1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to know your Foe on Colts dot Com and 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: in depth wook at the upcoming matchup. Here are your host, 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: Casey Valier and former Colts wide receiver Bill Brooks. Welcome 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: in to know your foe right here on Colts dot Com. 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: I am your host, Casey Valier, and I am joined 6 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: by Colts Ring of Honor wide receiver Bill Brooks, and 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: we are gearing up for an AFC South opponent in 8 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans. To help us dive into this matchup, 9 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,319 Speaker 1: we are joined by the legendary John McLean, who covers 10 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: the Texans for the Houston Chronicle. John, as always, thank 11 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: you so much for the time, not pleasure, thank you 12 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: for having me well. I want to start by getting 13 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: a little preview of what to expect this time around 14 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: at quarterback. Last time these two teams played, we saw 15 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: Davis Mills, the rookie. This time we're gonna see Tyrod Tail, 16 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 1: a little different guy in the backfield for the Texans. 17 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 1: In the two games that Taylor has come back from 18 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: injured reserve, he went down in the second quarter of 19 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: the second game at Cleveland, and Davis Mills, a rookie, 20 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: played before they warned him too. He was those six 21 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: as a starter, had one great game against the Patriots. 22 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: But Tyrd Taylor gives them mobility. He scored two touchdowns 23 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: rushing two weeks ago, two touchdown passing Sunday. They reached 24 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: a low point in a season of blows, blowing a 25 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: fourteen to three leading home to the Jets and losing 26 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: twenty one fourteen because after they started so well, the 27 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: Jets is totally shut down their offense. Taylor's nothing special. 28 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 1: He's got experience. It's in his eleventh year, but he's 29 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: a journeyman. Signed a one year contract. I assumed he'll 30 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: be signed with somebody else next year. But he is 31 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: better than Davis Mills because of his experience. But they're 32 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: healthy and wide receiver. Their offensive blind is terrible. It 33 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: doesn't matter who's played. They've got three starters out, but 34 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: even when the starters were in, they couldn't run the ball. 35 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: They're lasted rushing. Last season they were thirty first in rushing. 36 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: Not only are they last in rushing, the Guyston average 37 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: per carry it three point two yards too, fewer than 38 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: the Colts. I wrote a column today that the general 39 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: manager Nick Caserio has got to make finding a legitimate 40 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: running back in this offseason. And I said, they're running 41 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: back like Jonathan Taylor and the top five leading rushers 42 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Right now, we're all taken into second 43 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: round and the Texans have all their picks for the 44 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: first time since two thousand and nineteen. Well, that's a 45 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: good kind of point that I was going to go to. 46 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you mentioned this running group. It seems to 47 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: be a revolving door. It started out with Mark Ingram 48 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: than Philip Lindsay, both of them, they're no longer on 49 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: the roster. Now it's David Johnson and Rex burkehead. What 50 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: is going on there at that running back position. I 51 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: think they're trying to set a record for few yards 52 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: rushing nastry. It doesn't matter who they put out there. 53 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: They started off they had a stat their four running 54 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: backs had more seasons and more yards than any team 55 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: in the league. And they traded Ingram to the Saints, 56 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: and he was so happy because that's where he started 57 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: his career. They cut Lindsay. I ran a thing today 58 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: in my column. It's on our sports website, Texas sports 59 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: Nation dot com, listing all of Taylor's long runs and 60 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: he's got like seven longer than the longest Texans run 61 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: Texans evidently one run by a back of at least 62 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: twenty five yards. That was David Lindsay early in the season, 63 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 1: and he got a new zip code last week. So 64 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: it's hard on any quarterback, whether it's a veteran like 65 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor or a rookie like Davis Mills. If you 66 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: can't even have the semblance of a running game, I 67 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: think when they want to have play action here, defensive 68 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: players just laugh. Hey, John, you know you talk about 69 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:52,839 Speaker 1: the running game. But as we know, the running game 70 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: is also a function of the play of the offensive line, 71 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: and the Texans office line this year has struggled a 72 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: little bit with injuries and also with play. What can 73 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: they do the fixest problem or is this a problem 74 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: that they will wait until the office to fix and 75 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: make it a priority. They've tried everything. They go back 76 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: into two nineteen when Bill O'Brien traded for Laramie Tonsil 77 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: traded two ones or two for him and receiver Kenny Steeles, 78 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: and the Texans thought they were going to be low 79 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: number one picks, and the first year it was twenty seven. 