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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Kathy and

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Speaker 1: And today we have a very special guest. Kathy and

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Speaker 1: I love this woman. Our friend Sondra Mason is here. Hi, Sandra,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us today.

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Speaker 3: Hey ladies, I love you too, goody to hear you.

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Speaker 2: We are so excited to see you and talk with

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Speaker 2: you today. Sondra. I want to know you live in

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Speaker 2: Hot Atlanta. Hot Lanta. Tell me what's going on there?

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Speaker 3: Well, not a lot. It's not hot, it's very pleasant,

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Speaker 3: very yeah. Whether it's perfect, not hot, not cold, no wind,

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Speaker 3: it's just perfect. It's time for people to visit Hot Lanta.

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Speaker 1: April May best time of the year.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, Sondra, we got to claw the elephant in

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Speaker 2: the room. You know, I'm going to do it because

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Speaker 2: that's what I do.

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Speaker 3: Hey, w's elephant kat?

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Speaker 1: Well, here she goes.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we can talk about your f bombs. We can,

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Speaker 2: but I know I'm not gonna I'm not gonna do

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Speaker 2: that to you. I'm gonna make it worse. I'm going

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Speaker 2: to ask you about your daughter's wedding. Well, please settle

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Speaker 2: this once and for all. You've got two fab yeous daughters.

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Speaker 2: Settle it for us about the marriage of your daughter

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Speaker 2: that took place why we were on a golden pickled bachelor.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, do it, Okay.

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Speaker 3: Not a problem. I gotta tell you, guys, I got

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Speaker 3: so much flak from people, but who no one knows

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Speaker 3: really the backstory. So let me first of all give

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Speaker 3: you a little bit of backstory. My daughter is fifty

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Speaker 3: one years old, her hubby is fifty three or fifty four.

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Speaker 3: He's a grandfather. This is each for each of them,

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Speaker 3: their second marriage. So hopefully that he helps to let

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Speaker 3: people know it's not like she was twenty something and

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Speaker 3: she had white down and you know, six bridesmaids and

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Speaker 3: all the who you know, it was a very very

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Speaker 3: small affair. But here's the thing, as you know, because

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Speaker 3: it was said on air that my daughter said to me, Mom,

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Speaker 3: I've got my guy. You go get yours number one.

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Speaker 3: What what America didn't hear is that my son in

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Speaker 3: law because he's such a great guy, he said, Mom,

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Speaker 3: he said our marriage, No, he said, our ceremony is

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Speaker 3: eight minutes. Our marriage is a lifetime. He said, celebrate

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Speaker 3: the marriage. Go and he practically shut me.

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Speaker 2: Another Hallmark card here, Okay, yeah.

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Speaker 3: He said, and he said. They were both like, if

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Speaker 3: you don't go, we're going to be pretty upset with you.

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Speaker 3: So guess what I did. I went. And they were

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Speaker 3: so proud of me for doing that, form making the

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Speaker 3: decision for going ahead and going and.

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Speaker 2: So wait, just to be clear, Sandra, this was not

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Speaker 2: like an expensive church wedding mom being there. It was

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Speaker 2: It really was a very small affair that your daughter

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Speaker 2: insisted that you go on the Golden Bachelor. This wasn't

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Speaker 2: your decision, as much of it was your your daughters.

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Speaker 2: Is that correct?

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Speaker 3: Daughter and son in law?

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Speaker 1: I mean, can I chime in? This guy sounds great?

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Speaker 3: Oh god, you guys just don't know. I mean, she

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Speaker 3: was on a trip here recently. He called a check

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Speaker 3: on me and he was he misses her, and so

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Speaker 3: he thought he'd called me and he.

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Speaker 2: Can I just say Bachelor Nation for all you listen

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Speaker 2: to this podcast to me the what is your daughter's name? Sandra?

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Speaker 3: Her name is Evanie evev Evany and Evan Evan.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I love it is that, you know what? Evane

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Speaker 2: sounds like. She found her perfect match. I don't know

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Speaker 2: about you, guys, but I'm envious. Who cares a wedding

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Speaker 2: ceremony is like ten minutes. It's like the life together.

