WEBVTT - My New Job Isn't What I Signed Up For 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:07.160 My colleagues, We'll stop commenting on everything I get at 0:00:07.200 --> 0:00:09.680 people and meeting? Why does my coworker keep taking credit 0:00:09.680 --> 0:00:12.240 for all my idea? Have any wisdom for me? Hi, 0:00:12.280 --> 0:00:15.760 I'm Alison Green. Welcome to the Aska Manager podcast, where 0:00:15.760 --> 0:00:19.520 I answer questions from listeners about life at work, everything 0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:21.640 from what to say if you're allergic to your coworkers 0:00:21.640 --> 0:00:23.840 perfume to what to do if you drink too much 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:29.160 at the company party. Let's get started. Taking a new 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:33.040 job is always something of a gamble. Something can sound 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:35.920 great in the interview process, but then once you start 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:38.480 turn out not to be at all what you thought 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:40.800 it was going to be, And sometimes it can be 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:44.000 hard to sort through whether it's just a rocky transition 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:46.840 and it'll get better, or whether it's the wrong fit. 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:48.640 And if it is the wrong fit, it can be 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:50.800 tough to know what to do about it, especially if 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:53.960 you're trying to build a stable work history. That is 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:56.600 the situation that my guest today finds herself in. Hi, 0:00:56.720 --> 0:01:00.240 and welcome to the show. All right, thanks for having me. So, 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:02.640 you started a new job about a month or so ago, 0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:05.000 which came with a pay raise and a better title, 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:07.560 and was supposed to be work that was more in 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:11.040 line with your master's degree. The position that you took 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:12.920 used to be held by one person, but it was 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:15.959 split into two, so they hired you and one other 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:18.360 person to do that work. But what you've been finding 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:20.399 is that most of the work that you've been assigned 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:23.399 was handled by an intern before you started, And it's 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:26.320 not the work that you talked about during the hiring 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:28.479 process and that you thought you were coming on board 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:31.000 to do. And you're trying to figure out is this 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:33.640 just growing pains from a new job or is this 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:36.039 not the right fit? Am I getting that right? And 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:39.080 is there anything else you want to add to that? Um? Yeah, 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:41.399 I think that's about right. Uh, you kind of have 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:44.640 the gist of it. Um yeah, there's the basic details 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:47.080 now When you say that most of what you're doing 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:49.360 now is work that used to be done by an intern. 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:52.160 Was it the intern job that was split into two 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:55.480 between you and your new coworker, or was it was 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:58.120 the job that was split into a different higher level job. 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:01.080 So the job that was went into two was a 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:06.480 different higher level position. And Um, there in the sort 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:09.960 of transition period between this other person leaving and the 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:12.000 two of us coming on, there was an intern that 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:15.000 sort of did the majority of the work, and when 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:18.400 the other person was employed there at that point, they 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:20.400 also had an intern that sort of helped with that 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:24.160 work as well. And that work is sort of consuming 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:27.280 my everyday work life now, so I can't really focus 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:30.239 on the other responsibilities that were listed in the job 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:34.480 description during the interview. And the person, the other person 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:36.280 who is hired at the same time as you, from 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:38.840 what you can see, are they doing the work that 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:44.040 you thought you would be doing some responsibilities, yes, but 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:47.480 not everything. There was one thing in particular, like one 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:50.400 project in particular, um that I was really interested through 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:52.480 the interview process, and I brought it up a lot 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:57.040 as as having had experience in it from my previous position. 0:02:57.080 --> 0:02:59.600 They were really excited about it. But when I came on, 0:02:59.760 --> 0:03:02.360 it turned out that project was not in my wheelhouse 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:06.800 at all. It was somebody else's responsibility. Now. And is 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:08.799 that somebody else the other person who was hired or 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:12.120 a completely different person, Yeah, that's the person that was hired, Okay. 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:15.920 And the stuff that you have been doing, how far 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:18.320 off is it from the work that you thought you 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:21.920 were coming in to do? Is it pretty different. Um. 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:26.160 So I would say that I had some idea that 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:28.760 this would be part of the position. I just didn't 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:32.640 realize that it would take up so much of my time. Um. 