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Speaker 2: John Annik and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 3: I love him.

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Speaker 2: You are your hosts, John Anick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 2: Five hundred and twenty eight of these things.

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Speaker 4: Good to have everybody with us live on a Monday,

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Speaker 4: December sixteenth. The year is twenty twenty four. It is,

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Speaker 4: in fact, episode five hundred and twenty eight of the

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Speaker 2: And for a guy like me, Ken Flo and it's

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Speaker 2: great to see you.

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Speaker 4: guys like me who love Bill Belichick to such an extent,

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Speaker 4: I'd rather have dinner with him than you. So I'm

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Speaker 4: And now I don't have to buy Bill Belichick Foundation

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Speaker 2: Let's go John. I love it, dude, I love it.

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Speaker 5: I remember when I saw the news that there are

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Speaker 5: got a little excited. And the fact that he's over there,

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Speaker 5: man is going to be awesome for the program. And

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Speaker 5: Bill's the man, dude. I mean, you talk about work ethic.

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Speaker 5: A dude who literally lives, eats, and breathes for ball.

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Speaker 5: That's the kind of guy you want to hire, right,

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Speaker 5: Pretty cool.

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Speaker 4: Well, if you like Kenflow's T shirt better than mine,

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Speaker 4: Thank you everybody joining us a lot to get into

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Speaker 4: an outstanding UFC fight night, to recap and some other

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Speaker 4: things that we want to get to as well some

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Speaker 4: details on our awards show, which is coming up on

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Speaker 4: December thirtieth. Oftentimes we do that in January. We're gonna

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Speaker 4: do it this year with some tweaks. It'll be a

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Speaker 4: little bit condensed, a little bit more concise and trying

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Speaker 4: to think about awards to send to these fighters.

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Speaker 2: Maybe just a T shirt with Kenflow's face on it

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Speaker 2: says Kenflow's.

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Speaker 4: Fighter of the Year. But a lot to get into.

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Speaker 4: I thought the fight night was fantastic. Ray Long goes

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Speaker 4: coming up here. Bottom of the hour. We'll see the

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Speaker 4: condition in which Ray joins us here at about eleven

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Speaker 4: thirty am Eastern, and then on the backside, we got

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Speaker 4: some fun stuff for can Flow.

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Speaker 2: Three fighters.

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Speaker 4: She's got to fight with one party with one commentate

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Speaker 4: with one. Also some would you rather questions from can

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Speaker 4: Flow for for can Flow courtesy of Men's Health and uh,

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Speaker 4: I might even get to time permitting. I say a country,

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Speaker 4: and you have to say the first fighter that comes

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Speaker 2: All Right, we begin with.

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Speaker 4: little bit surprised with you and Brian Petrie pick and

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Speaker 4: Colby Covington as underdog last weekend.

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Speaker 2: I guess that's neither here nor there. But it is

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Speaker 2: Joaquin Buckley, new.

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Speaker 4: Mansa, not new Mansa, new Mansa, Joaquin Buckley. The TKO

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Speaker 4: comes via the doctor stoppage. Can flow at the four

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Speaker 4: forty two mark of the round three. Uh, there's a

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Speaker 4: new welterweight contender. If you didn't fancy him as such

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Speaker 4: going into the weekend, it is new Mansa Joaquein Buckley.

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Speaker 5: Your thoughts, Yeah, you know, listen, I think a lot

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Speaker 5: of it has to do with the value, right. I

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Speaker 5: think that the value of Colby Covington I think was interesting.

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Speaker 5: Who did I think was probably gonna what probably new Mansa.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, his uh, his momentum heading into this.

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Speaker 5: Obviously a fresher fighter, certainly, and a guy who is

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Speaker 2: And I think we certainly saw that.

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Speaker 5: While we did see some good moments for Colby Covington

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Speaker 5: when he was able to get on top of Buckley,

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Speaker 5: really this was Buckley's pretty much start to finish. I

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Speaker 5: that it did end because of doctor stoppage, but you know,

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Speaker 5: it was funny because even Buckley will looked very disappointed

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Speaker 5: right after the fight.

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Speaker 2: He wanted to keep on going.

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Speaker 5: He wanted his own hands to deliver the wind for him,

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Speaker 5: and you know, unfortunately had a stoppage there. Kobe had

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Speaker 5: some moments there, but again I definitely saw a lack

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Speaker 5: eye or not. It seemed like he had some vision problems,

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Speaker 5: is what he was stating. But even before that, you

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Speaker 5: know he's taken some shots from a little too far

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Speaker 4: So I have a number of different things in my

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Speaker 4: So I'll be quick and sort of. You can give

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Speaker 4: kolbe Covington's toughness, his desire to be in there. Right,

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Speaker 4: even though he has had bouts of inactivity throughout his career,

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Speaker 4: least once. And even though this fight wasn't preceded by

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Speaker 4: there is no denying his desire to be in there,

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Speaker 4: What do you have for us on Covington in defeat

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Speaker 5: Well, I figured he was going to encounter some of

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Speaker 5: of those spots. We have seen Colby Covington hurt many

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Speaker 5: and that was the case here again. He is as

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Speaker 5: no question about if this is a dude who is

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Speaker 5: seeing that he was heard a few times during this fight,

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Speaker 5: But you know, we've seen many guys who will retreat,

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Speaker 5: for Colby. He kept moving forward, kept looking for a

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Speaker 4: I promise you will spend more time on Joaquin Buckley

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Speaker 4: than Colby Covington. But in terms of Covington, I think

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Speaker 4: and how that compromised him. But Colby Covington seemingly is

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Speaker 4: and if it's a matchup that he thinks is favorable

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Speaker 4: to whatever degree. Now, maybe he doesn't want to sort

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Speaker 4: a lost to Ian Maschado Gary, but a loss to

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Speaker 4: Joaquin Buckley is somehow easier to die, yest, right, But

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Speaker 4: you go out there and you compete and you think

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Speaker 4: you're going to win the fight. Otherwise you don't take

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Speaker 4: the fight. I'm a little bit surprised to see Covington

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Speaker 4: sort of lean into that on the back side, right,

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Speaker 4: he hadn't competed all year. What are you doing?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 4: I know there was maybe a deflection from MMA masters.

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Speaker 4: I don't know exactly who he is training with. I

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Speaker 4: didn't know who was cornering him on this night, but

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Speaker 4: I don't know, Kenny. It would seem to me like,

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Speaker 4: if you're going to take on somebody like Joaquin Buckley,

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Speaker 4: you can't on the backside say, hey, man, I wish

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Speaker 4: I had had a training camp on the front end.

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Speaker 5: No, absolutely, and Buckley's a threat man, but Buckley is

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Speaker 5: not the same dude from a few years ago.

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Speaker 2: He has retained that danger level with his power.

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Speaker 5: And physicality, for sure, But again, this is a guy

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Speaker 5: for Kolby to go in there and maybe have a

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Speaker 5: half assed training camp never a smart thing, because this

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Speaker 5: was still an excellent opportunity for him. As much as

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Speaker 5: maybe people complain about seeing Colby in a lot of

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Speaker 5: these opportunities, He's still a guy that people either want

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Speaker 5: to see fight because they want to see him lose

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Speaker 5: or they want to see him win. But either way,

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Speaker 5: he had an opportunity here in a win over Buckley,

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Speaker 5: to get back into that title picture. And there is

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Speaker 5: no UFC fighter in the welthrouite division really that you

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Speaker 5: can take lightly. And unfortunately for Colby, he probably paid

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Speaker 5: for that decision. So you have to take every single

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Speaker 4: One of the best fighters of this year twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 4: I think he went four and oh if I'm not mistaken,

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Speaker 4: But this word hunger, it comes up periodically in our

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Speaker 4: fighter meetings, most recently with Vicente Luk before he fought

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Speaker 4: Temba Garimbo, and you saw how devastated Temba Garimbo was

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Speaker 4: to lose that fight to Vicente Luk, because it feels

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Speaker 4: like a couple of years worth of work sort of

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Speaker 4: goes by the wayside. And Luke talked about hunger and

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Speaker 4: he likes to fight the guy who is hungry so

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Speaker 4: he can prove to the world that his hung for

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Speaker 4: MMA Golden Glory and UFC Golden Glory is still insatiable.

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Speaker 4: And Joaquing Buckley is training twenty eight what is it

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Speaker 4: beast in twenty five eight, He's training twenty four seven

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Speaker 4: three sixty five to fight either the long and lanky

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Speaker 4: striker Ian Mashad o'gary or the wrestler Kolbe Covington. Right,

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Speaker 4: so the commitment right now for joaquingm Buckley is on question.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: We talked about Aaron Blansfield recently and rosenami unis when

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Speaker 4: the going got tough late, Right, Aaron Blanchfield doesn't care

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Speaker 4: And it would seem like even though financial freedom is

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Speaker 4: inexorably linked to that Joaquing Buckley Kenny, all he cares

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent.

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Speaker 5: And I think you know I talk about this all

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Speaker 2: They don't want it, they don't want to be there.

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Speaker 2: You have to love the process of fighting.

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Speaker 5: You have to love the pro of wanting to be

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Speaker 4: So I am wrong a lot right, certainly when it

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Speaker 2: I have looked at this plus athlete.

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Speaker 4: I have looked at this guy as I think the

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Speaker 4: Colby Covington in whatever fucking form. What do you think

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Speaker 4: is the ceiling for Jaquin Buckley? And how do you

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Speaker 5: I think that Buckley would struggle off of his back

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Speaker 2: But as of right now, I would definitely have Ballall.

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Speaker 5: As the favorite, just based on his experience and the

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Speaker 4: So forget Balal for a second, just overall in terms

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Speaker 2: Are these winnable fights for Jaquin Buckley?

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Speaker 4: I mean, the theoretical is that he's going to get

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Speaker 5: I think that he matches up really well against someone

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Speaker 5: this this is a guy who if he lands on you,

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Speaker 2: There's no question about that.

