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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome back to the Betting Pros Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Dan Harris. I'm me on Twitter at Dan

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Speaker 1: Harris eighty. It is time to tak an early look

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Speaker 1: at the week twelve NFL lines. With me to do

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Speaker 1: that is Joe Piece of Pa. Find him on Twitter

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Speaker 1: at Joe pis at PS seventeen. Joe, Almost time for Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: It's my favorite holiday, Joe. I'm not gonna lie. I

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Speaker 1: love the three football games. It is like I will

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Speaker 1: just sit there and I don't care the fact that

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Speaker 1: the first game on Thursday might be the worst game

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Speaker 1: in the history of the NFL. I am going to

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Speaker 1: eat it up with my stuffman and my turkey, and

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Speaker 1: I'm going to get into it. How are you Are

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Speaker 1: you ready for the big holiday?

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Speaker 2: I am? And that's spoken like a man who isn't

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Speaker 2: actually cooking Thanksgiving. This man is every year, He's always

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Speaker 2: doing it. So what happens is this, I typically get

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Speaker 2: to see the early game, which is always the Lions,

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Speaker 2: which is frustrated, and then then I don't see anything

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Speaker 2: usually again until somewhere at nine o'clock at night. So

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Speaker 2: I have to get always caught up on all that

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Speaker 2: that that Cowboys game in the middle of the day,

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Speaker 2: I'll like, I'll hear things from the living room and

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Speaker 2: I'll have to go in and say what happened? What happened,

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Speaker 2: and somebody will tell me. But at least now I've

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Speaker 2: trained my children that they are much more knowledgeable about

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Speaker 2: the players and what's going on. So they are actually

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Speaker 2: very useful now in this account. So to anybody male

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Speaker 2: or female out there, train your children so that when

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Speaker 2: the hell they're talking about. This is an important skill

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Speaker 2: as a parent. I encourage you all to do this.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to go a different route, and I'm going

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Speaker 1: to say that what you should do is make sure

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Speaker 2: Your Thanksgiving, I think you were the degenerate.

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Speaker 1: And I am again right, and I'm coming off a

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Speaker 1: and Wyoming. And Joe, you have done this before. You

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Speaker 1: know what we do. We take an early look, early

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Speaker 1: reaction at the week twelve lines. We have talked about

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Speaker 1: this before we started. My friend, neither one of us

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Speaker 1: likes to look at them before we do this podcast.

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Speaker 1: This is actually the first time that we will help

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Speaker 1: see emmy lines. And I assume, Joe, do you still

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Speaker 2: Do you typically I have more time to do that

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Speaker 2: all these Thanksgiving games right off the bat, I know

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Speaker 2: exactly what these lines should be in my head, so

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Speaker 1: So let's start, of course with the game that everybody

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Speaker 1: right now. Total is forty two on the low side,

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Speaker 1: so Joe. Of course. By the way, we don't know

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Speaker 2: He And the very first Thanksgiving I ever got to

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Speaker 1: Think I'm in agreement with you. It is at four

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Speaker 1: that's the Betting Pros consensus line. So Betting Pros has

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, let's go. So I think that

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Speaker 1: This is the Cowboys, of course, at home on Thanksgiving

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Speaker 1: against the Raiders, laying seven and the total is fifty

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Speaker 1: it's a touchdown fifty and a half, fairly high total.

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Speaker 2: Well for me, I A would said this number at

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Speaker 2: confidence in a Cowboys team that's been very erradical these

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Speaker 2: of that and the disarray as you put it, that

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Speaker 2: the Las Vegas Raiders are in. To me, the under

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Speaker 2: pretty much like a because right now you say that

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Speaker 2: over under is what number? It is?

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Speaker 1: Fifty and a half fifteen.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I see on FANDLE they've got a fifty one.

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Speaker 1: Vandal is fifty one. Yeah, So I would run.

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Speaker 2: To wherever the highest over under I could get. If

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Speaker 2: it's fifty one, I would take that, especially because you

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Speaker 2: know that that.

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Speaker 1: Is the only book, Joe fascinating. That's the only buck

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Speaker 1: at fifty one right now. Every other book is fifty

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I would take that fifty one. And here's

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Speaker 2: what I would do. I think this is this feels

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Speaker 2: very much like a twenty seventeen kind of a game.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you're gonna see prolific offense in this game,

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Speaker 2: necessarily so. And I also do not want to muck

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Speaker 2: whatsoever with the seven. I don't want anything to do

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Speaker 2: with that. I don't define the over unders the way

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Speaker 2: you go here. And if you want to make some

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Speaker 2: money plus two sixty five on the money line for

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Speaker 2: the Raiders in this game.

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Speaker 1: So you think that the Raiders are going to be

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Speaker 1: able to could win this game, then.

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Speaker 2: What I'm saying is they they absolutely could win this game.

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Speaker 2: It's not to be the first time in recent memory

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Speaker 2: that the Cowboys disappointed Jerry Jones on Thanksgiving. Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, the Josh Allen bills, Right,

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Speaker 1: One constructive. You know, I just can't do it.

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Speaker 2: And I think what the Jets need is just more

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Speaker 2: capability at the quarterback position. If they have that, they

434
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Speaker 2: can be a more competitive team. But for right now,

435
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Speaker 2: I think the lean is the Texans on the minus three,

436
00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:23,520
Speaker 2: and I think that's the right way. I mean, it's

437
00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,280
Speaker 2: hard to have confidence with the Jets winning out right

438
00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,560
Speaker 2: on the road. And even so, he's not exactly getting

439
00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,280
Speaker 2: like an enormous number on that like you're getting on

440
00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,480
Speaker 2: the Raiders the plus two sixty five. It's a plus

441
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Speaker 2: one thirty here for the Jets.

442
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Speaker 1: Right yeah, I imagine gonna go out on the limb

443
00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,720
Speaker 1: and say that this is the least bet game of

444
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Speaker 1: the week, you know, in Vegas or Jersey or wherever

445
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Speaker 1: you are.

446
00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:45,200
Speaker 2: On Jersey, was put the money on his Jets because

447
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Speaker 2: Flacco is good.

448
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Speaker 1: As said true Vega. He did throw over almost three

449
00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:52,520
Speaker 1: hundred yards against the miamiy of it to Elijah Moore,

450
00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:58,080
Speaker 1: that's true. Hey maybe again, Yeah, I lean Texans laying three,

451
00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,199
Speaker 1: but it's certainly not out of the realm of possibilities.

452
00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,760
Speaker 1: The Jets win this game, and you know, you could

453
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Speaker 1: see the idea the Texans could have a letdout spot.

454
00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,320
Speaker 1: But still, you know, to have that Giant win against Tennessee,

455
00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,720
Speaker 1: like you could just see a little deflating. But first,

456
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Speaker 1: if it gets beyond three, certainly have no interest in it,

457
00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,160
Speaker 1: you know, whatever either way, because I really can't back

458
00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,280
Speaker 1: the Jets. This one's a tough one, Joe. And again

459
00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,480
Speaker 1: we're recording this on Monday, early morning, so certainly no

460
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Speaker 1: Monday night football yet with the Bucks. But the Bucks

461
00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,080
Speaker 1: are going to Indy. As of right now, they are

462
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Speaker 1: laying two and a half and the total is fifty one. Now,

463
00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,160
Speaker 1: this may move and it is three at FanDuel, of course,

464
00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,359
Speaker 1: because Fandel likes to be a little different than every

465
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Speaker 1: other book in the market. Let's assume, Joe, we have

466
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Speaker 1: no major injuries tonight for the Bucks. Let's assume they

467
00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,160
Speaker 1: look essentially as people are expecting, and they win by

468
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Speaker 1: ten points tonight against the Giants. No major injuries. Bucks

469
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Speaker 1: visiting Indy two and a half, what do you think?

470
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I see the three over there on FanDuel.

471
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Speaker 1: That's why I said, yeah, it was always that, always

472
00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,120
Speaker 1: that outline, which is why I like.

473
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Speaker 2: To wager there because I think it's a little looser.

474
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Speaker 1: You know what's funny is DraftKings. This is a good

475
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Speaker 1: point prop bets, which is what I like to do.

