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Speaker 1: Course Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. This classic

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Speaker 1: episode was produced by the team at Pandora.

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Speaker 2: What up, y'all, It's Laiyah from Team Supreme. Okay, So

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Speaker 2: it's June, and you know it is Black Music Month. Now,

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Speaker 2: This month and its cause was started by my godmother,

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Speaker 2: Dianna Williams, the legendary Kenny Gamble, and the great and

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Speaker 2: right back in nineteen seventy nine after being invited to

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Speaker 2: the White House along with the Black Music Association. Now,

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Speaker 2: the Black Music Association was a group of black folks

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Speaker 2: that were the best of the best of the music industry.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking record execs, I'm talking radio people, I'm talking artists.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking to everybody from Clarence Avon and Frankie Crocker

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Speaker 2: to Percy Sutton, everybody in the middle right. So they

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Speaker 2: all get invited to this big party on the White

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Speaker 2: House lawn June seventh, nineteen seventy nine. And before the

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Speaker 2: performances started, President Carter said many things addressing and reminding

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Speaker 2: people of the importance of black music. Monk, and one

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Speaker 2: of the things he said was end quote in may

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Speaker 2: ways the feelings of our own black citizens throughout the

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Speaker 2: history of our country has been accurately expressed in the music,

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Speaker 2: and it presents a kind of history of our nation

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Speaker 2: when you go back and see the evolution of black

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Speaker 2: music word. So we've spoken a lot about Black Music

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Speaker 2: Month on Questloud Supreme and this June we are running

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Speaker 2: a different episode from the QLs archives every single day

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Speaker 2: in the name Spirit and Cause of Black Music mom.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday we reran an interviewed with James M.

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Speaker 2: Today it is only right that we celebrate the amazing

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Speaker 2: vocalist to Watha Agi.

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Speaker 4: Su suprema Son subpremo roll call suprima soun subprimo, roll call,

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Speaker 4: subprima Sun Sun subprimo, roll call subprima Sun South, subprema.

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Speaker 5: You want your music to shine to Wathas who you call?

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Speaker 5: Yeah for so many credits, Yeah, let's name them all

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Speaker 5: right now. Uh, There's Norman Connors, Alphons, Maszoon, Phyllis Hymon, Nortim,

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Speaker 5: Michael Walden, Stephanie Mills, Gary Barts, Scritty Polity Chocolate, Patrice Chocolate,

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Speaker 5: Banks of Graham, Central Station, The Spinners, Luther vandros Irene Karra,

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Speaker 5: The BBQ Band, Michael Franks, Melbol Moore, Aretha Franklin, Linda Clifford,

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Speaker 5: Kenny Burke, Dinah Ross, lou Rass, Scritty, Polity, Phronsie Thornton,

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Speaker 5: kashif Lelo, Thomas, Marcus Miller, Michael Wykoff, Frankie Valley, Lenny Kravitz,

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Speaker 5: Teddy Pendergrass, Roy Aires, Algibo, James Ingram, Tyrone Brunson, Chromeo, Kiera,

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Speaker 5: Gregory Hines, Eric Clapton, Scritty Polity, Rindy Houston, ROBERTA Flat,

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Speaker 5: Jennifer Holiday, Talking Heads, she Jackie McGee, Joe Cocker, Deon Warrick,

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Speaker 5: You'll announced, Scratch, Bob James, David Lee, Roth, David Lee, Roth, Celin,

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Speaker 5: Dion r Kelly Sting, Sondra st Victor, David Bowie, Roxy Music, Beyonce, Ray,

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Speaker 5: Charles m to May and Yes, Ladies and gentlemen, Screaty.

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Speaker 6: Supremo, Supremo, Roll, Suprema, Suprema Roll.

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Speaker 5: My name is Fante, Yeah, quest Love Supreme Yeah, where

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Speaker 5: we sit with legends.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, welcome to my dream.

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Speaker 6: Sumo Supremo, Roll, Suprima, Suprema Roll Call.

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Speaker 8: My name is Sugar. Yeah, I'm so glad you came. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: but did you really?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Sing on free Frame.

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Speaker 9: Premo roll Call Suprema SI Supremo roll.

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Speaker 10: Call, Hey Bill, Yeah, no doom and gloom. Yeah, shout

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Speaker 10: out to Fante. Yeah, renovated the bathroom.

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Speaker 6: Sun Supremo roll Call Suprema S Suprema roll.

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Speaker 11: Bill is back Yeah with another rhyme crime. Yeah, Quest

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Speaker 11: Love Supreme. Yeah, it's prime time.

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Speaker 6: Rome Suprema Sun Supremo roll call Suprema su su Supremo.

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Speaker 12: Roll Here's yeah and mister Yeah we're about to start.

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Speaker 12: Yeah that's too hot.

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Speaker 9: Upremo rhyme Supremo roll call.

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Speaker 13: My name is to Waa. Yeah, I'm here to pleasure.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: One thing you left out?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I work with.

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Speaker 9: Lo Supreme Supremo Supremeo.

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Speaker 6: Roll Supremo Supremo roll call Supremo Supremeo.

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Speaker 14: Brought you.

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Speaker 7: Yes, Bill, Okay, I said.

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Speaker 5: I wasn't wait I actually I have to say that

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Speaker 5: I missed the strong and robust the Quest Love Supreme

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Speaker 5: because there was one point where it's just me and Steve.

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Speaker 5: Wait why Okay. Yeah, it was one roll call where

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Speaker 5: was just like the three of us Supreme and it

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Speaker 5: was over ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 14: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Another exciting episode of Quest Love Supreme. Awaits us. We

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Speaker 5: have Team Supreme. Uh yeah, how's the bathroom, man? The

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Speaker 5: bathroom is good. My wisdom teeth are even better. That's

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Speaker 5: what set me down. I had to get them taken

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Speaker 5: out too, and it sat me down. It went terribly bad. Really,

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Speaker 5: I developed a dry socket.

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Speaker 7: What is that for? A socket?

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Speaker 5: Is when like they pull your tooth and normally clotforms

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Speaker 5: to like as it heals. But if the clock comes

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Speaker 5: have raw nerves and bone exposed. You have to like

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Speaker 5: you all your food on the other side of your

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Speaker 5: It was just in sure apple sauce, oatmeal, and I

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Speaker 5: lost nine pounds. You look great, Thank you man. My

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Speaker 5: summer body getting in Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Everyone else okay house the Sugar networks. Do you see

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Speaker 7: they got stickers? Yeah, sugar Sugar Network.

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Speaker 14: We're not We are not messing around anymore.

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Speaker 3: Because you know we don't have swag there.

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Speaker 10: Sugar Network is global. Yeah, global, it's amazing cosmic. Well,

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Speaker 10: ladies and gentlemen. I pretty much said it all in

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Speaker 10: my role call, but it's yeah.

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Speaker 5: Our guest today is probably one of the most connected

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Speaker 5: artists to the world of music. There's literally any is

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Speaker 5: there anyone you have not worked with?

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Speaker 7: What was the Close? But no cigar?

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Speaker 5: Because this is your studio work, this is live. You

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Speaker 5: sang with everybody.

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Speaker 15: True, I wanted to work with Bonnie Rape, but she

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Speaker 15: doesn't use female.

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Speaker 7: Welcome to one and only.

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Speaker 5: Really, my my dream is to just name an artist and.

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Speaker 7: You give me a story. But I actually want to

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Speaker 7: know where were you? First?

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Speaker 15: First things, first born in Pittsburgh, raised in Newark, New Jersey.

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Speaker 7: You were born in Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 13: Don't ask me about it. I don't know.

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Speaker 7: We left you. I was like one, No, oh damn,

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Speaker 7: I was over to a connection.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 5: I I did a hard time at uh the Carlton

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Speaker 5: House back when that was your chruggy.

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Speaker 7: Your shoulders station square doesn't mean anything to.

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Speaker 13: Newark, Newark, I know Newark Citywark.

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Speaker 7: So your family was from Pittsburgh and they migrated to Newark.

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Speaker 15: Yes, Pittsburgh by way of Alabama, Talladega, Birmingham.

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Speaker 7: Day and night. Okay, yeah, I love that.

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Speaker 14: That's what people know about.

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Speaker 7: Okay, what how many siblings do you have?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 13: What was your I have two older sisters. I'm the baby.

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Speaker 7: Did they sing as well?

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Speaker 15: No one sings in the family. Wow, No, my father hums.

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Speaker 7: So wow. Okay, we never had this as an area before.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, everyone comes to a musical family in the show.

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Speaker 5: Except so, how did music enter your life if your

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Speaker 15: Weren't well church of course, and I always listened to

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Speaker 15: listening to pop radio, R and B radio in Newark

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Speaker 15: and you know, constantly radio and books.

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Speaker 13: That was it for me.

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Speaker 5: Was it tolerated in the household because normally the common

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Speaker 13: Oh no, no, no, it wasn't like that.

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Speaker 15: We had the ink spots and Ruth Brown and you know,

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Speaker 7: So they were music fans, but they were fans.

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Speaker 15: But no no singers in no talent, well, no singers.

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Speaker 7: Musical with a with an F.

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Speaker 16: I was saying that that that's uh, the the the.

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Speaker 5: The magnit magnitude of her presence. When she walked in

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Speaker 5: And he just confirmed, He's like, yes, anything, I'm not

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Speaker 5: gonna correct ms. Twatha, So uh, with with your like

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Speaker 5: how did music enter your life?

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Speaker 5: With I meant outside of church as far as you

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Speaker 15: And church foremost, foremost. And I played for my church

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Speaker 5: What period of what year? What period did you go through?

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Speaker 5: Uh Howard at Howard?

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Speaker 15: I went to Howard from seventy one to seventy five.

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Speaker 15: I graduated in seventy five with a bachelor's degree in

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Speaker 5: Okay, everyone that I know that is going to Howard

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Speaker 5: in the seventies has the best stories ever. Like Greg

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Speaker 5: Tate tells me about seeing uh uh Hathaway.

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Speaker 7: No, what's her name? ROBERTA.

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Speaker 5: Miles Davis is uh Betty Davis, Betty Davis a homecoming

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Speaker 15: Hampton at Hampton Auditorium, uh Crampton, cram Crampton Auditorium. Let

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Speaker 15: for homecoming. Pharaoh Sanders Miles Davis and what for for homecoming?

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Speaker 7: What was the holiday like for real? Doing to shoot

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Speaker 5: So it was was that choice for you guys? It

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Speaker 15: Well, no, no, no, I was into gospel music. It

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Speaker 13: I didn't go to see him.

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Speaker 15: I never went to a party at Howard I knew. No,

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Speaker 13: What what I would do was in my dormitory. We

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Speaker 15: I would be in there playing gospel music and people

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Speaker 13: What dorm was the Meridian Hill, Meridian Hill off campus.

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Speaker 5: Any I know uptown any pre and to me, uh,

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Speaker 5: Donnie Hathaway interactions whatsoever?

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Speaker 15: Donnie was Donnie was had graduated by the time I

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Speaker 15: was there for Berta and Donnie had graduated. But when

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Speaker 15: I was there, when like I said, gospel was my roots.

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Speaker 15: Richard Smallwood was there. Richard Smallwood sang in a group.

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Speaker 15: I sang in a group with Richard Smallwood and and

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Speaker 15: Angela Winbush was also in my class.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, it's hot tea good good.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, can you explain hot too?

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Speaker 15: Oh well, look, we had no imagination. It was Tawatha

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Speaker 15: a phenomenal, phenomenal pianist, you know, on par with Richard

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Speaker 15: small Wood or any classical pianist you would ever want

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Speaker 15: to to hear. She's she lived in Sacramento now. So

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Speaker 15: it was Tawatha Elet, Angela Shelton Beckton, who is.

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Speaker 13: Now he's on Broadway.

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Speaker 15: He does Uh, he's music director for Audra McDonald and uh,

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Speaker 15: let me see who else. Tawatha let, Angela and Richard

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Speaker 5: Okay, what was the gospel circuit? Light like, were you

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Speaker 5: Any notable churches or notable acts that we were knowing

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Speaker 15: Oh, no, you know you're talking. This is nineteen seventy one,

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Speaker 13: So no, I can tell you people that I liked,

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Speaker 7: We'll not work with them. But I'm just saying, like.

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Speaker 13: Well, who were popular at the time.

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Speaker 7: Did you like?

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Speaker 14: Oh?

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Speaker 15: I liked well, of course the Hawkens, Walter Hawkens, not

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Speaker 7: So those church services were Oh, but we had a band.

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Speaker 13: And if you've done your research you would know.

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Speaker 15: like nineteen years old and I sound like Minnie Mouse?

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Speaker 15: Was that your first was that was my first recording?

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Speaker 7: Really?

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Speaker 16: Yes?

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Speaker 14: I was so excited we can find this.

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Speaker 13: Oh, I don't know if you would find.

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Speaker 7: Oh, trust me. We were digging it.

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Speaker 13: Up Star Bethlehem Church of got in Christ, real youth choir. Yes,

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Speaker 5: When I always wanted to know when churches visit other churches,

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Speaker 7: Atmosphere is intimidating? Are they sitting there?

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Speaker 13: You know you had to go and do your thing.

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Speaker 15: You know it was competition, but healthy competition, healthy competent.

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Speaker 13: Did you find it?

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Speaker 7: Come on?

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Speaker 16: Now?

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Speaker 7: What's her name?

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Speaker 10: Oh?

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Speaker 15: As long as you don't have a picture, because everybody

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Speaker 15: had afros? All you said it was like lollipops, beautiful afro. No,

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Speaker 15: But I mean, is it it was a battle?

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Speaker 7: Is it intimidating at all?

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Speaker 11: Oh?

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Speaker 15: No, You accept a challenge because that was healthy. That

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Speaker 5: Okay, so we found uh that's Atophone last Supreme Exclusive.

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Speaker 7: Yes, nineteen year old star him you youth choir. Yes,

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Speaker 7: and this is seventy one.

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Speaker 13: Early seventies.

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Speaker 7: And this was recorded in the in the church.

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Speaker 12: You know, it was live.

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Speaker 13: Everything was live. We couldn't go to a studio.

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Speaker 5: Hm everybody, Yeah, I shot that sh.

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Speaker 7: That's a looke. Look tell yourself, no news is good news. Wow.

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Speaker 13: Yeah you can hear the remix.

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Speaker 14: The base is so loud.

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Speaker 14: I wish I went to.

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Speaker 13: Wait it was it was a it was a set

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Speaker 7: Do you guys have to see? All right?

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Speaker 5: So we're sitting here at this table. It's like three

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Speaker 5: it just from the styles the standpoint. I'm listening to it.

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Speaker 10: But I also was thinking, wow, I really missed out

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Speaker 10: I think my left me budget friend. If every Sunday

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Speaker 10: I went to that as supposed.

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Speaker 7: What was the size of the ensemble, Like.

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Speaker 15: Let me see, it was maybe four piece uh band

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Speaker 7: So how do you.

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Speaker 5: Uh managed to to finagle your way into uh a

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Speaker 13: I was selected by the choir director, right.

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Speaker 5: But how's the choir director? Now the forty of you,

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Speaker 15: Well, you know, I guess I was a new girl

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Speaker 13: You know what I'm.

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Speaker 5: Trying to actually get at is I know that a

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Speaker 13: So I just want to what was the choir rehearsal

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Speaker 7: Did you know?

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Speaker 13: Service on Sunday? We would visit other churches.

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Speaker 7: I mean that was it wasn't rigorous rehearsal.

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Speaker 15: Oh no, no, no, no, no, not like that.

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Speaker 11: Okay, sorry, I just see another one of my favorite

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Speaker 7: Crystal Merton oh, yes she was.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, she went there to.

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Speaker 7: Love that.

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Speaker 3: I know you had a favorite gospel artist, Crystal.

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Speaker 13: Crystal Cool.

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Speaker 7: I grew up on Crystal. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So once, uh, you were done with Howard, what were

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Speaker 7: What was your major at Howard?

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Speaker 13: Music Education?

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Speaker 15: So then I called him to May who said, give

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Speaker 15: And I called him and says, well, you know, I

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Speaker 13: Would you like to sing?

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Speaker 15: It's like sure, And it got to the point where

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Speaker 13: A substitute teacher.

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Speaker 15: So it's like, I think I'll try this singing thing.

