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Speaker 1: having a spectacular summer day. It's All Star Day. That's right,

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Speaker 1: The All Star Game will be played tonight in hot Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: I feel so weird for you trying to say hot Lanta. Right,

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Speaker 1: it does feel really weird to say hot Lanta. So

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Speaker 1: now it is hot in Atlanta, which is kind of

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Speaker 1: like one of those like and I we'll get to

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Speaker 1: the podcast. It's weird. This was the All Star Game

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Speaker 1: supposed to be played in twenty nineteen in Atlanta. Some

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Speaker 1: political stuff post, you know, some political stuff got this

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Speaker 1: thing kind of moved and it's it's obviously gonna be

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Speaker 1: played now. But I don't know, playing an Alstar game

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Speaker 1: Atlanta feels like a miserable experience. Hey, good news is

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Speaker 1: you can play Allstar Game. Bad news is it's like

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Speaker 1: ninety with ninety five percent humidity. Nonetheless, I don't know

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Speaker 1: white guys saying how Hotlanta is a lot like white

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Speaker 1: guy saying for Shizzle. Agreed, disagree, Jason, you want to

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Speaker 1: discuss anyway. Yeah, you can't do it. Can't do it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you can do it, but nobody takes you

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Speaker 1: seriously when you do it. Do do it. So nobody's

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Speaker 1: taking me seriously. And I actually completely understand that, totally

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Speaker 1: understand that. I we'll get to that. We'll get to

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Speaker 1: the Garrett Wilson extension talk a little bit about that.

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Speaker 1: There's also a WNBA poll of WNBA players as to

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Speaker 1: who will be the face of the league in five years.

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Speaker 1: Some interesting results there, not to get to, but I

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Speaker 1: wanted to start with what I think. I woke up

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Speaker 1: to this story and I thought, oh, that's it. That's

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Speaker 1: a great topic for us. Scottis Shafflers won uh what

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Speaker 1: four majors? He won two masters? Excuse me, three majors

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Speaker 1: went He's won two masters and he he said this

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Speaker 1: the Scottish Open taking place, and they have the Open Championship,

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Speaker 1: he said, in a kind of I don't know, it's

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Speaker 1: just weird. Let me just play it for you and

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Speaker 1: then we'll discuss.

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Speaker 2: It feels like you work your whole life to celebrate

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Speaker 2: winning a tournament for like a few minutes. It only

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Speaker 2: lasts a few minutes, that kind of vieuphoric feeling, like

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Speaker 2: to win the Bayern Nelson Championship at home. I literally

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Speaker 2: worked my entire life to become good at golf to

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Speaker 2: have an opportunity to win that tournament. And you win it,

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Speaker 2: you celebrate, get to hug, hug my family, my sister's there.

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Speaker 2: It's such an amazing moment. And then it's like, okay,

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Speaker 2: now what are we gonna eat for dinner? You know,

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Speaker 2: life is on this Is it great to be able

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Speaker 2: to win tournaments and to accomplish the things I haven't

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Speaker 2: have that kind of sense of accomplishment I think is

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Speaker 2: a pretty cool feeling. You know, to get to live

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Speaker 2: out your dreams, it's very special. But at the end

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Speaker 2: of the day, It's like, I'm not out here to

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Speaker 2: inspire the next generation of golfers. I don't I'm not

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Speaker 2: in the world, because what's the point? You know, this

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Speaker 1: Sounds like Scotti Scheffler is going to pick up something

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Speaker 1: else here in the next couple of years, does it.

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Speaker 1: This is honestly a great is he gen Z? What

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Speaker 1: jen is twenty nine years old? Scotti Scheffler gen Z? Yep,

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Speaker 1: he's gen Z. This is a gen Z discussion. And

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Speaker 1: so for us, for us gen xers were like, and again,

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Speaker 1: I just don't necessarily know if it comes down to

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Speaker 1: winning the day, winning, winning, winning, finding a way to win.

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Speaker 1: And U gen Z was like, I understand. You know,

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Speaker 1: So I actually do love what I do. Yesterday, for example,

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Speaker 1: some auction stuff, right, Like, there are things that I

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Speaker 1: but I'll tell you what I've told other people that

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Speaker 1: of people don't like their job. That's the truth. And

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Speaker 1: the difference in generation is the newer generation is, well,

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Speaker 1: sign something that is fulfilling, whereas forty plus is like, well,

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Speaker 1: complaining about I don't know. It's a discussion I'd like

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Speaker 1: But I think this is a great topic at your

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of people that make it to what

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Speaker 2: what's the point? I really do believe that, because you.