80 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: Then the second year jumped up oops to fourth and 81 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: those things can happen, of course, and so we didn't 82 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 1: question the offensive line at all coming off the two 83 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: thousand nineteen season, and then all of a sudden last 84 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: year was bad. They changed players, schemes, coaches, and it's 85 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: bad this year. If you can't Tonsil, you know, they 86 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: trade two number ones for him. Their left guard usually 87 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: Max Sharping, was a second round pick. They signed Justin 88 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: Brett as a free agent after they let a Farmer's 89 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: second round pick, Nick Martin go. The right tackle, Titus 90 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: Howard was a number one pick. They moved him to 91 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,679 Speaker 1: left guard for a reason we can't figure out. And 92 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: so they've devoted draft choices, they've devoted free agent money, 93 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: and they still don't have it right. And there's been 94 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: such a turnover in the roster here, it's amazing. And 95 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: Nicssario got a six year contract to become the general manager, 96 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: total authority over the personnel department, and he has taken 97 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: this roster apart, and everybody understands it's a multi year rebuild. 98 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: And the position they thought they had solidified quarterback, they 99 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: were having to start over as not a great year 100 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: for quarterbacks, So I think they will use their number 101 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: one pick on a position player and probably let Davis 102 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: Mills play next year to see if they need to 103 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 1: target that position in two and twenty three. Now, a 104 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: position that they have some talent that I think is 105 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: that wide receiver. You know, you have Brandon Cooks as 106 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: a solid receiver and he's on pay used to have 107 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: another thousand yards receiving year. And the Texans also drafting 108 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: Nico Collins in the third round. Is he the answer 109 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: for the compliment white out? They were looking for him 110 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: and possibly the number one wide out in the future. 111 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: They had two positions of talent with talents here that's 112 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: wide receiver in the defensive line and at wide receiver. 113 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,799 Speaker 1: Nico Collins typical rookie opted out last year at Michigan. 114 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: He's had some eyes and lows. He got hurt mystery games, 115 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: but he's flashed. I wrote a column this week about 116 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: the performance of the draft pigs, and they had no 117 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: pick in the first two rounds. Bows well for nicks 118 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: Sario's second draft, when he will have nae pigs as 119 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: it stands now, including one that's going to be one, 120 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: two or three. And then we assume Watson will be 121 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: traded by then, and he'll have another one in a 122 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 1: two in this draft. And so it looks like, based 123 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: on what they've got this year, that he knows what 124 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: he's doing after spending his first twenty years head with 125 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: the Patriots and being Bill Belichick's right in man in 126 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: personnel the last thirteen years. And they've got Brandon Cooks. 127 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: There's a big discrepancy between his numbers and the next 128 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: wide out. It's the way it was when DeAndre Opkins 129 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: was here. They've got talent at that position, and Nico 130 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: Collins I believe next year will play opposite Cooks. Nanelle 131 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: has someone in the slot, and so that does mode 132 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: well for that position and any new quarterback they bring in. 133 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: We're joined by John McClean at the Houston Chronicle. I 134 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: wanted to flip over the defense. You mentioned this defensive 135 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: line as an area they do have talent, but it's 136 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: also something if you look at this defense so many years, 137 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: has been a huge strength this team with guys like 138 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: JJ Watt, Whitney, Merciless, Bernardrick McKinney, J Jun Clown. I mean, 139 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: you go on, it just keeps going, it seems, but 140 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: those eyes are all gone, and you mentioned that this 141 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: defensive line has some strength. Is this kind of the 142 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: core of the defense right now? Oh yeah. The left 143 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: end Jonathan Bernard, third round pick last year, didn't do 144 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: much moving from end to three to four outside linebacker. 