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Another pointless video call where nothing 11 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: gets done. I think you're on mute, David. Oh sorry, 12 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: what did I miss it? Just approved Miro for the 13 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: whole company. Miro that's the online whiteboard for team collaboration. 14 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: We can make these long video meetings so much shorter 15 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: with miroboards. We can share ideas, feedback and updates on 16 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: them whenever actually see what we're talking about. It's all online. 17 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: Mirro will or flexible work set up so much easier 18 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: with one virtual space for our brainstorms, projects presentation. Oh 19 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: that sounds kind of amazing, So I don't need to 20 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: wake up for six am calls with the London office anymore. 21 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: Now you're getting it. Don't let time zones get in 22 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: the way of your team working well together. See why 23 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: nine nine percent of the Fortune hundred trust Miro to 24 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: get good work done from anywhere. Get your first three 25 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: boards free at miro dot com. That's m I R 26 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: dot com. All right, we're gonna go now to La 27 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: County Da George Gaston. I'm going to go through this 28 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: in English first, then I'll do Spanish, and then I'll 29 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: answer any question said any of you guys may so. 30 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: First all, I want to begin by saying I want 31 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: to suppress my deepest condolences to the both the but 32 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: I listen to sometime of family. I know they're untimely 33 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: death has been devastating to them and to most of 34 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: us in our immunity. I recognized us at very difficult times, 35 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: and they're difficult for many reasons. Understandably, many of us 36 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: are angry, including myself, and we all which if we 37 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: could predict violence, but the realities that we can't. In 38 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: this particular case, the history of the suspect, Sir Flores, 39 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: did not contain any evidence of violence. He was basically 40 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: someone that had been drug addictive. For many years, he 41 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: had been arrested mostly for drug related offenses, and almost 42 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: a decade ago, he was arrested and convicted for burglarizing 43 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 1: his grandparents home and stealing a TV. He then remained 44 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,679 Speaker 1: pretty much away from the criminal justice system until he 45 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: arrests in this particular case, where he was arrested for 46 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 1: possessional drugs for personal use and the possession of a gun. 47 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: The outcome in this particular case, given what we knew 48 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 1: then no history of violence, very little contact with the 49 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: criminal justice system for nearly ten years, was appropriate. When 50 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: people are arrested for serious crimes, we work hard to 51 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: ensure that there are serious consequences, including lengthy periods of incarceration. 52 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: But we have an imperfect system. And that's not only 53 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: here in LA, that's everywhere. I know that this is 54 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: frustrating to hear and they may not help he old 55 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: at once for some, but we do not serve our 56 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: community when we try to pretend that we can predict 57 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: one hundred percent of the time when these cases are 58 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: going to go, when these cases are going to occur. 59 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: Best we can do is continue to work towards a 60 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: safer community and doing the things that we know to work, 61 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: like providing effective intervention when people are under privation, ensuring 62 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: that we have transitional services when people are getting out 63 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: of prison, because ensuring that we have appropriate trauma recovery, 64 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: working to ensure that people get employment, that they get housing, 65 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: and they get the services that they need. We have 66 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: been down the road of being scare and reacting harshly. 67 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: I think some of us will remember Willie Horton, the 68 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: horrible case that they all too decades of very harsh incarceration. 69 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: I know we're punishment. It never made us any safer, 70 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: and in fact, many would argue that we're here today 71 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: because of the mistakes that we made in the past. 72 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: I understand again how difficult this is, but I urge 73 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: every one to ensure that we do not overreact here 74 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: and that we do the things that we know to work. 75 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: I want to move very quickly in Spanish. Now, all right, 76 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: we'll jump in here. That is that La County District 77 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: Attorney George Gascony. If he goes back to taking questions 78 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: in English from reporters, and I don't know that he's 79 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: going to do that, we will go back and rejoin 80 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: this news conference. He called this because he's in really 81 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: deep trouble. Now, the recall effort has already reached the 82 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 1: number of signatures that they need to put this on 83 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: the ballot, but they need a cushion of one hundred 84 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: and fifty to two hundred thousand more signatures from