1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,920 Speaker 1: What's up man? How you doing. 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 2: I'm pretty good yourself. 3 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: You know, I am trying my best. I am having 4 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: new epiphanies about life every single day, some of them 5 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: contradicting each other. Sometimes it feels like, you know, sometimes 6 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: I feel like I have like a life epiphany, and 7 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: then tomorrow I have the opposite one. In the day 8 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: after that, I have the original one. And it's like 9 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: I'm going in complete circles. But maybe maybe I'm like 10 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: going in circles. I'm trying to, like with words describe 11 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: how I see this visually, Like you know, I'm like 12 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: going in circles, but the circles are moving a little 13 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: bit to the right every time, So it's like a 14 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: loop that event Yeah, it's like a loop that just 15 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: event that goes eventually moves forward in that way. You know, 16 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: you kind of visualize what I'm talking about. 17 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have different epiphanies every single day, so the 18 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 2: light is always seeming to throw a little bit of 19 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 2: a loop at you. 20 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: I see that you are not a plus one area code. 21 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: Where are you calling from? 22 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 2: I'm calling from Australia. I moved to Australia about three 23 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 2: years ago. 24 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: Okay, are you American. 25 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm from Kansas City. 26 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: Cool. Where and where in Australia did you move? 27 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 2: I moved to Sydney, so one of the most expensive cities. 28 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 3: In the world. 29 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: And why did you move from Why did you move 30 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: from Kansas City, which is not one of the most 31 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: expensive cities in the world to sid. 32 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 2: So I'm actually like one of your other callers that 33 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 2: called it like a like probably like ten podcasts ago 34 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 2: get the whole cool work steme and I ended up 35 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: in Alaster and then I just started traveling around the 36 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 2: you asked working at different places, different resorts, and that 37 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 2: led me to eventually you know then like a few 38 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 2: other people on here and been like, oh, I want 39 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,679 Speaker 2: to go to Australia. So I ended up in Australia. 40 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: I'm a chef, so I've been cooking for about three 41 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 2: years out here. 42 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: Cool. Very cool. You said you were like one of 43 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: the other callers that did the what thing. 44 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 2: So you know the caller who went up to what 45 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: is that Yellowstone and he was just working out there 46 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: and yeah, so that same website. I went and got 47 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 2: a job off when I was twenty one, so I'm 48 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 2: well twenty seven, so I'm thirty four and now and 49 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: I've been doing the whole traveling thinking about eight years. 50 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: Now, how's that going for you? Because I think a 51 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: lot about what a fully nomadic life would be like, 52 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 1: and I've been in periods of time in my life 53 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: in which I felt very nomadic, and I'm curious, eight years, 54 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: how does that work out for you? How are you 55 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: feeling about it? 56 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 2: Oh? Man, you kind of uh, you really get used 57 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 2: to traveling and just keeping the minimum amount of stuff. 58 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 2: Like my whole life up until these last three years 59 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 2: could fit in three or four suitcases and I would 60 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 2: just get up and go. I'm driven across the US, 61 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 2: like four times I used to live in Oregon, drove 62 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 2: down to Florida, like the very tip of Florida, that 63 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 2: work down there. You really, uh, you really get to 64 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 2: know outside of yourself that a lot of people won't 65 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 2: know because they're never alone so much and celebrating holidays 66 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: and all that stuff. You really got to grow a 67 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 2: family outside of your family. 68 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: Do you have a family. 69 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 2: I actually just found out my girlfriend and here in Australia, 70 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 2: is pregnant. 71 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: No way, yeah, so are you are you go? Are 72 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: you having the baby? 73 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? We are? Wait so I actually it was a 74 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 2: whole spill. I just quit my job last week and 75 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 2: I have another job lined up, and uh, pretty much 76 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 2: two days after I quit my job, she's like, yeah, 77 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 2: I'm pregnant and we're moving about eight hours away from 78 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 2: Sydney right now, So we got a whole. 79 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: Where are you going to move? 80 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 2: We're headed up to Balina. I don't know if you 81 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,679 Speaker 2: made it up to like the Byron Bay, Ballina area 82 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:51,679 Speaker 2: while you were here. 83 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: No, but I heard about Byron Bays. That's like where 84 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 1: all the no, I'm thinking of Bondi Beach, that's where 85 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: all the like tours go to die. 86 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Byron Bay is also another popular spot. It's 87 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 2: where Chris employd and Hugh Jackman, they all live out there. 88 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: And so this, uh, this lovely lady. Did you meet 89 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: her in Australia? 90 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so we actually met on the apps. I 91 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 2: know a lot of people have a lot of trouble 92 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 2: about meeting people on the apps, but it's it's more 93 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 2: of a persistence game and a numbers game than it 94 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 2: is you know, finding somebody right away. You know how 95 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 2: many the apps for a long time? 96 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 1: How many appdates did you go on until you met 97 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: your girlfriends. 98 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 2: Uh whoosh, Jesus, probably over one hundred easily over wow? 99 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: Really over one hundred? 100 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah, But I'm I'm an old man, so 101 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 2: I've been using them. It's pretty much they came out 102 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 2: and I've been in different cities. 103 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: And what was it about this one that made it 104 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: different from the other one hundred? 105 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 2: She was just pretty awesome. Like, honestly, all the girl 106 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 2: all the app dates that I've been on in Australia 107 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 2: have been pretty fruitful, like updated somebody that I've pretty 108 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 2: much met every single time. But she was she was 109 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,679 Speaker 2: just different man, Like I didn't have to be stone 110 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 2: to be around her and like all that stuff. So 111 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 2: it just kind of really worked out when I first 112 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 2: met her. We met on Australia Day and we ended 113 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 2: up hanging out for like six and a half hours. 114 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: Now, what is Australia Date? You guys don't just have 115 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: like Hinge and Tinder. 116 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 2: Australia Day. It's like, uh, it's a holiday. So Australia 117 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 2: Day is like Independence Day or like Columbus Day. 118 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: Oh oh oh oh oh wait you met up on 119 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: Australia Day. Yeah, okay, I thought you said you met 120 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: her on a website called Australia Date. 121 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 2: No, we we actually met on Hinge. 122 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: Okay you understand, Okay, you understand. You understand where that 123 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: misunderstanding came from, right, Yeah, for sure, I was like, what, 124 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: I guess there's a website where you can just date Australian. 125 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: What was the other The other thing you said is 126 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: you said that you felt like you had to be 127 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: high to be around some of these people. Tell me 128 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: more about that. 129 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 2: Well, I used to actually this year stop smoking weed 130 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 2: as well. So, uh, I was just stoned all the time, man, 131 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 2: and like just being around people, and I felt like 132 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 2: that wasn't the only way I could communicate with people 133 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 2: because I was constantly stoned, and maybe nobody would like 134 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 2: me if I was constantly stoned. And yeah, the first 135 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 2: time I was ever around her, I just wasn't stoned, 136 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 2: and it was it was a real eye opener. It 137 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 2: was an epissan if you, like you said where I 138 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 2: was like, okay, I can do this, m m. Yeah. 139 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 2: Was as anxious? 140 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: Yeah? 141 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? 142 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: Was it was it that you just kind of felt 143 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: a constant state of anxiety and weed was like the 144 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: only way to get past it. 145 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, And actually, uh, once I stopped smoking and I 146 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 2: got away from the weed. Actually the anxiety actually went down. 147 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, so the weave. 148 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 2: Was actually making me really paranoid, at which I didn't 149 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 2: notice because you know, I'm waking up smoking three or 150 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 2: four bulls, going to work on my breaks, smoke some more, 151 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 2: smoke some more before I go to sleep. So I 152 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 2: was just like in constant marijuana hayes. 153 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: Mm hmmmm hm. Yes, what what made you want to quit? Recently? 154 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 2: I ran a marathon. I ran a marathon, and uh, 155 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 2: in order to prepare for the marathon, I just cut back, 156 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 2: cut back to back, and I, uh, before I had 157 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 2: a kate, This is before I knew I was having 158 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 2: a kid. I just didn't want to like smoke around 159 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 2: my kid or you know, be a stoner. I don't 160 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 2: care about like smoking weed every so often or whatever 161 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 2: like that, but like I just didn't want to be 162 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 2: like a stone dad. M So it all worked out, Yeah, 163 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 2: it was. It was. It was more so that I 164 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:05,719 Speaker 2: was smoking nicotine with the marijuana, and I wanted to 165 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 2: play it away from that. So yeah, yeah, exactly, I 166 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 2: wanted to get away from that. I always told myself 167 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 2: I wouldn't smoke nicotine. But you know, we do things 168 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 2: in life that we said we wouldn't do. 169 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 1: How long was your weed career prior to. 170 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 2: Quit, probably like thirteen years? 