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Speaker 2: You're like, why do I want to win this tournament

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Speaker 2: gonna be like, hey, you want two majors this year?

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Speaker 1: You don't love to pa, don't say that. Don't say that.

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Speaker 1: is Instagram because you see what everybody else is doing.

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Speaker 1: the filter of Instagram is a real thing. Everybody's life

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Speaker 1: is great. Hey, I saw your son play basketball. He's amazing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: It looks incredible. Everybody looks happier, every woman looks hotter,

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Speaker 1: I'm wondering your opinion on Scotti Schefer's comments.

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Speaker 3: I first of all, I'm fascinated by your opinion we

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Speaker 3: that the path that you chose here. So a couple

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Speaker 3: people of faith that would say serving a God is

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Speaker 3: what we're here to do. I think we are here

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Speaker 3: this is kind of what Scotty Scheffler is missing. When

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Speaker 3: he says that the winds do not fill that part

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Speaker 3: which we all know is frivolous and temporary.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I agree with that, but I

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Speaker 1: I don't know enough about his personal life, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's totally different when you're there and your wife and

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Speaker 1: I would also say the other way around, right, like

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Speaker 1: being a divorced dad, is when you do have these

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Speaker 1: I do understand. Again, it doesn't land that way with

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Speaker 1: Hope you're having a spectacularly good day. I can tell

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Speaker 1: many negative comments as there is positive comments. Some of

429
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Speaker 1: it's fair, a lot of it's unfair where you're taking

430
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Speaker 1: you know, literally every network has gone through this where

431
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Speaker 1: because politics has become so unbelievably divisive that if you

432
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Speaker 1: take the comments of one and you put it to

433
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Speaker 1: the whole, especially as as big as ESPN is, as

434
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Speaker 1: many people are on at ESPN, that I think there's

435
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Speaker 1: there's an unfair negative connotation about the place. But my

436
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 1: boss here, scottis Shapiro, was there at the same time.

437
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Speaker 1: I loved it. I love that I worked at the magazine,

438
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Speaker 1: I wrote for dot com. I obviously at college basketball.

439
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 1: I had a radio show, and I started the radio

440
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Speaker 1: show doing like a late night seven p to one AM,

441
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Speaker 1: me and Chuck Wilson, and we all kind of grew

442
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Speaker 1: from there and then I ended up having kind of

443
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Speaker 1: four to seven the afternoon. And the point is that,

444
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Speaker 1: like when I got in, all those people that had

445
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Speaker 1: come through as producers and board ops, they kind of

446
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Speaker 1: grew and they're now bosses or running radio stations or

447
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Speaker 1: have gone off and become even bigger and brighter and better.

448
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: When it was really hard for me to leave, and

449
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Speaker 1: I remember I was so excited about doing moving home,

450
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Speaker 1: doing the Final four, doing the NCAA tournament. And then

451
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Speaker 1: I got done with the first year and I was

452
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Speaker 1: in California, but it wasn't as easy and the travel

453
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Speaker 1: was way harder, and we were working with people you

454
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Speaker 1: didn't know and they didn't know you. And it's a

455
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Speaker 1: completely different way of doing the exact same thing you've

456
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Speaker 1: done forever and you're just so uncomfortable. And I came

457
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Speaker 1: up with an idea for a book, and the idea

458
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Speaker 1: for the book is kind of what Scotti Schffler's saying,

459
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Speaker 1: and which is the I was trying to think of,

460
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Speaker 1: like the top of the mountain has no chairs, right

461
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Speaker 1: because there's no ability. You just don't have the ability

462
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Speaker 1: to enjoy your successes. Now, for me, part of it

463
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Speaker 1: was I was doing a radio shows, doing a TV show,

464
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Speaker 1: and I was doing college basketball. If I had just

465
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Speaker 1: done college basketball and just done the Final four, I

466
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Speaker 1: have no doubt in my mind I would have really

467
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Speaker 1: enjoyed that time off with my summer. I you know,

468
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Speaker 1: my personal life kind of started to, I don't want

469
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Speaker 1: to say degrade. I still had, I thought a great

470
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Speaker 1: peron because I was working so much and striving for

471
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Speaker 1: more and more and more and more more. There were

472
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Speaker 1: things that I wasn't able to do and I didn't

473
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Speaker 1: do for my family, for my ex spouse, and you

474
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Speaker 1: kind of come to realize that, you know, one, you

475
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Speaker 1: either have to take ownership of your life and going, hey,

476
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Speaker 1: I gotta take time for the people that I care

477
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Speaker 1: about and not just for my job. And then two

