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Speaker 1: how big it may have ended up for them, it

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Speaker 2: Thanks for watching, guys. Today's episode is brought to you

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Speaker 2: by boost Mobile. Today's guest has been keeping us laughing

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Speaker 2: for over three decades. As an actor, his work has

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Speaker 2: become part of how we experience film and television, and

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Speaker 2: through shows like Black As, she's helped redefine how we

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Speaker 2: see the Black family on screen. He is currently holding

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Speaker 2: the record for the most NAACP Image Awards for Outstanding Actor. Yes,

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Speaker 2: he's also a pretty great golfer, depending on the day

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Speaker 2: you know. No, but he's he's been a familiar and

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Speaker 2: trusted presence, and he is now stepping into a new

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Speaker 2: chapter as the host of Netflix's revival of Star Search.

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Speaker 2: Please welcome Anthony Anderson so Ir All Podcast.

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Speaker 1: All right, First off, I didn't know I held the

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Speaker 2: Did not know that. No, I'm here to tell you

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Speaker 2: according to my research.

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Speaker 1: No, your RESEARCHIP, it's pretty sput on. I got a

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Speaker 2: There are a lot of other accolades too, but we

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Speaker 2: get all in your life.

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Speaker 1: We can talk about the thirteen mm's that I'm over thirteen.

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Speaker 1: I'm the black Susan Lucci.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you make jokes, but does that suck?

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Speaker 1: No, it doesn't.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't suck. You're okay with the nomination. They even

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Speaker 1: A certificate that's that acknowledges that you have been selected

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Speaker 2: I was like, for why doesn't hit the same on

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Speaker 1: It's like a participation trophy. I'm like, for why No.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I have a in ninety seven. What year

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Speaker 2: was that? Ladies? Night. We got a Grammy nomination. Okay, yes,

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Speaker 2: so I have back then Grammys they give you at

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Speaker 2: least a medallion, okay, okay ran a race Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay,

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Speaker 2: so I don't have a Grammy.

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Speaker 1: No, but you got a Grammy medallion.

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Speaker 2: But I have a medallion and I put it in

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Speaker 1: There I go.

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Speaker 2: So maybe it's all in the framing of the case.

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Speaker 2: You deserve at least at least five of those at means.

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Speaker 1: Ah, thank you. You know what I'm saying to you.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel like that?

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Speaker 1: We all feel like that. We all feel like you. Look,

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Speaker 1: first off, we don't do what we do for the trophies. Yea,

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Speaker 2: Though it doesn't doesn't humble you. You ain't all that.

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Speaker 2: Not everybody realizes how much that really was your show.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we know is your show as the start,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't really a child actor. This was a dream

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Speaker 2: You know, that's pretty impressive, Anthony. Yeah, look at you

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Speaker 1: You know, it's crazy, Angie. I uh, you know most people.

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Speaker 2: Because I'm not good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, we need to know that.

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Speaker 1: What is that?

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Speaker 2: What do you think as you talk about your father

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Speaker 1: Wow? You know what? Okay, I'm going to start out

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Speaker 2: But you didn't always do it.

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Speaker 1: didn't understand that. But later on in life he got it.

436
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 1: He saw the passion that I had. You know, he

437
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 1: saw he saw this from the age of nine. He

438
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 1: saw what I was doing. This on my own. It's

439
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,360
Speaker 1: not like, you know, my mother and my dad took

440
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 1: me someplace. You know. I found acting schools on my

441
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 1: own and conservatories, uh and all kinds of so, you know,

442
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 1: early on, this is this is this. I was like, no,

443
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 1: this is what I'm going to do with my life.

444
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 2: And you were a little kid on a mission.

445
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the only thing I prepared myself to

446
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 1: do in life. You know, call it now, you call

447
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 1: it foolishness or whatever.

448
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 2: It's one thing to be a kid with a dream

449
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 2: to be an actor. It's another thing to actually create

450
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 2: that dream to come true, but also then to have

451
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 2: the actual talent and the gift. Like, do you believe

452
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 2: what you have as a gift?

453
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 1: I do. I don't call it the talent. You know,

454
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 1: it's a gift that I have, and it's a gift

455
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:26,679
Speaker 1: that I'm supposed to share with the world, you know,

456
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 1: that's my responsibility. And then someone told me about and

457
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:31,880
Speaker 1: I was telling him about that, and I'm like, oh,

458
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 1: so you must know about the parables of gifts from

459
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 1: the Bible. And I was like, no, I don't. And

460
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 1: so they explained to me. You know, the three men

461
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 1: were blessed with gifts. This is the basics of it.

