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Speaker 1: If you missed last episode, we were discussing the AFC

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Speaker 1: That's right, And I'm wearing one of my favorite shirts

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Speaker 2: My super outback?

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Speaker 1: So okay, I don't know from from the attire today,

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Speaker 3: Because I'm wearing glasses and making any hipsterses.

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Speaker 4: Flannel hoodie fucking aspiring writer that I don't know, like

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Speaker 1: we got a great show for you today. As oways,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna preview the AFC South. But before we get

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Speaker 1: to YouTube channel. So Eric said, I want to talk

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Speaker 1: Is there any universe where the Eagles actually are better

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Speaker 3: But a thing a J. Brown is not a spring chicken.

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Speaker 1: I feel like the Chiefs think that they're in that

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Speaker 1: turn our attention now to the AFC South. That's right.

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Speaker 1: When I think of the South, I think of Derek Brown,

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Speaker 1: you know, lovely accent, a twang of his. It's just

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Speaker 2: Sometime I think of danmar Jones, That's what I think of.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about first squad here. We're gona

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Speaker 1: One thing to keep in mind too, they only have

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Speaker 1: that impact your take on the Jaguars this year? That schedule.

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Speaker 2: I was just looking at the schedule. I think we

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Speaker 2: and I think that all matters. The other part about

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Speaker 1: There after that?

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Speaker 2: Dude, are we steering at a one in five team

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Speaker 2: Wo Man, that's rough, And does some of the luster

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Speaker 2: come off of Liam Cohen and all the Gladstone stuff

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what happens ericson is when you don't

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Speaker 1: I think that's one of the things you can point

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Speaker 3: back on my schedule release article. I know, Joe, you

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Speaker 3: this article. No idea, maybe say you should have read it,

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Speaker 3: because what I talked about in that article was that

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 3: So to your point, it was a cupcake schedule that

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Speaker 3: Acquiring Jacoby Myers was I think a big boost just

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Speaker 3: things I wouldn't note. And yeah, maybe it is a

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Speaker 1: I want you to know something, Andrew, I love you

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Speaker 1: very much. You're a dear friend of mine. So is

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Speaker 1: Derek Brown. I don't read his articles either. I just don't.

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Speaker 1: I'm too busy writing books instead of reading stuff. That's

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Speaker 1: what That's the thing. But look in all, it's just

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Speaker 3: Full disclosure for the people that are listening. Joe put

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Speaker 3: the Carolina Panthers on the show sheet for the because

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Speaker 3: I was.

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Speaker 1: Going one hundred miles an hour trying to get the

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Speaker 1: show ready. It's fine, you know I dogged you on

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Speaker 1: the show.

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Speaker 3: You could dog he's tired.

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Speaker 1: I'm just going Southern teams on my going through stuff,

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Speaker 1: the four more baseball shows I had to host yesterday.

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Speaker 2: The writer formerly known as Ericson pointed it out right now,

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Speaker 2: it's it's the ambulance, Joe.

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Speaker 3: You want to pick it out.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't.

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Speaker 2: They might be picking him up.

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Speaker 3: You know, he's old.

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Speaker 1: I wish they would take me, they would just take

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Speaker 1: so Ericson, talk to me about this Travis Hunter. This

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Speaker 1: offseason has been bizarre. We've gotten first of it was

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Speaker 1: we think maybe we do want to get him involved

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's probably what it looks like right now,

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Speaker 3: have to do with him. If you're going to try

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Speaker 3: they essentially get two players that can play both cornerback

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence excels Eric said, I feel like that's his

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Speaker 1: That was the Mac Jones project. That wasn't the Trevor

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Speaker 1: Now you've got a very crowded group of guys like

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Speaker 1: Hunter to do that. So should he just play corner

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Speaker 1: and focus on that?

435
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Speaker 2: He should just play corner? And it's a fools are

436
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Speaker 2: and to keep doing this back and forth everything. I mean,

437
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Speaker 2: the thing that I go back to is if Travis

438
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Speaker 2: Hunter becomes who he is meant to be, and he

439
00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:03,240
Speaker 2: is a top five to ten, top twelve corner in

440
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Speaker 2: the NFL, let's just say top twelve. If he becomes

441
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Speaker 2: a top twelve corner in the NFL, nobody's gonna freaking

442
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Speaker 2: care who the Jaguars traded or how much they traded

443
00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,280
Speaker 2: to get to get him. Nobody's gonna care about that.

444
00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,159
Speaker 2: If you keep doing this back and forth garbage. He

445
00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,920
Speaker 2: doesn't have enough time to sit here and practice both.

446
00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,919
Speaker 2: He's still unrefined as a wide receiver, never gonna hit

447
00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,040
Speaker 2: his ceiling. As a corner, He's not a true difference

448
00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:30,680
Speaker 2: maker or an all pro on either side of the ball. Yes,

449
00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,159
Speaker 2: he's gonna go down as ex I'm not saying a bust,

450
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Speaker 2: but the price they paid to get him, it's going

451
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Speaker 2: to look like a fool's errand they need to stop

452
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Speaker 2: this crap man. Like I've talked about this as Travis

453
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Speaker 2: Hunter as a prospect, it's like there's only so many

454
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Speaker 2: hours in the day that you have to work on

455
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Speaker 2: your craft. The guys that play on one side of

456
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Speaker 2: the ball that spent all of their effort focusing on

457
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Speaker 2: becoming the best version of themselves for that one position,

458
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Speaker 2: most of them still don't even like become like elite

459
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Speaker 2: players at their positions. So we're expecting Travis Hunter to

460
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Speaker 2: just buck that trend and be an outlier of outlier

461
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Speaker 2: of outliers. It's it's foolish to me, and honestly, considering

462
00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,680
Speaker 2: the foolishness here, it's kind of in line with what

463
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Speaker 2: Gladstone has done and continues to do.

464
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Speaker 1: Andrew, how many hours a week do you think Debro

465
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Speaker 1: loses to his craft by combing his beard for hours

466
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Speaker 1: on end. Oh, I would say at least three or

467
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Speaker 1: four hours in a week. He loses to combing his

468
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Speaker 1: beard where he could be working on his craft.