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Speaker 5: His physicality is power, speed, and now I think his

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Speaker 4: I mean, you think Kamara Husman wants that fight with

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Speaker 4: Monov's number two in the world. Leon Edwards is number one.

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Speaker 4: I've said repeatedly, if I had to send one fighter

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Speaker 4: wayward missteps here there. The Conor McGregor call out comes

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Speaker 4: He's done a lot of things the right way. He

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Speaker 2: I feel pretty good for Nu Mansa.

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Speaker 5: You know, he looks like a different fighter, and I

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Speaker 2: All right, let's get to the Cole main event.

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Speaker 4: If we could Cub Swanson and Billy Corntello in the

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Speaker 4: Can Flow?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 5: I was excited for this fight just because both of

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Speaker 2: You know, it may not have a whole lot of

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Speaker 5: Both these guys love to pursue the finish Cub Swanson

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Speaker 5: But he was landing some huge shots on Billy Q.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: Amazing knockout, one of the best of the year for sure.

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Speaker 4: Just amazing to see Cubs wants and getting it done

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's well, pudd, he's one of my favorite people

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Speaker 4: Right, it seemed like maybe there might be some uh

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Speaker 4: My memory is not great, right, but yeah, this would

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Speaker 4: But he's competitive, so I just and you know, it

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Speaker 5: really really fun.

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Speaker 4: All Right, we're gonna get to Minel Cop here, can

436
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Speaker 4: I feel or coda? You can feel free to back

437
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Speaker 4: me up with that, uh nugget on Chris lights out,

438
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Speaker 4: lightle dude Manel Cop and Bruno Silva, Man, I mean,

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Speaker 4: what else is on television, folks when that is going

440
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Speaker 4: on that could possibly be as captivating as that?

441
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Speaker 2: Am I sounding hyperbolic? Am I overstating it?

442
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Speaker 3: I know?

443
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Speaker 4: I got mad love for the flyweights and always have.

444
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Speaker 4: But bro, the speed the showboting, even from Manel I mean, yeah,

445
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Speaker 4: his conversation with Dana White went a little bit long.

446
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Speaker 4: But dude, Manel Cop man coming to a title fight

447
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Speaker 4: potentially near you soon? What do you make of these

448
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Speaker 4: feature about here involving the fly guys?

449
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Speaker 5: This was actually my favorite fight of the night, and

450
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Speaker 5: the reason for that is just the technique displayed by

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Speaker 5: both guys, really, but especially by Manell Cop, who had

452
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Speaker 5: his flashes of brilliance where he looks like he's like.

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Speaker 2: Top three strikers into UFC.

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Speaker 5: What he's putting together combinations, and his ability to recognize

455
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Speaker 5: what you're doing and to slip and rip like he

456
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Speaker 5: was out there against Silva was a thing of beauty. Okay,

457
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Speaker 5: because this is one hundred and twenty five pound division

458
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Speaker 5: where everybody is fast. There's not a whole lot of

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Speaker 5: slow guys in that division, and Silva was very fast,

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Speaker 5: but menel Cop just another gear or two faster.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just brilliant stuff from him.

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Speaker 5: It's so comfortable in the pocket of how he lures

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Speaker 5: you in and then makes you pay and with a

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Speaker 5: variety of strikes as well.

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Speaker 2: That's the thing.

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Speaker 5: It's not like he's just a good boxer, just a

467
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Speaker 5: good kicker. He can attack every part of your body

468
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Speaker 5: and do so with potency and ferocity.

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Speaker 2: I loved that fight.

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Speaker 4: Dude, takes two anything for us on Bruno Silva there

471
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Speaker 4: in defeat. What an absolute warrior in his own right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, very very tough man, and I think he had

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Speaker 5: some success with his kicking game. He started attacking the

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Speaker 5: body of menel Cop with his kicking game, and he

475
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Speaker 5: tried hard. This is another guy who really tried to

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Speaker 5: in there, but it was manal Cop with those body

477
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Speaker 5: shots that ultimately was going to get him to win.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean, he's extremely tough and he also

479
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Speaker 5: it's not like he didn't try to take the fight

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Speaker 5: to the ground, which would have served him best. He

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Speaker 5: did his best mal Cop was on point with his

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Speaker 5: ability to level, change, sprawl and keep those shots from Afar.

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Speaker 5: So uh, just brilliant stuff. Man manl Cop. When he's

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Speaker 5: on his game boy, he looks like a world champion.

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Speaker 5: So excited to see what his next opportunity is going

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Speaker 5: to be. I imagine it's probably going to be Kai

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Speaker 5: car Frant's next for Pantosia. But menal Cop I think

488
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Speaker 5: is a great option after.

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Speaker 4: That, back to starboy Cop in a second. But looking

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Speaker 4: up here, Chris Lightle on my phone, Kenny. It was

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Speaker 4: a guillotine of Dan Hardy in a main event August

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Speaker 4: of twenty eleven in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, so in the Midwest,

493
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Speaker 4: submission of the night and fight of the night, So

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Speaker 4: best possible finishing note for Chris Lytle.

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Speaker 2: We'll see what Cubs wantson chooses to do.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, so menel Cop and Kai Cotta France obviously

497
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Speaker 4: have a history, Kenny, they don't like each other. They

498
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Speaker 4: were scheduled to fight Kaiktta France suffered a concussion in training.

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Speaker 4: Pantosian needs time off. He also needs an opponent, so

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Speaker 4: you think it'll be Kai Cotta France? I mean yeah,

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Speaker 4: I guess you don't pluck off one of those two

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Speaker 4: by having kai Cotta, France and menel Cop fight. They're

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Speaker 4: both worthy right now. I mean you could actually do

504
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Speaker 4: worse than having one of those guys sit right and

505
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Speaker 4: just sort of pan plan the next year for Pantosia.

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Speaker 2: What are you doing at Flywait if you're a promoter? Okay,

507
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Speaker 2: So I'm stealing this from someone on Twitter.

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Speaker 5: I wish I could look up their name and find

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Speaker 5: out who it was, but they suggested Brandon Moreno and

510
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Speaker 5: menel Cop. I think that fight would be absolute fire

511
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Speaker 5: two guys that are at the top of their game

512
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Speaker 5: right now. To see Moreno and how he bounced back

513
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Speaker 5: after his last fight, I think that would be absolute fireworks.

514
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Speaker 5: Moreno and up fight the winner of kai Car France

515
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Speaker 5: and Pantosia. I think that makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 2: So in terms of.

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Speaker 4: Kai Cotta France versus manel Cop right, I feel like

518
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Speaker 4: straight meritocracy Kaiktta France had that close loss to Amir

519
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Speaker 4: al Bosi, had a big knockout his last time out.

520
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Speaker 4: He's the higher rank guy. I think straight meritocracy Kaiktta

521
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Speaker 4: France gets the championship opportunity, right, now, and not only

522
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Speaker 4: does he have history with Pantosia, but he also has

523
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Speaker 4: I think this region behind him that I think moves

524
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Speaker 4: some financial metrics. Right, I don't know how much money

525
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Speaker 4: like Manel cop makes the UFC versus Kai Katta France's champion,

526
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 4: or Jack Dela Mattelena versus Shavkott Rochmanov as champion, right,

527
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Speaker 4: I think it stands to reason that Jack Dela Madelena

528
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Speaker 4: makes a lot of money for them as a champion

529
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Speaker 4: because he has that entire region behind them.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: But if I have.

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Speaker 4: Menel Copps' a promoter, I am not having him face

533
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Speaker 4: Brandon Moreno. I am waiting and I am putting that

534
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Speaker 4: man in a championship fight because.

535
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Speaker 2: Well, you know, guys like me.

536
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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm just an MMA fan, Kenny, but I'm

537
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Speaker 4: just watching an astonishment at what I'm seeing this past

538
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Speaker 4: weekend right now.

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Speaker 5: Well, not only that, if Moreno was to win, then okay,

540
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 5: now you're back in the exact same spot you were before, right,

541
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Speaker 5: So yeah, I understand.

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Speaker 4: That for sure.

543
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I call Pantosia and I say, my men,

544
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Speaker 2: your dad's proud of you.

545
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 4: Now you can be sure when would you like to fight,

546
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Speaker 4: and you hope he says soon, and then you say

547
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Speaker 4: how about Kai? And then if Kai wins, you know

548
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Speaker 4: you have the tremendous backdrop already established for you with.

549
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Speaker 2: Kai, Kata France and Manel cop and there you go.

550
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Speaker 5: And if I'm Pantosia, I'm like, Jean Man, why the

551
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Speaker 5: fuck are you call him? You meant I'm going to

552
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Speaker 5: right now?

553
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Speaker 3: Right?

554
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Speaker 2: All right?

555
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 3: Right?

556
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Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, oh hey, Cannibal, before you have up, Hey,

557
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 4: you didn't shave your head because you're planning on going

558
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Speaker 4: to Turkey for that hair transplant, are you.

559
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 2: I'm gonna start booking guests on the show who have.

560
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Speaker 4: Had the hair transplant in Turkey, and I'm gonna ask

561
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Speaker 4: them what is their relative.

562
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Speaker 2: Level of satisfaction?

563
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Speaker 3: Right?

564
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 4: Like, do you think if you had nixick on here

565
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Speaker 4: he would say ten out of ten or he would

566
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Speaker 4: give you real answer like eight and a half?

567
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Speaker 5: Right, I don't know, but we should. We should compile

568
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Speaker 5: that information for a friend, not me, of course, but

569
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Speaker 5: like just like just a half.

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Speaker 4: All right, Hey, I'm gonna need Cody, you need a book.

571
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Speaker 4: Modestus bakowskis once his hair grows in and Jason House

572
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Speaker 4: and everybody else. Ray Longo knows better than to h

573
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Speaker 4: get his hair treated in Turkey. Let us get to

574
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Speaker 4: the start of the program and the Ray Longo Minute.

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Speaker 6: Is now time for the Ray Longo Minute.

576
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna put a hole in this cooking shops.

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Speaker 1: That's what I want with the.

