Speaker 1: What's up man? How you doing.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty good yourself.
Speaker 1: You know, I am trying my best. I am having
Speaker 1: new epiphanies about life every single day, some of them
Speaker 1: contradicting each other. Sometimes it feels like, you know, sometimes
Speaker 1: I feel like I have like a life epiphany, and
Speaker 1: then tomorrow I have the opposite one. In the day
Speaker 1: after that, I have the original one. And it's like
Speaker 1: I'm going in complete circles. But maybe maybe I'm like
Speaker 1: going in circles. I'm trying to, like with words describe
Speaker 1: how I see this visually, Like you know, I'm like
Speaker 1: going in circles, but the circles are moving a little
Speaker 1: bit to the right every time, So it's like a
Speaker 1: loop that event Yeah, it's like a loop that just
Speaker 1: event that goes eventually moves forward in that way. You know,
Speaker 1: you kind of visualize what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have different epiphanies every single day, so the
Speaker 2: light is always seeming to throw a little bit of
Speaker 2: a loop at you.
Speaker 1: I see that you are not a plus one area code.
Speaker 1: Where are you calling from?
Speaker 2: I'm calling from Australia. I moved to Australia about three
Speaker 2: years ago.
Speaker 1: Okay, are you American.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm from Kansas City.
Speaker 1: Cool. Where and where in Australia did you move?
Speaker 2: I moved to Sydney, so one of the most expensive cities.
Speaker 3: In the world.
Speaker 1: And why did you move from Why did you move
Speaker 1: from Kansas City, which is not one of the most
Speaker 1: expensive cities in the world to sid.
Speaker 2: So I'm actually like one of your other callers that
Speaker 2: called it like a like probably like ten podcasts ago
Speaker 2: get the whole cool work steme and I ended up
Speaker 2: in Alaster and then I just started traveling around the
Speaker 2: you asked working at different places, different resorts, and that
Speaker 2: led me to eventually you know then like a few
Speaker 2: other people on here and been like, oh, I want
Speaker 2: to go to Australia. So I ended up in Australia.
Speaker 2: I'm a chef, so I've been cooking for about three
Speaker 2: years out here.
Speaker 1: Cool. Very cool. You said you were like one of
Speaker 1: the other callers that did the what thing.
Speaker 2: So you know the caller who went up to what
Speaker 2: is that Yellowstone and he was just working out there
Speaker 2: and yeah, so that same website. I went and got
Speaker 2: a job off when I was twenty one, so I'm
Speaker 2: well twenty seven, so I'm thirty four and now and
Speaker 2: I've been doing the whole traveling thinking about eight years.
Speaker 1: Now, how's that going for you? Because I think a
Speaker 1: lot about what a fully nomadic life would be like,
Speaker 1: and I've been in periods of time in my life
Speaker 1: in which I felt very nomadic, and I'm curious, eight years,
Speaker 1: how does that work out for you? How are you
Speaker 1: feeling about it?
Speaker 2: Oh? Man, you kind of uh, you really get used
Speaker 2: to traveling and just keeping the minimum amount of stuff.
Speaker 2: Like my whole life up until these last three years
Speaker 2: could fit in three or four suitcases and I would
Speaker 2: just get up and go. I'm driven across the US,
Speaker 2: like four times I used to live in Oregon, drove
Speaker 2: down to Florida, like the very tip of Florida, that
Speaker 2: work down there. You really, uh, you really get to
Speaker 2: know outside of yourself that a lot of people won't
Speaker 2: know because they're never alone so much and celebrating holidays
Speaker 2: and all that stuff. You really got to grow a
Speaker 2: family outside of your family.
Speaker 1: Do you have a family.
Speaker 2: I actually just found out my girlfriend and here in Australia,
Speaker 2: is pregnant.
Speaker 1: No way, yeah, so are you are you go? Are
Speaker 1: you having the baby?
Speaker 2: Yeah? We are? Wait so I actually it was a
Speaker 2: whole spill. I just quit my job last week and
Speaker 2: I have another job lined up, and uh, pretty much
Speaker 2: two days after I quit my job, she's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm pregnant and we're moving about eight hours away from
Speaker 2: Sydney right now, So we got a whole.
Speaker 1: Where are you going to move?
Speaker 2: We're headed up to Balina. I don't know if you
Speaker 2: made it up to like the Byron Bay, Ballina area
Speaker 2: while you were here.
Speaker 1: No, but I heard about Byron Bays. That's like where
Speaker 1: all the no, I'm thinking of Bondi Beach, that's where
Speaker 1: all the like tours go to die.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Byron Bay is also another popular spot. It's
Speaker 2: where Chris employd and Hugh Jackman, they all live out there.
Speaker 1: And so this, uh, this lovely lady. Did you meet
Speaker 1: her in Australia?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so we actually met on the apps. I
Speaker 2: know a lot of people have a lot of trouble
Speaker 2: about meeting people on the apps, but it's it's more
Speaker 2: of a persistence game and a numbers game than it
Speaker 2: is you know, finding somebody right away. You know how
Speaker 2: many the apps for a long time?
Speaker 1: How many appdates did you go on until you met
Speaker 1: your girlfriends.
Speaker 2: Uh whoosh, Jesus, probably over one hundred easily over wow?
Speaker 1: Really over one hundred?
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah, But I'm I'm an old man, so
Speaker 2: I've been using them. It's pretty much they came out
Speaker 2: and I've been in different cities.
Speaker 1: And what was it about this one that made it
Speaker 1: different from the other one hundred?
Speaker 2: She was just pretty awesome. Like, honestly, all the girl
Speaker 2: all the app dates that I've been on in Australia
Speaker 2: have been pretty fruitful, like updated somebody that I've pretty
Speaker 2: much met every single time. But she was she was
Speaker 2: just different man, Like I didn't have to be stone
Speaker 2: to be around her and like all that stuff. So
Speaker 2: it just kind of really worked out when I first
Speaker 2: met her. We met on Australia Day and we ended
Speaker 2: up hanging out for like six and a half hours.
Speaker 1: Now, what is Australia Date? You guys don't just have
Speaker 1: like Hinge and Tinder.
Speaker 2: Australia Day. It's like, uh, it's a holiday. So Australia
Speaker 2: Day is like Independence Day or like Columbus Day.
Speaker 1: Oh oh oh oh oh wait you met up on
Speaker 1: Australia Day. Yeah, okay, I thought you said you met
Speaker 1: her on a website called Australia Date.
Speaker 2: No, we we actually met on Hinge.
Speaker 1: Okay you understand, Okay, you understand. You understand where that
Speaker 1: misunderstanding came from, right, Yeah, for sure, I was like, what,
Speaker 1: I guess there's a website where you can just date Australian.
Speaker 1: What was the other The other thing you said is
Speaker 1: you said that you felt like you had to be
Speaker 1: high to be around some of these people. Tell me
Speaker 1: more about that.
Speaker 2: Well, I used to actually this year stop smoking weed
Speaker 2: as well. So, uh, I was just stoned all the time, man,
Speaker 2: and like just being around people, and I felt like
Speaker 2: that wasn't the only way I could communicate with people
Speaker 2: because I was constantly stoned, and maybe nobody would like
Speaker 2: me if I was constantly stoned. And yeah, the first
Speaker 2: time I was ever around her, I just wasn't stoned,
Speaker 2: and it was it was a real eye opener. It
Speaker 2: was an epissan if you, like you said where I
Speaker 2: was like, okay, I can do this, m m. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Was as anxious?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Was it was it that you just kind of felt
Speaker 1: a constant state of anxiety and weed was like the
Speaker 1: only way to get past it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And actually, uh, once I stopped smoking and I
Speaker 2: got away from the weed. Actually the anxiety actually went down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so the weave.
Speaker 2: Was actually making me really paranoid, at which I didn't
Speaker 2: notice because you know, I'm waking up smoking three or
Speaker 2: four bulls, going to work on my breaks, smoke some more,
Speaker 2: smoke some more before I go to sleep. So I
Speaker 2: was just like in constant marijuana hayes.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmmm hm. Yes, what what made you want to quit? Recently?