478
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Speaker 1: you have to have to find a life partner that

479
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Speaker 1: embraces that part of you, you know, because if you're

480
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Speaker 1: with somebody who doesn't enjoy the climb, doesn't enjoy the fight,

481
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,959
Speaker 1: you know, it's like, hey, you won, you're good, smile,

482
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Speaker 1: enjoy it, and you know, just cruise and have a

483
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Speaker 1: great life. I think I could do that, but I

484
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Speaker 1: don't think that's who I am. I Jay Stude, you

485
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Speaker 1: know who Bruce Gilbert is, right. Bruce used to be

486
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Speaker 1: our boss a long time ago at ESPN Radio. He

487
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Speaker 1: was once supon time the boss at Fox Sports Trade.

488
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Speaker 1: I think he runs Westwood Radio now yea, And I

489
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,439
Speaker 1: never get my first year broadcasting. Bruce called me in

490
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Speaker 1: and he was just like first year of ESPN Russia

491
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Speaker 1: and he's my radio Boston. He was like, hey, I

492
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 1: got good news and bad news, and the good news

493
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Speaker 1: was we you know, I know, you don't don't really

494
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 1: watch that much hockey. You'd never have to talk hockey again.

495
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: Every study we've seen, everyone we've seen says, you know,

496
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: you talk about hockey on national radio. Creat He's like, hey,

497
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 1: here's the negative is you gotta do better baseball. You

498
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 1: come out of college basketball and at the time, baseball

499
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: was incredibly important and we're located in the northeast Red

500
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Speaker 1: Sox Yankees, et cetera. And he he said, we start

501
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: talking about like who you are as a person, and

502
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 1: I said, I'm a more guy. He's like, what do

503
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Speaker 1: you mean. I said, I just there's never been a

504
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Speaker 1: thing in my life time in my life where I

505
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Speaker 1: haven't wanted more. You know, binge watching shows is like

506
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Speaker 1: made for me because if I watch the show, I

507
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Speaker 1: gotta watch ten.

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Speaker 8: You know.

509
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Speaker 1: One of the reasons I rarely drink is because I

510
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 1: just again I do, I will do things to excess.

511
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Speaker 1: I'm not excessive compulsive, but I'm I just. I always

512
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: want the next thing. I get an opportunity, I want

513
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Speaker 1: another opportunity, I get a chance, I want another chance.

514
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Speaker 1: I get a job or another job. I make ten,

515
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Speaker 1: I want twenty. And at the time it was this

516
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Speaker 1: is who I am, which is great, but there is

517
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Speaker 1: there can be a lack of fulfillment with just enjoying

518
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Speaker 1: the daily w and enjoying what you the success you

519
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Speaker 1: have while still pursuing that excellence. Anyway, when I hear

520
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Speaker 1: Scotty Scheffler talk about it, I relate to it. I

521
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: understand it can be super super lonely, it can be

522
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Speaker 1: super unfulfilling, and you do feel robotic if you're a

523
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Speaker 1: process orange a guy and you're constantly going to practice

524
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: arrange like what am I doing this for? But I

525
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Speaker 1: also will tell you that when you take that competitive

526
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: event out of somebody's life, they just search for things

527
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Speaker 1: to compete with. And that's when it doesn't It doesn't

528
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Speaker 1: work outside the sports world. Like I actually think, like, hey, Scotty,

529
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Speaker 1: you don't you should do not go to the Masters

530
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: next year, watch it at home or be away from it,

531
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Speaker 1: and that's how you'll know if you're jonesing for it.

532
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: The hardest thing for most athletes, that first year is terrible.

533
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Speaker 1: And I tell coaches this all the time. I told

534
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Speaker 1: Irban Meyer this before he went back and took the

535
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Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars job. I was like, hey, if you do games,

536
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: this is remember he was ESPN, then he went back,

537
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: then he was Fox, then he went back to the Jaguars, right,

538
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Speaker 1: And I was like, if you do games, if you

539
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: call games live, you're gonna want to coach. If you're

540
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: in the studio maybe maybe not, but if you're at

541
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Speaker 1: the actual stadium, you're at the arena, you're gonna want

542
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Speaker 1: to do it. Why because you're a competitor and all

543
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: the goosebumps on your arm come up because you don't

544
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: even care if you're in the losing locker room. You

545
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: just want a chance. You just want to scoreboard and

546
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Speaker 1: a bunch of guys and a bunch of coaches and

547
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: try and figure out how to win. Anyway, I think

548
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Speaker 1: some of this is in his wiring, some of it

549
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: is in generationally that people are searching for fulfillment at

550
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Speaker 1: an age in which that's not really time for fulfillment.

