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Speaker 2: Hey, everyone, welcome back to on Purpose, the place you

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Speaker 2: The interview went viral, It broke so many records across

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Speaker 2: Please welcome to On Purpose, Tony Robbins, Tony, it's great

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Speaker 2: to be back.

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Speaker 1: Who with this. It's quite an introduction. Jay almost embarrassed

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for leading the way and paving

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Speaker 2: be such a great torch bearer for so many, Tony,

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Speaker 2: I want to start with you. Know, with you, there's

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Speaker 1: I heard that. Some we said, I'm nineteen forty seven.

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Speaker 1: I said that, he said, but they never finished my quote.

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Speaker 1: I said, the only people out problems are in cemeteries.

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Speaker 1: So if you don't have any of you bitter, goun

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Speaker 1: on knees and pray for some. Because he said problems

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Speaker 1: are a sign of life. And when I find his problems,

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Speaker 1: call us. He said. He was sitting one time at

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Speaker 1: this dais. He was at a speaking to ass and

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Speaker 1: was like a luncheon and beside him was the heavyweight

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Speaker 1: champion of the world and he was back in the forties, right,

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Speaker 1: And he said that he looked at his name was

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Speaker 1: Jeene Tunny. He's a pretty famous guy. And he said, Gean,

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Speaker 1: how do you get muscles like that? And Jean said,

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Speaker 1: do you really want to know? You just asking? And

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Speaker 1: he said and he told me in his head, he goes,

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Speaker 1: I was thinking, I was just asking. Now I really

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Speaker 1: want to know, Because he were so intense about it,

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Speaker 1: he says, no, I really want to know. He goes

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Speaker 1: every day. I push against unbelievable resistance, and that's what

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Speaker 1: sculpts these muscles. That's how you build muscle. And he said,

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Speaker 1: I thought about a long time afterwards, and he said,

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Speaker 1: I think that's how we developed spiritually. We push against problems,

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Speaker 1: and that's what sculpts our souls. And so I think

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Speaker 1: to think you shouldn't have problems. You can call them challenges.

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Speaker 1: It feels better. But this part of life is part

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Speaker 1: of the journey, and solving them makes you bigger and

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Speaker 1: more alive, more spiritually developed, more human, more caring. You know,

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Speaker 1: pain and suffering. You don't have to suffer long, but

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Speaker 1: we're all going to experience some of it, right, But

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Speaker 1: decision making is how we get out of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And you're so right, because one of the biggest

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Speaker 2: challenges today is overthinking.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 2: Right, We're exposed to more information, or so we think.

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Speaker 2: And I was reading a study that was saying we

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Speaker 2: now consume seventy two gigabytes of data per day.

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Speaker 1: How much we have truly consumed absorb?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like face to buy it. Yeah, and you

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Speaker 2: think like, that's a lot. I remember when you were

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Speaker 2: lucky enough to get one gigabyte on your iPhone and

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Speaker 2: number talking about seventy two gigabytes coming at you.

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Speaker 3: So decision making is.

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Speaker 2: The kind of arrow that cuts through that, because that's

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Speaker 2: the only way to get out of overthinking. And so

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Speaker 2: if someone's spiraling, if they actually listened to you and said, hey,

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Speaker 2: if I just make one decision off of this, that

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Speaker 2: would actually create a shift for them.

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Speaker 1: I can tell you too. It's too long in a

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Speaker 1: conversation like this to describe in detail, but I can

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Speaker 1: give you how I make important decisions.

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Speaker 3: Please.

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Speaker 1: I have a six step process, and if people want

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Speaker 1: to jot it down, I call it oc EMR. Those

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Speaker 1: are the trigger letters for what I do, ohc EMR.

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Speaker 1: And I developed this years ago because I only had

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Speaker 1: one business. Now I'm fortunate enough I have one hundred

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Speaker 1: and fourteen companies. We do over ten billion dollars in business,

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Speaker 1: and I have no business background, all decision making learning skills,

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Speaker 1: et cetera. But way back then, when I had a

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Speaker 1: small business, these decisions were just it was tough. They

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Speaker 1: were important decisions. They felt like it were life and

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Speaker 1: death decisions. For the business, and I knew that, you

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Speaker 1: know how smart I am, you're better with a group

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Speaker 1: of people around you because even if you have more information,

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Speaker 1: they have another perspective, you know. And so I was

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Speaker 1: trying to find a decision making model, and I thought, well,

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Speaker 1: all decision making is really value clarification, like what's most

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Speaker 1: important to you? Like what you decide with someone else

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Speaker 1: side may be different, but maybe right, because it's about

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Speaker 1: what do you value most? Right? So I thought I

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Speaker 1: should start with decision making, not by all the emotion

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Speaker 1: that I may have of either anxiety or fear or

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Speaker 1: excitement or passion. Either one can lead you astray. It's like,

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Speaker 1: what do I want? What's the outcome? That's the first

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Speaker 1: Oh outcome? So I get people and by the way

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Speaker 1: I tell people, do not do this in your head.

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Speaker 1: The reason people get overwhelmed as they ask multiple questions

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Speaker 1: too fast to answer that it's like, what am I

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Speaker 1: going to do? I don't know what to do? What

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Speaker 1: if she says this? What if he did that? But

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Speaker 1: what if it doesn't do that? And you're asking twenty

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Speaker 1: questions and you don't have the processing power to answer them,

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Speaker 1: You're just going to overwhelm slow it down, one thing

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Speaker 1: at a time, right, But start not with what you're

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Speaker 1: afraid of, start with what you want, because that's how

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Speaker 1: the human nervous system is designed. It's designed to make

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Speaker 1: things happen, to create. So if you become a creator,

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Speaker 1: you start with the wom So, what are your outcomes?

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Speaker 1: And this is the reason it's hard to make decisions

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Speaker 1: for most people is they have multiple outcomes trying to

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Speaker 1: get from the same decision. Right. They want to make

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Speaker 1: everybody happy, and they want to make a million dollars

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Speaker 1: and they want to have more free time, and you know,

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Speaker 1: all simultaneously. So you have to say, which of those

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Speaker 1: things is the most important to you? Is it the

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Speaker 1: free time, is the family time? Is that they make

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Speaker 1: more money? I'm sorry, what's most important for you? Right?

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Speaker 1: So I have people write down their outcomes, and they're

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Speaker 1: usually multi if they're having a hard times because there's

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Speaker 1: multiple outcomes. And I also say, don't ever do this

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Speaker 1: in your head, because you can't manage all your head

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Speaker 1: pictures worth a thousand words. So you write down the

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Speaker 1: outcomes and then you put them in order, and then

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Speaker 1: you put the why because the why is what matters,

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Speaker 1: Like what is the reason. What's the emotion mind this?

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Speaker 1: What is it? I'm even though I say this is

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Speaker 1: what I want, what I want out of this? What's

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Speaker 1: it going to give me? It's going to give me joy.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be happiness, fulfillment, spiritual development. What is it? Right? So,

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Speaker 1: now when you're crystal clear what you want and the

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Speaker 1: order you want it in, and that's critical, what's number one?

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Speaker 1: You got to be rigorous. Now you can make decisions

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Speaker 1: by going into second h What's what are your options?

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Speaker 1: And I always tell people one option is no option.

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Speaker 1: Two options is dilemma. You need at least three choices

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Speaker 1: to be a choice, right and so, and when you

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Speaker 1: get to three, usually find this four or five. Now,

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Speaker 1: you may not like them all, but you shouldn't lie

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Speaker 1: to yourself and say this is the only option that'll

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Speaker 1: stress you out, or these two in the option you

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Speaker 1: get stuck in a dilemma. So I write out all

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Speaker 1: the options. Then I go toc is consequences, which is

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Speaker 1: what you're doing the decisions for what's the upside and

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Speaker 1: the downside of each of these decisions. To the best

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Speaker 1: of my knowledge, the upside could be this and this

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Speaker 1: now couldst be that and that I've confided the first half. Okay,

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Speaker 1: now you know what exactly you want, you know what

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Speaker 1: your options are, and you know upsides and downsides of each.

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Speaker 1: So now we're gonna go into the last three stage.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna evaluate, mitigate, and resolve e Evaluate. Now I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna evaluate what's the probability of those consequences, because you

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Speaker 1: might have something that's like, oh my god, if this happens,

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Speaker 1: the worst thing on earth, but the probability is next

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Speaker 1: to zero, and you're all stressed out. Unless you evaluate probability,

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Speaker 1: you're wasting your time. You might have some go oh

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Speaker 1: my god, if this works out, it's gonna be the

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Speaker 1: greatest thing in the history of the world, but the

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Speaker 1: likely it of happening is zero. Right, You can't let

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Speaker 1: those dreams get you. So you start to see by

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Speaker 1: evaluating what's there, and then the last two steps are fast.

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Speaker 1: It's mitigation. Mitigation means Okay, I've seen what I want,

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Speaker 1: I know my options, I know the upside there, I

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Speaker 1: know what's probable. Now could I take something from this

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Speaker 1: option and mix it with this one? Is there a

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Speaker 1: way to mitigate the downsides? And almost always there are,

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Speaker 1: and at this stage, your brain gets really creative because

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Speaker 1: it's not in fear or uncertainty or anxiety, because you're

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Speaker 1: not in your head. It's right in front of you.