Speaker 2: I ran a marathon. I ran a marathon, and uh,
Speaker 2: in order to prepare for the marathon, I just cut back,
Speaker 2: cut back to back, and I, uh, before I had
Speaker 2: a kate, This is before I knew I was having
Speaker 2: a kid. I just didn't want to like smoke around
Speaker 2: my kid or you know, be a stoner. I don't
Speaker 2: care about like smoking weed every so often or whatever
Speaker 2: like that, but like I just didn't want to be
Speaker 2: like a stone dad. M So it all worked out, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was. It was. It was more so that I
Speaker 2: was smoking nicotine with the marijuana, and I wanted to
Speaker 2: play it away from that. So yeah, yeah, exactly, I
Speaker 2: wanted to get away from that. I always told myself
Speaker 2: I wouldn't smoke nicotine. But you know, we do things
Speaker 2: in life that we said we wouldn't do.
Speaker 1: How long was your weed career prior to.
Speaker 2: Quit, probably like thirteen years?
Speaker 1: Yeah, every day?
Speaker 2: Initially, no, but once so I moved out to Oregon
Speaker 2: when I was about twenty three, and the weed is
Speaker 2: so cheap out there and it's so good that you know,
Speaker 2: it just kind of let me down a rabbit hole
Speaker 2: and smoking more and more blah blah blah. So it's
Speaker 2: been it's been quite a journey.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The part about anxietyety like you smoke weed to alleviate anxiety,
Speaker 1: but then you find that this weird converse way. It's
Speaker 1: like you get high and then you get more anxious
Speaker 1: and more parentally exactly. But and I and I wonder,
Speaker 1: and again this is not the Andrew Huberman podcast, but
Speaker 1: I do wonder, is like, is weed making me is
Speaker 1: like a self fulfilling prophecy, where like weed makes me
Speaker 1: anxious on the days that I am not smoking as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I was fine in too. And it
Speaker 2: is because they say, like marijuana is an addictive and
Speaker 2: that was like in you know, the nineteen seventies where
Speaker 2: the weed wasn't thirty six percent and thc and stuff
Speaker 2: like that, and you know, it's just a lot more accessible,
Speaker 2: a lot more open. It's not what it used to be.
Speaker 2: So I think as it becomes stronger, it does become
Speaker 2: more addictive, especially you're young and you're using. I definitely
Speaker 2: think that your body can get like dependent on having that.
Speaker 2: It may not be you know, uh, as physically of
Speaker 2: a bad addiction as like heroin or other opie images
Speaker 2: stuff like that, but like the mental addiction is what
Speaker 2: I think gets a lot of people in strays, keeps
Speaker 2: on from quitting and stuff like that, because it is.
Speaker 2: It was very hard, and a large part of it,
Speaker 2: like I told you, was the nicotine for me. And
Speaker 2: then you're smoking blunts and stuff like that, then you're
Speaker 2: definitely getting like that constant like nicotine high to where
Speaker 2: you're not even noticing, and uh, it would be definitely
Speaker 2: a lot harder for you to quit.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm hmm. Have you replaced it with anything else,
Speaker 1: whether it's something negative or positive.
Speaker 2: Well, honestly, I just been focusing on life, being able
Speaker 2: to run longer, like I said, I've been during marathon.
Speaker 2: So this year I'm training for an iron Man and
Speaker 2: just stuff like that trying to keep my body busy,
Speaker 2: trying to keep my mind busy. It's like you said,
Speaker 2: with masturvation, as long as you're out of the house,
Speaker 2: you're not thinking about it.
Speaker 1: I love the fuck it. I love the things. I
Speaker 1: love the things that I just fucking say on this podcast,
Speaker 1: not really really not registering that anyone actually hears them.
Speaker 1: And then and then someone says, remember when you said
Speaker 1: that you should just be out of the house as
Speaker 1: much as you can so you don't masturbate as much,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, yeah, you really did say that
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, and you know, and I fully stand
Speaker 1: by it. I stand by it a lot because it's true.
Speaker 1: Whenever I'm in the house, you know, it's uh, it's
Speaker 1: a problem. But I don't do it outside because that's
Speaker 1: a weak. Yeah. I think I would. I'd like to
Speaker 1: think even if I'd like to think, even if it
Speaker 1: wasn't illegal, I still wouldn't do it outside. But I
Speaker 1: don't know. Who knows what life is like. It might
Speaker 1: be kind. I mean, people do it, people definitely, even
Speaker 1: though it's illegal, People definitely do it. People people do it.
Speaker 1: I saw a guy jacking off on Venice Beach once,
Speaker 1: and you know what the crazy thing is is nobody cared.
Speaker 1: Nobody cared at all because it's what they expect. It's
Speaker 1: like when you see it's like if when you're walking
Speaker 1: through New York and you're on the subway, if you
Speaker 1: just see guy masturbating, you're kind of like, at least
Speaker 1: I'm kind of like, well that it's not It's like
Speaker 1: seeing a palm tree in Florida. You know, it's like,
Speaker 1: this is what it is?
Speaker 2: This is it?
Speaker 1: Nobody people are just on their phones. No one really
Speaker 1: they avoid them, but they just you know, everyone's just
Speaker 1: trying to get to where they want to be. So, uh,
Speaker 1: what do you what's your job now? You're still a chef, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I've been a chef for about, yeah, thirteen years. So
Speaker 2: in the entire time i've been chefing, I've been smoking weed. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I never went to culinary school or anything. If anybody
Speaker 2: is listening, they want to become a chef, just get
Speaker 2: a job in a kitchen. Deep, So to go to
Speaker 2: culinary school.
Speaker 1: What's your name again, I'm not going to forget this time.
Speaker 2: My name is Ron.
Speaker 3: Ron.
Speaker 1: That's my dad's name.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Ron, give me a map, So you graduate high
Speaker 4: school at eighteen, and then you're running around for a while.
Speaker 1: Where all did you run around to?
Speaker 2: So from eighteen twenty one, I stayed in Kansas City.
Speaker 2: When I was twenty one, I actually smoked a shit
Speaker 2: ton of weed one night and I ended up getting
Speaker 2: on a grade Hound and moving to Order and.
Speaker 1: You just I don't breeze past the story.
Speaker 2: So you just.
Speaker 1: Got really like what you're in your mom's house or
Speaker 1: you're where are you like? And you just get really
Speaker 1: hot outside that night to move.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I'm I'm a hot box in the car
Speaker 2: with my friend. We probably smoked like five or six months.
Speaker 2: And I get home and it's like an Alexati experience
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I don't know, I can't be here anymore.
Speaker 2: I't my life is going to pass me by if
Speaker 2: I don't leave right now. So I packed the backpack
Speaker 2: full of clothes, drove down to the Greyhound station and
Speaker 2: bought a ticket to Organ because I was supposed to
Speaker 2: go with an ex girlfriend and we got broken up.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, no, I don't want to stay
Speaker 2: in Kansas City. I'm going anyway.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: And I didn't know anybody. I didn't have a plan
Speaker 2: or anything like that. I ended up surviving out there
Speaker 2: for eight months before I had to go home. My
Speaker 2: sister told me, like, you could say, at my house
Speaker 2: for three months for free, or you can go back
Speaker 2: out to Oregon. And yeah, I ended up taking that
Speaker 2: three months learning to cook at waffle house, and then
Speaker 2: I went back out to Oregon and I ended up
Speaker 2: getting a job in six days working in the kitchen.
Speaker 2: So it was off to the races after.
Speaker 1: Then the first those first eight months that you were
Speaker 1: surviving in Oregon, after just that night packing up and
Speaker 1: you just what you showed up with a backpack and yep,
Speaker 1: that's it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had two hundred and eighty dollars in my pocket.
Speaker 2: I actually I had like couldn't cocted a plan on
Speaker 2: the bus where like after I woke up. Either it
Speaker 2: was Stony Hays where I'm like, oh shit, I'm on
Speaker 2: my way to Oregon. So I was like, Okay, let
Speaker 2: me see if I can you know, play nice enough
Speaker 2: or you know, show off my personality to eat to
Speaker 2: where somebody will let me crash on their couch. And yeah,
Speaker 2: that's exactly what happened. One of the chicks on the bus,
Speaker 2: she's like, you look extremely young. I know you're coming
Speaker 2: out here to survive and try to figure it out.
