WEBVTT - “A LIFE CHANGING BUS RIDE” 

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<v Speaker 1>What's up man? How you doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty good yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I am trying my best. I am having

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<v Speaker 1>new epiphanies about life every single day, some of them

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<v Speaker 1>contradicting each other. Sometimes it feels like, you know, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I have like a life epiphany, and

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<v Speaker 1>then tomorrow I have the opposite one. In the day

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<v Speaker 1>after that, I have the original one. And it's like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going in complete circles. But maybe maybe I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>going in circles. I'm trying to, like with words describe

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<v Speaker 1>how I see this visually, Like you know, I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>going in circles, but the circles are moving a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit to the right every time, So it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>loop that event Yeah, it's like a loop that just

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<v Speaker 1>event that goes eventually moves forward in that way. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of visualize what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I have different epiphanies every single day, so the

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<v Speaker 2>light is always seeming to throw a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a loop at you.

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<v Speaker 1>I see that you are not a plus one area code.

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<v Speaker 1>Where are you calling from?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm calling from Australia. I moved to Australia about three

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<v Speaker 2>years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, are you American.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I'm from Kansas City.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool. Where and where in Australia did you move?

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<v Speaker 2>I moved to Sydney, so one of the most expensive cities.

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<v Speaker 3>In the world.

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<v Speaker 1>And why did you move from Why did you move

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<v Speaker 1>from Kansas City, which is not one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>expensive cities in the world to sid.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm actually like one of your other callers that

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<v Speaker 2>called it like a like probably like ten podcasts ago

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<v Speaker 2>get the whole cool work steme and I ended up

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<v Speaker 2>in Alaster and then I just started traveling around the

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<v Speaker 2>you asked working at different places, different resorts, and that

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<v Speaker 2>led me to eventually you know then like a few

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<v Speaker 2>other people on here and been like, oh, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to go to Australia. So I ended up in Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a chef, so I've been cooking for about three

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<v Speaker 2>years out here.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool. Very cool. You said you were like one of

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<v Speaker 1>the other callers that did the what thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know the caller who went up to what

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<v Speaker 2>is that Yellowstone and he was just working out there

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, so that same website. I went and got

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<v Speaker 2>a job off when I was twenty one, so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>well twenty seven, so I'm thirty four and now and

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<v Speaker 2>I've been doing the whole traveling thinking about eight years.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, how's that going for you? Because I think a

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<v Speaker 1>lot about what a fully nomadic life would be like,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've been in periods of time in my life

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<v Speaker 1>in which I felt very nomadic, and I'm curious, eight years,

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<v Speaker 1>how does that work out for you? How are you

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<v Speaker 1>feeling about it?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Man, you kind of uh, you really get used

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<v Speaker 2>to traveling and just keeping the minimum amount of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Like my whole life up until these last three years

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<v Speaker 2>could fit in three or four suitcases and I would

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<v Speaker 2>just get up and go. I'm driven across the US,

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<v Speaker 2>like four times I used to live in Oregon, drove

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<v Speaker 2>down to Florida, like the very tip of Florida, that

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<v Speaker 2>work down there. You really, uh, you really get to

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<v Speaker 2>know outside of yourself that a lot of people won't

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<v Speaker 2>know because they're never alone so much and celebrating holidays

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<v Speaker 2>and all that stuff. You really got to grow a

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<v Speaker 2>family outside of your family.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have a family.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually just found out my girlfriend and here in Australia,

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<v Speaker 2>is pregnant.

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<v Speaker 1>No way, yeah, so are you are you go? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you having the baby?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? We are? Wait so I actually it was a

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<v Speaker 2>whole spill. I just quit my job last week and

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<v Speaker 2>I have another job lined up, and uh, pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>two days after I quit my job, she's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pregnant and we're moving about eight hours away from

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<v Speaker 2>Sydney right now, So we got a whole.

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<v Speaker 1>Where are you going to move?

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<v Speaker 2>We're headed up to Balina. I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 2>made it up to like the Byron Bay, Ballina area

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<v Speaker 2>while you were here.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but I heard about Byron Bays. That's like where

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<v Speaker 1>all the no, I'm thinking of Bondi Beach, that's where

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<v Speaker 1>all the like tours go to die.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, Byron Bay is also another popular spot. It's

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<v Speaker 2>where Chris employd and Hugh Jackman, they all live out there.

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<v Speaker 1>And so this, uh, this lovely lady. Did you meet

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<v Speaker 1>her in Australia?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, so we actually met on the apps. I

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<v Speaker 2>know a lot of people have a lot of trouble

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<v Speaker 2>about meeting people on the apps, but it's it's more

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<v Speaker 2>of a persistence game and a numbers game than it

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<v Speaker 2>is you know, finding somebody right away. You know how

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<v Speaker 2>many the apps for a long time?

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<v Speaker 1>How many appdates did you go on until you met

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<v Speaker 1>your girlfriends.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh whoosh, Jesus, probably over one hundred easily over wow?

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<v Speaker 1>Really over one hundred?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah yeah, But I'm I'm an old man, so

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<v Speaker 2>I've been using them. It's pretty much they came out

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<v Speaker 2>and I've been in different cities.

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<v Speaker 1>And what was it about this one that made it

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<v Speaker 1>different from the other one hundred?

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<v Speaker 2>She was just pretty awesome. Like, honestly, all the girl

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<v Speaker 2>all the app dates that I've been on in Australia

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<v Speaker 2>have been pretty fruitful, like updated somebody that I've pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much met every single time. But she was she was

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<v Speaker 2>just different man, Like I didn't have to be stone

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<v Speaker 2>to be around her and like all that stuff. So

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<v Speaker 2>it just kind of really worked out when I first

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<v Speaker 2>met her. We met on Australia Day and we ended

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<v Speaker 2>up hanging out for like six and a half hours.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, what is Australia Date? You guys don't just have

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<v Speaker 1>like Hinge and Tinder.

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<v Speaker 2>Australia Day. It's like, uh, it's a holiday. So Australia

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<v Speaker 2>Day is like Independence Day or like Columbus Day.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh oh oh oh oh wait you met up on

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<v Speaker 1>Australia Day. Yeah, okay, I thought you said you met

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<v Speaker 1>her on a website called Australia Date.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we we actually met on Hinge.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay you understand, Okay, you understand. You understand where that

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<v Speaker 1>misunderstanding came from, right, Yeah, for sure, I was like, what,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess there's a website where you can just date Australian.

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<v Speaker 1>What was the other The other thing you said is

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<v Speaker 1>you said that you felt like you had to be

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<v Speaker 1>high to be around some of these people. Tell me

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<v Speaker 1>more about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I used to actually this year stop smoking weed

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<v Speaker 2>as well. So, uh, I was just stoned all the time, man,

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<v Speaker 2>and like just being around people, and I felt like

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<v Speaker 2>that wasn't the only way I could communicate with people

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<v Speaker 2>because I was constantly stoned, and maybe nobody would like

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<v Speaker 2>me if I was constantly stoned. And yeah, the first

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<v Speaker 2>time I was ever around her, I just wasn't stoned,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was it was a real eye opener. It

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<v Speaker 2>was an epissan if you, like you said where I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, okay, I can do this, m m. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Was as anxious?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it was it that you just kind of felt

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<v Speaker 1>a constant state of anxiety and weed was like the

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<v Speaker 1>only way to get past it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And actually, uh, once I stopped smoking and I

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<v Speaker 2>got away from the weed. Actually the anxiety actually went down.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so the weave.

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<v Speaker 2>Was actually making me really paranoid, at which I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>notice because you know, I'm waking up smoking three or

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<v Speaker 2>four bulls, going to work on my breaks, smoke some more,

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<v Speaker 2>smoke some more before I go to sleep. So I

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<v Speaker 2>was just like in constant marijuana hayes.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmmm hm. Yes, what what made you want to quit? Recently?

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<v Speaker 2>I ran a marathon. I ran a marathon, and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>in order to prepare for the marathon, I just cut back,

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<v Speaker 2>cut back to back, and I, uh, before I had

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<v Speaker 2>a kate, This is before I knew I was having

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<v Speaker 2>a kid. I just didn't want to like smoke around

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<v Speaker 2>my kid or you know, be a stoner. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>care about like smoking weed every so often or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>like that, but like I just didn't want to be

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<v Speaker 2>like a stone dad. M So it all worked out, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was. It was. It was more so that I

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<v Speaker 2>was smoking nicotine with the marijuana, and I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>play it away from that. So yeah, yeah, exactly, I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to get away from that. I always told myself

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't smoke nicotine. But you know, we do things

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<v Speaker 2>in life that we said we wouldn't do.

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<v Speaker 1>How long was your weed career prior to.

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<v Speaker 2>Quit, probably like thirteen years?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, every day?

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<v Speaker 2>Initially, no, but once so I moved out to Oregon

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<v Speaker 2>when I was about twenty three, and the weed is

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<v Speaker 2>so cheap out there and it's so good that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it just kind of let me down a rabbit hole

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<v Speaker 2>and smoking more and more blah blah blah. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>been it's been quite a journey.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The part about anxietyety like you smoke weed to alleviate anxiety,

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<v Speaker 1>but then you find that this weird converse way. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like you get high and then you get more anxious

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<v Speaker 1>and more parentally exactly. But and I and I wonder,

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<v Speaker 1>and again this is not the Andrew Huberman podcast, but

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<v Speaker 1>I do wonder, is like, is weed making me is

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<v Speaker 1>like a self fulfilling prophecy, where like weed makes me

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<v Speaker 1>anxious on the days that I am not smoking as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's why I was fine in too. And it

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<v Speaker 2>is because they say, like marijuana is an addictive and

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<v Speaker 2>that was like in you know, the nineteen seventies where

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<v Speaker 2>the weed wasn't thirty six percent and thc and stuff

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<v Speaker 2>like that, and you know, it's just a lot more accessible,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more open. It's not what it used to be.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think as it becomes stronger, it does become

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<v Speaker 2>more addictive, especially you're young and you're using. I definitely

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<v Speaker 2>think that your body can get like dependent on having that.

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<v Speaker 2>It may not be you know, uh, as physically of

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<v Speaker 2>a bad addiction as like heroin or other opie images

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<v Speaker 2>stuff like that, but like the mental addiction is what

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<v Speaker 2>I think gets a lot of people in strays, keeps

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<v Speaker 2>on from quitting and stuff like that, because it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It was very hard, and a large part of it,

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<v Speaker 2>like I told you, was the nicotine for me. And

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<v Speaker 2>then you're smoking blunts and stuff like that, then you're

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<v Speaker 2>definitely getting like that constant like nicotine high to where

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<v Speaker 2>you're not even noticing, and uh, it would be definitely

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<v Speaker 2>a lot harder for you to quit.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm hmm. Have you replaced it with anything else,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's something negative or positive.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, honestly, I just been focusing on life, being able

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<v Speaker 2>to run longer, like I said, I've been during marathon.