469
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Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you think you could be? You're doing

470
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Speaker 3: so many different things instead of combing your beard, like

471
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Speaker 3: reading Andrew Erickson's article.

472
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Speaker 2: Yeah, just staring in the and in the mirror, hoping

473
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Speaker 2: that I had a It's okay, you can be growing

474
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Speaker 2: hair on top of your head.

475
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Speaker 1: If he could, he would, If he could, he would,

476
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Speaker 1: he went there.

477
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Speaker 3: I was waiting for it.

478
00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 1: I was like, I know what I think. I think

479
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Speaker 1: in season or maybe in the playoffs, Deebro and I

480
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Speaker 1: instead of like the you know people do the playoff beer,

481
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Speaker 1: we should do the opposite.

482
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Speaker 2: Oh no, I don't want that.

483
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Speaker 1: I don't hilarious. Just to let it go until the

484
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Speaker 1: super Bowl and then we shave it again. Oh jesus,

485
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Speaker 1: to see what it looks like. I know, I know

486
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Speaker 1: what it will. Yeah, it's fine, it's the dead period. Anyway,

487
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 1: let's do it.

488
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Speaker 2: Oh could I have been a bad scientist. I don't

489
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 2: want it now.

490
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Speaker 1: I want to see it more. Super Bowl winner for

491
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars Odds in Vegas plus three thousand hard pass

492
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Speaker 1: Conference winner plus fifteen hundred hard pass from division winner

493
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Speaker 1: plus two thirty anyone, anyone, buel, no hard pass for

494
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Speaker 1: ers too okay to make the playoffs? Yes, plus one

495
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Speaker 1: oh five? No plus one ten.

496
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Speaker 2: I'll take the no side of that.

497
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Speaker 1: I kind of like the no side too. Ericson what

498
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Speaker 1: do you think?

499
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Speaker 3: I think? I mean, the AFC sund is always so

500
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Speaker 3: tough with these playoff teams because you don't as they

501
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 3: even have to put up a good record, and you

502
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 3: can somehow sneak in back where you're waiting to the playoffs.

503
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Speaker 3: So it's probably going to be a shy away for me.

504
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Speaker 1: All right. If you were to set the wind total,

505
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Speaker 1: what would it be for this team?

506
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Speaker 2: I bet it's way too high.

507
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Speaker 3: I think that wasn't the question second half of last year.

508
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Speaker 3: I could get a I'll say nine and a half.

509
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Speaker 2: I think it should be nine and a half. But

510
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Speaker 2: I get the feeling that Vegas has done it made

511
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Speaker 2: it ten and a half.

512
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Speaker 1: Nope, it is nine and a half. So you want

513
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Speaker 1: to go over for plus one twenty or under minus

514
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Speaker 1: one thirty. And if the minus is telling you minus

515
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Speaker 1: one thirty, then you definitely want to vote to know

516
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Speaker 1: on to make the playoffs.

517
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Speaker 2: Uh huh. Yeah.

518
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Speaker 1: That's like one of those things where it's like they're

519
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 1: telling you the story of you know, they give it

520
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,639
Speaker 1: the script out for the NFL every year, guys, everyone

521
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,399
Speaker 1: says it on Twitter, so they're telling you what's going

522
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Speaker 1: to happen.

523
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Speaker 2: So just listen script as they come back to earth.

524
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Speaker 2: This year, that massively.

525
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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about the Houston Texans, because they

526
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Speaker 1: think the Texans are all about c J. Stroud between

527
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Speaker 1: the ears this year. It's a confidence level. The confidence

528
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Speaker 1: definitely was shook at the end of the playoffs, and

529
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Speaker 1: rightfully so, like he faced some some pretty good defenses

530
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Speaker 1: there and he's you know, the offensive line was still

531
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Speaker 1: a very much work in progress. Now they have done,

532
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 1: you know, a lot to kind of remake that. How

533
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 1: good it is we could debate that here. But CJ.

534
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 1: Stroud definitely has had some issues. I believe that some

535
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Speaker 1: of them also stem from the lack of consistency at

536
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Speaker 1: the running back position, because I think when you have

537
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Speaker 1: that run game that you can count on, with some

538
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Speaker 1: balance and some better offensive line play, I think every

539
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Speaker 1: quarterback is a little bit more comfortable throwing the football

540
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Speaker 1: and be in the pocket. De Bro talk to me

541
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Speaker 1: about the Texans offensive line and the acquisition of David

542
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Speaker 1: Montgomery and how much that theoretically could help CJ. Stroud

543
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Speaker 1: get back on track for twenty twenty six. Because this

544
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Speaker 1: Texas defense is super Bowl caliber.

545
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Speaker 2: I absolutely agree with the defense super Bowl caliber, one

546
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 2: of the best in the Honestly, you can make the

547
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Speaker 2: argument that the best defense in the NFL, and one

548
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Speaker 2: good with what they've done with the offensive line, I

549
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Speaker 2: just I don't find myself loving anything that they've really

550
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Speaker 2: done outside of bringing in Braden Smith. Like ed Ingram

551
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 2: is okay, but not amazing. Wyatt Teller, there's reason the

552
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 2: Browns didn't retain him, the effectiveness, the health of this

553
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Speaker 2: part of his career. They drafted, They traded up for

554
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Speaker 2: Keelan Rutledge to play him at center, although that is

555
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 2: a position he has never played at all. But he's

556
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Speaker 2: just gonna magically morph into a center in his rookie

557
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 2: season in the NFL. Yeah, that seems like they're setting

558
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Speaker 2: him up to succeed. And then you talk about the

559
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 2: death behind him like Evan Brown passable at best. Trent

560
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 2: Brown is just a mountain of a man like he

561
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Speaker 2: gets it done because team like defensive ends had to

562
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Speaker 2: try to run around him, and so the offensive line

563
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Speaker 2: I'm not nearly as high on what they did this

564
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 2: offseason versus somebody like the Cleveland Browns. But going back

565
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Speaker 2: to it, I think that adding David Montgomery and giving

566
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Speaker 2: c J. Stroud a running game to one lean on,

567
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 2: two little help play action, and three it's gonna help

568
00:24:56,359 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 2: hide c J. Stroud to a certain amount is definitely plus.