171 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, every day? 172 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 2: Initially, no, but once so I moved out to Oregon 173 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 2: when I was about twenty three, and the weed is 174 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 2: so cheap out there and it's so good that you know, 175 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 2: it just kind of let me down a rabbit hole 176 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 2: and smoking more and more blah blah blah. So it's 177 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 2: been it's been quite a journey. 178 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 179 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 180 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: The part about anxietyety like you smoke weed to alleviate anxiety, 181 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: but then you find that this weird converse way. It's 182 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: like you get high and then you get more anxious 183 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: and more parentally exactly. But and I and I wonder, 184 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: and again this is not the Andrew Huberman podcast, but 185 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: I do wonder, is like, is weed making me is 186 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: like a self fulfilling prophecy, where like weed makes me 187 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: anxious on the days that I am not smoking as well. 188 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I was fine in too. And it 189 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 2: is because they say, like marijuana is an addictive and 190 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 2: that was like in you know, the nineteen seventies where 191 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 2: the weed wasn't thirty six percent and thc and stuff 192 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 2: like that, and you know, it's just a lot more accessible, 193 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 2: a lot more open. It's not what it used to be. 194 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 2: So I think as it becomes stronger, it does become 195 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 2: more addictive, especially you're young and you're using. I definitely 196 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 2: think that your body can get like dependent on having that. 197 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 2: It may not be you know, uh, as physically of 198 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 2: a bad addiction as like heroin or other opie images 199 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 2: stuff like that, but like the mental addiction is what 200 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 2: I think gets a lot of people in strays, keeps 201 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 2: on from quitting and stuff like that, because it is. 202 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 2: It was very hard, and a large part of it, 203 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 2: like I told you, was the nicotine for me. And 204 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 2: then you're smoking blunts and stuff like that, then you're 205 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 2: definitely getting like that constant like nicotine high to where 206 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 2: you're not even noticing, and uh, it would be definitely 207 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 2: a lot harder for you to quit. 208 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm hmm. Have you replaced it with anything else, 209 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: whether it's something negative or positive. 210 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 2: Well, honestly, I just been focusing on life, being able 211 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 2: to run longer, like I said, I've been during marathon. 212 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 2: So this year I'm training for an iron Man and 213 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 2: just stuff like that trying to keep my body busy, 214 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 2: trying to keep my mind busy. It's like you said, 215 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 2: with masturvation, as long as you're out of the house, 216 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 2: you're not thinking about it. 217 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: I love the fuck it. I love the things. I 218 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: love the things that I just fucking say on this podcast, 219 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: not really really not registering that anyone actually hears them. 220 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: And then and then someone says, remember when you said 221 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: that you should just be out of the house as 222 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: much as you can so you don't masturbate as much, 223 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, yeah, you really did say that 224 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, and you know, and I fully stand 225 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: by it. I stand by it a lot because it's true. 226 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: Whenever I'm in the house, you know, it's uh, it's 227 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: a problem. But I don't do it outside because that's 228 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: a weak. Yeah. I think I would. I'd like to 229 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: think even if I'd like to think, even if it 230 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: wasn't illegal, I still wouldn't do it outside. But I 231 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: don't know. Who knows what life is like. It might 232 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: be kind. I mean, people do it, people definitely, even 233 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: though it's illegal, People definitely do it. People people do it. 234 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: I saw a guy jacking off on Venice Beach once, 235 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: and you know what the crazy thing is is nobody cared. 236 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: Nobody cared at all because it's what they expect. It's 237 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: like when you see it's like if when you're walking 238 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: through New York and you're on the subway, if you 239 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: just see guy masturbating, you're kind of like, at least 240 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: I'm kind of like, well that it's not It's like 241 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: seeing a palm tree in Florida. You know, it's like, 242 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: this is what it is? 243 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 2: This is it? 244 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: Nobody people are just on their phones. No one really 245 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: they avoid them, but they just you know, everyone's just 246 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: trying to get to where they want to be. So, uh, 247 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: what do you what's your job now? You're still a chef, right, Yeah. 248 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 2: I've been a chef for about, yeah, thirteen years. So 249 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 2: in the entire time i've been chefing, I've been smoking weed. Yeah. 250 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 2: I never went to culinary school or anything. If anybody 251 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 2: is listening, they want to become a chef, just get 252 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 2: a job in a kitchen. Deep, So to go to 253 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 2: culinary school. 254 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: What's your name again, I'm not going to forget this time. 255 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 2: My name is Ron. 256 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 3: Ron. 257 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: That's my dad's name. 258 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, Ron, give me a map, So you graduate high 259 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 4: school at eighteen, and then you're running around for a while. 260 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: Where all did you run around to? 261 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 2: So from eighteen twenty one, I stayed in Kansas City. 262 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 2: When I was twenty one, I actually smoked a shit 263 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 2: ton of weed one night and I ended up getting 264 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 2: on a grade Hound and moving to Order and. 265 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: You just I don't breeze past the story. 266 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 2: So you just. 267 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: Got really like what you're in your mom's house or 268 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: you're where are you like? And you just get really 269 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: hot outside that night to move. 270 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. So I'm I'm a hot box in the car 271 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 2: with my friend. We probably smoked like five or six months. 272 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 2: And I get home and it's like an Alexati experience 273 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 2: and I'm like, I don't know, I can't be here anymore. 274 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 2: I't my life is going to pass me by if 275 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 2: I don't leave right now. So I packed the backpack 276 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 2: full of clothes, drove down to the Greyhound station and 277 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 2: bought a ticket to Organ because I was supposed to 278 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 2: go with an ex girlfriend and we got broken up. 279 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, no, I don't want to stay 280 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 2: in Kansas City. I'm going anyway. 281 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: Wow. 282 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 2: And I didn't know anybody. I didn't have a plan 283 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 2: or anything like that. I ended up surviving out there 284 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 2: for eight months before I had to go home. My 285 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 2: sister told me, like, you could say, at my house 286 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 2: for three months for free, or you can go back 287 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 2: out to Oregon. And yeah, I ended up taking that 288 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 2: three months learning to cook at waffle house, and then 289 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 2: I went back out to Oregon and I ended up 290 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 2: getting a job in six days working in the kitchen. 291 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 2: So it was off to the races after. 292 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: Then the first those first eight months that you were 293 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 1: surviving in Oregon, after just that night packing up and 294 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: you just what you showed up with a backpack and yep, 295 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: that's it. 296 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I had two hundred and eighty dollars in my pocket. 297 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 2: I actually I had like couldn't cocted a plan on 298 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 2: the bus where like after I woke up. Either it 299 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 2: was Stony Hays where I'm like, oh shit, I'm on 300 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 2: my way to Oregon. So I was like, Okay, let 301 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 2: me see if I can you know, play nice enough 302 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 2: or you know, show off my personality to eat to 303 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 2: where somebody will let me crash on their couch. And yeah, 304 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 2: that's exactly what happened. One of the chicks on the bus, 305 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 2: she's like, you look extremely young. I know you're coming 306 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 2: out here to survive and try to figure it out. 307 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 2: But if you ever need a place to stay, there's 308 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 2: my number and give me a call. I stayed one 309 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 2: night in the hotel, gave her a call, and then 310 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 2: she let me crash on her couch for about two 311 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 2: months until I got on my feet. 312 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: You met a woman on the Greyhound bus to Oregon 313 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: that you ended up staying with for two months? 314 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, on her couch. Yeah it was. It was one 315 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 2: of the thirtiest places I've ever stayed. But you know, 316 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 2: at the end of the at the end of the night, 317 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 2: I was able to sleep somewhere with a roof over 318 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 2: my head, and I was happy. They were some of 319 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 2: the nicest people I've ever. 320 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: Met who was in this house. 321 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 2: It was her and her girlfriend at the time. 322 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: That's so wild. That's they just You've just got so 323 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: you got really lucky on that one. 324 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I did. And I Oregon gives out food stamps 325 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 2: like their water, so I was just paying for rent 326 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 2: those first two months and food stamps. I'm like, I 327 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 2: get two hundred and fifty dollars worth of food stamps. 