476
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Speaker 1: DraftKings is so like every time I have an edge

477
00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,600
Speaker 1: though in a prop bet, like our general market, because

478
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Speaker 1: a betting pros a game we also do like aggregate

479
00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,919
Speaker 1: props and stuff like that. In books betting pros line, Uh,

480
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Speaker 1: draftings line on these props is always just a little

481
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Speaker 1: sharper than like every other book, And I'm like, oh,

482
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Speaker 1: I like this up to twenty six and a half

483
00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,919
Speaker 1: yards and it's like twenty you know four in other books,

484
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Speaker 1: and the stupid DraftKings always twenty seven. So the different

485
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Speaker 1: books really matters. Obviously, Vandal is a little bit outlier here, Joe,

486
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Speaker 1: and like every single one, they've got a little something special.

487
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Speaker 1: So does the three to two and a half make

488
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Speaker 1: a difference to you?

489
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Speaker 2: Not so much, because this is a game already that

490
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Speaker 2: I really want no part of, and we haven't seen

491
00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 2: the bucks bounce back. Yet, as you said, they play

492
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,119
Speaker 2: Monday night football, and I think that they will. And

493
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,479
Speaker 2: I think defensively, you know, this is still a very

494
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Speaker 2: good team defense, but you still got Tom Brady. But

495
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Speaker 2: I think the Cults are a lot better than people realize.

496
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Speaker 2: And I just I think that every year, and most

497
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 2: years I'm right about because even last year, remember people

498
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Speaker 2: say that Occults are terrible team, and I'm like, I

499
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:08,600
Speaker 2: don't know, man. You could see all the pieces there

500
00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 2: and you could see if they all start to get

501
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,359
Speaker 2: going here. Now, the hard part about this is what

502
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 2: the Cults do best, which is running the football. Jonathan

503
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 2: Taylor is the one thing that obviously the Bucks do

504
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 2: the best, which is stop the run. So because when

505
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:24,960
Speaker 2: those two things, what the the immovable object meets the

506
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,719
Speaker 2: irresistible force, irresistible force of Dan Harris, which is irresistible.

507
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,639
Speaker 2: Everybody knows that not quite That to me is always

508
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Speaker 2: something from a wagering standpoint. When you start to look

509
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Speaker 2: at four outcome games, which is something you and I

510
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,359
Speaker 2: talk about quite a daity, you could see the outcome

511
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 2: where it's a blowout on one of these sides. You

512
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,760
Speaker 2: could also see one of these teams winning close, and

513
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,239
Speaker 2: I hate that. That's four different outcomes. To me, it's

514
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Speaker 2: not a vestable game. So I would just run away

515
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Speaker 2: from this game altogether because I think these two teams

516
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Speaker 2: are closer than people realize. Now, if the Bucks struggle

517
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Speaker 2: against the Giants, then maybe you start to look at

518
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Speaker 2: that plus three and that plus three or three and

519
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,680
Speaker 2: a half maybe becomes or I don't know, but if

520
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,639
Speaker 2: it or maybe it's its eyes is down, excuse me,

521
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 2: from sorry, not to four, two to two and a

522
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Speaker 2: half maybe Wheast. I like, it's a little bit tighter here.

523
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 2: If it gets tighter, that tells you where things are

524
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Speaker 2: going a little bit. So to me, right now, watch

525
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 2: very carefully Monday at football how good the Bucks look,

526
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 2: because if they kind of look blackluster here a little

527
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,640
Speaker 2: bit against the Giants team, then all of a sudden

528
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 2: the Coults, I think, become slightly more investible in this game.

529
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Speaker 2: They really do, and it's unfortunately you can't get ahead

530
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Speaker 2: of it because I want to see what happens to

531
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Speaker 2: the Bucks after that lost to Washington. Washington might just

532
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Speaker 2: be that team that has their number the way they

533
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Speaker 2: almost did in the playoffs. Like there's some teams that

534
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:37,879
Speaker 2: just play you tougher even though they're not in your

535
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,199
Speaker 2: same class. And that happens in the NFL. For some

536
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 2: whatever reason, some teams just give other teams problems. You know,

537
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 2: why is that team giving this team problem? This team

538
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 2: is significantly more talented. It's just sometimes the nature of

539
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 2: the beast. This is a game I don't feel comfortable

540
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 2: with right now, Dan, and I don't even know after

541
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 2: the outcome of tonight's game if I'll feel more comfortable

542
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Speaker 2: with it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you and the Colts also, First

544
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Speaker 1: of all, a kudos to the Colts, who I feel

545
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Speaker 1: like and Frank right because I feel like Indianapolis the

546
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 1: season could have gone off the rails at like he's

547
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 1: a great football coach, Dann four different points this year,

548
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,160
Speaker 1: right backbreaking loss to the Ravens. Okay, man, you can't

549
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 1: bounce back from that, right, and then they do they're

550
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,360
Speaker 1: six and five. Suddenly you've got cracks now with the Titans,

551
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 1: and suddenly they're like, oh, I mean the Titans obviously

552
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,919
Speaker 1: have won both games, so that's what it's but losing

553
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 1: that one, they just keep fighting. Man. Yeah, I agree.

554
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,360
Speaker 1: I like the Colts, And again, the Bucks run defense,

555
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 1: the vaunted run defense hasn't been that great lately. And

556
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 1: again they're down Vida Vaa right now. Don't know when

557
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 1: he's going to be able to come back. That's a

558
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 1: huge difference. And you know their secondary is not great,

559
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 1: and this could be a game where you could finally

560
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,120
Speaker 1: really you know, target Michael Pittman more than the five

561
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 1: or six times you get it and move the ball.

562
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:43,919
Speaker 1: So it's interesting. And again the Bucks are going to

563
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 1: be coming off a short week. But I agree with you, Joe,

564
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Speaker 1: it's just not a game I feel real comfortable.

565
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 2: And handicapping THEFS game. It's not a good wagering game.

566
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 2: You can invest in it that way, but I'll and

567
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 2: if there's a Pittman individual prop for receiving, that's something

568
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Speaker 2: I would strongly consider.

569
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Speaker 1: Whatever it is you're just going over, huh, I like

570
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Speaker 1: it all right. Titans visiting the Patriots, Joe, this is

571
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Speaker 1: going to be a really, really intriguing game. I look

572
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: forward to. Oh god, this is my nightmare, the Titans.

573
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 2: Let's go.

574
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Speaker 1: The Pats are laying five and a half points. Total

575
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: is pretty small here, forty four and a half. Obviously,

576
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Speaker 1: you have all the injuries on the Titan side, where

577
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Speaker 1: I guess Nick Westbrook Akina is probably going to be

578
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Speaker 1: their number one watchers this week. Given the fact that

579
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Speaker 1: aj Brown of course left the last game with a

580
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: chester shoulder injury. We haven't heard anything about it, but

581
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Speaker 1: it does sound like from the people who are pining

582
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 1: on it at that moment, that he might miss time.

583
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 1: Marcus Johnson left, Julio Jones is still on ir they

584
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: have no running backs. Ryan Tanhel through four interceptions on

585
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Speaker 1: the other side of the Patriots, who at the moment,

586
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Speaker 1: at the moment, look like a dominant force right now

587
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Speaker 1: in the NFL. So what do you think, Joe? Is

588
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Speaker 1: this a bilo cell high situation or are the Patriots

589
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 1: just going to keep running normally?

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Speaker 2: I would say it is a bilo so high. And

591
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying this because they're the Patriots and they're

592
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Speaker 2: quote team, and I do not see the world through

593
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Speaker 2: the Patriot colored glasses. And that's one of the things

594
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 2: that drives Bogman crazy because I hate how rational about

595
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 2: Patriots fan you are. It drives me nuts because he's

596
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,679
Speaker 2: a Steelers fan. He's like, you're the worst. But I

597
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,239
Speaker 2: will say this, from a defensive standpoint, you should be

598
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 2: very concerned about the Tannehill turnovers and the way the

599
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 2: Patriots are leading the league in turnovers right now. That

600
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 2: is a terrible combination of things. And you mentioned all

601
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Speaker 2: the defunct weapons. Means you're basically out of rhythm with

602
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 2: the other pieces, like there's no consistency, and the consistency

603
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 2: or inconsistency sometimes does lead to turnovers because guys aren't

604
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 2: running the right route, guys aren't in the right place necessarily.