578
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Speaker 5: Ray Longo Minute.

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Speaker 4: With John Annick and Henny Florian podcast.

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Speaker 2: I mean, not even trying to get attention.

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Speaker 4: You say to Chris Wiman, I want you to punch

582
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Speaker 4: a hole in his fucking chest. Maybe the greatest in

583
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Speaker 4: corner in fight utterance in UFC history.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you. But I like your idea about

585
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Speaker 3: getting all the head trick.

586
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Speaker 2: You like that, that's fucking erica.

587
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Speaker 4: I'm not funny.

588
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Speaker 3: Hey, you're not going like somebody's really telling them how

589
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Speaker 3: bad or good it looks. Oh yeah, it looks great.

590
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 3: And the fucking walk away and starts smirking. Let's let's

591
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Speaker 3: line them all up and then we zoom in on

592
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Speaker 3: the top of their heads. Yeah that's nice. What a

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Speaker 3: what a nice guy? This guy is Holy, this is amazing, amazing.

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Speaker 2: You and I are aligned. I mean, oh wait, is

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Speaker 2: are you drinking out of a mug with your own face?

596
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Speaker 2: On it there very long. Put it in front of

597
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Speaker 2: the car, not away from it. There you go the

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Speaker 2: camera bug it at oh, virtually identical.

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Speaker 3: Right around Christmas time, guys, you might want to drink

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Speaker 3: your beverage out of a nice.

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Speaker 4: Tasty mug like this, and you can go to John

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Speaker 4: Annick dot com right now promo code twenty twenty five

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Speaker 4: to get your own Ray Long minute mug.

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Speaker 2: Can we stay on the hair transplant thing for a second?

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Speaker 4: Guy?

606
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 3: Sure?

607
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 2: I mean, you know people are probably looking.

608
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Speaker 4: At all our hairlines right now as we have this conversation.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Ray, you know you look like you have

610
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Speaker 4: a full head of hair, but you know, maybe there's

611
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Speaker 4: some recession going on, right but you don't have wheels

612
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 4: up itinerary to Turkey right now. I shave my head.

613
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Speaker 4: I got real issues right I discuss men's hair. I

614
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Speaker 4: got a full head.

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Speaker 2: Big Ron's probably sitting somewhere in Vegas. Dude, you got

616
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Speaker 2: to stop, you know, as he looks at his itinerary

617
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Speaker 2: to Turkey right in front of it.

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Speaker 4: So, yes, how many guys, Ray and Kenny and Kenny,

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Speaker 4: we'll ask you this. Since Ray and I are aligned,

620
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Speaker 4: would we have on the program who would be like, dude,

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Speaker 4: this the greatest decision I ever made, or would they say, yeah, man,

622
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Speaker 4: I don't know, Like you know, my wife thinks I

623
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Speaker 4: look terrible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I don't know. It's I haven't seen, like

625
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Speaker 2: up close, what it looks like myself.

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Speaker 5: But you know, listen, if it makes you feel better

627
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Speaker 5: and it gives you a little more and you know,

628
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Speaker 5: it gets your wife in a bed a little more.

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Speaker 2: Often than not, Hey, why not?

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Speaker 3: You know that's that's the se That's that's all that

631
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Speaker 3: should matter.

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Speaker 4: Why not? So I'm thinking about getting a nose job, then.

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Speaker 2: What do you think about that? What do you think

634
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Speaker 2: about that?

635
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Speaker 3: I might need one because they keep snorting, So that

636
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Speaker 3: might be something I have to look into. Yeah, right,

637
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Speaker 3: that was really devacept. That ain't going good for me,

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a perfect ken flow. Didn't you have

640
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Speaker 4: that deviatedcepting PRECID?

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Speaker 3: I did.

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Speaker 2: I can now breathe much better. Actually, it's really fun.

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Speaker 4: I've heard it's really uh, non invasive right in and

644
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Speaker 4: out and no pain.

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Speaker 7: Right.

646
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Speaker 2: It's brutal, isn't it.

647
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Speaker 4: It sucks so right? But no, I mean a nose

648
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Speaker 4: job is an elective procedure, right, I mean, yeah, it's

649
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 4: probably more invasive and more painful than you know, but yeah,

650
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Speaker 4: that would give me more confidence, right, Like I started

651
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 4: to shave my head at fourteen for confidence. So you know,

652
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Speaker 4: maybe I'll get a fucking nose job, you know, instead

653
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Speaker 4: of a hair transplant.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm not even kidding. We got a lot

655
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 2: of things to get done.

656
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 3: No one to Kennedy. The insurance doesn't pay for elective surgeries.

657
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 3: You're looking about it. Yeah, maybe I'll just get a

658
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 3: nose job and then go to Turkey get some hair plugs.

659
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 2: I'm going to get some pecan plants, so get my lowid.

660
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, we have a lot to get into

661
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 4: from this UFC fight night and then anything else that

662
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 4: you have ray on the back end. I am going

663
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 4: to hit you with one hard hitting Chris Wyman question

664
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 4: on the way out, so that'll just give you time

665
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 4: to marinate on that.

666
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 3: So I'm sorry about that.

667
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 2: No, you're good.

668
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 4: Happy holidays, Joaquin Buckley, Man, what do you think about

669
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 4: Joaquin Buckley? What do you think his relative ceiling is

670
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 4: in this welterweight division? And to what extent were you

671
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 4: impressed with what he did against Colby Covington's over the weekend.

672
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 3: Uh. I like his ceiling. I like he's on a tear. Uh,

673
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 3: I'm not you know, Kobe got cut early in that fight.

674
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 3: I'm not sure we saw. I think that really impacted

675
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 3: the fight a lot. But I don't know. I think

676
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 3: Covington being out so long, I mean, he he looks

677
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 3: like he still got the dog in him. Uh. And

678
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 3: Buckley that was that was like a nice test for

679
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 3: Buckley against a next champion. So I think they're doing

680
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 3: the right thing with him. He got he did great

681
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 3: with wonder Boy, now he did great with Covington. So yeah,

682
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 3: he's putting himself in the right spot. Did I thought

683
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 3: there was a couple of times on the floor he

684
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 3: didn't look like he was that comfortable. I think that

685
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 3: might be a problem in the future, depending on who

686
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 3: he fights. But uh, he I think his ceiling is

687
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 3: whatever he wants his ceiling to be. He's he's right

688
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 3: where he wants to be.

689
00:32:58,880 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 2: Kenny.

690
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 4: We have Yeah, we just started interrupt Kenny. I know

691
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 4: that's my fault. We have the audio of Colby Covington

692
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 4: talking about the cut. I just want to, uh to

693
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 4: get that out there.

694
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 2: If we could.

695
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 4: Here's what Kolbe had to say about that cut on

696
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 4: his eyelid that obviously factored prominently in the equation Saturday Night.

697
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 3: The cut happened? What happened?

698
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, So you know, we came in, you know, in

699
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 6: close contact, and I feel like there was a headbutt,

700
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 6: and as soon as it cut in the first round,

701
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 6: like I couldn't see, I was had were vision.

702
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 2: I was seeing three different people.

703
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 3: I was like, fuck, which when do I lunched? I

704
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 3: didn't know what to do. I was kind of.

705
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 4: Confused, but you know, I knew I had to keep fighting.

706
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 6: You know, I had to give the UFC and the

707
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 6: fans a show, and that's where they pay their harder

708
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 6: money to come forward. I'm a warrior. We're glad he is,

709
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 6: so I'm not gonna I've had way worse in fights

710
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 6: and been a little cut over my eyes. So it's

711
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 6: unfortunate that the doctor stopped the fight like that. Because

712
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 6: we're in Vegas. I know, the fight gets to keep going,

713
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 6: and I feel like I was really just starting to

714
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 6: gain momentum, like I.

715
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:52,959
Speaker 3: Was starting to wear.

716
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 2: I could see his breathing out of his mouth.

717
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 3: He wasn't as as much.

718
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 6: Volume at that point, so I feel like it was

719
00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 6: gonna be my fight in the championship Brown.

720
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 2: So it was an unfortunate stopping, you know.

721
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 6: I just I feel like, you know, I feel like

722
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 6: the judges, not the judges, but that the doctor is

723
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 6: the one.

724
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 4: That had feel like I lost to another moment.

725
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 2: All right.

726
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 4: So there you have at ken flow and ray from

727
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 4: Colby Covington. I mean, somebody cut him. Yeah, maybe it

728
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 4: was the glove, but it was a walking buckley strike

729
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 4: that cut him over.

730
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'd mean, look, man, he's parakeeting. What Dana

731
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 3: said about vegas, I mean, we don't really know that

732
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 3: for sure. I'm not really sure what that cut. She said.

733
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 3: The doctor said she was afraid he was going to

734
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 3: lose his eyelid. I don't know if that's true, but

735
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,800
Speaker 3: I know the cut was bothering him. Whether I'm not

736
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 3: disagreeing or agreeing whether it should have been stopped or not,

737
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 3: that's not my expertise. But I think she everd on

738
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 3: the side of caution, unfortunately for him. But I think

739
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 3: he was on his way to picking up some steam

740
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 3: though that's the way it had looked. So it's one

741
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 3: of those fights where It's just unfortunate because there's a

742
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 3: lot I think that was left on the table with

743
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 3: that fight. I think that's what I was trying to say.

744
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 3: I mean, he still has the dog in him. You

745
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 3: can see he still wants to fight. Uh, you know,

746
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 3: and the other guys.

747
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I was gonna say and saying that you know,

748
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 5: you saw three buckleys out there isn't going to help

749
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 5: the argument necessarily. Oh yeah, even though I was seeing

750
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 5: three buckleys out there, they really should have, you know,

751
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 5: let me fight. But anyways, you know, that's unfortunate all

752
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 5: the way around. But Ray, so where do you put

753
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 5: Kobe Covington right now? As far as you know how

754
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 5: he's seeing his mixed martial arts career, Because you get

755
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 5: a guy who's as tough as hell.