328 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 2: This is all I can afford to give you. You 329 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 2: can have it all. Here's the cart. 330 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 3: Uh. 331 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 2: And then once I got a job, I got lucky 332 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 2: again because my boss at that job was like, hey, 333 00:19:55,640 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 2: I need a roommate. Cool, how much is rent? And 334 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 2: rent was about three hundred dollars. So I'm working at 335 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 2: seven eleven and working with my boss. 336 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: And what year is this? 337 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 2: This is two thousand and twelve slash thirteen. 338 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: Wow? And so when you all right, so you got 339 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: on a Greyhound bus and go to Oregon. You meet 340 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: this lady? How soon after you arrived did you get 341 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: a job? And then how'd you get that? 342 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 2: Two months? And I was just walking around adding, as 343 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 2: you know, going out giving out my resumes and stuff 344 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 2: like that, because the internet isn't as crazy as it 345 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 2: is now even ten years ago. So I'm just walking 346 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 2: around giving out my resume. Hey, my name is Ron. 347 00:20:54,680 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 2: If you need anybody to work, I'm your guy. The 348 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 2: place was actually about two and a half miles from 349 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 2: my house, so I'm walking to Mount two and a 350 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 2: half miles to work two and a half miles back 351 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 2: every single day. 352 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: Really. 353 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 2: Yeah. Eventually I got a skateboard to make it a 354 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 2: little bit easier, so that was my car. But yeah, 355 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,360 Speaker 2: worked in eight ten hours every single day. 356 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: Damn dude. How long were you there for? 357 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 5: All? 358 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:31,719 Speaker 1: Eight months? 359 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 3: Uh? 360 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah? And then I went back home to Kansas 361 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 2: City for a bit, and then I ended up going 362 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 2: back out to Oregon and beginning my journey as a chef. 363 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: What did that look like? Beginning your journey as a chef? 364 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: By the way, just so you know, Ron, I don't 365 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: know what your plans are for tonight, but I'm fully 366 00:21:55,600 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: prepared for this entire podcast episode of your life because 367 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by you. 368 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 2: So yeah, thank you loud, thank you. Aud So, after 369 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 2: I got back, like I told you, I had to 370 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,479 Speaker 2: start cooking at the waffle house. I know you're from 371 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 2: like the Northeast area. I don't know if you've been 372 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 2: to a waffle house. 373 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I used to. They have in Georgia where 374 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: I was a lot. 375 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, So I was working there, working nights, and 376 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 2: I told my sister while I had been out in Oregon, 377 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 2: I had heard chefs that were, you know, making thirteen 378 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 2: fourteen dollars an hour at the time, I'm like, that's 379 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 2: good money. So I told my sister teach me how 380 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 2: to cook. And then when I got back to Oregon, 381 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 2: I was working at a barbecue joint. It wasn't really fulfilling, 382 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 2: so I started working at a restaurant called Goostops. It's 383 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 2: closed now. It was a German spot. I had no 384 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 2: knowledge of them and food anything of the sorts. But 385 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 2: my chef, she uh looked at me and she's like, 386 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 2: you know, normally only hired people with a culinary degree, 387 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 2: but you see, you got a little bit of cooking experience. 388 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 2: You seem like you got your head on your shoulders. 389 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 2: So I'm going to give you a trial. And I 390 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 2: went in there and I just you know, killed. It 391 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 2: followed everything and everybody was settling me. H went straight 392 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 2: to the line. I wasn't doing dishes, I wasn't doing prep. 393 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 2: I was right on the line with the rest of 394 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 2: the other chefs and just trial by fire and it 395 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 2: was u it was an experience. H first night, I 396 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 2: sliced my hand open, and uh, I still had to 397 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 2: finish another six hours of putting my hand underneath the 398 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 2: salamander and working and stuff like that. So like it 399 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 2: was it. It was a intense first day and just 400 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 2: that first day made me fall in love with working 401 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 2: in the kitchen. It was a bunch of pirates and 402 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 2: you know, people just yelling and just pure chaos, like 403 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 2: this is this is it? This is for me? 404 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: Fuck you, fuck you? And that was And you said 405 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: that was eight years ago. 406 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 2: That was two thousand and fourteen, So about ten years ago. 407 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:36,679 Speaker 1: Now, wow, And how long are you in Oregon after that? 408 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: After you start working there? 409 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 2: So I lived in Oregon for another seven years. I 410 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 2: ended up I ended up cooking breakfast and stuff, had 411 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 2: a number of notable joints around there. And then me 412 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 2: and my brother we were being roommates. He has been 413 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 2: a piece of shit, so I ended up moving her out. 414 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 2: I ended up finding the website cool Works, and uh, 415 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,479 Speaker 2: I didn't really like where my life was going at 416 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 2: the time. You know, I had got this travel bug. 417 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 2: It's where I'm like, Okay, I made it in Portland, 418 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 2: let's see if I can do it somewhere else. So uh, 419 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 2: down that website and I ended up applying to go 420 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 2: to Alaska and that was an amazing trip in itself. 421 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 2: Like I was out there for about six months, living, working, 422 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 2: and eating all for free. So yeah, did that. Then 423 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 2: I came back to Oregon just didn't feel right after 424 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 2: I had left. 425 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: So you said, I'm sorry. You said in in uh, 426 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: in Oregon it didn't feel right, or in Alaska didn't 427 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: feel right. 428 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 2: In Oregon. After I came back from Alaska, I still 429 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 2: had this like deep burning passion to go out and 430 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 2: travel and you know, see more of the world. Uh 431 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 2: So I ended up taking a job in Wyoming, and 432 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 2: that was an experience in myself. I actually got to 433 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 2: work with a lot of celebrities and I cook that 434 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 2: one of the fanciest resorts in the world, and just 435 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 2: like really learning what it meant to be a chef, 436 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 2: not just cooking one cuisine and all that stuff. I 437 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 2: got to work in a French kitchen underneath a very 438 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 2: good chef and while being able to elevate all of 439 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 2: my skills and stuff like that. 440 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: So you, uh, well, first of all, I just want 441 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: to say, it's the fact that you spent seven years 442 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: in Oregon is pretty crazy, because whatever was in that 443 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: weed that night just fucking changed the entire course of 444 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 1: your life. Like that's that's amazing. I really, I just 445 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: and you initially picked that place because you were gonna 446 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 1: go there with the next girlfriends. 447 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And one night. 448 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: I love I love it. You're just one night. You're 449 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 1: just like, dude, fuck this, I'm not waiting anymore. I'm 450 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 1: fucking going tonight. So cool. Yeah, and then you just 451 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: fucking make it happen. Do you still keep in contact 452 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,439 Speaker 1: at all with the lady who's couch just left on? 453 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:45,959 Speaker 1: Or is she gone? 454 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 2: Uh Na? We haven't talked in years, but you know, 455 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 2: I still send her like the random happy days for 456 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 2: message and stuff like that, and her and her and 457 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 2: the chick that she was day and they actually ended 458 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 2: up breaking up and she just had her ex girlfriend 459 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 2: just had a baby, So I congratulated her on all 460 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 2: that stuff. So I made sure they knew that they 461 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 2: were appreciated. I ended up going back after I got 462 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 2: a job and moved out, and ended up giving them 463 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 2: like four or five hundred dollars just to say thank you. Cool. Yeah, 464 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 2: they they they they really saved me. I could have 465 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 2: been somewhere out on the street and really struggling, but 466 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 2: you know, they gave me a chance, and every opportunity 467 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 2: I've gotten while I've been on this journey, I've just 468 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 2: made the best of it and taking a chance. That's 469 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 2: really all it took. 470 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: I want to I want to get back to your 471 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: wyomic adventure. But first I have a I have a 472 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: question for you. If someone is listening to this right 473 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:05,959 Speaker 1: now and they're inspired by your your bold your boldness, okay, 474 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: and they were to maybe do a bold move as 475 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: you did, is there anything that you feel like you 476 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: learned from your your bold move that you would tell 477 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: somebody who's thinking of doing something similar. 478 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 2: Well, I learned this while I was in the military, 479 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 2: went to food camp and stuff like that. If you're comfortable, 480 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 2: you're probably doing it wrong. If you're uncomfortable, you're growing, 481 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 2: you're changing. You know, you're you're learning how to work 482 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 2: in a new environment. So my advice to anybody would 483 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 2: be to just stay open minded. Like if you're in 484 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 2: a new city, you know, you're somewhere that you're you're 485 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 2: doing something that you normally wouldn't be doing. Uh, just 486 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 2: stay open minded, you know, and keep your mind on 487 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 2: the goal. If the goal is just to get out 488 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 2: of your city and be somewhere else, fall into that. Uh, 489 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 2: don't don't be looking back in the past and say, oh, 490 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 2: I missed this about home, blah blah blah, because at 491 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 2: the end of the day you put yourself in this position, 492 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 2: you laugh, you wanted to do this. Now that you're here, 493 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 2: we live in it. 494 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,479 Speaker 1: The I heard something I know. You know, I feel 495 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: dumb because I heard this expression today and I didn't 496 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: realize and it's got to be a popular expression. But 497 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: the grass is greener where you water it. So if 498 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: that was the choice, you know, you either because you 499 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: go to Oregon and you're like, I should have stayed 500 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: back in ke because what's going on there? But if 501 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: you stay in Kansas City, go oh, what could have 502 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: been an Oregon? And it's like, you know whatever, exactly 503 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: as you said, It's like you chose to do the thing. So, 504 00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: you know, just fucking leaning to what every shows. I suppose. 