Elle 85 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: County registered voters, and you can do that and recall 86 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 1: da George Gascone dot com. Please do that because they 87 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: need this margin. What we had there was about three 88 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 1: or four minutes of Gascon explaining to the gathered people 89 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: the reason we dumped out is because he's moving over 90 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: to Spanish and we're not a Spanish language radio station, 91 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: so we'll pass on that. And of course, both the 92 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: police officers who were murdered in the suspect that killed 93 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: them all Latino, so I guess he found it important, 94 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: probably get a lot of coverage in Telemundo. This just 95 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: devastated the Elmonte community, the murder of these two police 96 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: officers at the hands of a striker. What you did 97 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: not hear in that three or four minutes from George 98 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: Gascon was the law and the law, the three strikes 99 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 1: law says if you have a strike the way justin 100 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: Floris had a strike and you're arrested for a probation 101 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: violation such as possessing a gun, you have to go 102 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: back to stay prison. That's what Gascone and his directives 103 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: decided that they were going to ignore. In fact, a 104 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: judge in an appeals court overturned that directive. It was 105 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: too late in the case of Flora's because his case 106 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: came in front of Gascone just a couple of months 107 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: after Gascone took office and was quick to move on 108 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: his directives. So what happened to Floris instead is that 109 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: he got to a very light sentence of twenty days, 110 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: which was already time served, and he was free to 111 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: go on what you heard, Gascon said that we cannot 112 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: predict violence, and there was nothing his criminal record that 113 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: indicated he was a violent person. I don't know possessing 114 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: a gun. And if you've seen the picture of Floris 115 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: gang tattoos all over his face, this is a dangerous person. 116 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: And what we also learned late last week is that 117 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: this separated wife, I guess, was staying at the hotel 118 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: and supposedly Flores would stay there too. This hotel in 119 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: El Monty where this took place, which I understand it. 120 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: They can. They're taking questions now in English. Oh okay, 121 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: let's listen in assist, and I can't even hear him 122 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: though on record. However, the one part of this that 123 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: people cast it is not a case by case analysis 124 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:36,719 Speaker 1: factor shrink on prostessional record. Here it is about the 125 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: strikealysis statics and maybe just basy slam of cour I 126 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: guess defend against the idea that people have suggested that 127 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: the shrink they left you. Obviously you can argue a 128 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: position resulting a long assent to that as far as 129 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 1: I'm on, that shrikes mouth based on any factor of 130 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: the case itself. So splain sure. I think the first 131 00:08:58,080 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: thing that we have to go back is we got 132 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: to look the circumstances. In this case. We had an 133 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: individual that has been drug addictive for many years. Yeah, 134 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 1: he's just a drug cast in multiple times for a 135 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: variety of low level offenses. The prior case was a 136 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: case where he stole a television by breaking into his 137 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: grandparents home and he was high at the time. He 138 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: went through a lengthy period of time without any contact 139 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: with the criminal justice system. The current case, he's arrested 140 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: for possession of drugs in possession of a gun. He 141 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: could have even under my directives, he could have gone 142 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: to jail. As a matter of fact, had the case 143 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: been set for trial, it's very possible that he would 144 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: still be waiting for a trial date. He was on bail. 145 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: He was out on bail for a sensive period of time. 146 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: We can if the thing to death, there's certainly many 147 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: opportunities who were a catastrophe, a tragedy could have occur. 148 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 1: But the reality is that when you have the history 149 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: that this individual had, so this is what we're talking about. 150 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: The outcome was appropriate under the circumstances. He's decided to 151 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 1: override the three strikes because he doesn't want people going 152 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: to jail or prison. We could have put this guy 153 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: away for two and a half to three years in CASCO. 