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<v Speaker 2>So this year I'm training for an iron Man and

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<v Speaker 2>just stuff like that trying to keep my body busy,

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<v Speaker 2>trying to keep my mind busy. It's like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>with masturvation, as long as you're out of the house,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the fuck it. I love the things. I

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<v Speaker 1>love the things that I just fucking say on this podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>not really really not registering that anyone actually hears them.

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<v Speaker 1>And then and then someone says, remember when you said

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<v Speaker 1>that you should just be out of the house as

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<v Speaker 1>much as you can so you don't masturbate as much,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, oh, yeah, you really did say that

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. Yeah, and you know, and I fully stand

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<v Speaker 1>by it. I stand by it a lot because it's true.

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever I'm in the house, you know, it's uh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a problem. But I don't do it outside because that's

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<v Speaker 1>a weak. Yeah. I think I would. I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>think even if I'd like to think, even if it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't illegal, I still wouldn't do it outside. But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Who knows what life is like. It might

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<v Speaker 1>be kind. I mean, people do it, people definitely, even

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<v Speaker 1>though it's illegal, People definitely do it. People people do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw a guy jacking off on Venice Beach once,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know what the crazy thing is is nobody cared.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody cared at all because it's what they expect. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like when you see it's like if when you're walking

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<v Speaker 1>through New York and you're on the subway, if you

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<v Speaker 1>just see guy masturbating, you're kind of like, at least

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of like, well that it's not It's like

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<v Speaker 1>seeing a palm tree in Florida. You know, it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what it is?

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<v Speaker 2>This is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody people are just on their phones. No one really

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<v Speaker 1>they avoid them, but they just you know, everyone's just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get to where they want to be. So, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you what's your job now? You're still a chef, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been a chef for about, yeah, thirteen years. So

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<v Speaker 2>in the entire time i've been chefing, I've been smoking weed. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I never went to culinary school or anything. If anybody

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<v Speaker 2>is listening, they want to become a chef, just get

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<v Speaker 2>a job in a kitchen. Deep, So to go to

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<v Speaker 2>culinary school.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your name again, I'm not going to forget this time.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Ron.

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<v Speaker 3>Ron.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my dad's name.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Ron, give me a map, So you graduate high

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<v Speaker 4>school at eighteen, and then you're running around for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>Where all did you run around to?

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<v Speaker 2>So from eighteen twenty one, I stayed in Kansas City.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was twenty one, I actually smoked a shit

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<v Speaker 2>ton of weed one night and I ended up getting

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<v Speaker 2>on a grade Hound and moving to Order and.

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<v Speaker 1>You just I don't breeze past the story.

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<v Speaker 2>So you just.

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<v Speaker 1>Got really like what you're in your mom's house or

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<v Speaker 1>you're where are you like? And you just get really

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<v Speaker 1>hot outside that night to move.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So I'm I'm a hot box in the car

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<v Speaker 2>with my friend. We probably smoked like five or six months.

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<v Speaker 2>And I get home and it's like an Alexati experience

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, I don't know, I can't be here anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>I't my life is going to pass me by if

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<v Speaker 2>I don't leave right now. So I packed the backpack

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<v Speaker 2>full of clothes, drove down to the Greyhound station and

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<v Speaker 2>bought a ticket to Organ because I was supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>go with an ex girlfriend and we got broken up.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, yeah, no, I don't want to stay

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<v Speaker 2>in Kansas City. I'm going anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>And I didn't know anybody. I didn't have a plan

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<v Speaker 2>or anything like that. I ended up surviving out there

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<v Speaker 2>for eight months before I had to go home. My

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<v Speaker 2>sister told me, like, you could say, at my house

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<v Speaker 2>for three months for free, or you can go back

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<v Speaker 2>out to Oregon. And yeah, I ended up taking that

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<v Speaker 2>three months learning to cook at waffle house, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I went back out to Oregon and I ended up

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<v Speaker 2>getting a job in six days working in the kitchen.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was off to the races after.

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<v Speaker 1>Then the first those first eight months that you were

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<v Speaker 1>surviving in Oregon, after just that night packing up and

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<v Speaker 1>you just what you showed up with a backpack and yep,

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<v Speaker 1>that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I had two hundred and eighty dollars in my pocket.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually I had like couldn't cocted a plan on

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<v Speaker 2>the bus where like after I woke up. Either it

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<v Speaker 2>was Stony Hays where I'm like, oh shit, I'm on

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<v Speaker 2>my way to Oregon. So I was like, Okay, let

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<v Speaker 2>me see if I can you know, play nice enough

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, show off my personality to eat to

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<v Speaker 2>where somebody will let me crash on their couch. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's exactly what happened. One of the chicks on the bus,

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<v Speaker 2>she's like, you look extremely young. I know you're coming

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<v Speaker 2>out here to survive and try to figure it out.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you ever need a place to stay, there's

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<v Speaker 2>my number and give me a call. I stayed one

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<v Speaker 2>night in the hotel, gave her a call, and then

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<v Speaker 2>she let me crash on her couch for about two

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<v Speaker 2>months until I got on my feet.

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<v Speaker 1>You met a woman on the Greyhound bus to Oregon

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<v Speaker 1>that you ended up staying with for two months?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, on her couch. Yeah it was. It was one

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<v Speaker 2>of the thirtiest places I've ever stayed. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of the at the end of the night,

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<v Speaker 2>I was able to sleep somewhere with a roof over

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<v Speaker 2>my head, and I was happy. They were some of

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<v Speaker 2>the nicest people I've ever.

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<v Speaker 1>Met who was in this house.

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<v Speaker 2>It was her and her girlfriend at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so wild. That's they just You've just got so

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<v Speaker 1>you got really lucky on that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I did. And I Oregon gives out food stamps

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<v Speaker 2>like their water, so I was just paying for rent

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<v Speaker 2>those first two months and food stamps. I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 2>get two hundred and fifty dollars worth of food stamps.

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<v Speaker 2>This is all I can afford to give you. You

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<v Speaker 2>can have it all. Here's the cart.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And then once I got a job, I got lucky

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<v Speaker 2>again because my boss at that job was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I need a roommate. Cool, how much is rent? And

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<v Speaker 2>rent was about three hundred dollars. So I'm working at

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<v Speaker 2>seven eleven and working with my boss.

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<v Speaker 1>And what year is this?

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<v Speaker 2>This is two thousand and twelve slash thirteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow? And so when you all right, so you got

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<v Speaker 1>on a Greyhound bus and go to Oregon. You meet

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<v Speaker 1>this lady? How soon after you arrived did you get

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<v Speaker 1>a job? And then how'd you get that?

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<v Speaker 2>Two months? And I was just walking around adding, as

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<v Speaker 2>you know, going out giving out my resumes and stuff

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<v Speaker 2>like that, because the internet isn't as crazy as it

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<v Speaker 2>is now even ten years ago. So I'm just walking

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<v Speaker 2>around giving out my resume. Hey, my name is Ron.

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<v Speaker 2>If you need anybody to work, I'm your guy. The

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<v Speaker 2>place was actually about two and a half miles from

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<v Speaker 2>my house, so I'm walking to Mount two and a

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<v Speaker 2>half miles to work two and a half miles back

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<v Speaker 2>every single day.

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<v Speaker 1>Really.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Eventually I got a skateboard to make it a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit easier, so that was my car. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>worked in eight ten hours every single day.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn dude. How long were you there for?

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<v Speaker 5>All?

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<v Speaker 1>Eight months?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah? And then I went back home to Kansas

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<v Speaker 2>City for a bit, and then I ended up going

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<v Speaker 2>back out to Oregon and beginning my journey as a chef.

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<v Speaker 1>What did that look like? Beginning your journey as a chef?

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, just so you know, Ron, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what your plans are for tonight, but I'm fully

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<v Speaker 1>prepared for this entire podcast episode of your life because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fascinated by you.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, thank you loud, thank you. Aud So, after

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<v Speaker 2>I got back, like I told you, I had to

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<v Speaker 2>start cooking at the waffle house. I know you're from

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<v Speaker 2>like the Northeast area. I don't know if you've been

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<v Speaker 2>to a waffle house.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I used to. They have in Georgia where

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<v Speaker 1>I was a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Yeah, So I was working there, working nights, and

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<v Speaker 2>I told my sister while I had been out in Oregon,

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<v Speaker 2>I had heard chefs that were, you know, making thirteen

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen dollars an hour at the time, I'm like, that's

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<v Speaker 2>good money. So I told my sister teach me how

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<v Speaker 2>to cook. And then when I got back to Oregon,

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<v Speaker 2>I was working at a barbecue joint. It wasn't really fulfilling,

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<v Speaker 2>so I started working at a restaurant called Goostops. It's

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<v Speaker 2>closed now. It was a German spot. I had no

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<v Speaker 2>knowledge of them and food anything of the sorts. But

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<v Speaker 2>my chef, she uh looked at me and she's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, normally only hired people with a culinary degree,

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<v Speaker 2>but you see, you got a little bit of cooking experience.

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<v Speaker 2>You seem like you got your head on your shoulders.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm going to give you a trial. And I

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<v Speaker 2>went in there and I just you know, killed. It

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<v Speaker 2>followed everything and everybody was settling me. H went straight

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<v Speaker 2>to the line. I wasn't doing dishes, I wasn't doing prep.

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<v Speaker 2>I was right on the line with the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>the other chefs and just trial by fire and it

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<v Speaker 2>was u it was an experience. H first night, I

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<v Speaker 2>sliced my hand open, and uh, I still had to

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<v Speaker 2>finish another six hours of putting my hand underneath the

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<v Speaker 2>salamander and working and stuff like that. So like it

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<v Speaker 2>was it. It was a intense first day and just

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<v Speaker 2>that first day made me fall in love with working

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<v Speaker 2>in the kitchen. It was a bunch of pirates and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, people just yelling and just pure chaos, like

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<v Speaker 2>this is this is it? This is for me?

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<v Speaker 1>Fuck you, fuck you? And that was And you said

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<v Speaker 1>that was eight years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>That was two thousand and fourteen, So about ten years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, wow, And how long are you in Oregon after that?

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<v Speaker 1>After you start working there?

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<v Speaker 2>So I lived in Oregon for another seven years. I

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<v Speaker 2>ended up I ended up cooking breakfast and stuff, had

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<v Speaker 2>a number of notable joints around there. And then me

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<v Speaker 2>and my brother we were being roommates. He has been

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<v Speaker 2>a piece of shit, so I ended up moving her out.

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<v Speaker 2>I ended up finding the website cool Works, and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't really like where my life was going at

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<v Speaker 2>the time. You know, I had got this travel bug.