505 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: So how did you go? How'd you get this job 506 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: working at UH as a celebrity chef in UH Wyoming? 507 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 2: Well, dude, same thing. I told you. That website cool 508 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 2: works has done wonders for me. 509 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: Go ahead, what is it again? 510 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 2: Cool cool works cool works dot com a free, free 511 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 2: promotion for them, literally the best. It's the best website too. 512 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 2: If you want to leave your hometown and you are 513 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 2: you're scared to get a job and you work in hospitality, 514 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 2: or even if you don't work in hospitality. Uh, there's 515 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 2: a ton of jobs on there, from fishing guides to 516 00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 2: being a ski uh what a what a those dudes 517 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 2: like a ski lift instructor or whatever. In Colorado, any 518 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 2: any resort in the United States, they have there. They 519 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 2: have an ad on there. And if you want to 520 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 2: go experience wise, even just for summer, excuse me, go 521 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 2: on cool works dot com. Especially if you're young then 522 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 2: you're in college, go on cool works. You'll get paid, 523 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 2: you'll be able to go somewhere else for the summer, 524 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 2: and it'll be a life change and experience. It literally 525 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 2: launched my entire like traveling career. 526 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: Fu y yeah. I was gonna say, like, let's say 527 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: somebody is like whatever, eighteen and maybe they don't want 528 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: to go to college, or they just graduated college, but 529 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: they graduated in something stupid like film and media arts, 530 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: you know, and they don't have any like like uh, 531 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: you know, hard skills or anything like that. Is this 532 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: is this something that you know people can can do 533 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: without a whole lot of experience. 534 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 2: Yep, yep. They they will teach you everything. Like the 535 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 2: job that I worked at it was you know, We 536 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 2: brought in new people every year, and uh we train 537 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 2: them up the three weeks before the season starts. You know, 538 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 2: you're in the kitchen, you're learning them and us giving 539 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 2: you all the stuff. You don't have a knife, there's 540 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 2: knives there. Like there's programs where like if you don't 541 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 2: want to work in the kitchen, you could just watch kids. 542 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 2: Anybody can watch a baby. 543 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: Not anybody, but some people. I'm gonna go, I'm gonna 544 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: rebuff that statement. I'm gonna I'm gonna say, not everybody 545 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: can can watch a baby, but I get what you mean. Yeah, 546 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: I you know, that's okay. I'm gonna actually check this 547 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: out because I was I was sitting around today being 548 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 1: like I should go do some fucking shit, even though 549 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: I just did a bunch of fucking shit. 550 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 5: But uh, all right, Yeah, even if you're in a 551 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,280 Speaker 5: film major, you can go there and do the marketing 552 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,959 Speaker 5: for them and do a photographers something like that. There's 553 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 5: a ton of different jobs that. 554 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 2: You can do stuff. 555 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: And that's how you, uh became a chef at this 556 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: this crazy resort place. 557 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So I ended up going out there in 558 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 2: two thousand and eighteen or seventeen and it was free housing. 559 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 2: I did have to sleep in a room with three 560 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 2: other dudes on bump beds, so it's like summer camp, 561 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 2: but it was free. Uh, three meals a day free 562 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 2: and then every single week I completed, I got a 563 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty dollars bonus that was paid out 564 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 2: to the MPUM this season. So with that bonus, I 565 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 2: took that bonus and I went down and stayed in 566 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 2: Peru for two and a half months. 567 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:08,720 Speaker 1: What did you do in Peru? 568 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 2: I just hung out, man, I just hung out, sassa dance, 569 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,240 Speaker 2: enjoyed the scene and re enjoyed the women in the museums. 570 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 1: We're there by yourself. 571 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I spoke a little bit of Spanish. So 572 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 2: but after after I came back and smoke a bit 573 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,959 Speaker 2: of Mount More Spanish. 574 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:36,800 Speaker 1: Fuck. Yeah, so cool. Now, when you were in Peru, 575 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 1: did you like stay at a hostel or something or 576 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: you were. 577 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 6: Just like, first month, I had an Airbnb red day 578 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 6: of redemption to it just came out, so you know, 579 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 6: I just uh, and. 580 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 1: You spent them. It's so funny. You know it's so 581 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: funny is that you just described like you were like, yeah, 582 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: I had a fucking awesome time in Peru. It was 583 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 1: rate the best two months of my life. All I 584 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: did was play red De Redemption two. And by the way, 585 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 1: by the way, I would believe you if that was 586 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 1: the case, because red De Redemption two is an awesome 587 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: is an amazing life experience. Yeah, the spent right. So 588 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 1: you're you're just in Peru. You bought a PlayStation four 589 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 1: in Peru and got red Diredemption two in Spanish. 590 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 2: Oh no, I brought my PlayStation four with me on 591 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 2: the plane. Already I was up to no good before 592 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 2: I even left. 593 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 1: And then where'd you go from Peru? 594 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 2: From Peru, I went back to Oregon, and then I 595 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 2: went back to Wyoming, and then I went down to 596 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:59,320 Speaker 2: uh the Keys in Florida. So I ended up living 597 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 2: down in Florida for about six months, working at it 598 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 2: another luxury resort down there, for it was a private 599 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 2: billionaire's yacht club. Also another job I found off with 600 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 2: cool Works, and it was it was miserable. 601 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 1: Why was that miserable? Uh? 602 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 2: It was just like it was. I'm not a fan 603 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:32,280 Speaker 2: of seventy degrees every single day. Uh, it's the same weather. 604 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna get with Florida it's like de japou. 605 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,399 Speaker 1: So what's I gotta I gotta ask you what is 606 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 1: the Because you're clearly a hard work and suffering builds 607 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 1: character kind of a guy. But what is the what? 608 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 1: How do you know if you're just fucking miserable and 609 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 1: you need to change something versus your going through a 610 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: hard time, that is molding your spirits. 611 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 2: If you hate you, if you if the thought of 612 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:13,840 Speaker 2: going into work gives you anxiety, and you know you 613 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 2: just hate this job and it doesn't bring you much 614 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 2: joy outside of getting paid, you need to move on. 615 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 2: That's uh, that's that's the best way I can describe it. 616 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 2: If it isn't bring you anything else besides monetary gainst, 617 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,319 Speaker 2: and uh, you need to move on because if the 618 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 2: people suck at the environment sucks, you're just you're just 619 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 2: kind of uh killing yourself for a dollar and you 620 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 2: can go somewhere else and be in a much better 621 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,760 Speaker 2: environment and enjoy yourself. 622 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 1: Have you ever been in a job that you identified 623 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:00,879 Speaker 1: that you just fuck hat and you quit? 624 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, my most recent job. 625 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 1: What was it that you hated about it? 626 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 2: Uh? Well, like so like I've never I've been lucky 627 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 2: enough to never been around like really abusive chefs, like 628 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 2: Turgole abusive chefs and stuff like that, and this guy 629 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 2: was just like the absolute worst. And I've worked for 630 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 2: better chefs who are who have their head on their 631 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,320 Speaker 2: shoulders way more. So I just couldn't do it. It wasn't 632 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 2: it wasn't conducive to me learning and growing. M hm. 633 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,799 Speaker 1: And where'd you go right after you quit that? 634 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,799 Speaker 2: Well, I'm going up to a kitchen up in Iron Bay. 635 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:56,360 Speaker 2: So that started my new job. Yeah, I haven't started 636 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,359 Speaker 2: my new job. I'm kind of on a break right now. 637 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 1: What are you doing with your break? 638 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 2: We are getting ready to celebrate Christmas is Christmas Eve today, 639 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 2: so we are finishing up all of our dishes for 640 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 2: tomorrow and getting ready to drive down to Canberra, the 641 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 2: capital of Australia. 642 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 1: When you first came to Australia, I assume that was 643 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,279 Speaker 1: a cool works thing. 644 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 2: Oh no, so actually I actually applied to come out 645 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:41,400 Speaker 2: here on a work on holiday visa in twenty nineteen, 646 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 2: and then obviously the entire world shut down. So I 647 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:53,279 Speaker 2: was out in Cali seeing a Kanye westconcert. I ended 648 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 2: up getting robbed that night. The next morning, when I 649 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 2: woke up, I had my visa for Australia approves. Just 650 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 2: kind of told my job out in Wyoming because I'm 651 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 2: back out in Wyoming at this point, Hey man, at 652 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 2: the beginning of twenty twenty two, I'm gonna be taking 653 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,239 Speaker 2: a dive and moving to Australia. 