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:34.680 I was coming into with an understanding that this might 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:38.240 be maybe of my responsibilities, but it's really more like 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:43.000 cent of my responsibilities right now. Has anyone acknowledged the 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:46.080 situation to you, Like, has anyone said anything like, oh, 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:48.680 this is just until you get ramped up, or someone 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:50.800 was unexpectedly hit by a bus and out for a 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:52.840 two months, so we're having you kind of pinch hit 0:03:52.920 --> 0:03:55.480 for them until they're back, or any other kind of 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:58.440 acknowledgment that this is different than what you talked about 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:02.960 during the hiring process. Yeah, I think. Um. Recently, my 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:05.680 boss has sort of um come up to me and 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:08.800 said in a few instances, like, I know that this 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:11.440 is like a really big part of your time right now, 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:14.080 and we're hoping to sort of transition that work in 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:16.680 some way. There has been some talk of bringing on 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:19.080 an intern again to sort of help with that work 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:22.760 as well, But there has been some acknowledgment that this is, 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:24.760 you know, a lot of work. It's taking up a 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:26.680 lot of your time. And we want you to do 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:30.200 some some of those other responsibilities. Oh okay, so that's 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:33.560 really promising actually that they see what's happening and they're 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:37.360 not okay with it. And when you've had those conversations, 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:40.640 has there have you gotten a sense of like is 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:44.240 that like oh often some hypothetical distant future, or is 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:46.880 that like within the next couple of weeks. You know, 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:49.800 it's been really hard to tell. When I first wrote 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:52.640 to you, this wasn't part of the conversation at all yet. 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:54.960 It was just sort of appeared that, oh, this is 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:57.720 what you're doing on these responsibilities. But as time has 0:04:57.760 --> 0:05:00.640 gone on, um, there have been sort of or glimmers 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:02.839 of hope that this might be changing and this is 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:06.440 not actually supposed to be the status quo. But it's 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:10.160 hard to tell whether or not it's actually something that 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:15.720 could happen, like, you know, like my responsibilities might change. Um. Yeah, 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:19.320 And it is your sense that your boss let me 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:21.440 ask about a different way. When you have talked to 0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:24.520 your boss about this, how have you handled that side 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:26.320 of the conversation, Like have you tried to give the 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:29.120 impression that you feel some urgency around getting this settled, 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:32.880 or have you tried to be really accommodating. I've tried 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:36.839 to be really accommodating, especially because it's my first month 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:40.240 and I'm trying to make a good impression and um 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:44.320 not trying to sort of make them feel like I'm 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:47.040 burdened by a position that I just started. But I 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:51.680 have expressed that it is a lot um and some 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:55.080 some help would be really appreciated. And when did you 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:57.040 and your boss last talk about it? How long has 0:05:57.080 --> 0:06:00.040 it been since that last conversation? Maybe about a we 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:04.960 could go okay, So that's interesting. When I was thinking, 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:07.760 when I first had your letter, before we talked today, 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:09.360 and before I knew that there were sort of these 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:12.560 glimmers of hope on the horizon, I was prepared to 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:14.520 tell you, you know, there's a few different things that 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:16.680 could be going on here. You know, since you're a 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:18.880 month in, maybe they're easing you into the job just 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:22.200 way too slowly. Because sometimes employers will do that because 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:25.040 they think it's easier on the person. Sometimes they do 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:27.559 it because they are being pulled in too many different 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:29.880 directions and they haven't been able to carve out time 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:32.240 to train you yet, or just start delegating work to 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:35.040 you because delegating work to a brand new person actually 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:36.839 takes some time in order to set them up to 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:39.520 do it well, or that it could be that there 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:42.320 actually wasn't enough work to split that job into two, 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:44.280 and so they were filling up your time with this 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:48.760 other work or worst case scenario. And I no longer 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:52.320 think that it sounds like this, fortunately, But the worst 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:54.239 case scenario I had in my head before we talked 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:56.600 was that it could be that whoever hired you had 0:06:56.600 --> 0:06:59.120 done a really bad job of figuring out what your 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:01.200 role would be and conveying it to you in an 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:03.880 accurate way, or that it was accurate at the time, 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:06.240 but something changed since then and no one had talked 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:10.400 to you about it. Yeah, I think. Um. I think 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:13.680 part of the issue as well is splitting the role 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:17.400 into two sort of a new decision for your organization. 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:21.320 And I think through the interview process they were still 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:23.720 trying to figure out what work would be delegated to 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:26.680 what person, and I think that process is still continuing 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:29.680 now in some way, but they're still trying to decide 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:32.080 what I'm supposed to be doing as opposed to what 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:35.560 my colleague is doing. Well, I like that your boss 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:38.040 has acknowledged it to you, and you're not just sort 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:41.040 of doing this completely different job than you're hired for it. 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:42.840 No one is talking about it. So it's good that 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:46.280 it's been acknowledged. It's good that it sounds like at 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:49.320 some point it's going to change. I would like it 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:51.400 a lot better if they were giving you a clearer 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:53.880 timeline so that you knew does that mean two more 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:57.120 weeks of this or does this mean six months of it? Um? 0:07:57.160 --> 0:07:59.120 So I think that the thing to do might be 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:01.240 to talk to your us and try to get a 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:05.640 clear understanding of that. It also maybe like it's great 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:07.560 to try to be accommodating when you're in a new job. 