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Speaker 15: And I've done it ever since. And that's been like

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Speaker 7: What were sessions paying at that time? Oh, oh my god, was.

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Speaker 15: In nineteen seventy six, Yes, yes, it was sessions. Then

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Speaker 7: Okay, and that would be just for singing background.

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Speaker 13: That's just for background. Oh yeah, oh Lee, just more,

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Speaker 15: No, no, no, no, it wasn't a session a day.

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Speaker 7: Was it like a community of of you know?

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Speaker 15: Well, when I when I hooked up to May, No,

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Speaker 13: But I did get an opportunity.

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Speaker 15: To call uh Luther for a session because he had

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Speaker 13: His first few tours as a solo artist.

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Speaker 2: He seemed like he was one of those go to

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Speaker 15: He only knew and he did them, and he did

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Speaker 5: Side note, Bill, since you're connected to Sesame Street, did

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Speaker 7: I did the first two years.

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Speaker 3: What was he doing? Just singing?

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Speaker 7: Singing? What was it?

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Speaker 14: It was a group of him and Nile.

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Speaker 15: Him, Nile, Robin Clark, Fonzie Thornton, Nat adele yea all

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Speaker 15: of them. Oh yeah, because there are a lot of

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Speaker 15: Sesame Street also as a singer. As a singer, I

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Speaker 15: did like I am Chicken, hear me roar you know,

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Speaker 13: And I'm still getting royalty. I'm still getting royalties from that.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, good for you.

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Speaker 12: Can your mail stack must be fat every day like

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Speaker 12: it used to be like that.

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Speaker 15: Oh when I was rolling, Oh girl, you know, I

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Speaker 13: The checks to deposit, right, you know, it's like, oh,

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Speaker 15: I only have eight Yeah, and now I get checks

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Speaker 5: So when you're when you're grinding the pavement for these

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Speaker 15: And that's why I got into jingle singings, because they

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Speaker 5: that tight circle, because those are the names I always see, Sponte, Thornton,

444
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 5: Lannie and all.

445
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 7: Yes, So was it a first of all?

446
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 5: I mean, it's like six, six or seven of you

447
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 5: heavy hitters, but I know mostly background vocal background work

448
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 5: is requires three or four singers. Was it so much

449
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 5: work to go around that you didn't feel a certain

450
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 5: way if you lost the gig or like who determines, Like, okay,

451
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 5: for this phil Simon project, I'll see you you and

452
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 5: and you well.

453
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 15: For Phyllis and two May was the producer, and I

454
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 15: was a contractor, so I could call anyone I wanted, So.

455
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 7: Of course I got first.

456
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 15: I got first dips, I could call whoever I wanted

457
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 15: and whoever I got along with whoever I thought would

458
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 15: work musically for whatever song we were doing.

459
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 5: How much yeah, how much prep time does one have

460
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,199
Speaker 5: as a background singing? Because I almost feeling like the

461
00:25:55,240 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 5: prep pressure, no pressure is you're at half court and

462
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 5: you better sink this ball in or right. So have

463
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,199
Speaker 5: you had situations where you might take a chance on

464
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 5: a newbie I'd like to sing, and you.

465
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 15: Know that No, no, no, and for sure no, because

466
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 15: when whoever singing with me also represents me.

467
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 13: And I had a reputation of reputation to withhold.

468
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 15: And so if there was somebody new, I would work

469
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 15: with them on something else, but nothing. You know, I

470
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 15: couldn't bring them in on a on an a teen thing.

471
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 15: I couldn't do that.

472
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 7: But there are some how does the new jack sort

473
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 7: of get ushered in? Well? Did you usher in the

474
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 7: new jack?

475
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 15: I did, and I tried to do that, but of

476
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,439
Speaker 15: course during that time, people had other ideas about how

477
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 15: they thought they should be in the business, and after

478
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 15: a while they thought they.

479
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 13: Knew more than the person that was bringing them in.

480
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 15: And it's like, oh, I have to cut you off

481
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,360
Speaker 15: because you're not willing to learn.

482
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 13: You're not willing to learn.

483
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 15: You think you can come in with like everything out,

484
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 15: ass out, you know, chest out, And it's like that

485
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 15: doesn't doesn't work like that, because at the end of

486
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 15: the day, you have to be professional, you have to sing,

487
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,199
Speaker 15: you have to get along with people. And then and

488
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 15: for my work is I got a lot of referrals.

489
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 15: I never had a business card or a manager I

490
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 15: just got by on. You know, people wrote him out,

491
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 15: so that meant a lot to me. And you know,

492
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 15: you have to t MA always told me you have

493
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 15: to remember what you represent when you go out, and

494
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 15: so I tried to instill that in the singers that

495
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 15: I tried to bring up.

496
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 5: Who of the clientele that I mentioned, who is the

497
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 5: fondest memory of your of everyone that you work with,

498
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 5: who is your like?

499
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 7: Ah? That was I always have great sessions with no doubt.

500
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 15: Fontie Thornton, Fonzie Thornton. That's that's my That's that's my

501
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 15: ride to die.

502
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 5: Why is he so unlike he? He is everyone's go

503
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 5: to guy for singing. I know he had solo records, yes,

504
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 5: Why why was he such a close banown cigar? Like

505
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 5: he should have been a contender?

506
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 13: He do you always have to have the cigar?

507
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 14: No?

508
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 7: Well, okay.

509
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 15: On the other side, well, you know the thing is

510
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 15: everybody doesn't want to be in the front. I mean

511
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 15: I was happy just singing background, and I was happy

512
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 15: to sing a background.

513
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 13: It just so happened we had a song out that became.

514
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 15: Number one, and then I had to be out there.

515
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 15: But it's not that I couldn't handle it. I mean,

516
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 15: because that's from my church background. I can handle a crowd,

517
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 15: I can't handle audience. But you know that wasn't my

518
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 15: goal was not to be in the front.

519
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 5: Well okay, but in the case of Luther who started

520
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 5: out deep in the background and naturally became a star,

521
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 5: were there expectations for Phonzie Thornton to also following in

522
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 5: the footsteps to Well.

523
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 15: You know what, We all did sessions and then we

524
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 15: all had opportunities to do solo records, and then if

525
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 15: that's where it took us, then that's where we would go.

526
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 13: But if not, we could always.

527
00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 3: Still do that.

528
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 7: I was like, oh, well, okay, for.

529
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 13: Me, it was another project.

530
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 15: It was another project, and the thing was to get

531
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 15: the projects, get the union time in, get the you

532
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 15: know you know, yes, yeah.

533
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 2: So can you talk about what you love about background

534
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 2: versus being out in the front.

535
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 13: I love the support of it all.

536
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 15: I love seeing the band playing and everybody's participating, everybody's

537
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 15: making a contribution to make something whole. You know, whether

538
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 15: it's Lenny Kravitz out there, whether it's the Dave Matthews band,

539
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 15: who I absolutely adore.

540
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 13: It's like it's always a learning experience. I didn't have

541
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 13: to be in the front.

542
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 15: I enjoyed participating and making something and creating something that

543
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 15: the audience was gonna love, so we didn't have I

544
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 15: didn't have to be in the front. I'd be so

545
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 15: happy singing behind the curtain as long as I getting

546
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 15: the same money.

547
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 5: Talk about it, do you prefer as far as when

548
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 5: you're doing session work in studio?

549
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 7: Is it is it mostly separate sessions? Are you in

550
00:29:58,320 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 7: front of the artists?

551
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 5: Like sometimes I'll call background session or whatever and nobody's around.

552
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 7: Just meet the producer and the.

553
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 13: Artist doesn't have to be there. The artists doesn't have

554
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 13: to be there.

555
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 15: Because when I was coming up, the producers knew what

556
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 15: it was supposed to be. You know, there weren't ten

557
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 15: different people doing the sign doing ten different things. The

558
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 15: producer knew what the parts, or the producer and the

559
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 15: contractor because usually the contractor was also the vocal arranger.

560
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 13: So so in my case, I would hook up.

561
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 15: With him two Man and Reggie to see what they wanted,

562
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 15: and you know, they get the song and you know,

563
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 15: we create some background parts and then I'd go in

564
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 15: and teach the parts to the singers and then we

565
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 15: you know, go on, Okay.

566
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 5: Who was the hardest What was your hardest challenge as

567
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 5: a background singer as far as someone that you know

568
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,719
Speaker 5: is a hard task masker or songs that you had

569
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 5: to go over and over and over, take after take

570
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 5: after James Brown.

571
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 13: Well, that for me, that didn't.

572
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 15: The only time time that happened was when I was

573
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 15: doing the Songwriters Hall of Fame and we had, you know,

574
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 15: there might be ten people on the show, you know,

575
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 15: so we're we're in the house band, so we have

576
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 15: to learn all these background parts for everybody, right, and

577
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 15: then it's almost over and Barry Manilow comes in.

578
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 7: Someone has expectations and he.

579
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 13: Has a seventeen page intro.

580
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 15: You know, he's got we got seventeen pages of music

581
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 15: for his his his opening, and it's like, oh man,

582
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 15: it's and it's tomorrow.

583
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 13: The performance is tomorrow.

584
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 7: You read on site, no, okay, what that mean?

585
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 14: Say music?

586
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 15: People put I don't read, but I could spell because

587
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 15: because I used to do jingles, a lot of jingles,

588
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 15: and people would always tell me, you know, you have

589
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 15: to know how to read to do these jingles. And

590
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 15: then it's like what and the thing is if the

591
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 15: thing is only sixty seconds long. If I can't remember

592
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 15: something that's sixty seconds long, then I shouldn't even be here.

593
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 7: So you know, my parent, I'm sorry, mom My dad

594
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 7: lies to me.

595
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 5: No, he was like, you know, real musicians and you know,

596
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 5: you got to learn to read and d d and

597
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 5: I'm in the case of Quincy Jones, he would also say, like,

598
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 5: it helps to read and put something in front of you,

599
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 5: But I always felt that those who read didn't something.

600
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 15: Something was missing and it was and it was never

601
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 15: whatever they wrote was it was they We never ended

602
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 15: up singing what was on the paper you put your

603
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 15: never never because it's like it's too sterile. And you know,

604
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 15: some people's like, well you you can't change any of

605
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 15: my music. It's like, well, okay, we'll sing it, but

606
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 15: it's not gonna sound right.

607
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 2: So the option is to demo or to read it, right?

608
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 2: Is that what you're saying, Like, either you can hear

609
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 2: a demo or you have to read it.

610
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 13: You should be able to do both.

611
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 15: But the thing is some people who just read, you know,

612
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 15: some people read fly Doo doo.

613
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 13: You know what I'm saying.

614
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,959
Speaker 5: But it's like, yeah, I almost feel like I was

615
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 5: as a youngster, I was told like, you won't make

616
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 5: it unless you read, Like.

617
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 13: At least it's good to know. But I haven't had to.

618
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 10: Use it rummers for no reason at all. Yeah, but

619
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 10: if you're if you're reading, you're listening. I feel like

620
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 10: that's the big thing. It's like if you're too focused

621
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 10: on reading the piece of music. Because I can read

622
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 10: music and I.

623
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 7: And I suck as a musician.

624
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 10: Was terrible hears because I didn't. I didn't grow up

625
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:14,959
Speaker 10: as a person who listened to things. I grew up

626
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 10: like it was visual with me, Like I saw the

627
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 10: notes on the page and that's what. So now when

628
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 10: people are like, what quarters that, I'm like, nope, nope, he.

629
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 5: Has a non reader. I'm programmed to absorb like long phrases.

630
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 7: Yes, that's what you're great at.

631
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 14: Yeah, I'm not, thank you, just not.

632
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 13: This is my confession.

633
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 5: I admitted, so of your what what were some notable

634
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 5: jingles that you've done that we might know, Oh.

635
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 15: Burger King, Kentucky Fried Chicken, when the airlines had individual songs?

636
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 2: No, no way, that's too early, right No, no, no

637
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 2: to that was you No, no, no, that was.

638
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,719
Speaker 15: Was mostly group stuff, you know, but Burger King. I

639
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 15: did have a like a solo, okay. And then but

640
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 15: my first foray intol like loving jingles, was hearing Philisheim

641
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 15: and singing.

642
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 13: A Burger King commercially, she said, and she was singing.

643
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 15: It was like ooh that hot and sizzling bacon. It

644
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 15: was a bacon cheeseburger. It was she did a jazz

645
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 15: you know what I'm talking about.

646
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 7: It was for mc d l T.

647
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 13: I think it was Burger King. I remember it was

648
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 13: a fast food.

649
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 5: I remember, okay, okay, I remember thinking about the invested.

650
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 7: McDonald was.

651
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 11: My favorite favorite commercial, straight up all facts.

652
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 13: I got moonlight in my head.

653
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 2: That was.

654
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 7: By day.

655
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 5: So I would take it that you're one of those

656
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 5: singers that you know that you can dissect within four

657
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 5: seconds even someone's speaking voice, if if they could sing

658
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 5: or not sing, like just based on or that.

659
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 7: Who are your who are your idols?

660
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 5: As far as not favorites, like oh I love this record,

661
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 5: but as far as singing, like who is your You're

662
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 5: Michael Jordan.

663
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 15: You're you know Michael Jordan's singing would be any of

664
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 15: the Clark sisters.

665
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 13: Oh wow, okay, any of the Clark sisters.

666
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, I just saw my first Clark Sisters show like

667
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 7: two weeks ago.

668
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 13: Man, did you enjoy it?

669
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 5: Snoop brought them out, Yeah, gospel in essence and it

670
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 5: was amazing.

671
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 3: You gotta played a dance record in you'll mix sometimes.

672
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 7: So yeah, all right.

673
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 15: Besides the Clark Sisters, I like the Clark Sisters. I

674
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 15: like DJ Rogers, Yeah, remember yeah, DJ Rogers I like

675
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 15: And these are like not not like the famous famous people, uh,

676
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 15: but they're famous anyway.

677
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 13: Let's say DJ Rogers Karen Clark.

678
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 15: I like all younger woman mis letusy, miss lettus.

679
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 13: She's a she's a real she's she's good, She's really

680
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 13: really good.

681
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 15: It is easy for her. That's that's the talent.

682
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 13: But I also like.

683
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,760
Speaker 15: Richard Smallwood even though I you know, I went to school,

684
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 15: I went to school with him. But he's just such

685
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 15: a talented singer. But he doesn't sing as much as

686
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 15: you know. You hear his songs, but you don't hear

687
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 15: him singing that much. But he's a great singer. I

688
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 15: also love I love Marvin Marvin Gaye nineteen seventy five.

689
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,720
Speaker 15: I want you any cut on that album. It's just amazing.

690
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 15: I like Leon Ware, which is like almost the same,

691
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 15: the same thing. Yeah, and who else love Little Jimmy Scott,

692
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 15: A Sarabon, Doug, Jene Krn, Jeane Karn. But the jazzy stuff,

693
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 15: the jazz stuff with Doug and Doug and Jean Doug and.

694
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 17: Jane Karn and uh oh yeah, so how how how

695
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 17: influential is I know that you were committed to gospel

696
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 17: and yeah, but uh, as far as jazz is.

697
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 7: Concerned, how how influential is that?

698
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 15: And oh no, no, no, no, no, no, it's it

699
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 15: all depends on if it's somebody that I like, It

700
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 15: doesn't matter what they're singing. Uh. It could be jazz,

701
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 15: it could be it could be country, it could be anything.

702
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 15: So I listened to a lot of music all the time.

703
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 15: That's all I did.

704
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 13: Read books and listen listen to the radio.

705
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 15: So whether it was W A B C or W

706
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 15: in New York or cousin Russie, or whether it was

707
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 15: a W any W which played like Frank Sinatra and

708
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 15: you know it was the guy uh.

709
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 13: I left my Tony Bennett. You know, I listened to

710
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 13: all of that.

711
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 15: So I would incorporate all of that into what I

712
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 15: was trying to do. So I took a little bit

713
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 15: from everybody and you didn't try to and just made

714
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 15: my own gumbo.

715
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:32,720
Speaker 5: So what was the proposition to join, uh the into

716
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 5: may Bind When you guys first started, I think my

717
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 5: I don't know if it wasn't In Search of Rainbow.

718
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 5: It was the eighty album that came out in nineteen eighty.