551
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Speaker 1: And some of it is in the fact that maybe

552
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: some of us are also screwed up in that we

553
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Speaker 1: just love the competition on a daily basis. That ends

554
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Speaker 1: my ted talk Jase too, what do you think.

555
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Speaker 3: All makes sense to me? That's your experience. Absolutely. I

556
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Speaker 3: think that the one thing that I heard the second

557
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Speaker 3: time we played this chef or sound is that he

558
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Speaker 3: is telling us that he has either been to therapy

559
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Speaker 3: or wants to go to therapy to resolve whatever is

560
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Speaker 3: that disallows him to enjoy the wins. Because I don't

561
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Speaker 3: think every athlete is wired this way. I do think

562
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Speaker 3: that very few athletes are wired to be sophisticated enough

563
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Speaker 3: to articulate it as well as he did. In other words,

564
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Speaker 3: I don't have faith in a lot of athletes articulating

565
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Speaker 3: that if they feel it. But I think he's telling

566
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Speaker 3: us he needs to fix whatever is preventing him from

567
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Speaker 3: being fulfilled by these wins.

568
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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 1: I think, listen, there's a lot of ways in which

570
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: people go after fulfillment, right, guys. Sometimes it's drugs, sometimes

571
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: it's women, Sometimes it's you. You keep trying for that

572
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: next win, thinking Okay, now I'll feel the fulfillment. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean therapy is a is a good route. You

574
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Speaker 1: mentioned relationships and not having that as a kind of

575
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Speaker 1: background or a support system. If you will for everything

576
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: he does, I think that would be interesting. I think also,

577
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Speaker 1: you know, if you don't want to do it, if

578
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Speaker 1: it's not bringing you joy, you don't want to compete, fine,

579
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Speaker 1: plenty of dudes that do. I low second time through

580
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Speaker 1: What do you hear when you listen to listen to?

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Speaker 6: I think that's what made this such a fascinating topic.

582
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Speaker 6: But just like Jason, I caught something the second time

583
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Speaker 6: that I didn't catch the first time. Of course, what

584
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 6: I caught was a lot more impressive and insightful than

585
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 6: what Jason caught just trying to bust your chops there.

586
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Speaker 6: It was at the very end when he basically said,

587
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Speaker 6: but I still love the process. I love the work

588
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Speaker 6: that goes into it. And to me, that told me

589
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Speaker 6: a lot, because, as you mentioned, Doug, there's so many

590
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Speaker 6: different types out there. Some people achieve one thing, they're

591
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Speaker 6: immediately onto the next thing. I think there's other people

592
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Speaker 6: who are in love with the process and not necessarily

593
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Speaker 6: the result. And what I'm talking about is kind of

594
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Speaker 6: the boring little details of our respective professions that might

595
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Speaker 6: seem boring to an outsider, but it's the kind of

596
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Speaker 6: thing that people who really love the process like like

597
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Speaker 6: for this specific role. This might sound weird to a

598
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Speaker 6: lot of other people, but when we get to Wimbledon

599
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Speaker 6: and the French Open, I enjoy the process of trying

600
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 6: to track down these wacky pronunciations from these tennis players

601
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 6: from all over the world like Bulgaria and Hungary, and

602
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Speaker 6: I have no idea, but you have to be able

603
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Speaker 6: to enjoy those kinds of boring details. And we've heard

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Speaker 6: athletes throughout our coverage of sports say you know, I

605
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Speaker 6: knew it was time to retire when I stopped enjoying practice,

606
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Speaker 6: when I stopped enjoying the preparation for games. I think

607
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Speaker 6: people have said, you know, that's kind of the litmus test.

608
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Speaker 6: When part of the joy of sports has been the

609
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Speaker 6: process and that's taken away, then you know it's time

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Speaker 6: to move on. And the second time around, I heard

611
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Speaker 6: that for Scotti Scheffler, that's something that he still enjoys,

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Speaker 6: which I didn't really which didn't really resonate the first

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Speaker 6: time I heard it.

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Speaker 1: By the way, he is married, right, I can check

615
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Speaker 1: he's married.

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Speaker 3: He's married, he's later on. It might even be in

617
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 3: the third cut that his wife is exceptionally supportive and

618
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 3: tries to celebrate the wins and thanks him for working

619
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Speaker 3: so hard. And you know, when I bring up that

620
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Speaker 3: people are unfulfilled who haven't shared love, I'm not talking

621
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Speaker 3: about like somebody to support you. That's a very like

622
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 3: egocentric way of looking at right. I get married to

623
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Speaker 3: have somebody to support me. If you're not in a

624
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 3: relationship where the love is equal, then that's unfulfilling, you know.