569
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Speaker 2: I think David Montgomery still has juice and I think

570
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 2: he still can get it done. I'm actually very excited

571
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Speaker 2: to see him back into a workhorse feature role, and

572
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Speaker 2: I think that's what he's gonna get. I think this

573
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Speaker 2: is he's the new Joe Mixon in town. They're gonna

574
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Speaker 2: lean on him as much as he possibly can, like

575
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Speaker 2: he's gonna get three hundred plus touches. And if the

576
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Speaker 2: Texans do go to the Super Bowl this year, I

577
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Speaker 2: think it's more likely because of their defense and their

578
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Speaker 2: run game than it is because of anything c J.

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Speaker 1: Stroud does and Erickson. To me, it's like c J. Stroud, Hey,

580
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 1: don't make mistakes, go manage the game and play with

581
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Speaker 1: a little bit more confidence and let the defense cook.

582
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Speaker 1: To me, that's the special sauce here.

583
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Speaker 3: What do you think I think that makes sense? But

584
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Speaker 3: I do think that having CJ. Stroud look anything like

585
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 3: he did his rookie year is what puts the Texans

586
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl, right where if he can be

587
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 3: that guy and you're getting the defense as a top

588
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 3: five unit or the best defense in the NFL. Again,

589
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 3: the defense was winning games last year. I think this

590
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 3: is what they tried to do last year, and it

591
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 3: worked to an extent. He wasn't losing games for that.

592
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 3: I mean, they were good last year overall. But then

593
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,880
Speaker 3: things kind of unraveled when Moore was asked to put

594
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 3: on his plate. He was coming off with the concussion.

595
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 3: Scary injury, and especially when you're playing behind a patchwork

596
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 3: offensive line. The thing was Stroud that I was really

597
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 3: surprised at just looking back at the last three years

598
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 3: and going back to his rookie year where I'm thinking, man,

599
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 3: did this guy like ever have a good run game?

600
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Speaker 3: I'm like looking like last year rushing success right, last

601
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 3: two years ago like debt second last good? Yeah no,

602
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 3: and this rookiear again it was still like terrible. So

603
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 3: with this offensive line, can we at least get a

604
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Speaker 3: semblance of a run game where it's twentieth sixteenth, eighteenth

605
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 3: not we don't need a top ten run game here,

606
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 3: but just something to take the heat off of CJ.

607
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 3: Stroud so he can kind of develop a groove of

608
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 3: some of these receivers outside of Nico Collins, right, they're

609
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 3: trying out Christian kirk all year last year. Why like

610
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,479
Speaker 3: jayde Higgins is entering, He's a talented guy entering year too,

611
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 3: Jalen Nole entering year two. A lot of excitement with

612
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 3: some of these skilled players outside of Nico Collins, and

613
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 3: I think two with the offensive coroner coming back from

614
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 3: last year. Something that I would like to see more

615
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 3: of is these heavy tight end sets, like lean into it.

616
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 3: Their offensive coordinaer came from the Rams. Everyone is doing it.

617
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 3: They drafted Marlin Klein in the second round because hey,

618
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 3: he's a tight end. We have Dalton Schultz. Let's use

619
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 3: these heavy sets, get play action going for seeds. Droud

620
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 3: make it easy because we know that he can rip it.

621
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 3: We know that the upside he can offer and that

622
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 3: he can win in a shootout just hasn't shown it

623
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 3: the last couple of years, and they haven't been asked

624
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 3: to do that. But there are going to be times

625
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 3: where the Dexans defense can't shut out a team and

626
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 3: keep them below seventeen or twenty points. That happens in

627
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 3: the playoffs. I think he just droud has shown, at

628
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 3: least at the NFL level, he can be an elite passer,

629
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 3: but it's obviously been a few years since we have

630
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 3: seen it, and that does concern me that he has

631
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 3: taken a step back, he has regressed, and will we

632
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 3: ever see that guy again. I just I don't know

633
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 3: the answer to that. I want to believe he can

634
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 3: do it because he's so good as a rookie and

635
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 3: that's when you're expecting him to face the biggest challenges.

636
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 3: But maybe he kind of took, you know, bit off

637
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 3: too much that he could chew, and he was trying

638
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 3: to take too much of the offense. I think the

639
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 3: offenses really needs to be better around him, honestly, And

640
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 3: I think that's, you know, that's not a hot take.

641
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 2: I think he was sniffing his own hype too damn much,

642
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 2: man like everything coming out of his rookie season. Maybe

643
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 2: it was all these interviews and stuff, and he's talking

644
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 2: about he's one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL,

645
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 2: and and then he's giving it to believe that, right, Like,

646
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 2: that's fine, but yourself too, that's how you carry yourself too. Man.

647
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 1: Well you know that's also you know, not being on

648
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 1: your back.

649
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 3: One thing. One thing too, I want to note, and

650
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 3: it kind of gets forgotten. You're lost in the sauce.

651
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Speaker 3: Is losing Tank Dell? Like Tank Dell was c Strout's

652
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Speaker 3: and he.

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Speaker 1: Was an explosive playmaker.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, But but but the way that Stroud talked about

655
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Speaker 3: tank Dell when he would list off, like who are

656
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Speaker 3: the best wide receivers in the NFL? Like Stroud would

657
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Speaker 3: mention Tank Dell like I think they asked him on

658
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Speaker 3: one of his interviews where it's like, okay, you have

659
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Speaker 3: your optimal lineup. Who you're putting on X you putting

660
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Speaker 3: that is who you're putting in the slot. And Tank

661
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Speaker 3: Dell was the slot receiver. He lists it off.

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Speaker 1: Your friends. I'm sure if you asked, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: who's your favorite host, you'd say me? But really you'd

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Speaker 1: rather be working with Rich Eisen. I think that's obvious.

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Speaker 3: No, But I don't think that he mentioned Nico Collins

666
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Speaker 3: as like his main He was like, no, I want

667
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Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson, I want Jamar Chase and I want Tanked

668
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Speaker 3: Dell was like, okay, but and obviously Tank Dell's career

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Speaker 3: has been derailed by brutal injuries. But I mean, you

670
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Speaker 3: lose your guy, I think that also has a big

671
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Speaker 3: impact on you.