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Speaker 1: And the last part is resolve. And I gave you

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Speaker 1: a million stories. It was too late to do, but

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Speaker 1: I can just tell you I've made personally four hundred

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Speaker 1: million dollars in one decision I made from this. Personally,

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to give you economic piece. What the spiritual

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Speaker 1: emotional value has been on things is priceless, and I

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Speaker 1: can honestly tell you by using the system. And I'm

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Speaker 1: writing this book right now called The Power of Decision

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Speaker 1: because I want people to have that skill, and I

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Speaker 1: show them everybody bezos decision making skills. I teach people

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Speaker 1: everybody's format, but those are my format for doing it,

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Speaker 1: and I found it to be incredibly valuable, especially when

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Speaker 1: you had resolve, you know, to it, not just a

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Speaker 1: side to the process. So I hope that's helpful for people.

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Speaker 2: That's a great system. That's the best way i've heard

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Speaker 2: it explained. I really appreciate that model because I think

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Speaker 2: too much of what decisions making is based on today

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Speaker 2: is if you really want something and you go after it,

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Speaker 2: and you organize and you have a plan, you'll get there.

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Speaker 3: And it's like you.

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Speaker 2: Didn't evaluate the probability, if you didn't look at it

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Speaker 2: from a systematic point of view, or the other side

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Speaker 2: of it is like, all right, you made a decision.

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Speaker 2: You get some good insight, get some good advice, get

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Speaker 2: some good mentorship. You pivot, you pivot. But the point

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Speaker 2: is you can save yourself so much time.

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Speaker 1: You got it by.

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Speaker 2: Doing what you just share huge amounts of time, huge

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Speaker 2: amounts of time, money, and energy. I was going to

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Speaker 2: ask you, Tony, you have such a systematic brain, like

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Speaker 2: when I've learned from you listen to you, everything is

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Speaker 2: so process oriented, which I love. But at the same time,

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Speaker 2: you have this deep faith, this deep spirituality, and you

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Speaker 2: brought it out there. You said, I'm ad four hundred

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Speaker 2: million dollars, and at the same time, the emotional and

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Speaker 2: spiritual benefits.

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Speaker 3: Prices are off the charts.

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Speaker 2: Talk to me genuinely, because I think today we all

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Speaker 2: hear about oh you can manifest this and you can

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Speaker 2: get that and this. I feel like you have a

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Speaker 2: really pragmatic and process driven approach to both. How does faith,

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Speaker 2: how does energy? How does spirituality correlate with a very systematic,

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Speaker 2: process driven approach.

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Speaker 1: That's a great question. No one's really asked me that question.

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Speaker 1: That's nice. It's a reflection of your qualities as well,

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Speaker 1: which I think you look at both sides as well

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Speaker 1: as I do. I think there's nothing more important spirits soul.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing more important than your spiritual development. Anything else

625
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Speaker 1: is a joke. And yet maybe the best I described

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Speaker 1: is think of about it as East and West, right,

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Speaker 1: we both have experiences of both. I go to Indy

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Speaker 1: at least once a year on average, and I've been

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Speaker 1: going since I was in my twenties because I was

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Speaker 1: fascinated by the cultural differences. And as a gross generalization,

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Speaker 1: the East is more about internal development. If you go

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Speaker 1: to a place like Varanasi, which is one of the

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Speaker 1: oldest cities on the planet, you know, thirty eight hundred

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Speaker 1: years old, they have fires that have been burning for

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Speaker 1: thirty eight straight years NonStop, and for people don't know it.

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Speaker 1: In that culture. You know, everyone has different perceptions of

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Speaker 1: God or belief of what God is, but in that

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Speaker 1: particular culture, it doesn't matter what kind of Hindu you are.

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Speaker 1: If there's some believe you should give up all your clothing,

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Speaker 1: everything but your clothes. Some people believe it's studying the Vedas.

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Speaker 1: Some people believe it's through yoga. Different ways to get

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Speaker 1: to God. Million different ways, and there's more than three

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Speaker 1: hundred million different gods, your own personal god in that culture, right,

644
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: very different. But they have a belief there that if

645
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: you die in Varanasi, it's the only thing I've unified,

646
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: then you don't come back because the belief is a reincarnation.

647
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: So they want to you know, not come back, which

648
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: would be nirvana, right, And they burn these fires and

649
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: when someone dies, they try to get to Varanasi no

650
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: matter what they do, because they believe that they die there,

651
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: they won't come back. And the city is filled. You've

652
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: been there, haven't you? Yeah, fill the people that are

653
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: dying and joyous. I can't remember. We went to Mother

654
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: Teresa's facility and there's a woman there that was tiny,

655
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: little lady, and she was like in her nineties and

656
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: I was talking with her. She broken English there and

657
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: she was mad as hell. She was dying. She was mad.

658
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: They scooped her off the streets and they're helping her.

659
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: She came here to die because this was her really

660
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: pissed off, right, and then most Americans have you know,

661
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: they burned the bodies. I watched him burn the bodies

662
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:31,719
Speaker 1: on this boat, and I'll never forget the first time

663
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: I did this. And I watched this little boy who's

664
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: flipping this look like stick or twig, and it was

665
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: his grandfather's leg. No one is crying, no one is sad.

666
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: They believe that the body is the t shirt. You

667
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: burn it and it goes away. So the spiritual side

668
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: life has all that is seen there and that yet

669
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: people live in squalor. You come to America and people

670
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: get stressed about they didn't get the special burger on

671
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: the sauce on their burger, right. And you see people

672
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: that live with tremendous economic opportunity who spoil it and

673
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: don't take advantage of it. And people have tremendous second

674
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: opportunity when they're not fulfilled in their relationships. They're not

675
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: who's to say they're not spiritually developed but looks on

676
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: the outside, but the way they treat people, they're not

677
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: spiritually developed. And so I don't believe you have to

678
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: pick one to the other. I believe that they go together.

679
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: I've always believe when I originally was learning, you know,

680
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: constantly listening to albums that's hold I Am, and cassette

681
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: tapes and reel the reels that's hold I Am. Eight

682
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: tracks of various professors, speakers. I was just immersing myself

683
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: in things. I noticed almost everybody specialized in either how

684
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: I can look at his philosophy or strategy. Right. Philosophy

685
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: is critical, It determines the quality of your life. It

686
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: terms whether you're happy or not happy, fulfilled or not fulfilled.

687
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: Strategy is how how do you get it done? And

688
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: strategy is critical because you could save a decade with

689
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: the right strategy in business, in your personal life with

690
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: your body the wrong strategy, and you're going to be ill, right,

691
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: And so early on I decided you need both, So

692
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: I teach both. And I don't think that's anything but intelligence.

693
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: You know to do both. So that's how I look

694
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: at it. But if you think, like what creates, you

695
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: know when you look I try to look at what

696
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: does everybody want? And we're all different, and I think

697
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: the best example I can give is that people want

698
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: an extraordinary quality of life. But that definition is different

699
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: for everybody, like some people's idea of an extraordinary life

700
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: is you know, three beautiful children and a husband or

701
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: wife that they adore. Some people's is to write poetry

702
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: or write music, or to build a farm or garden.

703
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: Some people's as a grow a business. Everyone has completely

704
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: different eyes to what that is. I don't pretend that

705
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: my life should be your life. I'm the example for you,

706
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: but I'm an example of how you can take what

707
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: you believe you want to create and make it real

708
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: by a combination and enjoy it. Because how many you

709
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: know have achieved and they want and then said is

710
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: this that all there is? Because they have the right philosophy,

711
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: or they were trying to achieve something they thought would

712
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: meet a need for significance and they missed love, you know,

713
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: the more important pieces of life. So I believe that

714
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: there's two primary skills to have an extraordiny quality life,

715
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: which I would define is life on your terms. So

716
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: the first one is the science of achievement. That's a skill.

717
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: So when I wrote my financial books and I braking

718
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: three of them, I never intended that, But after two

719
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: thousand and I was so angry because I worked with

720
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: Paul Tuder Jones, one of the top ten traders in

721
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: the history of the world, and I knew this was coming.

722
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: I try to warn people, and only few number of

723
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: people almost destroyed the world economy, right, and then we

724
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: punish them by giving them more of our money. This

725
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: is the most crazy thing. So I don't have a

726
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: lot of power, but I have the power to convene.

727
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: And so I brought together fifty of the best financial

728
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: people in the world and kind of dug into their

729
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: brains and figured out what's the common pattern. They're all different,

730
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: that it made them go from nothing financially to financially free.

731
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: And I want to show people that's still doable, because

732
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: I think most especially young people, they don't think that's possible,

733
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: and they're wrong. The systems rigged, is what everybody says.

734
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: It is rigged to some extent, but it's still totally winnable.

735
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: Life isn't always fair, but it's still magnificent, right, you

736
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: can still make it magnificent. So the skill sets, it's

737
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: like it's a science. If you do certain things, you're

738
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: gonna have too much month at the end of the money,

739
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: you're gonna have stress. If you use certain other things financially,

740
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna be free. That's a science. Your body is

741
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: a science. Every one of us is slightly different. But

742
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: there's certain patterns that if you violate them, you're gonna

743
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: have illness, you're gonna have disease. Right, that's what it is.

744
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: If you surround yourself or apply them, you're gonna have

745
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: a high level of energy, a high level of health.