719
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 5: You guys were on Soul Train.

720
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 7: Yeah, so.

721
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 13: I wasn't doing anything else.

722
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 15: I needed something to do and if I could make

723
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 15: a few coins, you know, and if I could support

724
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 15: myself and doing this something that I realized that I loved.

725
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 15: You know, It's like, well, then this is what I

726
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 15: should be doing, you know, and just luckily. I mean,

727
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 15: but I you know, you know, your parents always tell

728
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 15: you you have to have something to fall back on.

729
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 13: That's why you went to school.

730
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 15: But you know, by the time I needed to fall

731
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 15: back on something, it was way too late for me

732
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 15: to be teaching. So I mean then I just went

733
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 15: to the next adventure I call adventure in my life.

734
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 15: So either it was singing background, it was doing jingles,

735
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,720
Speaker 15: It was going on tour with Brian Ferry and Roxy Music,

736
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 15: which was the first time I went out of the country.

737
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 13: It's like I'm a girl from New York. You know.

738
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 15: When I checked into my room in England, it's like

739
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 15: I thought I had Brian's room.

740
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 13: The room was so big. I mean, I didn't know.

741
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 13: I didn't know.

742
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 15: I'm just the lowly background singer. So it's like, you know,

743
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 15: it's an adventure. My life has been an adventure, and

744
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 15: every group that I've worked with it it's taken me

745
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 15: to bigger and better places.

746
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 5: So we've had James and to me on the on

747
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 5: the show. Yeah, previously, yeah, I always. I know that

748
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 5: you also work with Reggie Lucas, his writing partner. Can

749
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 5: you describe, you know, because I don't know what was

750
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 5: Reggie like to work with.

751
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 15: As far as Reggie, we called Reggie Lucas. We gave

752
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 15: everybody a name. We called Reggie Edgy Edgie Lucas. He

753
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 15: was constantly like twirling his hair trying to get get

754
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 15: stuff done, you know, twirling his his frog, trying to

755
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 15: get stuff done.

756
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 13: He played the guitar and was like, why is it

757
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 13: so loud, Reggie, why are you playing it so loud?

758
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 13: You know, it's like the guitar.

759
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 15: But you know, but then I realized he was definitely

760
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 15: one ear. I didn't know, so why didn't know, didn't know,

761
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 15: didn't know. But Reggie was cool and he and them

762
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 15: too may they worked well together. So and I was

763
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 15: just there. I was there for every single session. It

764
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 15: was so new to me. I would sit on the

765
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 15: sofa at Sigma Sound while they were tracking every song

766
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 15: that they had written, and it's like, oh my god,

767
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,280
Speaker 15: I can't believe I'm sitting here watching this stuff being created,

768
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 15: and then for years later for it to still stand.

769
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 13: You know, that's that's you know, that's.

770
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 7: You were there for, like the beginnings of Closer. Yeah,

771
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 7: you know, you describe it.

772
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 15: You know, how to love me because I used to

773
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 15: sing the reference I sing the reference vocals for each

774
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 15: artist that they produced, so you know, I was pretending like, Okay,

775
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 15: you know I'm not gonna be in the front, but

776
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 15: this is going to be my chance to pretend I'm

777
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 15: at the front.

778
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 13: So I sing my little song, sing for Stephanie, sing

779
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 13: for Phyllis. You know, it was it was great.

780
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 5: He told us that one of his artists followed her

781
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 5: to the t uh, that that she demoed the song,

782
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 5: and that uh they were they were so impressed with

783
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 5: your performance.

784
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 7: I was. It wasn't Phyllis, it wasn't forget the song.

785
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 13: Oh it's too hard.

786
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 15: Stephanie and Stephanie and I sang two Hearts because we

787
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 15: had to, you know, put the song down for Teddy

788
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 15: to hear, and so Stephanie and I went in and

789
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 15: sang two hearts.

790
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 13: And it was like you were, yeah, well I wrote

791
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 13: that song.

792
00:41:58,280 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 14: Yeah.

793
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 13: So it's like, you know, I'm singing.

794
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 15: At first, I sang the whole thing, and then they

795
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 15: decided to make it a duet, you know. And then

796
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 15: because Teddy was like a you're gonna do this duet

797
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 15: with Teddy and and Stephanie. So it's like, okay, now

798
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 15: let's do the reference vocals. So Stephanie and I went

799
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 15: in and sang, and it was the battle Royale.

800
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 13: I loved it.

801
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 15: I loved it, and I have so much respect for

802
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 15: her because it was like, okay, two little girls, two

803
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 15: short girls, two munchkins at the mic, and it's like dump,

804
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 15: it's getting higher and higher and high, and it's getting

805
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 15: more intense and more intense.

806
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 13: It's like, oh, it was.

807
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 15: A heavyweight beout, and it's like yes, but but we

808
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 15: both wanted it was like much respect because people don't

809
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 15: do that anymore. It was, it was great, and nobody

810
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,280
Speaker 15: can find the tape.

811
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 13: Nobody can find the tape. It's like, where is the tape?

812
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 11: Was?

813
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 7: Casey might just need to have you to re recorded.

814
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 13: I'm down for that because Stephanie's my girl. Oh Stephane,

815
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 13: my girl.

816
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 12: Supreme compilations.

817
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 15: Look, Stephanie Mills and Philip Hymon, the big ups to

818
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,720
Speaker 15: them because they were the most amazing people on stage.

819
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 15: They gave great performances and it's Stephanie still doing it.

820
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 5: So with Well, now now you got confused. No no, no, no, well,

821
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 5: because the thing is is that only in movies I

822
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 5: see people recording tandem, like at the same time. Oh yeah,

823
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 5: And I always say to myself, oh, I'd never do that.

824
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 7: I have them do it separate. But then I'm like,

825
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 7: wait a minute.

826
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 15: You get the vibe from the other person, you get

827
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 15: the vibe from the other person, You gotta you gotta

828
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:35,919
Speaker 15: have somebody standing there.

829
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 13: They gotta be singing.

830
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 5: So y'all always like I do stuff alone.

831
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,760
Speaker 7: Imagine it sounds like in my head.

832
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,720
Speaker 15: Because we'd be tracking the songs and I'd be singing

833
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 15: and singing. The reference while the band is playing, and

834
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 15: I do always come up with here comes the bridge,

835
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 15: so they know when the bridge was coming in, you know,

836
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 15: like yeah, So I mean I love singing with singing

837
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 15: off of somebody. I mean, you know, you gotta, you know,

838
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 15: you gotta have something to bounce off of.

839
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 2: Who's your other favorite bouncer outside of Stephanie most Worthy?

840
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 13: She's most most Worthy? I love her. Let's say Luther

841
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 13: Luthor Luther.

842
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 7: What's it like working with Luther?

843
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 5: Because I there's there's there's only one clip on YouTube

844
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 5: of which he's teaching his background singers different parts, Like

845
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 5: I think that Adeley had a camera running and this

846
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 5: during the maybe the night I felt loved people, it

847
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 5: was like yeah, I felt like two hands were on

848
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 5: the on the camera.

849
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 7: Like the thing front. But it was it was amazing

850
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:46,760
Speaker 7: to watch.

851
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 5: But then I don't know with I mean, musicians are

852
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 5: intimidating enough.

853
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 7: How Luther was a he was for real, like even

854
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 7: we have Michael was Michael Brown.

855
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 15: Yeah, he was saying like the engineer yeah on the show.

856
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 7: So yeah, like.

857
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 5: Was he is level of perfection, which is something that

858
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 5: I don't think even exists today.

859
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,760
Speaker 7: It's almost like you're one and done. But it was supreme.

860
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 15: It was supreme, and everybody came in knowing that it

861
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 15: was going to be you know, it's going to be

862
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,959
Speaker 15: some next level stuff, you know, But.

863
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 7: Is it hard?

864
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 5: Is it hard when someone graduates to that next level

865
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 5: and then they have to because I'm certain that no

866
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 5: one starts off with demands and I want it done

867
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 5: the right way. And but is it different relating to

868
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 5: someone when they're on a certain level and then they

869
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 5: graduate to a next level and then.

870
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 13: Well, well you know what.

871
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 15: We were there to see that, and it was like

872
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 15: we were all growing.

873
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 13: I'm just part.

874
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 15: I'm just happy to be happy to have been a

875
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 15: part of that family because we are all still close

876
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 15: to this day of those who are left. But Luther

877
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 15: had high expectations, but then so did I Cause it's like,

878
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 15: I'm coming in, I'm going to give you like two

879
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 15: hundred percent because you know, I know I can bring it,

880
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 15: So challenge me to do what you want and to

881
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 15: give you the sound that you want. And Luther knew

882
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 15: exactly what each person could do and could not do,

883
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 15: and so it's like, okay, ta Watha, do you want

884
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 15: to sing first? You want to sing second? I like

885
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 15: to sing second, because I like to push push the soprano,

886
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:40,919
Speaker 15: so so Cissy, Miss Cissy Houston would be singing the top,

887
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 15: I'm singing under her. Then we'd have Oh my god,

888
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 15: who Cindy. Cindy came in later, Cindy and then Lisa

889
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,919
Speaker 15: came in later. As a matter as a matter of fact,

890
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 15: Lisa replaced me because Juicy Food did come out and

891
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,959
Speaker 15: I had to go, So Lisa and then oh my god.

892
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 15: It's like it the level of expertstation was high. But

893
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 15: we all came in there knowing that, you know, we

894
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 15: were special to be there because he selected us to sing.

895
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 7: Did you ever tour with him as well? Or just

896
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 7: I did?

897
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 15: I did the first couple of tours with with Luther.

898
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 15: As a matter of fact, there's a clip of us

899
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 15: on Saturday Night Live. We have on friends jumpsuits.

900
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 13: Okay, yeah, yeah.

901
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 7: So was his?

902
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 5: Was his stage presentation? Like I I think by the

903
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 5: time after Busybody, No, No, No, the NFL.

904
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 7: In Love always for oh, after the album, After.

905
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 5: The NFL in Love was next, you know, after that's

906
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 5: when I first seen him. Then his presentation on the

907
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 5: next level the ball and everything. Did you guys have

908
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 5: to go through that rigorous like.

909
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 13: Well by then, also, let me tell you this about Luther. Luther.

910
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 15: Uh, I wanted to audition to be in Luther's group.

911
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 15: So this is when I had met him where I'd

912
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 15: called him for some sessions and he said, you know,

913
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 15: you know, looking for some people. I called his manager

914
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 15: and he says, no, it wasn't say his name is

915
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 15: David Cravat, And he said, well, how tall are you?

916
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 15: And it's like, what difference does that make? He said, well,

917
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 15: Luther has a height requirement. So I couldn't sing on

918
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 15: stage with Luther by the at that time, because he

919
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 15: would have four people on stage, but you know, they

920
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 15: would all they would all.

921
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 13: Be tall, and they'd have to look a certain.

922
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 15: Way because you know he's going to have like the

923
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 15: ball downs and stuff, you know.

924
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 13: But then he also had a set of singers in.

925
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 15: The pit, right, so I'd be in the pit, sitting

926
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 15: on the stool, still looking fabulous. But you know, in

927
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 15: the pit, are you still dressed to the nines like

928
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,439
Speaker 15: the ones that are on the stage. Well, we didn't

929
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 15: have ballgowns on, but we had fabulous suits on. You know,

930
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 15: just that was a requirement and you know, and every

931
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 15: night after each show, you know, because he'd had those

932
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 15: like the crystals on the stone on the ball gowns,

933
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 15: they'd come up and sweep the stage to get the.

934
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 13: Crystals that falling off.

935
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 15: Too much much, It's just much so glitters you got

936
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 15: to sweet and put back on.

937
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 5: So speaking of juicy fruit, yes, now, I mean no,

938
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 5: one can never plan on lightning strike and.

939
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 13: And told me unprepared.

940
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 5: So at the time when you were recording it, it

941
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 5: was just like, all right, another song for as you

942
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 5: just did it as an after thought.

943
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 7: Not really.

944
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 15: I was out on tour where Brian Ferry Roxy Music

945
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,919
Speaker 15: in Europe once again, and then you May called and said,

946
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 15: I got one more song for the album.

947
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 13: You got to come back do this song. Came back.

948
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 13: Did the song. It's like and did he tell you

949
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 13: about the candy kisses?

950
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 14: Oh?

951
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:51,720
Speaker 13: No, not the lyrics.

952
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 15: So this is about the recording. Oh he didn't tell

953
00:49:53,760 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 15: you about it? Tellas is my confession. Okay, So uh,

954
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 15: and two May wanted to try something different. He said,

955
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 15: I got this brilliant idea of we're going to sing

956
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:10,240
Speaker 15: this dry. It's like two May sing it dry, you know. Okay,

957
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 15: let's try it. It's like that.

958
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 7: It was terrible and to him singing it dry meaning

959
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 7: no nothing.

960
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 15: Just like you're singing into it like an empty pit,

961
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,240
Speaker 15: and it's like I can't feel anything because there's no reverb.

962
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,240
Speaker 15: It's no, the sound is not bouncing off of anything.

963
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,879
Speaker 15: But just try it if that had come out.

964
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,879
Speaker 7: So there's an initial version take where well we we.

965
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 15: I finally came up with a compromise. I said, let's

966
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 15: put the reverb on it while I'm singing, and then

967
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 15: you can take it off when you do it the

968
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 15: mix right, And that's what he did. Oh, because it

969
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 15: was like this is not gonna work. The dryness, it

970
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 15: doesn't work with the voice, so that I need to

971
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 15: have it.

972
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 13: Yes.

973
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 5: I always wanted to know, Like I meant, you know,

974
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 5: mostly work with rappers, so you know the monitor man

975
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 5: isn't no no, no, I mean you would think that

976
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 5: rappers are hard on my they're hard on manageorment with

977
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 5: having their volume up.

978
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, my heads right.

979
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 5: But you know it's only when I work with singers,

980
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 5: you know, they'll use like I wet my voice.

981
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 13: A little bit, could I have a little reverb? Please?

982
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 7: And I never knew.

983
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, okay, because I don't want effects

984
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 5: on but that helps you get into a.

985
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 7: Mind frame up.

986
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 13: Yes, exactly, I see.

987
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 5: So when it came out, at what point did you

988
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 5: realize like, holy crap, this is this is something.

989
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 13: Well, when Juicy came out, I was still on tour.

990
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 15: I was on tour with Roxy Music for like six

991
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 15: months and the record, the record came out here in

992
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,240
Speaker 15: the state, and so I would call home to see

993
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 15: how it was doing. You said, oh, well, it's like

994
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 15: number like eighty, you know, and then it was like sixty,

995
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,399
Speaker 15: and then you know, twenty, then ten.

996
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 13: Then he said, you know, gonna believe this, think it's

997
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 13: number one.

998
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 15: And the record became number one the week we Roxy

999
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 15: Music came to New York City and performed it at

1000
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 15: uh Radio City Music Hall, and they played it during

1001
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 15: the you know, during the intermission they and they played it.

1002
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 15: They played it so many times and too they said,

1003
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 15: woll you please have them stop?

1004
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 13: Yeah.

1005
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 15: So, I mean, you know, I was working while that

1006
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 15: was happening, so I didn't have to sit home and

1007
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 15: worry about it, because if I was at home, I'd

1008
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,359
Speaker 15: be worried about the record, how the record was doing.

1009
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 5: Since you guys weren't not a traditional band, But how

1010
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 5: is it able to even rise? I mean, besides the

1011
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 5: word and mouth of it all on the video, you'll

1012
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 5: weren't touring, Yeah, if you weren't actively like well.

1013
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 15: This was when the when the record first came out,

1014
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 15: and then after it was like number one for like

1015
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 15: eight weeks, it's like, well, we got to we got

1016
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 15: to get together and go out and play for the people,

1017
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 15: and that's what we did.

1018
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 13: That's what we did. But that that was the people's record.

1019
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 15: Juicy was the people's record because the record company was

1020
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 15: not behind that at all.

1021
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, he said the same thing at all. I believe that.

1022
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 13: Yeah, well I believe.

1023
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 7: That it that he was writing you were singing the

1024
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 7: first verse.

1025
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 13: Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah. He likes that. He likes that.