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Speaker 1: This is a saying made Oh go ahead.

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Speaker 2: I'm no fan of Nick Kayley. I don't care that

674
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Speaker 2: he's back. I think he's one of the worst offensive

675
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 2: coordinators in the entire NFL. The fact that they trotted

676
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Speaker 2: out Xavier Hutchinson last year you talked about like losing

677
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Speaker 2: Tank Dell, Well, that's also magnified when you're trotting out

678
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Speaker 2: Christian Kirk and Xavier Hutchinson over too talented rookies for

679
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Speaker 2: most of the year. And even when Jane Higgins is

680
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Speaker 2: flashing and he's showing you he deserves more playing time,

681
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 2: you should give him more playing time. You should be

682
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Speaker 2: utilizing Jalen Nolmore. He didn't do it and it's fine,

683
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Speaker 2: was that though?

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Speaker 3: Or is that Dimigo Ryans like he's the head coach.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, right, I think sticks to the defensive side.

686
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Speaker 1: I don't think he really.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you're the head coach, you're like, dude,

688
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Speaker 3: these records are him on the field, Like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you can, but I mean, or you

690
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Speaker 2: leave it, leave him in the sandbox to play with

691
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Speaker 2: the offense and you stick to the defense.

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Speaker 1: Who know, there's there's a lot being made to the

693
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: quote unquote cold weather crucibles that they got to go through.

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Speaker 1: Here at the end, we're in December on the road.

695
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Speaker 1: They played the Steelers in Pittsburgh, the Commanders and the

696
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Speaker 1: Eagles on the East Coast in December, and then the

697
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers on one four in January, where you

698
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Speaker 1: assume Michael Parson is going to be back by then.

699
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Speaker 1: To me, defense travels. So I really don't care about this.

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Speaker 1: I think it's overblown. Do you all agree?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's overblown. That's just I think it's garbage, to

702
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Speaker 2: be honest.

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Speaker 3: Well, I do think it sucks for like the fantasy

704
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 3: outcomes for the Texans players because these games are not

705
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 3: going to be scoring.

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Speaker 1: So that.

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Speaker 2: My whole thing is, like, it's cold that time of

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Speaker 2: the year. Everybody's gonna be playing in cold unless they're

709
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Speaker 2: playing in freaking domes. So whatever does all right, Elis.

710
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 3: Is playing in domes in weeks fifteen, sixteen seventeen. They're

711
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Speaker 3: not going out.

712
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Speaker 2: How about the count very interesting.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna wear my Jerry Jones shirt on the NFC

714
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Speaker 1: East when we get to that show.

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Speaker 2: I know, all right, should never take it off.

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Speaker 1: Super That's why I have the tattoo Jerry Jones. It's

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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones tramp stamp, that's right.

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Speaker 2: Which were his eyes looking Joe?

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Speaker 1: But free agents entered this portal. Alright?

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Speaker 3: Oh my, alright?

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl winner for the Texans plus two thousand. I'm

722
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Speaker 1: kind of curious about this one.

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Speaker 3: Now. I know I can't roll them out because the

724
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Speaker 3: defense is.

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Speaker 1: Room because the defense is so good too. And here's

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Speaker 1: what I think, Andrew. At the very least, this makes

727
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Speaker 1: money as an investment in a cash out later on.

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Speaker 1: That's how I At some point that's gonna be five

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Speaker 1: to one, and they might be like, oh, here's sixty

730
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Speaker 1: percent of that bet back, and yes, I'll take that

731
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Speaker 1: very much, because that's how I play the futures.

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Speaker 3: Mark, what did the Texans play early in the year, Like,

733
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Speaker 3: what's their.

734
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Speaker 1: Early in the year is not nearly as bad early

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Speaker 1: in the year. It's well, they start off with Buffalo

736
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Speaker 1: and then they got the Bengals, the Colts, the Cowboys, Titans, Jags, Giant, Titans, Jags, Giants.

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Speaker 1: That's where you start to you know, you go on

738
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Speaker 1: a little bit of a run there, I think, and

739
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Speaker 1: then you hit your bye week and after the bye

740
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: week they get the Chargers, Browns, Colts. Again, it's not

741
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Speaker 1: the easiest schedule, but again AFC isn't a very either

742
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Speaker 1: conference winner. Plus one thousand, Okay, intrigued. I'm still intrigued

743
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Speaker 1: by that one division winner plus one forty Yes, no,

744
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: like I think this is a good wager to make

745
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Yes, minus one fifty five, No, plus one forty.

746
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: So obviously this they're going to be a playoff team,

747
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: if you know, unless Stroud completely implodes. But I don't

748
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: think is gonna happen. Win total, What do you think

749
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: it is? Boys? What do you think it is?

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Speaker 3: What's so? Jags was nine and it's probably go Jags

751
00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 3: nine and a half. It's probably gonna be nine and

752
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 3: a half, two nine and a half or ten and

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Speaker 3: a half.

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Speaker 1: That is correct, it's nine and a half. Again, No,

755
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Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. The over minus one ten, the under

756
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Speaker 1: plus one ten. So they're telling you they think that

757
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: the Texans are the edge here for this division, which

758
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Speaker 1: means instead of betting that, give me, you know, division

759
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Speaker 1: winner plus one forty, that's your best odds. See. Look

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Speaker 1: that's how you play this game. Kids. See you look

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Speaker 1: at that and it's telling you, oh, they think they're

762
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Speaker 1: a little better than Jaguars. Okay, Vegas. If you think

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Speaker 1: they're gonna win that division, just instead of betting that,

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Speaker 1: to talk about. It's the Colts. I know we've been

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Speaker 1: waiting for this for a long time. Baby. Let's talk

795
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Speaker 1: about the Indianapolis Colts, which I don't know why it's

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Speaker 1: all in red. I don't know who did that. I

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Speaker 1: don't think I did that.

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Speaker 2: But whatever, I did that whenever you were supposed to

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Speaker 2: take out the Panthers. But apparently I.