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<v Speaker 2>It's where I'm like, Okay, I made it in Portland,

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<v Speaker 2>let's see if I can do it somewhere else. So uh,

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<v Speaker 2>down that website and I ended up applying to go

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<v Speaker 2>to Alaska and that was an amazing trip in itself.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I was out there for about six months, living, working,

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<v Speaker 2>and eating all for free. So yeah, did that. Then

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<v Speaker 2>I came back to Oregon just didn't feel right after

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<v Speaker 2>I had left.

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<v Speaker 1>So you said, I'm sorry. You said in in uh,

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<v Speaker 1>in Oregon it didn't feel right, or in Alaska didn't

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<v Speaker 1>feel right.

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<v Speaker 2>In Oregon. After I came back from Alaska, I still

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<v Speaker 2>had this like deep burning passion to go out and

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<v Speaker 2>travel and you know, see more of the world. Uh

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<v Speaker 2>So I ended up taking a job in Wyoming, and

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<v Speaker 2>that was an experience in myself. I actually got to

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<v Speaker 2>work with a lot of celebrities and I cook that

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<v Speaker 2>one of the fanciest resorts in the world, and just

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<v Speaker 2>like really learning what it meant to be a chef,

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<v Speaker 2>not just cooking one cuisine and all that stuff. I

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<v Speaker 2>got to work in a French kitchen underneath a very

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<v Speaker 2>good chef and while being able to elevate all of

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<v Speaker 2>my skills and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So you, uh, well, first of all, I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to say, it's the fact that you spent seven years

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<v Speaker 1>in Oregon is pretty crazy, because whatever was in that

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<v Speaker 1>weed that night just fucking changed the entire course of

0:27:16.000 --> 0:27:19.879
<v Speaker 1>your life. Like that's that's amazing. I really, I just

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<v Speaker 1>and you initially picked that place because you were gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go there with the next girlfriends.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, And one night.

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<v Speaker 1>I love I love it. You're just one night. You're

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<v Speaker 1>just like, dude, fuck this, I'm not waiting anymore. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>fucking going tonight. So cool. Yeah, and then you just

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<v Speaker 1>fucking make it happen. Do you still keep in contact

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<v Speaker 1>at all with the lady who's couch just left on?

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<v Speaker 1>Or is she gone?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh Na? We haven't talked in years, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I still send her like the random happy days for

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<v Speaker 2>message and stuff like that, and her and her and

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<v Speaker 2>the chick that she was day and they actually ended

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<v Speaker 2>up breaking up and she just had her ex girlfriend

0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:07.280
<v Speaker 2>just had a baby, So I congratulated her on all

0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 2>that stuff. So I made sure they knew that they

0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:15.440
<v Speaker 2>were appreciated. I ended up going back after I got

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<v Speaker 2>a job and moved out, and ended up giving them

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<v Speaker 2>like four or five hundred dollars just to say thank you. Cool. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they they they they really saved me. I could have

0:28:27.680 --> 0:28:32.359
<v Speaker 2>been somewhere out on the street and really struggling, but

0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:35.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, they gave me a chance, and every opportunity

0:28:35.760 --> 0:28:39.600
<v Speaker 2>I've gotten while I've been on this journey, I've just

0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:44.680
<v Speaker 2>made the best of it and taking a chance. That's

0:28:44.880 --> 0:28:45.720
<v Speaker 2>really all it took.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to I want to get back to your

0:28:50.160 --> 0:28:52.880
<v Speaker 1>wyomic adventure. But first I have a I have a

0:28:52.960 --> 0:28:57.480
<v Speaker 1>question for you. If someone is listening to this right

0:28:57.520 --> 0:29:05.959
<v Speaker 1>now and they're inspired by your your bold your boldness, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were to maybe do a bold move as

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<v Speaker 1>you did, is there anything that you feel like you

0:29:12.160 --> 0:29:19.560
<v Speaker 1>learned from your your bold move that you would tell

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who's thinking of doing something similar.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I learned this while I was in the military,

0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:31.160
<v Speaker 2>went to food camp and stuff like that. If you're comfortable,

0:29:32.960 --> 0:29:36.800
<v Speaker 2>you're probably doing it wrong. If you're uncomfortable, you're growing,

0:29:37.000 --> 0:29:41.560
<v Speaker 2>you're changing. You know, you're you're learning how to work

0:29:41.840 --> 0:29:46.040
<v Speaker 2>in a new environment. So my advice to anybody would

0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:50.040
<v Speaker 2>be to just stay open minded. Like if you're in

0:29:50.080 --> 0:29:53.920
<v Speaker 2>a new city, you know, you're somewhere that you're you're

0:29:53.920 --> 0:29:57.360
<v Speaker 2>doing something that you normally wouldn't be doing. Uh, just

0:29:57.400 --> 0:30:02.200
<v Speaker 2>stay open minded, you know, and keep your mind on

0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:04.680
<v Speaker 2>the goal. If the goal is just to get out

0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:09.840
<v Speaker 2>of your city and be somewhere else, fall into that. Uh,

0:30:10.080 --> 0:30:13.480
<v Speaker 2>don't don't be looking back in the past and say, oh,

0:30:13.560 --> 0:30:16.840
<v Speaker 2>I missed this about home, blah blah blah, because at

0:30:16.880 --> 0:30:19.000
<v Speaker 2>the end of the day you put yourself in this position,

0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:23.280
<v Speaker 2>you laugh, you wanted to do this. Now that you're here,

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<v Speaker 2>we live in it.

0:30:26.280 --> 0:30:29.479
<v Speaker 1>The I heard something I know. You know, I feel

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:33.440
<v Speaker 1>dumb because I heard this expression today and I didn't

0:30:33.520 --> 0:30:36.480
<v Speaker 1>realize and it's got to be a popular expression. But

0:30:37.000 --> 0:30:41.800
<v Speaker 1>the grass is greener where you water it. So if

0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:44.400
<v Speaker 1>that was the choice, you know, you either because you

0:30:44.440 --> 0:30:46.640
<v Speaker 1>go to Oregon and you're like, I should have stayed

0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:48.440
<v Speaker 1>back in ke because what's going on there? But if

0:30:48.440 --> 0:30:50.080
<v Speaker 1>you stay in Kansas City, go oh, what could have

0:30:50.080 --> 0:30:52.720
<v Speaker 1>been an Oregon? And it's like, you know whatever, exactly

0:30:52.760 --> 0:30:56.080
<v Speaker 1>as you said, It's like you chose to do the thing. So,

0:30:56.160 --> 0:31:01.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, just fucking leaning to what every shows. I suppose.

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<v Speaker 1>So how did you go? How'd you get this job

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<v Speaker 1>working at UH as a celebrity chef in UH Wyoming?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, dude, same thing. I told you. That website cool

0:31:22.480 --> 0:31:24.440
<v Speaker 2>works has done wonders for me.

0:31:24.960 --> 0:31:26.120
<v Speaker 1>Go ahead, what is it again?

0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:32.960
<v Speaker 2>Cool cool works cool works dot com a free, free

0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:37.800
<v Speaker 2>promotion for them, literally the best. It's the best website too.

0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:42.440
<v Speaker 2>If you want to leave your hometown and you are

0:31:42.560 --> 0:31:45.480
<v Speaker 2>you're scared to get a job and you work in hospitality,

0:31:45.600 --> 0:31:49.120
<v Speaker 2>or even if you don't work in hospitality. Uh, there's

0:31:49.520 --> 0:31:54.840
<v Speaker 2>a ton of jobs on there, from fishing guides to

0:31:56.160 --> 0:32:00.640
<v Speaker 2>being a ski uh what a what a those dudes

0:32:00.720 --> 0:32:06.000
<v Speaker 2>like a ski lift instructor or whatever. In Colorado, any

0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:10.440
<v Speaker 2>any resort in the United States, they have there. They

0:32:10.480 --> 0:32:12.360
<v Speaker 2>have an ad on there. And if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>go experience wise, even just for summer, excuse me, go

0:32:18.920 --> 0:32:21.880
<v Speaker 2>on cool works dot com. Especially if you're young then

0:32:21.920 --> 0:32:26.680
<v Speaker 2>you're in college, go on cool works. You'll get paid,

0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:30.680
<v Speaker 2>you'll be able to go somewhere else for the summer,

0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:34.640
<v Speaker 2>and it'll be a life change and experience. It literally

0:32:34.760 --> 0:32:38.360
<v Speaker 2>launched my entire like traveling career.

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<v Speaker 1>Fu y yeah. I was gonna say, like, let's say

0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:44.920
<v Speaker 1>somebody is like whatever, eighteen and maybe they don't want

0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:47.400
<v Speaker 1>to go to college, or they just graduated college, but

0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:51.280
<v Speaker 1>they graduated in something stupid like film and media arts,

0:32:51.640 --> 0:32:54.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, and they don't have any like like uh,

0:32:55.240 --> 0:32:57.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, hard skills or anything like that. Is this

0:32:57.880 --> 0:33:01.280
<v Speaker 1>is this something that you know people can can do

0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:03.320
<v Speaker 1>without a whole lot of experience.

0:33:04.720 --> 0:33:08.240
<v Speaker 2>Yep, yep. They they will teach you everything. Like the

0:33:08.440 --> 0:33:13.280
<v Speaker 2>job that I worked at it was you know, We

0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:17.640
<v Speaker 2>brought in new people every year, and uh we train

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:21.640
<v Speaker 2>them up the three weeks before the season starts. You know,

0:33:21.720 --> 0:33:24.920
<v Speaker 2>you're in the kitchen, you're learning them and us giving

0:33:24.960 --> 0:33:27.680
<v Speaker 2>you all the stuff. You don't have a knife, there's

0:33:27.920 --> 0:33:33.880
<v Speaker 2>knives there. Like there's programs where like if you don't

0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:36.200
<v Speaker 2>want to work in the kitchen, you could just watch kids.

0:33:36.400 --> 0:33:38.280
<v Speaker 2>Anybody can watch a baby.

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<v Speaker 1>Not anybody, but some people. I'm gonna go, I'm gonna

0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:47.920
<v Speaker 1>rebuff that statement. I'm gonna I'm gonna say, not everybody

0:33:47.960 --> 0:33:53.480
<v Speaker 1>can can watch a baby, but I get what you mean. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, that's okay. I'm gonna actually check this

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<v Speaker 1>out because I was I was sitting around today being

0:33:58.320 --> 0:34:01.720
<v Speaker 1>like I should go do some fucking shit, even though

0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:02.960
<v Speaker 1>I just did a bunch of fucking shit.