462
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 1: One guy buried his gift in the ground and kept

463
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 1: it to himself. The other guy multiplied applied it by five,

464
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 1: and the other guy multiplied it by ten. So when

465
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 1: the wise man came back, he said, what did you

466
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 1: do with your gifts? And he said, I did this,

467
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 1: and I shared it and I mult applied it by ten,

468
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,120
Speaker 1: and he blessed them. And he went on he said,

469
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:02,919
Speaker 1: what did you do with your gifts, He said, I

470
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 1: did this, and I multiplied it by five, and he

471
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 1: blessed me. Moved on. He said, what did you do

472
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 1: with your gifts? He said, I hid it in the

473
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 1: ground and I kept it to myself. He said, you

474
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 1: are to be banished in the corner to grind your

475
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 1: teeth for eternity, because these gifts that I gave you

476
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,479
Speaker 1: weren't supposed to be kept for you. They were supposed

477
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 1: to be shared. Had no idea about the parable of

478
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 1: gifts this was, but this was something that I believed

479
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: since I was a child. And so that's and I

480
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 1: understood the connection that I had to God, to a

481
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 1: higher power, to whatever it is that you may subscribe to.

482
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 1: But I realized that I have a connection, and I

483
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 1: understood that connection at a very early age. And it

484
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:48,239
Speaker 1: was scary at times to understand, to feel that, and

485
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 1: to understand and to experience that connection that I have.

486
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,959
Speaker 1: I no longer want anything in life, because all that

487
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: ever did was create a want for it. I claimed

488
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 1: things as my own, and I that's how.

489
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 2: I no, no, I have to understand that what do

490
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 2: you mean you don't.

491
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 1: Have you ever wanted something? Want to go someplace something

492
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 1: and never got it right. And you want to know

493
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: why you want those things. You never because in wanting

494
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: for those things, all you do or all you did,

495
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 1: was create a want for it. You never claimed it

496
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 1: as your own. You never said I will have this,

497
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: I will have that bag, I will have that guy,

498
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 1: I will have that girl, I will take this trip.

499
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 1: You never you never claimed it, You never saw yourself

500
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 1: having it. You just said I want this. So you're

501
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 1: just creating a perpetual want for whatever that thing is,

502
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: as opposed to claiming it for yourself. A little thing

503
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: that I tell myself before every audition or whatnot, or

504
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: meeting or whatever it is that may have, I claim

505
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: it as my own if it's meant for me to have,

506
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 1: That's all I can do. If it's mine, it's mine,

507
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 1: and I'm going to get it, and believe everything in

508
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: this room can is mine except for this microphone. I'm

509
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 1: going to come in here and I'm going to take

510
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,919
Speaker 1: everything out of here except this microphone, because it's mine.

511
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: It's not greed, it's not anything. No. I've claimed it

512
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: and I've been told that it's mine. But you can't

513
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: can't touch this cool I believe that and that's that's

514
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 1: what it is.

515
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 2: You've been told by who.

516
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: I've been told by the higher power, by whomever. I've

517
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 1: claimed it. Yeah, you know, I can claim a lot

518
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: of things, and I can. I'm claiming that bottle, the

519
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 1: glass of water right there. It's like, ah, it ain't yours. Yeah,

520
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: but I've claimed it. And I was like, yeah, but

521
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: I understand it's not mine. You know what's you know,

522
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: what's for you? You know, if that makes sense? Right?

523
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 1: Am I making sense?

524
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 2: You know, if you're claiming something that's not if it's

525
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 2: like a false claim, is that what you mean?

526
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: Is that what you mean? You just believe. Sometimes I

527
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,919
Speaker 1: just put it out in the universe, you know what

528
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and I claim it, and if it's truly mine,

529
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 1: it will come to me.

530
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think about what I what is mine

531
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 2: that I haven't claimed yet? See how it just to

532
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 2: see how I just self corrected. I was about to say,

533
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think about what I want.

534
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 1: No, Yeah, I see and and and and I try

535
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: to change the way that I speak and stop telling

536
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: myself I want that because I understand that all by

537
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,360
Speaker 1: saying that I want this all I'm doing is creating

538
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 1: a want for it. I'll never get it. So I'm

539
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 1: going to clean this glass of water as mine. Yeah,

540
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 1: you know, if it doesn't happen, change And if it

541
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 1: doesn't happen, then it wasn't meant for me. And that's

542
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,959
Speaker 1: how excuse me. And that's all I've been able to

543
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: get through auditions, wow, and everything and all of that

544
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: because it wasn't mine. It's meant for you, It's meant

545
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: for that person right there.

546
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 2: What was the last big thing you claimed.

547
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 1: That?

548
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,719
Speaker 2: Actually? Really?

549
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, even though it was offered to me, doesn't necessarily

550
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 1: mean it's going to be mine. You know, hey, Anthony,

551
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: are you interested in auditioning or not auditioning? Are you

552
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: interested in hosting star Search? Yeah? Why we say that,

553
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: Well they just got a call and said, you know

554
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: you're interested, So yeah, I'm down. So I go through

555
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: my thing. I claim this as mine if it's meant

556
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: for me to have, And at one point it wasn't mine.