605
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 2: There's a lot of those intangible things that we don't

606
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 2: talk about enough, I think in fantasy sometimes. But from

607
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 2: a wagering standpoint, I think you could take that and

608
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 2: put it right into this game. I think the New

609
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 2: England five and a half is actually a pretty comfortable

610
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 2: number right now. I think there's a chance this could

611
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Speaker 2: even grow depending on how the money comes in. The

612
00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 2: five and a half is something I'm comfortable with right

613
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 2: now on the Patriots side, because Mac Jones is doing enough.

614
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 2: They are not a great offensive team. They are an

615
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Speaker 2: efficient offensive team, which when you play great defense and

616
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 2: you have efficient offense and multiple guys who can run

617
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 2: the football and control clock. Forty four and a half

618
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 2: I think is a spot on number. I want nothing

619
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 2: to do with that. But it's very hard to imagine

620
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 2: that the Patriots aren't going to give mac Jones a

621
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Speaker 2: short field or score a touchdown of their own in

622
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 2: this game. And I think when you enter that that's

623
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Speaker 2: the six that I'm looking for right now. That's the

624
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 2: sick point. Where am I getting that extra six points from?

625
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 2: And I think it is from the defense making a

626
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 2: play and either a pick six because that's what they've

627
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 2: been doing here these last few weeks, or getting a

628
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 2: turnover in creating a short field for Mac Jones and

629
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,199
Speaker 2: this offense. And that's the extra six you need in

630
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 2: this game, because I think you take that out of it.

631
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 2: This is a very close game theoretically, especially because Rabel

632
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 2: knows and I think there's a little bit of still

633
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 2: a little sore spot there for Rabel showing a Belichick

634
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 2: in that playoff game a few years ago and winning

635
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Speaker 2: a New England. I feel like this is a game

636
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,360
Speaker 2: that Bill Belichick guess circled and they're gonna be ready.

637
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 2: But that extra six is what you're looking for. That's

638
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 2: where you're gonna find it, and I think you will. Therefore,

639
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:11,360
Speaker 2: I like New England in this game. Good argument, isn't.

640
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: It, And that's a good argument. I'm not trying to

641
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: make the other argument. I'm more trying to figure out

642
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,199
Speaker 1: how I feel about this, and so I think what

643
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: I looked at, Joe is, first of all, I mean

644
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: I loved the Texans getting the ten. Yes, whatever, I

645
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: loved it. I mean, I you huge because you knew

646
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 1: that you knew that the Titans were not nearly as

647
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 1: good as they had looked over the last couple of games.

648
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 1: I had some fluky defensive plays without Derrick Henry. Okay,

649
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: then they got injured, the weather was terrible. But your point, Joe,

650
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 1: about the fact that these backup weapons Tannehill through four interceptions. Yeah,

651
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: at least two of them. Seemed pretty clearly that the

652
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: receiver round the wrong route because he's playing with just

653
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: backup guys. I mean again, forget about AJ Brown and

654
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 1: Julio Jones, like even Marcus Johnson like pulled up with

655
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: a hammy at you know, early on in that game

656
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 1: he was out. They had absolutely nothing, and chances are

657
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 1: they're going to have nothing again. And I had no

658
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 1: running game to speak up.

659
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,719
Speaker 2: As a bad scene when you have Phillips mccordy Kyle Duggar.

660
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 2: These guys are vultures for the foot. They It's crazy

661
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 2: how smart they are in terms of anticipating what quarterbacks

662
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,120
Speaker 2: are going to do. And it's because of how hard

663
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 2: they work in the study. But I think you'd agree

664
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 2: with this notion. These are two teams on paper that

665
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 2: I think are pretty close. Right, Yeah, so to five

666
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 2: and a half, you have to find the extra six.

667
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 2: Where does it come from? And the extra six comes

668
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 2: from the Patriots defense creating that, and I think it's

669
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 2: it would not be shocking to me if they create

670
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 2: an extra twelve in this game. But I think they're

671
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 2: at least going to create the extra six and even

672
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 2: create the extra six on your own there. This is

673
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 2: a tough day at the office, I think for Ryan Tannehill,

674
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 2: and I think it's a tough day for the Tennessee

675
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 2: team that you know, everybody's like, oh, look how good

676
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 2: they are without Dereck Henry. But it might have been

677
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 2: a bit of a smoke and mirrors kind of act

678
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 2: a little bit.

679
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: Seems too easy for me, honestly to take the Pats

680
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: because it just looks like it. But we'll have to

681
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: see for me. Right now, stay away this line I

682
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: could see moving depending on how the injury news works out.

683
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm not to stay away. I was wrong,

684
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: by the way, Joe, I apologize. I said that the

685
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: least bet game of the week is going to be

686
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: the Jets and the Texans. It might in fact be

687
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: the Falcons visiting the Jaguars, where the Jaguars are getting

688
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: a point. I like the fact that the Falcons are

689
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: favored by over anyone right now. The totals forty seven

690
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: and a half. Now, again, of course we still have

691
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: the Will Cordero Patterson play in this game, and that

692
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: does make a difference to the Atlanta offense, of course,

693
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: and they're embarrassed on national television that you get the

694
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: mini by here, the Jaguars are the Jaguars. Whatever, Joe,

695
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: what would you like to say about this game? One

696
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: point going to the Jaguars forty seven and a half.

697
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 2: Give me the Falcons because I think the Falcons are

698
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 2: a better football team the Jacksonville Jaguars. They just are.

699
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 2: And I think at this point, even though they were

700
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 2: embarrassed by the Patriots, and I you would hope that

701
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 2: you know, you can get enough out of Matt Ryan

702
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 2: and this wide receiver corps of what's left of it

703
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 2: to win this football game. And I understand it's terrifying,

704
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 2: and I'm not surprised it's a bit of a pick him,

705
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 2: to be honest, I thought it was a two and

706
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 2: a half minus three coming in for the Falcons, but

707
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 2: the fact that it's closer to basically have at it,

708
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 2: I would have had it with the Falcons because I

709
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 2: do still believe in Matt Ryan with a little extra

710
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 2: time to prepare. The problem is that that Falcons offensive

711
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 2: line has been absolutely dreadful, so if Josh Allen and

712
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 2: company do get to him, that can pay some problems

713
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 2: in this game. However, I was weirdly impressed by Quadre

714
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 2: Allison running the football. I think that he had more

715
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 2: bursts than we've seen from Mike Davis, and I know

716
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about this later on the way of

717
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 2: Wire Pond to get more bursts than Wayne Gallman. And

718
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 2: I don't know how much carry he's going to get

719
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:43,719
Speaker 2: in this game, but I think Cordello Patterson, even if

720
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 2: he is healthy, is needed catching the football. I think

721
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 2: what you're going to have to do here is kind

722
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 2: of rethink everything. And Arthur Smith also needs to absolutely

723
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 2: crush this team because of the mistakes and penalties they made.

724
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 2: They had so many bad mistakes, so many bad penalties.

725
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 2: I think if you could just tighten that up a

726
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 2: little bit, I think you can win this book. So

727
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 2: I will take the Atlanta right now in this game.

728
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 2: I would take him to win outright if it was

729
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 2: a better number, But it's not right now, which is

730
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 2: kind of surprising. Like, you know, the minus one twenty

731
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 2: is you know, if this was just even a flat

732
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 2: like a one oh five or something like that, i'd say, yeah,

733
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 2: let's just go that. But the minus one twenty, I

734
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 2: think it's kind of frustrating. So just take the Falcons

735
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 2: in the minus one twelve there or whatever it ends

736
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 2: up being, with the minus one right now, and I

737
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:22,959
Speaker 2: think that's the way you go, and stay away from

738
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 2: the over under because who the hell knows how that

739
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 2: gonna look.

740
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. Actually, you know, as you were talking

741
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: in the instant reaction, I do agree that I think

742
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: the Falcons are the right play. Again, the Falcons. The

743
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: Patriots defense is great, so the fact that they got

744
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: shut out without Cordero Patterson, who, by the way, as

745
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: much as you know, whatever the ankle sprain. Is like,

746
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: he wasn't ruled out at that game until earlier, there's crush.