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:09.960 That's totally understandable. You don't want to seem like you're 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:13.400 difficult enough the bat. But it could be that your 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:16.400 boss is thinking, oh, well, she's completely fine with this, 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:18.160 so I can take my time and I can deal 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:20.400 with other priorities, and when I get around to dealing 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:22.200 with this, i'll deal with it. But if it is 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:24.840 months away, then so be it. And so it might 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:26.800 be that you need to be a little bit more 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:29.720 upfront about where you are on all of this so 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:33.320 that it doesn't set for six months, right, Okay, we'll 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:35.280 pause here for a quick break and then we'll be 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:46.080 right back. So I think, um, I mean, if you 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:49.160 just talked to her about it a week ago, I 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:52.760 might give it like another week just to see is 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:55.240 there any movement on it? Does anyone bring it up again? 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:58.040 If not, and it's a full two weeks since the 0:08:58.040 --> 0:08:59.719 two of you last talked about it, then it's co 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:03.839 letely reasonable to talk to her and try to pin 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:06.440 it down and to say, you know, hey, I know 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:08.160 we talked about this being something that you're working and 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:10.360 figuring out. Do you have a timeline in mind for 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:13.640 when that's likely to happen, and then see what she says. 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:17.680 But if she's at all vague, or if she says 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:19.760 anything that makes you think, okay, this is not going 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:22.719 to be taken care of in the next month, it's 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:24.959 pretty reasonable at that point to say, you know, hey, 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:27.319 I want to be transparent with you. I'm completely happy 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:29.360 to help out in a pinch, glad to do it, 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:31.679 but I want to be transparent that I accepted this 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:34.800 job because I was really excited about the responsibilities that 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:37.320 we talked about in the hiring process, and that is 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:39.400 the stuff that I want to spend my time unprofessionally, 0:09:39.520 --> 0:09:42.600 So I'm hoping that we can nail down a timeline 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:47.080 for making that transition. Okay, great, I don't think we've 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:51.079 had sort of a conversation about the exact responsibilities yet, 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:53.240 so I think it might be actually really nice to 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:55.760 sort of sit down and talk about how things are 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:58.920 going and sort of my expectations and their expectations, and 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:03.719 kind of come to understanding of what my responsiblity will 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:06.839 entail in the future and if there are certain steps 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:10.040 that are being taken to sort of alleviate the work 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:12.360 that I didn't not just pay to be doing so 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:16.880 much of. Yes. Absolutely, And it sounds like she does 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:20.599 realize how much of your time that intern where it 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:22.720 is taking up. But if you at all get the 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:26.240 sense that she doesn't be really really clear about that, 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:29.400 because if it's taking up eight percent of your time 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:32.400 and she thinks it's taking up that's a huge difference. 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:35.679 So try to put a numerical value on it if 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:37.440 you can. If you're getting the sense that she does 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:41.120 not realize, Okay, yeah, that's great. Do you want to 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:44.280 talk about what to do if you can't seem to 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:47.520 pin down a timeline and this is going on and on. Yeah, 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:51.960 that would be awesome. Okay, So let's say you have 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:55.160 that conversation and she tells you like, oh, yeah, it's 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:57.400 in progress and it should just be a few weeks, 0:10:57.480 --> 0:10:59.160 and then a few weeks go by and like there's 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:01.480 just no sign of a change, and you maybe check 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:03.480 in again and say that you're just trying to figure 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:05.960 out where she's at with it and you're getting the 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:08.679 sense it's not happening anytime soon, or when you talk 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:11.800 to her initially she says, you know what, realistically, it's 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:13.760 going to be six months before we actually bring out 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:16.000 it in in turn to help with this work. If it 0:11:16.120 --> 0:11:21.120 is something like any of those scenarios, it really is 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:24.440 okay to say again, you know, I think did you 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:26.959 mention in your email to me that you you had 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:29.079 two offers and you accepted this one and turned down 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:32.640 another one. Yeah, that's right. So you could even say that, 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:34.280 if you're comfortable with it, you could say, you know, 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:35.920 I want to be really up front with you, I 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:38.000 accepted this job and turned down at a different offer 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:39.720 because I was so excited about the work that we 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:42.480 talked about in the interview and it really is important 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:44.000 to me to be sing my time on that, and 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:46.360 I want to get a sense from you of how 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:48.920 likely that really is in the next few months or 