756
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 2: He did not want to quit, that as clear, right. Yeah,

757
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 2: But then he says that he kind of had a

758
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 2: half assed training camp.

759
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,280
Speaker 5: So if you see a guy that is not quitting

760
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,959
Speaker 5: inside the cage, but he's only putting in half assed

761
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 5: training camps, is he on.

762
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 2: The way out? Ray, Like, well, how do you see that?

763
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 3: He's look, I would think that, uh man, I don't

764
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 3: even know. These guys get crazy as they get older,

765
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, and they like the half

766
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 3: training camps. That shit drives me crazy. But he looks

767
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 3: like he's gonna be up for a cash grab wherever

768
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 3: he could get it. He seems like that guy he

769
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 3: brings the whole stick with him that nobody cares about.

770
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 3: I don't know. Yeah, he's probably look he's getting up there.

771
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 3: He wants to you know. It's almost like you know

772
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 3: the guys with the pensions. They work, like the last

773
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 3: two or three years, they put in like five hundred

774
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 3: hours a week so they could build up that pension.

775
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 3: That's similar to the same thing these guys built their

776
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 3: name up. He wasn't interim champ, and I think he

777
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 3: wants to cash out anyway he can. That's the way

778
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 3: I look at it.

779
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 2: So you think he's fighting for a payday only these days, Well,

780
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what.

781
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 3: I think. He's fighting for a payday I don't know

782
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 3: about only because he did show he wasn't quit. I

783
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,399
Speaker 3: think a guy that was fighting for the paydays would

784
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 3: have found a way out with that eye as soon

785
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 3: as possible, right, and didn't do that. So I don't

786
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 3: want to say he's fighting for the paydays. I just say,

787
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 3: that's where I think is if he had a half

788
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 3: assed training camp, he feels he's tough enough to go

789
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 3: in and compete with these guys and pick up a paycheck,

790
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 3: which I'm sure was a good paycheck.

791
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 4: So well, I think part of what he's saying is

792
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 4: that he didn't have an eight week training camp because

793
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 4: this fight came together on show.

794
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 3: I got it, okay, So yeah, so then, but I think.

795
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 4: He's being selective and prize fighting at this stage of

796
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 4: his career, right, He's not, like joking Buckley, who is

797
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 4: ready to fight any of these killers on three or

798
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 4: four weeks notice?

799
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 3: Right? Yes, yeah, well, however you want to phrase that.

800
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 3: I think that was that was perfect. That's what I'm

801
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 3: trying to say. So he should be looking for the

802
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 3: money fights on at this point in his career. He's

803
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 3: doing I think he's doing the right thing. And and

804
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 3: like again, if he would have found a way out

805
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 3: in that fight, I would said, now he's fighting for

806
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 3: the money, But he really didn't, so I can't. It's

807
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 3: it's hard to make that argument. But why he would

808
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 3: jump in at a last minute thing like that, I

809
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 3: guess they you know, they probably offer him more money.

810
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 3: I mean, did you know he did headline the card,

811
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 3: so it was a big big to do and he

812
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 3: is from Florida, so.

813
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 4: Well, what's his show money as a former interim champion

814
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 4: who does move needles?

815
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 5: Right?

816
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 4: And I know Ray you said his stick that nobody

817
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 4: cares about, right, and that is true in some part,

818
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 4: I guess right. But Kenny, when we were sort of

819
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 4: talking privately and Balah Muhammad wasn't able to fight and

820
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 4: im the shadow Gary versus Shapcott Rockmanoff came together and

821
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 4: Covington was fighting Joaquin Buckley. Kenny, for you as an

822
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 4: MMA fan and me, it's like, holy shit, dude, Covington's

823
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,439
Speaker 4: fucking hadn't fought in the year. He's fucking fighting Woking

824
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 4: Buckley in Tampa. Right, It's feels like a big deal.

825
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 4: So he moved some sort of needle for me.

826
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 2: As an MMA fan, even if at one point in

827
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 2: time he came at my.

828
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 3: Kids, you know, oh shit, I forget about that.

829
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 4: But you know what I'm saying, right, Like, Kenny, like,

830
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 4: to what extent do you care about Covington Because it

831
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 4: seems like you, you and I care more about him

832
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 4: than most of these sort of run of the mill

833
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 4: Welter waits, for lack of a better way to put it.

834
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, I think either way, he's created this character

835
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 5: and people want to see him lose, right, And if

836
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 5: that's the case, then people still want to see a fight.

837
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 5: And I think for a lot of people that that

838
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 5: is the case, whether they want to see him win

839
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 5: or lose. But you know, obviously he's been been a

840
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,720
Speaker 5: heel in the UFC for a while. He has played

841
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 5: up that stick well, and you know, I think I

842
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 5: don't know how many more fights he has left in him.

843
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 5: But one good sign is the fact that this guy

844
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 5: is not going to quit inside that octagon. And I

845
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 5: think when you see that then you kind of know, okay,

846
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 5: it is absolutely finished for him.

847
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, So, Ray, it sounds to me like if I

848
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 4: asked you who is more likely to be a UFC champion,

849
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 4: Joaquin Buckley or Manel Cop, you would say Manel Cop.

850
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 4: And some of that would have to do with maybe

851
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 4: divisional depth, right, But when I ask you about Joaquin Buckley,

852
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 4: you don't sound super enthused. Necessarily, you were impressed, but

853
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 4: you don't sound particular enthused about him. As welterway contender.

854
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 4: You're right to point out maybe some of the grappling shortcomings.

855
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 4: I'm just saying we segue pretty quickly towards the cut.

856
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 4: So all right, right, you're over the moon about Joaquin Buckley.

857
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,439
Speaker 3: No, not over the moon, but a guy that could

858
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 3: make some adjustments with the right training and be right where.

859
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 3: That's why I say he's right where he wants to be. Uh,

860
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 3: and if they could fix some of the and I

861
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 3: don't know, it just happened to look like that, so

862
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:25,919
Speaker 3: you know, I'd have to look at the fight again.

863
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 3: But uh, he wasn't overwhelming in that fight, you know

864
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 3: what I mean. And it looked like and I thought,

865
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 3: I don't even know as I tell you that was

866
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 3: I wasn't really concentrating on the on the fight, but uh,

867
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 3: it looked like Covington was on his way to maybe

868
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 3: breaking him in. We never seen him in rounds four

869
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 3: and five, and Covington, you know, is always going to

870
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 3: have a good gas tank. So I think it was

871
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 3: unfortunate with the cut because I think it played a

872
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 3: big factor. And like Kenny brings out a good point,

873
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 3: like they wouldn't have stopped it in Vegas. Yet he

874
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 3: was seeing three of Buckley, So I'm sure that makes

875
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 3: the doctors in Vegas feel really good.

876
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 4: No, and I didn't know that Dana or somebody had

877
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 4: suggested that maybe the Nevada State Athletic Commission wouldn't have

878
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 4: stopped that fight. I mean, I'm not going to book

879
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 4: an optometrist or a plastic surgeon, but I think Colby

880
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 4: should be thankful his eyelid was preserved.

881
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 3: Well, well that's that's the that's the key. But it did.

882
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,760
Speaker 3: You're like when you when we just looked at the picture,

883
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 3: it didn't look like it was that bad, but it

884
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 3: was bleeding into his eye. Which that's part of the

885
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 3: reasons why they stop it because you can't see and

886
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 3: it's now it's yeah, you know you're you're at an

887
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 3: unfair advantage. But yeah, look this whole even the whole

888
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 3: I poked thing. If you think about Kenny, just tell

889
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 3: me if you agree with me on this. So they

890
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 3: I think it was Valente got poked in the eye

891
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 3: in Jersey and the rough came over and said can

892
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 3: you see said no, and they just stopped the fight.

893
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 3: So their way of handling this problem. I think we

894
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 3: discussed this before they all went back all the mighty

895
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 3: heads went back and they they came up with you

896
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 3: know what the solution was, don't ask him if he

897
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 3: now seriously, don't ask him if he could see, and

898
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 3: then we we don't have to stop the fight. I'd

899
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 3: be but logically, can we just say this, the guy

900
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 3: got poked in the eye. Can the doctor go in

901
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 3: and go can you see? And he goes no, and

902
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 3: she goes, I'm going to give you like three minutes

903
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 3: and then I'll come back. If you can't see after

904
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 3: three or four minutes, then I could see you start.

905
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 3: You just got poked in the eye. How could you see?

906
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 3: I swear to God, I don't get it. I really

907
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 3: don't get it. You know.

908
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 2: It's like what I'm don't ask a question if you

909
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 2: don't want to hear the answer.

910
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, But I mean you could ask and say, okay,

911
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 3: you can't see the rule, let's give you a couple

912
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 3: of minutes and then we'll figure it out. You know, like,

913
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 3: if you can't see going into the fight, obviously you're

914
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 3: out of the fight. But you just got poked in

915
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 3: the eye. What you get kicked in the bulls? Do

916
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 3: your bulls hurt? They're killing me? By the fight's over. Yeah,

917
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 3: they let it. They let your balls cool down a

918
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 3: little bit, let you get your breathing going, you know

919
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like your balls gold out, you get

920
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 3: your Adam's apple out of your throat, you know what

921
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 3: I mean? Then okay, go ahead, fight again. I don't

922
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 3: know just all of this shit is crazy, man to me,

923
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 3: But I don't know that. I think just brought me

924
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 3: on tonight with the idea. I don't know.

925
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 5: It seems like a better process now though, Ray. At

926
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 5: least where you know the doctor can come in, you

927
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 5: can actually get whatever is in your eye cleaned out.

928
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 5: You have more of a time to recover that, you know. Yeah,

929
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 5: the earlier stuff was just so silly.

930
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, hmmm, all right, Ray long go minute here.

931
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,760
Speaker 4: Great to have everybody with us live on the Anak

932
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 4: and Florian podcast. So I brought up Manell cop Okay

933
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 4: And if you don't know, Poomi Nakuda is a flyweight

934
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 4: who trains under Ray Longo. He is in my mind,

935
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 4: the best flyweight outside of the UFC looking in right now.