145 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: He's played in eight games and he has eight sacks. 146 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: Been very disrupted. He's missed three because of injuries. And 147 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: their best free agent signing was maliek Collins, a left 148 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: tackle who's done really well. You don't see a lot 149 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: of sides, but the guys played done everything they want 150 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: and out their draft choices, they only had five. The 151 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: one that has contributed the quickest and the most is 152 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: Roy Lopez, the sixth round pick from Arizona. It's a 153 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: four man front, but the Lovey Smith coordinator puts him 154 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: on the nose and Pro Football Focus this week at 155 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: him as the second highest rated interior defensive lineman of 156 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: the eleven rookies playing getting a certain number of snaps, 157 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: and they're right in Jacob Martin as this first time 158 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 1: he's ever started as a fourth side should had a 159 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: second one against the Jets, but one was wiped out 160 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: because of the penalty, So they do have some pressure 161 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: coming off the edge when they're healthy to also have 162 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: a little They had a little depth and two guys 163 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: have been hurt, but they're starting four is pretty good 164 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: most of the time. They don't blitz much. Lovey Smith's defense, 165 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: it is what it is, you know. He rushes four, 166 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: he drops everybody. He plays a lot of his own 167 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: too deep coverage. Last year they had nine takeaways. That 168 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: is the second twist in the NFL since nineteen eighty. 169 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: This year they have twenty. I think they're fourth in 170 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: the league. I think they're fourth or fifth in interceptions, 171 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: so they've done a much better job at taking the 172 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 1: ball away. Eleven in the last three games, five against Miami, 173 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: five against Tennessee and they're upset in Nashville and only 174 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: one against the Jets. But they seem to finally settle 175 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 1: on a secondary But it's amazing how many players come 176 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: and go as they try to jockey to find the 177 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: right combination, which is interesting because most of them are 178 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: going to be gone next year. One of the things 179 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: I want to dive into. You mentioned the turnovers. I mean, 180 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: as they set fifth in current takeaways with twenty, and 181 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: you mentioned they had five in back to back weeks 182 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: against the Dolphins and the Titans. Do you think it's 183 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: been something they've done all year and they were just 184 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: able to counter on those or is it a little 185 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 1: inflated with the amount that they've had. Well, they did 186 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: a first time in franchise history. They had five twice 187 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: in a season. The team record is six. And they 188 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: also played Ryan Tannehill through four or seven since three 189 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter when the Titans were trying to 190 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: come back, and in Miami they went up against Kelby Brazil. 191 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: But they've done a good job of taking a ball 192 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: away since preseason and lovely Smith's philosophy, it's a lot 193 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: easier to get takeaways when you're looking at the ball 194 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 1: instead of the man. Now they'll play some man coverage, 195 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 1: but most of the time it's zone the Tampa two 196 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: where the linebacker drives back in the middle of the field. 197 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: But they ran thirty plays in man coverage against the 198 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: Titans that seemed to confuse Tannehill a time when they 199 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: needed to, but then they stunk it up. They played 200 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: well against Zach Wilson, the rookie quarterback. He wasn't the 201 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: reason they won that game. They totally shut him down 202 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 1: except for one touchdown rushing. It's just a Texans had 203 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 1: two hundred and two offense, two hundred and two yards 204 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: on offense, and they gave up five sacks. As a 205 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: second time, they gave up none against the Titans and 206 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: Titans got a great pass rush. They gave up five 207 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: agains of Dolphins five against the Jets, and I'm sure 208 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: they'll give up a lot for the Colts too. Now 209 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: this office, the Texans picked up Hill through free agency 210 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: and he's tied of team lead in tackles. What has 211 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: he meant to this loving Smith defense this year? Cam 212 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: Broge Hill has been their second best free agent signing. 213 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: That guy has done a terrific job. They signed him, 214 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: they put him in there. He makes some big plays, 215 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: is at an interception or two. He's had some breakups. 