746
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: That skill is the one that most human beings in

747
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: the Western world are pursuing. They want to achieve more,

748
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: and the whole focus is let's get more, and we're

749
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: a consumer culture. And so as a result, a lot

750
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: of people do that and they're still unhappy. Right. That's

751
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: because the second skill is more important and is not

752
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: promoted in on Western culture very much. And that is

753
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: the art of fulfillment. And notice that I said art,

754
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: not science, because what fulfills you and I consider you

755
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: a dear friend, and what fulfills your best friend, and

756
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: what fulfills your kids maybe really different. Even though you

757
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: love each other and you're part of the same family,

758
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: so to speak, we're all unique in that way. It's

759
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: like what does God love? Go to a forest and

760
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: take a look around. Everything's different. It's ultimate levels of

761
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 1: variety of shapes and directions. It's not supposed to be

762
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: one thing. I think that's the biggest challenge in our culture.

763
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 1: We've experienced all this, you know, this pain and these

764
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: shootings and so forth, about people who want to shoot

765
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: other people because they believe something different than them. Man,

766
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: what we've really lost it when we can't have a

767
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: conversation anymore, or we can't learn to agree to disagree,

768
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: you know, that's part of You can love somebody and

769
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: still disagree with them. I know in Congress, I have

770
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,720
Speaker 1: friends who were, you know, worked at the vice president

771
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: level and worked at the presidential level, and worked in

772
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: Congress and Senate, and they would fight, like hell, three

773
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: or four decades ago and they go have a beer together.

774
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: Now they don't even talk to each other. It's a

775
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: crazy thing. But my point is fulfillment is an art,

776
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: and fulfillment is as different as you and I are.

777
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: There are no laws to fulfillment, but there are some principles,

778
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: and one is growth. If you're going to be fulfilled,

779
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: got to grow. In fact, the whole self care mentality

780
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: we have, which I think was important. It was like

781
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: the antidote to the what they just call it the

782
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,760
Speaker 1: hustle culture, and people always stress. You know what, they're stressed.

783
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: They're hustling just to make money. There's no meaning. When

784
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: there's no mean, You're gonna work your ass off and

785
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 1: be so fulfilled if it's meaningful to you, if you're

786
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: doing it for a higher purpose than just money. I'm

787
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 1: not saying you shouldn't have money. You should. It's part

788
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: of a master skill of being alive and take care

789
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: of your family. But if that's the only thing you're

790
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: doing it for, you're going to stress out and burn out.

791
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 1: I mean, stress comes to making things more important they

792
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: really is. Failure comes to making things less important than

793
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: they really are. It's an art, right, But the fulfillment

794
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: side is finding what it is that allows you to grow,

795
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: because when you grow, you feel alive. I always tell people.

796
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 1: People ask me all the time, they say, what is

797
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 1: it that makes people happy? You travel the world and

798
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: millions of people is what's the common happiness? And I

799
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: say progress, Progress equals happiness. When you're making progress, you're

800
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: happy even when you achieve it. Like, can you think

801
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: of a goal you've achieved that you're really proud of

802
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: and then afterwards thought, is this all there? Is no,

803
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: oh good, I'm so god. But you are more purposeful.

804
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, podcast Like I think that's because that's because you

805
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:15,240
Speaker 2: know it's about progress.

806
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, no, no, I'm agreeing with you. Have you

807
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: ever had the goal where you achieved it and you're

808
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: out of your mind? Like out of your mind and good?

809
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: Like you celebratory?

810
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 3: Probably not either?

811
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: Interesting? Yeah, well, most people have had some celebrations. And

812
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: when they celebrate that, what I always ask people is

813
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: you're really celebratory. It was great, you achieved it. You're

814
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: proud of yourself. Great, And I say how long do

815
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 1: that feeling last? And I say to the last six years? No,

816
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 1: six months, six weeks, six days, six hours. Most people

817
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 1: somewhere between six days, six hours and six weeks max.

818
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: Because you know why, why does it go away? Because

819
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: we're not made just to achieve goals. We're made to grow.

820
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 1: We're made to become more because when we grow, we

821
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: make progress, we have something to give, we have more

822
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: to give. So it's like everything in the world either

823
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: grows or it dies. If your relationship's not growing, don't

824
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: be us yourself, it's dying. If your business is not growing,

825
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 1: it's dying. If you're not growing, some part of you

826
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: is dying inside. So but I found that when people

827
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: really grow, they're happy and then they want to share

828
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: and they have something worth sharing. Right, So, if you

829
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: look at somebody like Robin Williams, I mean Robin Williams,

830
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: I think was one of the gifts of our country

831
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: to the world. You know, he made people laugh all

832
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 1: over the earth. He came here to Hollywood where you

833
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: are right now, and he had almost no resources except creativity.

834
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,439
Speaker 1: And he said, I'm going to start my own TV show.

835
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: Everybody says that, nobody does it. He did it. Then

836
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: he said, okay, I want to know the storm own

837
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: TV show. I want to make it the number one

838
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: show at least five countries. He did it in nine. Right.

839
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: Then he said, I don't want to do TV anymore.

840
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: I want to make movies that's more dramatic, and he did.

841
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: Then he said, I want to win an Academy Award

842
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: for not being funny, a dramatic Academy Award, and he won.

843
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: He said, I want a family that totally loves me,

844
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: and I love me. He did it. He said, I

845
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: want to have more money than I ever spent, and

846
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: he did it. And he hung himself in his own home.

847
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: How to explain that now People say had Louis bodies

848
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: in his brain, but he had used alcohol and cocaine

849
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: and drugs his entire life, staying hyped up. He worked

850
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: to make everybody is happy except himself. So I really

851
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: believe that success without fulfillment's the ultimate failure. And you

852
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: do not have to separate them because if what you're

853
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 1: doing is designed to try and serve something more than yourself,

854
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: you're not going to be stressed. I mean, when you're

855
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: trying to serve your kids, or you're trying to serve

856
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: your community or your country. When there's something you care

857
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: about more than yourself, there's an energy that you have.

858
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 1: All suffering comes focus on the self. And I ironically

859
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: again I started to mention self care. I'm not being

860
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: derogatory towards self care because I think it's important to

861
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 1: take care yourself so he can take care of others

862
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: and take care of yourself. But it's become the new

863
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 1: it's the new hustle culture. Self care means you're doing

864
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: something directing your mind, so and spirit to become more,

865
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: not just checking out right, and so many people are

866
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 1: doing it now. And I think that's a huge reason why.

867
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw. I looked it up

868
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: the other day. I was actually brought it. I want

869
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: to make sure that the right numbers that blew my mind. Yeah,

870
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 1: Sixty one percent of gen Z has been diagnosed with

871
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: anxiety disorder, sixty one percent of a generation, fifty four

872
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 1: percent of gen Z women report diagnosed mental health conditions

873
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: by American Psychological Association. Thirty four percent of gen Z

874
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: are currently taking prescription medication, and there's been one hundred

875
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 1: and twenty nine percent increase in the trajectory use of

876
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: antidepress and among teenage girls since the pandemic. I mean,

877
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: it's like there's something wrong here. This mental health crisis

878
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: is because we think we should do less and we're

879
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: going to be happier. There was a study done right

880
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: in the middle of COVID by a woman run an

881
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 1: article in New York Times, and she took people who

882
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: are miserable and angry and sad and said, We're going

883
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 1: to do a time management course for you for nine weeks,

884
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: and I'm going to ask that you do more during

885
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: these nine weeks, and at the end of nine weeks,

886
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: just by feeling control of their lives right twenty percent

887
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:09,439
Speaker 1: increase in life satisfaction eighteen percent increase in productivity by

888
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: doing five times more than what they were doing when

889
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: they kept Because the problem with pulling back and taking

890
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: care of yourself when it's the extreme side not what

891
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: you or I would do. I know you have the

892
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: meds thing you talk about, right and turns of meditating

893
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: and eating well and diet and sleep righters that with

894
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: the ones you couldn't agree more with you on that,

895
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: But when people make it like just letting go and

896
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: doing nothing, I mean, I am found the value of that.

897
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 1: But the weaker we get, the harder it gets. It

898
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: doesn't like you don't hit a bottom and now you're okay.

899
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: You just get weaker and weaker, and now little things

900
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: are stressful. It's just like the decision making. The more

901
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: you don't make decisions, the more anxiety you have. The

902
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: more you start making decisions, the stronger you feel. You

903
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: feel like you're in control of your life. And all

904
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 1: it takes is a few good ones for you to

905
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 1: start getting momentum. So I think those two skills are

906
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: the key to great life. Master the science of achievements.

907
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: You can study how people did it get the same

908
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 1: thing with your body or your emotions, or your relationships

909
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: or your finances. But then when it comes to fulfillment,

910
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: you have to discover what will help you to grow

911
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: and what will help you to give more and what

912
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: taps you. I oh, you have. One final example is

913
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: this humorus to me. Steve Wynn is a good friend

914
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 1: of mine who built most of Las Vegas about halfway

915
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: Vegas beautiful favorite hotels, Yes, beautiful, beautiful old man and

916
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: Steve quite a philanthropist, great human being, good front of mine.

917
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: So we both have vacation homes in Sun Valley, idahoes

918
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: for the snow. And I arrived one morning and one

919
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: night the night before and I got there like two

920
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: or three in the morning, and the phone rings at

921
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: eight am, I mean, a four or five hours sleep.