936
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 4: I have no idea why he is not on the roster.

937
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 4: I have a little bit of an idea, but I

938
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 4: really don't know. So I have promoted the fuck out

939
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 4: of Poomy Nakuda, so maybe I can say, with a

940
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 4: little comedic undertone, ray, there's no way he's beating menel

941
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 4: Cop last Saturday Night?

942
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 2: How good is this fucking menel Cop?

943
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 3: Huh my god, we could beat anybody. But yeah, uh

944
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 3: And if you have a little idea of boy, he's

945
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 3: not and I'd love to hear it, because I have

946
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 3: absolutely no fucking idea why he's not a little yeah,

947
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 3: one hundred percent, I'd love to know. But Cop, I'll

948
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 3: tell you what, between his microphone skills and the way

949
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 3: he fights, why they wouldn't give him the Pantosia fight

950
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 3: is beyond I think. I think he deserves to fight

951
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 3: just for entertainment value. Well, even if I mean the

952
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 3: guy's good, I think he fought a great fight. You know.

953
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 3: Uh he got rid of the guy, and I think

954
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 3: he deserves you know, in that division, he deserves a

955
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 3: shock because they're bringing in guys from Japan to fight Pantosi.

956
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 3: You got a couple of guys right here. I think

957
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 3: it would make for a good fight, and I think,

958
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 3: uh Cop is one of those guys. I'd throw him

959
00:44:58,200 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 3: into a title fight immediately.

960
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 5: For me, there's moments I'm not saying he is all

961
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 5: the time, but there's moments where I see him fight

962
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 5: where he looks like a top three striker. Ray, you know,

963
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 5: just the things that he can do. Where do you

964
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 5: place him in that conversation? Is he a top five,

965
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 5: top ten striker in the UFC?

966
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 3: You think in the UFC?

967
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 4: Kenny's talking top three striker across all divisions, across all divisions, male, female, black, white.

968
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 2: I got excited at watching that.

969
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know about he's good. I don't know,

970
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,959
Speaker 3: but i'd have to go through everybody but top top three.

971
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 3: I'd give him top ten for sure.

972
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 4: The thing about you're talking six hundred and fifty seven

973
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 4: hundred fighters, you're saying he's one of the top ten

974
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 4: best strikers and knows his way around the other realms

975
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 4: of mixed martial arts as well.

976
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 2: I just think it's interesting.

977
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 4: Ray.

978
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 2: I'm with you, like I'm sitting this dude down.

979
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 4: Even if Kai Cotta France is going to be next,

980
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 4: Like if I'm Kai watching all of this unfold, I'm thinking, man,

981
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 4: this is kind of worst case scenario in some respects.

982
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 4: Even though I have connect to tissue with Manel Cop,

983
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 4: Like I'm thinking, man you know, And then he starts

984
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 4: talking to Dana for a while, and I'm thinking, oh

985
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 4: my gosh, is Manel Cop gonna leap frog me even

986
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 4: though he just lost to Mohammed Makaive a few months ago.

987
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 4: You know, it's crazy sports nuts.

988
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 3: I just think with him, you got the complete package.

989
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 3: You know, the way he enters the actor, you know,

990
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 3: he hit this even a normal fight night. His person

991
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 3: Now he's pretty funny. I find the guy hysterical. No, No,

992
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 3: he's you know, I think he's I don't know, he's gonna.

993
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna draw attention to that division. Yeah,

994
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 3: you know, so I don't know. But he's a great

995
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 3: fight for for Manuel. And again he never disappoints on

996
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 3: the microphone, even even if he says he's not going

997
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 3: to curse this time. He's just he's funny. Man. Then

998
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 3: he goes. I find the guy funny. I really do.

999
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 3: I think he deserves a shot though, in that division,

1000
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 3: because I mean, if you're reaching for a guy from Japan,

1001
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 3: come on, just give give somebody. Ah God, even Cara

1002
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 3: France him, anybody.

1003
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 2: So in terms of reaching for a guy from Japan.

1004
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 4: I don't think your phraseology is wrong, but based upon

1005
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 4: what Kenny and I saw from Kaiasi Kora, we feel

1006
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 4: like he's going to beat a lot of these guys

1007
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 4: in the top ten.

1008
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 3: You know. Oh no, I'm not I'm saying no, that

1009
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,399
Speaker 3: guy's really good. I'm just saying you had to pull

1010
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 3: him from another organization, right right. You know, you have,

1011
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 3: like you just said, you have six hundred people on

1012
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 3: the rasta nobody you feel I could have fought for

1013
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 3: the title. You had to go out and grab somebody

1014
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 3: instead of you know, bringing the guy into the UFC,

1015
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,919
Speaker 3: letting him fight a top three guy and they giving

1016
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 3: him the title shot. I don't know.

1017
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean it did work out right because

1018
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 4: I think you were able to promote kai as well.

1019
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 4: And now when you move him forward against the Brandon

1020
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 4: Morenos of the world, I think it gives some sort

1021
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 4: of resuscitation to this division.

1022
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 2: But you're absolutely right, and we'll see.

1023
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, this division is I mean, they got rid of

1024
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 3: that kid off of win, but that could have been

1025
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 3: you know, personality boise and he was causing trouble. I

1026
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 3: don't know, but uh, yeah, I don't think it was

1027
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 3: off his fighting style, right, okayah okayah right, Uh, I

1028
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 3: don't know. It seems to be a division that is

1029
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 3: walking on egg shells.

1030
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually think I could name a fighter in

1031
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 4: every division who has had a hair transplant in Turkey

1032
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 4: at this pointent.

1033
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 3: Right back, I really couldn't want to make that public.

1034
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 3: So let's go.

1035
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,399
Speaker 2: Can we have a time I mean ten hair hair

1036
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 2: transplant list?

1037
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 4: So like when Dustin Pourrier shaves his head, I'm like, oh, DP,

1038
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 4: you look like a fucking gangster, right, Like I brought

1039
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 4: up Pantosa's military haircut in the pay per view open

1040
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 4: with Joe Rogan, right, I draw extra attention to it. Right,

1041
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 4: But when DP shaves his head, most of the fan

1042
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 4: base is missing the lettuce.

1043
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 3: Right.

1044
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 4: So when Pantos just shaves his head and he goes

1045
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 4: military haircut business approach, KaiOS akor we're going to take

1046
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 4: your back, fucking chokey unconscious. Right, Let's just hope he's

1047
00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 4: not shaving ahead to go to Turkey after the win,

1048
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 4: because it seems like everybody who shaves their head nowadays,

1049
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 4: he's not doing it for any other reason except that

1050
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 4: they're going to certain really shit.

1051
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 3: I might shake my head tomorrow.

1052
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 2: Hah.

1053
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 4: All right, so Dustin Jacoby plus seven hundred to beat

1054
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 4: v Tor Patrino by knockout. Now Jacoby had lost four

1055
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 4: or five, potentially fighting for his job. There were a

1056
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 4: lot of reasons to maybe feel like you might get

1057
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 4: a really focused, patient, desperate performance out of Dustin Jacoby,

1058
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 4: which you did.

1059
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 2: But my gosh, does this not speak to Kenny how

1060
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 2: tough this sport is?

1061
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 3: Right?

1062
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 4: Like v Tor Patrino looks like he would just melt

1063
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 4: most men in most any division, and now he's lost

1064
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 4: two in a row and he's got to be back

1065
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 4: in Brazil thinking like what am I doing wrong? Because

1066
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 4: he works already as good coaches and you know, another

1067
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 4: tough result for v Tor Patrino here courtesy of Dustin

1068
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 4: the Hanyak Jacoby.

1069
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, mma is kind of hard, man, It's kind of hard,

1070
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 5: you know, I would say this. I think for Petrino,

1071
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 5: I was curious to see how he's going to come

1072
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:08,919
Speaker 5: back after that loss.

1073
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 2: Ag at the Anthony Smith, I think he was he

1074
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 2: was aggressive at times.

1075
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 5: He was certainly the guy moving forward more than Jacoby,

1076
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 5: but I do think he was still a little hesitant

1077
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 5: at times. He I think maybe either he felt the

1078
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 5: power or just didn't want to get stopped again.

1079
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 2: But Jacoby, I thought, was patient enough.

1080
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 5: And then once he found his moment and got Patrino

1081
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 5: a little bit tired, and and once Patrino lost a

1082
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 5: little bit of confidence, that's when Jacoby really pounced on

1083
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 5: him and took advantage of him.

1084
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 2: But in Patrino, I see a guy who's.

1085
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 5: A little nervous, uh maybe overly emotional, a little spasy

1086
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 5: out there, and and I don't know, like it's you know,

1087
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 5: he dropped his hands a little bit and maybe just

1088
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 5: feels like he could bully most guys, but Jacoby is

1089
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 5: not most guys.

1090
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 3: That that's where I was going. I think he relies

1091
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 3: on his physicality because he's he's huge, and I think

1092
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 3: that's it gets him in trouble. In his head. I

1093
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,240
Speaker 3: think he believes he's kind of invincible because of his size,

1094
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 3: and then you know, and then it's too late.

1095
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 2: It's as having.

1096
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 5: On it for so long and you think that's gonna

1097
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 5: be But this also is a sport with a ton

1098
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 5: of skill and technique and experience, and.

1099
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,399
Speaker 3: He probably was wouldn't that fight up until the time

1100
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 3: he got caught to so in his head everything's going good.

1101
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 3: You know. Jacobe was laying back and being patient and

1102
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 3: kind of helping that narrative alone. Yeah, and then he

1103
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 3: got caught.

1104
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 6: You know.

1105
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 4: Yeah. I do think Kenny, You're onto something in terms

1106
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 4: of Petrino's nerves and just needs to I think believe

1107
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 4: in himself a little bit more than he does at times.

1108
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 3: Ray.