Speaker 2: But if you ever need a place to stay, there's
Speaker 2: my number and give me a call. I stayed one
Speaker 2: night in the hotel, gave her a call, and then
Speaker 2: she let me crash on her couch for about two
Speaker 2: months until I got on my feet.
Speaker 1: You met a woman on the Greyhound bus to Oregon
Speaker 1: that you ended up staying with for two months?
Speaker 2: Yeah, on her couch. Yeah it was. It was one
Speaker 2: of the thirtiest places I've ever stayed. But you know,
Speaker 2: at the end of the at the end of the night,
Speaker 2: I was able to sleep somewhere with a roof over
Speaker 2: my head, and I was happy. They were some of
Speaker 2: the nicest people I've ever.
Speaker 1: Met who was in this house.
Speaker 2: It was her and her girlfriend at the time.
Speaker 1: That's so wild. That's they just You've just got so
Speaker 1: you got really lucky on that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did. And I Oregon gives out food stamps
Speaker 2: like their water, so I was just paying for rent
Speaker 2: those first two months and food stamps. I'm like, I
Speaker 2: get two hundred and fifty dollars worth of food stamps.
Speaker 2: This is all I can afford to give you. You
Speaker 2: can have it all. Here's the cart.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: And then once I got a job, I got lucky
Speaker 2: again because my boss at that job was like, hey,
Speaker 2: I need a roommate. Cool, how much is rent? And
Speaker 2: rent was about three hundred dollars. So I'm working at
Speaker 2: seven eleven and working with my boss.
Speaker 1: And what year is this?
Speaker 2: This is two thousand and twelve slash thirteen.
Speaker 1: Wow? And so when you all right, so you got
Speaker 1: on a Greyhound bus and go to Oregon. You meet
Speaker 1: this lady? How soon after you arrived did you get
Speaker 1: a job? And then how'd you get that?
Speaker 2: Two months? And I was just walking around adding, as
Speaker 2: you know, going out giving out my resumes and stuff
Speaker 2: like that, because the internet isn't as crazy as it
Speaker 2: is now even ten years ago. So I'm just walking
Speaker 2: around giving out my resume. Hey, my name is Ron.
Speaker 2: If you need anybody to work, I'm your guy. The
Speaker 2: place was actually about two and a half miles from
Speaker 2: my house, so I'm walking to Mount two and a
Speaker 2: half miles to work two and a half miles back
Speaker 2: every single day.
Speaker 1: Really.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Eventually I got a skateboard to make it a
Speaker 2: little bit easier, so that was my car. But yeah,
Speaker 2: worked in eight ten hours every single day.
Speaker 1: Damn dude. How long were you there for?
Speaker 5: All?
Speaker 1: Eight months?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah? And then I went back home to Kansas
Speaker 2: City for a bit, and then I ended up going
Speaker 2: back out to Oregon and beginning my journey as a chef.
Speaker 1: What did that look like? Beginning your journey as a chef?
Speaker 1: By the way, just so you know, Ron, I don't
Speaker 1: know what your plans are for tonight, but I'm fully
Speaker 1: prepared for this entire podcast episode of your life because
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by you.
Speaker 2: So yeah, thank you loud, thank you. Aud So, after
Speaker 2: I got back, like I told you, I had to
Speaker 2: start cooking at the waffle house. I know you're from
Speaker 2: like the Northeast area. I don't know if you've been
Speaker 2: to a waffle house.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I used to. They have in Georgia where
Speaker 1: I was a lot.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, So I was working there, working nights, and
Speaker 2: I told my sister while I had been out in Oregon,
Speaker 2: I had heard chefs that were, you know, making thirteen
Speaker 2: fourteen dollars an hour at the time, I'm like, that's
Speaker 2: good money. So I told my sister teach me how
Speaker 2: to cook. And then when I got back to Oregon,
Speaker 2: I was working at a barbecue joint. It wasn't really fulfilling,
Speaker 2: so I started working at a restaurant called Goostops. It's
Speaker 2: closed now. It was a German spot. I had no
Speaker 2: knowledge of them and food anything of the sorts. But
Speaker 2: my chef, she uh looked at me and she's like,
Speaker 2: you know, normally only hired people with a culinary degree,
Speaker 2: but you see, you got a little bit of cooking experience.
Speaker 2: You seem like you got your head on your shoulders.
Speaker 2: So I'm going to give you a trial. And I
Speaker 2: went in there and I just you know, killed. It
Speaker 2: followed everything and everybody was settling me. H went straight
Speaker 2: to the line. I wasn't doing dishes, I wasn't doing prep.
Speaker 2: I was right on the line with the rest of
Speaker 2: the other chefs and just trial by fire and it
Speaker 2: was u it was an experience. H first night, I
Speaker 2: sliced my hand open, and uh, I still had to
Speaker 2: finish another six hours of putting my hand underneath the
Speaker 2: salamander and working and stuff like that. So like it
Speaker 2: was it. It was a intense first day and just
Speaker 2: that first day made me fall in love with working
Speaker 2: in the kitchen. It was a bunch of pirates and
Speaker 2: you know, people just yelling and just pure chaos, like
Speaker 2: this is this is it? This is for me?
Speaker 1: Fuck you, fuck you? And that was And you said
Speaker 1: that was eight years ago.
Speaker 2: That was two thousand and fourteen, So about ten years ago.
Speaker 1: Now, wow, And how long are you in Oregon after that?
Speaker 1: After you start working there?
Speaker 2: So I lived in Oregon for another seven years. I
Speaker 2: ended up I ended up cooking breakfast and stuff, had
Speaker 2: a number of notable joints around there. And then me
Speaker 2: and my brother we were being roommates. He has been
Speaker 2: a piece of shit, so I ended up moving her out.
Speaker 2: I ended up finding the website cool Works, and uh,
Speaker 2: I didn't really like where my life was going at
Speaker 2: the time. You know, I had got this travel bug.
Speaker 2: It's where I'm like, Okay, I made it in Portland,
Speaker 2: let's see if I can do it somewhere else. So uh,
Speaker 2: down that website and I ended up applying to go
Speaker 2: to Alaska and that was an amazing trip in itself.
Speaker 2: Like I was out there for about six months, living, working,
Speaker 2: and eating all for free. So yeah, did that. Then
Speaker 2: I came back to Oregon just didn't feel right after
Speaker 2: I had left.
Speaker 1: So you said, I'm sorry. You said in in uh,
Speaker 1: in Oregon it didn't feel right, or in Alaska didn't
Speaker 1: feel right.
Speaker 2: In Oregon. After I came back from Alaska, I still
Speaker 2: had this like deep burning passion to go out and
Speaker 2: travel and you know, see more of the world. Uh
Speaker 2: So I ended up taking a job in Wyoming, and
Speaker 2: that was an experience in myself. I actually got to
Speaker 2: work with a lot of celebrities and I cook that
Speaker 2: one of the fanciest resorts in the world, and just
Speaker 2: like really learning what it meant to be a chef,
Speaker 2: not just cooking one cuisine and all that stuff. I
Speaker 2: got to work in a French kitchen underneath a very
Speaker 2: good chef and while being able to elevate all of
Speaker 2: my skills and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So you, uh, well, first of all, I just want
Speaker 1: to say, it's the fact that you spent seven years
Speaker 1: in Oregon is pretty crazy, because whatever was in that
Speaker 1: weed that night just fucking changed the entire course of
Speaker 1: your life. Like that's that's amazing. I really, I just
Speaker 1: and you initially picked that place because you were gonna
Speaker 1: go there with the next girlfriends.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And one night.
Speaker 1: I love I love it. You're just one night. You're
Speaker 1: just like, dude, fuck this, I'm not waiting anymore. I'm
Speaker 1: fucking going tonight. So cool. Yeah, and then you just
Speaker 1: fucking make it happen. Do you still keep in contact
Speaker 1: at all with the lady who's couch just left on?
Speaker 1: Or is she gone?