557
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: Then I was like, okay, well it wasn't mine. Then

558
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 1: all of a sudden it came back and I didn't

559
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:21,719
Speaker 1: trip off of it.

560
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 2: I'm like, ah, it wasn't yours at that time yeah, yeah.

561
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: So you know, I'll tell you, I'll tell I'll tell

562
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 1: the story. It's a long story, and I've told this before,

563
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 1: but I like telling the story. At one point, I

564
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: was making I was making I've made fifty three movies

565
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: in a short period of time in my career.

566
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 2: Who which is that shit?

567
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: Yeah? Which is phenomenal. And I was always making these movies,

568
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: and I was going up to Canada making these movies.

569
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: And I would always say I want to leave the

570
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: country and make a movie, and I would always end

571
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: up in Canada. And one day it dawned on me,

572
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: this is a lesson in specificity and being specific in

573
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,719
Speaker 1: what we asked for. It dawned on me that I

574
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: was doing exactly what I said. I said I wanted

575
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: to make a movie in another country. I wentn't up

576
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: to Canada and made another movie. But that's not where

577
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 1: I wanted to be, you know. I was like, Oh, Canada, Canada.

578
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: All you needed to enter Canada was a birth certificate.

579
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: It was like, okay, all right, you know what I'm

580
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: not asking. I'm not claiming specific things for what it

581
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: is that I see myself doing. I asked for this,

582
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: and it came to me in the most general form,

583
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: which can still be of no use to me because

584
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: it didn't come to me the way that I wanted it,

585
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: the way that I needed it to. So at that moment,

586
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: I said, the next movie I make will be shot

587
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: overseas and I will need a passport to enter the country.

588
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: Three days later, I got a call, Hey, Anthony, Jerry

589
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: Bruckheimer wants to meet with you. You're in a very

590
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: shortlist for a movie that he's making. It's going to

591
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: shoot in Australia for six months. Wow. Okay, what's the

592
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: name of the movie? Movie is called? At that time,

593
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: it was called Down, Down and Under. The movie eventually

594
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: became Kangaroo Jack. So before my meeting with Jerry Bruckheimer,

595
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: I said, I claimed this as my own. If it's

596
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: meant for me to have, is this.

597
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 2: In prayer or this is just in your thoughts?

598
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: Prayer and my thoughts? And I put it all out.

599
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: It's across the board from me. I go to have

600
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,719
Speaker 1: my I go and have my audition, one of the

601
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: best auditions that I've ever had in my life. I

602
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: walk out of the audition was about forty five minutes.

603
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: I went in with Jerry O'Connor, who was my co star,

604
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 1: who was already cast as the lead. And I walked

605
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: out of the audition drenched in sweat, like I dove

606
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: into a swimming pool. I don't know what was going

607
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: on with us in this audition, but that is what happened.

608
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: I came out drenched in sweat. A week later, I

609
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: get a call Jerry Bruckheimer loved you your cast in

610
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: Uh down Under Kangaroo Jack. I was like, okay, cool.

611
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: I know I'm going to be in Australia for six months.

612
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,239
Speaker 1: This is how I want to live in Australia. I

613
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: saw myself living a certain way, and I said, when

614
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: I wake up every morning and when I go to

615
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: sleep every night, the Sydney Opera House has to be

616
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: outside my window. I get to Australia with the family,

617
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: We're in a hotel. I open up the window. What's

618
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: outside the window the Sydney Opera House.

619
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 2: Come on, master manifesto.

620
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't wannae there you go. I don't.

621
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: I don't want to sit. I don't want to live

622
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: in a hotel for six months. I want the comforts

623
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: of home. So I saw my how I wanted to

624
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: live while I was in Australia. I never told this

625
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: to the realator, but I called the realtor up and

626
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: she took me to some places. The very first place

627
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: she took me to was how I saw myself living.

628
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: Took me to a bunch of places and I said,

629
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: I want the first place. We get it. It's in

630
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: the place called Potts Point, right in the city on

631
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: a hill. It's on the twelfth floor. It's a corner unit.

632
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: The apartment is about three thousand square feet panoramic views

633
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: ceiling to floor windows, and outside my window was the

634
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: Downtown Sydney Skyline, the Sydney Opera House, North Sydney Bridge,

635
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: Sydney Harbor Bridge, North Sydney Island, and Double Bay Water

636
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: all around it. And so I'm sitting there one day,

637
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: It's about three o'clock in the morning and I was like, Wow,

638
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: this is pretty fucking dope. I'm looking around. It's pitch

639
00:32:55,040 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: black outside except for the everything that's lit up. Life

640
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: comes on. I'm looking through the television. My life is

641
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: my very first movie. I'm looking through the television and

642
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: Life comes on. I was like, oh shit, smoking a joint.