154 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: I think you have to look at the case. Okay, 155 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 1: the case based on the circumstances, I think it was 156 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: appropriate and it would have been appropriate. Regard how many 157 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: more guys is he doing this way, and then I'll 158 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 1: come to you special jury appropriate appointing, Poe. I think 159 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: the criticism within your own office, he's a the worry 160 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 1: is one way, but an apprecation you didn't man that 161 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: propecutors drop previous convictions, wouldn't they deal with their striker events, 162 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: their appointing On the most recent case, there was a charge, 163 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: So that's part one. What do you say the gun 164 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 1: tells us this is still a dangerous person? Does it not? 165 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: Teleports also rule that you're director of this constitution. So 166 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: howard things beat? Okay, let me let me take one 167 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: out of time. First of all, use the term third striker, 168 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: and I want to correct the record because this was 169 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: not a third strikes one. Okay. Also, it's important to 170 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: all that the strike that we're talking about was a 171 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: non serious, non violent strike. You don't get to decide 172 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: that it's still the strike. Body under the influence of drugs. 173 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: Breaking doesn't matter in parents home and taking it here. 174 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: That's what the law is asked to the issue of 175 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: the appellate decision in this case, which was mixed by 176 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: the way, because actually the course says that we have 177 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: to legs to the strike, but we don't have to 178 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: prove the strikes. We are still considering this case and 179 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: I don't know what the final outcome would be. Yes, 180 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: I'm just a little bit of puzzle when you talk 181 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: about it. If you can the terminal person factions. You're 182 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: going to be well when you have a pattern of 183 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: faction and practice platter person which ducase a period of time, 184 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 1: they continue criminal life. Givit the radius face in between them. 185 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: But there's a continued dry gets right, he's got a gun. 186 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: Increases the vue. You say you could tell the burden 187 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:15,319 Speaker 1: rate drug abuse. That's fine. He gets a firearm all 188 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: of a sudden. That's a quantum leap. Why should your 189 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: people take hands a quantum leave the same good question. 190 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 1: We're gonna hold it, We're gonna try it. That's right. 191 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: He's got a gun. That chose he's first of all, 192 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: I'll agree with you with the you know that there 193 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: was a quantum leap here. Okay, yes, let me let 194 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: me finish. You know you've already said this four times. 195 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: I think you ignored as the fact that by carrying 196 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: a gun that elevates the seriously, That's what I say. 197 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: On the second is a clear indication that apparently the 198 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 1: criminal justices had made an impression apart this guy. The 199 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: procession that we're gone. It's not considered make an impression 200 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: simple procession of a gun. The law says you could 201 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: send him away for having it. He was arrested for 202 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: possessional drugs and possession of a gun, not the use 203 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: of a gun under the circumstances. I believe that I 204 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: was an appropriate na kills people about the politics your 205 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: office is denied that you were going to pay for 206 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: the somewhat politic that you keep having to hold these 207 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: press conferences and explained after these events happened. There's a 208 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 1: major recall effort for you. How is that not politics? 209 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: How are you not campaigning right now? Having to explain 210 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: after all of the tragic events keep happening. But first 211 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: of all, I'm not having I'm not continuing to explain 212 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: I think is appropriate for me. You're doing this because 213 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: of the recall. Talk to the community through all of you, 214 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: to discuss what happened and the actions that we took. 215 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: You talk about this funeral payment that was a complete 216 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: falsehood that has been spread around. This man was not 217 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: a victim of a crime. He is a sauspect. We 218 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: would now pay for his services, and we have made 219 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: up very clear. This is not about to explain that. 220 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: This is simply about clear on the record. Thank you 221 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: so much. So, I think he's bailing them. Looks like 222 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: he's bailing out. That's come to the question in Spanish. 223 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: But do we know did he leave or is he 224 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: standing there? Answering we don't know. TV is not covering it. Oh, 225 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: I see, we just got an audio feed that's not 226 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: him though speaking Spanish? Is it that sounds like a reporter? 227 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: Sounds it's a reporter. All right, Well we'll drop out 228 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: because I think George Gascon was feeling the heat. Particularly. 229 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: I don't know who that last reporter was that made 230 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: the same point I did. He's not learning any lessons 231 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: if you're just tuning in. This is a press conference 232 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: that we just had on the air from the Los 233 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: Angeles County District Attorney George Gascon about the shooting down 234 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: last Tuesday of two Almonte police officers. The shooter justin Floris. 