747
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: He wasn't rolled out that game until very very you know,

748
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: late in the process. So that was encouraging for a

749
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: Thursday game. Now it gets ten extra days if he

750
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: can play. But they did move the ball at someone,

751
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: even though Ryan was limited because he got hurt a

752
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: little bit in that game and that the Patriots are

753
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: getting after him, they moved the ball into the Paths

754
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: territory a couple of times. They weren't that far off

755
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: from sort of you know, getting to Yeah, they missed

756
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: it right, they got actually converted it and then they

757
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: had a penalty right and then missed it. So they

758
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: had a chance to put up some points at least

759
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: against a very good defense. So yeah, I agree with you.

760
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: And if I have the chance to go against Urban Meyer,

761
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: I'm going to do it. So I like it. Eagles

762
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: against the Giants again, Joe. We don't know what we're

763
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: going to see tonight, but sounds like they're going to

764
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: have pretty much everybody but Sterling Shepherd back. At this point,

765
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: the Eagles are coming in ride and high, laying three

766
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: and a half into New Jersey and the total is

767
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: forty six and a half. Divisional game. Joe always dicey,

768
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: what do you think?

769
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 2: I hate this. I hate to say it, but I

770
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 2: like the Eagles in this game. I think the Eagles

771
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 2: are starting to be confident, and the defense has been

772
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 2: pretty good all year. I think we could all like

773
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 2: the defense have been okay.

774
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: Underrated by the way nobody talks about them. People don't

775
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: like them, Joe, but I always do.

776
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 2: On the Joe we talked about the Eagles defense over

777
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 2: there on Fantasy Pros. But yeah, you know, Bog and

778
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 2: I had a big conversation, actually a heart to heart

779
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 2: I felt like about a week or two ago about

780
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 2: this Eagles defense and saying, you know what, They're starting

781
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 2: to play better as a unit. They've always been pretty

782
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 2: good in terms of slowing down the run. I think

783
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 2: a lot of this game has to do with just

784
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 2: how healthy Saquon Barkley is, because that's the difference maker guy,

785
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 2: Like he's the one weapon the Giants have that if

786
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 2: he is truly healthy, and again we don't have that

787
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 2: input yet. So this is another reason why you're watching

788
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 2: that game closely because it has an impact on two

789
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 2: games significantly looking ahead at week twelve. But I think

790
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 2: when you're starting to look at a week eleven coming

791
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 2: out of that, if sakuwon, Barkley looks fantastic again, it

792
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 2: looks like Saquon Barkley in that game, then all of

793
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 2: a sudden, this becomes a fascinating potential upset special for

794
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 2: the Giants because they are at home, and because it

795
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 2: is the Eagles, and because this is them fighting for

796
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 2: their season. But I have a hard time believing that

797
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 2: and a hard time buying that until I see it.

798
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 2: So up until I see that, I'm going to take

799
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 2: the Eagle side of this game in the three because

800
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 2: it feels just about right. We talk about it like,

801
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 2: you know, it's at three where it looks like the

802
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 2: better team but the better teams on the row is

803
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 2: gonna be just a free number. I think you take

804
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 2: that number right now, and I think the Eagles and

805
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts is playing well, and DeVante Smith looks like

806
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 2: things are clicking for him. Yeah, five thousand running backs,

807
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 2: which means you really don't have one, but that also

808
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 2: makes it better in the sense because you have options,

809
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 2: you have depth there at the running back position, and

810
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,399
Speaker 2: you have a guys who are gonna be fresh every

811
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 2: time you put somebody out there, and I think that

812
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 2: takes a toll of defense as well as time goes on.

813
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 2: And something you saw in the Patriot game when you

814
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 2: can run Harris who runs hard, and then run Stevenson

815
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 2: who looks like everyone keeps talking about lager Blunt, he

816
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 2: looks a little bit more like Marshall Lynch to me lately,

817
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 2: the way he looks for contact and is knocking guys over.

818
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 2: You have a physical back there in Jordan Howard. You

819
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 2: have a Boston Scott, and then you have Howard.

820
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 1: Did get injured though Joe in this game he made

821
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 1: I don't know for sure. He left in the third

822
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: quarter with the knee injuries, so he maybe I don't know, yeah, And.

823
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 2: If so, then you're gonna go back to Miles Sanders

824
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 2: and you're gonna go back to you know, keV Gainwell,

825
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: who was inactive I believe for this past her. So

826
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 2: you have fresh legs theoretically, no matter what. And that's

827
00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 2: the one thing at the running back position that it's

828
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 2: hard to this time of year. The Eagles have that

829
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,240
Speaker 2: have Jalen Hurts run the football. I like the Eagles

830
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 2: in this game.

831
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's first of all, it's three at Fandle,

832
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: it's three at DraftKings, it's three and a half everywhere else.

833
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: So it's interesting. Yeah, it's everywhere else, Like I'm looking

834
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: at it right now. We bet America is the only

835
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: other three out there right now. Everybody else is three

836
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 1: and a half. This seems like a pretty obvious spot

837
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,919
Speaker 1: to take the Eagles, just because they are riding high,

838
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: which makes me nervous a little bit about it. But

839
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: their formula right now, which is we are going to

840
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: run the heck out of the ball NonStop. And again

841
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: it's made much easier by the fact that you have

842
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 1: a running quarterback like Jalen Hurts, who carried the ball

843
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: eighteen times yesterday. We have two guys Dallas Goddard and

844
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: Devonte Smith who when we do throw the ball we

845
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: have absolute faith that they are going to be able

846
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: to pull it in. That's a good formula, Joe, and

847
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 1: rely on the on the on the running.

848
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 2: What does this number if the Giants get obliterated tonight

849
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 2: against Tampa. I mean, it's not gonna move to like no, no,

850
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 2: but it's gonna move four and a half five see

851
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 2: and that, and that's why I think if you like

852
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 2: the Eagles, you lock in the three on DK or

853
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 2: fan for.

854
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: Us we can lock into three on DK. Yes, I

855
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: agree against the divisional game. Man, it makes me a

856
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,919
Speaker 1: little word where you know, right, but yeah, let's see

857
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: how things look tonight. But idalan the I think I

858
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: would have to four and.

859
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 2: A half if the if the Giants got tobliterate it

860
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 2: and given obviously class at the box, but still if

861
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 2: Saque doesn't look good, they get obliterated in this game,

862
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 2: this line's gonna grow.

863
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: And if the Giants lose this game, assuming that they

864
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: do against the Bucks, then you've got a fair shot

865
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,280
Speaker 1: at this being basically a home game for the Eagles,

866
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: given sort of where Philly is in Jersey and everything

867
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: like that, right could point could be a lot of

868
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: Phillies fast a lot of Philadelphia. It goes, yeah, all right, Jon.

869
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 2: Cokes and pile them in the car and we're gonna

870
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 2: go watch the Jalen Hurts and the Eagles gonna good

871
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 2: Metalands gonna give you if.

872
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: You don't know Joe, if he has a chance to

873
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 1: do an accent wherever it is a phillya accent especially,

874
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: but he'll he'll go into it. Joe, this is an

875
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: interesting one. This immediately to me, other than for you

876
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: Ad Fandle because it's Ford Fandal, it's four and a

877
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: half everywhere else. This immediately screams teased this up. Maybe not,

878
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: but this is the Bengals at home taking on the Steelers.

879
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: The Bengals are laying four and a half. The total

880
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: is forty five and a half. Now, the Bengals come

881
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 1: through here, beat up on the Raiders, look pretty good

882
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: doing it. Steelers have a spirited fight against the Chargers

883
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: despite the fact that they were down several very key

884
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: defensive guys who hopefully can come back here next week.

885
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: Mean if Fitzpatrick, maybe TJ. Watt. Roethlisberger looked much better

886
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: I think than I thought he would in this game.

887
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 1: Coming off the COVID list Divisional game. It's a raw

888
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 1: rab Mike Tomlin spot. This strikes me as a game.

889
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 1: I'm not sure about the four and a half just

890
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: kind of a dead number, although I lean the Steelers

891
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: a little bit because this is where I think the

892
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: Steelers kind of do their thing. But I like this

893
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: game as a teaser piece right off the bat that's

894
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: just my immediate reaction. What do you think about those games?

895
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 2: So you've got it's got Pittsburgh at four and a half.

896
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 1: Is that what you said, I've got Pittsburgh getting four

897
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: and a half for you at Fandle it's getting four.