216 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: He is the defense has outplayed the offense, and if 217 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor had been a healthy all season, maybe the 218 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: offense would well. Of course it would have been better. 219 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: When Tyrod Taylor went out. They destroyed Jacksonville in the 220 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: first game. He played great. They are fourteen fourteen at 221 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: Cleveland at half time, and then they went straight down 222 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: to tubes in offense, but their defense made more big 223 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: plays than the offense. The offense you don't see them 224 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: throw the ball deep because they don't have time to 225 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: throw the ball deep because the offensive line is so bad. 226 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: And the Colts will see that. And I'm eager to 227 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: see if the Colts will do what the Jets and 228 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: the Dolphins did, just blitz the heck out of them. 229 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: And because a lot of times a lineman looked like 230 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: they have no clue what they're doing, and it's it's 231 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: It's one thing if you get a rookie center's never 232 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: played getting abused, but when you have veterans, it's excusable. Yeah, 233 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: I'm want to go to the coaching staff right now. 234 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: David Colley, this is his first year being a head 235 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: coach and the National Football League and he's been in 236 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: the Nation Football League for a while, but he's had to, 237 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 1: I guess, have some discipline issues as far as discipline 238 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: some of the players. What is his relationship with the 239 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: players right now as as a fresh year coach in 240 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: the National Football League, I'll say is about David Gulley, 241 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: twenty seven year NFL assistant and never been a coordinator, 242 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: had had worked with and he was highly recommended by 243 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: coaches he worked with like Andy Reid, John Harbaugh, Sean McDermott, 244 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: and so they knew what they were getting into. You know, 245 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: a lot of people think is he going to be 246 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: a one and done That would be grossly unfair based 247 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 1: on what they've stuck with stuck him with. He's one 248 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: of the finest people I've ever met in forty five 249 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: years covering the NFL. Is He's honest, and he has 250 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: rules and if you break the rules, you're going to 251 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 1: pay the price. And you can't have like Justin Reid, 252 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: he's one of their best players getting in arguments with 253 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: players and disrupting a team. Need he just team do 254 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: that because they're arguing about stuff. So he got bench 255 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: for the last game he'll be back for the Coats. 256 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: Is in the last year of his contract. I expect 257 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: him to be gone and then to get a compensed 258 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 1: story thick for him. But Curtly, I'll give you an example. 259 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,719 Speaker 1: At the end of the game in Tennessee. He grew 260 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: up two hours from Nashville. He played quarterback at Vanderbilt, 261 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: and he had family and friends at the game and 262 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: at the end, in the last minute, when it looked 263 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: like they were going to win the game. Players were 264 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: coming over, putting arms around him, hugging him, and so 265 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: I told the guy sitting next to me, look at 266 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: that shows you what they think about him. Already knew 267 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: what they thought about him, because everybody likes and respects it. 268 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: He made mistakes on game day, yes he does. There's 269 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: veteran coaches, as you guys know, they get a rep 270 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: for their play colleague, for their clot management, for their mismanagement. 271 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: But what Cully says when we asked him about it, 272 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: if I had it to do it over again, I 273 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: would have done And it's I think all of us 274 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: the first year we did something. Bill, whether you were playing, 275 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: were you as good as a rookie as you were 276 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: your second year? Of course not. And if you've been 277 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: stuck with some quarterbacks could barely throw the ball, would 278 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: that have benefited you? Of course not. And that's the 279 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: way we all are. You hope we're going to get 280 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: better than we are to start. And I believe Kelly 281 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: will get a second season because the McNair family here, 282 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: they have been very loyal to their coaches and general managers. 283 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: All right, John, final thing before we let you go, 284 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. We know he's been an active all seasons, 285 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: going to remain that way the rest of the way. 286 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: It looks like more than likely he's going to be 287 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: traded in March when the new league year rolls around. 