1026
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 15: He likes that pressure because it's like, look, I'm here

1027
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 15: for two days, okay, so let's let's do this, you know,

1028
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 15: I mean for.

1029
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 7: Two days, let's have a whole album completed.

1030
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 15: Well, no, no, it was just it was the last song.

1031
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 15: It was the last song, and then we had you know,

1032
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 15: Freddie Jackson sang on Juicy Fruit. It was one of

1033
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 15: his first sessions. Yeah, he was on the best discover

1034
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 15: discovery must have because it's like, I don't know why

1035
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 15: else he would be.

1036
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, he was, yeah before after the Mystic Marlin records.

1037
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,280
Speaker 13: Oh, I think this was before. This was before.

1038
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,919
Speaker 7: Wow, I did not know that.

1039
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 2: I have a really this is a frivolous question, but

1040
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 2: I just have to know. It's like old eighties gossip.

1041
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 2: Do you know if Freddy Jackson and Luther Van Draws

1042
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 2: really got along?

1043
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 15: Well, you know what I saw them at astron Assumption

1044
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 15: had an a picnic every year at the fourth of July,

1045
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 15: White white picnic.

1046
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 13: And they were there and they were just talking.

1047
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 15: I mean it was I didn't see any animosity, but

1048
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 15: you know that's that's I don't know what, but you

1049
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,399
Speaker 15: know what, that was two different lanes. That was two

1050
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,399
Speaker 15: different lanes. That was you know, that wasn't the same.

1051
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 12: They're very big presence, both of them.

1052
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, I see.

1053
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 5: Okay, Now due to your strong gospel convictions.

1054
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 7: Look, I was putting punishment for Juicy Food.

1055
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 5: If I was putting punishment for owning that record, how how.

1056
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 13: Must have must into I progressed.

1057
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 15: My thinking was more progressive changed, I mean.

1058
00:54:53,920 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 7: He was, but that was the album. Later they I took.

1059
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 13: My thinking. You know, I read a little more and

1060
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 13: it became a little more knowledgeable.

1061
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 7: Progress mister Wata was out there in the world.

1062
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 13: I'll say that I wasn't as sheltered. Let me put

1063
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 13: it on that rock.

1064
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 15: Music for six months, but King it was King Music

1065
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:30,359
Speaker 15: and Adrian Blue really and I didn't know who anybody was.

1066
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 7: Well. See that's that level background singing in the second.

1067
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 7: But the thing is is that with with Juicy Fruit.

1068
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 5: See, the thing is, Prince is a cult artist with

1069
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:50,240
Speaker 5: his own cult following. So it's almost like Prince became

1070
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 5: famous kind of an alternative land, whereas Juicy Fruit was

1071
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 5: such a straight ahead mainstream song that really really pushed

1072
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 5: the envelope. I mean minus I mean the double one

1073
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 5: time dres is like super obvious.

1074
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 7: So were you.

1075
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 15: I had no problem singing that song, I I.

1076
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 7: I was.

1077
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 15: I was just happy to be singing. I was happy

1078
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 15: to be singing. That was happy. But that the group,

1079
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 15: that the band was doing something. So it's like I'm

1080
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 15: just I'm happy to be singing. I'm on the road

1081
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 15: back with my band. It's like I'm cool. It's like whatever, whatever.

1082
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 5: Now the question that I really have is since you're

1083
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 5: such a stickler for perfection, vocal perfection.

1084
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 7: Let's let's go ten years later in nineteen ninety four. Now,

1085
00:56:51,760 --> 00:57:00,720
Speaker 7: come on a man dream. You know you hate Total

1086
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 7: slan Yes, background on Juicy, that's Total? Oh yeah, okay?

1087
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 7: Is that who that was?

1088
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 13: Do you know?

1089
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 15: I tried to find out who was singing that, and

1090
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 15: I could never find out because I never I never

1091
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 15: saw the credit because see, I'm like, I'm one of

1092
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 15: those people. If I sing on it, I want to

1093
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 15: see my name on it. You know, I'm the credits.

1094
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 13: But I never saw that, and I inquired Basic based.

1095
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 5: Some of those background vocals Ground not Toyo's BIG's Juicy

1096
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 5: were saying by Total, I did you know that?

1097
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 3: I know it's a different I don't understand.

1098
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 13: Well, I think that's wonderful.

1099
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 14: Oh yes, but let me.

1100
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 11: No.

1101
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 7: But this is the thing. Though I analyzed it, and

1102
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 7: all right, me and Boss Bill's.

1103
00:57:56,440 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 5: Battle, it's probably second only to post nineteen eighty eight

1104
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 5: Prince material.

1105
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 3: As far as our war is a concern, who's on

1106
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 3: what side?

1107
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 9: Total?

1108
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 5: I like Total, but fur the Total album the second one.

1109
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 7: I didn't said I didn't like Total, but this.

1110
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 5: Is the thing I figured Steve fig total cereal.

1111
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 7: It was coming. I don't. But what I'm saying is that.

1112
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 5: And and analyzing that song years later, I think the

1113
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 5: regularness of their back they sounded like they sound like.

1114
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 7: Totally right, and I think that's what worked. I think

1115
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 7: that's what that was like.

1116
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 3: In my mind about to play it, but you're not right.

1117
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 5: No, I'm in no you.

1118
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 7: Play if you won't mean I'm just saying.

1119
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 5: Did you sound like did you feel a certain way

1120
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 5: about like kind of pitch?

1121
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 16: Well?

1122
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 15: You know what I thought. First of all, it's like,

1123
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 15: why didn't they ask us to do it? That was

1124
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 15: my first question. But then it's like, okay, it's it's

1125
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 15: a different time. It's like so many years later, it's

1126
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 15: the next generation.

1127
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 7: Just to jump in. A lot of times people think

1128
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 7: you're gonna say.

1129
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 13: No, yes, Well nobody asked, all right.

1130
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 7: This is this is how we connected.

1131
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 5: Because once I realized, I mean, I've seen you a

1132
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 5: billion times in the thirty Rock building sing on other people,

1133
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 5: and every time I didn't know that was you.

1134
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 7: And then once you came in with Lenny Kravitz, You're like,

1135
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 7: why are we working together? Even?

1136
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 5: And then in my mind I was just like she

1137
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 5: knows one of us, Like, wait, you've heard of me too.

1138
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 5: It was like, wait, you come down to my level

1139
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 5: to work for me, Like, yes, why would you ever

1140
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 5: want to work with I think, Yeah, in our minds,

1141
00:59:51,400 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 5: it's just like, I mean, you replaced Billy. Don't think no,

1142
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 5: now I know. And that's the thing, like I think

1143
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 5: most of the time, like in my mind, yes, of

1144
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 5: all the things that's iconic about Juicy Juicy is what

1145
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 5: finally dislidged Billy Jean from the number one slot on

1146
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 5: that black music. So my mind is just like, I

1147
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 5: think you're above that. So I don't think it occurred

1148
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 5: to anyone.

1149
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 13: I don't Oh, well, nobody asks.

1150
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 7: Get a DeLorean. I want to hear that sounds like.

1151
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 15: Oh nobody asked about that. And I said, I think

1152
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 15: I too. May said they wanted us to be in.

1153
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 13: The video, but it's like.

1154
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 15: Video on the boat and it's like no, it's like, no,

1155
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 15: two old people with all the.

1156
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 13: Young the youngsters out there.

1157
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 15: I'd rather I'd rather sing, you know, but I'd rather

1158
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 15: I did not know who was singing on that, And

1159
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 15: I just know it was just so different from I

1160
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 15: think what we would have done.

1161
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 7: So different yeah, I think. Uh so, did you guys

1162
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 7: tour much with with the with that album?

1163
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 2: Is?

1164
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:12,919
Speaker 6: Oh?

1165
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 7: We did? We did.

1166
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 13: I think we toured a lot.

1167
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 5: But usually with accidental hits or at least unplanned hits

1168
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 5: from the label.

1169
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:21,959
Speaker 7: It's like did they finally see the lights?

1170
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 15: Like okay, well, you know we toured with we opened

1171
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 15: it was a juicy fruit in between the sheets and

1172
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 15: Sexual Healing.

1173
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 13: It was Marmon, Gay Brothers and two Wow.

1174
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 7: That was the tour.

1175
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 13: That was the tour. Wow, that was the tour.

1176
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 15: And this is when when Marmon came out.

1177
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 13: And he had the roll.

1178
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 7: That yeah, that was he was stripping.

1179
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 13: He was stripping.

1180
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 7: But what was that like hindsight?

1181
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 5: You know, that's something that legendary, could never happen again.

1182
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 5: So it's like, did you appreciate that moment or was

1183
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 5: it like the show's over, I'm going on.

1184
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 13: When it when it?

1185
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 15: When it was for m too May no always always

1186
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 15: appreciated because it was like people will hear us. We

1187
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 15: were We were a really really good band and and

1188
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 15: the performances were amazing and and I just want to

1189
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 15: say that when I from working with them two May

1190
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 15: and then going to work with Luther was was interesting

1191
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 15: because with him two May, everything was improvisational everything because

1192
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 15: they're all like jazz guys up there. So we'd start

1193
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 15: out with an intro and the intro would turn into

1194
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 15: something else, and you know, and everybody's singing and whatever,

1195
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 15: so we'd have the core of the song and then

1196
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 15: it would just go someplace else. But working with other people,

1197
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 15: it was the same thing every night, and which I

1198
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 15: had to get used to. It's like, you sing the

1199
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 15: same the song the same way every night. Nobody branches

1200
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 15: out and you know, does like an interest in solo

1201
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 15: or the same solo every night. It was the same.

1202
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 15: Everything was the same. Even the dialogue was the same

1203
01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 15: every night. So you know, I I prefer.

1204
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 13: Him to May because we we would stretch out you know.

1205
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 7: Nice.

1206
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, so with Theater of the Mind, Oh no, no,

1207
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 5: you mean he was nice.

1208
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 7: You know, that was pushing the boundaries.

1209
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 5: So were you at that point where you guys like, okay,

1210
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 5: we're the boundary pushing.

1211
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 15: But no, it wasn't even about pushing boundaries. That's just

1212
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 15: who we were. How did the concept of that song, mister.

1213
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 12: Because you said something that I want to say.

1214
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 7: The lyrics, the lyrics shut you down, I asked him.

1215
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 7: I was like, I was like, so were you and

1216
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 7: y'all live gate man.

1217
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 2: Did?

1218
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 7: He was cool, like he was like he did like.

1219
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 5: He got a side step and then I guess he

1220
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:01,919
Speaker 5: walked and we were might take the picture, asked me about

1221
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 5: to watch man it.

1222
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 9: Was about.

1223
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 7: And then wept each other up and yeah, because it

1224
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 7: got real.

1225
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 10: Quiet when you when you're like, it was like, and

1226
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 10: then about that's right.

1227
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 5: I actually thought that you guys were a husband and

1228
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 5: wife at first, based on the chemistry of the video.

1229
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 7: I thought, yeah, say something.

1230
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 15: I'm sorry those who know, those.

1231
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 13: Who say don't know exactly what.

1232
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 5: She hit out with the push your t you know,

1233
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 5: you know.

1234
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 13: A lot of people love that song. It's wrong, but

1235
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 13: we got threats and everything that. Yeah.

1236
01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 15: Yeah, one guy was his wife kept playing the song

1237
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 15: like it was in the bar. She kept playing the

1238
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 15: song like on the jukebox or something, and you know,

1239
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 15: he said, you're trying.

1240
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 13: To tell me something.

1241
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 15: And then and then did somebody called, like a radio station,

1242
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 15: said don't they better not come.

1243
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 13: To the venue?

1244
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 15: Oh wow, because of that song. So they were having

1245
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 15: personal problems had nothing to.

1246
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 13: Do with us.

1247
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 3: It was like they want you to trigger.

1248
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 13: I'm just singing a song. You want to hear it?

1249
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 7: Here you go? That video came on night tracks.

1250
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 13: Was like, I'm going to be listening to that.

1251
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 7: So how well?

1252
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 5: I mean when you when you did your solo record

1253
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 5: in eighty seven, did you do it officially leaving what?

1254
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 7: No?

1255
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 5: Because they worked on the record. Was it just like okay,

1256
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 5: we'll go back to the group. But the group included after.

1257
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 15: It was it was you know what we had, We

1258
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 15: had projects. It was a it was a The Towatha

1259
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 15: record was a project. If it happened, fine, if not,

1260
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 15: more projects and the group didn't break up.

1261
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 13: We sort of just faded away, you know.

1262
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 7: There was it.

1263
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 15: The music was changing, and it's like everybody was trying

1264
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 15: to do their own thing.

1265
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 7: It was like, you know, nobody wanted the new Jack swing.

1266
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 13: No, but you know, because we had that, we had

1267
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 13: the New Jack Swing.

1268
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 5: So I mean, you know, so, okay, what I want

1269
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 5: to ask about the the stage that you're at now

1270
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 5: with your uh with your background work as far as

1271
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 5: doing uh uh live stuff. And I always wanted to

1272
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 5: know what is it with because I always noticed that

1273
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:50,960
Speaker 5: the rock guys will always pick women of color to

1274
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 5: be their their background vocalists from the Stones.

1275
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1276
01:06:56,640 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, so what well they needed for that silo?

1277
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 13: That's right, had the sweets the sweet inspirations.

1278
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, so where it is right now? Wait, I'm sorry,

1279
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 5: time out. Yes, Steve go Ahead asked, I totally what

1280
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 5: j Giles band?

1281
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:22,919
Speaker 15: Oh that was so much fun? And I ran into

1282
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 15: oh my god, this is a guy from the group Peter. Yeah,

1283
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 15: because he was on David Letterman and It's it and

1284
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 15: and he was there performing and I was, I was

1285
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 15: there and I said, you know, I sang on that record,

1286
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 15: so I remember you.

1287
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 13: And it was like twenty years so, I mean free

1288
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:42,920
Speaker 13: His frame was great. They were good. They were they

1289
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 13: were funny guys.

1290
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 8: But just that one song or a bunch of songs.

1291
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 13: You know. I did that with Luther and I think

1292
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 13: Sissy wait what yeah, check the credits. I think I

1293
01:07:55,080 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 13: think it was because it's like, that's all we got

1294
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 13: to sing.

1295
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 14: Yeah, that part get into it.

1296
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, it just says you are a search engine nightmare man.

1297
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 7: Your name is spelled every type of way. Oh.

1298
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 13: I don't know if I want you looking at that.

1299
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:16,360
Speaker 13: I might have notes on there.

1300
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:18,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, I want I want.

1301
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 2: To tell the audience that Wata got so many credits

1302
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 2: that she had to bring in the cheese because because

1303
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 2: sometimes I don't remember, it.

1304
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 8: Wasn't Centerfold on that record on centerphone, you know what.

1305
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 13: I don't remember, but I do remember free Frame.

1306
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 15: And that is so crazy, screedy POLITI each night I

1307
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 15: go to Franklin, I just remember bits and pieces of

1308
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:43,040
Speaker 15: the songs.

1309
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 18: I'm not I'm not singling out. I just saw a

1310
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 18: freeze Frame.

1311
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 7: I did sing Yeah, what what? What has been your

1312
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 7: most surprising request? Like they want me on?

1313
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:58,440
Speaker 13: Oh you need to work? Yes, Oh oh, I'm never surprised.

1314
01:08:59,240 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 14: Good answer.

1315
01:08:59,920 --> 01:09:04,680
Speaker 15: I'm never surprised because because if they if they if

1316
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 15: they seek if they seek me out, then they know

1317
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 15: what I can do and maybe I can add something

1318
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 15: to add a little flavor to what they're doing.

1319
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 13: Never trying to outshadow whoever's in the front.

1320
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 15: It's I'm just there for support, which goes back to

1321
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:16,800
Speaker 15: your question.

1322
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:19,760
Speaker 10: Answer your question, because the question is interesting about women

1323
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:21,880
Speaker 10: of color, why fans?

1324
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 7: I forgot to ask that, Yeah, this is your show question.

1325
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:31,720
Speaker 5: Body language vibe was more like, are you you'll never

1326
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:32,719
Speaker 5: get to answer my question?

1327
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:34,639
Speaker 14: Are you really reading Steve's body language?

1328
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:45,719
Speaker 10: Seriously, just the sugar energy went down diabetic energy skip.