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Speaker 1: Told you I was just rushing a million Alley John

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Speaker 1: Wait wait no, Instead it would have been a positive

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Speaker 1: for you would have a show without Daniel Jones discussion.

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00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 2: I mean, every show has a Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 3: So let's suspen it a different. Let's not talk about

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Speaker 3: Danie Jones.

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00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,439
Speaker 1: I don't want talk about I want to talk about

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00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: Jamon Taylor. Talk about j Taylor. Yes, yes, yes, let's

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Speaker 1: let's stop it. Good, Yeah, Okay. Jonathan Taylor great year

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00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,919
Speaker 1: last year, it's been a while, is that a great

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00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: healthy season? In between, it's been ankle injury, ankle injury,

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Speaker 1: ankle injury. Right, so it's been a couple of years

812
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Speaker 1: of that. So ericson, where are you here with Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Taylor going to the season, Because especially with Daniel Jones

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Speaker 1: coming back from all the surgeries and issues in hell stuff,

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Speaker 1: it does feel like at least early on you have

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00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,439
Speaker 1: got to lean on Jonathan Taylor. Is that too much

817
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: to ask of Jonathan Taylor that early? And are you

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Speaker 1: going to ruin him by the time the year is

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Speaker 1: halfway through.

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Speaker 3: I think that's possible that he might wear down as

821
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 3: the season progresses. But if you're Shane Steichen, dude, that's

822
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 3: what I'm trusting this offense and with Jonathan Tolder because

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00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 3: you have so many of these projections.

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00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: Right.

825
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 3: I don't mean to he who must not be named

826
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Speaker 3: is coming off of achilles injury.

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Speaker 1: But there are other Voldemort Daniel Jones picture, please, producers,

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Speaker 1: I want I want Daniel Jones as Baltimore with that

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Speaker 1: weird nose.

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Speaker 3: That's like, yeah, look, there are other parts of this

831
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 3: Colts offense that also are projections. Alic Pierce, you're not

832
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 3: gonna be wide receiver one. Can you deliver on that?

833
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 3: Maybe he can, maybe he can't. Like, that's a projection.

834
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Speaker 3: You have a new right tackle that's going to be

835
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Speaker 3: in because Brad Smith left the Colts is now with

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Speaker 3: the Houston Texans. Okay, another starting tackle. How is he

837
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 3: going to perform? I think that this offense overall is

838
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 3: more likely to be average than the top five unit

839
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Speaker 3: that was last year, where again two thousand and seven

840
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 3: Patriots esque. That's not repeatable. That offense regressed the following

841
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Speaker 3: year because Brady got hurt, but again, it was going

842
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 3: to regress no matter what. So those are things that

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00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 3: I'm looking at beyond the quarterback, where if you're psyching,

844
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 3: you have to feed Jonathan Taylor as much as humanly

845
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 3: possible because that's going to get you two wins on

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00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 3: the offensive side of the football, while Daniel Jones starts

847
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 3: to come back from his interest because at some point,

848
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 3: like he will be much more healthy than he is

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Speaker 3: in weak. I mean, I think he'll probably looking much

850
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,439
Speaker 3: better in week ten than he does in Week one

851
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 3: again fresh off again. He's also fractured his leg last

852
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 3: year too, and he was playing on which is why

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00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 3: he tore his achilles. So that's kind of how I'm

854
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 3: reading this offense where there are other question marks I have.

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00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 3: Of Okay, you could see if these guys do step

856
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 3: up into new roles, they smash. But I think it's

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00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor or bust early in the year for this

858
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 3: Colts offense.

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00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 1: The quarterback that lived come to t bro Oh good,

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00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: Harry Potter jokes aside. I don't think Alec Pierce is

861
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: the number one target in this offense. I think Tyler

862
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: Warren is hot taker. Now. No, I think Warren is

863
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: a superb talent, and I don't think he gets talked

864
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: about enough because we're in this golden age of tight ends.

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Speaker 3: He's not Colston Owyn.

866
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: Well, that's tough. Not everyone can be.

867
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 3: But no, no, I agree Tolly. Warren is also very

868
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 3: very good.

869
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 2: I I I don't disagree with you, Joe, and and

870
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,240
Speaker 2: I think to that, to that point, this passing attack

871
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 2: scares the crap out of me. Man like Josh Downs

872
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 2: has been banged up over multiple seasons. Is he going

873
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 2: to be an outside wide receiver? How is that going

874
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 2: to go? If he misses any time? Then you're boiling

875
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 2: this down to Alec Pearce, who is an unknown as

876
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,720
Speaker 2: a true wide receiver one for an offense, and Tyler Warren,

877
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 2: And then we get into Nick Westbrook, Akine, Ashton Doolan,

878
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 2: Dion Burks, Anthony gold Lakwan Treadwell. Yes, he's still in

879
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 2: the NFL. Cole Coleman Owen.

880
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 3: Did you mention I did you?

881
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 2: I didn't mentions?

882
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: Yeah?

883
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, seventh round pick. Gotta mention him. He's

884
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 2: a game changer. But that this all comes down to,

885
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 2: there is so much influx with this team on the

886
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 2: offensive side of the ball, that it's insane and quarterback health.

887
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 2: What are you getting out the passing attack? Alec Peers,

888
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 2: Tyler Warren dealing with you know, getting pushed despite all

889
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 2: that you.

890
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: Do, Look, this was one of the many faults of

891
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: a lot of teams.

892
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 3: You do.

893
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: Like, I still think the Colts have a top ten

894
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: offensive line, don't you.

895
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:20,479
Speaker 3: Start does They're starting Jalen Travis as a fourth round

896
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 3: rookie pick, so he's their new starting right tackle. So

897
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 3: like that's one thing that I think matters, Like having

898
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 3: a different right tack does, I think is one thing. Again,

899
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 3: I don't think that it's this is a team that

900
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 3: bottoms out on offense. Look at Shane Styke in the

901
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 3: last three years eight nine eight nine nine eight, like

902
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 3: like they're kind of kind of be they're kind of

903
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 3: doing thel And.

904
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: That was when Gardner Minshew. That was with Anthony Richardson,

905
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 1: that was with Philip Rivers, that was with Daniel Jones.