0:34:03.360 --> 0:34:08.440
<v Speaker 5>But uh, all right, Yeah, even if you're in a

0:34:08.440 --> 0:34:11.280
<v Speaker 5>film major, you can go there and do the marketing

0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:14.959
<v Speaker 5>for them and do a photographers something like that. There's

0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:17.279
<v Speaker 5>a ton of different jobs that.

0:34:17.280 --> 0:34:18.160
<v Speaker 2>You can do stuff.

0:34:18.440 --> 0:34:21.920
<v Speaker 1>And that's how you, uh became a chef at this

0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:24.120
<v Speaker 1>this crazy resort place.

0:34:25.400 --> 0:34:30.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, So I ended up going out there in

0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:37.440
<v Speaker 2>two thousand and eighteen or seventeen and it was free housing.

0:34:37.640 --> 0:34:40.200
<v Speaker 2>I did have to sleep in a room with three

0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:43.120
<v Speaker 2>other dudes on bump beds, so it's like summer camp,

0:34:43.880 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 2>but it was free. Uh, three meals a day free

0:34:50.480 --> 0:34:53.840
<v Speaker 2>and then every single week I completed, I got a

0:34:53.880 --> 0:34:57.719
<v Speaker 2>two hundred and thirty dollars bonus that was paid out

0:34:57.800 --> 0:35:02.040
<v Speaker 2>to the MPUM this season. So with that bonus, I

0:35:02.080 --> 0:35:04.279
<v Speaker 2>took that bonus and I went down and stayed in

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<v Speaker 2>Peru for two and a half months.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you do in Peru?

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<v Speaker 2>I just hung out, man, I just hung out, sassa dance,

0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:18.240
<v Speaker 2>enjoyed the scene and re enjoyed the women in the museums.

0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:20.440
<v Speaker 1>We're there by yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I spoke a little bit of Spanish. So

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<v Speaker 2>but after after I came back and smoke a bit

0:35:27.480 --> 0:35:29.959
<v Speaker 2>of Mount More Spanish.

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<v Speaker 1>Fuck. Yeah, so cool. Now, when you were in Peru,

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<v Speaker 1>did you like stay at a hostel or something or

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<v Speaker 1>you were.

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<v Speaker 6>Just like, first month, I had an Airbnb red day

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<v Speaker 6>of redemption to it just came out, so you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I just uh, and.

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<v Speaker 1>You spent them. It's so funny. You know it's so

0:35:54.400 --> 0:35:57.000
<v Speaker 1>funny is that you just described like you were like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a fucking awesome time in Peru. It was

0:36:00.160 --> 0:36:02.799
<v Speaker 1>rate the best two months of my life. All I

0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:05.520
<v Speaker 1>did was play red De Redemption two. And by the way,

0:36:06.640 --> 0:36:09.440
<v Speaker 1>by the way, I would believe you if that was

0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:13.440
<v Speaker 1>the case, because red De Redemption two is an awesome

0:36:14.080 --> 0:36:20.960
<v Speaker 1>is an amazing life experience. Yeah, the spent right. So

0:36:21.040 --> 0:36:24.440
<v Speaker 1>you're you're just in Peru. You bought a PlayStation four

0:36:24.520 --> 0:36:27.840
<v Speaker 1>in Peru and got red Diredemption two in Spanish.

0:36:29.000 --> 0:36:31.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, I brought my PlayStation four with me on

0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:34.400
<v Speaker 2>the plane. Already I was up to no good before

0:36:34.440 --> 0:36:35.080
<v Speaker 2>I even left.

0:36:40.600 --> 0:36:44.719
<v Speaker 1>And then where'd you go from Peru?

0:36:45.040 --> 0:36:50.080
<v Speaker 2>From Peru, I went back to Oregon, and then I

0:36:50.160 --> 0:36:53.440
<v Speaker 2>went back to Wyoming, and then I went down to

0:36:54.800 --> 0:36:59.320
<v Speaker 2>uh the Keys in Florida. So I ended up living

0:36:59.360 --> 0:37:01.759
<v Speaker 2>down in Florida for about six months, working at it

0:37:02.400 --> 0:37:07.440
<v Speaker 2>another luxury resort down there, for it was a private

0:37:07.440 --> 0:37:12.279
<v Speaker 2>billionaire's yacht club. Also another job I found off with

0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:18.960
<v Speaker 2>cool Works, and it was it was miserable.

0:37:19.080 --> 0:37:21.759
<v Speaker 1>Why was that miserable? Uh?

0:37:23.640 --> 0:37:26.200
<v Speaker 2>It was just like it was. I'm not a fan

0:37:26.280 --> 0:37:32.280
<v Speaker 2>of seventy degrees every single day. Uh, it's the same weather.

0:37:33.400 --> 0:37:36.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna get with Florida it's like de japou.

0:37:38.000 --> 0:37:41.399
<v Speaker 1>So what's I gotta I gotta ask you what is

0:37:41.480 --> 0:37:46.600
<v Speaker 1>the Because you're clearly a hard work and suffering builds

0:37:46.680 --> 0:37:50.799
<v Speaker 1>character kind of a guy. But what is the what?

0:37:50.880 --> 0:37:54.480
<v Speaker 1>How do you know if you're just fucking miserable and

0:37:54.520 --> 0:37:58.880
<v Speaker 1>you need to change something versus your going through a

0:37:58.920 --> 0:38:04.000
<v Speaker 1>hard time, that is molding your spirits.

0:38:05.440 --> 0:38:08.120
<v Speaker 2>If you hate you, if you if the thought of

0:38:08.800 --> 0:38:13.840
<v Speaker 2>going into work gives you anxiety, and you know you

0:38:14.040 --> 0:38:19.359
<v Speaker 2>just hate this job and it doesn't bring you much

0:38:19.440 --> 0:38:23.480
<v Speaker 2>joy outside of getting paid, you need to move on.

0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:30.560
<v Speaker 2>That's uh, that's that's the best way I can describe it.

0:38:30.640 --> 0:38:36.440
<v Speaker 2>If it isn't bring you anything else besides monetary gainst,

0:38:36.560 --> 0:38:39.319
<v Speaker 2>and uh, you need to move on because if the

0:38:39.360 --> 0:38:43.480
<v Speaker 2>people suck at the environment sucks, you're just you're just

0:38:43.560 --> 0:38:47.880
<v Speaker 2>kind of uh killing yourself for a dollar and you

0:38:47.920 --> 0:38:51.880
<v Speaker 2>can go somewhere else and be in a much better

0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:55.760
<v Speaker 2>environment and enjoy yourself.

0:38:56.680 --> 0:38:59.440
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever been in a job that you identified

0:38:59.440 --> 0:39:00.879
<v Speaker 1>that you just fuck hat and you quit?

0:39:02.760 --> 0:39:04.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my most recent job.

0:39:05.640 --> 0:39:08.000
<v Speaker 1>What was it that you hated about it?

0:39:09.520 --> 0:39:14.880
<v Speaker 2>Uh? Well, like so like I've never I've been lucky

0:39:15.040 --> 0:39:20.520
<v Speaker 2>enough to never been around like really abusive chefs, like

0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:24.160
<v Speaker 2>Turgole abusive chefs and stuff like that, and this guy

0:39:24.400 --> 0:39:29.000
<v Speaker 2>was just like the absolute worst. And I've worked for

0:39:29.520 --> 0:39:32.719
<v Speaker 2>better chefs who are who have their head on their

0:39:32.719 --> 0:39:36.320
<v Speaker 2>shoulders way more. So I just couldn't do it. It wasn't

0:39:36.719 --> 0:39:41.440
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't conducive to me learning and growing. M hm.

0:39:42.880 --> 0:39:44.799
<v Speaker 1>And where'd you go right after you quit that?

0:39:47.200 --> 0:39:50.799
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm going up to a kitchen up in Iron Bay.

0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:56.360
<v Speaker 2>So that started my new job. Yeah, I haven't started

0:39:56.400 --> 0:39:58.359
<v Speaker 2>my new job. I'm kind of on a break right now.

0:39:59.320 --> 0:40:00.600
<v Speaker 1>What are you doing with your break?

0:40:03.080 --> 0:40:07.680
<v Speaker 2>We are getting ready to celebrate Christmas is Christmas Eve today,

0:40:07.840 --> 0:40:13.040
<v Speaker 2>so we are finishing up all of our dishes for

0:40:13.239 --> 0:40:19.239
<v Speaker 2>tomorrow and getting ready to drive down to Canberra, the

0:40:20.400 --> 0:40:21.640
<v Speaker 2>capital of Australia.

0:40:25.400 --> 0:40:30.000
<v Speaker 1>When you first came to Australia, I assume that was

0:40:30.000 --> 0:40:31.279
<v Speaker 1>a cool works thing.

0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:37.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, so actually I actually applied to come out

0:40:37.560 --> 0:40:41.400
<v Speaker 2>here on a work on holiday visa in twenty nineteen,

0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:46.680
<v Speaker 2>and then obviously the entire world shut down. So I

0:40:46.760 --> 0:40:53.279
<v Speaker 2>was out in Cali seeing a Kanye westconcert. I ended

0:40:53.360 --> 0:40:58.719
<v Speaker 2>up getting robbed that night. The next morning, when I

0:40:58.760 --> 0:41:02.759
<v Speaker 2>woke up, I had my visa for Australia approves. Just

0:41:02.880 --> 0:41:05.040
<v Speaker 2>kind of told my job out in Wyoming because I'm

0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:09.120
<v Speaker 2>back out in Wyoming at this point, Hey man, at

0:41:09.160 --> 0:41:14.200
<v Speaker 2>the beginning of twenty twenty two, I'm gonna be taking

0:41:14.239 --> 0:41:16.239
<v Speaker 2>a dive and moving to Australia.

0:41:18.360 --> 0:41:22.799
<v Speaker 1>That's sick. Damn. Yeah, you live a cool life. I'm

0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:26.279
<v Speaker 1>very I'm very inspired talking to you. I've inspired that.

0:41:26.400 --> 0:41:29.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm inspired by a few things. Is that you just

0:41:30.040 --> 0:41:38.120
<v Speaker 1>really seem like a guy who won't settle for being

0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:44.080
<v Speaker 1>unhappy or being you know, comfortable in a bad way,

0:41:44.320 --> 0:41:46.440
<v Speaker 1>even even the fact that it took you one hundred

0:41:46.480 --> 0:41:51.400
<v Speaker 1>plus dates to find a woman you really wanted to

0:41:51.400 --> 0:41:57.319
<v Speaker 1>start a life with and fucking you know, going so

0:41:57.520 --> 0:42:02.600
<v Speaker 1>boldly to Oregon on a whim him and uh, sticking

0:42:02.680 --> 0:42:08.160
<v Speaker 1>it out through difficult jobs, but in finding joy within

0:42:08.239 --> 0:42:12.440
<v Speaker 1>the difficulty. It's it's really cool. I really appreciate the

0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:17.480
<v Speaker 1>way that you look at and live your life.