235 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: This is a man with a strike on his record 236 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: under California three strikes law when he was arrested for 237 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: gun possession and drugs in twenty twenty. Under the law, 238 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: because he has a strike, he can go back to 239 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: state prison for two and a half to three years. 240 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: In fact, he should, but Gascon decided to override that, 241 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: declaring this as a non violent person. He hadn't had 242 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: contact with the criminal justice system for years, and the 243 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: reporter asked the same question, I did I think having 244 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: a gun and the other thing I didn't get to 245 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: And we'll take a quick break and I'll come back 246 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: and get to it. But is that Apparently he was 247 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: also facing a possible revocation of his probation for this 248 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: whole domestic violence thing with his separated wife, So we'll 249 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: talk about that when we come back. We're gonna also 250 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: see if one of our reporters, Blake trolling on the 251 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: scene can get a question in to Gascon. But the 252 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: whole thing might be over, but I'll give you more 253 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: when we come back. Also, apparently, look at that I 254 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: was just handed this. We have money. The cash contest 255 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: has returned to KFI. You'll have a chance to win 256 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: a thousand bucks. Johnny can't show on KFI, and the 257 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: law says you could send him away for having it. 258 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: He was arrested for possessional drugs and possession of a gun, 259 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: not the use of a gun under the circumstances, I 260 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: believe that I was an appropriate rug. They can wait 261 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: till it kills people. Question about the politics, you're all 262 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: this is denied that you were going to paid for 263 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: the suffer politic keep having to hold these press conferences 264 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: and explained after these events happened. There's a major recall 265 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: effort for you. How is that not politics? How are 266 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: you not campaigning right now? Having to explain after all 267 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: the tragic events keep happening. But first of all, I'm 268 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: not having I'm not continuing to explain. I think is 269 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: appropriate for me. You're doing this because of the recall 270 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: talk to the community, through all of you, to discuss 271 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: what happened and the so that we took you talk 272 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: about this funeral payment that was a complete falsehood that 273 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: has been spread around. This man was not a victim 274 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: of a crime. He is a suspect. We would now 275 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: pay for his services, and we have made out very clear. 276 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: This is not about to explain that. This is simply 277 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: about clear on the record. Thank you so much. So. 278 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: I think he's bailing think of them looks like he's 279 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 1: bailing out. That's come to a question in Spanish. But 280 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: do we know did he leave or is he standing there? 281 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 1: Answering We don't know. TV is not covering it. Oh, 282 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,959 Speaker 1: I see, we just got an audio feed that's not 283 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: him though speaking Spanish, is it that sounds like a reporter, 284 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: So it's a reporter. All right, Well we'll drop out 285 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: because I think George Gascon was feeling the heat particularly. 286 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: I don't know who that last reporter was that made 287 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 1: the same point I did. He's not learning any lessons 288 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: if you're just tuning in. This is a press conference 289 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: that we just had on the air from the Los 290 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: Angeles County District Attorney George Gascon about the shooting death 291 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: last Tuesday of two Almonte police officers. The shooter justin Floris. 292 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: This is a man with a strike on his record 293 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 1: under California three strikes law when he was arrested for 294 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: gun possession and drugs in twenty twenty. Under the law, 295 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 1: because he has a strike, he can go back to 296 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: state prison for two and a half to three years. 297 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 1: In fact, he should, but Gascone decided to override that, 298 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 1: declaring this as a non violent person. He hadn't had 299 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 1: contact with the criminal justice system for years. And the 300 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: reporter asked the same question I did. I think having 301 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: a gun and the other thing I didn't get to. 302 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: And we'll take a quick break and I'll come back 303 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: and get to it. But is that apparently he was 304 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: also facing a possible revocation of his probation for this 305 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: whole domestic violence thing with his separated wife. So we'll 306 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: talk about that when we come back. We're gonna also 307 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: see of one of our reporters controlling on the scene 308 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: can get a question in to Gascone. But the whole 309 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: thing might be over. But I'll give you more when 310 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: we come back. 