898
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 2: Yeah. I would very much be on the Pittsburgh side

899
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 2: of this game. Yeah, at Pittsburgh getting points. I think

900
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 2: you have to Now a lot of this also has

901
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 2: to do with the health of t J.

902
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 1: Watt. It does, Yeah, you know that.

903
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 2: That's another piece. You know, we talked too much sometimes

904
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 2: about the offensive pieces that matter matter and TJ. Watt's health.

905
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,240
Speaker 2: With t J Watt is t J Watt and healthy,

906
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 2: this defense is a completely different defense.

907
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: They just like Mica Fitzpatrick is huge too, Joe, and

908
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: he was out for this game against the Charges as well.

909
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 1: If he can get back as well, both of them,

910
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: that's a completely different story, don't.

911
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 2: You think it is? And Mica hasn't been as impactful

912
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 2: in the games this year as he has in previous

913
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 2: years where he has big picks, those big moments. That

914
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 2: hasn't really happened yet this year. And you could see

915
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 2: when he's done on the field, like when those guys

916
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,959
Speaker 2: are on the field. You know the Showbrits of the World,

917
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 2: and you know, we've we've talked a lot about Devin

918
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 2: Bush too. Bogman I actually had a big brand about

919
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 2: Devin Bush's lackluster play and really not becoming the player

920
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 2: that people thought he was going to be a couple

921
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 2: of years ago, where he was the signal caller a

922
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 2: couple of years ago, and now he seems like a

923
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 2: guy who just is never in the right place at

924
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 2: the right time. That's a problem. So you need the T. J.

925
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 2: Watson the world to be healthy in this game, and

926
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 2: that makes you feel more comfortable. I still feel like

927
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh is a better football team than the Bengals. I

928
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 2: think the Bengals are gonna be up for this game.

929
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be a fun game. I think

930
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,240
Speaker 2: it's gonna be close. I think it'll be really close.

931
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 2: And that's the point.

932
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 1: Give me the field game.

933
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 2: It feels like a field goal game in the last second,

934
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 2: where you know, we're looking at whoever has the ball

935
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 2: last kind of thing. So, yeah, you get four and

936
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 2: a half on the Pittsburgh side, and like you said,

937
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 2: if you want to tease it, go for it.

938
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 1: I'm teasing this game up like nobody's business, Right, what

939
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: do you want to tease it to ten and a half?

940
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: I'll give it six point tas find another one, I'll go.

941
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: If you you're gonna give me above ten in this game, like,

942
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: I will take that, and you can't do it because

943
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: you can only get to ten, but I will go

944
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: to ten and out. I'm gonna do it right after

945
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: Usually I live at it on this show, Joe. I

946
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: just don't know what the second piece is gonna be.

947
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 2: I think the Pittsburgh size the right side to be

948
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 2: on this game. I think it's because, especially now that

949
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 2: Cincinnati came off that buy and looked really good against Vegas. Right,

950
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 2: they come out with a big win, all the stuff,

951
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 2: and now, okay, big division matchup. Maybe they've reset themselves.

952
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 2: But how many times are we going to go through this? Right?

953
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 2: You can reset all you want. Are you as good

954
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 2: of a football team as the Pittsburgh Steelers and do

955
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 2: you do things as well? And I'm not quite there

956
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 2: yet with the Bengals. The Bengals are vastly improved. The

957
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 2: Bengals are incredibly dangerous, but investible against the Steelers at

958
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 2: this time of year. That would be a whole new

959
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 2: Bengals team. If we can start investing in the Bengals

960
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 2: as you know, home favorites against the Pittsburgh Steelers in November.

961
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 2: That's a Bengals team we haven't lived with. I don't

962
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 2: know ever, or it's like a Boomers siasin.

963
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, plain quarterbacks to buy in to that, Yeah, I'm out.

964
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: I'm out on that, man. I've been selling the Bengals

965
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: all year, to my chagrin, and again I was against.

966
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 2: I've been buying them. But this is where the rubber

967
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:46,919
Speaker 2: meets the road. Yeah, it's a little weird.

968
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, and an interesting one here, Joe. The

969
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: Panthers are visiting the Dolphins. The Panthers are laying one

970
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: on the road here in Miami. The total pretty low here,

971
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: forty two and a half. The Dolphins, obviously, I believe

972
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: they've won three in a row now, not like they

973
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: look crazy impressive here against the Jets, but they do

974
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: get the job done. The Panthers, you know, again, lose

975
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: to do I want to say, a resurgent Washington team.

976
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 2: I don't know, but it's the same what I talk

977
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 2: about on the pod of Wednesday. Yeah, Ron Rivera knows

978
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 2: that all the weaknesses and there's many of them. Of

979
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 2: Cam Newton and I think, and I talk about on

980
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 2: the DFS show, is like Washington's and investable defense. Every

981
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 2: week they're gonna get just six points no matter how

982
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 2: you slice it, and they're the lowest ranked defense. Well,

983
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 2: then that's a really happy place where everything meets, right.

984
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 2: I think right now, looking at Carolina, they're an absolute

985
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,439
Speaker 2: better team without a doubt than.

986
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: The Miami Dolphins in my opinion, right now, I.

987
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 2: Think the Panthers are easy. I'm surprised this number isn't

988
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 2: you know, three on the Panthers side, So I would

989
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 2: jump on the one.

990
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I don't know if I'm not surprised

991
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: that the number is where it is, But I do

992
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: like the Panthers here. You know, look the Panthers they

993
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: just seem like they're you know, they've had some terrible

994
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: quarterback play all year. They seem like they're just like

995
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: something slightly off every single game, like they're missing a beat, right,

996
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: And I think that that.

997
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 2: They're not a great They don't execute because they've been

998
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 2: in fluxed so much, right, you know that And that's

999
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 2: a hard thing. And then you turn it over to

1000
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 2: a new quarterback. That the huge offensive transition too. Right,

1001
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 2: But here's the thing. Who do the Miami Dolphins have

1002
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 2: that isn't even close to Christian McCaffrey. You have Christian

1003
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 2: Staffrey touched the ball twenty five thirty times in this game.

1004
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 2: You're winning this football game, and it's not gonna be.

1005
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: Close, am I YEA yeah, I do think that the

1006
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: Panthers are going to win it, So I don't mind

1007
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: it at all betting it early, certainly for that. But

1008
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: it's not gonna move one way or another. I think

1009
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 1: this is basically around where it's gonna be. It's gonna

1010
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: be a nerfield, go either right. Chargers visiting the Broncos.

1011
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: The Chargers are road favorites here, laying one and a

1012
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: half in Denver total of forty nine. Obviously, you have

1013
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 1: the Chargers coming off the very large Sunday night win

1014
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 1: and the huge performance here by Austin Eckler. You've got

1015
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: the Broncos coming off a bye looking a little in

1016
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: disarray a little bit. What do you think here in

1017
00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 1: this divisional game?

1018
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 2: You know the Broncos are you know this is one

1019
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 2: of those Enigma teams to me always yes, I never

1020
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 2: know what, so therefore I like to stay away. What's

1021
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 2: what's the number again?

1022
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: You said for this one one and a half?

1023
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that delgiam You've got it too.

1024
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: Of course, Fanda likes to be just a tiny bit

1025
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: different that the Chargers are laying too, but it's legit

1026
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 1: one and a half at every other thought.

1027
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I mean right now, I think

1028
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 2: I just stay away from this game because, as you mentioned,

1029
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 2: these individual games are always difficult from the get go,

1030
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 2: and then on top of that, I just have zero faith.

1031
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 2: And although you know, it's great to see the Chargers

1032
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 2: put up points and Thatch look really good, I always

1033
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 2: feel like that it all comes crashing down the next week,

1034
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 2: like that's the thing that's not a team that's confident

1035
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 2: week to week, and that drives me crazy. And I

1036
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 2: think there's a lot of people that will jump all

1037
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 2: over the Chargers in this game, and that makes me

1038
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 2: like the Broncos more. But I don't feel good enough

1039
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 2: for the Broncos to do that. So I'm out on

1040
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 2: this one personally.

1041
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 1: No, definitely, not if I can avoid a game in

1042
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: Denver where I don't feel confident, and then I'm going

1043
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: to do it as well. Four one, Yeah, I agree.