Speaker 2: Uh Na? We haven't talked in years, but you know,
Speaker 2: I still send her like the random happy days for
Speaker 2: message and stuff like that, and her and her and
Speaker 2: the chick that she was day and they actually ended
Speaker 2: up breaking up and she just had her ex girlfriend
Speaker 2: just had a baby, So I congratulated her on all
Speaker 2: that stuff. So I made sure they knew that they
Speaker 2: were appreciated. I ended up going back after I got
Speaker 2: a job and moved out, and ended up giving them
Speaker 2: like four or five hundred dollars just to say thank you. Cool. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they they they they really saved me. I could have
Speaker 2: been somewhere out on the street and really struggling, but
Speaker 2: you know, they gave me a chance, and every opportunity
Speaker 2: I've gotten while I've been on this journey, I've just
Speaker 2: made the best of it and taking a chance. That's
Speaker 2: really all it took.
Speaker 1: I want to I want to get back to your
Speaker 1: wyomic adventure. But first I have a I have a
Speaker 1: question for you. If someone is listening to this right
Speaker 1: now and they're inspired by your your bold your boldness, okay,
Speaker 1: and they were to maybe do a bold move as
Speaker 1: you did, is there anything that you feel like you
Speaker 1: learned from your your bold move that you would tell
Speaker 1: somebody who's thinking of doing something similar.
Speaker 2: Well, I learned this while I was in the military,
Speaker 2: went to food camp and stuff like that. If you're comfortable,
Speaker 2: you're probably doing it wrong. If you're uncomfortable, you're growing,
Speaker 2: you're changing. You know, you're you're learning how to work
Speaker 2: in a new environment. So my advice to anybody would
Speaker 2: be to just stay open minded. Like if you're in
Speaker 2: a new city, you know, you're somewhere that you're you're
Speaker 2: doing something that you normally wouldn't be doing. Uh, just
Speaker 2: stay open minded, you know, and keep your mind on
Speaker 2: the goal. If the goal is just to get out
Speaker 2: of your city and be somewhere else, fall into that. Uh,
Speaker 2: don't don't be looking back in the past and say, oh,
Speaker 2: I missed this about home, blah blah blah, because at
Speaker 2: the end of the day you put yourself in this position,
Speaker 2: you laugh, you wanted to do this. Now that you're here,
Speaker 2: we live in it.
Speaker 1: The I heard something I know. You know, I feel
Speaker 1: dumb because I heard this expression today and I didn't
Speaker 1: realize and it's got to be a popular expression. But
Speaker 1: the grass is greener where you water it. So if
Speaker 1: that was the choice, you know, you either because you
Speaker 1: go to Oregon and you're like, I should have stayed
Speaker 1: back in ke because what's going on there? But if
Speaker 1: you stay in Kansas City, go oh, what could have
Speaker 1: been an Oregon? And it's like, you know whatever, exactly
Speaker 1: as you said, It's like you chose to do the thing. So,
Speaker 1: you know, just fucking leaning to what every shows. I suppose.
Speaker 1: So how did you go? How'd you get this job
Speaker 1: working at UH as a celebrity chef in UH Wyoming?
Speaker 2: Well, dude, same thing. I told you. That website cool
Speaker 2: works has done wonders for me.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, what is it again?
Speaker 2: Cool cool works cool works dot com a free, free
Speaker 2: promotion for them, literally the best. It's the best website too.
Speaker 2: If you want to leave your hometown and you are
Speaker 2: you're scared to get a job and you work in hospitality,
Speaker 2: or even if you don't work in hospitality. Uh, there's
Speaker 2: a ton of jobs on there, from fishing guides to
Speaker 2: being a ski uh what a what a those dudes
Speaker 2: like a ski lift instructor or whatever. In Colorado, any
Speaker 2: any resort in the United States, they have there. They
Speaker 2: have an ad on there. And if you want to
Speaker 2: go experience wise, even just for summer, excuse me, go
Speaker 2: on cool works dot com. Especially if you're young then
Speaker 2: you're in college, go on cool works. You'll get paid,
Speaker 2: you'll be able to go somewhere else for the summer,
Speaker 2: and it'll be a life change and experience. It literally
Speaker 2: launched my entire like traveling career.
Speaker 1: Fu y yeah. I was gonna say, like, let's say
Speaker 1: somebody is like whatever, eighteen and maybe they don't want
Speaker 1: to go to college, or they just graduated college, but
Speaker 1: they graduated in something stupid like film and media arts,
Speaker 1: you know, and they don't have any like like uh,
Speaker 1: you know, hard skills or anything like that. Is this
Speaker 1: is this something that you know people can can do
Speaker 1: without a whole lot of experience.
Speaker 2: Yep, yep. They they will teach you everything. Like the
Speaker 2: job that I worked at it was you know, We
Speaker 2: brought in new people every year, and uh we train
Speaker 2: them up the three weeks before the season starts. You know,
Speaker 2: you're in the kitchen, you're learning them and us giving
Speaker 2: you all the stuff. You don't have a knife, there's
Speaker 2: knives there. Like there's programs where like if you don't
Speaker 2: want to work in the kitchen, you could just watch kids.
Speaker 2: Anybody can watch a baby.
Speaker 1: Not anybody, but some people. I'm gonna go, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: rebuff that statement. I'm gonna I'm gonna say, not everybody
Speaker 1: can can watch a baby, but I get what you mean. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I you know, that's okay. I'm gonna actually check this
Speaker 1: out because I was I was sitting around today being
Speaker 1: like I should go do some fucking shit, even though
Speaker 1: I just did a bunch of fucking shit.
Speaker 5: But uh, all right, Yeah, even if you're in a
Speaker 5: film major, you can go there and do the marketing
Speaker 5: for them and do a photographers something like that. There's
Speaker 5: a ton of different jobs that.
Speaker 2: You can do stuff.
Speaker 1: And that's how you, uh became a chef at this
Speaker 1: this crazy resort place.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So I ended up going out there in
Speaker 2: two thousand and eighteen or seventeen and it was free housing.
Speaker 2: I did have to sleep in a room with three
Speaker 2: other dudes on bump beds, so it's like summer camp,
Speaker 2: but it was free. Uh, three meals a day free
Speaker 2: and then every single week I completed, I got a
Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty dollars bonus that was paid out
Speaker 2: to the MPUM this season. So with that bonus, I
Speaker 2: took that bonus and I went down and stayed in
Speaker 2: Peru for two and a half months.
Speaker 1: What did you do in Peru?
Speaker 2: I just hung out, man, I just hung out, sassa dance,
Speaker 2: enjoyed the scene and re enjoyed the women in the museums.
Speaker 1: We're there by yourself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I spoke a little bit of Spanish. So
Speaker 2: but after after I came back and smoke a bit
Speaker 2: of Mount More Spanish.
Speaker 1: Fuck. Yeah, so cool. Now, when you were in Peru,
Speaker 1: did you like stay at a hostel or something or
Speaker 1: you were.
Speaker 6: Just like, first month, I had an Airbnb red day
Speaker 6: of redemption to it just came out, so you know,
Speaker 6: I just uh, and.
Speaker 1: You spent them. It's so funny. You know it's so
Speaker 1: funny is that you just described like you were like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I had a fucking awesome time in Peru. It was
Speaker 1: rate the best two months of my life. All I
Speaker 1: did was play red De Redemption two. And by the way,
Speaker 1: by the way, I would believe you if that was
Speaker 1: the case, because red De Redemption two is an awesome
Speaker 1: is an amazing life experience. Yeah, the spent right. So
Speaker 1: you're you're just in Peru. You bought a PlayStation four
Speaker 1: in Peru and got red Diredemption two in Spanish.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I brought my PlayStation four with me on
Speaker 2: the plane. Already I was up to no good before
Speaker 2: I even left.
Speaker 1: And then where'd you go from Peru?
Speaker 2: From Peru, I went back to Oregon, and then I
Speaker 2: went back to Wyoming, and then I went down to
Speaker 2: uh the Keys in Florida. So I ended up living
Speaker 2: down in Florida for about six months, working at it
Speaker 2: another luxury resort down there, for it was a private
Speaker 2: billionaire's yacht club. Also another job I found off with
Speaker 2: cool Works, and it was it was miserable.
Speaker 1: Why was that miserable? Uh?
Speaker 2: It was just like it was. I'm not a fan
Speaker 2: of seventy degrees every single day. Uh, it's the same weather.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna get with Florida it's like de japou.