643
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: I'm a little high and I was like, oh my god,

644
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: I haven't even come on the screen yet from my

645
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: first appearance in this movie. And I was like, here

646
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: I come. And I'm sitting there, and that's when it

647
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: hit me. I had an epiphany. And I look at

648
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: how I'm living, and I look at what I've manifested,

649
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: and I looked at what I've asked for, and I

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Speaker 1: looked at what I've cleimed. And I'm sitting here looking

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Speaker 1: at my life while I'm watching the movie Life, which

652
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: was my very first movie, which was, in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: my birth into the movie industry. And because of what

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Speaker 1: I did in that movie, and the success of my

655
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Speaker 1: movie got me my next opportunities, and those opportunities got

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Speaker 1: me Kangaroo Jack. And this is the life that I'm

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00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: living now. And I look around and I see it

658
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: how I'm living in Life and I'm watching Life, the

659
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: birth into this industry, and that's when it hit me.

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00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, this is powerful, and I understand

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00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: my connection. I understand how I manifest things into my

662
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: life and how I understand how I ask for things

663
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: and I claim things as my own. So when I

664
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: talk to young actors and when I talk to people.

665
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 1: I tell them about that. I tell them about claiming

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00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: everything that they see for themselves as their own and

667
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: it will happen. Stop wanting for things and claim those

668
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: things and you will have them. That's what I do.

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00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: And I can sit here as a living testament to that.

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00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 2: I believe. Yeah, I'm going to restructure some ways. I'm

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00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 2: thinking about a few things right right after this interview. Yeah,

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00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 2: that's so good, Anthony. Yeah, so has that ever failed you?

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00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 2: Has there ever been a moment you claim something or

674
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Speaker 2: really I know the word want, but like really wanted something.

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00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 1: And I don't. I don't, I don't. I don't see

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00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: it as failure because it wasn't meant for me.

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00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, got it.

678
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: It wasn't meant for me. Yeah, you know, it wasn't

679
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 1: going to open up the next opportunity or wasn't going

680
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: to give me the experience that I needed in my

681
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: life that I didn't probably didn't even know that I needed,

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00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 1: you know. And I've never been upset at another actor

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00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: or another person getting the gig that I was up

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00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 1: for because it wasn't mine. And I always tell people,

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00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: I was like, you can't you you can't compare yourself

686
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: to anyone else, and you can't judge them or judge yourself.

687
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: I was like, that's their journey, that's their path, and

688
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: I was like, that was destined for them. That was

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00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: predetermined for them, and you can't worry about that. No

690
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: matter how you feel it was going to change your life,

691
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: no matter how big it may have ended up for them,

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00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: It may not have been that way for you. It

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00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: may not have. But my reality is I didn't get

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Speaker 1: it because it wasn't.

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00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 2: Mine for you.

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Speaker 1: And I know, as long as I prepare myself the

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00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 1: way that I'm supposed to prepare myself before I enter

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Speaker 1: any audition, any meeting, or whatever. Because I am the

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00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: only constant in the equation, every equation in life that

700
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,760
Speaker 1: I'm a part of, the only constant is me. Everything

701
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: else around me is going to change, but I'm the

702
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 1: only constant. So when I go to work or when

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00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: I go to prepare myself for work, I prepare to

704
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: the best of my ability and I go in there.

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00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: And as long as I give it my all and

706
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Speaker 1: I no idea what I was supposed to do, I

707
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 1: can't hands up, I can't do anything else about it,

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00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: I can't do anything else.

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00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 2: It's an easier way to live too. It is that's

710
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 2: our sleep at night.

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00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 1: I can't be like a shit, why the fuck it? No,

712
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this. I got it. Boom, I'm here

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Speaker 1: all right. I gave it. Fucking left an audition like

714
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Speaker 1: I sweaty, like I got out of a pool. I

715
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: was like, I left it all. I left it all

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Speaker 1: on the floor there.

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Speaker 2: Now it's in God's sense. Now it's what's for me,

718
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:10,959
Speaker 2: and it's.

719
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: All subjective anyway to whoever is there. I can just

720
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Speaker 1: be the best that I could be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, that's it. What is it that in

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Speaker 2: your life right now, in this in this phase of

723
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 2: your life, Like, what is it that you're manifesting for

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00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 2: yourself now or what is it that you're I don't know,

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00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 2: working towards or claiming what are you claiming that you

726
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 2: haven't received yet?

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00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: Constant not that I haven't received, but I just I

728
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: just want constant peace in life, you know, and however

729
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: that that comes from, wherever.

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Speaker 2: That comes from, golf course, maybe.

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00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: Golf course, relationships, work, all of that. I just I

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00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: just want peace. And you know, I'm fifty five now,

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00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't know I've been doing thirty years.