1109
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 4: One other thing I wanted to talk to you about,

1110
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,959
Speaker 4: and certainly some connection between Billy Corntello and your team

1111
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 4: and Matt Will and everything else, and hard to see

1112
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 4: Billy Q on the wrong side of that result, even

1113
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 4: though we all feel great for killer cups wants and

1114
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 4: get out your knife and bear emojis, ladies and gentlemen,

1115
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 4: But what was your thought on Billy Q and just

1116
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 4: this overall sort of blood and guts warrior style, right,

1117
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 4: Like Joshua Van is a flyweight who cares only but

1118
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 4: Ery cares really only about entertaining the fans, and that's

1119
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,280
Speaker 4: how he's going to make his money. Even if Joshua

1120
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 4: Van might have the potentially be a UFC champion, he's

1121
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 4: not going to wrestle or grapple. I'm just telling you,

1122
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 4: you know, so, I don't know, man, I just feel

1123
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 4: like Billy Q this was a winnable fight and ends

1124
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 4: up getting knocked out cold.

1125
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1126
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 4: Uh.

1127
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 3: You know, Billy's style of fighting obviously isn't for longevity,

1128
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? And I think he has

1129
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 3: to take a bunch of punches to get what he wants.

1130
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 3: Look it looked like he was going to break cups,

1131
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 3: thrownts and down to me, and I figure and well,

1132
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 3: first off, hats off the cubs wants Ie. Being able

1133
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 3: to pot shot from the outside like that was phenomenal,

1134
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 3: But you could see he doesn't want to get into

1135
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 3: like a slugfest for a duration of time. He wants

1136
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 3: to pot shot and try to stay on the outside,

1137
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 3: which he did beautifully, really did. I mean that was

1138
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 3: experienced some old school tricks. And then when he had

1139
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 3: the opportunity, man, he sat down on that hook cross

1140
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 3: just about as good as anybody, no matter how what

1141
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 3: age they are. So hats off to him and and

1142
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 3: Billy I thought was gonna it was gonna be that

1143
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 3: type of fight where he was he was aggressive. You know,

1144
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 3: he you burn out by hitting him, which you know,

1145
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 3: like again for Billy, I think that's his style that's

1146
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,800
Speaker 3: where he's going to live and die in that style,

1147
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 3: and now it's starting to get to the point where

1148
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 3: it's not really working out for him. But I still

1149
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 3: thought that was a winnable fight, and I thought he

1150
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 3: was going to win that fight right up until that point.

1151
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 3: So hats off the cop and I hope Billy's al

1152
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 3: raised just an exceptionally great kid, and uh, you know

1153
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 3: what he's done. You know what he's had, you know,

1154
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 3: his gifts, I think is phenomenal right now, So he's

1155
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,839
Speaker 3: got nothing to you know, be ashamed of or any

1156
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 3: of that shit he's he's had. You know, he's had

1157
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 3: a good run. So we'll see see where he goes.

1158
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 3: But that was a winnable fight and he didn't get

1159
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 3: the job done. And had so off the cub Swanson

1160
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 3: because I was blown away by his his ability to

1161
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 3: you know, to be like a sniper in that fight.

1162
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 3: And then when he had to throw a little bitty

1163
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 3: he could even do that. But he wasn't going to

1164
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 3: do that for an extended period of time. So yeah, yeah,

1165
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 3: so I don't know, I think Billy's got to go

1166
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 3: back to the drawing board, and you know, he's got

1167
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 3: good jiu jitsu. You know, maybe you know, start taking

1168
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 3: a different approach, but guys like Billy, they're just warriors, man,

1169
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 3: it's it's in it, it's in his blood, and I

1170
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 3: don't I don't know if there's any change in them.

1171
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate your thoughtful analysis on that.

1172
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 4: And then one more note, guys, I don't know if

1173
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 4: you have anything on Michael Johnson, but he gets a

1174
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 4: performance of the night bonus and just sort of a

1175
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 4: guy Kenny whose career I know you guys in some

1176
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 4: part are from the same era or at least crossing

1177
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 4: over there at the tail end of your career at

1178
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty five pounds on even UFC career

1179
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 4: for him, some shining moments. A main event knockout of

1180
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 4: Dustin Poier and Idalgo, Texas in twenty sixteen comes to mind,

1181
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 4: but it's had a lot of bad luck. So I

1182
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 4: just felt really good for Michael Johnson getting that type

1183
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 4: of knockout over the weekend. He's a really good athlete,

1184
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 4: and you know when he finds that knockout stroke, man,

1185
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 4: it's usually pretty pretty crawd pleasing.

1186
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 5: He still got it, man, he still has the power,

1187
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 5: still has the speed. It was great to see him

1188
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 5: get a win at this point in his career. And

1189
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 5: physically he looked like he was in great shape, looked

1190
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 5: like he put on a little muscle as well. So

1191
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 5: I think he's really focused on improving as a fighter,

1192
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 5: and I think that's been the case for a little bit.

1193
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 5: And during that process, you know, mixed martial arts, you

1194
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 5: certainly have that chaos and volatility.

1195
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 2: But now I think maybe he's kind of.

1196
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 5: Gotten more comfortable or gotten better as a fighter where

1197
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 5: he can kind of unleash those skills a little bit

1198
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 5: more and hopefully we'll see more wins from him. But

1199
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 5: he seems really dedicated and hope to see some more

1200
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 5: consistency from him. But a great win there, yeah, yeah, great,

1201
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 5: great win.

1202
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 3: And plus you know he's had obviously, he says ups

1203
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 3: and downs. I think he was even complaining about like

1204
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 3: he had no money a couple of months ago. So

1205
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 3: I'm glad he got the bonus. But yeah, here's a

1206
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 3: guy like again, you say he knocked out Dustin. I

1207
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 3: mean I thought he was the first guy to connect

1208
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 3: with Kabeb kind of maybe rattled them a little bit.

1209
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 3: So I mean, think of the moments this guy's had yet,

1210
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 3: and the people that he's fought, and how long he's

1211
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:26,919
Speaker 3: been around. I just hope it ends up really well

1212
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 3: for him, because I'm happy for the guy, and I mean,

1213
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 3: he's he's been fighting his bulls for so many years.

1214
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,280
Speaker 3: I think he should have a little nesting somewhere.

1215
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 4: Well. No, and that's I know what you were getting at, right,

1216
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:40,439
Speaker 4: it's tough. I think teaching is the profession that has

1217
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 4: failed the most to short sort of adjust with the

1218
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 4: times and inflation. Right, teaching is such an amazing necessary profession,

1219
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:51,720
Speaker 4: and yet it would be one that I would probably

1220
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 4: discourage my daughters from going into because they still don't

1221
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 4: pay teachers. And you'd love for Michael Johnson at this

1222
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 4: stage of his career to be making some sort of

1223
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 4: robust show money, but he's never had the type of

1224
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 4: winning streak that I guess has resulted in that big contract.

1225
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 3: You know, Yep, that's the problem, And tell you do

1226
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 3: it to come to New York, because the teachers don't

1227
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:12,320
Speaker 3: pay bed over here to do.

1228
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:14,479
Speaker 2: No, that's really the one state you're right.

1229
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:15,879
Speaker 3: There doing pretty damn well.

1230
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 4: Yes, No, you're right, all right, Before we play a

1231
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 4: quick game of would you rather with you two gentlemen

1232
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 4: on the way out ray one hard hitting question on

1233
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 4: Chris Wiman, and a few of our listeners and viewers

1234
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 4: have wanted to know the answer to this, and I'm

1235
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 4: not trying to put you on the spot, but the

1236
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 4: question essentially is, what do you do as a coach

1237
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 4: when maybe you're walking around, even at the grocery store,

1238
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 4: and someone says, hey, coach man, time to tell Chris

1239
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 4: Wyman to retire.

1240
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 2: Dude, you got to tell him to hang them up?

1241
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 4: You know, what do you do in that situation?

1242
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 2: Oh shit, can you hear me?

1243
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 3: Yeah? Sorry?

1244
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 2: What do you do in that situation as a coach?

1245
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,919
Speaker 4: And do you feel any pressure when people say, dude,

1246
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 4: he's lost a step, he's not as quick offensively or

1247
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 4: defensively to how do you handle that question? And how

1248
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 4: do you involve yourself or not?

1249
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 3: So wait the questions. I'm at a grocery store and

1250
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 3: somebody asked me that. Somebody tells me that, Well.

1251
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 2: What do you say at the grocery store?

1252
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I take a can of brown beans and I

1253
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 3: crash it right off his fucking head. That's what That's

1254
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 3: how that plays out now. And I'm only kiding. Listen,

1255
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 3: if I was to hit everybody with a can of

1256
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 3: beans in the head every time they said something negative,

1257
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 3: and this sport is banana's man bananas. But well, joking aside. Look,

1258
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 3: it's a conversation.

1259
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 4: Uh.

1260
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 3: I think for the first time, you know, Chris is realized,

1261
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 3: you know, he's getting up there and the injuries of

1262
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 3: catching up to him. So uh, I think he's he's

1263
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 3: gonna make a decision, probably in the next couple of

1264
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 3: months or whatever, and we'll see what happens. But you know,

1265
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 3: I'm sure he wants to go out on the win.

1266
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 3: But he was definitely very unhappy with what happened, uh

1267
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:56,439
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago.

1268
00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, well handled by you. Before we let

1269
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 4: Ray Long go go, I have a game of would

1270
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:08,479
Speaker 4: you rather these questions? Courtesy of Men's Health Ray. Would

1271
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 4: you rather have to work the most miserable job imaginable

1272
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 4: for a year or die one year earlier?

1273
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 3: I probably take the miserable job.

1274
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 2: Catflow, You've dug a lot of ditches in your day.

1275
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 4: Would you rather have to work the most miserable job

1276
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 4: imaginable for a year or die one year earlier? Would

1277
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 4: you rather be in the Copper Minds in Arizona with

1278
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 4: Justin Gaitschee's father, or die at you know, ninety eight

1279
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 4: instead of ninety nine.