288 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: Do you think that supposed asking price that's pretty high 289 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: is going to go down at all when that comes around. Well, 290 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: first of all, when they originally decided to trade him, 291 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: they tried everything they could talk him out of it, 292 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: and he said no. So Nick Necessario was asking three ones, 293 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: two twos, and a defensive starter, and eight teams were interested, 294 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: and then the ones that showed the most interest Miami, Philadelphia, Denver, 295 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: in Carolina. Only Philly made a legitimate offer, and Watson 296 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: rejected the Eagles. He has at no trade claws. He 297 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: told them I will only go to Miami, And they 298 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: got right up to the trading deadline and they had 299 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: a deal worked out for three ones at three and five, 300 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: and then the owner of Stephen Ross got cold feet, 301 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: and I don't blame him. He said, we want those 302 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: twenty two civil losses settled. And Watson had not done 303 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: that because he thought as an admission of guilt if 304 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: you settled, So he decided on Thursday before the Tuesday deadline. Okay, 305 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: we'll try, and they couldn't get all of them done, 306 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: and so now they're back to square one. If he 307 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: wants to be traded, he will settle those lawsuits. They 308 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: started taking depositions on his accusers this week. At some 309 00:16:56,280 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: point they're going to be taking his deposition for forty hours, 310 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: and I bet you at some point he's going to think, 311 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: why didn't I settle East sooner? And so nobody's going 312 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: to trade for him if he's got those losses still 313 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: hanging over his head for sexual misconduct and sexual assault. 314 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: And so the new league year begins on March sixteenth. 315 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: I think he'll be traded somewhere close to the deadline 316 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: and he find Miami. Who knows if they're going to 317 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 1: stick with two. Carolina needs a quarterback, Denver needs a quarterback. 318 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: He would reject Detroit. What I'm intrigued by as the 319 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: Giants do they give up from Daniel Jones after three years, 320 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: he certainly hasn't been worth sixth overall pick. They'll have 321 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: a new GM. Could Pittsburgh be interested in Seattle? There'll 322 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: be no short short. It would be a long list 323 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: to teams that need quarterbacks because there always is. And 324 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 1: he's a great quarterback, as the Colts found out last 325 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: year when almost beat him twelve absolutely except for fumbles 326 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: inside five yard lock Oh totally agree. I mean, if 327 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: you look at his year last year, he's probably an 328 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: MVP candidate. But the Texans only won four games. So 329 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: we definitely know the importance of the Shawn Watson as 330 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: a quarterback. And it's definitely a storyline we're gonna be 331 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,239 Speaker 1: watching over the next handful of months, and I'm sure 332 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna be covering very very closely as we get 333 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: around to the new league year. Will be and good 334 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: luck to Cults arrest of the season, and they can 335 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: I don't I think they will. Frank of course will 336 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 1: tell his players, hey, look at Tennessee, look what happened 337 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: to them. But they should be able to run on him. 338 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: I days up and interesting. Texans will last on the 339 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: league against the run, but they've only given up one 340 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: one hundred yard game and that was to Taylor, who 341 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 1: had six carries in the I mean six yards in 342 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 1: the first half and exploded with that eighty three yard run. 343 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: And so I expect Taylor will have his second one 344 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: hundred yard game. Well there you go. John McLean of 345 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 1: the Houston Chronicle, thank you so much for the time. 346 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 1: As always, John really appreciate it my pleasure. Guys, thank 347 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: you very much for having me in. Happy Holiday, Happy 348 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: hollos to you. John. The Cults are on the road 349 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: and Houston then at NRG Stadium for an AFC South 350 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: Division matchup against the Houston Texans on Sunday. The team 351 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 1: will have their bye week next week, so we won't 352 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: talk to you again until the following week when we 353 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: get a preview of the New England Patriots from Tom Curran. 354 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: But this Sunday, the Colts and the Texans in Houston 355 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: for Bill Brooks. I am Casey Valley. I enjoy the 356 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 1: game on Sunday and go Colts.