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00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: You just you said three decades and I was like,

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Speaker 1: she lying. I was like, oh, wait a minute, Nope,

736
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Speaker 1: we have a record of it. Yeah, you know you

737
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 1: it's crazy. I think about my last real job before

738
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:16,919
Speaker 1: I got my first real book, my first gig, which

739
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: was in the House with Loll couj and Wi Allen

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Speaker 1: back on NBC. Wow. Yeah. While I did that, I

741
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:27,720
Speaker 1: was working for Ticketmaster, and my last job I worked

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Speaker 1: in the phone the call center for Ticketmaster. Thank you

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Speaker 1: This is Anthony speaking. How may I help you. I

746
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: had to do that eight hours a day, five days

747
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 1: a week, making five dollars and fifty cents an hour,

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Speaker 1: with a daughter, with a daughter with the daughter wow,

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Speaker 1: and a fiance at the time. Wow. Yeah. So yeah

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00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: that was that was my last gig, and I think about,

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Speaker 1: you know the things that have happened in those thirty years.

752
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 2: I didn't realize how much we have a you know,

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00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,240
Speaker 2: my thirty years ago, I was Hi, my name is Angie.

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00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 2: I'm calling you to ask you what songs you listen

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Speaker 2: to on the radio. I'm for a music research program

756
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 2: I had to do. I did my version of that.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the space that I'm in the space.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy, that's amazing. I was in college. I

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Speaker 1: also had to call you at night and try to

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Speaker 1: sell you encyclopedias and.

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Speaker 2: Ship encyclopedias is crazy.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I was like a but it was a gig.

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Speaker 1: But you know, but I just I, you know, I

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Speaker 1: pray for you know what I want. I want more wisdom, patience,

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, peace, understanding, happiness, joy. I

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Speaker 1: everybody else wants that. And that's that's where I am

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Speaker 2: problem called one eight hundred gambler, what about and loved Anthony.

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Speaker 2: We've seen you in the carpet with Roxy, which is

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Speaker 2: very cute and interesting, especially for those of us that

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Speaker 2: know Roxy for years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And to be friends with somebody for that long and

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Speaker 1: How long had this's been going on? And you know

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Speaker 1: it was something that just happened it would you know,

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Speaker 1: we just happened to be in the same place at

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Speaker 1: the same time, at the right time.

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Speaker 2: You mean in life?

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Speaker 1: In life?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, in life.

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Speaker 2: Did you always kind of have a crush though, even

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00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 2: back in the day.

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00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: No, you know, honestly I did not.

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Speaker 2: You did watch one six.

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Speaker 1: I watched one O six in parks like, oh she acuty,

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Speaker 1: But never it was like I gotta get with that,

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00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 1: you know. We laugh about that. It's like, no, it was.

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Speaker 1: It was never that for me, and we've known each

821
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Speaker 1: other since. But I met Roxy with Kevin Lyles before

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Speaker 1: She's star arted one six in.

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Speaker 2: Part Oh well.

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Speaker 1: I remember I was riding with keV and he said

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Speaker 1: I got to go meet somebody, and I was like, okay, cool,

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00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: and this is just great. I was in New York.

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00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: I was in the back of his maybox and we

828
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Speaker 1: pulled up and it was Roxy that he was talking to.

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00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 1: And we sat up there and I was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I met you, and she said, yeah, I don't remember you.

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Speaker 1: And so we laugh about it. But then we become

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Speaker 1: friends over you know, almost twenty years, you know, play

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Speaker 1: spades games and all that. We're in the same friend

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Speaker 1: friend group and all that, and it just so happened

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Speaker 1: that we just happened to be in the same place

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Speaker 1: at the same time in our lives. And this happened,

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Speaker 1: and I welcome it. And the difference now is I'm learning,

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00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: or I've learned, to prioritize a better balance in life,

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Speaker 1: in my personal life and not be just strictly about

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Speaker 1: work and about what the next project is going to be,

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00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: because I'm no longer in that space.

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Speaker 2: I do think there's something to be said about timing

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00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 2: and you being at a place in your life where

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Speaker 2: you can be in a different type of relationship. It's like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't think people talk about that

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00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 2: enough about the timing of connecting with somebody, right, Whereas

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00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 2: like Roxy gets to get like an evolved version of here,

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Speaker 2: Yeah you know, yeah, I'm sure you're not perfect, and

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Speaker 2: I'm not.

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Speaker 1: Hell, I get to get an involved version of myself.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's crazy because and things happen again about

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00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: asking for things and manifesting things in your life. At

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00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: one point, not too long ago, I sat back and

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00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,399
Speaker 1: thought about the relationship that I would like to have

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Speaker 1: at this point in my life, and I realized that

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00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: I was never going to have that if I was

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00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 1: to continue doing what I was doing. Not that it

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00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: was crazy, and I was like, but hold on, if

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Speaker 1: this is what you want, these are the changes that

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Speaker 1: you have to make. And I made those changes. Uh,

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Speaker 1: And I believe you receive what you're asking for. And

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00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: I asked for this relationship with whoever it was going

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Speaker 1: to be with, and once I cleared a path and

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Speaker 1: a way for that to happen and to come in

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Speaker 1: my life, it happened. And that's what this is where

866
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: I am right now.