1044
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: I don't hate the under. Now it's forty eight for

1045
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: you again because you're fandle, it's forty nine for everybody

1046
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: else in the country. I don't hate the under because

1047
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: it strikes me as a little bit of something where

1048
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: you know, it's a big offensive explosion here. You know,

1049
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: you've got the Broncos kind of getting a week to

1050
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: sort of reset themselves, get a little healthier, you know, offensively,

1051
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: they play slow. They don't want to sort of, you know,

1052
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 1: go crazy in terms of like taking these deep shots.

1053
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 1: So I could see this game leaning towards the under

1054
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: a little bit, but not something I'm running out to bed.

1055
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: This next one is a game that I'm very excited

1056
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: to see. Rams are coming off of bye bad loss.

1057
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: Here they are visiting Green Bay, the Packers at home

1058
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: are laying one and a half points, and the total

1059
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,800
Speaker 1: is forty nine and a half. Joe, I mean, Rogers

1060
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: banged up, but he played brilliantly, you know, in the

1061
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: loss to the Vikings. But he's got something worse than

1062
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,439
Speaker 1: turf toe or whatever he describes it. The Rams, of course,

1063
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: lot lost. Robert Woods looked a little out of sync offensively.

1064
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: But now you have another week here with the week

1065
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: off for Odell Beckham Junior to get a little more

1066
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 1: accustomed to everything. What do you think here in this one?

1067
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 2: You know, this is gonna tell us who the Rams

1068
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 2: are this game?

1069
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 1: Yes now?

1070
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 2: And because if the Rams come out of a buy

1071
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 2: and go on the road and lose to the Packers,

1072
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 2: then I think the Rams are not the team that

1073
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 2: we thought they are. And I think that is something

1074
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 2: that I really, I truly believe at this point, and

1075
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 2: I have stuck up for the Rams, and I'm at

1076
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 2: that point now where it's like you need to either

1077
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 2: do your business or get off the pop because the

1078
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 2: Rams have really like they did they came out the

1079
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 2: first month of the season, I said, this is the

1080
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 2: best football team, the most complete football team. Even after

1081
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 2: they lost to the you know, to the box, I

1082
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 2: was like, this is this is a very complete football team, right,

1083
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 2: this is a team that you think can go out

1084
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 2: there and really be good. And then they struggled against

1085
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 2: the Lions. I was like, okay, well, you know there's

1086
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 2: a lot you know, tension that game. A lot of

1087
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 2: weird media stuff building up. Okay, give them a pass.

1088
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 2: I'm tired of giving the Rams a pass. They've had

1089
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 2: more time. The Rams, theoretically, on paper, should come out

1090
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 2: there and they should crush this Green Bay team. They

1091
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 2: really should. And I'm not surprised that the green Bait

1092
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 2: Packers lost to Minnesota. Minnesota beat them last year in

1093
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 2: Green Bay, and people forget that. And Minnesota it's a

1094
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 2: good team right now, and Minnesota's played. They've had a

1095
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 2: lead in every single game this year, and the only

1096
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 2: TAM in the NFL is that all lead in every

1097
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 2: single game this year, and it is not surprising that

1098
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 2: they beat the Packers this week. And I will say this,

1099
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 2: I'm going to give the Rams one more shot because

1100
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 2: I do believe they have more talent on both sides

1101
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 2: of the football than the Green Bay Packers do. So

1102
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 2: give me the Rams in this one. But I can

1103
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 2: tell you right now after this, man, if the Rams

1104
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 2: disappointment again, I am out. I'm done.

1105
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 1: You're putting them on notice. Yeah, I kind of like

1106
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 1: the Rams here, Joe, I do. I think they're gonna

1107
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: come out and have a big game off the buy

1108
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: and again with I don't know how good the Packers

1109
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 1: are Joe, Like, this is the thing. I think the

1110
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: Packers are eight and three. They could easily be six

1111
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: and five, like really easily.

1112
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 2: Right, let's get a planet too you And I'm gonna

1113
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 2: throw this out to what what do the Rams do?

1114
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: Really?

1115
00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 2: Well, Like, what's the one piece on defense that they

1116
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 2: have side Aaron Donald? Right, they have Jalen Ramsey. So

1117
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 2: if Jalen Ramsey can shut down DeVonta Adams then all

1118
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 2: of a sudden or even just just keep pace with

1119
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 2: the vantai Aams, which is hard enough. Right, if he's

1120
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 2: not gonna put up one hundred and fifty yard game,

1121
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 2: then what are you beating them with? Not being them

1122
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 2: with Aaron Jones, Right, you're not beating them.

1123
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: I mean I assume Jones probably isn't even gonna play

1124
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: in this.

1125
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 2: Right exactly, Aaron Jones, So he's not there. A J.

1126
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 2: Dillon's a nice player. But yeah, it's good, you know, mvs.

1127
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 2: Alan Lozard Robert Tunyan. That's a lot like you're gonna

1128
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 2: have Rogers vintage Aaron Rodgers in order to win this

1129
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,240
Speaker 2: game in theory. So that's why I've got to invest

1130
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 2: in the Rams. If I'm gonna invest in this game.

1131
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 2: I have to because there's such tunnel vision and such

1132
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 2: simplicity with that Packers offense. They don't spread the ball

1133
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 2: around well enough or with confidence that you can feel like, yeah,

1134
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 2: they can make the big plays in the big spot.

1135
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 2: Those guys. I mean, MVS had a big catch yesterday,

1136
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 2: but how many times have we've seen MVS drop that

1137
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 2: ball a lot too much? You can't do that, and

1138
00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 2: I think I gotta go with the Rams, even though

1139
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 2: it's on the I'm with you. The weather is also

1140
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 2: probably gonna be one of issues too, where I don't

1141
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 2: like those LA kind of teams going into cold weather situations.

1142
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 2: I know everybody like they They're just not tough enough sometimes.

1143
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,439
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna go with the Rams, and I'm gonna

1144
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 2: hold my breath and I'm gonna be watching like this,

1145
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 2: and if they lose, I'm telling you they're going right

1146
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 2: to time out, right to time out for a good

1147
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:18,879
Speaker 2: long time.

1148
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 1: I like the Rams too, I really do. I think

1149
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: they're gonna win this game. So I mean, if you're

1150
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 1: getting plus money, take them on the money line, you know,

1151
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,720
Speaker 1: because I do think that they are. Whatever the actually

1152
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 1: I don't you can look it up if you have

1153
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: a Joe, whatever, the money line odds here are there

1154
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: on the rams. But I do think they win this game.

1155
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: I think that, especially with the banged up Packers team

1156
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 1: they've got to buy coming out. They're still in control

1157
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: for that division even with this loss to the Vikings.

1158
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: But this was one and again I was on the

1159
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 1: Viking as well, where I felt like most sharpbetders felt

1160
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 1: like these were two evenly matched teams. And that's exactly

1161
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: what that game was, just an even game where the

1162
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 1: Vikings wound up with the ball at the end. So yeah,

1163
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,760
Speaker 1: speaking of the Vikings, they're now visiting the resurgent forty

1164
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: nine ers here. Forty nine ers in San Francisco, tough

1165
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: place to play. They're laying two and a half here

1166
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 1: with the total of forty eight and a half. Joe,

1167
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I hate betting on or against

1168
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: the Vikings, like because I just I don't. They look

1169
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,240
Speaker 1: like they could be the best team in football at times.

1170
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 1: At times when they play offensively. When Kirk Cousins on,

1171
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: you're like, holy cow.

1172
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 2: I said that yesterday to somebody. I was like, you

1173
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 2: watch Kirk Cousins and you go, what a great throw

1174
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 2: and then you can watch Kirk Cousins that you go,

1175
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 2: what was he thinking?

1176
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so.

1177
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 2: Frustrating, terrible. But are the forty nine ers that good

1178
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 2: or if they've just benefited from schedule lately, I don't know.

1179
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 1: I mean, they beat up on the Rams though, Joe, Like,

1180
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: I mean, the Rams.

1181
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 2: Have some issues. The Rams have had some issues, and

1182
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 2: the Rams I think didn't take the forty nineers of seriously.