Speaker 1: So what's I gotta I gotta ask you what is
Speaker 1: the Because you're clearly a hard work and suffering builds
Speaker 1: character kind of a guy. But what is the what?
Speaker 1: How do you know if you're just fucking miserable and
Speaker 1: you need to change something versus your going through a
Speaker 1: hard time, that is molding your spirits.
Speaker 2: If you hate you, if you if the thought of
Speaker 2: going into work gives you anxiety, and you know you
Speaker 2: just hate this job and it doesn't bring you much
Speaker 2: joy outside of getting paid, you need to move on.
Speaker 2: That's uh, that's that's the best way I can describe it.
Speaker 2: If it isn't bring you anything else besides monetary gainst,
Speaker 2: and uh, you need to move on because if the
Speaker 2: people suck at the environment sucks, you're just you're just
Speaker 2: kind of uh killing yourself for a dollar and you
Speaker 2: can go somewhere else and be in a much better
Speaker 2: environment and enjoy yourself.
Speaker 1: Have you ever been in a job that you identified
Speaker 1: that you just fuck hat and you quit?
Speaker 2: Yeah, my most recent job.
Speaker 1: What was it that you hated about it?
Speaker 2: Uh? Well, like so like I've never I've been lucky
Speaker 2: enough to never been around like really abusive chefs, like
Speaker 2: Turgole abusive chefs and stuff like that, and this guy
Speaker 2: was just like the absolute worst. And I've worked for
Speaker 2: better chefs who are who have their head on their
Speaker 2: shoulders way more. So I just couldn't do it. It wasn't
Speaker 2: it wasn't conducive to me learning and growing. M hm.
Speaker 1: And where'd you go right after you quit that?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm going up to a kitchen up in Iron Bay.
Speaker 2: So that started my new job. Yeah, I haven't started
Speaker 2: my new job. I'm kind of on a break right now.
Speaker 1: What are you doing with your break?
Speaker 2: We are getting ready to celebrate Christmas is Christmas Eve today,
Speaker 2: so we are finishing up all of our dishes for
Speaker 2: tomorrow and getting ready to drive down to Canberra, the
Speaker 2: capital of Australia.
Speaker 1: When you first came to Australia, I assume that was
Speaker 1: a cool works thing.
Speaker 2: Oh no, so actually I actually applied to come out
Speaker 2: here on a work on holiday visa in twenty nineteen,
Speaker 2: and then obviously the entire world shut down. So I
Speaker 2: was out in Cali seeing a Kanye westconcert. I ended
Speaker 2: up getting robbed that night. The next morning, when I
Speaker 2: woke up, I had my visa for Australia approves. Just
Speaker 2: kind of told my job out in Wyoming because I'm
Speaker 2: back out in Wyoming at this point, Hey man, at
Speaker 2: the beginning of twenty twenty two, I'm gonna be taking
Speaker 2: a dive and moving to Australia.
Speaker 1: That's sick. Damn. Yeah, you live a cool life. I'm
Speaker 1: very I'm very inspired talking to you. I've inspired that.
Speaker 1: I'm inspired by a few things. Is that you just
Speaker 1: really seem like a guy who won't settle for being
Speaker 1: unhappy or being you know, comfortable in a bad way,
Speaker 1: even even the fact that it took you one hundred
Speaker 1: plus dates to find a woman you really wanted to
Speaker 1: start a life with and fucking you know, going so
Speaker 1: boldly to Oregon on a whim him and uh, sticking
Speaker 1: it out through difficult jobs, but in finding joy within
Speaker 1: the difficulty. It's it's really cool. I really appreciate the
Speaker 1: way that you look at and live your life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's all life really is. Like, I'm
Speaker 2: not a persistent guy when it comes to dating. That's
Speaker 2: why I've had so many dates. If you don't seem interested,
Speaker 2: then I'm not interested. So I think a lot of
Speaker 2: people they kind of they get too involved with one
Speaker 2: person who doesn't seem interested with them when they could
Speaker 2: just move on to the next person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that seems to be the better strategy instead of
Speaker 1: trying to let you know, you know what, you know
Speaker 1: what it is. I I it's so funny. I was
Speaker 1: talking to my friend's girlfriend about this, Like anytime you're
Speaker 1: like analyzing a text that someone sent you, or like
Speaker 1: you're showing your friends like what does what does this
Speaker 1: guy mean? Or what does this girl mean? What? Really?
Speaker 1: I think what is really going on is like you
Speaker 1: in your gut like know what they mean, and you're
Speaker 1: like begging your friends and begging your ego for any
Speaker 1: interpretation that is not what your gut knows they mean.
Speaker 1: Because you're what your gut knows they mean. You don't
Speaker 1: like you know, but it's it's way easier to just
Speaker 1: you know, charge it to the game and keep going.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I did for a while. I was
Speaker 2: like an old Inns game One Life and you're out,
Speaker 2: Sorry to work for me. Maybe that that I passed
Speaker 2: up a lot of good people, But at the end
Speaker 2: of the day, I'm happy with the person that I'm with.
Speaker 1: That's wonderful.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: It just takes a lot of trial there. And honestly,
Speaker 2: I didn't I didn't want to date in my twenties.
Speaker 2: I put that on the back end and just really
Speaker 2: went and traveled and saw the world and new experiences
Speaker 2: and met people and oh that good stuff. I think
Speaker 2: that's what you really should be doing. I'm actually envious
Speaker 2: of you with your whole podcast and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: The fact that you are able to just do something
Speaker 2: you really love and make money from it.
Speaker 1: Fuck. Man, Yeah, you're inspiring me because I I, well,
Speaker 1: it's uh here, I mean, here's where I'm at when
Speaker 1: my life is. Like I just I've went on like
Speaker 1: three tours and it was like so cool to get
Speaker 1: to see I really do I fucking really in my core.
Speaker 1: In my core is a guy who like fucking loves
Speaker 1: life and loves traveling and loves talking to people. And
Speaker 1: I get very disconnected from that core because of like
Speaker 1: depression and fall and uh just problems and things and
Speaker 1: this long periods of time. I feel very disconnected with
Speaker 1: that guy in my core that like loves life and people.
Speaker 1: And then uh, and then something just comes where like
Speaker 1: I awake and I'm like, well, wait a minute, I
Speaker 1: wanna I actually I like things. I want to go out,
Speaker 1: I want to see the world. I'm gonna die all
Speaker 1: this stuff. But then I don't know. I get there's
Speaker 1: a lot to enjoy about domestic life, like having clean
Speaker 1: laundry and uh yeah, going to the gym regularly and
Speaker 1: eating salmon and all that stuff, and I'm like, I
Speaker 1: wanna ultimately live a life where I can eat salmon
Speaker 1: and go to Australia randomly. But I don't know. It's
Speaker 1: it's used to be a very like adventure has always
Speaker 1: been a very core tenant of my life. But it's hard,
Speaker 1: especially when you do it alone. It's really hard because
Speaker 1: sometimes when you go somewhere alone and you stay at
Speaker 1: a on some random guy this couch that you met
Speaker 1: on the internet, you get into these situations where you're like, uh, well, one,
Speaker 1: when you go alone, you experience like really deep fucking
Speaker 1: melancholy and sadness. Oh my god, I'm lone's fun yeah,
Speaker 1: just loneliness, and you're like, I like, I was in
Speaker 1: Thailand and I was at a McDonald's by myself, crying
Speaker 1: at night, and I was like, I'm gonna cry, like
Speaker 1: I'm twenty six crying alone in a McDonald's in Thailand,
Speaker 1: which in the moment is it feels really pathetic, but
Speaker 1: then looking back on it, I'm like, like, when i'm
Speaker 1: you know, forty, and I have kids or whatever, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be like, oh that was there was something poetic
Speaker 1: about crying alone in that McDonald's. I'm like, I'm glad
Speaker 1: that sucked in the moment, but I'm glad I did that.
Speaker 1: Like there's so you get to kind of be in
Speaker 1: this poetic melancholy sadness. But then also there's really high
Speaker 1: highs where you meet some person at a thing and
Speaker 1: then you're at this thing and you're whatever, and you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: how the fuck did this even happen? This is crazy,
Speaker 1: this is amazing, Like oh my god, I'm like living
Speaker 1: like Walter Midty, like life is a movie kind of shit.