867
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Speaker 2: I love that.

868
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's a beautiful thing. Yeah.

869
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 2: Is it weird for you to be in a pub,

870
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 2: for you guys to be so public because because there's

871
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 2: so much interest in it.

872
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I've always thought it was weird that,

873
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 1: you know, people wanted to know about other people's relationships.

874
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 1: It's not it's none of my business. So yeah, it's

875
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: it's weird to be walking down the ship or just

876
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: I was. We all went to and yeah, the carpet,

877
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 1: but even before that, we went to an escape room. Uh,

878
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 1: and when it had lunch and but it was my son,

879
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 1: myself and Roxy. But you know, in all the photos

880
00:44:55,800 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: they cropped my son out, made it made a big news.

881
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 1: So it was. But look, we're both public figures and

882
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: all that, and it's an interest of the public and

883
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: all that. But everybody wants to be in somebody's business.

884
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: Everybody wants a story to tell.

885
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 2: Everybody wants love, a love story to a love story specifically.

886
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and and hopefully this this, this is a wonderful

887
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: love story. Yes, but I made a way for it.

888
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: I made a way for it to for it to

889
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: happen in my life and for me to have the

890
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 1: relationship that I feel I deserve and a relationship that

891
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,240
Speaker 1: I feel that I need and want at this point

892
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: in my life as a fifty five year old man, it.

893
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 2: Must be nice to have someone because she's she's she

894
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 2: hasn't stopped working, not at all. Hustle is her hustle

895
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 2: is still I see her showing up to set do

896
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 2: an interviewing this do it working on this project? Is

897
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 2: that a nice That must be a nice thing to

898
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 2: have somebody who kind of understands that it is.

899
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 1: It is uh uh, it's great to have somebody who

900
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: understands the business, who and who's in the business that

901
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: you know, supports you and and and I support her.

902
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:12,240
Speaker 2: Did she have a did she cheerlead the first episode

903
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 2: of Star Search? And she like a fan of the

904
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 2: show that she the type of girlfriend that comes home

905
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 2: and goes, you could have did this better? Or that

906
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 2: was really funny day, or like you know what I'm saying.

907
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: You get that. She she is a fan of the show.

908
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: She was there for our first episode last week. And

909
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,720
Speaker 1: you're not. She supports it, talks about it on on

910
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: on her news segment on ABC News and working. You know,

911
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: we we have a we have a great relationship working

912
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: and personally look at that.

913
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Star sears must be fun, I mean, because

914
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 2: you care so much about how even the mentor you

915
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 2: talked about mentoring people. Yeah, and just must be not

916
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 2: exciting to be around such young fresh talent.

917
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: It is exciting to be there. You know, I grew

918
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: up wanting to be on Star Search. They used to

919
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:02,439
Speaker 1: have an acting competition on the remember that Star Search,

920
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:03,919
Speaker 1: and I remember sitting at home it was like, Mama,

921
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: we got to get me to Hollywood so I can

922
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:07,959
Speaker 1: audition for this because I can do this much better

923
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: than what they're doing. I can do this and we

924
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: never made it there, but here I am.

925
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 2: Now do you have a compassion for them? Like, do

926
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 2: you are they? I don't know. Do you do you

927
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:19,240
Speaker 2: give them?

928
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 1: Uh? You know, I try to give them notes, the

929
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: notes as as I can be. I'm not a judge,

930
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: but I don't want it to seem biased or anything

931
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: like that. So like like the judges never see any

932
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: of the performances until the show, until we do the

933
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 1: show live, because we do the show live Tuesday and

934
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:44,280
Speaker 1: Wednesday nights on Netflix. So in rehearsals or run throughs,

935
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: in camera blocking, I get to be there with the talent.

936
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: And so they perform and then they come to center

937
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 1: stage and I go through my whatever it is that

938
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 1: telling people how to vote and all that, but I

939
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: also get a chance to have a conversation with them

940
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: about how do they feel about their performance? You know,

941
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: how they feel about the judges reaction to them. And

942
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: in that I asked questions or I'll give I'll give them.

943
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: I try to give them notes without them being notes,

944
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: and hopefully they pick up on it and hopefully they're handlers.

945
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 1: If they're the young contestants, their mothers or fathers or

946
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: who was there with them. It's like, Yo, that was

947
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: a good thing that Anthony said. There was a young

948
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 1: singer on there, and I didn't see him connecting with

949
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: the audience. You know, in rehearsal even though there was

950
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: no audience. He was up there singing, doing a great job,

951
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: but there was no connection. So when I brought him

952
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: center stage, I was like, hey, I love the way

953
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: that you connected with the people in the audience as

954
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 1: if you were singing to them directly. I said, that's

955
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: going to take you a long way while you're on

956
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: Star Search. What do you think about your performance? So

957
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 1: I dropped little nuggets like that in rehearsals without being

958
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: overbearing and all of that, because I know what that means,

959
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 1: and that's what our judges are there for. That's what

960
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: Jelly Roll and Chrissy Tiaguan and Sam Michelle Geller is

961
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: therefore to give constructive criticism and inside as well as

962
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: judging or giving their one their one to five star.