922
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 1: Who could possibly be calling me this home? Right? It's

923
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 1: Steve Tony. It's my birthday. I want you to come

924
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: over today, I said, Steve. I know, but it's eight fifteen,

925
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 1: eight thirty in the morning. I just got here. He goes, listen,

926
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 1: I got this new piece of art, he said. It's unbelievable.

927
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: I've coveted this piece of art for the last thirteen years.

928
00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: He said, I outbid everybody at Aesophabes and literally they

929
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 1: delivered it late last night for my birthday. You must

930
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: come and see this painting. I was all right, Steve.

931
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: I had one question. How much should I set you back?

932
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: Eighty six point nine million dollars? Eighty seven million dollars,

933
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: So I said, Steve, screw lunch, I'm coming for breakfast.

934
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: I got to see what an eighty seven million dollar

935
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: painting looks like. And I'm picturing God crashing through the clouds,

936
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: some Renaissance image and everything else. I get there and

937
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: he takes me in the room and he goes see and

938
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: I look at it, and I understand what it is.

939
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: It's a roth Go. But it's an orange square. If

940
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: you've ever seen a roth Quot's and it's literally an

941
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: orange square, orange and red square. And I said, Steve,

942
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: they missed a few spots because this isn't filled in right.

943
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: He got a little man and I said, this is

944
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: a wroth Go. I said, I know what it is.

945
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: He goes yeah, But I said, Steve, I said, give

946
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: me one hundred dollars worth of red paint. Give me

947
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 1: a piece of paper, give me twenty minutes. I think

948
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 1: I can do this again. It stirred him up a

949
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 1: little bit. You know, he knews I was teasing him.

950
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 1: He goes, tony, you understand he committed suicide. Started telling

951
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: me the whole story of the guy. I said, well,

952
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: for suicide, it should be as blood for eighty seven

953
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,959
Speaker 1: million dollars. I mean, come on, right, But the reason

954
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: I tell this story is he can barely see, but

955
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: he can. I'm almost an orgasm looking at that because

956
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: he finds meaning in everything, like he knows what every

957
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 1: stroke means. I'm to look at icy orange square. I'm unsophisticated.

958
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: So what makes you feel fulfilled depends on what you

959
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: focus on. And you people say, why do you do that?

960
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: He should have given that money away. He's given millions

961
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: and millions and millions of hundreds of millions of dollars away.

962
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: That's just everybody's judgment. I think you should figure out

963
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 1: what it is that fulfills you, because if you don't

964
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: find fulfillment, you're going to be miserable. More stress comes

965
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 1: because you're not fulfilled. It's not because you're not achieving,

966
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 1: it's because you're not making progress on what matters to you.

967
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: It's because you feel that the effective events versus your

968
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 1: affecting events.

969
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 2: So many breakthroughs there that I just want to flag

970
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,240
Speaker 2: for people that I think are huge. The first point

971
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 2: being this breakdown of the signs of achievement and the

972
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 2: art of fulfillment. It's so important because I think today

973
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 2: what people are getting confused is that they think if

974
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,240
Speaker 2: they're more fulfilled, they'll be better at the science.

975
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,399
Speaker 3: No, and that doesn't work that when you.

976
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: Won't stay fulfilled either because their idea fulfillment is what

977
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: feels good in the moment, But what feels good in

978
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: the moment is what feels good long term. What feels

979
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 1: good long term is when you grow. Yes, then and

980
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: when you give the two things that make us feel

981
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 1: life is growing and giving yes, and you grow so

982
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: you have something to.

983
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 2: Give yes, and then saying back the other way, the

984
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 2: signs of achievement won't make you more fulfilled, which you

985
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 2: made one big breakthrough. Second one is what you just said. Now,

986
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 2: this idea that self care is promoting, this idea that

987
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 2: we all want more comfort, Yes, that we should all

988
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 2: have more comfort in life. And if we have more

989
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 2: comfort in life, then we'll be happier, and you're completely

990
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 2: kind of uprooting that and going well. Actually, the discomfort

991
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 2: makes you experience progress, which equals happiness. That's great because

992
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 2: that's the algorithm that we want to be a part of.

993
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 2: And that's the hard choice, because the hard choice is

994
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:51,439
Speaker 2: choosing the discomfort, choosing the discipline, choosing the decision that

995
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 2: may feel hard but is right.

996
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: But the one that's the hardest one is regret. Not

997
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: making the decision almost always leads to regret. If you

998
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: make a decision that's wrong, you can change it and

999
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: make another one. Even those type one decisions you know

1000
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: that Jeff Bezos talks about, most of them are still

1001
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: possible to change. This just takes a lot, so it's

1002
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 1: always possible to shift. What's what will screw your life

1003
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: up is not deciding, is living on the fence because

1004
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,399
Speaker 1: the brain does not do well with uncertainty. Right, Well,

1005
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,280
Speaker 1: that's one of the human needs is the need for certainty.

1006
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: And the fastest way to certainty is just make some

1007
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: decisions and act on them and discover what's real. So

1008
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: I appreciate your meta comments about that because I think

1009
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: I think it's really important to master both skills. I

1010
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: know so many people have achieve so much and they're

1011
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: so unfulfilled, and there's so many people that are trying

1012
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: for fulfillment and they, you know, never last. It's just

1013
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: like you got to think about it. Everything in life

1014
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: is calling us to grow. And if you want to

1015
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: know what doesn't work, the pop psychology of self care

1016
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: is not working any more than the hustle culture did.

1017
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: They're both extremes, right, Life's a balance, right, and if

1018
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: you want to see what the results are, look at

1019
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: the medication, then you know. And millennials are known as

1020
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: the our X, not the extra generation, the our X generation, right,

1021
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,879
Speaker 1: So it's like that is not solving it. To feel good,

1022
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: not feeling good because part of what gives you drive

1023
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: it either destroys you or drives you. You have to

1024
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: make those choices, and most of us will not let

1025
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: it destroy us if we don't medicate ourselves. If we don't,

1026
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: we find a way to push through. But if if

1027
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: you don't have to, people go for comfort. And comfort

1028
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: will never make you proud, comfort will make you strong.

1029
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: Comfort will not allow you to inspire your kids, or

1030
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: your community or your friends. But there's a greater thing

1031
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 1: than comfort. That comes from fulfillment by pushing through what

1032
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: And here's the other part is, like I hear the word,

1033
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,399
Speaker 1: the other pop culture element drives me crazy. Self esteem. Oh,

1034
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: I don't know any self esteem because when I was

1035
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: a child, people said these horrible things to me. And

1036
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: how convenient you only remember the horrible things they said

1037
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 1: to you, Right, they said lots of things. But the

1038
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: truth of the matter is what people said to you

1039
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: makes no means whatsoever as to whether you feel like

1040
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: you have high self esteem or not. Self esteem is

1041
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,959
Speaker 1: earned by yourself. With yourself. Someone can tell your whole

1042
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: life you're beautiful, you're gorgeous, you're so smart, and you

1043
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: can fear you're not right. I mean people like that

1044
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: all the time, right, And they have all this anxiety

1045
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: because they call they're the best in the world and

1046
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: they find out they're not. The parents over blew who

1047
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: they were at that stage. They didn't teach them to

1048
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: develop it, or to push through or develop the muscle

1049
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: that would make them the best in the world of

1050
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 1: what they do. On the other hand, you can be

1051
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: told by people you're a piece of worthless, piece of junk.

1052
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 1: You'll never be this, You're a piece of that, and

1053
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: that person can say screw you all show you I am.

1054
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: So what people have said has zero impact on your

1055
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,439
Speaker 1: self esteem, and telling people they're great or not great

1056
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: does not change it. Teaching them to have grit, teaching

1057
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: them to push through. The way you develop esteem for

1058
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: yourself as by doing difficult things that you know are right.

1059
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: When you do something and you know it's right, even

1060
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: though it's difficult, You're esteem for yourself grows and no

1061
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: one can take that way. You then take away money

1062
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: or material things. No one can take away who I've

1063
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: become as a man and my path, or you as

1064
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: a man, or anyone else as a woman. And I

1065
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: think it's really important to not if you want to

1066
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 1: feel good about yourself, it's not by relaxing, Don't get

1067
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 1: me wrong on it. I know how to relax, so

1068
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: you know, to take time. And I have beautiful family,

1069
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: have five kids and five grandkids, so I certainly have

1070
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 1: to be able to do that. And one of my

1071
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 1: kids is thanks to COVID, I have a fifty one

1072
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: year old daughter and I have a four year old daughter,

1073
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: so I have quite a spread at sixty. When I'm

1074
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: going to be sixty six, pretty soon, so I to

1075
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: give you a sense. So my life is full, but

1076
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,439
Speaker 1: it still has to have growth in it. It still

1077
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: has to have progress, and that's what makes it fulfilling.

