speaker 2: Okay, tell me in private.

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Speaker 1: We had a good time. But no, I appreciate you

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Speaker 1: getting those posts on social media up. That was very

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Speaker 1: nice of you. It made me feel very loved.

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Speaker 2: Hey, of course people love you, and they said so

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Speaker 2: in the in the hundreds and thousands.

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Speaker 1: I know, it's really nice. Thanks a lot. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: text me, You're like, you're getting a lot of love

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Speaker 1: over on Instagram right now.

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Speaker 2: Well, so I have to get you to open Instagram.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, it works like a charm.

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Speaker 2: It's no good my good deed goes unseen if you

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Speaker 1: So but thank you for that. Of course we'll have

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Speaker 1: to go back and edit all this out because this

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Speaker 1: is short stuff.

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Speaker 2: Uh no, that was only a minute. Ten eleven twelve.

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Speaker 2: We're doing great, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, Well, then we have to talk really fast for

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Speaker 1: the rest of the episode.

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Speaker 2: Well, we're talking about something near and dear to my

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Speaker 2: heart that I've talked about on stage in front of

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Speaker 2: thousands of people, and that is the fact that I

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Speaker 2: not always, but I mostly try to sit down when

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Speaker 2: I go peepy.

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Speaker 1: H I do too, I'm a sitzpinkler.

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Speaker 2: Oh do you just started doing that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I think I confessed along with you on stage

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Speaker 1: in Seattle too, if I remember correctly, But yeah, yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: I totally now I own it. At the time, I

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Speaker 1: was a little wary. Now I'm like, yeah, I sit

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And if I remember correctly, my on stage joke

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Speaker 1: That's right, that was a classic. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I've been doing that though for I feel like it's

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Speaker 2: semi knew, like in the past, like six or seven years.

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Speaker 2: you know, adult male that I saw doing this was

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Speaker 2: my brother in law when I lived with them, my

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Speaker 1: Oh that makes sense because this is a very German thing.

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Speaker 1: Like there's even know that I didn't either. I think.

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Speaker 1: Actually you me found this one because we were talking

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Speaker 2: Uh No, you said it right, basically since sitzpink.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there you go. That's what I was looking for.

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Speaker 2: You just got to add a little flare.

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Speaker 1: It makes sense too that the Germans would have a

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Speaker 1: But the reason why a little bell went off in

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Speaker 2: And Germany went out. I didn't quite get this because

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Speaker 2: it says sixty two percent of German Men sit every time.

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Speaker 1: Nope, a combined sixty two every time or most times.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which all of that's a little surprising. I thought

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's such a sexister misogynistic. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: And somehow, some way, German society said, nine, we're taking

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it. They even have this, This is incredible,

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Speaker 2: Nothing would splash, sort of like a bidet. You know,

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Speaker 2: recorded a message that says things like excuse me, except

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so if you lift the toilet, it triggers that voice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes they'll be recorded in the voice of a

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Speaker 1: But I mean, that's how invested in getting men to

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Speaker 2: And I guess we'll come back and talk a little

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Speaker 1: Right for this indubitably.

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Speaker 2: So one thing I thought was, you know, since it

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Speaker 2: you know, Captain America sat to pee in a Marvel

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Speaker 2: I think it's just literally people men realizing that it's

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think men finally started listening to women when

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Speaker 1: Get out of the house forever? Yeah, because it is

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Speaker 1: a matter of fact, you might want to check that. God,

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Speaker 1: but if you stand up to pee, the chances are

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Speaker 1: splattered somewhere some way. Sometimes this is a terrible thing

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, I was going to say not

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Speaker 2: But I've seen guys on their phone, like you get

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think the thing that really is the

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Speaker 2: Well, bring Young University. They study fluid dynamics there in

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, because there's a lot of factors contributing to

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Speaker 1: There's a whole period where it's not it's just flying

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Speaker 1: Everything's going really well. And then after about six inches

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Speaker 1: in stability. It's a fluid dynamic phenomenon where a stream

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you nailed it. Porcelain is also a problem because

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Speaker 2: Reason why everyone, though, does anyone key to eighty percent

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Speaker 1: Well, no, there's just off you can you can run

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Speaker 2: No, that's I get you.

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Speaker 1: I think it has to do with prostate. But so

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I get all that now because I, in

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Speaker 1: Ipso facto, everybody should sit down to pee. The problem

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Speaker 1: But really, if that's your choice, I feel like in

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Speaker 2: pee in that toilet. That's how that was The gateway

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Speaker 1: Well, I remember the first time that happened to me.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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