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But you might want to check your span 327 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: junk folder to see if you won her next chance 328 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: to win his next hour Camfire is giving away this 329 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: thousand dollars nine am to five pm Monday through Friday. 330 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: All right, so we just heard from George Gascon the 331 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: La County DA A press conference had lasted all of 332 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 1: about five minutes, and then he did it in Spanish, 333 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: and then he took a few questions and then he 334 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: ran off. Is basically the theme was the killer of 335 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: those two police officers in al Monty. Well, we just 336 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: can't predict what people are going to do. And justin Flores, 337 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: of course was nabbed for having a gun, and since 338 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 1: he already had a strike on his record, they could 339 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: have sent them back to stay prison for a two 340 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: and a half to possibly three years, but instead, thanks 341 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 1: to Gascon's policies, he was given a break, got twenty 342 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 1: days in jail in two years probation we're gonna talk 343 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: once again to John Lewin, Ella County Deputy district Attorney, 344 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: was on our show last week. He's got some incredible 345 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: insights and he decided to go very public with his 346 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: objections to Gascon's policy. Season. We're going to get his 347 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,239 Speaker 1: comments on the news event that was just aired here 348 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: on KFI. John, welcome back to the show. Thanks so 349 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: much for having me. Now, yeah, what was your tech 350 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 1: mind was? You know when you heard one reporter say this, well, 351 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: you know he's got a gun. A gun indicates he's 352 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 1: not changing. How come you didn't apply the law? Well, 353 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: what is so disingenuous about the entire presentation is that 354 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: what people need to understand is his policy was very clear. 355 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: All strikes are to be dismissed. They are not allowed 356 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: to be alleged, all of them. That doesn't mean all 357 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 1: strikes that we look at and say, well his record 358 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: is bad, we should keep it, or his record is good, 359 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: we should let it go. It means all strikes. So 360 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: when he talks about the facts about well it was 361 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: grandma's house or whatever it was, that is completely disingenuous 362 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: because the policy was they dismiss it and don't eat 363 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: even look at the facts of the original crime. So 364 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 1: what he's basically trying to say is is, well, I 365 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: ordered all my deputies to dismiss every strike, to not 366 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: file any new strikes. But it turns out that had 367 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: I actually looked at the facts of this case, I 368 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: probably would have done it anyway. So it's disingenuous, it's untrue. 369 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: My favorite comment was, and I don't know about you guys, 370 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 1: but apparently being a gang member with your gang tattooed 371 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: on your face, having a prior strike, and now being 372 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 1: caught with a gun is not a violent crime. Yeah, 373 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 1: that was remarkable. I mean, and he kept put by 374 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: the way, to your point, he did say, with his directives, 375 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: there's not going to be any exceptions to this. So 376 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: not right. It's not even that there's no exceptions, it's 377 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 1: that they don't even look anything about the prior offense. 378 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,719 Speaker 1: So what he's trying to basically say now, it's similar 379 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: to what he's doing with the funeral thing. So he's 380 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: now saying, even though his policy says, listen, if you're 381 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: killed by police, we won't look at the charges, whether 382 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: they're filed, we won't consider that. So now his out 383 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: is is that basically they ruled it a suicide because 384 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: apparently he ended up shooting himself. So that's why his 385 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: policy wouldn't have applied. But if you read his policy, 386 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: if it turns out that he had been killed by 387 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: the police who shot him seconds later, apparently we'd be 388 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: paying for his funeral. So again, here's what we learned. 389 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: We've learned that George Gascon will get up there and 390 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: he will say anything anything that he can. And the 391 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 1: only safety valve on that is our people going to 392 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: look and analyze what are his policies, what has he said, 393 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: and how is what he is saying untrue? Because in 394 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: the end, guys, and some stuff's pretty obvious. He just 395 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: Los Angeles that a gang member getting caught with a 396 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 1: gun is not a violent crime. I guess he had 397 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: that gun, guys. Maybe it was a part of his 398 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: community service. Maybe he was going to use it to 399 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 1: escort little old ladies through dark alleys at night. Yeah, 400 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: self protection, well, self protection, probably the protection of others. 