625
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Speaker 3: The So I think she's this part of wife. She's

626
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Speaker 3: probably a great pro golfer wife personal life is missing.

627
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't There's there's part of it

628
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: where you're like, look a pro golfer's life, and most

629
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Speaker 1: of us are like, dude, really private jets, great hotels.

630
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Speaker 1: You're playing golf for a living, but you aren't home,

631
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Speaker 1: right and even when you're home, you're not home. And look,

632
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 1: I do know it's different. You're making millions, maybe hundreds

633
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: of millions of dollars. But we can relate to the

634
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Speaker 1: anybody who's been married, like, baby, I'm gonna go play golf,

635
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: like what? And again, when he goes and plays golf,

636
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 1: it ain't like he's just, you know, gonna play quick nine.

637
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 1: You know, like there's a whole process to it. And

638
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:25,919
Speaker 1: when you have I think he has a little son

639
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: like you do, you want to be home. But the

640
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: problem with that is that all that sounds good, but

641
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Speaker 1: a real competitor, I just I think the second you

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Speaker 1: don't have it is the second you go like, what

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Speaker 1: am I doing? I miss it? I want to be

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Speaker 1: out there. It sucks to not be home. Here's here's

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Speaker 1: one Rissillo had a take and I think it was

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Speaker 1: a long time ago when he was over at ESPN

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Speaker 1: and it may have been an off air take, but

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Speaker 1: I think it was on air. And his thing was

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Speaker 1: always like, you know, there's there's always this kind of

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Speaker 1: heroic thing for women who have a child and they

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Speaker 1: go back to work, and you're like, you have kids.

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Speaker 1: He was like, you have kids? To me, what's it

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Speaker 1: like to go back to work? I was like, it sucks.

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Speaker 1: All you want to do is be home? Like all

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Speaker 1: you want to do, Like, is those those little moments

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Speaker 1: you get now if you're at home and you're a

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Speaker 1: stay at home mom and stay at home dad, You're like, dude,

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Speaker 1: I will trade with you any time you want, anytime.

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Speaker 5: I just want to have adult conversation.

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Speaker 1: So again, I fall back on the I am one

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Speaker 1: of the I don't know if it's one percent, if

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Speaker 1: it's five percent, if it's ten percent. I don't feel

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Speaker 1: like I've ever worked a day in my life. And

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Speaker 1: it's because I truly love everything that I've done. I

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Speaker 1: haven't loved who I've done it for, or I haven't

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Speaker 1: less they loved how I've prepared, how I've performed, or

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Speaker 1: who I've worked with or who I've worked for. But

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Speaker 1: it's just the overall, d I have what I do like.

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Speaker 1: Dude's awesome, awesome, And I don't know if Scotty is

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Speaker 1: that guy. He just might be really really good at

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Speaker 1: it and has done it for a long time. And

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Speaker 1: the second somebody goes like, hey, you want to do

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Speaker 1: something else to be like, yeah, but I do think

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Speaker 1: you'll miss the competition.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for listening to The Doug Gotleep Show podcast.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday from three

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Speaker 1: to five Eastern twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Find your local station for The Doug Gotlip Show at

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Speaker 1: Foxsports Tradio dot com, or stream us live every day

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Speaker 1: Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Getting ready for Tonight's

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Speaker 1: All Star Game? Who better than Doug Landville Nine years

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Speaker 1: in the Major League Baseball, longtime analyst at at ESPN

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Speaker 1: and with the Athletic and he's launched his own site

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Speaker 1: called Welcome to Glanville and he joins us now on

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Are you a home run derby guy?

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Speaker 8: I am absolutely, I'm enjoying it. I had a good time.

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Speaker 8: I was on the call, and I think part of

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Speaker 8: It is the awe that you see not only just

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Speaker 8: as a fan and how far O'Neill Cruz hits the ball,

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Speaker 8: but watching other major league players, major League All stars

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Speaker 8: kind of be reduced to their ten year old selves

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Speaker 8: just watching something that seemed impossible. So I enjoy that

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Speaker 8: part of it. And you know, family, You think about

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Speaker 8: Raleigh with his dad and his brother and a lot

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Speaker 8: of those connections. So for that reason and those many

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Speaker 8: I do appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: I bring it up just because I don't know, like

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Speaker 1: it's been going on a while. I thought having the

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Speaker 1: Big Dumber when it was good, considering the first half

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Speaker 1: of the season he's had. On the other hand, it

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Speaker 1: is kind of you know, it is kind of three

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Speaker 1: point shooting chucking contest at some point, and it does

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Speaker 1: it can drag a little bit, can drag a little bit.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, they were trying to make it a little faster

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Speaker 8: with the two minutes, but you know, still kept going.