1329
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 18: To eighty seven and I knew freeze frame was probably

1330
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 18: eighty seven.

1331
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:51,640
Speaker 7: Well yeah, freet frame was eighty one.

1332
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 13: Oh so that was before juicy.

1333
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:56,560
Speaker 7: Yes, oh okay, I see that.

1334
01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 12: But back to the question, yes.

1335
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 7: But so why do you think that is?

1336
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:04,839
Speaker 13: And I just think we just add so much more flavor?

1337
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 5: But are there church? Are there the are there the

1338
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 5: white counterparts that.

1339
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 7: Have roads, charmers and roads? Who Al Green's background singers?

1340
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 7: They're white? Yeah? Oh that's right, let's say together.

1341
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 5: I totally forgot about How did you know that?

1342
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:25,680
Speaker 13: I don't know why.

1343
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 7: I don't know.

1344
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 11: You just got the one who knows about things.

1345
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 2: You know.

1346
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:37,880
Speaker 7: They're just in a documentary about them, and I was like,

1347
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 7: oh wow, they're why on Netflix?

1348
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 5: I've seen something, you know on YouTube? They these three

1349
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 5: women saying for everybody there.

1350
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:54,760
Speaker 7: No roads, charmers and roads. I think that we just

1351
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:55,720
Speaker 7: have a.

1352
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:58,759
Speaker 15: Feeling because you know what, you didn't see these people,

1353
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 15: so I mean, and if I would read the credits,

1354
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 15: you know, I wouldn't know where they were from.

1355
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 2: Do you remember any dope white background singers or you

1356
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 2: know what?

1357
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:17,000
Speaker 15: No, I know the people from Philly International, because that's you.

1358
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 13: And I used to read the line.

1359
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 15: I know it's like I want to be like these

1360
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 15: ladies right here, and and that's all I ever wanted

1361
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 15: to do was be like those ladies from Philly International.

1362
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 15: So because they sang on everything that Philly International did.

1363
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:30,600
Speaker 3: What are the ladies from Philly National? Who's that?

1364
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 2: Uh?

1365
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 15: Barbara Benson? Barbara Benson because her brother went to Howard

1366
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 15: he was a drummer.

1367
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 7: Barbara Benson.

1368
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 5: She okay, I know she's on sit down and talk

1369
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 5: to me from like she's on lou Rawls and stuff.

1370
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 5: And yes, I mentioned that.

1371
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 13: Oh wait, wait a minute, did you know you watch Power?

1372
01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 15: Yes, now you know the theme song is its dead

1373
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:57,640
Speaker 15: in Street.

1374
01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 12: And that's your your voice on the background.

1375
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 3: I was no, no, no, no, no, no.

1376
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 13: That's just some trivia trivia, Okay, Okay.

1377
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 15: So I don't I don't know the ladies that sang

1378
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:12,360
Speaker 15: with al Green, but I mean I know that I

1379
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 15: like the fact that the rock stars and rock artists

1380
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 15: would would call for people women of color because you know, because.

1381
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 7: It's so white.

1382
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:28,000
Speaker 15: Well back in the day, like with Joe Cocker, because

1383
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 15: you know, I loved Joe Cocker with him, I did,

1384
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:34,600
Speaker 15: and he was he was great up at what's the

1385
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 15: place in the Western studio?

1386
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 13: I want to say house of Music.

1387
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 15: No, house of Music. It was a studio in West Orange.

1388
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 15: Did I sing with the Joe Cocker. He was such

1389
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:54,560
Speaker 15: a great guy. Loved Heineken, he loves but you know,

1390
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:58,680
Speaker 15: a little help from my friends because he had he

1391
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 15: always had a mixed group. So but and I just

1392
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 15: assume that's because they were in Europe. But you know,

1393
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 15: I don't know.

1394
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Joe, he wasn't from here.

1395
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 7: No hes u K I did not know.

1396
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:13,599
Speaker 13: Okay, Okay, you gotta be UK for that. Yeah, because

1397
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 13: because they.

1398
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 7: Level approximation is on average. White Bean is one of

1399
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:21,759
Speaker 7: my favorites.

1400
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 15: Amy Stewart, Yes, yes, yes, and yeah. So I can't answer.

1401
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 15: I can't answer that. I just know that I like

1402
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 15: to see the women of color, well people of color

1403
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:39,759
Speaker 15: singing background.

1404
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 12: You know that's everybody's got a lot of dudes too.

1405
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 13: Right, Yeah, because if I went out, I would want

1406
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 13: to have dudes with me.

1407
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 15: Yeah, like, let us think in the pipst.

1408
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 5: I worked with the first time last month, I was like, okay,

1409
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:02,640
Speaker 5: I see yeah, Joe, oh yeah, so for.

1410
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:08,640
Speaker 7: Damn, I literally just took my question.

1411
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 13: Street.

1412
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 7: That's always a good start about no, no, no, I got it.

1413
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:21,519
Speaker 5: So right now with an what's your what's your current

1414
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:22,599
Speaker 5: in twenty eighteen?

1415
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:25,600
Speaker 7: Who are your current clientele that you that.

1416
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:26,280
Speaker 13: I'm working with?

1417
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:29,799
Speaker 15: Yes, oh oh no, right now, I'm just working with Tawafa.

1418
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:32,639
Speaker 15: I've been doing like like I'm doing the funk Fest,

1419
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 15: coming up with Marstaying, the time Confunction, Mary Jane Girls,

1420
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 15: Evan Champagne, you.

1421
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:40,280
Speaker 13: Know, like the you know, the fun thing.

1422
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 15: I'm doing that, and and I've been doing that like

1423
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 15: those those kinds of concerts.

1424
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 13: You know, what do you call it, like old school?

1425
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so you know, ten fifteen minutes and

1426
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 15: you know, sing uh you me and he juicy fruit

1427
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 15: and then another dance piece.

1428
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 3: Oh crap wait saying that she did she didn't see

1429
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 3: you me and.

1430
01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 5: He, well no, no no. But in my mind I

1431
01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:08,720
Speaker 5: was like, damn, we got it. I wouldn't please you.

1432
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:11,720
Speaker 5: And then it just hit me that she did. She did,

1433
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:13,679
Speaker 5: and it was amazing.

1434
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 7: I did.

1435
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:14,840
Speaker 13: It was so much fun.

1436
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:18,599
Speaker 3: You mean here, I want to fell out child.

1437
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:21,680
Speaker 13: That was it and I really appreciate that. That was like,

1438
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 13: that was that was good. That was really good for me.

1439
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 5: I loved it, and and and James and was their

1440
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:33,719
Speaker 5: backstage like okay, you got everything, got everything?

1441
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 7: You know where the.

1442
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 12: Bridge comes in, he takes care of his friend, stopped like.

1443
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:42,839
Speaker 9: I'm sorry.

1444
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 7: Right now, not shut it down the water And I

1445
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:52,720
Speaker 7: don't know why I think it was that.

1446
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 13: Look, okay, yes, the dust.

1447
01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 5: Not that I'm trying to not lie he of this

1448
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:05,960
Speaker 5: and ask for a scandalous story. But is there one

1449
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 5: act in the arsenal of of of work that you've

1450
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 5: done that you would never work with again? You don't

1451
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 5: have to name anything.

1452
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:17,720
Speaker 13: Oh absolutely, you don't have to name a name. I'm

1453
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:18,639
Speaker 13: not going to name a name.

1454
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 5: But how bad is the treatment? Because I know that

1455
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 5: sometimes background singers get.

1456
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 7: Treated like absolutely, I tell you, did you ever walk

1457
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:30,120
Speaker 7: off stage? And just like I'm never.

1458
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 13: Again, No, no, because I'll you know, if I agreed

1459
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 13: to do the job, I'll do the job. But you

1460
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:35,679
Speaker 13: know you always have that option.

1461
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 7: Again.

1462
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 15: There was one artist, very famous singer who was at

1463
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 15: Radio City.

1464
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 7: I already know who this is. This No, and she

1465
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 7: might be royalty.

1466
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 13: No, not that No, not not that one. There's another one.

1467
01:16:57,880 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 13: There's another one like right around in here.

1468
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:05,320
Speaker 15: Who's recently recently retired, recently retired, had us come on

1469
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:07,640
Speaker 15: stage the clothes we're not fitting, we had pinned in

1470
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:10,880
Speaker 15: the back of our dresses. I had never in all

1471
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 15: my life had to go out on stage like that,

1472
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 15: and it was just such disrespect for the band and

1473
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:18,559
Speaker 15: and everybody.

1474
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 13: It's like, no thanks, thanks, but no thanks for if

1475
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:23,040
Speaker 13: you call me again.

1476
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 7: Really, I was playing to gold her show. Her show

1477
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:28,960
Speaker 7: is crazy, that's all she came.

1478
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:34,640
Speaker 15: But I'm not talking about the music part. Andreated the

1479
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:35,759
Speaker 15: way people are treated.

1480
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 7: It's like no and not.

1481
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:41,400
Speaker 5: I know, I know exactly you're talking about because I

1482
01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:44,320
Speaker 5: worked with this person too, and they walked out.

1483
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:47,600
Speaker 15: On okay, you want to rearrange the whole stage and

1484
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:51,080
Speaker 15: and just like put this here and put this there,

1485
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 15: and and it's like, oh no, I think.

1486
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 13: It takes the joy out of it for me.

1487
01:17:57,400 --> 01:18:01,560
Speaker 5: I think sometimes when a person is nervous, they might micromanage,

1488
01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:05,720
Speaker 5: and that's the way it comes out. When someone really

1489
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:11,920
Speaker 5: micromanages things, like in this Chinese details on it's like,

1490
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:15,800
Speaker 5: I like perfection, but really you're scared of shit fear

1491
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 5: right line, which is weird because this person is.

1492
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:20,599
Speaker 7: Such a Maverick, phenomenal singer.

1493
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:22,720
Speaker 2: But this person just admitted that they were scared to

1494
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 2: do certain things and now they're starting to do certain thing.

1495
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:26,519
Speaker 14: I love avoid talking code.

1496
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:27,680
Speaker 6: Well I.

1497
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:31,599
Speaker 7: Could, I got it, but I don't know neither.

1498
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 3: I was just in make some shit up.

1499
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:35,080
Speaker 13: I'm just making stuff up.

1500
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:39,920
Speaker 7: Questions. Oh man, God, I'm trying to think how many questions?

1501
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:40,680
Speaker 7: So much?

1502
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 5: Yeah with the ps, how did you come aboard with

1503
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 5: Dave Matthews Band? And how long has it been since

1504
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 5: you've been with those guys?

1505
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:53,120
Speaker 15: Okay, I met them in like nineteen ninety nine or

1506
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:56,400
Speaker 15: something like that, and they were in New York City

1507
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:59,240
Speaker 15: and they were about to do They were in the

1508
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:02,160
Speaker 15: studio doing a song and they wanted that. I got

1509
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:04,640
Speaker 15: called from someone from the record company to come and

1510
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 15: do a session.

1511
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:06,640
Speaker 7: You know what you're on?

1512
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 14: Stay?

1513
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:10,880
Speaker 15: That was a song that was the song Stay, and

1514
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:14,760
Speaker 15: we I was I had just been a secession with Luther.

1515
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:18,519
Speaker 15: So I had my girls, Brenda White King and Cindy Myzell,

1516
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 15: said come on, let's go down to Electric Lady and

1517
01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 15: did a session with Dave Matthews Band and it's this

1518
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 15: one song and so we did the one song they

1519
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:28,400
Speaker 15: loved it so much. They said, we're going to be

1520
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:32,760
Speaker 15: at the Meadowlands or whatever they call it now, the Meadowlands,

1521
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:35,160
Speaker 15: and could you come out and sing this one song.

1522
01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:40,640
Speaker 13: We had a bus, okay, a bus to ourselves. It's like,

1523
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 13: where's everybody else? Oh no, this is for you.

1524
01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 15: I said, we're singing one song. And then we did

1525
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:48,120
Speaker 15: it like that weekend and I said, you know, we

1526
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 15: can sing more than one song, you know. And that

1527
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:54,200
Speaker 15: turned into two years. Two years but wait a minute.

1528
01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:54,879
Speaker 7: And then.

1529
01:19:56,840 --> 01:20:00,040
Speaker 15: Three years ago they called me back to Watha. We

1530
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 15: still saying we want to can you get some girls

1531
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 15: and come back and do the tour. And we did

1532
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:06,760
Speaker 15: two more tours with Dave Matthew's bands, and that's like

1533
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 15: the that's the the supreme, ultimate Supreme and treatment Dave

1534
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 15: Matthews band.

1535
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:13,200
Speaker 13: Oh I loved them forever.

1536
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 5: I think I saw you were you on because you

1537
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:17,559
Speaker 5: toured that album with the Before These Crowded Streets album.

1538
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 7: It was ninety nine. Yeah, you toured with them. I

1539
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:21,639
Speaker 7: want to say I saw you guys.

1540
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:26,360
Speaker 5: Y'all came to Greensboro Coliseum in Greensboro, and I saw

1541
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:27,040
Speaker 5: remember the.

1542
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:29,639
Speaker 13: Lovely ladies, that's what he called us the Lovely Ladies.

1543
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:31,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, that was a great show.

1544
01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:34,040
Speaker 14: All this I like it, quotes Dave Matthews Concerts. I

1545
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:34,600
Speaker 14: didn't see that.

1546
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:36,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, man, I was there. I was there, and I

1547
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:38,559
Speaker 7: was trying to explain because I took my little brother

1548
01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 7: at the time. They loved it. He loved it.

1549
01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:43,600
Speaker 3: I've never been I've heard stories like.

1550
01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 14: Show improvising and jamming, like that's the ship and on.

1551
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:52,000
Speaker 13: But you know, to me, it was like like the

1552
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 13: further extension of him too may because that's what we

1553
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 13: would do. And they they played forever.

1554
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:58,880
Speaker 15: But they also they sounded amazing and everyone was nice

1555
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:02,559
Speaker 15: and and everyone is That's the happiest tour I've ever

1556
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:05,439
Speaker 15: been on tours because even even the crew was happy.

1557
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:06,400
Speaker 13: You know what I'm saying.

1558
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 15: Everybody was just, oh, this is just wonderful just to

1559
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 15: be here because it was everybody was cool.

1560
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 10: They all stay in the nicest hotels and take everybody.

1561
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:15,560
Speaker 10: Everybody's on the A team in that.

1562
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:16,519
Speaker 7: This is true.

1563
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 14: There's no bees, no bees.

1564
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:22,320
Speaker 5: What is the How how long you've been just touring?

1565
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 5: I guess how do you protect your voice? To take

1566
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 5: care of yourself?

1567
01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:25,599
Speaker 15: Oh?

1568
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 13: You know what, you have to protect your instrument.

1569
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:29,640
Speaker 15: You know, you got to warm up, just like the

1570
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:32,560
Speaker 15: guitar players, you know, you know they're constantly fiddling and

1571
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 15: warm you know, just playing to keep their fingers flexible.

1572
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:36,719
Speaker 15: You have to do the same thing with your voice.

1573
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 15: You gotta protect it because you know what, I can't

1574
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 15: take it and put it in the case and plug

1575
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:43,680
Speaker 15: it in. This is all I got, so I have

1576
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 15: to take care of it. So you'll see me in

1577
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:49,760
Speaker 15: the summertime with a scarf on, and you know, even

1578
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:51,360
Speaker 15: in the summer, I gotta protect my throat.

1579
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 3: Do you're like non dairy type?

1580
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:53,800
Speaker 7: You go that far?

1581
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:56,200
Speaker 15: Like, oh, no, ice cream is was was my first

1582
01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 15: love and I used to be able to eat that

1583
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 15: and then go sing. I can't do it anymore, you know.

1584
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:03,120
Speaker 7: So what's like your pre show? So like if you

1585
01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:05,680
Speaker 7: if they're saying, I showtime is it nine? We do

1586
01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 7: on stage at nine? When do you start? Like, what's

1587
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:09,880
Speaker 7: your pre show regimen? Oh?