0:42:18.120 --> 0:42:20.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, that's all life really is. Like, I'm

0:42:20.880 --> 0:42:23.319
<v Speaker 2>not a persistent guy when it comes to dating. That's

0:42:23.360 --> 0:42:26.800
<v Speaker 2>why I've had so many dates. If you don't seem interested,

0:42:26.880 --> 0:42:29.360
<v Speaker 2>then I'm not interested. So I think a lot of

0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:33.879
<v Speaker 2>people they kind of they get too involved with one

0:42:33.920 --> 0:42:36.640
<v Speaker 2>person who doesn't seem interested with them when they could

0:42:36.719 --> 0:42:38.320
<v Speaker 2>just move on to the next person.

0:42:39.880 --> 0:42:42.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that seems to be the better strategy instead of

0:42:42.840 --> 0:42:44.960
<v Speaker 1>trying to let you know, you know what, you know

0:42:45.000 --> 0:42:48.719
<v Speaker 1>what it is. I I it's so funny. I was

0:42:48.760 --> 0:42:52.040
<v Speaker 1>talking to my friend's girlfriend about this, Like anytime you're

0:42:52.680 --> 0:42:56.320
<v Speaker 1>like analyzing a text that someone sent you, or like

0:42:56.360 --> 0:42:58.480
<v Speaker 1>you're showing your friends like what does what does this

0:42:58.520 --> 0:43:01.800
<v Speaker 1>guy mean? Or what does this girl mean? What? Really?

0:43:01.880 --> 0:43:04.680
<v Speaker 1>I think what is really going on is like you

0:43:04.760 --> 0:43:09.560
<v Speaker 1>in your gut like know what they mean, and you're

0:43:09.680 --> 0:43:14.080
<v Speaker 1>like begging your friends and begging your ego for any

0:43:14.160 --> 0:43:19.480
<v Speaker 1>interpretation that is not what your gut knows they mean.

0:43:19.640 --> 0:43:22.680
<v Speaker 1>Because you're what your gut knows they mean. You don't

0:43:22.760 --> 0:43:26.520
<v Speaker 1>like you know, but it's it's way easier to just

0:43:28.080 --> 0:43:31.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, charge it to the game and keep going.

0:43:32.280 --> 0:43:34.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what I did for a while. I was

0:43:34.200 --> 0:43:37.600
<v Speaker 2>like an old Inns game One Life and you're out,

0:43:37.880 --> 0:43:44.200
<v Speaker 2>Sorry to work for me. Maybe that that I passed

0:43:44.280 --> 0:43:46.279
<v Speaker 2>up a lot of good people, But at the end

0:43:46.280 --> 0:43:48.160
<v Speaker 2>of the day, I'm happy with the person that I'm with.

0:43:48.920 --> 0:43:49.600
<v Speaker 1>That's wonderful.

0:43:49.640 --> 0:43:49.799
<v Speaker 3>Man.

0:43:49.840 --> 0:43:53.680
<v Speaker 2>It just takes a lot of trial there. And honestly,

0:43:53.760 --> 0:43:56.680
<v Speaker 2>I didn't I didn't want to date in my twenties.

0:43:58.719 --> 0:44:01.000
<v Speaker 2>I put that on the back end and just really

0:44:01.080 --> 0:44:05.520
<v Speaker 2>went and traveled and saw the world and new experiences

0:44:05.640 --> 0:44:09.160
<v Speaker 2>and met people and oh that good stuff. I think

0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:12.320
<v Speaker 2>that's what you really should be doing. I'm actually envious

0:44:12.400 --> 0:44:15.680
<v Speaker 2>of you with your whole podcast and stuff like that.

0:44:15.800 --> 0:44:19.760
<v Speaker 2>The fact that you are able to just do something

0:44:19.840 --> 0:44:23.120
<v Speaker 2>you really love and make money from it.

0:44:24.239 --> 0:44:27.839
<v Speaker 1>Fuck. Man, Yeah, you're inspiring me because I I, well,

0:44:27.920 --> 0:44:30.839
<v Speaker 1>it's uh here, I mean, here's where I'm at when

0:44:31.280 --> 0:44:33.759
<v Speaker 1>my life is. Like I just I've went on like

0:44:33.960 --> 0:44:41.799
<v Speaker 1>three tours and it was like so cool to get

0:44:41.800 --> 0:44:46.040
<v Speaker 1>to see I really do I fucking really in my core.

0:44:46.640 --> 0:44:49.840
<v Speaker 1>In my core is a guy who like fucking loves

0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:53.799
<v Speaker 1>life and loves traveling and loves talking to people. And

0:44:53.840 --> 0:44:58.480
<v Speaker 1>I get very disconnected from that core because of like

0:44:58.640 --> 0:45:05.440
<v Speaker 1>depression and fall and uh just problems and things and

0:45:05.719 --> 0:45:09.279
<v Speaker 1>this long periods of time. I feel very disconnected with

0:45:09.440 --> 0:45:13.080
<v Speaker 1>that guy in my core that like loves life and people.

0:45:13.480 --> 0:45:16.640
<v Speaker 1>And then uh, and then something just comes where like

0:45:16.719 --> 0:45:19.800
<v Speaker 1>I awake and I'm like, well, wait a minute, I

0:45:20.160 --> 0:45:22.759
<v Speaker 1>wanna I actually I like things. I want to go out,

0:45:22.800 --> 0:45:24.640
<v Speaker 1>I want to see the world. I'm gonna die all

0:45:24.640 --> 0:45:28.600
<v Speaker 1>this stuff. But then I don't know. I get there's

0:45:28.640 --> 0:45:33.720
<v Speaker 1>a lot to enjoy about domestic life, like having clean

0:45:33.840 --> 0:45:38.799
<v Speaker 1>laundry and uh yeah, going to the gym regularly and

0:45:38.840 --> 0:45:42.560
<v Speaker 1>eating salmon and all that stuff, and I'm like, I

0:45:42.600 --> 0:45:48.680
<v Speaker 1>wanna ultimately live a life where I can eat salmon

0:45:49.600 --> 0:45:55.640
<v Speaker 1>and go to Australia randomly. But I don't know. It's

0:45:55.760 --> 0:45:58.960
<v Speaker 1>it's used to be a very like adventure has always

0:45:59.000 --> 0:46:03.000
<v Speaker 1>been a very core tenant of my life. But it's hard,

0:46:03.080 --> 0:46:05.720
<v Speaker 1>especially when you do it alone. It's really hard because

0:46:05.760 --> 0:46:09.560
<v Speaker 1>sometimes when you go somewhere alone and you stay at

0:46:09.640 --> 0:46:14.080
<v Speaker 1>a on some random guy this couch that you met

0:46:14.120 --> 0:46:21.000
<v Speaker 1>on the internet, you get into these situations where you're like, uh, well, one,

0:46:21.040 --> 0:46:24.680
<v Speaker 1>when you go alone, you experience like really deep fucking

0:46:24.920 --> 0:46:30.960
<v Speaker 1>melancholy and sadness. Oh my god, I'm lone's fun yeah,

0:46:31.080 --> 0:46:34.279
<v Speaker 1>just loneliness, and you're like, I like, I was in

0:46:34.400 --> 0:46:38.080
<v Speaker 1>Thailand and I was at a McDonald's by myself, crying

0:46:38.880 --> 0:46:41.880
<v Speaker 1>at night, and I was like, I'm gonna cry, like

0:46:41.920 --> 0:46:46.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm twenty six crying alone in a McDonald's in Thailand,

0:46:46.880 --> 0:46:51.960
<v Speaker 1>which in the moment is it feels really pathetic, but

0:46:52.120 --> 0:46:54.520
<v Speaker 1>then looking back on it, I'm like, like, when i'm

0:46:55.280 --> 0:46:58.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, forty, and I have kids or whatever, I'm

0:46:58.160 --> 0:47:00.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna be like, oh that was there was something poetic

0:47:00.920 --> 0:47:05.680
<v Speaker 1>about crying alone in that McDonald's. I'm like, I'm glad

0:47:05.920 --> 0:47:08.239
<v Speaker 1>that sucked in the moment, but I'm glad I did that.

0:47:08.280 --> 0:47:10.560
<v Speaker 1>Like there's so you get to kind of be in

0:47:10.600 --> 0:47:15.960
<v Speaker 1>this poetic melancholy sadness. But then also there's really high

0:47:16.080 --> 0:47:19.880
<v Speaker 1>highs where you meet some person at a thing and

0:47:19.920 --> 0:47:22.160
<v Speaker 1>then you're at this thing and you're whatever, and you're like, oh,

0:47:22.239 --> 0:47:24.760
<v Speaker 1>how the fuck did this even happen? This is crazy,

0:47:24.800 --> 0:47:26.720
<v Speaker 1>this is amazing, Like oh my god, I'm like living

0:47:26.760 --> 0:47:31.080
<v Speaker 1>like Walter Midty, like life is a movie kind of shit.

0:47:31.200 --> 0:47:35.360
<v Speaker 1>But you got to go through the the melancholyly to

0:47:36.360 --> 0:47:39.040
<v Speaker 1>get there. I'm really with you, I really think, especially

0:47:39.080 --> 0:47:41.279
<v Speaker 1>if you've if you're someone who's never left the country before,

0:47:41.400 --> 0:47:44.080
<v Speaker 1>never done anything like that, you know you really got to.

0:47:44.160 --> 0:47:47.160
<v Speaker 1>But right now I'm like, I gotta I gotta lose

0:47:47.200 --> 0:47:50.759
<v Speaker 1>fifty pounds and eat salmon and stuff. What were you

0:47:50.800 --> 0:47:51.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna say?

0:47:51.560 --> 0:47:56.040
<v Speaker 2>Wow, go ahead. When I was in Peru, I actually

0:47:56.080 --> 0:47:59.560
<v Speaker 2>experienced a lot of this you're talking about, like been

0:47:59.640 --> 0:48:03.680
<v Speaker 2>somewhere and just crying stuff in my face, like just

0:48:03.760 --> 0:48:07.319
<v Speaker 2>being a streaming lonely. But while I was in Peru,

0:48:07.480 --> 0:48:10.960
<v Speaker 2>I just took the time to really work out every

0:48:11.000 --> 0:48:17.480
<v Speaker 2>single day outside stuff like that. Calisthetics is amazing. You

0:48:17.520 --> 0:48:19.919
<v Speaker 2>don't have to go to the gym. You can buy

0:48:19.960 --> 0:48:23.040
<v Speaker 2>stuff at home where you're just doing push ups, doing

0:48:23.080 --> 0:48:26.480
<v Speaker 2>squats and all this stuff like that to where you

0:48:26.480 --> 0:48:28.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, I used to do one hundred push ups

0:48:28.320 --> 0:48:31.280
<v Speaker 2>every single day.

