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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Ozone Podcast, presented by by Star Credit Union,

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Speaker 1: featuring Jaguar Senior writer John Hosier and executive producer Dave

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Speaker 1: de Candice. We have a guest this week. I think

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Speaker 1: people are really going to enjoy and being excited about.

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Speaker 1: It's Jaguar's second years safety Andrew Wingard. I said, Andrew,

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Speaker 1: as we'll learn, there's many many different names we can

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Speaker 1: we can call him by. But the storyline this week

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Speaker 1: is fascinating. A huge interception that I don't wanna say

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Speaker 1: it beat the Colts, but sure had a big hand

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Speaker 1: in it the other day. Uh, he's a guy who's

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Speaker 1: very interesting to talk to in terms of his off

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Speaker 1: the field. I think people are gonna enjoy it, so

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Speaker 1: we'll get right to it. There's more to him than

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Speaker 1: the interception. We'll get into more than the interception. But

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Speaker 1: Andrew talked about the interception. I mean, Phil couldn't have

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Speaker 1: stared it down much longer. Candy Now, it was It

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Speaker 1: was a it was a really really cool moment um.

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Speaker 1: You know, I just always, you know, trained my butt

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Speaker 1: off for to be ready. You know, I came in

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Speaker 1: this this camp, you know, wanting to prove myself that

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Speaker 1: I can play that third safety spot and back up

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Speaker 1: both spots, and um, you know, I knew if if

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Speaker 1: one of those two guys went down, I'd have to

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Speaker 1: come in and perform, and that's that's what I do.

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Speaker 1: And I came in and got the job done. So

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Speaker 1: I'm super super happy and just excited to build on that.

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Speaker 1: How many plays had you been in when that play

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Speaker 1: came refresh my memory? Yeah, I was in on the

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Speaker 1: series before Josh got up a little bit, so it

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Speaker 1: wasn't I was a little my blood was flown by things,

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Speaker 1: so that that's but you replaced Jared on that series.

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Speaker 1: Being being multiple, being able to replace both those guys,

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Speaker 1: you know, strong and free, being able to come down

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Speaker 1: in the box as well as play the past. So, um,

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Speaker 1: just being able to do both of those helped me

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Speaker 1: a lot. Now, if you've ever seen me, you know

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Speaker 1: I didn't play the game, and I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of our our viewers didn't play the game. Take me

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Speaker 1: through that feeling when you know you've got the break,

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Speaker 1: you know you've read his eyes, you know you've done

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Speaker 1: your job, and now the balls in the air and

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Speaker 1: you gotta catch it. I know there's not a lot

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Speaker 1: of time, but take the listener through that. What is

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Speaker 1: in you when that's happening. Yeah, it's it's actually pretty

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Speaker 1: crazy because you know, you're you're standing there and you

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Speaker 1: you got your pre snap you know, a little indicator

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Speaker 1: that you know the backs away, so I'm alert for

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Speaker 1: that that spear out by the by the W receiver

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Speaker 1: and you know, he took that exact release and I

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Speaker 1: was like, okay, um, I'm gonna jump. You know, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna jump the crap out of this. And you know

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Speaker 1: I was I kind of shadowed over the top of it,

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Speaker 1: and as I was, as I started to drive it,

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Speaker 1: I just saw a phil you know eye in it

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Speaker 1: down the whole time. And it's kind of crazy. You

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Speaker 1: know people say their their life kind of goes into

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Speaker 1: slow mo, but it really, honestly kind of goes into

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Speaker 1: really about to throw it right now. I don't think

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Speaker 1: he sees me. And then you know, as the ball

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Speaker 1: goes you know, many times in practice, you know I've

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Speaker 1: I've drove down on a route and stuff like that,

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Speaker 1: and you know, dropped an easy pick and you're like,

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Speaker 1: dang am I gonna be able to do that in

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Speaker 1: the game. But honestly, when you're in that moment and

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Speaker 1: you're your adrenalinees flying you, you kind of black out.

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Speaker 1: And honestly, like I, it was so easy to catch

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Speaker 1: and it just kind of came in slowly like it

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Speaker 1: a super cool, super cool feeling, and that's those are

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Speaker 1: the kind of things you you know, you live for

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Speaker 1: playing this game because it's you know, statistically, if you

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Speaker 1: look at the posts, even just great, great defensive players

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Speaker 1: might have fifty or sixty of these things in a career.