401 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: It's insulting, it's dangerous, and I think the voters in 402 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: Los Angeles are going to understand. I think they get it. Today, 403 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: he looked like he wouldn't answer questions. Who asked the 404 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: first question? I couldn't see. Yeah, I don't have the 405 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: We didn't have the video when you get an audio feed, 406 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: so we'd have to go buy the voices that I 407 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: wasn't sure who it was. But I just want to 408 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: repeat something that you said because I think it's important 409 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: for the listeners to learn this, because he tried to 410 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: make it sound like in this news conference that we 411 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: took a look at Justin Flores's background and we decided 412 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: that the burglary is non violent, and therefore that's why 413 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: we treated them the way we did in twenty twenty 414 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: one when we gave him the probab in twenty days 415 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 1: in jail. But what you're saying is, oh, no, he 416 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: had a policy that the guy's got a strike, you 417 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 1: don't worry about it, just dismiss it doesn't matter. Don't 418 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: like almost you said. You don't look into it's backer. 419 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: You don't see whether or not he has any violent 420 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: crimes and is in his history. Let me not pussy 421 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: foot around. That's what you call a lie, an untrue statement, 422 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: as it's coming out that he knows is untrue. The 423 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: policy said we have to dismiss every single strike. We 424 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: can't allege any new strike. That was his policy. And 425 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: the only reason to change is because the Court of appeal. First, 426 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Peer Court judge said you're breaking the law. 427 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 1: You can't do that. Then the Court of Appeal heard 428 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: the case and said you're breaking the law, you can't 429 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: do that. So the idea that somehow he made a 430 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: reason determination looking at the guy's history, and that because 431 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 1: he noticed how he talks about it was it was 432 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 1: grandpa's house or grandpa's house exactly right, Yeah, the residential burg. 433 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: And you have a gang member now going around with 434 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 1: a gun. What's the guy's criminal history? Has he released it? 435 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: By listening to him, it sounds like in the meantime, 436 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: I guess he was maybe going to college, maybe he 437 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: got his Eagle scout in the meantime, I wonder what 438 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: the criminal history is. As I don't know what it is, 439 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 1: I think very interested. I hope somebody finds out he's 440 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: been da DA a year and a half. How many 441 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: other guys have been treated like this in a roam 442 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: in the streets right now? That's what I wonder. Well, 443 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 1: we're going to find out, because what's going to happen 444 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: is and particularly with his juvenile policy, where these guys 445 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: basically end up getting released, we don't do anything to 446 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 1: them in their prime crime committing ages. We're going to 447 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: be seeing the negative implications of George Gascone for years 448 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: to come. As and it's true. I watched it. It 449 00:26:55,520 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 1: was heartbreaking. I watched Officer Santana's mother and father. It 450 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: was heartbreaking. And I can tell you I speak for 451 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: so many prosecutors in our office. We are ashamed and 452 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: we are embarrassed to be associated with this. All right, 453 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: John Lewin, thank you very much for sharing your thoughts 454 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: with me. I appreciate it, no problem, thanks guys. All right, 455 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: that's La County Deputy DA John Lewin, who was on 456 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: our show last week to make his case against his boss, 457 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: George Gascone. Win up. More on that coming up, Johnny 458 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: Ken Show on KAFI. We were covering this hour a 459 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: pretty brief news conference by La County District Attorney George Gascone, 460 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 1: who spoke for about four minutes in English, then switched 461 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 1: to Spanish, then took a few questions, then ran out. 462 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 1: I don't think you liked how the questions were going. 463 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: This of course, all has to do with the murder 464 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: last week of two El Monty police officers. One of 465 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 1: them was the Joseph Santana. We had his mother, Olga 466 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 1: Garcia on the show last Friday, where she spoke about 467 00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: her son and her anger over the Lada because it 468 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: was his policies that left this guy Floris on the streets. 