654 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 1: That's sick. Damn. Yeah, you live a cool life. I'm 655 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 1: very I'm very inspired talking to you. I've inspired that. 656 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 1: I'm inspired by a few things. Is that you just 657 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 1: really seem like a guy who won't settle for being 658 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: unhappy or being you know, comfortable in a bad way, 659 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 1: even even the fact that it took you one hundred 660 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:51,400 Speaker 1: plus dates to find a woman you really wanted to 661 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 1: start a life with and fucking you know, going so 662 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 1: boldly to Oregon on a whim him and uh, sticking 663 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 1: it out through difficult jobs, but in finding joy within 664 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:12,440 Speaker 1: the difficulty. It's it's really cool. I really appreciate the 665 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 1: way that you look at and live your life. 666 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's all life really is. Like, I'm 667 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,319 Speaker 2: not a persistent guy when it comes to dating. That's 668 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,800 Speaker 2: why I've had so many dates. If you don't seem interested, 669 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,360 Speaker 2: then I'm not interested. So I think a lot of 670 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:33,879 Speaker 2: people they kind of they get too involved with one 671 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 2: person who doesn't seem interested with them when they could 672 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,320 Speaker 2: just move on to the next person. 673 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, that seems to be the better strategy instead of 674 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 1: trying to let you know, you know what, you know 675 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 1: what it is. I I it's so funny. I was 676 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 1: talking to my friend's girlfriend about this, Like anytime you're 677 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,320 Speaker 1: like analyzing a text that someone sent you, or like 678 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 1: you're showing your friends like what does what does this 679 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,800 Speaker 1: guy mean? Or what does this girl mean? What? Really? 680 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 1: I think what is really going on is like you 681 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 1: in your gut like know what they mean, and you're 682 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 1: like begging your friends and begging your ego for any 683 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 1: interpretation that is not what your gut knows they mean. 684 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 1: Because you're what your gut knows they mean. You don't 685 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 1: like you know, but it's it's way easier to just 686 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 1: you know, charge it to the game and keep going. 687 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I did for a while. I was 688 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 2: like an old Inns game One Life and you're out, 689 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 2: Sorry to work for me. Maybe that that I passed 690 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,279 Speaker 2: up a lot of good people, But at the end 691 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 2: of the day, I'm happy with the person that I'm with. 692 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 1: That's wonderful. 693 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:49,799 Speaker 3: Man. 694 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 2: It just takes a lot of trial there. And honestly, 695 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 2: I didn't I didn't want to date in my twenties. 696 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 2: I put that on the back end and just really 697 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 2: went and traveled and saw the world and new experiences 698 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 2: and met people and oh that good stuff. I think 699 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,320 Speaker 2: that's what you really should be doing. I'm actually envious 700 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,680 Speaker 2: of you with your whole podcast and stuff like that. 701 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:19,760 Speaker 2: The fact that you are able to just do something 702 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,120 Speaker 2: you really love and make money from it. 703 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,839 Speaker 1: Fuck. Man, Yeah, you're inspiring me because I I, well, 704 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,839 Speaker 1: it's uh here, I mean, here's where I'm at when 705 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,759 Speaker 1: my life is. Like I just I've went on like 706 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:41,799 Speaker 1: three tours and it was like so cool to get 707 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 1: to see I really do I fucking really in my core. 708 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,840 Speaker 1: In my core is a guy who like fucking loves 709 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,799 Speaker 1: life and loves traveling and loves talking to people. And 710 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:58,480 Speaker 1: I get very disconnected from that core because of like 711 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:05,440 Speaker 1: depression and fall and uh just problems and things and 712 00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:09,279 Speaker 1: this long periods of time. I feel very disconnected with 713 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 1: that guy in my core that like loves life and people. 714 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,640 Speaker 1: And then uh, and then something just comes where like 715 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,800 Speaker 1: I awake and I'm like, well, wait a minute, I 716 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,759 Speaker 1: wanna I actually I like things. I want to go out, 717 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 1: I want to see the world. I'm gonna die all 718 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 1: this stuff. But then I don't know. I get there's 719 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:33,720 Speaker 1: a lot to enjoy about domestic life, like having clean 720 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:38,799 Speaker 1: laundry and uh yeah, going to the gym regularly and 721 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 1: eating salmon and all that stuff, and I'm like, I 722 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:48,680 Speaker 1: wanna ultimately live a life where I can eat salmon 723 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 1: and go to Australia randomly. But I don't know. It's 724 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,960 Speaker 1: it's used to be a very like adventure has always 725 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:03,000 Speaker 1: been a very core tenant of my life. But it's hard, 726 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,720 Speaker 1: especially when you do it alone. It's really hard because 727 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,560 Speaker 1: sometimes when you go somewhere alone and you stay at 728 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 1: a on some random guy this couch that you met 729 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 1: on the internet, you get into these situations where you're like, uh, well, one, 730 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 1: when you go alone, you experience like really deep fucking 731 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:30,960 Speaker 1: melancholy and sadness. Oh my god, I'm lone's fun yeah, 732 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,279 Speaker 1: just loneliness, and you're like, I like, I was in 733 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:38,080 Speaker 1: Thailand and I was at a McDonald's by myself, crying 734 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,880 Speaker 1: at night, and I was like, I'm gonna cry, like 735 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:46,840 Speaker 1: I'm twenty six crying alone in a McDonald's in Thailand, 736 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:51,960 Speaker 1: which in the moment is it feels really pathetic, but 737 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 1: then looking back on it, I'm like, like, when i'm 738 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,160 Speaker 1: you know, forty, and I have kids or whatever, I'm 739 00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,880 Speaker 1: gonna be like, oh that was there was something poetic 740 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:05,680 Speaker 1: about crying alone in that McDonald's. I'm like, I'm glad 741 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,239 Speaker 1: that sucked in the moment, but I'm glad I did that. 742 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 1: Like there's so you get to kind of be in 743 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:15,960 Speaker 1: this poetic melancholy sadness. But then also there's really high 744 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,880 Speaker 1: highs where you meet some person at a thing and 745 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 1: then you're at this thing and you're whatever, and you're like, oh, 746 00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,760 Speaker 1: how the fuck did this even happen? This is crazy, 747 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,720 Speaker 1: this is amazing, Like oh my god, I'm like living 748 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 1: like Walter Midty, like life is a movie kind of shit. 749 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:35,360 Speaker 1: But you got to go through the the melancholyly to 750 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,040 Speaker 1: get there. I'm really with you, I really think, especially 751 00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,279 Speaker 1: if you've if you're someone who's never left the country before, 752 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 1: never done anything like that, you know you really got to. 753 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,160 Speaker 1: But right now I'm like, I gotta I gotta lose 754 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,759 Speaker 1: fifty pounds and eat salmon and stuff. What were you 755 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:51,200 Speaker 1: gonna say? 756 00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:56,040 Speaker 2: Wow, go ahead. When I was in Peru, I actually 757 00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,560 Speaker 2: experienced a lot of this you're talking about, like been 758 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 2: somewhere and just crying stuff in my face, like just 759 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,319 Speaker 2: being a streaming lonely. But while I was in Peru, 760 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,960 Speaker 2: I just took the time to really work out every 761 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:17,480 Speaker 2: single day outside stuff like that. Calisthetics is amazing. You 762 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,919 Speaker 2: don't have to go to the gym. You can buy 763 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,040 Speaker 2: stuff at home where you're just doing push ups, doing 764 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,480 Speaker 2: squats and all this stuff like that to where you 765 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,279 Speaker 2: you know, I used to do one hundred push ups 766 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,280 Speaker 2: every single day. 767 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,520 Speaker 1: Of course you do. 768 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,520 Speaker 2: And that just kind of helped me stay focused and 769 00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,600 Speaker 2: stay on the grind. I know weight loss. I struggle 770 00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:48,880 Speaker 2: with weight gain. I'm extremely skinny and that really bothers me. 771 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:52,800 Speaker 2: I wish I could gain weight easy. So I definitely 772 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:58,200 Speaker 2: recognize you having a problem with your weight and wanting 773 00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,319 Speaker 2: to do something about it. You just have to kind 774 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:01,360 Speaker 2: of stay on the path. 775 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought I could do it while I was 776 00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,759 Speaker 1: on tour, and it's like, I really just can't. But 777 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:08,480 Speaker 1: then I think get bored. I don't know, it's it's 778 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 1: it's it's good. It's good problems to have, you know, Well, 779 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:17,040 Speaker 1: tell me this. Yeah, so you just found out your 780 00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,759 Speaker 1: girlfriend is pregnant or how did you How did that 781 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,640 Speaker 1: make you feel? Are you excited about the future. We 782 00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,840 Speaker 1: talked about the past, we talked about the present, the present. 783 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:30,279 Speaker 1: We shall end this with the future of Ron's life. 784 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,200 Speaker 2: Uh I am. I am extremely nervous, obviously, like every 785 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:40,160 Speaker 2: parent would be. Uh. I think it'll be good. I'm 786 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,680 Speaker 2: moving away from a job that was making me unhappy 787 00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,520 Speaker 2: and moving somewhere else. It's kind of like lit a 788 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,759 Speaker 2: fire in the treat get out of the kitchen and 789 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:54,520 Speaker 2: do something that's a little bit more family friendly. So 790 00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,200 Speaker 2: that's what I'm trying to do, honest, to maybe move 791 00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,640 Speaker 2: into something different that I could spend time with my 792 00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,560 Speaker 2: girlfriend and my future child. 793 00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,680 Speaker 1: What's what's on your mind? What are you thinking? 794 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:15,360 Speaker 2: Well, I was thinking of electricians, but I might just 795 00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,760 Speaker 2: do something on the computer, like cyberce security or something 796 00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:24,120 Speaker 2: like that, something technical that I could do from home 797 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,839 Speaker 2: or not be at work all hours or didn't night. 