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Speaker 1: In April two thousand and four, a photograph of monsters

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Speaker 1: awful to be real. Two things, in fact, two things

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Speaker 1: stationed and Bagdad. In two thousand and four, a pair

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Speaker 1: of monstrous, pale spiders, each seemingly large enough to dwarf

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Speaker 1: the hand holding them. They seemed to resemble the terrifying

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Speaker 1: They were said to be camel spiders fabled a rachnids

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Speaker 1: of the Middle Eastern desert, tales of which spread among

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Speaker 1: military personnel in the area during both the First and

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Speaker 1: to the writer, to give you a better idea of

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Speaker 1: what our troops are dealing with. As the image continued

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Speaker 1: to scurry across the internet, wilder claims soon attached themselves

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Speaker 1: to the unnerving looking creature. They were capable of huge

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Speaker 1: they were said to make an all screaming sound as

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Speaker 1: The viral camel spider photo was a horror story borne

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Speaker 1: from an arachnophobe's worse nightmares, but thankfully, in this instance

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Speaker 1: at least, there is cause for reassurance. Camel spiders are

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Speaker 1: real and native to Iraq. The pair and the photograph

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Speaker 1: trick of camera perspective. In truth, the biggest specimens don't

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Speaker 1: nor do they scream, and any minor trace of venom

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Speaker 1: they possess is no use to them, as their teeth

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Speaker 1: are far too short to break skin. They lay their

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Speaker 1: eggs in the soil, not in any living creature, let

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Speaker 1: alone something as hard to reach as a camel. As

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Speaker 1: their ability to jump great heights is also entirely fictitious.

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Speaker 1: In short, the viral photograph is an illusion, and the

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Speaker 1: claims that accrue to it are nothing but urban legend.

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Speaker 1: Even if the camel spiders were as large as they

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Speaker 1: known arachnids like the goliath bird eater or the giant huntsman.

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Speaker 1: An arachnophobe, it seems, can traveled to Iraq without too

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Speaker 1: much cause for concern. But over the decades many stories

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Speaker 1: both far to some but unnervingly near to others, of

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Speaker 1: You're listening to unexplained, and I am Richard McLean Smith.

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Speaker 1: Back in nineteen forty two, during the Second World War,

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Speaker 1: deep in the Owen Stanley Mountains of southeastern Papa, New Guinea,

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Speaker 1: The Pacific island of Papa New Guinea remains one of

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Speaker 1: large enough to overpower and drag away antelope, birds, and

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Speaker 1: According to the Bakar community, the Cuba fufi typically make

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