0:48:29.920 --> 0:48:32.520
<v Speaker 1>Of course you do.

0:48:37.120 --> 0:48:40.520
<v Speaker 2>And that just kind of helped me stay focused and

0:48:40.719 --> 0:48:43.600
<v Speaker 2>stay on the grind. I know weight loss. I struggle

0:48:43.640 --> 0:48:48.880
<v Speaker 2>with weight gain. I'm extremely skinny and that really bothers me.

0:48:49.040 --> 0:48:52.800
<v Speaker 2>I wish I could gain weight easy. So I definitely

0:48:53.320 --> 0:48:58.200
<v Speaker 2>recognize you having a problem with your weight and wanting

0:48:58.200 --> 0:49:00.319
<v Speaker 2>to do something about it. You just have to kind

0:49:00.360 --> 0:49:01.360
<v Speaker 2>of stay on the path.

0:49:01.800 --> 0:49:03.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I thought I could do it while I was

0:49:03.560 --> 0:49:06.759
<v Speaker 1>on tour, and it's like, I really just can't. But

0:49:06.800 --> 0:49:08.480
<v Speaker 1>then I think get bored. I don't know, it's it's

0:49:08.600 --> 0:49:12.520
<v Speaker 1>it's it's good. It's good problems to have, you know, Well,

0:49:12.680 --> 0:49:17.040
<v Speaker 1>tell me this. Yeah, so you just found out your

0:49:17.040 --> 0:49:19.759
<v Speaker 1>girlfriend is pregnant or how did you How did that

0:49:19.800 --> 0:49:22.640
<v Speaker 1>make you feel? Are you excited about the future. We

0:49:22.719 --> 0:49:25.840
<v Speaker 1>talked about the past, we talked about the present, the present.

0:49:26.280 --> 0:49:30.279
<v Speaker 1>We shall end this with the future of Ron's life.

0:49:30.800 --> 0:49:34.200
<v Speaker 2>Uh I am. I am extremely nervous, obviously, like every

0:49:34.320 --> 0:49:40.160
<v Speaker 2>parent would be. Uh. I think it'll be good. I'm

0:49:40.160 --> 0:49:43.680
<v Speaker 2>moving away from a job that was making me unhappy

0:49:43.880 --> 0:49:47.520
<v Speaker 2>and moving somewhere else. It's kind of like lit a

0:49:47.600 --> 0:49:50.759
<v Speaker 2>fire in the treat get out of the kitchen and

0:49:50.800 --> 0:49:54.520
<v Speaker 2>do something that's a little bit more family friendly. So

0:49:55.719 --> 0:49:58.200
<v Speaker 2>that's what I'm trying to do, honest, to maybe move

0:49:58.280 --> 0:50:01.640
<v Speaker 2>into something different that I could spend time with my

0:50:01.719 --> 0:50:04.560
<v Speaker 2>girlfriend and my future child.

0:50:05.600 --> 0:50:08.680
<v Speaker 1>What's what's on your mind? What are you thinking?

0:50:10.960 --> 0:50:15.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, I was thinking of electricians, but I might just

0:50:15.480 --> 0:50:18.760
<v Speaker 2>do something on the computer, like cyberce security or something

0:50:18.840 --> 0:50:24.120
<v Speaker 2>like that, something technical that I could do from home

0:50:24.360 --> 0:50:27.839
<v Speaker 2>or not be at work all hours or didn't night.

0:50:28.200 --> 0:50:32.920
<v Speaker 1>So are you worried that you'll after so much time

0:50:32.960 --> 0:50:35.640
<v Speaker 1>in this like fast paced environment that you really loved,

0:50:35.680 --> 0:50:40.160
<v Speaker 1>are you? Are you worried about a career change.

0:50:41.040 --> 0:50:44.920
<v Speaker 2>No, I've been longing for a career change for about

0:50:46.920 --> 0:50:50.239
<v Speaker 2>two years now. But unfortunately in Australia, I'm a sponsored

0:50:50.360 --> 0:50:55.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm on a sponsorship visa, so I couldn't leave the

0:50:55.120 --> 0:50:57.920
<v Speaker 2>job that I'm at. I'm at, but I'm I'm on

0:50:58.000 --> 0:51:00.920
<v Speaker 2>my way to obtaining my p are, so they're not

0:51:01.040 --> 0:51:07.600
<v Speaker 2>keen basically be an Australian citizen, get the medicare, get

0:51:07.640 --> 0:51:12.439
<v Speaker 2>the cheaper school, all that stuff like that. So it's

0:51:12.520 --> 0:51:13.480
<v Speaker 2>just all it's all.

0:51:14.680 --> 0:51:17.239
<v Speaker 1>Is it hard to becoming a can you? Well, are

0:51:17.280 --> 0:51:20.520
<v Speaker 1>you not married to this lady? Are you?

0:51:20.560 --> 0:51:21.200
<v Speaker 2>No? No yet?

0:51:21.800 --> 0:51:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh so if you if you if you get if

0:51:23.640 --> 0:51:25.880
<v Speaker 1>you get married, are you gonna do you just become

0:51:25.880 --> 0:51:27.000
<v Speaker 1>a citizen or how does that work?

0:51:28.360 --> 0:51:28.520
<v Speaker 3>Uh?

0:51:28.680 --> 0:51:32.120
<v Speaker 2>No, you actually have to pay ten thousand Australian to

0:51:32.440 --> 0:51:34.399
<v Speaker 2>apply for a partnership.

0:51:33.920 --> 0:51:35.799
<v Speaker 1>Us get the fuck out of here.

0:51:37.680 --> 0:51:38.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:51:38.840 --> 0:51:40.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but not only do you have to pay for

0:51:41.160 --> 0:51:44.080
<v Speaker 2>the wedding and stuff like that, you have to convince

0:51:44.120 --> 0:51:48.640
<v Speaker 2>the government that uh you are a legitimate couple and

0:51:48.840 --> 0:51:51.839
<v Speaker 2>that you want to be together. So that typically means

0:51:51.880 --> 0:51:54.880
<v Speaker 2>you can't leave the country for two to three years

0:51:54.920 --> 0:51:59.080
<v Speaker 2>while they thereify all of that stuff. So, uh, I'm

0:51:59.080 --> 0:52:04.200
<v Speaker 2>going the other route with my job, so that I

0:52:04.320 --> 0:52:07.719
<v Speaker 2>basically have a job. Say yeah, we need this guy,

0:52:07.880 --> 0:52:11.560
<v Speaker 2>we'd like to keep him around. We will sponsor.

0:52:12.480 --> 0:52:16.200
<v Speaker 1>And after living a nomadic life for so long, how

0:52:16.200 --> 0:52:18.160
<v Speaker 1>are you feeling about settling down with a kid?

0:52:20.160 --> 0:52:22.360
<v Speaker 2>Uh? Like I said, it was, it was kind of

0:52:22.400 --> 0:52:24.879
<v Speaker 2>that same thing, like I've done the chef thing. Got

0:52:24.880 --> 0:52:29.799
<v Speaker 2>done everything that I feel like I wanted to do

0:52:29.960 --> 0:52:32.640
<v Speaker 2>in the culinary world because I have no want on

0:52:32.719 --> 0:52:37.560
<v Speaker 2>a restaurant. After that, I just kind of wanted to

0:52:38.160 --> 0:52:44.560
<v Speaker 2>start reading a regular life. I wanted to experience what

0:52:44.640 --> 0:52:47.399
<v Speaker 2>other people experience, have been off of work at five

0:52:47.400 --> 0:52:49.160
<v Speaker 2>o'clock and stuff like that.

0:52:51.000 --> 0:52:53.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna if you're down. I know, I know I've

0:52:53.080 --> 0:52:55.720
<v Speaker 1>kept you on the phone for a long time here,

0:52:55.760 --> 0:52:57.960
<v Speaker 1>but if you're down, I want to see if the

0:52:58.080 --> 0:53:03.000
<v Speaker 1>chat perhaps has any questions for Ron. I'm gonna I'm

0:53:03.000 --> 0:53:05.359
<v Speaker 1>gonna see if the chat I can read them out

0:53:05.400 --> 0:53:15.839
<v Speaker 1>to you. Let me see here, let's see here. Uh,

0:53:15.840 --> 0:53:18.719
<v Speaker 1>someone just said are you a fancy chef? That I

0:53:18.760 --> 0:53:21.360
<v Speaker 1>only I swear to God, if there was enough that

0:53:21.480 --> 0:53:24.200
<v Speaker 1>was the only question so far. If I saw a

0:53:24.239 --> 0:53:24.800
<v Speaker 1>better question.

0:53:24.840 --> 0:53:31.439
<v Speaker 6>I would have asked, I've done high end work.

0:53:31.480 --> 0:53:35.400
<v Speaker 2>I've done I've worked so alt In Wyoming, I was

0:53:35.440 --> 0:53:39.560
<v Speaker 2>in a French kitchen making the consummes and nokis and

0:53:39.920 --> 0:53:43.600
<v Speaker 2>agnalodi pasta from scratch and stuff like that. I used

0:53:43.600 --> 0:53:49.000
<v Speaker 2>to eat Wago beef every single day. Uh yeah, I

0:53:49.040 --> 0:53:50.040
<v Speaker 2>guess you could say.

0:53:52.239 --> 0:53:58.040
<v Speaker 1>Has working in a kitchen caused you to trust less

0:53:58.080 --> 0:54:02.359
<v Speaker 1>in the food that you're getting when you like order it? Like,

0:54:02.400 --> 0:54:04.879
<v Speaker 1>are like, do you have you seen anything gross where

0:54:04.920 --> 0:54:06.120
<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh god.

0:54:07.800 --> 0:54:11.880
<v Speaker 2>Uh no, it's I actually try not like it's actually

0:54:12.040 --> 0:54:15.160
<v Speaker 2>like other people when they go into a restaurant, No,

0:54:15.560 --> 0:54:20.080
<v Speaker 2>this isn't the best. And I just go into a restaurant.

0:54:20.120 --> 0:54:23.720
<v Speaker 2>I prefer that, like it's it's just good. When somebody

0:54:23.719 --> 0:54:26.360
<v Speaker 2>else is cooking for me, did you try?

0:54:26.800 --> 0:54:26.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh?

0:54:27.000 --> 0:54:28.959
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, what's what's your girlfriend cooking?

0:54:30.200 --> 0:54:34.000
<v Speaker 2>She can cook? She's no, you'll find it.

0:54:35.000 --> 0:54:35.640
<v Speaker 4>Oh she is?

0:54:35.680 --> 0:54:36.080
<v Speaker 2>She is?

0:54:36.120 --> 0:54:37.760
<v Speaker 1>She is that who's in the background.