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Speaker 3: Oh, let me correct and you're right. Yeah, it was

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Speaker 3: a couple of people. It was so fast. It was

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Speaker 3: Harley Worth. Let's put it this way. If I weren't

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Speaker 3: even on the Golden Bachelor, I probably wouldn't have flown

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Speaker 3: for it. It wasn't that big a deal.

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Speaker 2: Sondra. What was faster your relationship with Gary or your

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Speaker 2: daughter's wedding.

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Speaker 3: That's a toss up. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Sondra hung out for quite some time on this sh

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Speaker 1: so envious you and I both, Sandra, we left together.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, can I just say no?

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Speaker 2: Can I just say? Yeah? I got to go on

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Speaker 2: the fancy extravaganza trip. Oh no, wait, that was you guys.

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Speaker 2: You went to the Santa Monica pair.

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Speaker 1: That was fun.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it was real fun with the hair wind

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Speaker 3: blown and the water milting, the makeup.

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Speaker 2: And did you go on did you go on the

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Speaker 2: Ferris Wield? Did you on the what's it called the

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Speaker 2: roller roller coaster?

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Speaker 1: My hands were straight up in the iris.

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Speaker 2: Did you?

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Speaker 3: Did you know? That roller coaster was not what you

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Speaker 3: call death threading.

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Speaker 1: It was kind of a cars remember the bumper car.

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Speaker 3: And the bumber car, the pirate ship or whatever it's called.

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Speaker 1: You know, yeah, all right, whoa, it was fun, it

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Speaker 1: was I.

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Speaker 3: Had more fun throwing balls at the targets and winning

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Speaker 3: a doll than I did.

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Speaker 2: This is yall, this is old. This is what old

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Speaker 2: folks do. We we like to go to amusement parks

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Speaker 2: and throw stuffed animals.

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Speaker 1: I mean really, it was a boardwalk and we were

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Speaker 1: playing games. It is fun I take for grandkids. I

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Speaker 1: always had fun doing that. It was fun.

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Speaker 2: So are you dating? Are you dating? Or did Hylan

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Speaker 2: from the Chippendale's Ruined Katie?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 2: He was.

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Speaker 3: He's a nice young man. You guys just don't know

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Speaker 3: because I had time to talk with him, and he's

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Speaker 3: going places. He's No, he's not just a body. No,

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Speaker 3: he's a smacher.

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Speaker 2: Rather day him or Steve Harvey.

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Speaker 3: Well, Steve's married. So if they weren't married, oh, well

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Speaker 3: what do you think? I mean, Steve's more age appropriate.

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Speaker 1: I love Steve.

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Speaker 3: He's a character.

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Speaker 2: Did you have fun on.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we had fun.

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Speaker 1: I struggled with a couple of the questions and I

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Speaker 1: was a little bit embarrassed. But I have the time

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Speaker 1: of my life just being with all you guys.

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Speaker 3: You know, it was fun before and the after the

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Speaker 3: show that was, you know, getting into some folks I

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Speaker 3: hadn't seen in a while. Yes, feeling that this might

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Speaker 3: be our last Tura, at least for a long while.

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Speaker 2: Never Sondra, never say the last No, I know.

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Speaker 3: But for a while.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, Edith reached out to me yesterday and said she's

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Speaker 1: feeling the same way she goes Susan. There's no date

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Speaker 1: in the future. I'm hoping for the Golden Bachelorette that

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Speaker 1: we all get to come back. And I said, we're

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Speaker 1: all going to be bachelorettes.

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Speaker 3: Maybe judge a contest, yes, something, something, you know something, you.

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Speaker 2: All go and judge the contest. You know what I'm

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Speaker 2: doing and looking at them, I'm getting the names and

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Speaker 2: the numbers of the rejects, and they're all going to

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Speaker 2: be mine.