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Speaker 9: But but yeah, I hear you.

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Speaker 1: What I was going to tell you was, oh, I

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Speaker 1: know it's go say okay, so help me out, cal Raley.

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Speaker 1: Do you think he can continue at this pace in

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Speaker 1: the second half playing catcher?

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Speaker 8: I mean, it's hard to do, and the reason being

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Speaker 8: you're losing probably twenty pounds. I know Mike Piazza used

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Speaker 8: to talk about how much weight he would lose. I know,

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Speaker 8: I lost twenty five pounds in my first minor league season.

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Speaker 8: It's tough to just keep that energy. And by the way,

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Speaker 8: he has all these other jobs besides hitting, he's managing

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Speaker 8: a staff, he's in meetings, he's there's so much extra

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Speaker 8: and at a position that's so violent and you know,

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Speaker 8: foul ball off the mask, everything's really beating up on

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Speaker 8: your body. So that's that would be hard. It's not

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Speaker 8: that you know, he has the if he was playing

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Speaker 8: first base or DH I said, yeah, sure, he could

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Speaker 8: keep it up. I think it's just so much harder

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Speaker 8: as a catcher.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, still kind of remarkable. And now he's a catcher,

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Speaker 1: but doing it in Seattle, where not a hitter's ballpark

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Speaker 1: by any means. The Dodgers, if you were running the Dodgers,

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Speaker 1: obviously their pitching staff, you feel like is going to

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Speaker 1: get healthier, but hit a tough stretch there at the

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Speaker 1: end of the first half of the season. Any changes

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Speaker 1: you would make.

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Speaker 8: Oh, I mean, the problem, like many teams are facing

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Speaker 8: is you just can't stay healthy, and the Dodgers have

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Speaker 8: been really an extreme end of that spectrum with some

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Speaker 8: of the real key pictures. I remember the first meeting

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Speaker 8: we had earlier in the season when we opened with

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Speaker 8: Tiger's Dodgers, a question came up. David Cohen was like, hey, Dave, like,

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Speaker 8: how many starters do you have? Like who's He's like,

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Speaker 8: I know, your top five, who's there? Six through ten?

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Speaker 8: You know, And the fact is they had answers six

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Speaker 8: through ten that were full of all stars and very

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Speaker 8: capable of pictures that just weren't healthy. So you know,

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Speaker 8: to me, how do you deal with that? Well, you

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Speaker 8: do what they did last year. You kind of hope

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Speaker 8: that they have enough help to get to the right position,

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Speaker 8: and then you go and get another arm or someone

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Speaker 8: to sort of.

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Speaker 9: Pick it up.

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Speaker 8: Like Bets and Freeman and guys that have been really

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Speaker 8: incredible are struggling, and you know, Bets moving from right

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Speaker 8: field and playing short and that's just sort of like

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Speaker 8: what you just talked about with Kyle Rally. It's exhausting

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Speaker 8: to play shortstop exhausting, and you know, he's a great athlete,

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Speaker 8: He's definitely getting older. That's not easy to keep up.

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Speaker 8: And and is he you know, is he the best

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Speaker 8: option there? You know, not only because of defense, but

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Speaker 8: because his offensive productivity. If you can connect those dots,

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Speaker 8: maybe maybe a problem and maybe sort of hurting him.

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Speaker 8: So they have to figure that out. But I think

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Speaker 8: they would have a very different setup if the playoffs

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Speaker 8: started tomorrow. I think they'd have very different defensive alignments.

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Speaker 8: Things would be different because now you're just trying to

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Speaker 8: win one game at the top.

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Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Trader, that's the

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Speaker 1: voice of Doug Landville. Okay, if if we're not, if

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Speaker 1: we who do you think is the biggest challenger to

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Speaker 1: the Dodgers. I've asked everybody this just because you know,

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Speaker 1: there's a good group of National League teams, Cubs, Phillies, Brewers.

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Speaker 1: You know, you could kind of you go probably six

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Speaker 1: six deep or so if you had to, you had

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Speaker 1: to bet your new site Welcome to Glanville on it.

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Speaker 1: Who would be the biggest competitor of the Dodgers in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs Phillies.

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Speaker 8: I say the Phillies, And because going into the season,

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Speaker 8: the thing that kept circling.

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Speaker 9: Around is that they have a really deep.