1078
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the difference between growth and hustle? Meaning well, yes,

1079
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 2: exactly a hustle. I'm just doing it to try to

1080
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 2: make money if I'm busting my tail. But man, I

1081
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 2: know what I'm doing on you know? It is this

1082
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 2: I always people. I measure people's lives again, have to

1083
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 2: give a zero's ten score on their body, not compared

1084
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 2: to someone else, like your idea have a ten. When

1085
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 2: I was twenty, I thought washboard abs was a ten

1086
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 2: and I had them and my back hurt, you know,

1087
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 2: I mean I was out of balance right and everything

1088
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,439
Speaker 2: else to screw it up big biceps and the week

1089
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 2: in other areas. Then, so I asked people, where are

1090
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 2: zier to ten in your life today? Based on what

1091
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 2: you want for your life? Is it energy?

1092
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: What it is? Where user to ten in the level

1093
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 1: of me an emotion? Because if you don't measure something,

1094
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 1: you can't manage it. I'm give it zero to ten

1095
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: and a little description. Give me zero to ten where

1096
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: you are in your relationships and the most important one

1097
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: your intimate relationships, because friendships are easy, right, you know,

1098
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: where's that? And if you don't have one, that's zero

1099
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: and you want to see that. So it pushes you

1100
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 1: right where are you in? You know your And this

1101
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: is the one that led me to it is your

1102
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: work or is it for you career? Or is it

1103
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 1: you know, a calling or a mission? And I already

1104
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: know who people are based on which word they pick.

1105
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: If it's work, it's work. If it's a career, they

1106
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: work at it and they pretty fulfill that. But if

1107
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,760
Speaker 1: it's mission, like I know you and I are both called,

1108
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: I don't have to do this another day of my life.

1109
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: I do it because it's my mission, it's my purpose.

1110
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: I believe it's what I'm made for. There is no

1111
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: amount of work that can wear you down when it's

1112
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: mission zero. And if you haven't found that, I caution

1113
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: against one other thing. If I may love, you've stirred

1114
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: me up with some different questions. Yeah, it's good. I

1115
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 1: think it's important to understand a lot of people are

1116
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: trying to find their purpose. What's my purpose? What's this

1117
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: big purpose? Who said you had one? Who said you

1118
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 1: had one? For a lifetime. If you write down a

1119
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: purpose statement as long mission statement, it sounds real good

1120
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: and you read it, it's never going to cover all

1121
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: of who you are a way for you know, I

1122
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:19,760
Speaker 1: have a different purpose when I'm sitting down with my daughter,

1123
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: my youngest daughter, than I am with my oldest I

1124
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: have a different sense of purpose and what I'm doing,

1125
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: and this business is for that. I have a different

1126
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: purpose in our conversation today. Purpose that is what gives

1127
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 1: life meaning. But you don't have to have one giant

1128
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: purpose that you're struggling to find. Life will evolve. And

1129
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: if you just keep moving forward in a purposeful manner,

1130
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 1: like whatever you do there's some meaning to it, then

1131
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 1: I think you're going to find you are much more fulfilled.

1132
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: And those measurements, by the way, I would do them

1133
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 1: on your finances, and I do it them on the

1134
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 1: spiritual side of life, not religious, but like religio means celebration.

1135
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: Most people in religion don't have a lot of celebration anymore, right,

1136
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 1: just a bunch of rules. So it's like, okay, I

1137
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: divide it is between how much are you celebrating life?

1138
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: Because isn't this an unbelievable gift that we're sitting here

1139
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 1: reaving this heart's beating. We don't have to work at it,

1140
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: that we're the skin's working, That we can have a conversation,

1141
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 1: that we can feel, that we live, that we can

1142
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 1: have our children. That's a miracle. We forget what a

1143
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 1: miracle does, just to be alive. Right, So are you

1144
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: celebrating and then are you contributing? Because celebration without contribution

1145
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,320
Speaker 1: doesn't last, you know, And so I say, measure those things.

1146
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: But to answer your question specifically, I think it's critical

1147
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: that you understand stress comes from having activity without purpose.

1148
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: Is the drain on your emotional well being?

1149
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's and that's what we're struggling with. That

1150
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 3: makes sense.

1151
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just mentioned that you have a child who's

1152
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 2: fifty one years old.

1153
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 3: One that's four and a half.

1154
00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: I don't I want to call her a child. Now

1155
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: you would appreciate that, Yeah.

1156
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have a daughter. You have a daughter.

1157
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 2: So, yeah, you said you have a daughter who's fifty

1158
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 2: one years old, and you probably still see as a

1159
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 2: child in some ways.

1160
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 3: I assume I don't know.

1161
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 2: My mom, Mom's always my mom can't stop seeing me

1162
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 2: as a child. But yes, you have a daughter who's

1163
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 2: fifty one years old. You have a daughter who's four

1164
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 2: and a half years old. Talk to me about what

1165
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 2: being a dad at that age was like and in

1166
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 2: your twenties. Yes, to what being a dad in your

1167
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 2: sixties looks like like? What is what's different? What are

1168
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 2: the different challenges, what are the different lessons?

1169
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 1: It's my favorite stage of life is the stage of life.

1170
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: I would say that first for everyone listening. You know,

1171
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: I look at life and seasons. You know, it's like,

1172
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: I'm a big believer that the three skills we need

1173
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: to teach our kids or ourselves, especially in a world

1174
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: that the next five to ten years will have more

1175
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: change than any time in human history. Between nanotechnology and

1176
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 1: AI and you know, robotics and everything else. The world

1177
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: is going to change like never before. So how do

1178
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 1: you have an advantage there? You have to master three skills.

1179
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 1: Have to matter, pattern recognition, so that you're not fearful.

1180
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: A lot of fears because you think this is the

1181
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: only time that has happened politically, Oh well, never been

1182
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: this way. It's bullshit. I can show you stuff that

1183
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: makes Republicans and Democrats look nice to each other from

1184
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 1: the past. You know when you recognize a pattern, you go, Okay,

1185
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: this has happened before, and seasons are one of those patterns, right,

1186
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: and then you're not fearful. And then the second part

1187
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: it's not random. The second skill is mastering really pattern utilization.

1188
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 1: That's what gives you power in your life. Because now

1189
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 1: a baby can't get out of this room until they

1190
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 1: recognize almost all rooms have an exit and if I

1191
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: look around there, it's shaped a certain way and there's

1192
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 1: a handle that if a push pollar, I can get

1193
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 1: out of here. If you don't, you're trapped. So powdered

1194
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 1: recognition is power at a little level, get out of

1195
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 1: the room. At a big level, if you look at

1196
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 1: somebody that's great in business, like how do I have

1197
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 1: all these companies? I couldn't even run one company but

1198
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 1: five employees. I was trying to do a million dollars

1199
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: in business sie it wasn't hitting it, and I was

1200
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,479
Speaker 1: stressed out of my mind to now have one hundred

1201
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: and fourteen companies doing ten billion. The difference is pattern recognition.

1202
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 1: It's like understanding and then learning how to use those

1203
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: patterns in those situations. So if you're good in business,

1204
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: there's certain patterns. If you're good at investing, there's certain patterns.

1205
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: If you've got good mental health, there's certain patterns. You know,

1206
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: if you're physically well, there's certain patterns. If you know

1207
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: somebody's a good dancer, they recognize how to use patterns

1208
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 1: to produce a specific result. Spielberg has made movies for

1209
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: forty years. He knows if I'm moving slowly like this.

1210
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: He knows if I go fast, what will happen if

1211
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,760
Speaker 1: I pull back? If I bring the music up here.

1212
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: So anyone you know that you probably respect and like

1213
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,800
Speaker 1: Don's just recognized patterns. They got great at using them.

1214
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: But the third level for me is pattern you know

1215
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 1: were a creation? Well you really. It's like if you've

1216
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: played music, you did it usually by playing someone else's music,

1217
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 1: Big Beethovenbak, whoever. You did. You live someone else's patterns,

1218
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: and you did that long enough you could use it,

1219
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 1: and then one day you start to come through. You

1220
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 1: start to become a creator. Right, we stand on the

1221
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: shoulders of the people before us. And so those three

1222
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: skills are how you can compete or do well. And

1223
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 1: I want that for my fifty one year old, and

1224
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 1: I want my four year old having said that, you

1225
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: don't recognize as many patterns when you're twenty five. That's

1226
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 1: your question, right, And I'm proud of the father I was.

1227
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 1: I mean, I got married with my first marriage to

1228
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: a woman that was twelve years my senior, and she'd

1229
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,760
Speaker 1: been married twice before me. She had kids from both husbands,

1230
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: and she moved in with me, and she was so unhappy,

1231
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,800
Speaker 1: and I was like, bring them here, and I adopted

1232
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: all those kids. So, if you can imagine, I was

1233
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: twenty four, just turning twenty five years old, I had

1234
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,720
Speaker 1: a seventeen year old son and eleven year old daughter,

1235
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 1: a five year old and then shortly after a blood

1236
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: child of my own coming on board. And so I

1237
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: was out to change the world and I had to

1238
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 1: learn how to manage my life and who I was.

1239
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,399
Speaker 1: And these kids. I fell totally in love with them,

1240
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 1: and the joy of my life today. And that marriage

1241
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 1: lasted fourteen years, and when they grew up, I really

1242
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:50,879
Speaker 1: I was there for the kids, honestly, more than anything else.