963
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: But it's fun to be to be the host of

964
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: the show, you know, steering that ship live, It's it's crazy.

965
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 2: It's an iconic, it is institution.

966
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: It is just and to sit there and host this. Look.

967
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: I've hosted live shows before. I've hosted the Emmys, I've

968
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: hosted ten NAACP Image Awards. You know, I've hosted this

969
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: Soul Train in BT Awards. Those shows are live as well,

970
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: so I have that experience. But to do this with

971
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: Netflix with no commercial breaks and the world is watching,

972
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 1: not just America, the world, and for the audience to

973
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: be able to vote in real time with these contestants

974
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 1: on the show, it's it's it's pretty amazing. Because Wharf's

975
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 1: viewing show as a say in it. It's not just

976
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 1: the three in studio judges. They have a say in

977
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: it from watching the show, and I love it.

978
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 2: You're like the perfect person. You don't know who it

979
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 2: was going to when it was out of your wheelhouse.

980
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 2: But I can't imagine I can't imagine anybody else hosting.

981
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 2: It wasn't meant for them all right, So I have

982
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 2: two segments. One is our irl voice note okay, present,

983
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 2: it is our It's usually a fan or a I

984
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 2: don't know, somebody either from the show or from yours,

985
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 2: who has a question or comment.

986
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 3: Hi, Anthony, I'm a huge fan. I was a big

987
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 3: fan of Blackish. Me and my family watch it every

988
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 3: week when I was on air. I'm an aspiring stand

989
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 3: up comedian and trying to look for acting rules. How

990
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 3: do you stay confident saying no to opportunities that don't

991
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 3: align with you when you honestly really need a job

992
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 3: to pay the bills?

993
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:50,720
Speaker 2: What's his name? He got no name? Got on nothing?

994
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 1: Not to the no name actor slash comedian who called

995
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: in first, I would say, get a name and make

996
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:03,359
Speaker 1: sure the world knows your name. But you know, here's

997
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: an interesting thing. When I didn't feel there were opportunities

998
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: for me, I'm not going to answer your question in order,

999
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 1: but I'm going to answer it. When I didn't feel

1000
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: there are opportunities for me, I went out and created

1001
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: my own opportunities. You know, let's not forget about that.

1002
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: You go out and create opportunities when you don't see

1003
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:25,760
Speaker 1: an opportunity for yourself. And I have been fortunate enough

1004
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: to have had success in that with Blackish, with my

1005
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: very first television show that I created, all about the

1006
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: Andersons and whatnot. Never be afraid to challenge things and

1007
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: to take on a challenge for yourself. There were many

1008
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 1: a time when I was up for something in a

1009
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: movie or not even considered for something in a movie

1010
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: because the character was it written black was it written

1011
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: for me? And this is where I go within challenging.

1012
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I can't it be me? You know,

1013
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: the ethnicity of this character means nothing to the story.

1014
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 1: It can be anybody, So why can't I come in

1015
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 1: and read for this? And I was able to change

1016
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:17,919
Speaker 1: the minds of casting directors and directors and whatnot and

1017
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: get an opportunity to read for different characters than what

1018
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 1: they saw me as and sometimes even the cast is that.

1019
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: But also, just be true to yourself and be your

1020
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: authentic self. And that's what I would say, And that

1021
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: comes in the form of telling your story. Since you

1022
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 1: say you're a comic, a stand up you know, be

1023
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: your authentic self and tell your story and have you

1024
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 1: tell it from your point of view and have a

1025
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: perspective on things, and that's what's going to set you apart.

1026
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: It's not about being a cookie cutter and like, oh,

1027
00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: so and so did it this way, So and so

1028
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: did it this way. No, they did it their way,

1029
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:03,280
Speaker 1: So do it your way as well.

1030
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:05,840
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Speaker 1: If we don't, it's a long one. Uh H. If

1046
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: your heart had a rule book, what are two qualities

1047
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: that would be written in bold when it comes to

1048
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: a partner and why mmmm it is my heart had

1049
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: a rule book. First rule would be to be honest,

1050
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: To be honest about what it is about, to be

1051
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: honest about who you are, To be honest about what

1052
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 1: it is that you're looking for in a partner, and

1053
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,800
Speaker 1: to be honest in what it is that you want

1054
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: in a relationship. That's one thing I'm gonna I'm gonna

1055
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 1: give you a whole lot. Be consistent in who you are.

1056
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: Be the same person that that person met and that

1057
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: fell in love with. Never forget who that is and

1058
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 1: what attracted that person to you. You can't switch up

1059
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: midstreams like oh I got you now. So you have

1060
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 1: to be consistent in all of that, Be patient, be understanding.