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Speaker 8: Pitching staff, and it's just like any other team if

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Speaker 8: they stay healthy. You're talking about you know, six starters

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Speaker 8: and guys. And this is Dave Dombroski right there, the

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Speaker 8: front off or head of baseball operation. Dave Dombroski is

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Speaker 8: very aggressive at the trade deadline, very aggressive and getting

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Speaker 8: star power, very aggressive and getting pitchers that have swinging

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Speaker 8: this and velocity, and always goes out and gets an

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Speaker 8: extra starter just in case. So with that mentality, and

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Speaker 8: you know, you're hitting Schwerber, Harper, whoever, all these really

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Speaker 8: good bats, Trade Turner having.

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Speaker 9: A good year.

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Speaker 8: You know, this is the year where if those guys

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Speaker 8: are at their best and they get the arms, then

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Speaker 8: the Dodgers have to contend with the team that has

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Speaker 8: you know, three starters easily in the postseason, plus two

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Speaker 8: guys that can come in the bullpen and change roles.

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Speaker 8: That is really something that a lot of teams don't have.

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Speaker 8: So they can prevent runs and they can score runs.

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Speaker 8: So that's I'd say that's a big challenge for the Dodgers.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio, speaking of the

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Speaker 1: National League, where are you and Mesrawski being in the

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Speaker 1: All Star game.

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Speaker 8: Well what I the way I think of it is

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Speaker 8: this way. Yeah, five games not much of a body

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Speaker 8: of work obviously, So that's that's not you know, I mean,

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Speaker 8: I know Paul schemes and there's others that didn't necessarily

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Speaker 8: have like a full season. I don't put a lot

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Speaker 8: on the kid. It's not his fault. You know, these

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Speaker 8: guys are electric arm and there's no doubt baseball is

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Speaker 8: trying hard to appeal to younger audiences and having young

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Speaker 8: talent that's on display makes a big difference because they

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Speaker 8: can see themselves like, oh yeah, this guy's exciting. It's

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Speaker 8: like Pete crow Armstrong. Kids fall he like the Pied Piper.

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Speaker 8: Kids follow him everywhere, and that's good for the next

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Speaker 8: generation of the game. So, but does that make you

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Speaker 8: an All Star? You know, that's whether you know, that's

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Speaker 8: the question. And when you have Trey Turner, guys we

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Speaker 8: just mentioned Christopher Sanchez that have had really good full

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Speaker 8: halves or close to it, you know, that's hard when

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Speaker 8: you know that there's so many other teams and players

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Speaker 8: that were bonifide full time All Stars. That's the that's

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Speaker 8: the question for me. I look back at my own

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Speaker 8: career ninety eight ninety nine had really good first halves.

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Speaker 8: It's sort of like a Jacob Wilson, a lot of hits,

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Speaker 8: not a lot of powers, full some bases played defense,

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Speaker 8: and I, you know, and I realized that if the

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Speaker 8: wind blew another direction, maybe that could have.

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Speaker 9: Gotten in those two years.

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Speaker 8: And so that's how close a lot of players are

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Speaker 8: just by just you know, playing every single game of

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Speaker 8: the first half. So with Miserowski, it's very hard because

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Speaker 8: he just says five games. I mean, that's just not

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Speaker 8: a lot. He could he could up two bad starts

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Speaker 8: in a row and have a six CRA. I mean,

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Speaker 8: that's how fragile those numbers are. But we're in an

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Speaker 8: era where it's much more when you think about player advancement,

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Speaker 8: who gets called up, who gets drafted, who gets advanced.

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Speaker 8: It's a lot to do with metrics. It's not as

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Speaker 8: much like, oh, you hit three seventeen in the minors.

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Speaker 8: You look the part, you have, the data you have

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Speaker 8: and it sort of plays at the big league level.

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Speaker 8: And so it's not as much about like, oh, you

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Speaker 8: hit a certain number, and I think mis Roski is

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Speaker 8: the guy that has the arm. You're not worried about

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Speaker 8: era or what it could be. You're looking at a

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Speaker 8: guy throwing one hundred and two miles an hour and

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Speaker 8: blowing Major leagu hitterers away.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, I hear it. Stug Gottlib Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Okay, let's go. Let's go over to the

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Speaker 1: American League. In your mind, biggest question the team, biggest

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Speaker 1: question heading into the second half of the season in

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Speaker 1: the American League is.

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Speaker 9: What as the whole league or by by team, by.

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Speaker 1: Like one team. Sorry that's on me.