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:51.240 whether it really is going to stay like it is 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:56.040 right now, because you're trying to get her, You're you're 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:57.960 trying to get her to d two things, to be 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:00.360 honest with you, first of all, to be really th right, 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:03.400 but also to sort of do the thinking that she 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:05.760 should have done quite a while ago, frankly, or at 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:08.160 least to do it in front of you, of of 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:11.040 thinking through, okay, what actually needs to happen to take 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:14.200 care of this and realistically when is that likely to 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:17.880 be or is it likely to be. So you have 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:21.640 that conversation, Let's say you continue to think, oh, this 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:25.240 is not this is not changing anytime soon. I think 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:28.960 at that point you would need to decide, knowing that 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:31.040 it's going to be like this for a while, do 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:32.920 you want to stay or not. And I know that 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:36.160 you mentioned in your letter to me that you're concerned 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:38.400 about leaving over this, and you're worried that it could 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:41.360 be hard to find another job because your job searching 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:44.080 for three months before this job came along. But I 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:45.959 think you also said, this is one of three different 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:47.839 jobs where you got to the final round and you 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:52.000 got this offer and another offer, and that's actually pretty 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:55.440 good for three months of job searching. Yeah, three months 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:57.800 is not a terribly long search. It certainly feels like 0:12:57.800 --> 0:12:59.719 it when you're in the middle of it, but that 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:03.040 relatively speaking, that's not a crazy long time to be searching, 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:05.560 and you've got two offers out of it. So I 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:08.000 would not take that at all as a sign that 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:15.240 you're trapped where you are. Okay, great, that's yes, absolutely. Now, 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:17.960 you also said you were worried that if you did 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:20.520 decide to leave this job over this, that it would 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:23.439 be bad for your resume because your your last job 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:25.120 for two years and the one before that for a 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:27.080 year and a half, and you really want to show 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:31.480 longer term stays. Right, Yeah, that's right. So I think 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:34.400 the thing to know here is that, actually, this is 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:37.880 going to sound counterintuitive, but leaving this job pretty quickly 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:41.640 would actually be fine because if you left it quickly enough, 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:44.280 you could just leave it off your resume. Now, if 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:47.280 you stay for a year and leave, like let's say 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:50.200 you are patient and nothing changes and now you've been 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:52.080 there a year, and you're like, oh crap, I really 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:54.679 do have to leave over this. That is actually harder 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:57.920 because you wouldn't generally leave a whole year off of 0:13:57.920 --> 0:13:59.880 your resume, But if you're just there for a few 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:01.760 you can leave it off and it would be like 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:05.439 it never happened. Okay. I guess my concern with that 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:09.679 would be that my previous positions were I guess you 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:12.000 could say there were more sort of customer service oriented 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:16.520 or more assistant admen oriented, and I'm looking to take 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:20.640 my career in a different direction, sort of um, higher 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:23.480 level authority in some ways, and this is a position 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:26.600 that gives me that I hope once we have these 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:30.760 conversations with my boss um. And I guess my concern 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:32.480 is if I leave quickly and I leave it off 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:36.280 my resume, and I'm not really showing the sort of 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:41.160 growth that this job might show. Yeah, I think you 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:44.680 would sort of be. You'd be job searching from the 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:46.360 same point that you were when your job searching a 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:48.200 couple of months ago. The job started that led you 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:50.640 to this job, and this that job started did get 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:52.480 you a job that was supposed to at least have 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:55.120 more of the responsibility that you're looking for So you 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:57.400 would just be kind of a racing the last month 0:14:57.520 --> 0:14:59.960 or so and and just continuing the job started the 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:04.640 you're already in. Now you might be are you worried that, Yeah, 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:07.280 but you'd be doing it from a period from a 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:09.560 point of unemployment, whereas last time you were job searching 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:11.960 while you're already had a job. Yeah, that's why that 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:15.040 would be part of a concern. So I think there's 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:17.920 two different ways to handle that. You could put this 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:20.960 job on your resume even though you've only been there 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:23.160 a few months, which normally I don't recommend. I mean, 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:26.600 there's when you've only been in a job a short time, 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:28.920 you don't generally have the kind of accomplishments to list 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:31.080 that would be a plus for your resume, and the 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:33.800 short length will raise these questions about why are you 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:36.560 looking to leave already? So in general I tell people 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:38.720 who have already left a job after only a few 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:41.520 months just leave it off entirely. But