1183
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 2: They should indivision game all that stuff. But like, I'm

1184
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,959
Speaker 2: not I'm not gonna sit here and wax poetic about

1185
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers crushing the Jaguars, Like, no, they're

1186
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 2: five hundred team right now. The forty Nineers are a

1187
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 2: five hundred football team and the Vikings are five hundred

1188
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 2: football team. But the Vikings are five hundred football team

1189
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 2: that should probably have seven wins.

1190
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: But that's also true. That's also true. That's a good point.

1191
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: That's a good point. I think that.

1192
00:49:58,920 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 2: But I do think.

1193
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: I do think, Joe, I mean, if you like, from

1194
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: what I can see, like in the industry, like the

1195
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: sharp side of that game for the forty nine Ers

1196
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:08,959
Speaker 1: was on the Jaguars getting six and a half points,

1197
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: And I was on the forty nine ers, and I

1198
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,760
Speaker 1: don't I didn't mind like the fact that I was like, Okay,

1199
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 1: it's not sharp, because I do think that you have

1200
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 1: a plausible path here with Kittle, healthy Joe, with Deebo

1201
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: playing extremely well with Brandon Aiyuk an exciting part of

1202
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,280
Speaker 1: this offense. I mean, I know we crap on Jimmy Garoppolo,

1203
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 1: but Jimmy Garoppolo, you know, nearly won the Super Bowl

1204
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. I don't think he's like

1205
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: a detriment and the defense is playing better. I don't know, man,

1206
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: this is a game, Joe where I just think I

1207
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: want to stay away because I don't have a good

1208
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: feel for you, like the Vikings on this game. The

1209
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: total of this game is forty eight and a half,

1210
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:45,479
Speaker 1: even at your book, Joe, even if.

1211
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,399
Speaker 2: Idle forty eight, I own the book.

1212
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 1: It's my buddy.

1213
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 2: Yeah and a half is the number I feel best

1214
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 2: about this game.

1215
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: Over under, over, over, Okay, you score game.

1216
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I think you get the over in this game.

1217
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 2: And I think the reason why the Vikings have looked

1218
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 2: so good in these last few weeks is because they

1219
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 2: have committed to Dalvin Cook when you commit to Dalvin

1220
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,439
Speaker 2: Cook running the football and Dalvin Cook is healthy, that's tough.

1221
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 2: And the two and a half on the Vikings side, again,

1222
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 2: I'm still leaning on the on the Vikings. Of the

1223
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 2: two and a half, I like the over on the

1224
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 2: number as well, because I do think everything you said

1225
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 2: is correct. The forty nine Ers can put points on

1226
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 2: the board. They absolutely can, and they have, you know,

1227
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 2: the playmakers, and then kidle Back healthy and Deebo's bear

1228
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 2: and nyuks there and all that stuff. I think at

1229
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 2: the end of the day, the Vikings ability to run

1230
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 2: the football is a difference in this game. And I

1231
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 2: have great faith in Dalvin Cook and right now the

1232
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 2: face of the forty nine ers little banged up in

1233
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 2: that regard. So it's look, forty nine Ers are annoying

1234
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 2: to bet this year. They just are because they there's

1235
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 2: moments where you think it's gonna be tight and it's not,

1236
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 2: or you think they're gonna get their doors blowing off

1237
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 2: by the Rams and end up winning outright. But the

1238
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 2: Vikings right now, I've watched enough of the Vikings to

1239
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 2: know that the Vikings should have been better all along,

1240
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 2: and I think this is the Vikings team and Jefferson's

1241
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 2: a phenomenal talent, and they look like a team that

1242
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 2: is really together and really playing and after winning against

1243
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 2: Green Bay, it's not a letdown, it's a confidence builder.

1244
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 2: I think this is a game where they look at it,

1245
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 2: we belong, there's a path for us to win this division.

1246
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 2: I think they smell blood in this division. I think

1247
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 2: they think they're a better team than the Packers, and

1248
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 2: they might be so. I like the Vikings in this game.

1249
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, all those signs point to the Vikings coming out,

1250
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,919
Speaker 1: putting up a good effort and then losing by twenty

1251
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: eight points is the way I see what. I'm not betting.

1252
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 2: Look, you would not be wrong for throwing that out there.

1253
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: I'm just saying the Vikings every time, man, every time

1254
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: you think they're about to go in the role, they

1255
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 1: sort of react differently. So we'll see. But it's a

1256
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 1: stay away from me, regardless of what the number is.

1257
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: Browns are visiting the Ravens on Sunday Night Football. The

1258
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: Ravens right now are laying four and a half. The

1259
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: totals forty six and a half. This is a game

1260
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 1: I have no interest in betting either, but I assume

1261
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: that this line factors in the fact that Lamar Jackson

1262
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,399
Speaker 1: should be hopefully healthy. I mean, he was apparently sick

1263
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,919
Speaker 1: as a dog here. Not COVID related, but very sick.

1264
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: If you listen to the reports they eked out that game.

1265
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: The Browns win in their game against the Lions, but

1266
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:03,240
Speaker 1: it ain't pretty, and Baker Mayfield looks terrible, and Jarvis

1267
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: Slandry is a little banged up. So it's like Nick Chubb,

1268
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: your favorite player in the NFL, or bust for them.

1269
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: Four and a half Joe just kind of a dead number.

1270
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 1: There's a three and a half out there. I don't

1271
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 1: think books really know what to do with this. At

1272
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: this point in forty six and a half, we're in

1273
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:15,359
Speaker 1: Baltimore again.

1274
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 2: What do you think here, Ravens getting four and a

1275
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 2: half against the Browns? No laying four and a half,

1276
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 2: laying for laying four and a half half? Sorry, yes,

1277
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:28,879
Speaker 2: at home, I still think I that's it's right there,

1278
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 2: I guess right there. Like to me, I would have

1279
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 2: put this game at you know, at four probably.

1280
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1281
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 2: The half is the thing that makes it. It's like

1282
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 2: the three and a half of four, you're pushing the envelope.

1283
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 2: Even if they give Jubb the ball at there's a

1284
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 2: lot of other problems here right now. I think, right now,

1285
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:48,280
Speaker 2: if Lamar's let's paint a picture here, Lamar Jackson's healthy,

1286
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 2: what would you make this number? To me?

1287
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: Joe, Look, it's a divisional game, so it's a change.

1288
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 2: Would it be higher? Would you put it?

1289
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 1: I have? I think if we got to report that

1290
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: Lamar was like totally healthy, returns to practice, Joe right

1291
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: on Wednesday, good to go. I'm over my really bad cold.

1292
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: Strikes me as a five five and a half line

1293
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 1: like the Browns right now, given the fact that Mayfield

1294
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 1: is dealing with the like he's clearly banged up. We

1295
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: know the shoulder, he's got the knee. He's not looking good.

1296
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 1: I mean Donovan People's Jones, who everybody was like very

1297
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 1: excited about he was out. You know, Kareem Hunt's still

1298
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: not going to be back for this game. So it

1299
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 1: really is Chubb Landry Again, he was banged up in

1300
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 1: that game yesterday. He ran for the touchdown or whatever,

1301
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 1: but he was out of the game for a while

1302
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: with the knee. Then back. He's been battling injury offensively.

1303
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 1: They just don't look good. I think you've got the

1304
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: Ravens who are in a fight for I mean every

1305
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 1: team is in this division right now, they're all like

1306
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: right there. They need to keep winning. I think they

1307
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 1: would win handily, assuming, by the way, that Hollywood Brown

1308
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: as well, who also missed this last game, comes back.

1309
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 1: You've got the running backs, You've got a healthy Lamar,

1310
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: You've got Hollywood, You've got Rashad Bateman, You've got Mark Andrews.

1311
00:54:57,800 --> 00:54:59,399
Speaker 1: Strikes me as more of like a five to five

1312
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,399
Speaker 1: and a half line if all reports are glowing here

1313
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: with the Ravens, I.

1314
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 2: Think you could even go to six if Lamar was

1315
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 2: deemed healthy for this game. Okay, therefore, I think, you know,

1316
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 2: as I'm listening to you talk, I think that you

1317
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 2: jump on the Ravens in the four or the four

1318
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 2: and a half now wherever you're getting it, like if

1319
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 2: you but.

1320
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: There's a chance that Lamar is not back. I mean,

1321
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: we don't know what.