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Speaker 3: You know. Speaking of which, I know a guy who

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Speaker 3: might be Casey. He's gone through the casting process and

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Speaker 3: he hasn't been given the final I don't know if

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Speaker 3: I should tell the producers that I know him or not.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's critical.

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Speaker 1: But remember us though we had to wait such a

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Speaker 1: long time. You don't know. They don't like to tell

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Speaker 1: you too far in advance, and forget that.

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Speaker 2: Let's get this guy's name. What's wrong with you?

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Speaker 3: But he lives in Atlanta, y'all.

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Speaker 1: I'll move yeah, we're not those people that say we'll

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Speaker 1: never move, We're sure we're gone and not.

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Speaker 3: He's six foot five, Kathy, What do you.

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Speaker 1: Mean, Kathy? What about Susan? I thought we were friend.

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Speaker 2: He's tall and I yeah, I love you, Sandra, Thank

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Speaker 2: you everybody girl.

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Speaker 1: Sandra, since you've gotten home, yes, do you feel the

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Speaker 1: same way about what you're looking for in a man

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Speaker 1: or a partner?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Pretty much absolutely. You know, being on the show

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Speaker 3: didn't change my desires and just you know, maybe a

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Speaker 3: little more motivated.

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Speaker 2: Oh you're more motivated?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean I got a taste of what

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Speaker 3: it might be like to date and meet a man,

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Speaker 3: and so now i'm you know, my radar is a

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Speaker 3: little stronger than it was before we went on the show.

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Speaker 1: She's ready, guys, she is, She's ready.

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Speaker 2: But wait, can I just say as the world now knows,

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Speaker 2: they all know our age because it was plastered on

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Speaker 2: the TV screen every week. Sandra is seventy five. She

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Speaker 2: will be seventy six. I think in July it is

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Speaker 2: your birthday. You look fabulous, may I say? But I

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Speaker 2: want to know you were one of the older women

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Speaker 2: on the Bachelor. You know, they went as young as

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Speaker 2: sixty and you're seventy at the time, was seventy five.

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Speaker 2: That's a fifteen year age difference. Talk to me just

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Speaker 2: a little bit about how that felt you, because you

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Speaker 2: look fabulous, you're fit. I'm just curious how you felt

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Speaker 2: being a seventy five year old on the show.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, let me just correct you. I wasn't just

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Speaker 3: one of the oldest. I was the oldest. I was

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Speaker 3: older than she rolls her eyes. I was older than

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Speaker 3: anyone at the mansion, the crew, the producers, the caterers.

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Speaker 3: I was the oldest person walking the soil there. Okay,

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Speaker 3: how did I feel? No big deal. First of all,

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Speaker 3: no one knew my age, so you know, it was

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Speaker 3: not a big deal. And it's good to feel young

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Speaker 3: and to be in shape and all that, so no

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Speaker 3: one questions me, you know, you know, no one even knew.

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Speaker 3: I think it was Edith who asked me about my

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Speaker 3: daughters one day, you know, ask me about my kids,

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Speaker 3: and I told her two daughters. She said how old

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Speaker 3: are they? And I said they're fifty one and thirty nine,

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Speaker 3: And she said what She said, well, how old are you?

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Speaker 3: That's when I told her I was seventy five.

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Speaker 1: She said, what I remember when you told me I

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Speaker 1: thought you were lying?

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Speaker 2: Who would possibly lie about their age? I'm sixty, I'm sixty.

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Speaker 3: Well, I just don't still any kind of way, Cath.

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Speaker 3: It's it's, it is what it is, and I'm I'm

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Speaker 3: glad to be walking this earth.

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Speaker 2: But well, and you're an amen. But I guess you

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Speaker 1: I absolutely would. But my question was would you refuse

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Speaker 3: I you know, it's not like like you say, it's

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Speaker 3: You know said houses. Okay, anyway, it's another subject.

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Speaker 2: That they come from your dms. Where did you meet them?

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Speaker 3: Let's see two from my dms?

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Speaker 3: He likes us Cathy, and then one was bumped into

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Speaker 3: Should I whisper?