0:54:39.080 --> 0:54:40.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, tell her.

0:54:40.800 --> 0:54:42.920
<v Speaker 1>I said, thank you for letting me steal you away

0:54:43.040 --> 0:54:44.360
<v Speaker 1>for a fucking hour.

0:54:50.160 --> 0:54:50.960
<v Speaker 2>No, you're fine.

0:54:51.520 --> 0:54:55.440
<v Speaker 1>Someone said you have you tried ayahuasca in Peru?

0:54:57.160 --> 0:55:05.360
<v Speaker 2>No? But I've done a fair amount of ass. I

0:55:05.520 --> 0:55:07.440
<v Speaker 2>never made it out to the jungle. While I was

0:55:07.440 --> 0:55:11.360
<v Speaker 2>in Peru after ben out in Wyoming for six and

0:55:11.400 --> 0:55:13.880
<v Speaker 2>a half seven months, I just wanted to be in

0:55:13.920 --> 0:55:18.680
<v Speaker 2>a city, dance, eat good food, meet people. Actually ended

0:55:18.760 --> 0:55:20.880
<v Speaker 2>up going on a tender date while I was there

0:55:21.520 --> 0:55:27.320
<v Speaker 2>and met two of my really good friends.

0:55:28.640 --> 0:55:31.560
<v Speaker 1>Someone wants to know what town in Alaska did you

0:55:31.600 --> 0:55:31.880
<v Speaker 1>go to?

0:55:33.920 --> 0:55:36.839
<v Speaker 2>I went to Craig, Alaska. I was on the Prince

0:55:36.880 --> 0:55:39.400
<v Speaker 2>of Wales Island, so it was about an hour and

0:55:39.440 --> 0:55:42.560
<v Speaker 2>a half away from Catchkan, which is like a big

0:55:44.520 --> 0:55:48.600
<v Speaker 2>port area of cruise lines and stuff there.

0:55:49.719 --> 0:55:54.480
<v Speaker 1>Someone said, Oh, this is interesting. So how would not

0:55:54.680 --> 0:55:58.759
<v Speaker 1>having to make money change your relationship to cooking? Like,

0:55:58.880 --> 0:56:00.920
<v Speaker 1>would you cook even if you didn't have to?

0:56:03.239 --> 0:56:03.439
<v Speaker 3>Uh?

0:56:04.680 --> 0:56:06.879
<v Speaker 2>Probably not. I'm not going to lie to you. I'm

0:56:06.880 --> 0:56:09.760
<v Speaker 2>a picky eater, so like me being a chef doesn't

0:56:09.840 --> 0:56:16.760
<v Speaker 2>make sense because I am a strict, extremely picky eater. Uh.

0:56:16.800 --> 0:56:23.840
<v Speaker 2>So I enjoy I enjoy the the joy that people

0:56:23.840 --> 0:56:26.799
<v Speaker 2>get on their faces when they have good food. So

0:56:27.560 --> 0:56:30.360
<v Speaker 2>I guess my love language is just doing for people

0:56:30.400 --> 0:56:33.600
<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that. It doesn't have to necessarily be cooking.

0:56:34.520 --> 0:56:36.680
<v Speaker 1>So wants to know, Uh, well, a couple people will

0:56:36.680 --> 0:56:39.440
<v Speaker 1>asked what your favorite dish is to cook, and then

0:56:39.480 --> 0:56:43.280
<v Speaker 1>someone said, what is the weirdest thing you have ever cooked?

0:56:45.760 --> 0:56:50.239
<v Speaker 2>My favorite dish is chicken marsala, the Italian version, not

0:56:50.320 --> 0:56:57.000
<v Speaker 2>the Indian version, and the weirdest thing God ever cooked.

0:56:57.520 --> 0:57:07.520
<v Speaker 2>M Well, I don't know. I saw these this thing

0:57:07.600 --> 0:57:12.040
<v Speaker 2>this lady made on Instagram. It was shrimp shrimp albundius,

0:57:12.080 --> 0:57:15.839
<v Speaker 2>which is basically like shrimp meatballs, and I did them

0:57:15.840 --> 0:57:19.600
<v Speaker 2>as an amuse for the restaurant that I was working at,

0:57:19.640 --> 0:57:21.919
<v Speaker 2>and they actually turned out really freaking good.

0:57:23.760 --> 0:57:27.439
<v Speaker 1>Uh, this one. Uh, this is totally totally up to you.

0:57:27.680 --> 0:57:33.080
<v Speaker 1>But somebody asked if you have a social media presence

0:57:33.600 --> 0:57:37.480
<v Speaker 1>because they're very inspired by your lifestyle. Uh, if you

0:57:37.560 --> 0:57:41.360
<v Speaker 1>want to be flooded with with gecko people, you're you're

0:57:41.480 --> 0:57:42.320
<v Speaker 1>You're welcome to.

0:57:44.640 --> 0:57:48.720
<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah sure. My Instagram handle was Met on the

0:57:48.800 --> 0:57:52.000
<v Speaker 2>Moon eight one six. My profile is public, so I

0:57:52.160 --> 0:57:54.040
<v Speaker 2>just post a lot of memes and stuff like that.

0:57:54.120 --> 0:57:56.800
<v Speaker 2>But it does have a fair amount of stuff that

0:57:56.840 --> 0:57:57.320
<v Speaker 2>I've done.

0:57:58.200 --> 0:58:04.400
<v Speaker 1>I get Matt Man on the Moon, Man on the

0:58:04.440 --> 0:58:08.360
<v Speaker 1>Moon eight one six, is that kid cutting reference?

0:58:08.920 --> 0:58:12.400
<v Speaker 2>Yes, sir, yes, sir, My guy live front.

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<v Speaker 1>Row, Like, all right, we gotta get him on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to get him in a get Go suit

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<v Speaker 1>maybe one.

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<v Speaker 2>Day, Yeah for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Well Ron, Ron, it was fucking seriously, it's awesome talking

0:58:27.440 --> 0:58:30.640
<v Speaker 1>to you. Thanks for telling us the journey of your life.

0:58:30.760 --> 0:58:33.920
<v Speaker 1>I really do like it would be so cool to

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<v Speaker 1>me if like I get a DM like six months

0:58:37.720 --> 0:58:40.960
<v Speaker 1>after this podcast airs of someone being like yo, I

0:58:41.000 --> 0:58:44.160
<v Speaker 1>went on that website that Ron was talking about and uh,

0:58:44.600 --> 0:58:48.680
<v Speaker 1>now I live in uh fucking Costa Rica or whatever,

0:58:48.800 --> 0:58:52.959
<v Speaker 1>and I'm married and you know whatever, that'd be cool

0:58:53.040 --> 0:58:55.560
<v Speaker 1>if someone like actually does some shit off of.

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<v Speaker 2>This, maybe I'll directtion it. Yeah, anybody, if you want

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<v Speaker 2>to go travel, get on cool works dot com. Uh.

0:59:05.400 --> 0:59:10.000
<v Speaker 2>There's all kinds of different states, Rhode Island, uh, freaking

0:59:10.760 --> 0:59:12.680
<v Speaker 2>anywhere you want to go in the US. There's more

0:59:12.720 --> 0:59:16.000
<v Speaker 2>than likely a job there that you can do. Uh.

0:59:16.040 --> 0:59:18.720
<v Speaker 2>There's places that you can live and eat for free

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<v Speaker 2>and just make money.

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<v Speaker 1>Ron, my friend, is there anything else you want to

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<v Speaker 1>say to the people of the computer before we go.

0:59:27.800 --> 0:59:32.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm always just stay persistent in your and your goals

0:59:32.360 --> 0:59:34.920
<v Speaker 2>and your dreams. You guys, if you got something that

0:59:34.960 --> 0:59:37.440
<v Speaker 2>you want to through, see it through. You may be

0:59:37.640 --> 0:59:40.560
<v Speaker 2>uncomfortable at the time game, but at the end of

0:59:40.600 --> 0:59:41.680
<v Speaker 2>the day, it'll be worth it.

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<v Speaker 1>Ron You're hero, your legend. Thanks for thanks for your

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<v Speaker 1>time and uh mozeltov On on the Beautiful life and

0:59:50.600 --> 0:59:51.520
<v Speaker 1>the Beautiful family.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you well, it was an honor talking to you.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been trying for a long time, so thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>They have a good night. Oh what a call. What

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<v Speaker 1>a guy. That was one of my favorite calls we've

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<v Speaker 1>we've had in a while. That's really my favorite thing

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<v Speaker 1>about doing this podcast is like, uh, I know that

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<v Speaker 1>though the way this podcast is framed can sometimes be

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<v Speaker 1>like that it's like an advice podcast, and it definitely

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<v Speaker 1>uh exkews that way a lot of the time. But

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<v Speaker 1>I've said this before. My favorite thing about doing what

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<v Speaker 1>I do is that I get to, you know, not

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<v Speaker 1>only interact with people in a way where I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>getting to soak up the lived experience of other people

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<v Speaker 1>you know, all around the world, but also that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>part of that conversation is broadcasted to a bunch of people, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>such as you listening to this, who are also getting

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<v Speaker 1>to learn from other people's learned experience, lived experience. It's

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<v Speaker 1>really cool. It's really cool. So thank you very much

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<v Speaker 1>Ron for sharing your story. I'm gonna check out this

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<v Speaker 1>coolworks dot com thing because really, like if I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>doing what I do now, that like serious, like if

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow it was just like my podcast was scrubbed from

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<v Speaker 1>the Internet or whatever, like and I couldn't do this anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>that probably is what I would do. It's like just

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<v Speaker 1>be like, well fuck it, let's go to uh Alaska

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<v Speaker 1>and see what the hell's going on over there. So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, maybe I'll check it out. Very nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Do I have anything else to say?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>I could say that was cool again, that was cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I did enjoy that, and thank you for listening. Hello.

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<v Speaker 3>How's it going?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there? What's your name?

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<v Speaker 3>My name is Zach, Zach.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up, Zach? How you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Not much? I just graduated at MTSU. He actually came

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<v Speaker 3>and visited.

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<v Speaker 1>Us Falk dude. Ah man, you know, sometimes I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like a piece of shit and then I'm like, oh wait,

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<v Speaker 1>actually I've done a lot of cool things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>That happened to me recently. I was like, I like

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking to somebody about Middle Tennessee State University,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh yeah, that was only like

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<v Speaker 1>a couple months ago, and that was awesome. That was

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<v Speaker 1>a great time. Had a great time at that show.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you there?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I was.

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<v Speaker 3>I was in like the back. I showed up late

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<v Speaker 3>with like one of my friends and it was it

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<v Speaker 3>was It was a good show. I mean, your National

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<v Speaker 3>show was way better.