798 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:32,920 Speaker 1: So are you worried that you'll after so much time 799 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,640 Speaker 1: in this like fast paced environment that you really loved, 800 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:40,160 Speaker 1: are you? Are you worried about a career change. 801 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,920 Speaker 2: No, I've been longing for a career change for about 802 00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:50,239 Speaker 2: two years now. But unfortunately in Australia, I'm a sponsored 803 00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:55,000 Speaker 2: I'm on a sponsorship visa, so I couldn't leave the 804 00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,920 Speaker 2: job that I'm at. I'm at, but I'm I'm on 805 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,920 Speaker 2: my way to obtaining my p are, so they're not 806 00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:07,600 Speaker 2: keen basically be an Australian citizen, get the medicare, get 807 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:12,439 Speaker 2: the cheaper school, all that stuff like that. So it's 808 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:13,480 Speaker 2: just all it's all. 809 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,239 Speaker 1: Is it hard to becoming a can you? Well, are 810 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,520 Speaker 1: you not married to this lady? Are you? 811 00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:21,200 Speaker 2: No? No yet? 812 00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:23,600 Speaker 1: Oh so if you if you if you get if 813 00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,880 Speaker 1: you get married, are you gonna do you just become 814 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:27,000 Speaker 1: a citizen or how does that work? 815 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:28,520 Speaker 3: Uh? 816 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:32,120 Speaker 2: No, you actually have to pay ten thousand Australian to 817 00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,399 Speaker 2: apply for a partnership. 818 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:35,799 Speaker 1: Us get the fuck out of here. 819 00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:38,759 Speaker 3: Yeah. 820 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, but not only do you have to pay for 821 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,080 Speaker 2: the wedding and stuff like that, you have to convince 822 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:48,640 Speaker 2: the government that uh you are a legitimate couple and 823 00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,839 Speaker 2: that you want to be together. So that typically means 824 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,880 Speaker 2: you can't leave the country for two to three years 825 00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:59,080 Speaker 2: while they thereify all of that stuff. So, uh, I'm 826 00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:04,200 Speaker 2: going the other route with my job, so that I 827 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,719 Speaker 2: basically have a job. Say yeah, we need this guy, 828 00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:11,560 Speaker 2: we'd like to keep him around. We will sponsor. 829 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:16,200 Speaker 1: And after living a nomadic life for so long, how 830 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,160 Speaker 1: are you feeling about settling down with a kid? 831 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,360 Speaker 2: Uh? Like I said, it was, it was kind of 832 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,879 Speaker 2: that same thing, like I've done the chef thing. Got 833 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:29,799 Speaker 2: done everything that I feel like I wanted to do 834 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,640 Speaker 2: in the culinary world because I have no want on 835 00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:37,560 Speaker 2: a restaurant. After that, I just kind of wanted to 836 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:44,560 Speaker 2: start reading a regular life. I wanted to experience what 837 00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,399 Speaker 2: other people experience, have been off of work at five 838 00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,160 Speaker 2: o'clock and stuff like that. 839 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna if you're down. I know, I know I've 840 00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,720 Speaker 1: kept you on the phone for a long time here, 841 00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:57,960 Speaker 1: but if you're down, I want to see if the 842 00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:03,000 Speaker 1: chat perhaps has any questions for Ron. I'm gonna I'm 843 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,359 Speaker 1: gonna see if the chat I can read them out 844 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:15,839 Speaker 1: to you. Let me see here, let's see here. Uh, 845 00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,719 Speaker 1: someone just said are you a fancy chef? That I 846 00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,360 Speaker 1: only I swear to God, if there was enough that 847 00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,200 Speaker 1: was the only question so far. If I saw a 848 00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:24,800 Speaker 1: better question. 849 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:31,439 Speaker 6: I would have asked, I've done high end work. 850 00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:35,400 Speaker 2: I've done I've worked so alt In Wyoming, I was 851 00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:39,560 Speaker 2: in a French kitchen making the consummes and nokis and 852 00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:43,600 Speaker 2: agnalodi pasta from scratch and stuff like that. I used 853 00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:49,000 Speaker 2: to eat Wago beef every single day. Uh yeah, I 854 00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:50,040 Speaker 2: guess you could say. 855 00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:58,040 Speaker 1: Has working in a kitchen caused you to trust less 856 00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:02,359 Speaker 1: in the food that you're getting when you like order it? Like, 857 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,879 Speaker 1: are like, do you have you seen anything gross where 858 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:06,120 Speaker 1: you're like, oh god. 859 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:11,880 Speaker 2: Uh no, it's I actually try not like it's actually 860 00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,160 Speaker 2: like other people when they go into a restaurant, No, 861 00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:20,080 Speaker 2: this isn't the best. And I just go into a restaurant. 862 00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:23,720 Speaker 2: I prefer that, like it's it's just good. When somebody 863 00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,360 Speaker 2: else is cooking for me, did you try? 864 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:26,920 Speaker 3: Oh? 865 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:28,959 Speaker 1: Sorry, what's what's your girlfriend cooking? 866 00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:34,000 Speaker 2: She can cook? She's no, you'll find it. 867 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:35,640 Speaker 4: Oh she is? 868 00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:36,080 Speaker 2: She is? 869 00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:37,760 Speaker 1: She is that who's in the background. 870 00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:40,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, tell her. 871 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,920 Speaker 1: I said, thank you for letting me steal you away 872 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:44,360 Speaker 1: for a fucking hour. 873 00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:50,960 Speaker 2: No, you're fine. 874 00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:55,440 Speaker 1: Someone said you have you tried ayahuasca in Peru? 875 00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:05,360 Speaker 2: No? But I've done a fair amount of ass. I 876 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,440 Speaker 2: never made it out to the jungle. While I was 877 00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:11,360 Speaker 2: in Peru after ben out in Wyoming for six and 878 00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,880 Speaker 2: a half seven months, I just wanted to be in 879 00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:18,680 Speaker 2: a city, dance, eat good food, meet people. Actually ended 880 00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:20,880 Speaker 2: up going on a tender date while I was there 881 00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:27,320 Speaker 2: and met two of my really good friends. 882 00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:31,560 Speaker 1: Someone wants to know what town in Alaska did you 883 00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:31,880 Speaker 1: go to? 884 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,839 Speaker 2: I went to Craig, Alaska. I was on the Prince 885 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,400 Speaker 2: of Wales Island, so it was about an hour and 886 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,560 Speaker 2: a half away from Catchkan, which is like a big 887 00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:48,600 Speaker 2: port area of cruise lines and stuff there. 888 00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:54,480 Speaker 1: Someone said, Oh, this is interesting. So how would not 889 00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:58,759 Speaker 1: having to make money change your relationship to cooking? Like, 890 00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:00,920 Speaker 1: would you cook even if you didn't have to? 891 00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:03,439 Speaker 3: Uh? 892 00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:06,879 Speaker 2: Probably not. I'm not going to lie to you. I'm 893 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,760 Speaker 2: a picky eater, so like me being a chef doesn't 894 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:16,760 Speaker 2: make sense because I am a strict, extremely picky eater. Uh. 895 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:23,840 Speaker 2: So I enjoy I enjoy the the joy that people 896 00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,799 Speaker 2: get on their faces when they have good food. So 897 00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,360 Speaker 2: I guess my love language is just doing for people 898 00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,600 Speaker 2: and stuff like that. It doesn't have to necessarily be cooking. 899 00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:36,680 Speaker 1: So wants to know, Uh, well, a couple people will 900 00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,440 Speaker 1: asked what your favorite dish is to cook, and then 901 00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:43,280 Speaker 1: someone said, what is the weirdest thing you have ever cooked? 902 00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:50,239 Speaker 2: My favorite dish is chicken marsala, the Italian version, not 903 00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:57,000 Speaker 2: the Indian version, and the weirdest thing God ever cooked. 904 00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:07,520 Speaker 2: M Well, I don't know. I saw these this thing 905 00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:12,040 Speaker 2: this lady made on Instagram. It was shrimp shrimp albundius, 906 00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:15,839 Speaker 2: which is basically like shrimp meatballs, and I did them 907 00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,600 Speaker 2: as an amuse for the restaurant that I was working at, 908 00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:21,919 Speaker 2: and they actually turned out really freaking good. 909 00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:27,439 Speaker 1: Uh, this one. Uh, this is totally totally up to you. 910 00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:33,080 Speaker 1: But somebody asked if you have a social media presence 911 00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:37,480 Speaker 1: because they're very inspired by your lifestyle. Uh, if you 912 00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:41,360 Speaker 1: want to be flooded with with gecko people, you're you're 913 00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:42,320 Speaker 1: You're welcome to. 914 00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:48,720 Speaker 2: Uh yeah sure. My Instagram handle was Met on the 915 00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:52,000 Speaker 2: Moon eight one six. My profile is public, so I 916 00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,040 Speaker 2: just post a lot of memes and stuff like that. 917 00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,800 Speaker 2: But it does have a fair amount of stuff that 918 00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:57,320 Speaker 2: I've done. 919 00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:04,400 Speaker 1: I get Matt Man on the Moon, Man on the 920 00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:08,360 Speaker 1: Moon eight one six, is that kid cutting reference? 921 00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:12,400 Speaker 2: Yes, sir, yes, sir, My guy live front. 922 00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:16,080 Speaker 1: Row, Like, all right, we gotta get him on the podcast. 923 00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:17,680 Speaker 1: We got to get him in a get Go suit 924 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:19,000 Speaker 1: maybe one. 925 00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:20,280 Speaker 2: Day, Yeah for sure. 926 00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:27,400 Speaker 1: Well Ron, Ron, it was fucking seriously, it's awesome talking 927 00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,640 Speaker 1: to you. Thanks for telling us the journey of your life. 928 00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,920 Speaker 1: I really do like it would be so cool to 929 00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:37,680 Speaker 1: me if like I get a DM like six months 930 00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,960 Speaker 1: after this podcast airs of someone being like yo, I 931 00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:44,160 Speaker 1: went on that website that Ron was talking about and uh, 932 00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:48,680 Speaker 1: now I live in uh fucking Costa Rica or whatever, 933 00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:52,959 Speaker 1: and I'm married and you know whatever, that'd be cool 934 00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,560 Speaker 1: if someone like actually does some shit off of. 935 00:58:55,520 --> 00:59:01,479 Speaker 2: This, maybe I'll directtion it. Yeah, anybody, if you want 936 00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:05,200 Speaker 2: to go travel, get on cool works dot com. Uh. 937 00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:10,000 Speaker 2: There's all kinds of different states, Rhode Island, uh, freaking 938 00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:12,680 Speaker 2: anywhere you want to go in the US. There's more 939 00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:16,000 Speaker 2: than likely a job there that you can do. Uh. 940 00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,720 Speaker 2: There's places that you can live and eat for free 941 00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,080 Speaker 2: and just make money. 