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Speaker 1: It's a long career. Opportunities for picks don't come along

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Speaker 1: Because those things do not come often. Like you said,

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Speaker 1: take me through your your celebration. Afterwards, I saw glimpses

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Speaker 1: was it was a super cool moment, and I definitely

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Speaker 1: But it felt good. So I was gonna say, when

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Speaker 1: sell a great in high school. You're sort of selling

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Speaker 1: yourself short a little bit. Yeah, you're an unknown in

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Speaker 1: a lot of impact in college. Um, I guess just

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Speaker 1: you know, outside noise other things like that. And you know,

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Speaker 1: people are completely entitled to their opinions, but I'm also

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Speaker 1: completely entitled to not you know, give a crap what

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Speaker 1: Right now, here's what I said. Do you love do

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Speaker 1: L three young kickoff. You know, I just love football

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Speaker 1: So you know, you see a lot of guys in

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Speaker 1: There's three parts of the game. Special teams is that

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Speaker 1: a few of these players, there's some guys on this

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Speaker 1: Jaguars team that are mature with the perspective beyond their years.

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Speaker 1: I think he fits into that. My theory as to

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Speaker 1: why is he's played a lot of football with a

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Speaker 1: star at Wyoming, even though he was unknown in a

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Speaker 1: lot of places, so he's been through it a lot.

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Speaker 1: He's been a leader, he's played at a high level.

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Speaker 1: But he's got a pretty good perspective on the NFL.

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Speaker 1: He does indeed, And uh, it's funny around the building.

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Speaker 1: I think mostly people call him Dewey that I've been around.

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Speaker 1: It's funny. I haven't you know, he was a rookie

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Speaker 1: last year. I hadn't dealt with him much. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is probably my first time being involved in something

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Speaker 1: he was doing. And uh, he was a great interview

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Speaker 1: and really had some nice perspective for you know, a

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Speaker 1: guy who's only in the second year in the league.

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Speaker 1: And um, it's interesting to see and it's had a

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Speaker 1: funny and he kind of talked about at the end

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Speaker 1: about this team. And I know we're a week into this,

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Speaker 1: but it feels like this team is super close already,

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Speaker 1: and that's pretty good. Since there was no off season

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Speaker 1: program they were in training camp. Training camp was weird.

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Speaker 1: And I mean even now they're still not They're still

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Speaker 1: separated at points in the day for meetings and all

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Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. I mean, they're never in the

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Speaker 1: same room until game day. This is pretty good. How

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Speaker 1: how close knit this team team is and kind of

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Speaker 1: what he was talking about there at the end of

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Speaker 1: the of your conversation. Yeah, and we'll talk about wind

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Speaker 1: Garden a second. Close it out. But I I said

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Speaker 1: on a few shows, so people who listened to this

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Speaker 1: has probably heard me say it's before. But it became

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Speaker 1: clear that Doug looked at this bunch and I knew

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Speaker 1: that as a young team, it was gonna need togetherness,

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Speaker 1: a closeness, something like that. And uh, you know, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if it was the social justice conversations during

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Speaker 1: the offseason where a lot of players talked to each

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Speaker 1: other and got to know each other. Doug talked about

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Speaker 1: that a little bit. He didn't want to make that

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Speaker 1: connection because he considers the social dust just topic into

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Speaker 1: and of its own. He doesn't want to have that

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Speaker 1: use uh to be something else. But this team, I

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Speaker 1: think you told me being on the sidelines, the communication

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Speaker 1: is very, very high, the helping each other. When you

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Speaker 1: talk to these guys, you can feel it, and I

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Speaker 1: think you saw it on the field the other day.

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Speaker 1: I've thrown this out many times this week already. They

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Speaker 1: trailed four times, Dave and it it's a young team

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Speaker 1: that didn't play well early on Sunday. You trail the

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Speaker 1: entire game, it would be easy at any point to

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Speaker 1: say the same old team. They came back every time,

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Speaker 1: eventually took the lead. About the in the game, looked

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Speaker 1: like the better team. I know the stats were in

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Speaker 1: favor of the Colts, but you know, give Doug some

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Speaker 1: credit for creating that. And at least for a week,

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Speaker 1: it worked. So it's it's a it's impressive. We'll see

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Speaker 1: how far it goes. But I get back to win Guard.