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<v Speaker 1>I was also there really which Nashville, Yeah, the one

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<v Speaker 1>where Insane Posse showed up? Oh yeah, the one the

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<v Speaker 1>one was checking. Yeah, I love that one.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a good fun.

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<v Speaker 2>How did you hook that up?

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<v Speaker 3>How did you get Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he and I had been talking about because they're

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<v Speaker 1>in Detroit, and he and I had been talking about

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<v Speaker 1>me doing something with them like on the podcast, but

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<v Speaker 1>then it just both happened to be in Nashville at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, and so he came on. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>that was so cool. That was one of the sickest.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a great time at that show. That was

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<v Speaker 1>so cool. I think that was the only time we've

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<v Speaker 1>ever had like a like celebrity guest on a live

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<v Speaker 1>show before.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that was like so impressive. I mean, and then

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<v Speaker 3>we had like two marriage proposals, like right after.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that one was like nuts, that was fun. That

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<v Speaker 1>was fun. Yeah, I had a great time at that

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<v Speaker 1>uh at that college show. Those are good. That was

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<v Speaker 1>that was good. Well, okay, so you just graduated and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you doing? Are you depressed?

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, don't worry. I'm on I'm on the

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<v Speaker 3>good side of like calls today.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean like looking for like a job and stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>but I kind of just want to do uh a

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<v Speaker 3>thing called like jet program. We're just like teaching English

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<v Speaker 3>and like Japan.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the guy we just talked to was uh like

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like kind of talking about those kinds of things.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I I applied in like November, and now I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just like sitting around waiting until they get back to me,

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<v Speaker 3>which is like they do uh they do it in waves,

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<v Speaker 3>so like in like country by country, like South Africa

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<v Speaker 3>like heard back first and then the UK people just

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<v Speaker 3>heard about it, and then I'm just sitting around waiting around.

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<v Speaker 3>But I want to do it with like my partner

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<v Speaker 3>because we're both like just interested in living in Japan,

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<v Speaker 3>like traveling around and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Really cool, really cool way Japan.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, mostly just because of the culture and stuff. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>like I like the United States, but I want to dip,

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's just kind of uncomfortable here in Tennessee. I

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<v Speaker 3>guess I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Japan kicks ass. Japan's a great place to hang out in.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know a whole lot about Like I only

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<v Speaker 1>learned like a few Japanese phrases. But I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>with languages, it's like if you really kind of go

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<v Speaker 1>at it for a year, you can you can do

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good. Are you well, you're not trying to learn

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<v Speaker 1>in Japanese? You want to teach English in Japanese in Japan?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So they don't have like many requirements like if

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<v Speaker 3>you want to like go to like South Korea or

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<v Speaker 3>anything like that, they require you to like do like

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<v Speaker 3>a TfL like course which is like one hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>twenty hours, but like you can do in like six months.

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<v Speaker 3>But we're also looking at those opportunities. But like all

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<v Speaker 3>those conversations started from like oh maybe maybe like Peace

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<v Speaker 3>Corps or something like that. I don't know. And we've

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<v Speaker 3>been applying around just saying what we want to put

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<v Speaker 3>ourselves forward towards.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think, yeah, with a lot of those

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<v Speaker 1>like ESL programs, it's interesting because I am. I do

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<v Speaker 1>know that a lot of them don't require you to

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<v Speaker 1>speak the language that you're teaching the people to, which

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<v Speaker 1>is crazy because when I was in eighth grade, I

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<v Speaker 1>took a Spanish class and that lady spoke English. Well, well, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you like you know, like like with like in America,

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<v Speaker 1>like all the like, like when you were in middle school,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to take like Spanish or French or some shit.

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<v Speaker 3>I took German at high school.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you're German high school teacher. She spoke English, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh yeah, she like grew up here in America then

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<v Speaker 3>like went over to like Germany, and then I got

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<v Speaker 3>like a second teacher that had like committed his whole

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<v Speaker 3>life to like living in Germany and then coming back here.

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<v Speaker 1>But like that would be crazy. If they just had

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<v Speaker 1>a just fully one hundred percent German lady come in

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<v Speaker 1>and just speak German to the whole time, you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>learn anything.

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<v Speaker 3>My girlfriend, when she took like French at the high school,

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<v Speaker 3>they originally had like this like very country person teaching

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<v Speaker 3>like French, and apparently like after she got replaced by

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<v Speaker 3>a real French person, it was very very hard to

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<v Speaker 3>like transition to students because they had like created like

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<v Speaker 3>bad habits and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean, here's the thing with like learning the languages.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's not that bad to like learn

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<v Speaker 1>it badly, Like like the the grammar doesn't really matter.

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<v Speaker 1>If you speak a broken second language, as as an American,

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<v Speaker 1>then you're doing pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I had to learn a little bit of Spanish for

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<v Speaker 3>working at like a paint.

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<v Speaker 2>Store that I worked at.

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<v Speaker 3>But like I'm like kind of adjusted towards like picking

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<v Speaker 3>up like phrases and like, yeah, just like the culture

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<v Speaker 3>surrounding it.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess when I feel like when you try to

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<v Speaker 1>learn another language and then like you're talking to like

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<v Speaker 1>foreign people who are speaking English to you, you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this person's actually pretty fucking good at English.

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<v Speaker 3>They're all shy about it too, Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's cool, man. I'm glad to hear that your

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<v Speaker 1>life is glad to hear that you're not depressed and

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<v Speaker 1>you're about to do a cool thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's what I'm trying to do.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's hard.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, like giving up like opportunities to like hang

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<v Speaker 3>out with my dogs and stuff or like my family

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<v Speaker 3>just to like jump ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you're right, you're twenty two, twenty four, twenty four. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but if yeah, I mean, but you know, life's for living.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, that last call was great for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, brother, my friend, is there anything else you want

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<v Speaker 1>to say to the people of the computer before we go.

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<v Speaker 3>Get out there? And uh, actually we'll throw this out

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<v Speaker 3>uh google the High Face. I grew up in that religion,

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<v Speaker 3>the High One out there. Yeah, so it's a it's

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<v Speaker 3>a religion that's like uh uh they believe in like

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<v Speaker 3>the nine major religions, and I just want to put

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<v Speaker 3>that word out there. Oh happy hankut to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh thanks man. Wait, they just rolled all their religions

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<v Speaker 1>up into one fucking ball and it's just the High Face.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, pretty much.

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<v Speaker 3>They were like uh talking about like how uh uh

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<v Speaker 3>the Word of God goes through many different prophets, and

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<v Speaker 3>like how every like country or like culture has like

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<v Speaker 3>had a prophet, whether it's passed down orally or like

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<v Speaker 3>traditionally through like writing and stuff. And it was a

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<v Speaker 3>really really cool religion to grow up in.

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<v Speaker 1>M hm, the hind Do you still believe? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>still believe in? Do you still believe in the High Faith?

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<v Speaker 3>I would say yes, I'm definitely surrounded by like a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people that aren't like, uh, you know, super religious,

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<v Speaker 3>but I generally believe that, like it's important to like

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<v Speaker 3>share your voice and like all the values that they

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<v Speaker 3>like taught early on. I guess, so I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>Uh I, I don't know. We live in like a

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<v Speaker 3>perfect world with like perfect conditions for everything.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, do you really believe that.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of I mean, uh, if I kind of that,

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<v Speaker 3>that's a bad answer. I should say yes or no,

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<v Speaker 3>but yes, I don't know. Maybe I'm watching too many

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<v Speaker 3>YouTube shorts with like those science guys saying, uh uh,

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<v Speaker 3>can you believe the the I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I will well hold on. I not to you

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<v Speaker 1>lose faith in literally what you're just saying right now.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's cool that your YouTube shorts algorithm is sending

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<v Speaker 1>you videos about how the world is awesome and perfect

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<v Speaker 1>because most I don't know if I'm probably not alone

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<v Speaker 1>in this, but most of the internet content I get

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<v Speaker 1>fed is about how the world is horrible and we're

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<v Speaker 1>all going to die.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, I do watch a lot of car crash compilations.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, you gotta balance it out, Yeah, Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>have one final question, why do you believe the world

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<v Speaker 1>is perfect as it is?

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<v Speaker 3>I guess I've been just living life on like easy

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<v Speaker 3>mode and I haven't really been like traumatized or really.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I've talked to other people about like trauma

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<v Speaker 3>and stuff, but it's ever been at like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>my own personal experiences have been amazing, and I always

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<v Speaker 3>try to look at like saying yes to like opportunities

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<v Speaker 3>and those of like always because originally I didn't. I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't say yes to like all the opportunities that were

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<v Speaker 3>like presented to me, And I think, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>I just I'm surrounded by amazing people and an amazing partner,

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<v Speaker 3>good family that support me. I mean, I'm graduating debt

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<v Speaker 3>free and I know a lot of people don't have

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<v Speaker 3>that opportunity. But uh, I don't know, I just kind

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<v Speaker 3>of live in like a pretty perfect world.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm happy for you, man. Maybe it's the maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>High Faith is Maybe the High Faith is what led

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<v Speaker 1>you to this. Maybe. Yeah, this episode, everyone's gonna check

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<v Speaker 1>out the High Faith, and they're going to check out

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<v Speaker 1>that other website cool works, Yeah, cool works, cool Works,

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<v Speaker 1>and the High Faith.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, you're gonna check it out too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm gonna check outn check out both of those websites.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to do. I don't want to do

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<v Speaker 1>while I'm on the phone with you, because I think

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<v Speaker 1>that would be rude. But that sounds like a good

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do both of those things

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as I get off of recording this. What's

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<v Speaker 1>your name again, it's Zach, Zach. Zach. Thanks for sharing

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<v Speaker 1>your life with us on this podcast today.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you, Le.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there anything else you want to say to the

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<v Speaker 1>people of the computer before we go?

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<v Speaker 3>I've said my words.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that it's confident, UH make may all of

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<v Speaker 1>the gods of the nine major religions bless you, and

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<v Speaker 1>UH have a good rest of your life.

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<v Speaker 3>Here you kill me?

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<v Speaker 2>Bye?

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<v Speaker 1>That was nice. That was really nice. Yeah. I also

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<v Speaker 1>I thought about doing like English as a second language

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<v Speaker 1>teaching shit too, But I always thought it was crazy

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<v Speaker 1>that you don't have to, like, like, if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to teach English to people who only speak Spanish, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't even have to know Spanish. But like, if I

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<v Speaker 1>was in high school and I had a Spanish teacher,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't speak English, I'd be like, what is this

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<v Speaker 1>lady talk about, never goes on the line, taking your

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<v Speaker 1>phone calls every night, Everything goes to and and I

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<v Speaker 1>I was

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<v Speaker 3>Teaching your cloud in the mean of your life that

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<v Speaker 3>he's not really an expert.