1243
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 1: We weren't the right match for each other. We're still

1244
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 1: good friends, and I'm mar and my wife now, who

1245
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 1: I've been together twenty five years. The greatest gift of

1246
00:55:56,400 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 1: my life. But my wife didn't think we could have kids,

1247
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 1: and the doctor told a point blank we couldn't. So

1248
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 1: we end up doing it with a surrogate and it

1249
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: was COVID, and I'm normally going on road two undred

1250
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: and twenty five days in a year, two hundred days

1251
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: in a year. With COVID, they shut down every arena

1252
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,280
Speaker 1: in the world, and we went from doing fifteen thousand

1253
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 1: people to them saying I could put one hundred people

1254
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,359
Speaker 1: in the arena. So we pivoted and I'm started doing

1255
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 1: digital seminars. We did the biggest ones in the world,

1256
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: one point three million people for three days, you know,

1257
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 1: and really made it an experience. It was amazing. So

1258
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 1: there was time so we got our daughter. But the

1259
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 1: answer question specifically, I think in my twenties and thirties,

1260
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: I was still trying to figure out completely who I was,

1261
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 1: and all I knew is I want these kids to

1262
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: be loved. I want them to know that they're not

1263
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 1: here to demand from life. Life is expecting something from you,

1264
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: and that if you're here to be a contributor, you'll

1265
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: always be happy. And I really accomplished that. I'm proud

1266
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: of all my kids are all contributors. They're all contribute time, energy, money,

1267
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 1: resources to help people who are not as well off

1268
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:58,439
Speaker 1: as they are. They're all great parents, and they're all

1269
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: just good people. But with my daughter today, it's you know,

1270
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 1: A had her at sixty one, so certainly not what

1271
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: I plan for. It brought more joy to mean anything else,

1272
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 1: because you know so much more, You have so much

1273
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 1: more wisdom to share. You have more time to just

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00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 1: experience things versus when you're running trying to make it

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00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 1: all happen. And I think someone like yourself at thirty eight,

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00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 1: and we talked off the air here that at some

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00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: point you'll probably have children. I think in that thirty eight,

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00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 1: thirty nine, and forty you have more wisdom to because

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00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: you're still you know who you are now to a

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00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 1: great extent. You'll continue to evolved, continue especially you. I'm

1281
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 1: continuing to evolve, right, But I think there's just more

1282
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: to give at that stage. But I also would tell

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Speaker 1: anybody that I wouldn't if someone would told me. If

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00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: you think of zero to twenty one as being a

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00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: pattern of seasons, like when I say pattern recognition, the

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00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: pattern that has changed humanity the most. The first recognized

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00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 1: pattern that we changed and started to use with seasons.

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00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: Until then we were one hunter gatherers and starving to

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00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: death unless we could find the right food. Total stress,

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00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 1: way more stress than we have today. Right, But then

1291
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: what happened We realized, Wow, there are these seasons and

1292
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 1: if I plant in the spring, I protect it during

1293
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: the summer, I get to reap in the fall, have

1294
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 1: enough four winter, I can do the whole thing again. Well,

1295
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 1: if you do the right thing at the wrong time,

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00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: you get nothing. It doesn't matter how hard you work.

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00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: So I'm a big believer in looking at what season

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00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 1: you are in your life. Great, what season you are

1299
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 1: in history? Right? What season I'm in with my family,

1300
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 1: And so I think a zero twenty one is springtime.

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00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 1: Everything grows in springtime. It's easy growthing springtime. If you

1302
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 1: start a business in springtime, you think you're a genius.

1303
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 1: You're a genius. You're just in the right season. Right.

1304
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: But then summer comes and things are tested, and God

1305
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 1: or the universe, whatever you want to call it, has

1306
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 1: made it so we have an easy time and then

1307
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: we have a tough time to test this to make

1308
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:45,919
Speaker 1: us grout an easy time of rewards and a tough time,

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00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 1: so summer. Think of it as like twenty two to

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00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: forty two, roughly zero to twenty one, you're taking care

1311
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:54,439
Speaker 1: of I had a childhood that was a little tough,

1312
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 1: but I was thirteen or fourteen. I had to work

1313
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: to sport the family. But I still I didn't have

1314
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 1: to make all the money for the food. Someone else

1315
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 1: housing me. Someone else has taken care of me. At

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00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 1: that stage of life, you're taking in information twenty two

1317
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 1: to forty two. Now you go test it right now,

1318
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 1: you go say, well, I was toddled to stuff for

1319
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 1: little I believe you know. And in the early stages

1320
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 1: of that season, you think you're invincible. You think you're

1321
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: going to be a multi billionaire president United States and

1322
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: have one hundred relationships simultaneously and everyone will be happy.

1323
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 1: And by the time you're thirty two or three or

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00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 1: something like that, you start going, I'm not a billionaire,

1325
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 1: I'm not the present United States, and I can't even

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00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 1: one person happy in the relationship. What the hell is

1327
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: going on here? And that's usually when people start to

1328
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 1: look out for people like you and I who are

1329
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 1: looking for some wisdom about how to live life in

1330
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: a way that's happy and fulfilling and growing and expanding

1331
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 1: because they know they're not invincible. That stage, if you're listening,

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Speaker 1: if you're in that twenty two to forty two, it

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Speaker 1: is the most painful stage across all studies, most unhappy stage.

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Speaker 1: If you're happy right now, that is awesome, and anyone

1335
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 1: can be, but most aren't fully happy at that stage.

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Speaker 1: It's the most trying stage. It's the testing time. And

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00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 1: if you didn't grow during spring and take care of

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01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:02,439
Speaker 1: us soil summer, then you won't reap in the fall.

1339
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: You're going to weep. But if you grew in both

1340
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Speaker 1: those stages, now you go to the third stage. That's

1341
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 1: you know, basically forty three to sixty three, And both

1342
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 1: these numbers are round right. Some people are early, some

1343
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 1: people are late. But in that stage of life, you've

1344
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: accumulated enough skill and knowledge. If you've grown, you know

1345
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 1: the people. I'm sure you're already experiencing it now. Like

1346
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 1: I was in Greece and I got stuck. I'm fortunate

1347
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 1: enough to have a private plane and I'm supposed to

1348
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 1: fly to Germany, and I want to drop my family

1349
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 1: in Italy so I can have a good time and

1350
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 1: they you know, we had a two weeks in advance.

1351
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 1: They told us what the times to be, and then

1352
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 1: they changed the times in said I couldn't get out

1353
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 1: til after my seminar started with thirteen thousand people in

1354
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Speaker 1: fifty four countries, right, and I'm like and they were

1355
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 1: removable and so like, okay, my only option is find

1356
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Speaker 1: some other way to get to Athens and fly it

1357
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 1: somewhere else. And it's like, no, you know, at this

1358
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 1: stage of my life, there are very many people in

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Speaker 1: the planet who do I know that knows, you know,

1360
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:56,479
Speaker 1: the Prime Minister of Greece, so last Jot GBD, Tony

1361
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 1: Robin as soon as he knows it. It gave me

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01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 1: a list like Mark many off of Salesforce and my

1363
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 1: dearest friends, the human Freadors. Peter Daman is one of

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01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 1: my partners in business. He's you know, he's from Greece

1365
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 1: and he knows. And with the whole list, there's like

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Speaker 1: nine of them. So I called three of them, and

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Speaker 1: you know, the poor Prime Minister. I got about nine

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01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 1: calls and next thing I know, no problem. They moved

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Speaker 1: the time and everything else. There is a stage of

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Speaker 1: life that if you've done your job and a contribute

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01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 1: enough to society that you know most of the players,

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Speaker 1: or you know most of the people in the industry,

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01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 1: and you have you've got relationships that are twenty years

1374
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 1: long or maybe thirty years long, and the talent pool

1375
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 1: is not lasting. There's only so many people that keep growing,

1376
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 1: and so you usually know those people and have a

1377
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 1: role in that. So that stage is where most people have.

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01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 1: That stage that we can think of as autumn as

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01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 1: the falls, the reward stage. That's when most people earn

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01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 1: the most. That's when most people tend to grow the most.

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01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 1: That's when you start to really become a leader in

1382
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 1: that stage obviously can happen earlier. And then sixty four

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01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 1: to eighty four to one hundred and four to one

1384
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty four, which is the oldest living humans,

1385
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 1: is the winter stage, which is there's a gradual a

1386
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 1: client in the body no matter what you do at

1387
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 1: some stage, and you have to make sure you keep

1388
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 1: your mental facilities up. But it's also the most magnificent

1389
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 1: stage because you can make not only a phone call

1390
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 1: to get your plane out, but you are able you

1391
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 1: have thirty I have forty year relationships. Now I've got

1392
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 1: five kids, and five brand kids. You know, I've got

1393
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 1: people that I love with my soul that I would

1394
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 1: do anything more, do anything for me. I don't know

1395
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 1: many things in the life. I feel closer to God

1396
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 1: in the universe than I've ever felt in my life.

1397
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 1: I feel like my life is such a blessing. If

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01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 1: my life ended tomorrow, would be the most blessed man

1399
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 1: on earth. I like to continue contributing, but that's not it.

1400
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 1: That's not in my hands. Whenever I go, it will

1401
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 1: be the right time. So it's just like I want

1402
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 1: people to know, and all the studies, by the way,

1403
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 1: show if you stay healthy, this stage I'm talking about

1404
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 1: is the most fulfilling stage. And it's a stage where

1405
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 1: you get to become, you know, an elder statesman, and

1406
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 1: you're not trying to prove to somebody who the hell

1407
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 1: you are. You know, you don't play the social media game.