906
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: I mean Shane Stike and I think deserves a little

907
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: bit of love. Yes, you know, I mean that's a

908
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,720
Speaker 1: good football coach. This guy at real quarterback.

909
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 3: Please, now he's got to overcome the other another injury

910
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 3: to his quarterback, and that.

911
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:56,760
Speaker 2: A real quarterback.

912
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 3: Though.

913
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: I realized something that the Boldemort title for Daniel Jones

914
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: is really applicable because it is he. He is coming back,

915
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: you know, from the dead, basically reformed, remade right. A

916
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 1: lot of magical spells going on there, and uh makes

917
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 1: them very dangerous, very dangerous.

918
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 3: You know.

919
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: I think we should have that dark mark on our

920
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: arm too, so whenever we call upon him, he can

921
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: show up on the podcast. I think that'd be great.

922
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 3: I'm gonna need You're gonna need a rain check on

923
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 3: that because I burned my arm on the in the

924
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 3: oven yesterday.

925
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 1: Baking your sour dough.

926
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 3: Joe.

927
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 1: I never.

928
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 3: I have no idea why you assume that or I.

929
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: Just threw it out there yesterday is like a thing.

930
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 1: But now now you burned your arms suspiciously and we

931
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,760
Speaker 1: don't know why or how. Uh what about the defense

932
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: of the Colts? Can we talk about that for a second,

933
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 1: because offensive is all we focused on?

934
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 3: Defense?

935
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 1: De Bro, talk to me about the defense of the Colts.

936
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: What do you think it looks like this year?

937
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 2: I think there, I think they're a really good unit

938
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 2: with the ability to be a very strong defense. Now

939
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say like they're gonna be a

940
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,439
Speaker 2: top five unit. I think their pass rush is good,

941
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 2: but I don't know if they have the parts of

942
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 2: pieces well they ought to lat to, like can he

943
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 2: take another step? JT? There? Like their defensive line is

944
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 2: very good, I just question what is the absolute ceiling

945
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 2: of their pass rush? Like, I don't look at this

946
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 2: unit as saying like this is a top five pass

947
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 2: rush in the NFL. I think the biggest thing for

948
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 2: them is what does the secondary look like and how

949
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 2: does that come together? Because if Tarvarius Ward can actually

950
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 2: stay healthy, same thing with Sauce Gardner, that tandem can

951
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 2: be one of the best in the NFL and that

952
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 2: can help their pass rush get home. The addition to

953
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 2: CJ Allen I thought was fantastic considering their linebacker room

954
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 2: in the offseason. So I think this defense could be

955
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 2: a top twelve unit, But I don't think that they'll

956
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 2: step into rare fight air as an elite unit unless

957
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 2: their corners just all really OutKick even what I think

958
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 2: they can do.

959
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: All right, super Bowl winner plus sixty five hundred, you

960
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 1: can miss me with that conference winn plus two do

961
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: you get hundred? You can miss me with that division

962
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: winner plus four hundred? Interesting long shot because it is

963
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 1: so tight, it is so close, but you can also

964
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: miss me with that too. I'd rather bet on the tech.

965
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: I'm always betten on defense. I'm a defense guy, okay,

966
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 1: me and Bogs, and we like the defense. That's what

967
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: we like around these pars. Uh to make the playoffs.

968
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,959
Speaker 1: Plus one seventy, Yes, that's a lot. That's a great number.

969
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: Minus one seventy No, what side do you want to

970
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: be on to that? Ericson?

971
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 3: I want to be on no, because I know these

972
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 3: odds are going to shift after the I mean, the

973
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 3: first three weeks they play the Ravens, Chiefs and Texans,

974
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 3: like if you're getting getting and if you're getting Jones

975
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 3: at less than hundred percent, and Jonathan Taylor can't eke

976
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 3: out wins even though he's touched the ball thirty times

977
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 3: a game, and they're losing to those teams like, I mean,

978
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 3: if you look at those Raven Chiefs, Texans, like, those

979
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 3: are all good defenses. I think this team, to Deebro's

980
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 3: point and get to mention, I think that this defense

981
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 3: is also pretty good. I think they're probably average at worst,

982
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 3: but remember who do they go after Last year they

983
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 3: traded for Sastgardner, Like he has to be top five.

984
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 3: I've locked and loaded number one corner back in the

985
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,959
Speaker 3: NFL to really Yeah, exactly, So I think that puts

986
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 3: them into that top ten and maybe their defense has

987
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 3: to carry them while the offense kind of gets back

988
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 3: up to speed with the injury to their quarterback. And

989
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 3: I think that's possible with Gardner. I do think that

990
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 3: because they've also had issues too with some of their

991
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 3: defensive tackles, were like DeForest Buckner when he's missed time

992
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 3: in the past, like their run defense just gets eviscerated.

993
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 3: Grover Stewart. Those guys are a little bit older, so

994
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 3: but I think secondary wise to Various Ward, they really

995
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 3: could have an elite tandem.

996
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 2: Dude that they have to stay healthy though, because behind

997
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 2: them the depth is is not great. They have Jonathan Edwards,

998
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 2: Cam Taylor, Britt Whitt Eckler, McKay Blackmore. Yeah, they healthy.

999
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: What would you set the win total ad for this team?

1000
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 3: I feel like all these teams are going to be

1001
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 3: I think eight and a half would be. I think

1002
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 3: it's less for them.

1003
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's eight and a half and I'm

1004
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 2: taking the under.

1005
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 3: Yes, all right, all right, so there you go. Is

1006
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 3: it eight and a half?

1007
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:05,919
Speaker 2: What is it? Yeah?

1008
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 1: Well it's an and a half in eight and a

1009
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: half the best line you can get on Betting Pros

1010
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: right now, and the show's on Betting Pros today as

1011
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: well as the regular podcast feed everywhere. Over seven and

1012
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 1: a half at minus one thirty under eight and a

1013
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: half at minus one forty five. So to me, that's

1014
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: basically telling everybody like, we have no idea. All we

1015
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 1: know is we're covering our ass either way. That's when

1016
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 1: the Colts aren't making the playoffs, Vegas is covering their

1017
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: ass and they're like, you know what, We're just not

1018
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: a big fan of this. It's it's it screams unknown.