942 00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:23,680 Speaker 1: Ron, my friend, is there anything else you want to 943 00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:25,960 Speaker 1: say to the people of the computer before we go. 944 00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:32,320 Speaker 2: I'm always just stay persistent in your and your goals 945 00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:34,920 Speaker 2: and your dreams. You guys, if you got something that 946 00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,440 Speaker 2: you want to through, see it through. You may be 947 00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:40,560 Speaker 2: uncomfortable at the time game, but at the end of 948 00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:41,680 Speaker 2: the day, it'll be worth it. 949 00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:46,520 Speaker 1: Ron You're hero, your legend. Thanks for thanks for your 950 00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:50,560 Speaker 1: time and uh mozeltov On on the Beautiful life and 951 00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:51,520 Speaker 1: the Beautiful family. 952 00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,440 Speaker 2: Thank you well, it was an honor talking to you. 953 00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,960 Speaker 2: I've been trying for a long time, so thank you. 954 00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:04,840 Speaker 1: They have a good night. Oh what a call. What 955 01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,520 Speaker 1: a guy. That was one of my favorite calls we've 956 01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:11,440 Speaker 1: we've had in a while. That's really my favorite thing 957 01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,320 Speaker 1: about doing this podcast is like, uh, I know that 958 01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:18,400 Speaker 1: though the way this podcast is framed can sometimes be 959 01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,280 Speaker 1: like that it's like an advice podcast, and it definitely 960 01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:24,320 Speaker 1: uh exkews that way a lot of the time. But 961 01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:28,080 Speaker 1: I've said this before. My favorite thing about doing what 962 01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:32,200 Speaker 1: I do is that I get to, you know, not 963 01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:37,520 Speaker 1: only interact with people in a way where I'm like 964 01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:43,760 Speaker 1: getting to soak up the lived experience of other people 965 01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:48,360 Speaker 1: you know, all around the world, but also that you know, 966 01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:54,760 Speaker 1: part of that conversation is broadcasted to a bunch of people, uh, 967 01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:58,160 Speaker 1: such as you listening to this, who are also getting 968 01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:02,120 Speaker 1: to learn from other people's learned experience, lived experience. It's 969 01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:07,040 Speaker 1: really cool. It's really cool. So thank you very much 970 01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:10,440 Speaker 1: Ron for sharing your story. I'm gonna check out this 971 01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:14,800 Speaker 1: coolworks dot com thing because really, like if I wasn't 972 01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:19,280 Speaker 1: doing what I do now, that like serious, like if 973 01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:23,640 Speaker 1: tomorrow it was just like my podcast was scrubbed from 974 01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:27,040 Speaker 1: the Internet or whatever, like and I couldn't do this anymore, 975 01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:31,280 Speaker 1: that probably is what I would do. It's like just 976 01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:36,480 Speaker 1: be like, well fuck it, let's go to uh Alaska 977 01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:40,400 Speaker 1: and see what the hell's going on over there. So 978 01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:45,680 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe I'll check it out. Very nice. 979 01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:47,000 Speaker 1: Do I have anything else to say? 980 01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:50,680 Speaker 3: Uh? 981 01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:54,560 Speaker 1: I could say that was cool again, that was cool. 982 01:01:55,400 --> 01:02:01,800 Speaker 1: I did enjoy that, and thank you for listening. Hello. 983 01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:04,000 Speaker 3: How's it going? 984 01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:05,600 Speaker 1: Hey there? What's your name? 985 01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:08,560 Speaker 3: My name is Zach, Zach. 986 01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:10,120 Speaker 1: What's up, Zach? How you doing? 987 01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:16,760 Speaker 3: Not much? I just graduated at MTSU. He actually came 988 01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:17,760 Speaker 3: and visited. 989 01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:24,640 Speaker 1: Us Falk dude. Ah man, you know, sometimes I feel 990 01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:26,240 Speaker 1: like a piece of shit and then I'm like, oh wait, 991 01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:29,040 Speaker 1: actually I've done a lot of cool things like that. 992 01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:32,400 Speaker 1: That happened to me recently. I was like, I like 993 01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:38,560 Speaker 1: I was talking to somebody about Middle Tennessee State University, 994 01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:40,720 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh yeah, that was only like 995 01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:43,600 Speaker 1: a couple months ago, and that was awesome. That was 996 01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:45,520 Speaker 1: a great time. Had a great time at that show. 997 01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:46,600 Speaker 1: Were you there? 998 01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:48,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? 999 01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:48,440 Speaker 1: I was. 1000 01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:50,360 Speaker 3: I was in like the back. I showed up late 1001 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,800 Speaker 3: with like one of my friends and it was it 1002 01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:55,520 Speaker 3: was It was a good show. I mean, your National 1003 01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:57,120 Speaker 3: show was way better. 1004 01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:03,880 Speaker 1: I was also there really which Nashville, Yeah, the one 1005 01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:07,320 Speaker 1: where Insane Posse showed up? Oh yeah, the one the 1006 01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,960 Speaker 1: one was checking. Yeah, I love that one. 1007 01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:10,160 Speaker 3: Man. 1008 01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:10,920 Speaker 1: I had a good fun. 1009 01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:11,960 Speaker 2: How did you hook that up? 1010 01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:13,600 Speaker 3: How did you get Like? 1011 01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:17,400 Speaker 1: Well, he and I had been talking about because they're 1012 01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:19,800 Speaker 1: in Detroit, and he and I had been talking about 1013 01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:23,360 Speaker 1: me doing something with them like on the podcast, but 1014 01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:28,040 Speaker 1: then it just both happened to be in Nashville at 1015 01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:31,560 Speaker 1: the same time, and so he came on. Oh my god, 1016 01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:33,160 Speaker 1: that was so cool. That was one of the sickest. 1017 01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:35,360 Speaker 1: I had a great time at that show. That was 1018 01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,080 Speaker 1: so cool. I think that was the only time we've 1019 01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:41,120 Speaker 1: ever had like a like celebrity guest on a live 1020 01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:42,040 Speaker 1: show before. 1021 01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:46,440 Speaker 3: Well, that was like so impressive. I mean, and then 1022 01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:49,680 Speaker 3: we had like two marriage proposals, like right after. 1023 01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:53,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, that one was like nuts, that was fun. That 1024 01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:55,280 Speaker 1: was fun. Yeah, I had a great time at that 1025 01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:58,320 Speaker 1: uh at that college show. Those are good. That was 1026 01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:02,960 Speaker 1: that was good. Well, okay, so you just graduated and yeah, 1027 01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:05,200 Speaker 1: how are you doing? Are you depressed? 1028 01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:08,640 Speaker 3: No, no, no, don't worry. I'm on I'm on the 1029 01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:10,600 Speaker 3: good side of like calls today. 1030 01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:11,440 Speaker 1: Okay. 1031 01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:16,440 Speaker 3: I mean like looking for like a job and stuff, 1032 01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:20,360 Speaker 3: but I kind of just want to do uh a 1033 01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:23,000 Speaker 3: thing called like jet program. We're just like teaching English 1034 01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:23,720 Speaker 3: and like Japan. 1035 01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:29,520 Speaker 1: Well, the guy we just talked to was uh like 1036 01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:33,880 Speaker 1: I feel like kind of talking about those kinds of things. 1037 01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:40,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I I applied in like November, and now I'm 1038 01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:43,680 Speaker 3: just like sitting around waiting until they get back to me, 1039 01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:48,160 Speaker 3: which is like they do uh they do it in waves, 1040 01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:51,920 Speaker 3: so like in like country by country, like South Africa 1041 01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:55,240 Speaker 3: like heard back first and then the UK people just 1042 01:04:55,280 --> 01:05:00,760 Speaker 3: heard about it, and then I'm just sitting around waiting around. 1043 01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:02,960 Speaker 3: But I want to do it with like my partner 1044 01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:08,920 Speaker 3: because we're both like just interested in living in Japan, 1045 01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:11,480 Speaker 3: like traveling around and stuff. 1046 01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:13,440 Speaker 1: Really cool, really cool way Japan. 1047 01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:20,320 Speaker 3: Uh, mostly just because of the culture and stuff. I mean, 1048 01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:23,600 Speaker 3: like I like the United States, but I want to dip, 1049 01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:32,280 Speaker 3: Like it's just kind of uncomfortable here in Tennessee. I 1050 01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:35,920 Speaker 3: guess I don't know. 1051 01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:41,240 Speaker 1: Japan kicks ass. Japan's a great place to hang out in. 1052 01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:44,200 Speaker 1: I don't know a whole lot about Like I only 1053 01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:49,840 Speaker 1: learned like a few Japanese phrases. But I feel like 1054 01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:54,320 Speaker 1: with languages, it's like if you really kind of go 1055 01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:57,680 Speaker 1: at it for a year, you can you can do 1056 01:05:57,720 --> 01:05:59,960 Speaker 1: pretty good. Are you well, you're not trying to learn 1057 01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:03,200 Speaker 1: in Japanese? You want to teach English in Japanese in Japan? 1058 01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:08,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, So they don't have like many requirements like if 1059 01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:10,000 Speaker 3: you want to like go to like South Korea or 1060 01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:14,240 Speaker 3: anything like that, they require you to like do like 1061 01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:19,640 Speaker 3: a TfL like course which is like one hundred and 1062 01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:22,480 Speaker 3: twenty hours, but like you can do in like six months. 1063 01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:27,680 Speaker 3: But we're also looking at those opportunities. But like all 1064 01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:32,360 Speaker 3: those conversations started from like oh maybe maybe like Peace 1065 01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:36,760 Speaker 3: Corps or something like that. I don't know. And we've 1066 01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:40,080 Speaker 3: been applying around just saying what we want to put 1067 01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:41,440 Speaker 3: ourselves forward towards. 1068 01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:45,240 Speaker 1: I think I think, yeah, with a lot of those 1069 01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:51,800 Speaker 1: like ESL programs, it's interesting because I am. I do 1070 01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:53,560 Speaker 1: know that a lot of them don't require you to 1071 01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:58,680 Speaker 1: speak the language that you're teaching the people to, which 1072 01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:02,560 Speaker 1: is crazy because when I was in eighth grade, I 1073 01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:13,320 Speaker 1: took a Spanish class and that lady spoke English. Well, well, no, 1074 01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:15,200 Speaker 1: you like you know, like like with like in America, 1075 01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:18,240 Speaker 1: like all the like, like when you were in middle school, 1076 01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:20,160 Speaker 1: you have to take like Spanish or French or some shit. 1077 01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:22,720 Speaker 3: I took German at high school. 1078 01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:25,600 Speaker 1: Okay, you're German high school teacher. She spoke English, right. 