Speaker 1: But you got to go through the the melancholyly to
Speaker 1: get there. I'm really with you, I really think, especially
Speaker 1: if you've if you're someone who's never left the country before,
Speaker 1: never done anything like that, you know you really got to.
Speaker 1: But right now I'm like, I gotta I gotta lose
Speaker 1: fifty pounds and eat salmon and stuff. What were you
Speaker 1: gonna say?
Speaker 2: Wow, go ahead. When I was in Peru, I actually
Speaker 2: experienced a lot of this you're talking about, like been
Speaker 2: somewhere and just crying stuff in my face, like just
Speaker 2: being a streaming lonely. But while I was in Peru,
Speaker 2: I just took the time to really work out every
Speaker 2: single day outside stuff like that. Calisthetics is amazing. You
Speaker 2: don't have to go to the gym. You can buy
Speaker 2: stuff at home where you're just doing push ups, doing
Speaker 2: squats and all this stuff like that to where you
Speaker 2: you know, I used to do one hundred push ups
Speaker 2: every single day.
Speaker 1: Of course you do.
Speaker 2: And that just kind of helped me stay focused and
Speaker 2: stay on the grind. I know weight loss. I struggle
Speaker 2: with weight gain. I'm extremely skinny and that really bothers me.
Speaker 2: I wish I could gain weight easy. So I definitely
Speaker 2: recognize you having a problem with your weight and wanting
Speaker 2: to do something about it. You just have to kind
Speaker 2: of stay on the path.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought I could do it while I was
Speaker 1: on tour, and it's like, I really just can't. But
Speaker 1: then I think get bored. I don't know, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's it's good. It's good problems to have, you know, Well,
Speaker 1: tell me this. Yeah, so you just found out your
Speaker 1: girlfriend is pregnant or how did you How did that
Speaker 1: make you feel? Are you excited about the future. We
Speaker 1: talked about the past, we talked about the present, the present.
Speaker 1: We shall end this with the future of Ron's life.
Speaker 2: Uh I am. I am extremely nervous, obviously, like every
Speaker 2: parent would be. Uh. I think it'll be good. I'm
Speaker 2: moving away from a job that was making me unhappy
Speaker 2: and moving somewhere else. It's kind of like lit a
Speaker 2: fire in the treat get out of the kitchen and
Speaker 2: do something that's a little bit more family friendly. So
Speaker 2: that's what I'm trying to do, honest, to maybe move
Speaker 2: into something different that I could spend time with my
Speaker 2: girlfriend and my future child.
Speaker 1: What's what's on your mind? What are you thinking?
Speaker 2: Well, I was thinking of electricians, but I might just
Speaker 2: do something on the computer, like cyberce security or something
Speaker 2: like that, something technical that I could do from home
Speaker 2: or not be at work all hours or didn't night.
Speaker 1: So are you worried that you'll after so much time
Speaker 1: in this like fast paced environment that you really loved,
Speaker 1: are you? Are you worried about a career change.
Speaker 2: No, I've been longing for a career change for about
Speaker 2: two years now. But unfortunately in Australia, I'm a sponsored
Speaker 2: I'm on a sponsorship visa, so I couldn't leave the
Speaker 2: job that I'm at. I'm at, but I'm I'm on
Speaker 2: my way to obtaining my p are, so they're not
Speaker 2: keen basically be an Australian citizen, get the medicare, get
Speaker 2: the cheaper school, all that stuff like that. So it's
Speaker 2: just all it's all.
Speaker 1: Is it hard to becoming a can you? Well, are
Speaker 1: you not married to this lady? Are you?
Speaker 2: No? No yet?
Speaker 1: Oh so if you if you if you get if
Speaker 1: you get married, are you gonna do you just become
Speaker 1: a citizen or how does that work?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: No, you actually have to pay ten thousand Australian to
Speaker 2: apply for a partnership.
Speaker 1: Us get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but not only do you have to pay for
Speaker 2: the wedding and stuff like that, you have to convince
Speaker 2: the government that uh you are a legitimate couple and
Speaker 2: that you want to be together. So that typically means
Speaker 2: you can't leave the country for two to three years
Speaker 2: while they thereify all of that stuff. So, uh, I'm
Speaker 2: going the other route with my job, so that I
Speaker 2: basically have a job. Say yeah, we need this guy,
Speaker 2: we'd like to keep him around. We will sponsor.
Speaker 1: And after living a nomadic life for so long, how
Speaker 1: are you feeling about settling down with a kid?
Speaker 2: Uh? Like I said, it was, it was kind of
Speaker 2: that same thing, like I've done the chef thing. Got
Speaker 2: done everything that I feel like I wanted to do
Speaker 2: in the culinary world because I have no want on
Speaker 2: a restaurant. After that, I just kind of wanted to
Speaker 2: start reading a regular life. I wanted to experience what
Speaker 2: other people experience, have been off of work at five
Speaker 2: o'clock and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna if you're down. I know, I know I've
Speaker 1: kept you on the phone for a long time here,
Speaker 1: but if you're down, I want to see if the
Speaker 1: chat perhaps has any questions for Ron. I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna see if the chat I can read them out
Speaker 1: to you. Let me see here, let's see here. Uh,
Speaker 1: someone just said are you a fancy chef? That I
Speaker 1: only I swear to God, if there was enough that
Speaker 1: was the only question so far. If I saw a
Speaker 1: better question.
Speaker 6: I would have asked, I've done high end work.
Speaker 2: I've done I've worked so alt In Wyoming, I was
Speaker 2: in a French kitchen making the consummes and nokis and
Speaker 2: agnalodi pasta from scratch and stuff like that. I used
Speaker 2: to eat Wago beef every single day. Uh yeah, I
Speaker 2: guess you could say.
Speaker 1: Has working in a kitchen caused you to trust less
Speaker 1: in the food that you're getting when you like order it? Like,
Speaker 1: are like, do you have you seen anything gross where
Speaker 1: you're like, oh god.
Speaker 2: Uh no, it's I actually try not like it's actually
Speaker 2: like other people when they go into a restaurant, No,
Speaker 2: this isn't the best. And I just go into a restaurant.
Speaker 2: I prefer that, like it's it's just good. When somebody
Speaker 2: else is cooking for me, did you try?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Sorry, what's what's your girlfriend cooking?
Speaker 2: She can cook? She's no, you'll find it.
Speaker 4: Oh she is?
Speaker 2: She is?
Speaker 1: She is that who's in the background.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, tell her.
Speaker 1: I said, thank you for letting me steal you away
Speaker 1: for a fucking hour.
Speaker 2: No, you're fine.
Speaker 1: Someone said you have you tried ayahuasca in Peru?
Speaker 2: No? But I've done a fair amount of ass. I
Speaker 2: never made it out to the jungle. While I was
Speaker 2: in Peru after ben out in Wyoming for six and
Speaker 2: a half seven months, I just wanted to be in
Speaker 2: a city, dance, eat good food, meet people. Actually ended
Speaker 2: up going on a tender date while I was there
Speaker 2: and met two of my really good friends.
Speaker 1: Someone wants to know what town in Alaska did you
Speaker 1: go to?
Speaker 2: I went to Craig, Alaska. I was on the Prince
Speaker 2: of Wales Island, so it was about an hour and
Speaker 2: a half away from Catchkan, which is like a big
Speaker 2: port area of cruise lines and stuff there.
Speaker 1: Someone said, Oh, this is interesting. So how would not
Speaker 1: having to make money change your relationship to cooking? Like,
Speaker 1: would you cook even if you didn't have to?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: Probably not. I'm not going to lie to you. I'm
Speaker 2: a picky eater, so like me being a chef doesn't
Speaker 2: make sense because I am a strict, extremely picky eater. Uh.
Speaker 2: So I enjoy I enjoy the the joy that people
Speaker 2: get on their faces when they have good food. So
Speaker 2: I guess my love language is just doing for people
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. It doesn't have to necessarily be cooking.
Speaker 1: So wants to know, Uh, well, a couple people will
Speaker 1: asked what your favorite dish is to cook, and then
Speaker 1: someone said, what is the weirdest thing you have ever cooked?
Speaker 2: My favorite dish is chicken marsala, the Italian version, not
Speaker 2: the Indian version, and the weirdest thing God ever cooked.