1019
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 1: And I think that's something I'd.

1020
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 2: Be very curious. What are the odds of them finishing

1021
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 2: last in their division?

1022
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, that I'd have to find it. I don't know

1023
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 1: that that's the specifics there. Let's talk about the Tennessee

1024
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: Titans with the most attractive coaching room in the.

1025
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 2: Histories coaching staff of the NFL. Baby Beautiful.

1026
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: My older brother Robert sala is back here, and I'm

1027
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: very happy for Robert sala again. I think he's a

1028
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: really good football guy. I think this is a really

1029
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: fun team here. Potentially, I think they're gonna be disruptors.

1030
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be annoying. I think they're gonna

1031
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: have there's gonna be a couple of weeks where we're

1032
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: gonna sit here on the show and we're gonna go

1033
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: can you believe with the Titans pulled off? I think

1034
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: they're gonna do that. I don't know if it's gonna

1035
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: been right away, but I'm very intrigued by this team.

1036
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 1: So let's talk about what the impact of Robert sala

1037
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: is going to be. Debro I'm gonna start with you

1038
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: here because you're bald like me, and so is Robert Salah.

1039
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 2: Yes, I had to take the hat off just for

1040
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 2: this team, that's right. I think they can make some

1041
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 2: noise at the gate. Like you look at the beginning

1042
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 2: of their schedule, they got the Jets, the Eagles, the Giants,

1043
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 2: the Ravens. I mean, if they start off two and

1044
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 2: two in those first four games, people will be talking

1045
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 2: about them. And if they're competitive against the Eagles and

1046
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,439
Speaker 2: the Ravens in those games. People will be talking about

1047
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 2: this team if they've managed to knock off the Eagles

1048
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 2: or the Ravens in one of those games. Yeah, you're

1049
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 2: looking at a team that could be three and one possible.

1050
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 2: I agree with you, Joe. I think they're gonna make

1051
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 2: some noise this year. Now, Like I don't think that,

1052
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 2: you know, saying that they're gonna win the division and

1053
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 2: go to the playoffs and that kind of stuff, like

1054
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 2: we shall see, depending on the odds that we get

1055
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 2: to later. I might not be against betting that, but

1056
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 2: I think adding Robert Sala, adding Brian Daball, like, say

1057
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 2: what you want about Brian Dable as a head coach,

1058
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,240
Speaker 2: as an offensive coordinator, and what he did with Jackson

1059
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 2: Dart last year, I think it is very commendable. Now,

1060
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 2: they didn't end up like closing out a lot of games,

1061
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 2: but if they wouldn't have fallen apart in the fourth

1062
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 2: quarter of a ton of games, Brian Daball would not

1063
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 2: be the offensive coordinator of the Tennessee Titans. He'd still

1064
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 2: be coaching the Giants right now. So I like that

1065
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 2: his addition with cam Ward, the fact that they put

1066
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 2: offensive weapons around cam Ward and said, hey, we want

1067
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 2: you to succeed Tony Pollard's good enough to see her

1068
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 2: and hold up the running attack. You know, if they

1069
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 2: get anything out of Tajy Spears, Nick Singleton, kudos, but

1070
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 2: putting more weapons around cam Ward like he has a

1071
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,720
Speaker 2: legitimate like you could put that starting three with Carnell,

1072
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 2: take Calvin Ridley and Wandel Robinson up against a ton

1073
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 2: of teams. And I'm not saying it's the best starting

1074
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 2: trio in the NFL. Ay bad boys ain't bad at all,

1075
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 2: you know what.

1076
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 1: I like that Despite he's a defensive mind a head coach,

1077
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: the organization is paying attention to the fact that it's

1078
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: an offensive league, and a lot of the the off

1079
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: season was spent Andrew between the draft and what they've

1080
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: brought in here. You know, bringing in Brian Dable, who's

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Speaker 1: got a nice track record, is a good offensive mine

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Speaker 1: in the NFL that they're paying attention to. You have

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Speaker 1: to develop this young quarterback, and you were stunting his

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00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: growth with the last regime, the Manue. You got rid

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Speaker 1: of them, things started to get a little bit better

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00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: and which you really wanted to see a big jump

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Speaker 1: in year two. So That's that's why I'm so cautiously optimistic.

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Speaker 1: Is like, I feel like they're gonna have the defensive mindset,

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00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: but the organization was looking towards improving the offense, which

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Speaker 1: was really important.

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Speaker 3: Times are gona put the whole league on notice after

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Speaker 3: Week one when they killed the Jets. So I am

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Speaker 3: I am all aboard the Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: I want what's that? What's the game?

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Speaker 3: We talked about this.

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Speaker 2: ONNUS three and a half.

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Speaker 3: I think it was half no because it's playing in Nashville.

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Speaker 3: But I think that that's going to be a launch

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Speaker 3: point for this team. Robertsoff facing his old team that

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Speaker 3: he coached for. I think that this is the Cameore

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00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 3: breakout party. I love the Tennessee Titans. I want to

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00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 3: bet them to win the division because we see this

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00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 3: every single year where one team goes from last place

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00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 3: to first place. And the Tennessee Titans have all of

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00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 3: the ingredients of that type of team where you have

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00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 3: a second year quarterback taking a major leap, you have

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00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 3: him paired with a successful offensive mind in Brian Daball.

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Speaker 3: You have Robert Salad who shown that he can win

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00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 3: games with bad quarterbacks. Then talking about Shane Steiken. This

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00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 3: guy got seven wins with Zach Wilson, Mike White, and

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Speaker 3: Joe Flacco in twenty twenty two and from the top

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Speaker 3: five defense with Zach Wilson and Trevor Simeon in twenty

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00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 3: twenty three as his quarterbacks. Again seven wins both of those.

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Speaker 2: That's not enough, though, ericson Johnson.

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00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 3: It's one of these things where I think that you

1116
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,919
Speaker 3: have to and he's have a player like does something

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00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 3: with the Jets and then does something like and then

1118
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 3: removes himself from that situation. It's like, Wow, it really

1119
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 3: is not bad when you're not on the New York

1120
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 3: Jets anymore. So you know what I like it too.