1280
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 5: You know, if I have a family and all that stuff,

1281
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 5: I'm working, I'm working the crappy job, right.

1282
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 2: If I'm single, like nothing going on? Maybe maybe I

1283
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 2: check out a year earlier? Ray, would you rather spend

1284
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 2: a year entirely alone? No human beings whatsoever? I know

1285
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 2: you're smiling. That sounds glorious.

1286
00:59:57,800 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 3: Would you rather.

1287
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 4: Spend a year in time entirely alone? Or a year

1288
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 4: without a home?

1289
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 3: Wait?

1290
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 2: Dark on the Annakin Florida podcast, this is like a

1291
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 2: positive one.

1292
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 3: Wait, hold on second, so wait, what was it? It

1293
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 3: was a year alone or a year without a home?

1294
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 4: Scintillating radio is repeating the question. Here it is again. Yeah,

1295
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 4: would you rather spend a year entirely alone, no human beings,

1296
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 4: no fucking Lucky the dog, entirely by yourself? Or a

1297
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 4: year without a home homeless? But you could talk to people?

1298
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 3: Well, let me be by myself. I'll show you the

1299
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 3: text message my wife wrote me this morning. Trust me,

1300
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 3: I want to be alone. I'll I'll think three years alone.

1301
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 3: How's that?

1302
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 2: Do you have that text message for our audience.

1303
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 3: Definitely not happening.

1304
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 2: Okay, any okay, that's great. Now we got to talk

1305
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 2: about it. Okay, you guys are alied there, all right?

1306
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 3: Ray?

1307
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 4: Would you rather never eat your favorite food for the

1308
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:01,479
Speaker 4: rest of your life or only eat your favorite food?

1309
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 3: What the hell kind of what is that? Would you?

1310
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 2: You can go in time? It's been a half hour.

1311
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 3: Yeah right now, I'll take my favorite food for the

1312
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 3: rest of my life. I've been doing for the last

1313
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 3: ten years.

1314
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 4: Anyway, So is there more fun for you on the

1315
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 4: other side of this show? It seems like it, Kenny,

1316
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 4: I think about Kenny. Would you rather never eat your

1317
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 4: favorite food for the rest of your life or only

1318
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:30,959
Speaker 4: eat your favorite food?

1319
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 2: I would probably only eat my favorite food. Yeah, look

1320
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 2: at you?

1321
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 3: Yeah? All right?

1322
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 4: A few more here, Ray, Would you rather never have

1323
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 4: to wait in line or always have a parking spot?

1324
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 3: I don't want to wait in line. I'll take the

1325
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 3: wait What was that a note?

1326
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 2: I wait?

1327
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 3: Hold on second, I never want to wait in line,

1328
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 3: so I'm taking the other one.

1329
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 4: You don't strike me as a guy who waits in

1330
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 4: line a lot. You seem to be a vi P

1331
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 4: type guy.

1332
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 3: No, oh, yeah, if I'm not walking right in, I'm

1333
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 3: walking right the fuck out online at this line, at

1334
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 3: this at this stage of the.

1335
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 4: Game, we are going to have Joe Romero design a

1336
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 4: T shirt with your face and a quote bubble. That's

1337
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 4: a quote bubble that says I'm either walking right in

1338
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 4: or I'm walking right out right Kenny. It's it's a

1339
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 4: dime of a quote there from long ago that slaps

1340
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 4: I want slaps Kenny.

1341
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, Would you rather never have to wait in

1342
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 2: line or always have a parking spot? Hm hmm. That's

1343
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 2: kind of one of my superpowers. I always kind of

1344
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 2: find a parking spot. I would say I hate waiting, though, dude,

1345
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 2: I hate waiting. I don't want to wait in line.

1346
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 5: That's my.

1347
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 2: Brutal Hey do you have to leave?

1348
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 4: No? All right? Would you rather only be able to

1349
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 4: whisper or only be able to shout?

1350
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 3: Uh?

1351
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 2: Can you imagine if I can only shout? I can

1352
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 2: only fucking shot.

1353
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 1: I'm in my twin brother's house right now. Hi, girl, Sorry,

1354
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 1: I can only fucking shout.

1355
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 3: I'll take the whispering.

1356
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like to place in order to go.

1357
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 1: I like a large onion pizza, thin crust extra crispy.

1358
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 1: I like a side of under the rings well done

1359
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 1: and a large cold.

1360
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 5: At a certain point when you get when you get older,

1361
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:35,919
Speaker 5: that's kind of what you're gonna do. I would prefer

1362
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 5: the whispering as well. I like I I I'm probably

1363
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 5: too loud.

1364
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 3: So yeah, my vocal cords would go out immediately.

1365
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, my haters, my pool of haters just got deeper.

1366
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 2: I would rather be able to whisper every day of

1367
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 2: the week. That shouting would be the most obnoxious thing.

1368
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 2: All right. Would you rather always ray?

1369
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 4: Would you rather always have wet socks or a small

1370
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 4: rock in your shoe?

1371
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 3: I'll take what sucks, ken Flu? What do you have

1372
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 3: for I have a warn socks in about three years either.

1373
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 5: Oh gosh, yeah, they're both terrible. But I you know

1374
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 5: that that rock in your shoe, that's got to be annoying.

1375
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 5: That's gotta be more annoying. Yeah, I'll go with the

1376
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 5: what sock?

1377
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 3: Ray?

1378
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 4: Would you rather never age physically or never age mentally?

1379
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 3: Oh oh, that's a tough one.

1380
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 2: I would rather never age physically.

1381
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 4: I'm vain.

1382
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with that, okay, Ken Flu?

1383
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'd definitely like to have

1384
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 5: the ability to move normally again.

1385
01:04:57,880 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 2: That'd be nice. That'd be nice because I'm feeling that.

1386
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, three more, three more? Would you rather

1387
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 4: win fifty thousand dollars or let your best friend win

1388
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 4: five hundred thousand dollars? Uh?

1389
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 3: I think I'd rather win the fifty thousand. I mean

1390
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 3: you employing that my best friend's going to give me

1391
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 3: more than fifty thousand if he wins the five hundred

1392
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,439
Speaker 3: I'll take. I'll take the cash money.

1393
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 4: Fifty grand can flow fifty grand for you or five

1394
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 4: hundred grand to your best friend.

1395
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 2: I'm taking fifty grand. I'm buying bitcoin with it.

1396
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 7: That's what I'm Yeah, maybe you're in a good spot now, man, Ray,

1397
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 7: would you rather save the lives of your three closest

1398
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 7: family members or one thousand people?

1399
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 2: You don't know?

1400
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 4: What?

1401
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 3: What is this guy? Like? What did this guy do this? Oh?

1402
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 2: My god?

1403
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 3: Did you take like Paoti these fucking questions?

1404
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 2: Okay?

1405
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 3: Everybody would want to save a thousand people instead of

1406
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 3: their family?

1407
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 2: No, God, saving family, Kenny.

1408
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 4: I would imagine you're saving your wife and two kids

1409
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 4: or a thousand randoms?

1410
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, my family?

1411
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 3: All right?

1412
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 4: And before we got to Ray, would you rather have

1413
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 4: a permanent unibrow or no eyebrows at all?

1414
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 2: And then you can go on with the rest of

1415
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 2: your Monday. Oh my gosh, it's amazing.

1416
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 3: Uh I'm going with no white no white brows at all.

1417
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 2: All right at Ray Long Ago, m m A. Enjoy

1418
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 2: the rest of your day.

1419
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 3: This has been so much fun. Okay, I'm so glad.

1420
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're gonna do you know what next week is,

1421
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 4: I'm not even no, I'm not even gonna tell you,

1422
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 4: but it'll be more creative fun for you.

1423
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 3: And uh we come in with our Christmas heads on.

1424
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 2: Yeah we can do that.

1425
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 4: And just know that, Uh, anybody who's shopping for Ray

1426
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 4: long and go for Christmas, don't buy him socks because

1427
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 4: he works out without that, no sucks. And are as

1428
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 4: you Ry Long go minute mug, Yes, they get the

1429
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 4: cut of the proceeds. And as you might have gleaned

1430
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 4: from that game of would you rather, none of the

1431
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 4: proceeds for Ray's merch goes to charity?

1432
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 3: So it goes to your charity? What are you talking

1433
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 3: about it?

1434
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 2: Then? Florent Podcast is not responsible for any holes in

1435
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 2: any right Long Minute.

1436
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 4: Every week here on the Anacond Flooring podcast, can flow

1437
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 4: unibrow or no eyebrows at all?

1438
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 3: For me?

1439
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 2: I lacked these pigs off right away. If I didn't

1440
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 2: pluck this, it'd be a unibrow. Let's go no eyebrows?

1441
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 4: That that'd be yeah, all right, a few questions with

1442
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 4: Ken Flow on the way out. We got three fighters, Kenny,

1443
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 4: you fight with one, party with one? Commentate with one.

1444
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 5: Oh god, let's see uh fight, let's do uh eliots Toporia.

1445
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 5: He's he's the best guy out there right now. It

1446
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 5: probably wouldn't go very well for me right now at

1447
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 5: the present moment, but uh hey, you get a little cash,

1448
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:16,640
Speaker 5: you know, test myself against the best right now in

1449
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 5: the game. I think party, Uh, let's see Bryce Mitchell

1450
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 5: would be fun to party. That's a great answer. Yeah,

1451
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 5: have fun conversations, I think, uh, and commentation.

1452
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 2: Creational drugs with John Jones.

1453
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 3: There you go.

1454
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, commentate with one would be the final CRT. Yeah,

1455
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 2: commentate with one. You know. You know what's funny? I

1456
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 2: did shows with with Daniel Cormi. I never commentated with Daniel.

1457
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 5: Oh wow, that so that would that would that would

1458
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 5: be fun to commentate with good old DC.

1459
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:48,840
Speaker 4: All Right, I have some countries, and I'm ripping this

1460
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 4: straight off from my friends at odd Shark, but it

1461
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 4: was a pretty difficult exercise.