in your case, 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:44.400 it might be if your job searching while you're still there, 0:15:44.840 --> 0:15:46.320 it might be that you put it on and that 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:48.280 you're just very put it on your resume, and that 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:51.440 you're very upfront about the fact that they had had 0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:53.040 they had had someone leave who had been doing a 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:54.840 lot of this other sort of work and it ended 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:58.240 up getting transferred over to you. And they've been really 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:00.720 clear that they've been trying to change to that, but 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:02.480 it doesn't look like there's a timeline for that, and 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:04.480 so you're you're looking for something that's more like what 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:06.640 you thought you were signing up for, and that happens, 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:10.400 You're not going to be judged for that. Okay, let's 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:12.200 take a quick break and we'll be right back to 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:21.320 talk about this some more. You know. The other thing 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:23.640 is you set in your letter that you just got 0:16:23.680 --> 0:16:26.600 your masters, and a lot of people sort of reset 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:30.000 their careers when they get a new degree. So if 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:31.960 you wanted to just leave it off your resiman while 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:34.440 you looked around, it also wouldn't be that weird that 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:37.040 you might have a couple of months after graduating where 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:40.440 you didn't have anything listed. I mean, frankly, even if 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:42.160 that weren't the case, a gap of a couple of 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:44.520 months is not really a big deal. But school having 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:48.040 just finished school, that makes it even more normal. Oh okay, 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:50.800 I hadn't thought of it that way. Actually, Yeah, so 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:52.840 you could say I was working with these customer service 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:55.120 jobs while I was in school, But now that I 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:59.080 have the degree, I'm looking for work doing X Y Z. Okay. Yeah, 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:03.800 school is actual a super helpful reset in that way. Sometimes. Yeah, 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:06.840 I think I've been just so concerned about the potential 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:10.399 gap that I haven't even been thinking about the school factor. Like, 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:13.400 of course, people who have finished and graduated, they're going 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:16.200 to be looking at their career field and that might 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:18.040 take a little while to sort of break into it. 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:20.560 But that's off my radar because I've been still nervous 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:24.960 about the gaps. Yeah, and also, don't get too worried 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:28.600 about the gap, because it's to the extent that it 0:17:28.640 --> 0:17:30.680 will be an issue at all, and it really might 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:32.359 not be an issue at all. But to the extent 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:34.920 that it is, it's only going to be an issue 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:37.320 this job search because as soon as you get the 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:39.800 next job, you stay there for a while. The next 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:41.920 time your job searching, no one is going to be like, oh, 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:43.920 what's this two month gap from a few years ago. 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:47.119 Like that's when people talk about having gaps on your 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:49.600 ASOMA being a problem, they're not talking about gaps of 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:52.760 a few months. They're talking about like big solid gaps 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:55.440 where like you're out of the workforce for a year 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:57.320 or more and maybe you were in jail during that 0:17:57.359 --> 0:18:01.159 time or something like that. Okay, I see, And you know, 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:03.760 maybe this won't be a problem at all, because once 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:07.960 I have this conversation with my with my supervisor, you know, 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:10.639 things might change. Yeah, I mean that's the hope, right. 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:12.040 The hope is that you won't even have to deal 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:14.760 with a job search because you will talk to your 0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:16.560 boss and it'll go well. But do have in the 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:19.439 back of your head that if it doesn't, here's a 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:21.280 different path that you could use and it would probably 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:25.239 be completely fine. Okay, Yeah, that's that's a lot more 0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:28.520 positive than I expected. It's more positive than I expected 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:31.840 actually before we talked, because I didn't have the information 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:34.560 about the more recent conversations you've had with your boss. 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:37.480 But those are really promising, and I think it really 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:41.920 does sound like the immediate task for you now, after 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:45.840 you give it, say another week, is to just have 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:49.120 like be a little bit more forthright with your manager 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:52.400 that you're feeling some urgency around this. Um you don't 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:54.520 want to be so I mean, you want to be accommodating. 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:56.120 Of course, you want to be a helpful person who's 0:18:56.160 --> 0:18:58.760 easy to work with, but you also want to advocate 0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:00.679 for yourself. And you took the job thinking it was 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:03.480 going to be x and it's been why you're willing 0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:07.200 to help out, but not indefinitely. Yeah, and I will 0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:10.120 say that during the interview process, I did actually have 0:19:10.359 --> 0:19:13.600 a salary negotiation that went well, So that was also 0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:16.399 a first for me. Oh good, congratulations Steve for doing that. 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:20.000 So did you get more than what they originally offered? Yes, excellent, 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:22.800 I like hearing Matt. Yeah, I know. And I did 0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:25.600 use the toops that you had on your blog. Oh good, 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:28.080