Speaker 2: M Well, I don't know. I saw these this thing
Speaker 2: this lady made on Instagram. It was shrimp shrimp albundius,
Speaker 2: which is basically like shrimp meatballs, and I did them
Speaker 2: as an amuse for the restaurant that I was working at,
Speaker 2: and they actually turned out really freaking good.
Speaker 1: Uh, this one. Uh, this is totally totally up to you.
Speaker 1: But somebody asked if you have a social media presence
Speaker 1: because they're very inspired by your lifestyle. Uh, if you
Speaker 1: want to be flooded with with gecko people, you're you're
Speaker 1: You're welcome to.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah sure. My Instagram handle was Met on the
Speaker 2: Moon eight one six. My profile is public, so I
Speaker 2: just post a lot of memes and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: But it does have a fair amount of stuff that
Speaker 2: I've done.
Speaker 1: I get Matt Man on the Moon, Man on the
Speaker 1: Moon eight one six, is that kid cutting reference?
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, yes, sir, My guy live front.
Speaker 1: Row, Like, all right, we gotta get him on the podcast.
Speaker 1: We got to get him in a get Go suit
Speaker 1: maybe one.
Speaker 2: Day, Yeah for sure.
Speaker 1: Well Ron, Ron, it was fucking seriously, it's awesome talking
Speaker 1: to you. Thanks for telling us the journey of your life.
Speaker 1: I really do like it would be so cool to
Speaker 1: me if like I get a DM like six months
Speaker 1: after this podcast airs of someone being like yo, I
Speaker 1: went on that website that Ron was talking about and uh,
Speaker 1: now I live in uh fucking Costa Rica or whatever,
Speaker 1: and I'm married and you know whatever, that'd be cool
Speaker 1: if someone like actually does some shit off of.
Speaker 2: This, maybe I'll directtion it. Yeah, anybody, if you want
Speaker 2: to go travel, get on cool works dot com. Uh.
Speaker 2: There's all kinds of different states, Rhode Island, uh, freaking
Speaker 2: anywhere you want to go in the US. There's more
Speaker 2: than likely a job there that you can do. Uh.
Speaker 2: There's places that you can live and eat for free
Speaker 2: and just make money.
Speaker 1: Ron, my friend, is there anything else you want to
Speaker 1: say to the people of the computer before we go.
Speaker 2: I'm always just stay persistent in your and your goals
Speaker 2: and your dreams. You guys, if you got something that
Speaker 2: you want to through, see it through. You may be
Speaker 2: uncomfortable at the time game, but at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, it'll be worth it.
Speaker 1: Ron You're hero, your legend. Thanks for thanks for your
Speaker 1: time and uh mozeltov On on the Beautiful life and
Speaker 1: the Beautiful family.
Speaker 2: Thank you well, it was an honor talking to you.
Speaker 2: I've been trying for a long time, so thank you.
Speaker 1: They have a good night. Oh what a call. What
Speaker 1: a guy. That was one of my favorite calls we've
Speaker 1: we've had in a while. That's really my favorite thing
Speaker 1: about doing this podcast is like, uh, I know that
Speaker 1: though the way this podcast is framed can sometimes be
Speaker 1: like that it's like an advice podcast, and it definitely
Speaker 1: uh exkews that way a lot of the time. But
Speaker 1: I've said this before. My favorite thing about doing what
Speaker 1: I do is that I get to, you know, not
Speaker 1: only interact with people in a way where I'm like
Speaker 1: getting to soak up the lived experience of other people
Speaker 1: you know, all around the world, but also that you know,
Speaker 1: part of that conversation is broadcasted to a bunch of people, uh,
Speaker 1: such as you listening to this, who are also getting
Speaker 1: to learn from other people's learned experience, lived experience. It's
Speaker 1: really cool. It's really cool. So thank you very much
Speaker 1: Ron for sharing your story. I'm gonna check out this
Speaker 1: coolworks dot com thing because really, like if I wasn't
Speaker 1: doing what I do now, that like serious, like if
Speaker 1: tomorrow it was just like my podcast was scrubbed from
Speaker 1: the Internet or whatever, like and I couldn't do this anymore,
Speaker 1: that probably is what I would do. It's like just
Speaker 1: be like, well fuck it, let's go to uh Alaska
Speaker 1: and see what the hell's going on over there. So
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe I'll check it out. Very nice.
Speaker 1: Do I have anything else to say?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: I could say that was cool again, that was cool.
Speaker 1: I did enjoy that, and thank you for listening. Hello.
Speaker 3: How's it going?
Speaker 1: Hey there? What's your name?
Speaker 3: My name is Zach, Zach.
Speaker 1: What's up, Zach? How you doing?
Speaker 3: Not much? I just graduated at MTSU. He actually came
Speaker 3: and visited.
Speaker 1: Us Falk dude. Ah man, you know, sometimes I feel
Speaker 1: like a piece of shit and then I'm like, oh wait,
Speaker 1: actually I've done a lot of cool things like that.
Speaker 1: That happened to me recently. I was like, I like
Speaker 1: I was talking to somebody about Middle Tennessee State University,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh yeah, that was only like
Speaker 1: a couple months ago, and that was awesome. That was
Speaker 1: a great time. Had a great time at that show.
Speaker 1: Were you there?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 3: I was in like the back. I showed up late
Speaker 3: with like one of my friends and it was it
Speaker 3: was It was a good show. I mean, your National
Speaker 3: show was way better.
Speaker 1: I was also there really which Nashville, Yeah, the one
Speaker 1: where Insane Posse showed up? Oh yeah, the one the
Speaker 1: one was checking. Yeah, I love that one.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: I had a good fun.
Speaker 2: How did you hook that up?
Speaker 3: How did you get Like?
Speaker 1: Well, he and I had been talking about because they're
Speaker 1: in Detroit, and he and I had been talking about
Speaker 1: me doing something with them like on the podcast, but
Speaker 1: then it just both happened to be in Nashville at
Speaker 1: the same time, and so he came on. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that was so cool. That was one of the sickest.
Speaker 1: I had a great time at that show. That was
Speaker 1: so cool. I think that was the only time we've
Speaker 1: ever had like a like celebrity guest on a live
Speaker 1: show before.
Speaker 3: Well, that was like so impressive. I mean, and then
Speaker 3: we had like two marriage proposals, like right after.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that one was like nuts, that was fun. That
Speaker 1: was fun. Yeah, I had a great time at that
Speaker 1: uh at that college show. Those are good. That was
Speaker 1: that was good. Well, okay, so you just graduated and yeah,
Speaker 1: how are you doing? Are you depressed?
Speaker 3: No, no, no, don't worry. I'm on I'm on the
Speaker 3: good side of like calls today.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: I mean like looking for like a job and stuff,
Speaker 3: but I kind of just want to do uh a
Speaker 3: thing called like jet program. We're just like teaching English
Speaker 3: and like Japan.
Speaker 1: Well, the guy we just talked to was uh like
Speaker 1: I feel like kind of talking about those kinds of things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I I applied in like November, and now I'm
Speaker 3: just like sitting around waiting until they get back to me,
Speaker 3: which is like they do uh they do it in waves,
Speaker 3: so like in like country by country, like South Africa
Speaker 3: like heard back first and then the UK people just
Speaker 3: heard about it, and then I'm just sitting around waiting around.
Speaker 3: But I want to do it with like my partner
Speaker 3: because we're both like just interested in living in Japan,
Speaker 3: like traveling around and stuff.
Speaker 1: Really cool, really cool way Japan.
Speaker 3: Uh, mostly just because of the culture and stuff. I mean,
Speaker 3: like I like the United States, but I want to dip,
Speaker 3: Like it's just kind of uncomfortable here in Tennessee. I
Speaker 3: guess I don't know.
Speaker 1: Japan kicks ass. Japan's a great place to hang out in.
Speaker 1: I don't know a whole lot about Like I only
Speaker 1: learned like a few Japanese phrases. But I feel like
Speaker 1: with languages, it's like if you really kind of go
Speaker 1: at it for a year, you can you can do
Speaker 1: pretty good. Are you well, you're not trying to learn
Speaker 1: in Japanese? You want to teach English in Japanese in Japan?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So they don't have like many requirements like if
Speaker 3: you want to like go to like South Korea or
Speaker 3: anything like that, they require you to like do like
Speaker 3: a TfL like course which is like one hundred and
Speaker 3: twenty hours, but like you can do in like six months.