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Speaker 3: Good looking guy, articulate, financially secure? Uh, granddad? You know

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Speaker 3: I found myself talking and over talking because I didn't

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Speaker 3: But let me let me tell you why, because get

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Speaker 3: Wasn't wasn't from yesterday. Yes, this was something wrong.

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Speaker 2: It's called Okay, I'm sorry. Can I just do a

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Speaker 2: public service and now? Yes, ps A brush your teeth,

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Speaker 1: No, sometimes it's a condition and they can't even help

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Speaker 2: You know, or it's a dentist. A dentist.

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Speaker 3: No, it's more than a dentist.

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Speaker 1: It's like, what's sad is it's sad that you couldn't

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Speaker 1: I mean, and it's not my palm.

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Speaker 2: I can't guys, Hi, I'm Sondra. Something died inside of you.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I'm seriously, people, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, but I agree.

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Speaker 3: I have a nickname for you too well and Landers

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Speaker 3: and deer Abby lid your podcast, you know when you're

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Speaker 3: answering questions and you guys are hilarious. And that's all

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Speaker 3: And I'm telling you, guys were sitting across the table,

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Speaker 2: And Okay, Sandra, that's clearly your worst dak. Can we

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Speaker 2: get off that subject? Give me your best date story. Please.

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Speaker 3: Oh gosh, guys, the best date was just a guy

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Speaker 3: He just wasn't for me. Well, I think he won.

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Speaker 2: What's your young son? Tell us? Tell money?

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Speaker 2: If you need fifty something.

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Speaker 3: Fifty something, come on, that's twenty years now.

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Speaker 3: Thank you? I might be good for a rolling the hay.

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Speaker 1: I was just gonna say he'd be fun for a minute.

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Speaker 2: That's all. You're easy, Susan.

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Speaker 3: Nothing.

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Speaker 1: Well, I get it, I get it.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You know what. We all

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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, what a coop? Why do you think

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Speaker 2: No, A cougar is someone who dates men younger than she.

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Speaker 3: Not just younger, but extremely you know different U two

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Speaker 1: Well here's the Sondra. We're happy. At least you got

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Speaker 1: We have a podcast each other an Abby, that's right,

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Speaker 1: that's right, Abby.

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Speaker 2: God knows, your ideal date was not kissing that guy.

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Speaker 3: Something as simple and stupid as taking a walk. Literally,

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Speaker 3: you guys, I like that dancing. I love to dance

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Speaker 2: Just wait, you don't need three houses?

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Speaker 3: Not no again, I don't want to have to clean

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Speaker 2: If you can afford three houses, you're not cleaning any

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Speaker 1: I have a good question for you. What advice do

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Speaker 2: Wait wait do you mean the men going on.

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Speaker 3: For which?

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Speaker 1: What are you going on?

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Speaker 3: Going on this show?

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Speaker 3: Well? I would say, act like you're extremely happy to

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Speaker 3: be there, happy to meet the bachelorette. Please, you know,

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Speaker 3: Yourself with more energy. Just give it more energy than

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Speaker 3: you have on a normal date. You know in your hometown, Susan,

439
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Speaker 3: what do you what would you do?

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Speaker 2: I'm curious what your advice is.

441
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Speaker 1: Exactly what I did? I just am who I am?

442
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Speaker 2: Yeah, just be me.

443
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Speaker 1: I am a pretty positiz like that.

444
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Speaker 3: You've got charisma coming out of your well.

445
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Speaker 1: But you know what, I noticed that Gary gave each

446
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Speaker 1: of us on our three minutes his undivided attention. He

447
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Speaker 1: paid attention, and I think that was really important.

448
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Speaker 3: He did he and do you know who else did that?

449
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Speaker 1: Joey?

450
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Speaker 3: Joey was very good at that. But when you're vying,

451
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Speaker 3: when you're in a pool of people and you're vying

452
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Speaker 3: for that woman's attention, and in this case, you got

453
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Speaker 3: to make her feel like she is just.