1322
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,720
Speaker 2: He's dealing with the three and a half from the Ravens,

1323
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 2: right yeah, the fox bed is three and a half.

1324
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 2: Fox bed is the most appealing one. I see that

1325
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:22,800
Speaker 2: right now. The fox bed three and a half is

1326
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,760
Speaker 2: where I would jump to right now because you assume

1327
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 2: in division game, and I think that's probably also why

1328
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,320
Speaker 2: that they they didn't push the limit too much with

1329
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 2: him this Sunday, Yeah, which is can we win this

1330
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 2: game at home against the Bears? I think we can

1331
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 2: and they did so.

1332
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: So, I mean the reports Joe were from whatever his

1333
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: teammate were where he was curled up like a ball

1334
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:44,760
Speaker 1: and didn't even know they landed.

1335
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 2: So it doesn't really what it got. There is a

1336
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 2: weird stomach for whatever the heck you've got, But you

1337
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 2: know what, like I got that, whatever it is, it

1338
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 2: should be good by next Sunday's. Yeah, So three and

1339
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 2: a half right now, you jump on that number, and

1340
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 2: anywhere else you can at the four points better. So

1341
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 2: I think you jump on this number because I could

1342
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 2: see healthy Lamar with the Ravens here at home. I mean,

1343
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 2: Baltimore is a tough place to play typically it is.

1344
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna go with the Ravens side of

1345
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 2: this one.

1346
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1347
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 2: The longer you wait, I think, the worst it gets.

1348
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: It's a little bit more of a fade of the

1349
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: Browns for me, even though it is a bye of

1350
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,399
Speaker 1: the like the Browns just right now, can't.

1351
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 2: But the Browns are such a mess. You just like,

1352
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 2: throughout all these things about the Browns being such a

1353
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 2: mess and not being able to do anything right, it

1354
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 2: feels like, I mean, they should have gone into Detroit, Dan,

1355
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 2: they should have just obliterated that team.

1356
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 1: Of course, that's where's it's. It's a fade of the Browns,

1357
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Like, not fading the game, You're

1358
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 1: just fading the Browns. Correct, fading the Browns.

1359
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

1360
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: Like the game, No, no, no, I like the game.

1361
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 1: The weird things happen in divisional games, so you never know.

1362
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 1: And the Browns have a, you know, a tendency to

1363
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: look like they're like the worst team in football and

1364
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 1: then bounce back and look good and then look terrible.

1365
00:56:57,920 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: But there's now a couple of games in a row

1366
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,919
Speaker 1: here where you been like, oh god, this this looks

1367
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: really broken right now with what we've got from the Browns,

1368
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 1: at least offensively. So I am willing to go with

1369
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 1: the Ravens of four and a half right now, and

1370
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:10,879
Speaker 1: certainly I do think it's gonna move up. But really,

1371
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 1: if Lamar is healthy, especially if Hollywood Brown is healthy

1372
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: as well, you get all that, I'm probably willing to go.

1373
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: You know, if it moves to five and a half,

1374
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 1: I'm still okay with that last game, Joe. I don't

1375
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 1: want any part of this one. I don't know about you.

1376
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: We have the Seahawks visiting the Washington football team. The Seahawks,

1377
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: despite a worst record, are road favorites. It's all over

1378
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 1: the place, Joe. It's one at FanDuel two is our

1379
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: consensus lined. It's two and a half for me. So

1380
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: this is something where bookmakers are like, we don't know,

1381
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: we don't know that two and a half. It's this

1382
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: is forty six and a half total.

1383
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 2: By the way, you know, I can't even invest in

1384
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 2: that now. I have no idea that way. I have

1385
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 2: no idea. This is run the other direction. It's a

1386
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 2: Monday primetime game, so people are gonna want it because

1387
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 2: I'm gonna want to watch it. I don't want to

1388
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 2: do something here. Yeah, I have nothing here. I got nothing.

1389
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 2: I have no idea at this point what the Seahawks are.

1390
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 2: They're three and seven the Washington football team. I'm not

1391
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 2: surprised that they won last week, but it would certainly

1392
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 2: not surprise me if Russell Wilson continue to get healthier

1393
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 2: and feel better, Like I'm not how he's playing right now.

1394
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 2: I know this. So like Russell Wilson heals himself magically

1395
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 2: in his cryogetic chamber and it's this amazing stuff. Yeah,

1396
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 2: he's playing with a broken finger and he's playing through

1397
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 2: it and it's not hard. It's not hard to see that.

1398
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 2: And it's not easy to throw a football when you're

1399
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 2: not your hand is not one hundred percent. And I

1400
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 2: don't know, man, I just had a bad feeling about

1401
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 2: this game. I don't want nothing to do with it. Man,

1402
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 2: I'm with you.

1403
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 1: I have back the Seahawks the last two games, and

1404
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: I'm done doing it just because I no idea.

1405
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 2: You're not wrong for back of the Seahawks against No No,

1406
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 2: but that was that was a pathetic.

1407
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 1: It's very clear though that Wilson, whether it's a combination

1408
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: of Ruster or just the finger, like when Wilson's playing

1409
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: the way he is, that Seahawks' offense is broken and

1410
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: the defense is okay. But I'm just not investing in

1411
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 1: it one way or another. And maybe Wilson I'm.

1412
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 2: Both gone next year what do you think who Wilson

1413
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 2: and Carol? I think everybody's jumping ship.

1414
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I don't know. Come to the Jets,

1415
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 1: how about that? Hey?

1416
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 2: You know what, that would not surprise me whatsoever if

1417
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 2: everybody came in there or you know, there's even been

1418
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,479
Speaker 2: some people who I just read a thing yesterday people

1419
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 2: were unhappy with how things are going with Trevor Lawrence.

1420
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, they're unhappy with it. I think Trevor Lawrence

1421
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 2: is unhappy with how things are going with Trevor Lawrence.

1422
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 2: They want to start running RPO is. When I read

1423
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 2: this morning about that they want to and I was

1424
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 2: like like stop, like stop with this.

1425
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: It's the NFL is the greatest soap opera.

1426
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's not right. And if this team falls

1427
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 2: apart down the stretch, which is not, they lose to Washington.

1428
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 2: Now that's three and eight. Damn, that's ugly.

1429
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 1: Well. This last game against sarazone was really the stand

1430
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 1: because their schedule does light up here significantly. At three

1431
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: and seven, their playoff helps are all gone. If they

1432
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: lose this weekend, forget it, like just done, Like for sure, Joe,

1433
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: this was fantastic, Thank you for joining. I know it's

1434
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 1: a short week. We got a lot to cram in

1435
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 1: here on both the betting pro side and the fantasy

1436
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: proth side, so I appreciate you taking time out of

1437
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 1: you know, your busy schedule. And what do you say

1438
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 1: we go to another podcast in about a half hour?

1439
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 1: You off for that?

1440
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll see you get in a half hour and

1441
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 2: just do it all again. I mean, I mean, this

1442
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 2: is the way I like to spend my days, just

1443
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 2: sipping tea and hanging out with my friend Dan Harrison

1444
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 2: a cold November brisk morning. This is what better than this?

1445
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 2: I get paid for this? What a wonderful charmed life

1446
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 2: I live.

1447
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 1: If you're still getting paid for this, I gotta go

1448
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: talk to our bosses here. But I will say this,

1449
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 1: we're doing this a little differently. For look, we usually

1450
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 1: do the look Ahead the Best Bet Show on Thursday. Thursday.

1451
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys know this, it's Thanksgiving actually,

1452
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 1: so it's a little difficult to do it. So here's

1453
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 1: what we're going to be doing on Wednesday. Okay, Pat

1454
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 1: Fitzmorris and I are going to be doing our bet

1455
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 1: the Best Bet show, but we're also going to be

1456
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 1: incorporating props for the Thursday Thanksgiving Games, So that's what

1457
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 1: we're going to give a couple of props. Pat writes

1458
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 1: a props article, I do a props video, So we're

1459
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 1: gonna be doing some props in there and we're gonna

1460
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 1: live stream it on the Betting pro YouTube channel, so

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Speaker 1: be on the lookout for that from our Twitter feeds,

1462
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Speaker 1: from the Betting Pros twitter feed and everything like that.

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1465
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Speaker 1: Hope you enjoyed it, and I'll talk to again a

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Speaker 1: couple of this