1462
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:53,679
Speaker 2: And I thought it was fun.

1463
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 4: So I am going to rip off a country and

1464
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 4: you are going to tell me the first mixed martial

1465
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 4: arts athlete.

1466
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 2: That comes to mind.

1467
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 4: Okay, and I do in the future want to do

1468
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:09,520
Speaker 4: like a state by state one and drop a Louisiana

1469
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:11,600
Speaker 4: on you, so you can say Dustin Pourier and not

1470
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 4: Daniel Cormier. Right, but I'm going to say a country

1471
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:16,880
Speaker 4: and you're going to tell me the MMA fighter that

1472
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 4: first comes to mind.

1473
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 2: All right, let's do this. Brazil Anderson Silva so.

1474
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 4: Interesting, right, I'm not going to stop after all of these, right,

1475
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 4: But yes, Jose Aldo is more my era, even though

1476
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:33,640
Speaker 4: I called fights involving both of those guys. But it

1477
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:36,559
Speaker 4: is interesting how the King of Rio was the first

1478
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:38,640
Speaker 4: name on the tip of my tongue. And I do

1479
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:42,759
Speaker 4: think that Jose now has transcended a few different eras

1480
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 4: by retiring, entering the Hall of Fame, coming back out.

1481
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:48,800
Speaker 4: But yes, I believe most people when probed would say

1482
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 4: Anderson Silva. Shout out to Vitr Bellefort as well. Dirty

1483
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 4: v Tour greatest fighter in UFC history.

1484
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 2: All right.

1485
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 4: The country that has realized the most success in the

1486
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:00,919
Speaker 4: UFC the United State States of America.

1487
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, h Randy Koe Tour.

1488
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm saying Kotor or the Iceman, Chuck Ladell, Tito

1489
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:17,520
Speaker 4: Ortiz maybe comes to mind for some John Jones of course, Nigeria,

1490
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 4: Kennedy and Zechaku other than him, though you can't pick

1491
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:23,639
Speaker 4: Kennedy other than Kennedy.

1492
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 2: I don't know who else is from Night and yeah.

1493
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:30,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, well that was the time for me because it

1494
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 4: came down to Izzy and kamaraw So they tried to

1495
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 4: back me into a corner, trying to decide if it

1496
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 4: was Usmann or Izzy.

1497
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:41,840
Speaker 5: Okay, So for me, I I associate with Kamorrow more. Yeah, right,

1498
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 5: for whatever reason I don't know or whatever, but yeah, both.

1499
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:50,720
Speaker 4: Born there if I'm not mistaken, you know, but you

1500
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:53,360
Speaker 4: might have gone Kennedy and Zechiku if you were allowed,

1501
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 4: but understanding fully that you weren't allowed, right. Uh.

1502
01:10:56,840 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 2: Australia is vulk Australian, Yes, born and raised, babe, Let's

1503
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 2: do bulk.

1504
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1505
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 4: Robert Whittaker also an acceptable answer, born in little More

1506
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 4: New Zealand, Japan.

1507
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 2: I mean Kazushi Saka, Robber.

1508
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:19,640
Speaker 4: Bro China, Jong Way Lee.

1509
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 2: Isn't that interesting, right, Jeong Way Lee?

1510
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1511
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:28,560
Speaker 5: Russia to Ben AMaGA, Madoff or Fad or one of

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Speaker 5: those two, those are like yeah, yeah, yeah, right.

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Speaker 4: The point is you can't pick Fador and Kabe, but

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Speaker 4: you did a pretty decent job. And I'm the last,

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Speaker 4: all right. And then the last thing I just want

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01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 4: to say, And you know, some of our fan base

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Speaker 4: doesn't want us to spend any time talking about Connor McGregor, right,

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01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:51,559
Speaker 4: but if you would have suggested to me six months,

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01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 4: twelve months after the leg break that this man would

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01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 4: never compete in mixed martial arts again, I would say,

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Speaker 4: you're absolutely crazy.

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Speaker 2: I would have scoffed at the notion.

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Speaker 4: I still to this day, Pistol to my temple would

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01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:04,640
Speaker 4: say that he will compete in the UFC, Right, but

1525
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 4: my gosh, man, so much doubt has been cast upon that.

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Speaker 4: And even as we're talking about Kolbe Covington, you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm thinking, yeah, that fight actually has some merit right now,

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Speaker 4: but to what extent do.

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Speaker 2: People really care?

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Speaker 4: So if Connor McGregor had never boxed Floyd Mayweather, and

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01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 4: that just promotionally wasn't allowed or he never made that crossover.

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Speaker 2: What do you think his MMA career would look like?

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Speaker 4: And would he have more than the one career win

1534
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:37,519
Speaker 4: in the UFC at one hundred and fifty five pounds

1535
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 4: than he does now?

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Speaker 5: This to me is the most interesting question, right, And

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01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 5: we've all heard of the butterfly effect, where you know,

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01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:48,679
Speaker 5: one little change, can you know change everything?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 5: And I think with something like that, it was both

1541
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 5: a blessing and a curse. If he did not fight

1542
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Speaker 5: Floyd Mayweather, I think he would have been a little

1543
01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 5: less famous, a little less rich may.

1544
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 2: Maybe a lot less who knows.

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01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:05,080
Speaker 5: And I think as a result, would be a little

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01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 5: less enticed by that money and fame perhaps, and and

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01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 5: would have been more consistent with mixed martial arts and

1548
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 5: would have stayed more focused perhaps and healthier maybe, and

1549
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 5: with a better record in mixed martial arts in my opinion.

1550
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Speaker 5: Taking that time off, I think may have heard him

1551
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 5: for his mixed martial arts career. And you know, I

1552
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:33,440
Speaker 5: think that it's a fascinating study because Connor has manifested

1553
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 5: so many great things in his life, and because he

1554
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 5: has done that you almost feel like you're superhuman and

1555
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:43,599
Speaker 5: like you're infallible, But the reality is is you are

1556
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 5: human and you will be enticed by other things, and

1557
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:53,800
Speaker 5: minding that balance is interesting. And I think that maybe

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01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 5: maybe that Floyd Mayweather fight was was a bad thing.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: His bank account would argue against that, but I think

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01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 5: we would have seen a much more consistent and better

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01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 5: mixed martial artist.

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Speaker 2: I would argue if that fight didn't take place.

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Speaker 4: There are a lot of fighters for whom you could

1565
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:12,639
Speaker 4: ask the question, oh, what could have been? And certainly

1566
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 4: when it comes to John Jones in terms of his

1567
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:17,760
Speaker 4: bank account, you can say, man, what could have been

1568
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 4: had there not been some of these side steps?

1569
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 2: The Nike deal potentially could still be there.

1570
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:25,680
Speaker 4: This could be a guy whose net worth is a

1571
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 4: quarter of a billion dollars at this point in time,

1572
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 4: But what could have been? When it comes to Connor

1573
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 4: McGregor's mixed martial arts career, because he will always be

1574
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:37,640
Speaker 4: the double chant, the first simultaneous two division champion in

1575
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 4: UFC history, a belt on each shoulder. But the craziest

1576
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 4: statistic to me in UFC history is the Connor McGregor

1577
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 4: for all of his ability. Has one win at one

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01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty five pounds his best weight class right

1579
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 4: one win in the UFC A one.

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Speaker 2: To fifty five.

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01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:53,640
Speaker 4: It was over Eddie Alvarez for the title, did not

1582
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 4: defend that belt, and a lot of those you know,

1583
01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 4: Nate Diez and other fights, Cowboys, Throni fights were at

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Speaker 4: one hundred and seventy pounds.

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Speaker 2: All right, Before we go, I just want to let

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Speaker 2: everybody know the tenth.

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Speaker 4: Annual AFPAS, the Anak and Florian Podcast Awards will be Monday,

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Speaker 4: December thirtieth.

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Speaker 2: We might go live.

1590
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 4: We'll see a lot of sound elements that make it

1591
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:15,320
Speaker 4: a little bit you know, prohibitive.

1592
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:15,479
Speaker 2: To do that live.

1593
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 4: But here are categories you can send your nominations in

1594
01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 4: over the next two weeks to at Annik Florian Pod. Certainly,

1595
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 4: when it comes to like Knockout of the Year, we

1596
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 4: don't need you to say, you know, Max Holloway over

1597
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 4: justin Gatgee at UFC three hundred. But if you have

1598
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 4: a knockout that maybe we are forgetting by all means,

1599
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:37,320
Speaker 4: put it on the radar. So we have UFC Rookie

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Speaker 4: of the Year, we have Breakout Star of the Year,

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01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 4: We have our Robert Fallis Memorial Coach slash Cornerman of

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01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 4: the Year, Upset of the Year, Anthony Rumble Johnson Memorial

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Speaker 4: Knockout of the Year, Submission of the Year, the Stefan

1604
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 4: Bonner American Psycho Memorial Fight of the Year, Female Fighter

1605
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:59,639
Speaker 4: of the Year, the Adam Snacks Geller Memorial Male Fighter

1606
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 4: of the Year, and Personality of the Year. Best of

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01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 4: luck taking Poeton's Trophy for twenty twenty four Personality of

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01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:09,559
Speaker 4: the Year. So those are the categories at Ada Florian pod.

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01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 4: If you would like to send in your nominations, that

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Speaker 4: would be appreciated.

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Speaker 2: All right, don't forget john Ada dot com.

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Speaker 4: For all if your holiday merchandise needs I do believe

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Speaker 4: if you order here in the not too distant future,

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Speaker 4: it will be here by Christmas. Promo code is twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty five. Thanks to our producer Cody Merrow, Thanks to

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01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 4: the great Ray Longo, and of course the man around

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01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 4: whom this show is built, the great Kenny Florian for

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01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 4: kem plum John and thank you all for watching, for listening,

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Speaker 4: Tell your friends happy holidays.

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Speaker 2: We will talk to you next Monday. Until then, yo,

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Speaker 2: fucking later,