1588
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:12,679
Speaker 15: Well, you know we've been rehearsing up to I rehearse

1589
01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:16,320
Speaker 15: the singers, you know, we rehearse constantly, so we're always singing,

1590
01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 15: so we're warmed up by the time by the by

1591
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:22,000
Speaker 15: the time it's showtime. So you know, you just have

1592
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:25,600
Speaker 15: to even if it's just talking, humming, but not excessive,

1593
01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 15: not not anything loud. You know, you got to keep

1594
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 15: it like at a minimum and then you're ready for

1595
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:30,720
Speaker 15: the show.

1596
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:31,800
Speaker 7: You gotta.

1597
01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 15: But you gotta practice every day, you know. You just

1598
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:36,719
Speaker 15: like a horn player, you gotta you gotta constantly practice.

1599
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:39,439
Speaker 2: Do you do those like classic warm up exercises that

1600
01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 2: are like a lot of singers do oh yeah for

1601
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 2: the ladies, ladies that are listening.

1602
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:45,200
Speaker 13: Yes, oh, I have to have to do that.

1603
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:46,680
Speaker 7: You gotta warm up.

1604
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:48,559
Speaker 15: Even if you just get a basic book with basic

1605
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:51,280
Speaker 15: vocal exercises, you gotta do something every day just to

1606
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 15: keep keep it open.

1607
01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:54,839
Speaker 13: Because your voice a lockdown, it a lockdown.

1608
01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 10: What's your what's your process when it comes to the

1609
01:22:58,040 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 10: arranging vocals, Like when you're in the studio with three

1610
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:01,639
Speaker 10: different people, because I always find.

1611
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 14: That all of the vocalists I work with, they all

1612
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:05,559
Speaker 14: it's either there's.

1613
01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:08,439
Speaker 10: A common language, which is like I got the bottom,

1614
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 10: you got the middle together the top right, and we

1615
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:11,600
Speaker 10: all just know what that is. The top could be,

1616
01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:13,880
Speaker 10: but that being said, the top middle could be three

1617
01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:15,560
Speaker 10: different notes depending on kind of where we are the

1618
01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:17,680
Speaker 10: thing and also feel like people also, they'll be like

1619
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:21,560
Speaker 10: they're like church at when you church it you like

1620
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:25,320
Speaker 10: flat to third, you do all these there's this is

1621
01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:28,080
Speaker 10: common like everybody, all background singers. I know that that's

1622
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:30,519
Speaker 10: how they speak. And it's awesome is that it sibol.

1623
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:31,519
Speaker 13: It's the same thing.

1624
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:34,280
Speaker 15: It's like if I bring if I if I'm saying

1625
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:36,280
Speaker 15: I'm coming in with my girls, with Brenda and Sandy,

1626
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 15: I'm the top, Sandy's the.

1627
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:39,120
Speaker 13: Middle, BRender is the bottom.

1628
01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 15: Always that's always, unless unless we want and we will

1629
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 15: switch it up every now and then, you know, just

1630
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:48,640
Speaker 15: for texture for texture. But uh, you know, usually if

1631
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:51,760
Speaker 15: I'm at the session, I'm usually the contractor, which means

1632
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:53,880
Speaker 15: I call them for the session, and which means I

1633
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 15: know what the parts are going to be.

1634
01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:57,400
Speaker 13: So I just teach them the parts and we just

1635
01:23:57,520 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 13: going from.

1636
01:23:57,880 --> 01:23:58,559
Speaker 14: It's all hard of time.

1637
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 7: You just go like piece by piece, just going yeah,

1638
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 7: oh yeah, and it's feel easy.

1639
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 13: Just go in and now there's nothing that you have

1640
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 13: to learn the night before.

1641
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:06,720
Speaker 15: It's like coming, Look, we got two hours to get

1642
01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 15: these three songs, so you know, let's just focus in one, two, three,

1643
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:10,920
Speaker 15: that's it.

1644
01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 5: Well, one of the things I always admire and just

1645
01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:15,439
Speaker 5: I mean, I just as a kid. How I got

1646
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 5: to know you was through reading credits and I just knew,

1647
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:19,880
Speaker 5: I mean, I knew you were from M to May.

1648
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:22,600
Speaker 7: But like I just remember reading like credits and I.

1649
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 5: Was like, this lady is on every album that my

1650
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 5: mom has everything And one of the things I always like,

1651
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:31,680
Speaker 5: particularly once I started making music myself and singing and

1652
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 5: arranging vocals, I always admire and I came to appreciate

1653
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 5: much more later. How well, all y'all singing unison because

1654
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:40,600
Speaker 5: it's harder to sing unison that it is in and

1655
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:43,000
Speaker 5: like y'all like and we all sang together.

1656
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:45,320
Speaker 15: They didn't do one track at a time and then

1657
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:48,200
Speaker 15: just you know, put it together. No, you got to

1658
01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 15: learn how to sing with somebody. You can't just you

1659
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:53,320
Speaker 15: know who used to cut shef used to We used.

1660
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:55,960
Speaker 13: To go in one at a time and sing.

1661
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 15: It's like, you got four people here, why can't we

1662
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:00,479
Speaker 15: just all sing together and knock it out instead of

1663
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:01,439
Speaker 15: being here for six hours?

1664
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:02,559
Speaker 13: We can be here for two hours.

1665
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:04,240
Speaker 10: So what's your take on tuning and stuff like that

1666
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 10: these days? Because you know, people just like they create

1667
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:08,840
Speaker 10: backgrounds by just tuning people.

1668
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:11,800
Speaker 13: Oh, you know, I'm not. I'm just not accustomed to that.

1669
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:13,680
Speaker 7: It's like, what do you need that for?

1670
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 13: You got a singer, she should they should already be

1671
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:16,800
Speaker 13: able to sing in tune.

1672
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 14: I mean you say that, but I hear what you're saying.

1673
01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:23,800
Speaker 14: I hear you.

1674
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 13: But where I come from, that's that. That's just the

1675
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:25,960
Speaker 13: way it is.

1676
01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:28,200
Speaker 15: Anything different, it's like, oh, we'll change it with the

1677
01:25:28,240 --> 01:25:30,160
Speaker 15: auto tuning. It's a little album with It's like, what

1678
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:32,760
Speaker 15: are you talking about? Let's just sing it, you know,

1679
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:35,519
Speaker 15: it's it's a new world. I'm not you know, I

1680
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 15: feel like a dinosaur when it comes to that.

1681
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:43,439
Speaker 11: You know, yeah, I actually had a question in doing

1682
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:46,360
Speaker 11: vocal arrangements when you're you know, have you ever run

1683
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:48,280
Speaker 11: into a situation where you weren't credited for work that

1684
01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:48,639
Speaker 11: you did?

1685
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:50,800
Speaker 7: And how did you handle that?

1686
01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:53,600
Speaker 13: Yeah? Well, you know what, I just I look at

1687
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:57,200
Speaker 13: that as tuition for for something better to come?

1688
01:25:57,479 --> 01:25:59,439
Speaker 7: Is that something that would happen a lot, especially to women,

1689
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:00,840
Speaker 7: not to me?

1690
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:07,559
Speaker 13: No, you know, you gotta go in you look, I'm

1691
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:08,719
Speaker 13: the person that you called.

1692
01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:09,680
Speaker 7: I was.

1693
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:12,960
Speaker 15: I'm the person that you call. When that the singers

1694
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:15,640
Speaker 15: were called to make sure they got that money. You know,

1695
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:18,120
Speaker 15: I would make sure that the union that secessions were correct,

1696
01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:20,240
Speaker 15: the money was right, and I send the report into

1697
01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 15: the union. So I took care of business. I did

1698
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:25,599
Speaker 15: the paperwork. So and not only did I do the paperwork,

1699
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 15: I sang and did the arrangement. So it's like, if

1700
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:31,439
Speaker 15: you're doing a job for me as a contractor, then

1701
01:26:31,479 --> 01:26:33,599
Speaker 15: you would you know you're gonna get your money. Yeah,

1702
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:36,160
Speaker 15: but I always got credits for contracting because that was

1703
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:36,760
Speaker 15: a union thing.

1704
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 7: That makes sense.

1705
01:26:39,080 --> 01:26:42,360
Speaker 5: What was it like for y'all when when hip hop

1706
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:44,840
Speaker 5: kind of took over for lack of a better word,

1707
01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:46,640
Speaker 5: how did you guys adjust to that and what were

1708
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 5: your thoughts on hip hop at that time?

1709
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:51,840
Speaker 15: Well, one thing that I started noticing is that they

1710
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:54,840
Speaker 15: were playing like songs in two different keys, and like

1711
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 15: the music, the track would being one key and the

1712
01:26:57,280 --> 01:26:58,880
Speaker 15: singer would be singing in another key, and it's like

1713
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:01,679
Speaker 15: why did they let that happened? But you know, that's

1714
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:06,080
Speaker 15: I think that was called progress. I think that was

1715
01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:09,479
Speaker 15: called that was that was progressed. But you know, but

1716
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:11,000
Speaker 15: then you you know, you hear it enough and you

1717
01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:14,680
Speaker 15: get accustomed to hearing that, But still I have to

1718
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:17,640
Speaker 15: allow myself to have a certain level of you know,

1719
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:20,519
Speaker 15: a certain standard of music.

1720
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:23,720
Speaker 13: Music neess you know. So it's like, okay, that's what

1721
01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:25,240
Speaker 13: they're doing, but I can't do that.

1722
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 7: I understand.

1723
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:28,799
Speaker 5: Have you ever had like a bad day in the studio,

1724
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:31,960
Speaker 5: Because every time I've ever heard your music or your lead, like,

1725
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:33,799
Speaker 5: it always sound fantastic.

1726
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:35,439
Speaker 13: Yeah, but you're always hear the finished product.

1727
01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:40,680
Speaker 7: Everybody, like what is a bad to watch? The day

1728
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:42,639
Speaker 7: would probably be like a great day for anyone else.

1729
01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:45,680
Speaker 15: So well, it's probably would be a day when I

1730
01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 15: wasn't feeling well and couldn't hit the notes like I

1731
01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:49,840
Speaker 15: wanted to. I can still hit the notes, but it

1732
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:52,519
Speaker 15: wouldn't be like the full power that I would want

1733
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:52,720
Speaker 15: to have.

1734
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:55,680
Speaker 5: So so like if you like, if you're sick or

1735
01:27:55,720 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 5: something and you're on tour, how do you I guess,

1736
01:27:58,479 --> 01:27:59,640
Speaker 5: like if you have a cold or something, like, how

1737
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:00,559
Speaker 5: do you sing over cold?

1738
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 7: How do you fight through that?

1739
01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:03,400
Speaker 13: Sometimes you have to.

1740
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:06,720
Speaker 15: What I can do is if if I know I

1741
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 15: can't my high note are gone, I'll switch the parts

1742
01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:11,800
Speaker 15: with the singer and let let the singer, you know,

1743
01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:13,600
Speaker 15: take the higher note, and then I'll just sing in

1744
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:16,240
Speaker 15: the middle there's alwa, there's always ways around it because

1745
01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:17,640
Speaker 15: you got to be thinking on your feet because you're like,

1746
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:20,280
Speaker 15: this is this is performance, it's it's showtime.

1747
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:22,880
Speaker 13: You know, you can't say I don't feel good?

1748
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:24,720
Speaker 14: No, do you do it on the spot, like right

1749
01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:26,240
Speaker 14: before the show would start, you just switch around the

1750
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:26,559
Speaker 14: parts like.

1751
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:27,280
Speaker 13: Oh we could do that.

1752
01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:29,880
Speaker 14: Yeah, I know, I've that my head up.

1753
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:31,320
Speaker 7: I total.

1754
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:33,320
Speaker 14: I just I've watched people do that and it's just.

1755
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:36,200
Speaker 15: Like I'm feeling a little I'm feeling my throats a

1756
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:38,240
Speaker 15: little scratchy today. Could you just sing the top for

1757
01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:40,240
Speaker 15: me and I'll sing the middle okay, and just going out.

1758
01:28:40,160 --> 01:28:43,680
Speaker 14: And say, yeah, that's great, that's that's true profession. Yes, sir,

1759
01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:44,639
Speaker 14: I know how to read music.

1760
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:50,519
Speaker 7: Yes, Freeze Frame, that's a cool nickname.

1761
01:28:51,439 --> 01:28:51,680
Speaker 8: Keep that.

1762
01:28:52,360 --> 01:28:55,519
Speaker 18: We recently had Jeffrey Osbourne on our show, So what

1763
01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:57,120
Speaker 18: was your experience like working with him?

1764
01:28:58,720 --> 01:28:59,519
Speaker 13: I work with Jeffrey.

1765
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:03,400
Speaker 8: I didn't with Jeffrey, but I like him, Okay.

1766
01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:07,920
Speaker 15: I love his voice, love ballid, love ballad.

1767
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:09,000
Speaker 8: Your credits.

1768
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:11,679
Speaker 13: Really it must have been a group thing. I don't

1769
01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:12,080
Speaker 13: remember that.

1770
01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:17,160
Speaker 18: I have a follow up question, but it's unrelated to Jeffrey.

1771
01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:21,400
Speaker 18: Osborne's really just another question. It's not really where is

1772
01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 18: Irene Karra?

1773
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:23,160
Speaker 7: Oh that.

1774
01:29:25,479 --> 01:29:31,920
Speaker 15: I have not seen Irene Karra in forever? Yeah, but

1775
01:29:32,439 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 15: fame right, I haven't seen her? What a oh yeah,

1776
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:41,080
Speaker 15: well flash dance right right. I haven't seen her in years.

1777
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:41,560
Speaker 17: I know.

1778
01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:44,160
Speaker 15: You know, sometimes when people go off the scene, they

1779
01:29:44,240 --> 01:29:47,519
Speaker 15: either they desaturates the family or something, or you know,

1780
01:29:47,640 --> 01:29:50,800
Speaker 15: some health concerns that they're not you know, available, or

1781
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:52,200
Speaker 15: they're just not they just try to.

1782
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:53,439
Speaker 13: Doing what they did.

1783
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:55,960
Speaker 8: I mean, I haven't researched where she is.

1784
01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:59,880
Speaker 13: I'm just okay, no, no, I haven't seen Iron Car.

1785
01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:01,600
Speaker 2: Does that mean you weren't in the room Because I

1786
01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:04,439
Speaker 2: saw Gregory Hines on your on your credit list too,

1787
01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:05,479
Speaker 2: Does that.

1788
01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:06,920
Speaker 3: Mean you weren't the room during that time either?

1789
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:09,920
Speaker 13: Okay, because I was up there for that one, because

1790
01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:11,320
Speaker 13: that one I loved that album.

1791
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:14,680
Speaker 15: But so he had a whole solo, Yes he did,

1792
01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:22,120
Speaker 15: and then they had this duet that they said, oh

1793
01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:26,000
Speaker 15: my goodness, Jeffrey, I mean, I mean Jeffrey Gregory.

1794
01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:29,800
Speaker 13: Hines was like a great great Yeah. I was there

1795
01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:30,240
Speaker 13: for that one.

1796
01:30:30,360 --> 01:30:34,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, I saw recently, my buddy of mine, Static Selector,

1797
01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:40,240
Speaker 7: you were doing I haven't heard the song. Is it out?

1798
01:30:44,120 --> 01:30:48,400
Speaker 15: That's in b and uh yeah yeah static static in

1799
01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:49,880
Speaker 15: terminology yeah, m yeah.

1800
01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:54,120
Speaker 7: So are you still like, I mean writing, producing, like working,

1801
01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:55,120
Speaker 7: like writing new music.

1802
01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:59,400
Speaker 15: Now we're working on a project for me now, you know. So,

1803
01:30:59,800 --> 01:31:02,240
Speaker 15: so look for something probably by the end of the year,

1804
01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:05,960
Speaker 15: a single or something. But static static is cool.

1805
01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:06,400
Speaker 7: I like her.

1806
01:31:06,479 --> 01:31:09,200
Speaker 13: Yeah, go out to Brooklyn and just like, yo, what

1807
01:31:09,320 --> 01:31:11,560
Speaker 13: you want? You know, I got it?

1808
01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:12,439
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1809
01:31:13,160 --> 01:31:13,960
Speaker 7: Is it still home for you?

1810
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:14,599
Speaker 14: Newark?

1811
01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:16,800
Speaker 13: Are you still well, I'm in the No, I'm not

1812
01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:19,680
Speaker 13: in Newark, but I'm like two exits Jersey. Yeah, I'm

1813
01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:20,120
Speaker 13: in Jersey.