1408
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 1: You know who the hell you are. If people know

1409
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 1: you like people know you're a good person. But if

1410
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 1: they don't, you don't really care, right, you just go

1411
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 1: deliver what you're here to deliver and do what you're

1412
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: going to do. So those stages of life I think

1413
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 1: are useful because we're all different, but there's a racetrack

1414
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 1: to life, and you're not there yet, but there's a

1415
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 1: stage in your life when your brain will go there

1416
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 1: may be more days behind me than ahead of me.

1417
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 1: That's usually midlife, whatever age that is in people's heads.

1418
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 1: It's different for everybody, and there's a beauty. There's a

1419
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:31,959
Speaker 1: massive increase of the beauty of life. When you begin

1420
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 1: to realize it's a limited racetrack. You value every moment,

1421
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 1: every relationship, every experience you have even more. And I'm

1422
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 1: at a stage of life where I have so many

1423
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 1: friends that are twenty years my senior. I have a

1424
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 1: lot of friends in their eighties and friends my ages

1425
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 1: that have passed away just in recent years. And it

1426
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 1: just reminds you that it's a limited racetrack. But I

1427
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 1: think that's valuable. I remember I read a Ray Kurzwell

1428
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 1: sent me one time. Ray Kurswell is a brilliant futurist,

1429
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 1: one of the smartest in the world right and one

1430
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 1: day he sent me this little story he goes try

1431
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 1: and I think that you appreciate this. It was a

1432
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 1: write up about a story from a TV show that

1433
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 1: was done years ago, and in the TV show which

1434
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 1: has a little twist. It's about a man who is

1435
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 1: a gambler and he goes to heaven. In his diety

1436
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 1: of heaven is staying at the Wynn Hotel in the

1437
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 1: Presidential Suite, right or the Encore, the Presidential Suite, and

1438
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 1: he wakes up in heaven. He wakes up at the

1439
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 1: top of the encore and he opens his closet. There's

1440
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 1: all these suits and outfits, and he opens the drawers

1441
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 1: and there's cash, and there's jewelry and watches and all

1442
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 1: these things. And he goes downstairs and every woman notices him,

1443
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 1: and he goes and he's blackjack. You win twenty one,

1444
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 1: you win, you win, you know, And all of a

1445
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 1: sudden he's playing craps. You win, you win, you win,

1446
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 1: and he's like lit up like a Christmas tree. And

1447
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 1: he goes home that night with more than one person

1448
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 1: and he thinks it's the greatest experience of his life.

1449
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 1: And he wakes up the next day and does the

1450
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 1: whole thing again, and the next day and does the

1451
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 1: whole thing again. The next day, does the whole thing again.

1452
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 1: After threehe this he's sitting at the table, he's playing blackjack,

1453
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 1: and goes twenty one. You win, He goes, of course

1454
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 1: they win. I always win. He's getting angry. He goes,

1455
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 1: there's something wrong here. He goes, I want to speak

1456
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 1: to the head angel. There's something wrong here. And so

1457
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 1: the head angel comes over. He looks like gy Lombardi

1458
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 1: in this tuxedo and says, can I help you, sir?

1459
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 1: He says yes, He goes, I win every single time.

1460
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 1: He goes, there's a mistake here. I don't belong in heaven.

1461
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 1: I'm not the kind of guy that should be in heaven.

1462
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 1: And the angel looks at him and said, who said

1463
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 1: you're in heaven? If we always got everything we wanted,

1464
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 1: if time was unlimited, would you value life as much?

1465
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 1: So I'm here to make sure we make every moment

1466
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 1: matter with meaning and with love. It's beautiful.

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Speaker 3: I love that story, Love that story.

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01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 2: And I mean, you've dedicated so much to this and

1469
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 2: you keep doing it. Time to Rise Summit. Time to

1470
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 2: Rise is coming up at the end of this month. Yes,

1471
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 2: and it's another opportunity for people to get better at

1472
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 2: making decisions, to decide, to commit to act, to resolve,

1473
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 2: to have that energy. Everything we've been talking about today.

1474
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 1: Plus there's something about the calendar. That's so funny. It's

1475
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 1: totally arbitrary. But in New Year is like a new life.

1476
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 1: It's like a fresh start, and we all need a

1477
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,440
Speaker 1: fresh start. But the problem is most people set a

1478
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 1: bunch of New Year's resolutions and you know, ninety percent

1479
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 1: they don't fall through on them. So this is about, hey,

1480
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 1: let's figure out what you really want, what's getting the way,

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Speaker 1: what's the plan. It's only three hours a day, so

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Speaker 1: think of it like a great movie, only you're in

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Speaker 1: it and you're actually changing your life three days in

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Speaker 1: a row. So it's January twenty nine through the thirty first,

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Speaker 1: and you can go. You can attend from anywhere on Earth.

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Speaker 1: We had one point three million people last year, ten

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Speaker 1: from one hundred and ninety three countries, every country on

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Speaker 1: Earth that exists at least that the UN recognizes. And

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Speaker 1: it's an experience I probaished, we'll forget. Plus there's a

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Speaker 1: community of people and there's zero charge. It's not like

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Speaker 1: partial pay or there's zero charge. Once a year. I

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Speaker 1: do this just to give back to people all over

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Speaker 1: the Earth, and it's really really dynamic, and people create

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Speaker 1: incredible changes and they share them with the community on Facebook.

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Speaker 1: I look forward to it every year, so I hope

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Speaker 1: people will join us. And then the other thing, I

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Speaker 1: hope you'll join me for that because it's an immersion

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Speaker 1: and it's the beginning of the year and you set

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Speaker 1: yourself up to win and meet some great people. But

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Speaker 1: then also I've actually now created with partnership with Paramount,

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Speaker 1: where I'm doing the Tony Robins Network, which we've just launched,

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01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 1: and it will be all over the world. They're going

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01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 1: to actually translate it in every language. We'll I've use AI,

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01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 1: so I'll be speaking with my own voice in there.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing technology we have today, but it's literally twenty

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01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 1: four to seven channel of nothing. But we've got, you know,

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01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 1: dozens of programs we develop on how to improve your body,

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01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 1: your emotions, your relationships, your finances, and there's no charge

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Speaker 1: for it at all, so anybody can dip in and

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Speaker 1: have an experience there as well.

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Speaker 3: Wow, that's fantastic.

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Speaker 2: I Mean, what I love about Time to Rise is

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01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 2: that that few days, those two to three vers that

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01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 2: people will spend with you, it will create a shift.

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01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:49,439
Speaker 2: There's no quest because we all need those moments where

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01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 2: we just immerse where we get absorbed, we get focused

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01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 2: because some of us maybe we'll do ten minutes of

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01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 2: thinking about our life here and thirty minutes over there,

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01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 2: and maybe you'll spend an hour if you're lucky. But

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01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 2: to have three days of three hours each, yes, it's colossal.

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Speaker 2: What could happen in your life?

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Speaker 1: And I really believe in immersion. The reason I do

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01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 1: live events and they're usually twelve hours a day to

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01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 1: give you an idea, and people won't set for a

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01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 1: three hour movie. You We'll go twelve hours and say

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01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 1: the greatest experience in my life is immersion is the

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01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 1: way to learn. Like if you're going to learn a language,

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01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:17,639
Speaker 1: and you learn a little bit at a time, most

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01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 1: people have learned in high school, college, they don't speak

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01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 1: the language years later. But if I dropped you in

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01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 1: Rome for ninety days with no teacher and I pick

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01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 1: you up, you're going to be speaking because you're seeing it, feeling,

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Speaker 1: experiencing it. So three hours isn't quite that level immersion,

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01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:31,719
Speaker 1: but it's enough to really create momentum, make some real choices,

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Speaker 1: and really change your life for the better. And it

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Speaker 1: being my privilege to serve anyone who wants to join

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01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:36,639
Speaker 1: us and again, there's no charge for it.

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Speaker 2: Last question, Tony before we end you you mentioned there

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01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 2: that and you've talked about in your seminars. I've seen

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01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:45,719
Speaker 2: you talk about it, your relationship with God the universe. Yes,

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Speaker 2: And I wanted to ask you about that because I

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01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:50,680
Speaker 2: think we often refer to a relationship with God a

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01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 2: relationship with the universe. What does a relationship with God

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Speaker 2: and the universe look like? How does one nurture that?

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01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 1: Does that? More of what it feels like to me

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01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 1: than what it looks like. It feels like I feel

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01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 1: like I've been guided in my life because I've asked

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01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:05,760
Speaker 1: for guidance, and I believe I've been created. I think

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01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 1: we're all created for different purposes. And my own personal belief,

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01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 1: which may be wrong, is that I'm here to make

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01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:15,759
Speaker 1: things better. I mean, I wear the facility baseball caps

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01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:18,599
Speaker 1: all the time just for fun. But if you read

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01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:20,439
Speaker 1: them on the side, it says be a blessing and

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01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:22,679
Speaker 1: you'll be blessed is what it says underneath. And that's

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01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 1: my whole philosophy of life. Be a blessing. And I

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01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 1: think I know one of my sons, Josh, I remember

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Speaker 1: when he became a Christian of a Christian faith personally,

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Speaker 1: but I'm quite broad in my approach. I'm not restrictive

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Speaker 1: of my thinking, and I don't believe VeryE should be

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Speaker 1: what I believe to believe. In other words, if you

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Speaker 1: have a spiritual belief, I help you follow it, because

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Speaker 1: whatever it is, if you don't follow it, you're probably

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01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 1: not gonna be happy. And I'm not a proselytator of

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01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 1: people to have to be or think a certain way.