1061
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: I think that that's enough. That's good, right. I'm trying

1062
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: to become better at all of those things and now,

1063
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 1: and to be honest. It's an adjustment. You know, I

1064
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: was in I was in a relationship and in a

1065
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: marriage for thirty three years. So you know some of

1066
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: these things are are They're hard to break, They're not unbreakable.

1067
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: I just said, yeah, just old habits that you have

1068
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: to retrain, retrain yourself or train yourself differently. And you know,

1069
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 1: some old habits you really don't want anyway, you know,

1070
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 1: regardless of the relationship. Just like because we talk about evolving,

1071
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, I want to change. I'm no

1072
00:55:56,280 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: longer that person, but these habits that I have seem

1073
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: to bring me back to being that person, and I

1074
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 1: don't want that cycle. So yeah, it's you know, you

1075
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 1: have to be cognizant of conscious and conscious of that

1076
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:13,399
Speaker 1: in yourself. So I'm becoming a better me. I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: no longer uh the Anthony Anderson that I was, you know,

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Speaker 1: ten years ago, five years ago, two years ago. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I I am. I'm getting better at becoming those things.

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Speaker 1: It fun to watch, Oh, thank you. It's fun to

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Speaker 1: be on this journey. Yeah, it's exciting. It's exciting. I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna lie. It's exciting for me. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: What is Anthony Anderson doing in five years? Oh?

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Speaker 1: What am I doing in five years? I will tell

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Speaker 1: you this. You and I are going to be playing

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Speaker 1: better golf together five years.

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Speaker 2: I love that for your son.

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Speaker 1: But you put me in Wait, what the people need

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Speaker 1: to know is that I was there when you don't.

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Speaker 1: I I don't know if it was the first time

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Speaker 1: you played golf, but I was there in the very

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Speaker 1: beginning for you it was, and a year to the

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Speaker 1: date of the year to the day later, I was

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Speaker 1: there when you were playing much better golf at the

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Speaker 1: same event. And we've been traveling the world playing golf

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Speaker 1: with each other and around each other.

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Speaker 2: So it's such a wonderful isn't it just like a

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Speaker 2: wonderful thing to do?

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Speaker 1: It? Is?

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Speaker 2: It is?

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Speaker 1: I love it so much, So we will definitely be

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Speaker 1: doing that together in five years. What will I be

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Speaker 1: doing in five years? Hopefully still doing Star Search Live

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Speaker 1: on Netflix and probably wrapping up or in the midst

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Speaker 1: of another successful television show that people will be talking

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Speaker 1: about twenty years down the line, like they will be

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Speaker 1: talking about Blackish like they've been talking about The Cosby Show,

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Speaker 1: like they've been talking about All in the Family, like

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Speaker 1: they've been talking about Martin, like they've been talking about

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Speaker 1: all the great ahead of them. So hopefully that's what

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Speaker 1: I will be doing in five years, and doing another

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Speaker 1: five year reunion on.

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Speaker 3: I R L.

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Speaker 1: Yay, I'm claiming. I'm claiming it for us. I love that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm claiming it for us.

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Speaker 2: Well, all that's going to happen because you are the master.

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Speaker 2: There you go manifesto.

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Speaker 1: Yes, ma'am the Master manifestor Anthony Anderson the Master manifested.

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Speaker 1: It's like an old episode of Seinfeld the Master Masturbader.

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Speaker 2: Excuse me, episode that would open a whole other wise,

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Speaker 2: which unfortunately we don't have time for today. But thank

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Speaker 2: you so much. And my final outro question for you, Anthony,

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Speaker 2: it's in the bowl too. It's one of my favorite

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Speaker 2: ones in the bowl. If God were to send you

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Speaker 2: a text today, what would it say.

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Speaker 1: Ooh, keep doing what I put you on this earth

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Speaker 1: to do. And it's not just entertaining. I'll say this

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Speaker 1: about about I believe my energy was put on this

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Speaker 1: earth to entertain. I said that earlier, but that is

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Speaker 1: why I'm here to share this gift. And it's crazy

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Speaker 1: that I'm in the medium to do just that, television, stage, film, movies,

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Speaker 1: live shows. I've always said that I wanted to have

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Speaker 1: an effect and an effect on people's lives with my work,

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Speaker 1: and because of my work, that takes me around the

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Speaker 1: world to have conversations like this. So I believe his

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Speaker 1: text to me would be continue to do what I

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Speaker 1: put you on this earth to.

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Speaker 2: Do, Anthony, and this and ladies and gentlemen, well done, sir.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. This is Anthony Anderson in real life.

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Speaker 2: Hey guys, thanks for watching. Make sure you subscribe, like comments,

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Speaker 2: and check out all of the other episodes we have

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Speaker 2: on Edge. Martinez IROL podcast

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