1814
01:31:20,439 --> 01:31:20,639
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1815
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:22,559
Speaker 2: Are you like an active Newark? Well, I know you're

1816
01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:24,639
Speaker 2: not in Newark, but you're an active Newark like community person,

1817
01:31:24,680 --> 01:31:28,759
Speaker 2: because now they're like, who's the mayor nowco whatnot?

1818
01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:30,719
Speaker 13: Oh no, I'm in another city.

1819
01:31:32,120 --> 01:31:32,519
Speaker 3: I'm out.

1820
01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:39,080
Speaker 13: My mom lived there for like fifty some odd years

1821
01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:41,599
Speaker 13: and she she just moved recently.

1822
01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:43,920
Speaker 2: So, you know, always curious about Jersey people, and I

1823
01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:47,080
Speaker 2: like Newark and Corey Booker and the politics and everything

1824
01:31:47,120 --> 01:31:47,479
Speaker 2: that's going on.

1825
01:31:47,560 --> 01:31:51,240
Speaker 13: That's oh yeah, please Cory Booker. Yeah, Senator, yes.

1826
01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:54,639
Speaker 7: Yeah, I was actually to look on her face.

1827
01:31:56,720 --> 01:31:58,679
Speaker 13: Well, no, no, because I'm you know, I'm not familiar.

1828
01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:00,680
Speaker 13: I mean, I know what I read in what I

1829
01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:01,320
Speaker 13: see in the news.

1830
01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:07,759
Speaker 7: Yeah, you any children and kids.

1831
01:32:08,240 --> 01:32:08,519
Speaker 2: I know.

1832
01:32:08,760 --> 01:32:10,600
Speaker 13: I am married to the music. And that's it.

1833
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:11,920
Speaker 3: Has it.

1834
01:32:12,160 --> 01:32:12,960
Speaker 13: There's no time for.

1835
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:19,519
Speaker 3: No time, no time for that interesting I wanted to.

1836
01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:21,400
Speaker 12: I'm not thinking about Lisa Fisher and some of the

1837
01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:21,880
Speaker 12: other people that.

1838
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:25,320
Speaker 3: She don't have. She's not married. I don't think she

1839
01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:26,320
Speaker 3: hasn't no time.

1840
01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:28,240
Speaker 13: We're working.

1841
01:32:28,479 --> 01:32:30,080
Speaker 3: So this is a background singer thing.

1842
01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:33,400
Speaker 15: Well for some, for some, and and and I applaud

1843
01:32:33,400 --> 01:32:35,800
Speaker 15: those who can do both because, you know, because I

1844
01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 15: would have to like focus.

1845
01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:38,920
Speaker 13: All my time on my family. I couldn't. I couldn't

1846
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:43,840
Speaker 13: not have you know, you know, thank you for the sacrifice,

1847
01:32:45,200 --> 01:32:46,080
Speaker 13: thank you for your service.

1848
01:32:48,520 --> 01:32:51,000
Speaker 11: All right, So I hit up to my friends that

1849
01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:52,720
Speaker 11: I know are big to out the fans. My friend

1850
01:32:52,800 --> 01:32:55,240
Speaker 11: Rachel actually says she's to send you fe mail in

1851
01:32:55,320 --> 01:32:58,280
Speaker 11: the back in the day. So one of the questions

1852
01:32:58,320 --> 01:33:01,720
Speaker 11: that they sent me Monica wanted to know about some

1853
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:03,120
Speaker 11: of the work you did with some of the Japanese

1854
01:33:03,200 --> 01:33:03,880
Speaker 11: artists like.

1855
01:33:04,280 --> 01:33:05,200
Speaker 13: Oh Terra Masahino.

1856
01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:09,040
Speaker 7: She loves my friend Monica, she loves the work that

1857
01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:10,040
Speaker 7: you do on the HIPSI.

1858
01:33:09,840 --> 01:33:14,240
Speaker 13: Go out, yes, Terra Masino, oh yes, oh he was cool.

1859
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:15,479
Speaker 13: I got a chance that.

1860
01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:16,000
Speaker 7: Oh my god.

1861
01:33:16,040 --> 01:33:18,680
Speaker 15: I went to Japan so many. I went there so

1862
01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:20,920
Speaker 15: often in one year. It was like maybe I should

1863
01:33:20,920 --> 01:33:23,720
Speaker 15: find a place here, you know. It was like that, No,

1864
01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:27,800
Speaker 15: Terre Massa was cool, great trumpet player.

1865
01:33:28,439 --> 01:33:31,679
Speaker 7: What was what was question? Well, Rachel's questions. She wanted

1866
01:33:31,680 --> 01:33:33,240
Speaker 7: to know about hot Tea and oh.

1867
01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:33,559
Speaker 13: Hot Tea.

1868
01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:36,200
Speaker 15: You know what I'm what I'm trying to do is

1869
01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:38,760
Speaker 15: what I wanted to do was to put something on

1870
01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:41,519
Speaker 15: YouTube or like a round table discussion with hot Tea.

1871
01:33:42,160 --> 01:33:42,360
Speaker 7: You know.

1872
01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:46,439
Speaker 15: But it's so hard to get everybody together and and

1873
01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:48,479
Speaker 15: and that's how I got my social media because I

1874
01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:50,719
Speaker 15: didn't have any I was trying to get everybody together.

1875
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:52,679
Speaker 15: It's like, wait a minute, you don't even have social media,

1876
01:33:52,720 --> 01:33:55,000
Speaker 15: So get yourself together first, and then you know. But

1877
01:33:55,360 --> 01:33:58,759
Speaker 15: it's time because I think because we all went to Howard,

1878
01:33:59,200 --> 01:34:01,320
Speaker 15: I think that it it's such a testament to the

1879
01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:03,280
Speaker 15: to the university that you know.

1880
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:04,679
Speaker 13: We achieved.

1881
01:34:04,760 --> 01:34:07,360
Speaker 15: We we all graduated, and we all went on to

1882
01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:11,639
Speaker 15: do something really good for our careers. And we didn't

1883
01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:14,080
Speaker 15: stay together. But we're still doing We're still in music,

1884
01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:15,960
Speaker 15: and everybody's doing very well.

1885
01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:19,840
Speaker 13: In in their particular areas recorded. No, we never, we

1886
01:34:19,960 --> 01:34:20,719
Speaker 13: never made a record.

1887
01:34:20,920 --> 01:34:23,360
Speaker 3: Sounds like something just happened to Crampton, like a conversation.

1888
01:34:23,479 --> 01:34:24,400
Speaker 13: Wouldn't that be nice?

1889
01:34:24,720 --> 01:34:26,439
Speaker 15: That would be great, That would be great because I

1890
01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:28,719
Speaker 15: just want people to know that it can be done.

1891
01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:31,800
Speaker 13: We can go to Crampton how it can be done.

1892
01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:33,920
Speaker 15: It can be done, and you know, and we're all

1893
01:34:34,040 --> 01:34:37,160
Speaker 15: successful in our own rights, so you know, I think

1894
01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:38,360
Speaker 15: it would be a really cool thing to do.

1895
01:34:39,439 --> 01:34:42,000
Speaker 5: Luther at the time when uh, what was the name

1896
01:34:42,160 --> 01:34:45,240
Speaker 5: Ivan Hampton was playing drums for him? It was he

1897
01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:47,360
Speaker 5: had a drummer Ivan. The reason why I asked, you.

1898
01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:51,280
Speaker 15: Mean when was playing and then and then Ivan Ivan

1899
01:34:51,360 --> 01:34:52,880
Speaker 15: came on after Yogi Ivan.

1900
01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:55,160
Speaker 13: Okay, he was at Madison Square Garden.

1901
01:34:55,360 --> 01:34:58,559
Speaker 7: Oh okay, yeah, his reason why? I asked his wife,

1902
01:34:58,920 --> 01:35:01,240
Speaker 7: who also went to Howard. I know she was out

1903
01:35:01,240 --> 01:35:01,639
Speaker 7: of class.

1904
01:35:02,040 --> 01:35:05,360
Speaker 5: Ivan's wife, Brenda, she was I think she was like

1905
01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:08,320
Speaker 5: a music student as well, but she ended up teaching.

1906
01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:11,160
Speaker 7: Law music law, and she was like our music professor.

1907
01:35:11,240 --> 01:35:12,400
Speaker 7: And if you guys were in.

1908
01:35:12,439 --> 01:35:14,640
Speaker 13: The same no, I don't I don't know her.

1909
01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:16,800
Speaker 15: I don't know her, okay, but what you were with,

1910
01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:19,840
Speaker 15: Oh no, Ivan was there when I was in Okay, gotcha?

1911
01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:21,240
Speaker 15: And then you know what I used to do was

1912
01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:24,240
Speaker 15: Luther would have me come back if somebody was it

1913
01:35:24,439 --> 01:35:26,280
Speaker 15: was ill or had to be away, or if somebody

1914
01:35:26,360 --> 01:35:28,800
Speaker 15: was working with somebody else or somebody's own maternity leave,

1915
01:35:29,680 --> 01:35:31,479
Speaker 15: I would go in and fill in, you know, for

1916
01:35:31,600 --> 01:35:33,320
Speaker 15: whoever was nothing because I knew all this. I was

1917
01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:35,080
Speaker 15: there from the beginning, so I knew all the material.

1918
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:38,240
Speaker 5: Was he ever like because all the footage that I've

1919
01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:40,000
Speaker 5: ever seen in a film, he just always just seemed

1920
01:35:40,040 --> 01:35:44,440
Speaker 5: so straight, Like was he ever like funny or hilarious?

1921
01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:46,280
Speaker 13: Oh my god, he was so hilarious.

1922
01:35:46,360 --> 01:35:49,599
Speaker 15: He was so witty, and he was a great dancer,

1923
01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:52,439
Speaker 15: and he was just and we of course we're all foodies,

1924
01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:54,840
Speaker 15: so I mean we just we had a lot in common,

1925
01:35:54,880 --> 01:35:57,320
Speaker 15: and we all had a real love for the music.

1926
01:35:58,840 --> 01:36:00,880
Speaker 13: Yeah, and you know, I sang on every Luther album

1927
01:36:00,920 --> 01:36:03,840
Speaker 13: except for maybe two not Yeah.

1928
01:36:03,880 --> 01:36:07,040
Speaker 7: My mother was a huge Luther fan. Like every every

1929
01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:09,120
Speaker 7: album I saw, like your name and like.

1930
01:36:09,160 --> 01:36:11,240
Speaker 13: It was that was if I wasn't on stage, that

1931
01:36:11,320 --> 01:36:12,679
Speaker 13: was one record yeah.

1932
01:36:15,080 --> 01:36:18,040
Speaker 8: Oh, I'm good. I'm just wondering, uh, if you were

1933
01:36:18,080 --> 01:36:19,560
Speaker 8: tight with Alphonse moves on.

1934
01:36:21,160 --> 01:36:24,400
Speaker 13: No, no, I don't know, no, no, no no.

1935
01:36:24,920 --> 01:36:29,080
Speaker 15: I remember when I was at Howard Donald Bird Donald

1936
01:36:29,120 --> 01:36:32,920
Speaker 15: Bird and the Blackbirds and and and hot Tea, and

1937
01:36:33,080 --> 01:36:37,720
Speaker 15: we did a performance with uh Professor Bird and the Blackbirds,

1938
01:36:38,240 --> 01:36:41,120
Speaker 15: and I was supposed to get in touch with Alphonse

1939
01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:42,240
Speaker 15: was on and I never did.

1940
01:36:42,760 --> 01:36:45,360
Speaker 13: So it is our paths were I supposed to cross.

1941
01:36:46,120 --> 01:36:51,440
Speaker 18: But of course I know, I know I'm nothing.

1942
01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:53,760
Speaker 7: After him.

1943
01:37:00,479 --> 01:37:05,240
Speaker 14: In your on your credits, she got right there.

1944
01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:06,200
Speaker 3: Looking pack.

1945
01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:10,040
Speaker 14: A lot in big letters.

1946
01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:12,720
Speaker 3: We can edit edited.

1947
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:18,559
Speaker 14: She didn't even hear glasses.

1948
01:37:18,960 --> 01:37:25,799
Speaker 15: Look, Lorie Anderson, Bonnie Tyler, Lori Anderson, Jim steinmon Richie

1949
01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:32,320
Speaker 15: sambora nice guy by the way, Stevie Ray Vaughan family style.

1950
01:37:32,479 --> 01:37:34,479
Speaker 15: I say that, Rick okay sic.

1951
01:37:36,520 --> 01:37:38,120
Speaker 7: God David Bowie.

1952
01:37:40,880 --> 01:37:41,839
Speaker 13: Black tied White.

1953
01:37:41,720 --> 01:37:46,760
Speaker 15: Noise with Albi and did the promotional tour with him

1954
01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:48,599
Speaker 15: and we did TV was great.

1955
01:37:49,080 --> 01:37:50,600
Speaker 13: But Jeffrey Osborne it was.

1956
01:37:52,120 --> 01:37:54,000
Speaker 7: I just think it was on the Only Human album.

1957
01:37:54,280 --> 01:37:56,040
Speaker 7: The song was called The Morning After I Made Love

1958
01:37:56,080 --> 01:37:56,240
Speaker 7: to You.

1959
01:37:57,200 --> 01:38:00,240
Speaker 13: You know what I'm not saying I did it. I

1960
01:38:00,439 --> 01:38:00,760
Speaker 13: just don't.

1961
01:38:00,760 --> 01:38:01,720
Speaker 7: I don't remember it a lot.

1962
01:38:02,920 --> 01:38:05,960
Speaker 13: Remember, I don't even have him on here on my list.

1963
01:38:06,200 --> 01:38:07,080
Speaker 13: I got the spinners.

1964
01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:08,439
Speaker 3: Your list looks a little small.

1965
01:38:09,000 --> 01:38:09,760
Speaker 7: Well, you know what this was.

1966
01:38:10,120 --> 01:38:12,200
Speaker 12: I might have left some people out, but it's still

1967
01:38:12,280 --> 01:38:12,920
Speaker 12: heavy as hell.

1968
01:38:13,439 --> 01:38:20,960
Speaker 13: Yeah, blues blues traveler John and we never mentioned the

1969
01:38:21,040 --> 01:38:26,320
Speaker 13: Queen for for real queen, Yeah for Rtha Franklin.

1970
01:38:26,439 --> 01:38:28,920
Speaker 7: Yes, that was all on jump to it, right, that's

1971
01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:29,519
Speaker 7: jumped to it.

1972
01:38:29,720 --> 01:38:34,040
Speaker 15: Yes, Yes, and I did several uh uh. I did

1973
01:38:34,200 --> 01:38:35,320
Speaker 15: quite a few shows with the Queen.

1974
01:38:35,720 --> 01:38:35,960
Speaker 13: Yeah.

1975
01:38:36,520 --> 01:38:38,559
Speaker 7: What was that like? The Queen?

1976
01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:40,799
Speaker 15: I mean, let me tell you. That voice, that instrument

1977
01:38:41,080 --> 01:38:44,880
Speaker 15: is like sometimes I would cry. I'm standing there, I'm

1978
01:38:45,320 --> 01:38:47,200
Speaker 15: one of the background sings and I'm listening to her singing.

1979
01:38:47,280 --> 01:38:51,439
Speaker 15: I'm like in tears, be intimidating, in tears. And then

1980
01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:54,320
Speaker 15: she still plays, Oh my god, she can still play. So,

1981
01:38:54,520 --> 01:38:56,200
Speaker 15: I mean, you know, she's been off the scene for

1982
01:38:56,240 --> 01:38:58,679
Speaker 15: a minute, but that she is, She is and always

1983
01:38:58,720 --> 01:39:00,559
Speaker 15: will be the Queen, the Queen.

1984
01:39:01,200 --> 01:39:03,360
Speaker 7: And how was she was she like accepting of like

1985
01:39:03,560 --> 01:39:05,439
Speaker 7: new young singers. It wasn't. I wasn't like that.

1986
01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:13,479
Speaker 2: Okay, that's I think somebody on your list who I

1987
01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:15,360
Speaker 2: want to have here, but I don't know anything about

1988
01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:15,960
Speaker 2: him personally.