Speaker 3: But we're also looking at those opportunities. But like all
Speaker 3: those conversations started from like oh maybe maybe like Peace
Speaker 3: Corps or something like that. I don't know. And we've
Speaker 3: been applying around just saying what we want to put
Speaker 3: ourselves forward towards.
Speaker 1: I think I think, yeah, with a lot of those
Speaker 1: like ESL programs, it's interesting because I am. I do
Speaker 1: know that a lot of them don't require you to
Speaker 1: speak the language that you're teaching the people to, which
Speaker 1: is crazy because when I was in eighth grade, I
Speaker 1: took a Spanish class and that lady spoke English. Well, well, no,
Speaker 1: you like you know, like like with like in America,
Speaker 1: like all the like, like when you were in middle school,
Speaker 1: you have to take like Spanish or French or some shit.
Speaker 3: I took German at high school.
Speaker 1: Okay, you're German high school teacher. She spoke English, right.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, she like grew up here in America then
Speaker 3: like went over to like Germany, and then I got
Speaker 3: like a second teacher that had like committed his whole
Speaker 3: life to like living in Germany and then coming back here.
Speaker 1: But like that would be crazy. If they just had
Speaker 1: a just fully one hundred percent German lady come in
Speaker 1: and just speak German to the whole time, you wouldn't
Speaker 1: learn anything.
Speaker 3: My girlfriend, when she took like French at the high school,
Speaker 3: they originally had like this like very country person teaching
Speaker 3: like French, and apparently like after she got replaced by
Speaker 3: a real French person, it was very very hard to
Speaker 3: like transition to students because they had like created like
Speaker 3: bad habits and stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, here's the thing with like learning the languages.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's not that bad to like learn
Speaker 1: it badly, Like like the the grammar doesn't really matter.
Speaker 1: If you speak a broken second language, as as an American,
Speaker 1: then you're doing pretty good.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I had to learn a little bit of Spanish for
Speaker 3: working at like a paint.
Speaker 2: Store that I worked at.
Speaker 3: But like I'm like kind of adjusted towards like picking
Speaker 3: up like phrases and like, yeah, just like the culture
Speaker 3: surrounding it.
Speaker 1: I guess when I feel like when you try to
Speaker 1: learn another language and then like you're talking to like
Speaker 1: foreign people who are speaking English to you, you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: this person's actually pretty fucking good at English.
Speaker 3: They're all shy about it too, Right.
Speaker 1: Well, that's cool, man. I'm glad to hear that your
Speaker 1: life is glad to hear that you're not depressed and
Speaker 1: you're about to do a cool thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm trying to do.
Speaker 2: But it's hard.
Speaker 3: I mean, like giving up like opportunities to like hang
Speaker 3: out with my dogs and stuff or like my family
Speaker 3: just to like jump ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're right, you're twenty two, twenty four, twenty four. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but if yeah, I mean, but you know, life's for living.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that last call was great for that.
Speaker 1: Well, brother, my friend, is there anything else you want
Speaker 1: to say to the people of the computer before we go.
Speaker 3: Get out there? And uh, actually we'll throw this out
Speaker 3: uh google the High Face. I grew up in that religion,
Speaker 3: the High One out there. Yeah, so it's a it's
Speaker 3: a religion that's like uh uh they believe in like
Speaker 3: the nine major religions, and I just want to put
Speaker 3: that word out there. Oh happy hankut to you.
Speaker 1: Oh thanks man. Wait, they just rolled all their religions
Speaker 1: up into one fucking ball and it's just the High Face.
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 3: They were like uh talking about like how uh uh
Speaker 3: the Word of God goes through many different prophets, and
Speaker 3: like how every like country or like culture has like
Speaker 3: had a prophet, whether it's passed down orally or like
Speaker 3: traditionally through like writing and stuff. And it was a
Speaker 3: really really cool religion to grow up in.
Speaker 1: M hm, the hind Do you still believe? Do you
Speaker 1: still believe in? Do you still believe in the High Faith?
Speaker 3: I would say yes, I'm definitely surrounded by like a
Speaker 3: lot of people that aren't like, uh, you know, super religious,
Speaker 3: but I generally believe that, like it's important to like
Speaker 3: share your voice and like all the values that they
Speaker 3: like taught early on. I guess, so I don't know,
Speaker 3: Uh I, I don't know. We live in like a
Speaker 3: perfect world with like perfect conditions for everything.
Speaker 1: I don't know, do you really believe that.
Speaker 3: Kind of I mean, uh, if I kind of that,
Speaker 3: that's a bad answer. I should say yes or no,
Speaker 3: but yes, I don't know. Maybe I'm watching too many
Speaker 3: YouTube shorts with like those science guys saying, uh uh,
Speaker 3: can you believe the the I don't know.
Speaker 1: Well I will well hold on. I not to you
Speaker 1: lose faith in literally what you're just saying right now.
Speaker 1: But it's cool that your YouTube shorts algorithm is sending
Speaker 1: you videos about how the world is awesome and perfect
Speaker 1: because most I don't know if I'm probably not alone
Speaker 1: in this, but most of the internet content I get
Speaker 1: fed is about how the world is horrible and we're
Speaker 1: all going to die.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Man, I do watch a lot of car crash compilations.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, you gotta balance it out, Yeah, Okay, I
Speaker 1: have one final question, why do you believe the world
Speaker 1: is perfect as it is?
Speaker 3: I guess I've been just living life on like easy
Speaker 3: mode and I haven't really been like traumatized or really.
Speaker 3: I mean, I've talked to other people about like trauma
Speaker 3: and stuff, but it's ever been at like, I don't know,
Speaker 3: my own personal experiences have been amazing, and I always
Speaker 3: try to look at like saying yes to like opportunities
Speaker 3: and those of like always because originally I didn't. I
Speaker 3: didn't say yes to like all the opportunities that were
Speaker 3: like presented to me, And I think, I don't know,
Speaker 3: I just I'm surrounded by amazing people and an amazing partner,
Speaker 3: good family that support me. I mean, I'm graduating debt
Speaker 3: free and I know a lot of people don't have
Speaker 3: that opportunity. But uh, I don't know, I just kind
Speaker 3: of live in like a pretty perfect world.
Speaker 1: I'm happy for you, man. Maybe it's the maybe the
Speaker 1: High Faith is Maybe the High Faith is what led
Speaker 1: you to this. Maybe. Yeah, this episode, everyone's gonna check
Speaker 1: out the High Faith, and they're going to check out
Speaker 1: that other website cool works, Yeah, cool works, cool Works,
Speaker 1: and the High Faith.
Speaker 3: Hey, you're gonna check it out too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna check outn check out both of those websites.
Speaker 1: I don't want to do. I don't want to do
Speaker 1: while I'm on the phone with you, because I think
Speaker 1: that would be rude. But that sounds like a good
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do both of those things
Speaker 1: as soon as I get off of recording this. What's
Speaker 1: your name again, it's Zach, Zach. Zach. Thanks for sharing
Speaker 1: your life with us on this podcast today.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Le.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 3: I've said my words.
Speaker 1: I like that it's confident, UH make may all of
Speaker 1: the gods of the nine major religions bless you, and
Speaker 1: UH have a good rest of your life.
Speaker 3: Here you kill me?
Speaker 2: Bye?
Speaker 1: That was nice. That was really nice. Yeah. I also
Speaker 1: I thought about doing like English as a second language
Speaker 1: teaching shit too, But I always thought it was crazy
Speaker 1: that you don't have to, like, like, if you want
Speaker 1: to teach English to people who only speak Spanish, you
Speaker 1: don't even have to know Spanish. But like, if I
Speaker 1: was in high school and I had a Spanish teacher,
Speaker 1: I didn't speak English, I'd be like, what is this
Speaker 1: lady talk about, never goes on the line, taking your
Speaker 1: phone calls every night, Everything goes to and and I
Speaker 1: I was
Speaker 3: Teaching your cloud in the mean of your life that
Speaker 3: he's not really an expert.