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Speaker 8: Well, okay, Detroit Tigers is this is a team that

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Speaker 8: is just running people over and they're doing it in

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Speaker 8: a way they would never have said was going to

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Speaker 8: be the way, right they because we saw them opening

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Speaker 8: day A J. Hinchster manager was like, you know, we're

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Speaker 8: kind of run for prevention. We have a young team.

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Speaker 8: We're going to outpitch you and my thirteen guys are

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Speaker 8: going to beat your nine. Like that's that's how he

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Speaker 8: kind of laid it out. Well, they've ended up being

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Speaker 8: way better offensively, and you know, Riley Green just you know,

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Speaker 8: Baia is just you know, back from the dead and

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Speaker 8: you have just incredible performances offensively that you have the

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Speaker 8: question of can they sustain it. They're going to ask

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Speaker 8: that question from an offensive standpoint, So.

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Speaker 9: Do they go get a big bat?

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Speaker 8: So that's a big question for me, because they get

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Speaker 8: a big back like a O Suarez or someone like that.

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Speaker 8: Now you're looking at a team they're like, oh wait

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Speaker 8: a minute, that's that puts them in sort of Yankee land, right,

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Speaker 8: And and the Yankees still I think have tremendous you know,

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Speaker 8: their offense also could use Suarez as every other team,

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Speaker 8: but they they have those question marks if they stay

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Speaker 8: healthy and they have to pitch. But they have a

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Speaker 8: lot of experienced bats that are productive. So I see

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Speaker 8: them as much more stable on that side of the equation.

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Speaker 8: But the Tigers just they out maneuver you. They're they're

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Speaker 8: just really good. So I see those two teams, as

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Speaker 8: you know, in the in the category of punching at

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Speaker 8: each other.

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Speaker 9: And then do not forget the Houston.

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Speaker 8: Asters because they flat out pitch Hunter Brown not getting

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Speaker 8: out of enough love because it's Eric Scooble, who's great

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Speaker 8: watch out because they shut you down.

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Speaker 9: It's hard to score off for their bullpen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean circling back to the Tigers and struggle,

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Speaker 1: they get swept by the Mariners right for the break

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Speaker 1: and uh and they get they get some they got

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Speaker 1: they got tough road swing to start the second half

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Speaker 1: of the season. Doug, tell me about the site real quick,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Glendell.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, well, it's a it's a writing side. You know.

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Speaker 8: I came into the ESPN and other places by writing,

894
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Speaker 8: and uh, it's hard today to kind of have a

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Speaker 8: consistent sort of column because there's so much noise, there's

896
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Speaker 8: so much going on, and I wanted to get back

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Speaker 8: to the roots of writing consistently. And the thing is,

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Speaker 8: I wanted to share with an audience that I'm a

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Speaker 8: fan too, and we're all fans in this together. I

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Speaker 8: still love the game, and so I wanted to create

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Speaker 8: a place where I'm writing stories about the game that

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Speaker 8: aren't just like breaking news or hot topics, but just

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Speaker 8: about like the deeper dives into you know, experiences. So

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Speaker 8: whether it's you know, Pete Rose and getting you know,

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Speaker 8: a pathway to getting into the Hall of Fame, whether

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Speaker 8: today I'm going to write a piece about the color

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Speaker 8: Wars that were the seventies and eighties and all Star

908
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Speaker 8: games that were vibrant and colors and you know, I

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Speaker 8: talk about the bulletin board that was over my bed

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Speaker 8: that had an autograph picture of Bob Boone and I

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Speaker 8: just go back to, you know, stories that are just

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Speaker 8: personal with the humanity of the game at the center.

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Speaker 8: And most important, it's interactive. So I want to hear

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Speaker 8: from fans. I want to hear from people because I'm

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Speaker 8: a fan.

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Speaker 9: I'm just like.

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Speaker 8: Fanning out with everybody. And it's done well, you know,

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Speaker 8: and you can subscribe. It's a newsletter format, so you

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Speaker 8: go on, you enter your email and there's a free

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Speaker 8: subscription and if you love it, you can do the

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Speaker 8: paid and get some additional content. But you know, I'll

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Speaker 8: just welcome you into the world of Landol that's the

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Speaker 8: name of my town. Name kind of thing. And it's

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Speaker 8: about baseball. It's about fandom, but it's also where baseball

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Speaker 8: impacts way beyond things outside the lines.

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Speaker 1: Doug, you are the best man. I can't wait to

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Speaker 1: check out the site. I know you enjoy the game.

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Speaker 1: Let's do this again as the second half of the season

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Speaker 1: gets ready to get started. Thanks for our guest and

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 9: All right, Doug, thank you