1989
01:39:16,200 --> 01:39:18,920
Speaker 13: Michael Frank, Michael Franks, that was a long time ago.

1990
01:39:19,120 --> 01:39:21,080
Speaker 13: Oh my good well all of them were long time ago.

1991
01:39:22,600 --> 01:39:24,439
Speaker 3: All of them a long time ago, so long as

1992
01:39:24,439 --> 01:39:25,599
Speaker 3: you like, I don't even know, well.

1993
01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:27,519
Speaker 13: I don't remember Blue Man Group.

1994
01:39:28,439 --> 01:39:28,719
Speaker 2: Wow.

1995
01:39:29,160 --> 01:39:34,479
Speaker 13: What yeah, bun oh chromeo, you know.

1996
01:39:34,560 --> 01:39:38,160
Speaker 12: Yeah, I don't think they said Steely Dan though, well,

1997
01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:39,120
Speaker 12: you know what, that's not.

1998
01:39:39,280 --> 01:39:43,880
Speaker 13: Up there, so that might be with no but Stilley Dan.

1999
01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:48,040
Speaker 13: Stilley Dan. I did an album with with Walter Walter

2000
01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:52,400
Speaker 13: Becker and and yes, and I did.

2001
01:39:52,560 --> 01:39:56,160
Speaker 15: I did two or three tours with them, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

2002
01:39:56,400 --> 01:39:58,439
Speaker 15: And that was that was, you know, a quest that

2003
01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:00,439
Speaker 15: asked me about, you know, what I wanted to do.

2004
01:40:00,600 --> 01:40:03,160
Speaker 13: And I'd always liked Steely Dan. I would hear them

2005
01:40:03,200 --> 01:40:04,760
Speaker 13: on the radio and it's like, how did you get

2006
01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:05,160
Speaker 13: those hard?

2007
01:40:05,240 --> 01:40:07,120
Speaker 14: Yes? What's what is that?

2008
01:40:07,400 --> 01:40:07,840
Speaker 6: What is that?

2009
01:40:08,320 --> 01:40:10,800
Speaker 15: And then when they called me to sing with them,

2010
01:40:10,920 --> 01:40:14,000
Speaker 15: it's like, oh my goodness, it's like everything dropped. There

2011
01:40:14,080 --> 01:40:16,280
Speaker 15: was nothing but Steely Dan twenty four to seven in

2012
01:40:16,360 --> 01:40:18,519
Speaker 15: the house. That's all you heard twenty four seven?

2013
01:40:18,760 --> 01:40:21,160
Speaker 5: Were they super like perfectionists too? Because they were known

2014
01:40:21,200 --> 01:40:22,240
Speaker 5: for being like that in the studio.

2015
01:40:22,560 --> 01:40:23,080
Speaker 7: Was it the same?

2016
01:40:23,240 --> 01:40:23,560
Speaker 16: You know what?

2017
01:40:23,880 --> 01:40:26,240
Speaker 13: That was one of those like note for note things.

2018
01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:28,640
Speaker 15: It's like no group stuff because you know there was

2019
01:40:28,720 --> 01:40:31,680
Speaker 15: like they would like put everything together and like they

2020
01:40:31,720 --> 01:40:33,439
Speaker 15: wanted more of this and less of that. It was

2021
01:40:33,520 --> 01:40:37,920
Speaker 15: like whoa, okay, just just sing, just sing, that's all that.

2022
01:40:38,000 --> 01:40:39,920
Speaker 15: So you had to do you know what they what

2023
01:40:40,080 --> 01:40:42,280
Speaker 15: came out in the mix is like another another thing.

2024
01:40:42,520 --> 01:40:46,639
Speaker 15: But then the live performance, it's like impeccable.

2025
01:40:46,960 --> 01:40:50,840
Speaker 7: Dope, yeah, pope, the B fifty two s oh yeah, wow,

2026
01:40:50,960 --> 01:40:51,320
Speaker 7: oh yeah.

2027
01:40:51,320 --> 01:40:54,040
Speaker 15: I did that with with Nile Nah nol Rogers. And

2028
01:40:54,080 --> 01:40:55,880
Speaker 15: I also did when when I did Stevie ray Vaughan,

2029
01:40:55,920 --> 01:40:58,400
Speaker 15: that was with Na and Rick Okaseik.

2030
01:40:58,080 --> 01:40:58,559
Speaker 7: Was with Noale.

2031
01:41:00,520 --> 01:41:02,640
Speaker 8: I didn't realize No Nile did that.

2032
01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:10,720
Speaker 15: The family style Family style right before one of the

2033
01:41:10,760 --> 01:41:15,760
Speaker 15: brothers died in the helicopter accident. Yeah yeah, and then

2034
01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:17,439
Speaker 15: they made us do a video right after it.

2035
01:41:17,920 --> 01:41:19,120
Speaker 13: It's like, are you kidding me?

2036
01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:21,519
Speaker 15: I mean his brother was like so destroyed, but we

2037
01:41:21,680 --> 01:41:25,240
Speaker 15: know we did record company crap. You know, they made

2038
01:41:25,280 --> 01:41:27,720
Speaker 15: him made him do a video right after to capitalize

2039
01:41:27,760 --> 01:41:30,720
Speaker 15: off the you know, it's crazy after you did your

2040
01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:31,599
Speaker 15: solo for epic?

2041
01:41:31,800 --> 01:41:33,559
Speaker 7: Was that? Did you were you off the label?

2042
01:41:33,600 --> 01:41:33,880
Speaker 8: After that?

2043
01:41:33,960 --> 01:41:35,839
Speaker 7: Did you lead how to that situation?

2044
01:41:36,160 --> 01:41:39,960
Speaker 13: It faded away, It faded away, just all faded away.

2045
01:41:40,080 --> 01:41:40,599
Speaker 13: Just nothing.

2046
01:41:40,680 --> 01:41:43,679
Speaker 3: It's like, oh see they ain't come back asking for nothing.

2047
01:41:43,840 --> 01:41:46,760
Speaker 13: Oh no, no, nothing like that. But the business was

2048
01:41:46,760 --> 01:41:49,800
Speaker 13: straight though, you know, business was straight, you.

2049
01:41:49,840 --> 01:41:53,000
Speaker 7: Know, in too many you know, So can you can

2050
01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:53,599
Speaker 7: you describe?

2051
01:41:54,040 --> 01:41:56,240
Speaker 11: Because I'm not a singer, I always wanted to be

2052
01:41:56,320 --> 01:41:59,080
Speaker 11: a singer, But can you describe what it's like when

2053
01:41:59,120 --> 01:41:59,880
Speaker 11: you find.

2054
01:42:01,200 --> 01:42:04,439
Speaker 7: The people that your voice works with? Like what does

2055
01:42:04,479 --> 01:42:08,200
Speaker 7: that feel like? Yes?

2056
01:42:08,400 --> 01:42:10,760
Speaker 15: You can. You can just sort of relax and be

2057
01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:15,640
Speaker 15: free because the blend is so perfect and and the

2058
01:42:15,800 --> 01:42:17,840
Speaker 15: and the vibe is just so melo into. It's like

2059
01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:20,000
Speaker 15: whatever you do is just gonna be cool because you know,

2060
01:42:20,439 --> 01:42:23,320
Speaker 15: the voice is meshed so well. It's like it doesn't

2061
01:42:23,360 --> 01:42:25,000
Speaker 15: happen all the time, but when it does, it's like

2062
01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:27,160
Speaker 15: it's it's almost orgasmic.

2063
01:42:27,280 --> 01:42:29,759
Speaker 7: Who's your blend? Who's your my blend?

2064
01:42:30,120 --> 01:42:30,639
Speaker 13: My blend?

2065
01:42:31,360 --> 01:42:35,120
Speaker 7: Cindy Brenda, Like, what do you look for when you're

2066
01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:37,880
Speaker 7: when you're when you're hiring singers?

2067
01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:40,800
Speaker 13: Well, it's just can can our tonal qualities match.

2068
01:42:41,120 --> 01:42:43,240
Speaker 15: That's that's the most important thing, because it might be

2069
01:42:43,320 --> 01:42:46,200
Speaker 15: different genres of music, but you know, we still the

2070
01:42:46,320 --> 01:42:48,560
Speaker 15: tonal qualities have to match so we can blend to

2071
01:42:48,920 --> 01:42:50,479
Speaker 15: fit into whatever it is we're doing.

2072
01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:53,320
Speaker 7: And you still play correct.

2073
01:42:54,360 --> 01:42:55,960
Speaker 13: I play, I play in the house. I don't play

2074
01:42:56,000 --> 01:42:59,920
Speaker 13: out you know, you know lit some something.

2075
01:43:01,240 --> 01:43:05,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, well i'm over too, but I'm I'm willing to.

2076
01:43:07,320 --> 01:43:11,240
Speaker 18: All right, there's a Danish Uh, there's a Danish pianist

2077
01:43:11,320 --> 01:43:12,040
Speaker 18: named old Cock.

2078
01:43:12,120 --> 01:43:13,920
Speaker 8: Hanson ever worked with him?

2079
01:43:16,040 --> 01:43:16,559
Speaker 14: Look it up?

2080
01:43:18,280 --> 01:43:19,800
Speaker 7: Looking at I don't know.

2081
01:43:20,280 --> 01:43:21,320
Speaker 14: All right, Well, I don't know.

2082
01:43:21,479 --> 01:43:22,120
Speaker 8: I'm over three.

2083
01:43:22,200 --> 01:43:25,080
Speaker 12: Then that was another money.

2084
01:43:26,760 --> 01:43:28,840
Speaker 7: Just old Cock hanted holy ship.

2085
01:43:29,040 --> 01:43:32,960
Speaker 13: Yeah sorry, I had no comment.

2086
01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:34,760
Speaker 12: I didn't have to walk upbout her old Cock.

2087
01:43:34,840 --> 01:43:43,280
Speaker 3: It got really uncomfortable, right, what happened?

2088
01:43:44,640 --> 01:43:44,840
Speaker 7: That's what.

2089
01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:48,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's a real dude. I was kidding, but that's

2090
01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:49,640
Speaker 8: a real dude. It's spelled with a k.

2091
01:43:50,040 --> 01:44:07,320
Speaker 5: Okay, just make it better, Okay at the end, Okay, seriously,

2092
01:44:08,200 --> 01:44:09,720
Speaker 5: thank you so much for coming on the show.

2093
01:44:09,800 --> 01:44:12,000
Speaker 13: It's been a pleasure. I had a ball. I had

2094
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:13,599
Speaker 13: a ball, and I said i'd have fun.

2095
01:44:13,840 --> 01:44:15,240
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, and thank you.

2096
01:44:15,360 --> 01:44:18,439
Speaker 11: Just correct he actually, yeah, one more thing I told

2097
01:44:18,520 --> 01:44:20,640
Speaker 11: mister and this, But Juicy Fruit was one of the

2098
01:44:20,720 --> 01:44:22,880
Speaker 11: first songs I ever remember hearing. Like, there's a a

2099
01:44:22,960 --> 01:44:25,599
Speaker 11: list about maybe ten songs that like are the first

2100
01:44:25,680 --> 01:44:26,360
Speaker 11: ones that I remember.

2101
01:44:26,400 --> 01:44:27,240
Speaker 14: You didn't get hit for it.

2102
01:44:27,400 --> 01:44:29,160
Speaker 7: No, I didn't get here for it. It was a

2103
01:44:29,200 --> 01:44:31,960
Speaker 7: neighbors record. She had it, and she was always playing it.

2104
01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:33,840
Speaker 7: It was like one of those songs that is stuck

2105
01:44:33,880 --> 01:44:34,200
Speaker 7: in my head.

2106
01:44:34,200 --> 01:44:36,320
Speaker 11: And like every time I hear Juicy Fruit, it always

2107
01:44:36,320 --> 01:44:38,440
Speaker 11: feels like I'm having a very special experience.

2108
01:44:38,840 --> 01:44:40,760
Speaker 7: So I just want to thank you for that. It's

2109
01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:44,320
Speaker 7: I carry that with me for years.

2110
01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:47,920
Speaker 13: I'm so happy that you received it. Thank you, Thank you.

2111
01:44:47,960 --> 01:44:48,600
Speaker 13: I appreciate that.

2112
01:44:48,720 --> 01:44:48,880
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2113
01:44:48,880 --> 01:44:51,280
Speaker 8: I've been cheating juicy fruit for about forty years.

2114
01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:56,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, just bought it just to watch.

2115
01:44:56,560 --> 01:44:59,040
Speaker 8: This is weird. I bought this like weeks ago and

2116
01:44:59,120 --> 01:44:59,719
Speaker 8: it just ended.

2117
01:44:59,640 --> 01:44:59,880
Speaker 7: Up in my.

2118
01:45:01,479 --> 01:45:03,400
Speaker 11: I will tell you a really weird coincidence with this

2119
01:45:03,520 --> 01:45:06,800
Speaker 11: interview though, Like I had a flood my story June

2120
01:45:06,800 --> 01:45:08,040
Speaker 11: about two years ago, and a whole bunch of my

2121
01:45:08,080 --> 01:45:11,160
Speaker 11: records got damage, and about two weeks about a week before,

2122
01:45:11,240 --> 01:45:13,320
Speaker 11: you sent me an email saying that this interview was confirmed.

2123
01:45:13,640 --> 01:45:15,920
Speaker 11: I replaced my copy of Tawatha's debut album.

2124
01:45:16,120 --> 01:45:20,360
Speaker 3: Oh my, really how much that she got for.

2125
01:45:23,560 --> 01:45:24,040
Speaker 7: That much?

2126
01:45:24,720 --> 01:45:25,439
Speaker 13: If that much?

2127
01:45:26,200 --> 01:45:27,200
Speaker 7: So it's kind of weird.

2128
01:45:27,720 --> 01:45:30,120
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, I just you know, replaced my copy of

2129
01:45:30,280 --> 01:45:33,760
Speaker 11: the album We got to coming in now, coming in

2130
01:45:34,479 --> 01:45:34,800
Speaker 11: the show.

2131
01:45:35,800 --> 01:45:39,960
Speaker 5: Well, yes, we thank you so much and I appreciate

2132
01:45:41,479 --> 01:45:44,840
Speaker 5: all those weeks I was sent to my room. It

2133
01:45:44,960 --> 01:45:47,080
Speaker 5: was worth it for defying my parents and buying that

2134
01:45:47,160 --> 01:45:51,840
Speaker 5: forty five. I hope you enjoyed it or be half

2135
01:45:52,120 --> 01:45:55,320
Speaker 5: of Sugar Steve and this Sugar Steve Network.

2136
01:45:56,000 --> 01:46:10,600
Speaker 7: You're hilarious. You're hilarious girl. Is that what I'm saying? Now?

2137
01:46:10,640 --> 01:46:11,760
Speaker 7: You've got me wanting to do the end of you

2138
01:46:11,840 --> 01:46:12,160
Speaker 7: me and he.

2139
01:46:22,400 --> 01:46:26,080
Speaker 13: What what what I understood when you had another?

2140
01:46:27,560 --> 01:46:34,720
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, humans, I was human too.

2141
01:46:36,640 --> 01:46:39,000
Speaker 5: All right, listen, we want be half a fan Tickelot,

2142
01:46:39,200 --> 01:46:41,519
Speaker 5: Boss Bill, Sugar Steve, unpaid Bill.

2143
01:46:42,200 --> 01:46:47,320
Speaker 7: It's like EA and the the the amazing great mister

2144
01:46:47,400 --> 01:46:48,760
Speaker 7: Watha g thank you so much.

2145
01:46:48,680 --> 01:46:50,000
Speaker 13: For coming on the pleasure.

2146
01:46:50,120 --> 01:46:51,080
Speaker 7: Thanks you, pledge.

2147
01:46:51,200 --> 01:46:51,920
Speaker 13: I had a fall.

2148
01:46:52,280 --> 01:46:55,400
Speaker 5: This is Quest Love another episode Quest Love Supreme in

2149
01:46:55,520 --> 01:46:56,959
Speaker 5: the can only on Pandora.

2150
01:46:57,160 --> 01:47:20,240
Speaker 16: And We'll see you on the Next Go Round Sequest.

2151
01:47:09,600 --> 01:47:13,479
Speaker 1: Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. This classic episode

2152
01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:19,879
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