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Speaker 2: You yeah, yeah, yeah, right, I'm sorry. I'm back on Joey.

455
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Speaker 2: When you thought, Joey, you can say and do whatever

456
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Speaker 2: the hell you want, it's gonna go well for you.

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Speaker 2: Let's be honest.

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Speaker 3: Well, okay, you're right, but you know these guys vying

459
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Speaker 3: for one lady and having to, you know, work around

460
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Speaker 3: the other guys that you know that that might give

461
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Speaker 3: you the edge for the first one on one date

462
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Speaker 3: or the something something whatever.

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Speaker 1: Do you think it's going to be as easy for

464
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Speaker 1: the men as it was for us? You know, see

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Speaker 1: how we all bonded. We were happy for the next

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Speaker 1: person to have a date. We were excited for them.

467
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Speaker 1: Do you think the manners are going to be as.

468
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Speaker 3: Yes with limits. One, they're older gentlemen, so yes, they're

469
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Speaker 3: going to be a little more sophisticated and not ready

470
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Speaker 3: to bump chests and thump each other.

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Speaker 1: I think they started what it was it fifty seven's.

472
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Speaker 3: But they're not twenties and thirties, dog true, okay.

473
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Speaker 2: And two, I just think they like fun.

474
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Speaker 3: The men are just going to have a little more

475
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Speaker 3: respect for one another. I would like to think that

476
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Speaker 3: that's what they're going to do in their fifties. And

477
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Speaker 3: sixties and maybe older.

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Speaker 1: Come on, they have to have to shit together by then, right.

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Speaker 2: Wait, I have a question. Saundras had dates and Susan

480
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Speaker 2: you and I. Well, Susan, you've had a couple, but

481
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Speaker 2: I've had no dates, So I'm curious. Sondro, give me

482
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Speaker 2: some dating advice. What you got for me? Seriously, because

483
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Speaker 2: it's not working for me.

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Speaker 3: In question, Well, one, you guys are working two dog

485
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Speaker 3: line Mark. Okay, I'm just saying you're working Susan's Susan's

486
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Speaker 3: West Coast, East Coast, Alaska, Antarctica, Susan's every dog on weird,

487
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Speaker 3: so she doesn't have time for dating. I get yeah,

488
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Speaker 3: But you know, I think, Kathy, you just got to

489
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Speaker 3: be in the right place at the right time. You

490
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Speaker 3: just got to keep living life, keep going whatever your

491
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Speaker 3: your interest in hobbies are, Kathy, just keep doing it

492
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Speaker 3: because you'll bump into somebody and again, I know you've

493
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Speaker 3: put out the feelies. Your friends know you want to guy,

494
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Speaker 3: so something will happen. You know your friends will think

495
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Speaker 3: of someone or you're really I'm.

496
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Speaker 2: Not really worried. I'm really not worried. I just was.

497
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Speaker 2: It was more like Susan and I were talking. We're

498
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Speaker 2: both strong personalities and that's not everybody's cup of tea.

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Speaker 1: So we answer questions all the time from our fans

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Speaker 1: that send them in, and we want you to be

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Speaker 1: a part of this. Will be okay with that right now? Sure? Yeah, Kathy,

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Speaker 1: you want to read the first all right?

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Speaker 2: So okay, Sondra, here we go. Hello there, Olivia. Here.

504
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Speaker 2: I am a mom to an adorable little two year

505
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Speaker 2: old boy, and being a mom has been the best

506
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Speaker 2: thing in the world. The not so fun part has

507
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 2: been the relationship with my husband. Since we had the baby,

508
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 2: we have been so disconnected and we hardly ever have

509
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Speaker 2: any intimate time or alone time anymore. We haven't had

510
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 2: a date night in years, and it feels like he

511
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Speaker 2: doesn't really put in any effort when we're on the couch,

512
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Speaker 2: just as too, when the baby is sleeping, he's just

513
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 2: on his phone or not really engaging with me. I

514
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Speaker 2: know people say the first year is tough, but we're

515
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Speaker 2: two years in and it's not getting any better. I

516
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Speaker 2: recommended therapy, but he doesn't want to go. I'd love

517
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Speaker 2: any advice you gals have for me on how to

518
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Speaker 2: get my marriage back on track after having a kid,

519
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Speaker 2: and how to spice it up. We want more kids,

520
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Speaker 2: so we're going to have to have sex again eventually.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for any help you can provide. What do

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Speaker 2: you think, Sandra.