1079 01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:30,280 Speaker 3: Uh yeah, she like grew up here in America then 1080 01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:34,160 Speaker 3: like went over to like Germany, and then I got 1081 01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:37,520 Speaker 3: like a second teacher that had like committed his whole 1082 01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:40,040 Speaker 3: life to like living in Germany and then coming back here. 1083 01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:43,160 Speaker 1: But like that would be crazy. If they just had 1084 01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:46,800 Speaker 1: a just fully one hundred percent German lady come in 1085 01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:50,640 Speaker 1: and just speak German to the whole time, you wouldn't 1086 01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:51,480 Speaker 1: learn anything. 1087 01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:57,320 Speaker 3: My girlfriend, when she took like French at the high school, 1088 01:07:57,360 --> 01:08:02,080 Speaker 3: they originally had like this like very country person teaching 1089 01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:07,240 Speaker 3: like French, and apparently like after she got replaced by 1090 01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:10,520 Speaker 3: a real French person, it was very very hard to 1091 01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:14,120 Speaker 3: like transition to students because they had like created like 1092 01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:15,560 Speaker 3: bad habits and stuff. 1093 01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:20,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, here's the thing with like learning the languages. 1094 01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:23,479 Speaker 1: I feel like it's not that bad to like learn 1095 01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:29,160 Speaker 1: it badly, Like like the the grammar doesn't really matter. 1096 01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:33,800 Speaker 1: If you speak a broken second language, as as an American, 1097 01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:35,760 Speaker 1: then you're doing pretty good. 1098 01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:38,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1099 01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:39,840 Speaker 3: I had to learn a little bit of Spanish for 1100 01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:41,480 Speaker 3: working at like a paint. 1101 01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:42,519 Speaker 2: Store that I worked at. 1102 01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:47,200 Speaker 3: But like I'm like kind of adjusted towards like picking 1103 01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:51,439 Speaker 3: up like phrases and like, yeah, just like the culture 1104 01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:52,240 Speaker 3: surrounding it. 1105 01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:55,439 Speaker 1: I guess when I feel like when you try to 1106 01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:58,880 Speaker 1: learn another language and then like you're talking to like 1107 01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:04,080 Speaker 1: foreign people who are speaking English to you, you're like, oh, 1108 01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:08,320 Speaker 1: this person's actually pretty fucking good at English. 1109 01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:10,960 Speaker 3: They're all shy about it too, Right. 1110 01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:14,400 Speaker 1: Well, that's cool, man. I'm glad to hear that your 1111 01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:17,840 Speaker 1: life is glad to hear that you're not depressed and 1112 01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:19,000 Speaker 1: you're about to do a cool thing. 1113 01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:21,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm trying to do. 1114 01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:25,000 Speaker 2: But it's hard. 1115 01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:28,880 Speaker 3: I mean, like giving up like opportunities to like hang 1116 01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:31,240 Speaker 3: out with my dogs and stuff or like my family 1117 01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:32,960 Speaker 3: just to like jump ship. 1118 01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:39,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're right, you're twenty two, twenty four, twenty four. Yeah, 1119 01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:43,000 Speaker 1: but if yeah, I mean, but you know, life's for living. 1120 01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:47,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that last call was great for that. 1121 01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:54,640 Speaker 1: Well, brother, my friend, is there anything else you want 1122 01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:56,360 Speaker 1: to say to the people of the computer before we go. 1123 01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:03,120 Speaker 3: Get out there? And uh, actually we'll throw this out 1124 01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:08,040 Speaker 3: uh google the High Face. I grew up in that religion, 1125 01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:11,679 Speaker 3: the High One out there. Yeah, so it's a it's 1126 01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:15,920 Speaker 3: a religion that's like uh uh they believe in like 1127 01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:18,280 Speaker 3: the nine major religions, and I just want to put 1128 01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:21,720 Speaker 3: that word out there. Oh happy hankut to you. 1129 01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:25,360 Speaker 1: Oh thanks man. Wait, they just rolled all their religions 1130 01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:28,080 Speaker 1: up into one fucking ball and it's just the High Face. 1131 01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:28,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much. 1132 01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:34,360 Speaker 3: They were like uh talking about like how uh uh 1133 01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:37,559 Speaker 3: the Word of God goes through many different prophets, and 1134 01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:41,400 Speaker 3: like how every like country or like culture has like 1135 01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:44,760 Speaker 3: had a prophet, whether it's passed down orally or like 1136 01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:48,479 Speaker 3: traditionally through like writing and stuff. And it was a 1137 01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:50,320 Speaker 3: really really cool religion to grow up in. 1138 01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:55,040 Speaker 1: M hm, the hind Do you still believe? Do you 1139 01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:57,439 Speaker 1: still believe in? Do you still believe in the High Faith? 1140 01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:04,040 Speaker 3: I would say yes, I'm definitely surrounded by like a 1141 01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:08,600 Speaker 3: lot of people that aren't like, uh, you know, super religious, 1142 01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:14,720 Speaker 3: but I generally believe that, like it's important to like 1143 01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:17,320 Speaker 3: share your voice and like all the values that they 1144 01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:20,840 Speaker 3: like taught early on. I guess, so I don't know, 1145 01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:24,720 Speaker 3: Uh I, I don't know. We live in like a 1146 01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:30,120 Speaker 3: perfect world with like perfect conditions for everything. 1147 01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:32,439 Speaker 1: I don't know, do you really believe that. 1148 01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:38,320 Speaker 3: Kind of I mean, uh, if I kind of that, 1149 01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:40,639 Speaker 3: that's a bad answer. I should say yes or no, 1150 01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:45,719 Speaker 3: but yes, I don't know. Maybe I'm watching too many 1151 01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:52,599 Speaker 3: YouTube shorts with like those science guys saying, uh uh, 1152 01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:57,080 Speaker 3: can you believe the the I don't know. 1153 01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:00,240 Speaker 1: Well I will well hold on. I not to you 1154 01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:02,360 Speaker 1: lose faith in literally what you're just saying right now. 1155 01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:07,559 Speaker 1: But it's cool that your YouTube shorts algorithm is sending 1156 01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:11,920 Speaker 1: you videos about how the world is awesome and perfect 1157 01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:16,880 Speaker 1: because most I don't know if I'm probably not alone 1158 01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:19,240 Speaker 1: in this, but most of the internet content I get 1159 01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:22,479 Speaker 1: fed is about how the world is horrible and we're 1160 01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:25,040 Speaker 1: all going to die. 1161 01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:25,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1162 01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:28,840 Speaker 3: Man, I do watch a lot of car crash compilations. 1163 01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:35,439 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, you gotta balance it out, Yeah, Okay, I 1164 01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:37,639 Speaker 1: have one final question, why do you believe the world 1165 01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:38,840 Speaker 1: is perfect as it is? 1166 01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,160 Speaker 3: I guess I've been just living life on like easy 1167 01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:54,200 Speaker 3: mode and I haven't really been like traumatized or really. 1168 01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:58,639 Speaker 3: I mean, I've talked to other people about like trauma 1169 01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:03,080 Speaker 3: and stuff, but it's ever been at like, I don't know, 1170 01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:11,559 Speaker 3: my own personal experiences have been amazing, and I always 1171 01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:18,880 Speaker 3: try to look at like saying yes to like opportunities 1172 01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:22,200 Speaker 3: and those of like always because originally I didn't. I 1173 01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:24,519 Speaker 3: didn't say yes to like all the opportunities that were 1174 01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:33,240 Speaker 3: like presented to me, And I think, I don't know, 1175 01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:37,360 Speaker 3: I just I'm surrounded by amazing people and an amazing partner, 1176 01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:41,920 Speaker 3: good family that support me. I mean, I'm graduating debt 1177 01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:43,880 Speaker 3: free and I know a lot of people don't have 1178 01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:49,240 Speaker 3: that opportunity. But uh, I don't know, I just kind 1179 01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:51,560 Speaker 3: of live in like a pretty perfect world. 1180 01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:56,000 Speaker 1: I'm happy for you, man. Maybe it's the maybe the 1181 01:13:56,120 --> 01:14:01,439 Speaker 1: High Faith is Maybe the High Faith is what led 1182 01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:04,559 Speaker 1: you to this. Maybe. Yeah, this episode, everyone's gonna check 1183 01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:07,000 Speaker 1: out the High Faith, and they're going to check out 1184 01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:11,719 Speaker 1: that other website cool works, Yeah, cool works, cool Works, 1185 01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:12,559 Speaker 1: and the High Faith. 1186 01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:14,439 Speaker 3: Hey, you're gonna check it out too. 1187 01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:16,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna check outn check out both of those websites. 1188 01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:18,960 Speaker 1: I don't want to do. I don't want to do 1189 01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:20,200 Speaker 1: while I'm on the phone with you, because I think 1190 01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:24,679 Speaker 1: that would be rude. But that sounds like a good 1191 01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:26,559 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do both of those things 1192 01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:31,519 Speaker 1: as soon as I get off of recording this. What's 1193 01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:37,240 Speaker 1: your name again, it's Zach, Zach. Zach. Thanks for sharing 1194 01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:42,439 Speaker 1: your life with us on this podcast today. 1195 01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:43,559 Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Le. 1196 01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:45,679 Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the 1197 01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:47,080 Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go? 1198 01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:49,320 Speaker 3: I've said my words. 1199 01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:55,080 Speaker 1: I like that it's confident, UH make may all of 1200 01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:58,320 Speaker 1: the gods of the nine major religions bless you, and 1201 01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:03,200 Speaker 1: UH have a good rest of your life. 1202 01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:04,040 Speaker 3: Here you kill me? 1203 01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:05,080 Speaker 2: Bye? 1204 01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:11,960 Speaker 1: That was nice. That was really nice. Yeah. I also 1205 01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:14,599 Speaker 1: I thought about doing like English as a second language 1206 01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:18,879 Speaker 1: teaching shit too, But I always thought it was crazy 1207 01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:21,040 Speaker 1: that you don't have to, like, like, if you want 1208 01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:24,519 Speaker 1: to teach English to people who only speak Spanish, you 1209 01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:28,320 Speaker 1: don't even have to know Spanish. But like, if I 1210 01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:30,160 Speaker 1: was in high school and I had a Spanish teacher, 1211 01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:31,640 Speaker 1: I didn't speak English, I'd be like, what is this 1212 01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:35,720 Speaker 1: lady talk about, never goes on the line, taking your 1213 01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:39,479 Speaker 1: phone calls every night, Everything goes to and and I 1214 01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:39,680 Speaker 1: I was 1215 01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:42,120 Speaker 3: Teaching your cloud in the mean of your life that 1216 01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:45,000 Speaker 3: he's not really an expert.