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01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:49,240
Speaker 1: But I remember my son. He became Christian, and when people,

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01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 1: you know, find God in whatever way they find it,

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01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 1: they often think no one else has that it's only

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01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 1: their way, you know. And he became very, very rules

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01:09:57,160 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 1: driven about this is how it is and that's how

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01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:01,799
Speaker 1: it is. I was quite concerned, but rather than trying

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01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 1: to push him to be a certain way, I told

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Speaker 1: my wife Sage. I said, honey, we were in Fiji,

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01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 1: and I said, you know, I've got a few days.

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01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 1: I said, I'm going to go on a fast for

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01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 1: the next four days, maybe five, four or five days,

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01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 1: just drink juice, and I'm gonna read the whole Bible

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Speaker 1: from cover to cover. And I said, because I've never

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01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 1: read it that way, I've never done total immersion like

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01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 1: I talked about. And I read the whole Bible and

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01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:27,360
Speaker 1: literally about eighteen hours a day, and I was struck

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01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 1: at the end by an overall pattern. So I went

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01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 1: to my son. He's been very devout and very right, wrong, good, bad,

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01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 1: And anytime you make things extreme, I think it creates problems, right,

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01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 1: And I didn't try and make them wrong in the way.

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01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 1: And I said, God's this, and God means ass and this,

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Speaker 1: this is what Christ did and this is how it is.

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Speaker 1: And I said, okay, Josh, I said, just I have

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Speaker 1: one question for you. I said, I just read the

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Speaker 1: entire Bible from cover to cover, and his jaw dropped open.

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01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 1: I said, I'm dead serious, and sages of the major

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01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 1: goes he did it. I said, one thing that comes

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Speaker 1: out of me. I read the Old Testament and God

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01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 1: seems like a selfish bastard who's mean and vindictive. And

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01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 1: I read the New Testament and God seems incredibly loving

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01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:12,559
Speaker 1: and supportive of all. So I said, if that's true,

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Speaker 1: does God grow? And there's this long pause. He felt

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01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:19,679
Speaker 1: like he was being trapped, you know, like you're trying

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01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 1: to trap me. And I said, I'm not trying to

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Speaker 1: trap you. I'm asking an honest question. I mean, everything

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01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 1: universe either grows or dies. So does God grow? If

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01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 1: the Bible is a real reflection of God. And there

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01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:32,480
Speaker 1: are many other books that are reflection of being inspired

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01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 1: by the divine, but let's say that's the book. Does

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01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 1: God grow? Because it sure looks like it in the book,

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01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:42,120
Speaker 1: you know, and if that's true. Only the reason I'm

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01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 1: bringing that up is, I know what you're fearing is

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01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 1: that you can't have absolute certainty about how things are,

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01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 1: which is what everybody wants, but you could have faith.

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01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 1: And I said, he goes, well, God knows everything. God

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01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:54,600
Speaker 1: knows what you're gonna do before you're can do how

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01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 1: it's going to be. And he gave me this rattle

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01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 1: and I said, okay, I believe all that, But the

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01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 1: question is does God grow? And he couldn't give me

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01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 1: an answer either way because he felt like he was

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01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 1: being trapped in it. But eventually he loosened up and

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01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 1: I could say today is much more balanced, you know,

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01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 1: in that Area's not trying to make everybody else believe

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01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:12,639
Speaker 1: that he believes. But I think I think the universe grows.

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01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 1: I think God grows and I think it's our job

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01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 1: to grow. And I think that when I look at

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01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 1: the spiritual side of life, the relationship I have is

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01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 1: one that's more emotional than visual. I feel like when

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01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 1: I get up to serve, God comes through me. When

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01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 1: God when I stand When someone stands up and I say,

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01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 1: it's a date with destiny, You've been a date with destiny.

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01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 1: You never know who's gonna stand up. They could say,

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01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 1: you know, I'm suicidal, or they could say, you know,

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01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 1: I'm considered killing myself and my five kids. I mean,

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01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 1: I've had that come up. I could say I've made

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01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 1: four hudred million dollars and I'm depressed, and people want

1631
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:45,719
Speaker 1: to slap them because you never know what somebody's gonna say.

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01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 1: But the minute they stand up inside me, it's already done.

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01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 1: Not because I'm so smart, because I know they stood

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01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 1: up in this moment. I believe because this is all

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01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 1: by design and the right answers will come through me,

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01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 1: and they do. I mean, I've never lost the suicide

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01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 1: Knock on wood in you know, forty eight years, and

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01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:05,080
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure people have seen. Some people may

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01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 1: have seen I'm not your Guru on Netflix. It's a piece,

1640
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 1: but you see it in You see people six years later,

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01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 1: like the woman that was there, that was suicidal, that

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01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:13,800
Speaker 1: was in that cult where they made you have sex

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01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 1: with the adults, and she's got out. She's now a psychologist.

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01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 1: She's rescued all these other kids. She doesn't have an

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01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 1: ounce of depression or suicidal thoughts. You know, Stanford did

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01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 1: a study that shows that. So I guess what I'm

1647
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 1: trying to say is that the spiritual side of life

1648
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 1: is critical. But when I said to my son, is this,

1649
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:34,360
Speaker 1: I said, I want everyone's relationship to be God if

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01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 1: I had a choice, which I don't. But if I

1651
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 1: had a choice, it should be as unique as your signature.

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01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 1: Why should everybody copying everybody else. You should have an

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01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 1: individual relationship with God. So I said, I really appreciate

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01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 1: if you read the Bible, or you read any great

1655
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 1: spiritual book a personal Christian. But read any of them

1656
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 1: and let God speak to you. Don't just take it

1657
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:54,679
Speaker 1: from another man or woman standing on a stage telling

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01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:56,799
Speaker 1: you what to believe. I would help believe my events.

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01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:58,639
Speaker 1: I'm not here to tell you how to be. Who

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01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 1: the hell would I be to do that. I'm not

1661
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:02,840
Speaker 1: sharing with you insights and tools and strategies that can

1662
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:04,680
Speaker 1: help you guide yourself to whoever you want to be,

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01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 1: and hopefully to ask you who do you want to

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01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 1: be in this lifetime? Because in the end, what you

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01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 1: get is not going to make you happy. Who are

1666
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 1: you going to become that's going to make you happy

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01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:16,240
Speaker 1: or sad? So I think it's an individual decision, and

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01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 1: I think it evolves for people over time. But I

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01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 1: think it's one of the most important things because for

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01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 1: those who believe there's nothing, you know, nihilistic but this

1671
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 1: moment or this body, I think that's a big mistake.

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01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:31,799
Speaker 1: It's like saying Whibster's Dictionary as results of an explosion

1673
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 1: a print factory, it all came together perfectly in balance.

1674
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 1: I just don't buy that, even logically. And I think

1675
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 1: you're missing out on life if you don't think there's

1676
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 1: something more than you and also something more to serve

1677
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 1: than you. And that gives me personally a great sense

1678
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:44,559
Speaker 1: of meaning.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Tony, thank you for your work, your tools, your insights,

1680
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:48,479
Speaker 2: your life.

1681
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 3: Appreciate service. Thank you for your time and energy today.

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01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 1: Thank you for all that you do. I appreciate it

1683
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 1: so much.

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01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:55,160
Speaker 3: I'm so grateful. For our friendship. Honestly, it's been true.

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01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 2: It's been a real gift, and I want to push

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01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 2: people to Time to Rise Summit dot com. Time to

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Speaker 2: Rise Summit dot com. That's where you can subscribe. Remember

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01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 2: you can sign up for absolutely free to join the

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Speaker 2: Time to Rise Summit. Can be a part of it.

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Speaker 2: With all of the seminars, the insights, three hours a day.

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Speaker 2: It's very rare that we get to do a podcast

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Speaker 2: and I get to direct you to something which will

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Speaker 2: exactly solve what we've been talking about today. We get

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Speaker 2: to do that, get to give you this summit as

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Speaker 2: a gift. It's absolutely free that Tony's doing with him

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Speaker 2: and his friends Time to risesummit dot com. Please go

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Speaker 2: do yourself a favor. It's a gift, it's free. Start

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Speaker 2: your year off right, get into that great season in

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Speaker 2: the first quarter of this year, and remember I'm forever

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Speaker 2: in your corner and always rooting for you.

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Speaker 1: Tony.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Thank you, Brodie, Thank you appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to this conversation. If

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Speaker 2: you enjoyed it, you'll love my chat with Adam Grant

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Speaker 2: on why discomfort is the key to growth and the

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Speaker 2: strategies for unlocking your hidden potential. If you know you

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Speaker 2: want to be more and achieve more this year, go

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Speaker 2: check it out right now.

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Speaker 1: You set a goal today, you achieve it in six months,

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Speaker 1: and then by the time it happens, it's almost a relief.

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Speaker 1: There's no sense of meaning and purpose. You sort of

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Speaker 1: expected it, and you would have been disappointed if it

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Speaker 1: didn't happen.