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Speaker 3: Think there's a luck unsaid there? But I mean maybe

524
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Speaker 3: she needs to spice it up. Come in the room,

525
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Speaker 3: sit on the couch with him with some pasties on

526
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Speaker 3: or some I don't.

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Speaker 1: Know, dress it up, baby, dress it up and get

528
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Speaker 1: his attention his Wake him up.

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Speaker 3: And he'll say, whoa you know. And if you've got

530
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Speaker 3: to be aggressive, touch him, love him, stroke him, do

531
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Speaker 3: whatever you got to do to make it happen. You've

532
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 3: got to out of that slump of you know, he

533
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 3: may be tired because the kid wore him out, like

534
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 3: the kid wears you out. But where's her out? I

535
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Speaker 3: should say, But make it happen. If he's not making

536
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Speaker 3: it happen, someone has to. So let it be you

537
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Speaker 3: let it be.

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Speaker 1: We all heard her say. She mentioned counseling, So that's

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Speaker 1: telling me that they've talked about this, that she obviously

540
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Speaker 1: complained about it a little bit, like why are we not?

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Speaker 1: Could it be that he's in another place? I mean,

542
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: there's that What do you mean in another place. We're

543
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: not interested anymore.

544
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 2: Could be Hey, guys came out.

545
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 1: I like the pasty part myself.

546
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Speaker 2: But oh Jesus, girlfriend, how about some negliges with the stilettos.

547
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Speaker 2: I think you're both overlooking. We both have been parents

548
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 2: a long time. I remember what it was like a

549
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 2: two year old. Kids are exhausting, you know what, you

550
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 2: know what it's like. She rushed from marriage and having

551
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 2: the child to therapy. How about this, Olivia, get a babysitter,

552
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 2: surprise your husband, go to the motel six down the road.

553
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 2: Whatever the point is, leave the child with your parents,

554
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,959
Speaker 2: a babysitter somebody, go have a night with your husband.

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Speaker 2: This is the thing people never want to say. A

556
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 2: good marriage takes work. And children are as much as

557
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 2: we love our children, they do put you know, a

558
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 2: fracture or not fracture, but you know, there are a

559
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 2: lot of work and they can make a marriage a

560
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 2: little bit tougher. So absolutely take some time.

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Speaker 3: What do you think that a counselor worth their Saltwood

562
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Speaker 3: had suggested that already?

563
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Speaker 2: I mean literally, well the husband Olivia's husband doesn't want

564
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 2: to go to counseling, and you.

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Speaker 3: Know what, Oh, I'm sorry I missed it, Okay.

566
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he probably doesn't want to go counseling because

567
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, I'm hungry, let's go buy out

568
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 2: the grocery store. I mean, let's start with first things first.

569
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Speaker 2: Give the guy some attention.

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Speaker 1: She is and it's two years and he's not paying

571
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Speaker 1: attention back. So one, you can try to spice it up.

572
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Speaker 1: But if that doesn't work. And I've not got what

573
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Speaker 1: you were saying, that kids exhaust you. He's it wor

574
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Speaker 1: all day. She's the one that is exhausted. And she

575
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: finally gets some time yes with her husband, you know,

576
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Speaker 1: and he's not paying attention.

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Speaker 2: It's a problem for man. You know what Susan's saying.

578
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 2: He's got a little bit on the side.

579
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Speaker 1: No, I'm not saying that.

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Speaker 2: Do you think he does? I hear that.

581
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Speaker 3: No.