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Speaker 1: You know when the people were out in the game

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00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: where you've seen on the walks with the weighted vest,

1123
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,439
Speaker 1: you know, and then he taken off here, I feel

1124
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: so much lighter. That's what it's like.

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Speaker 3: And all the defensive additions they made John Fickly Myers,

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Speaker 3: Jermain Johnson, Anthony Hill, Alante Taylor, Cordell Flott, Josh will Williams,

1127
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 3: Keatrick falk I.

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Speaker 2: Adding half the giant step charge and.

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Speaker 3: They and they added I think they added the good

1130
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 3: pieces from the Jets that worked with Sala. They added

1131
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 3: the good pieces from Day Balls Giants. So you mix

1132
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 3: this all together and I think you got a division

1133
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 3: winner here. I know Deebro was waxing poetic about the weapons.

1134
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 3: It's not even just about the weapons, it's about the

1135
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 3: comparison to the weapons. Last year he was throwing two

1136
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,959
Speaker 3: rookie Day three picks as his two wide receivers because

1137
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,919
Speaker 3: Calvin really got hurt and honestly, like she married DK,

1138
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 3: like he flashed, and I think that is telling about

1139
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 3: cam Ward, who one of the guys, he's one of

1140
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 3: the core, is going to be on the Netflix Quarterback

1141
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 3: documentary this year. I'm so amped to watch out with

1142
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 3: Camore because it's gonna be him in All Ball. It's like, okay,

1143
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 3: well what are you gonna do today? I'm gonna watch

1144
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 3: film play football and the end that's it. Like I

1145
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 3: really feel like that's all he's going to do. And

1146
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 3: I think that's gonna show this season when he has

1147
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 3: a breakout and just getting him away from Callahan what

1148
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 3: the offensive setup was last year, last seven games, eleven touchdowns,

1149
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 3: won an new ension, Like he showed that.

1150
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: He was grew absolutely and he and he shows the work.

1151
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: I think there are things when you watch Kim Ward

1152
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: tape from college that you go, Okay, there's some stuff

1153
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: to fix there. You could see, you could see the

1154
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: skill level, you could see that there's something to work with.

1155
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: But I think, to me, the cam Ward story in

1156
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: the NFL is going to be one of the great

1157
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: stories of this is a worker. This is a guy

1158
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 1: that's gonna outwork everybody else and he's gonna make up

1159
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,760
Speaker 1: some of those physical deficits that he might have compared

1160
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: to some other quarterbacks who could just do things easier

1161
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: than he does them. But he'll be able to actually

1162
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,479
Speaker 1: make more progress than some of those other quarterback because

1163
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: of his mindset and the work mentality. And I think

1164
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: that is going to be the separator for him.

1165
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 3: You know.

1166
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: It's like like Derek Jeter. Okay, Derek Jeter was was

1167
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: never the most talented short stop of his era. He

1168
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: kind of just outworked everybody, and he had deficits on defense,

1169
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: he had deficits all that, but he has three thousand

1170
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 1: insities in the Hall of Fame, right Like That's the

1171
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: kind of thing. And I'm not saying, like, you know,

1172
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 1: cam Ward's in the Hall of Fame yet, and I

1173
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: want to put him there, but I'm saying it's like

1174
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: that kind of mentality. It was like, well, you know,

1175
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 1: Derek Jeter wasn't thirty five on runs every year, but

1176
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: Derek Jeter was a winner. And I think that's what

1177
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 1: cam Ward is. And I think that's going to rub off.

1178
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: And I think that combination of cam Ward with Robert

1179
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 1: sala is going to be a really fascinating one. So

1180
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: let's get to some of the numbers here on the titles.

1181
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 2: Before we dive into that. Sure, Ericson brought up one

1182
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 2: really good point that I want to expand on just

1183
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 2: a little bit. Sure Brian Callahan's system with a West

1184
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 2: Coast offense and adding asking cam Ward to play within

1185
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 2: structure and go from one to two to three and

1186
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 2: get the ball out timely. That is a horrible marriage.

1187
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 2: Was a horrible marriage from the beginning of it. It

1188
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 2: was varrable putting him with Brian Daboll in the ability

1189
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 2: that they're going to let him play outside of structure

1190
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 2: some more. They're gonna get him on the move. I'm

1191
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 2: not telling you he's gonna become like a true rushing quarterback.

1192
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 2: They are going to utilize his legs more and his

1193
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 2: off script ability. That is a perfect marriage too, Whereas

1194
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,879
Speaker 2: like Callahan, I don't know what the hell he was thinking, like, yeah,

1195
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 2: this quarterback is perfectly going to fit my system. No,

1196
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 2: it was horrible to begin with, but now I think

1197
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 2: it's gonna be good.

1198
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 1: Let's see how good you think it's gonna be. Not

1199
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: for super Bowl, not for conference winner, forget all that

1200
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: division winner plus nine fifty Andrew Erickson, have you already

1201
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 1: bet it done?

1202
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 3: Yes? The betting pros feed the socials, it's all over there.

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Speaker 3: My favorite features bets featuring the Tennessee Titans.

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Speaker 1: So to make the playoffs, I'll take the to make

1205
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Speaker 1: the playoffs a plus three sixty instead.

1206
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 3: Wow to me?

1207
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 2: Take that's fine, that's fine.

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00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: Well, you know what's amazing though.

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00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 3: You're going against the trend though here like that's I

1210
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 3: don't think that's like the trend is last place to

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00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 3: first place into the division.

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00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: I know, but I already have one of them.

1213
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 3: Do you think two teams are gonna come out of

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00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 3: the asas South? No? So then why how they gonna

1215
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 3: make playoffs? They don't mind the division? Is that drum?

1216
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:15,879
Speaker 2: Is that another mic troue.

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Speaker 5: Two shows microphones, two shows, two microphones and all right, bazinga, alright,

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna have to go bed it. What do you

1219
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 5: think the win total for this team is?

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00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 2: Oh, I know, six and a half, seven and a half,

1221
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 2: six and a.

1222
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: Half plus one ten for the over, minus one five

1223
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: for the under.

1224
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:39,879
Speaker 2: Over take it the over.

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00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: Don't have it everybody. So that's a look at the South.

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