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Speaker 1: I was impressed by the authenticity of what he was

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Speaker 1: saying about really doesn't care where he plays. I thought

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Speaker 1: it was fascinating here talking about special teams, because you

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Speaker 1: know it shows up for people who don't really watch practice.

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Speaker 1: When you watch Jaguars practice, I know wind Guard is

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Speaker 1: not the special team. Captain. That's Lambeau. But the players

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Speaker 1: should treat wind Guard on coverage teams like he's a captain.

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Speaker 1: They're asking him what to do. They know he knows

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Speaker 1: what to do. This guy plays the role. Usually special

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Speaker 1: teams are good when you've got a fifth or sixty

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Speaker 1: year guy who knows what he's doing and as a leader,

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Speaker 1: win Guard plays like that, Yeah he does. And uh.

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Speaker 1: A big thing about this team, and kind of more

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Speaker 1: specifically Andrew, is just the ability to communicate. I think

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Speaker 1: that's gonna take this team pretty far, is is how

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Speaker 1: well they communicate. And Andrew, obviously on on your conversation,

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Speaker 1: is obviously a great communicator. And um, I just thought,

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Speaker 1: you know, I thought overall it was just interesting just

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Speaker 1: at Wyoming, you know, for a smaller Division one school.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he was a stud and then you know,

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Speaker 1: you don't he goes to Combine, you think you're gonna

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Speaker 1: get drafted, and you know it's kind of a a

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Speaker 1: story you hear in the NFL is then you gotta

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Speaker 1: go back and reprove yourself, reprove yourself worthy of being

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. And um, that's not lost on him,

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Speaker 1: which is cool. I mean, like he said, some some

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Speaker 1: guys can come in and then all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: they're not they're not playing running back, or they're not

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Speaker 1: playing corner, they're not starting their third or fourth on

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Speaker 1: the depth chart, and you start getting down on yourself

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Speaker 1: while treat special teams as you're that's you're a starter

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Speaker 1: on special teams, you know. Um, And I think that

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Speaker 1: says a lot about his personality. Is just that uh

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Speaker 1: stitutiveness not to to to take whatever the next challenges

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Speaker 1: and and try to uh and try to power through

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Speaker 1: and make the best of it and make your mark.

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Speaker 1: And he's definitely doing that. And now he got in

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Speaker 1: this past week, he's gonna fill in for Jared Wilson,

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Speaker 1: and it will just be interesting to see how that translates.

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Speaker 1: And we had someone DJ Chart kind of had the

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Speaker 1: same process when he back in two thousand eighteen. Is

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Speaker 1: he was a heck of a special teams player and

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden nineteen he gets his chance to

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Speaker 1: start and he's in the Pro Bowl a few months later.

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Speaker 1: It's important to remember with him, UM, I think people

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Speaker 1: because they hadn't heard of him and he was undrafted,

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Speaker 1: and I'm probably guilty of it sort of assumed that

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Speaker 1: he's just a special teams guy and sort of your

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Speaker 1: fifth safety guys. He was, he was invited into combat. Athletically,

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Speaker 1: he was good enough of Wyoming and had a decent COMBA.

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Speaker 1: So athletically he's very capable. So um, let's wait and

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Speaker 1: see until we sort of write him off as a

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Speaker 1: career backup special teams guy. Yeah, this is a big

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Speaker 1: opportunity for him. And uh, he sure didn't look like

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Speaker 1: a career backup when he broke on that ball the

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Speaker 1: other day. I mean, he can joke all he once

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Speaker 1: about Philip Rivers staring the past down. I guess he

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Speaker 1: did a little bit, but he broke on the ball

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Speaker 1: and made a play and it was a big time

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Speaker 1: play at a big time moment. So um, a credit

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Speaker 1: to him for being ready because a lot of guys

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Speaker 1: are coming off the bench maybe are ready to make

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Speaker 1: that play. So uh, Dave, I think people who listened

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Speaker 1: to this, along with some other interviews with wind Guard

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Speaker 1: are gonna have a new appreciation for him. Uh. I

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Speaker 1: hope he does well. He has a chance to become

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Speaker 1: a very popular player. Um. I sure enjoyed listening to him.

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Speaker 1: As always, I appreciate you making me sound better than

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Speaker 1: I am. I appreciate Joe Fortunato making me sound much

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Speaker 1: better than I am. And uh, you know, this one

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Speaker 1: certainly didn't suck, and so far we're on a roll.

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Speaker 1: But we'll try to do better next week. Yeah,