582
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Speaker 2: Well, she says her marriage is not on track, and

583
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Speaker 2: she said, you know what's interesting here, she said, we

584
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 2: want more children. We're going to have to have sex again.

585
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Speaker 2: Doesn't sound like she's so interested in having sex either,

586
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 2: which maybe that's the problem.

587
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Speaker 1: Maybe No, no, no, Kathy, she wants it. He's not

588
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: paying attention to her. He's sitting beside her what a

589
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: great time to touch each other. And he's not interested.

590
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: He's on his phone, he's doing other things.

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Speaker 2: I know, but I'm just going by again. Guys, all

592
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Speaker 2: we know is by what Olivia's writing. She said, we

593
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Speaker 2: want more kids, so we're going to have to have

594
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Speaker 2: sex again eventually. Maybe she's not as forward with him

595
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Speaker 2: as maybe she's saying she is. I don't know. We

596
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 2: don't know.

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00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: I wouldn't bring any more kids in them.

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00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 2: No, No, well yeah, I think they got to, you know.

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00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: I think I'm sorry Olivia.

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Speaker 2: I know, but don't you think people think marriage is

601
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 2: gonna they jump in and think marriage is going to

602
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 2: be easy. I think it's hard. I mean, my daughter

603
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 2: just had her first child. She and her husband and

604
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 2: that child just had. She's adorable. She's had her first birthday.

605
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 2: I can see where they don't have as much time

606
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 2: for each other right now, because all their waking hours

607
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 2: are spent. Both of them work full time. They come home,

608
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 2: there's grocery shopping, you know, work to finish.

609
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: The first years hard, there's two years in. He should

610
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: come around. Maybe he just doesn't like you know, affection,

611
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: Maybe he's that guy. We don't know.

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00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 2: We maybe don't know what would you do?

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00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 3: Soandra, you know, maybe o Libya needs to go to

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00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 3: Kamsing by herself at first wait good point and and

615
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 3: maybe her gun or I don't know. I just.

616
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 2: So Susan, I thought someone was going to sigut out

617
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Speaker 2: some sex toys.

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00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: Hair well sexy outfit was the start, I mean, or

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Speaker 1: you know me, I would take the womanizer and sit

620
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: next to him and do me. I mean, hello, you

621
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: don't want to help.

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00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 3: In other words, he needs stimulation somehow, some way she

623
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 3: knows him best, so she would know. Olivia, hopefully you

624
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 3: would know the way that the best way to tantalize him,

625
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 3: to get him off the couch, get him off the phone,

626
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 3: get him off.

627
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 2: The or get him on the couch, if you know

628
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 2: what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Whatever you got to do, Olivia. But it sounds like you, Olivia,

630
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 3: have to take the first step here.

631
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Speaker 1: Yeah, take charge, girlfriend, take charge.

632
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 2: You know, I just I got feel say, I know

633
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 2: you know what I hate I hate sound. It sounds

634
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 2: like this marriage is in trouble. And I just keep thinking,

635
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 2: you know, you have a two year old who need

636
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 2: mommy and daddy, and come on, people, figure out a way.

637
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 2: I hope they will, Olivia, I wish you and your

638
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 2: husband the very best. I hope you guys figure it out.

639
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: Because the sex outfit and the babysitter start there.

640
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 3: Absolutely the babysitter, yes, you can get the baby awake.

641
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 2: Don't do the babysitter though.

642
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: No.

643
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 3: All right, Anne and Abby, you two.

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Speaker 1: Sander, we love you, We're so glad that you joined us,

645
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: and we have to make some plans for all of

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00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: us to see each other. Well, that does it for

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Speaker 1: this episode of Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour. Thank you

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Speaker 1: to our lovely best buddy over here, Sandra for joining

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00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: us today. We really have fun talking to you no

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00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: matter where it is or when it is.

651
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Speaker 2: It is inviting me on here and Sandra, you gave

652
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Speaker 2: us some great advice. You always have words of wisdom

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Speaker 2: and we love getting to catch up with you. More

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Speaker 2: to come soon. Thank you all so much for joining us.

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