469 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: You know, people passed three strikes for a reason they're 470 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: worried about. They were worried about career criminals. It all 471 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: started when poly Class was kidnapped up in northern California 472 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: by a man by the name of Richard Allen Davis 473 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 1: who had had a long criminal record, but he kept 474 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: getting released. People think that there should be consequences for 475 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: cumulative violations. That's the idea behind the strike, the three 476 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: strikes laws. This justin Floris as Gascon just tried to 477 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: dismiss him as just a drug user gang remember who 478 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: had a gun and more recently probably would have been 479 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: found in violation a probation because of a domestic violence 480 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: situation with this separated wife that was living in that hotel, 481 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: because either she was or she wasn't stabbed a couple 482 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: of days before. But Apparently they were about to look 483 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: into that when he opened fire on the police officers 484 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: and killed them. And then, as we've learned over the weekend, 485 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: he apparently took his own life, which means we now 486 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: don't definitely don't pay for his funeral because he was 487 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: not killed by police officers, But put that aside for 488 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: a moment. Gascon's take at this news conference was, we 489 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: can't we can't predict who's going to be violent. Who 490 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: isn't nothing in this man's record, a gang member who 491 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: kept carrying a gun. All right, Druggy, you don't think 492 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: there's a possibility that someone like that's going to get violent? 493 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: And what did he do that was violent that we 494 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: were not able to arrest him for, Because that's the thing. 495 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of crimes are committed that they 496 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: are never found out about. And I'm saying Floris did 497 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: a lot of violent things. But you have to understand 498 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: that somebody riding this train, a gang member holding a 499 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: gun is probably not up to any good. So we 500 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: do have some audio. Apparently as Gascon was trying to flee, 501 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: someone did ask the question about the mother of Joseph Santana. 502 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: Her name is Olga Garcia blaming Gascone for her son's death. 503 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: Have anything to say to your mother of Monty Police 504 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: Officer Joseph at that time, I was blaming your policies 505 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: for her son's death. Well, I was just told about 506 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: this audio, so I barely doesn't answer the question. Or 507 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: is he answering it in the background there, I couldn't tell. 508 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: He just walked off. He ignored the question. Of course, 509 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: this Floris was considered a felon. This was a conviction 510 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: for burglary. It led to a two year tournament state prison. 511 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: Gascon tried to write it off. All we just stole 512 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: from his grandparents because of his drug habit. He has 513 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: a dozen other prosecutions, many resolved with no contest please 514 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: and probationary sentence. Yeah. See, that's what people didn't like 515 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: about the system, or one of the reasons they tried 516 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: to reform it with three strikes laws. You're going too 517 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: soft on these guys who, when they know you're going 518 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: to go soft, will continue their criminal ways. They have 519 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,719 Speaker 1: no consequences to fear. Floris appears to be one of them. 520 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: Had no problem walking around a possession and a gun. 521 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: I don't know what the circumstances were that led to 522 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: his arrest back in twenty twenty, but the charge was 523 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,479 Speaker 1: being a felon in possession of a firearm, says following 524 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: it arrest in March of twenty twenty, Well, there must 525 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: have been a reason he was arrested. Maybe it was 526 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: a drug case, maybe it was something more serious. But 527 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: they dismissed the other counts and he entered a plea, 528 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: one for being a felon possession of ammunition, another of 529 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: being in possession of meth and because of Gasconne's policies 530 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: which ignored the fact that he has a strike. I 531 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: just talked to John Lewin, a deputy DA, and he 532 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: made the point that's worth reiterating. Scoln when he took 533 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: office with its directives, didn't want any exceptions in this 534 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: case came up just a couple of months after Gascoonne 535 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,719 Speaker 1: took office, and what John Lune was saying was prosecutors 536 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: were told, deputy days were told strikes or just ignored. 537 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: All right, just take this case on the basis of 538 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: what it is today. Right, Oh, all right, Well, he's 539 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: just a felon in possession of a gun. He didn't 540 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: use the gun he didn't kill anybody, all right, that's 541 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: non serious, that's non violent. Let's go as soft as 542 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: we can. And that's why he got the twenty days 543 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: and the probation. That's who we're dealing with. And the 544 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: point I made, and I wish somebody out there in 545 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: investigative reporting could take a look at this, but there's 546 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: got to be a lot of other guys have been 547 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: treated like this. They're loose, they're on the streets. That's 548 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: what's leading to these rising crime rates. We've said this before, 549 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: but recipivism is pretty constant. It's often the same group 550 00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: of criminals who recommit the crimes over and over again. 551 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: As many we don't find them responsible for crimes who 552 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: don't arrest him, but the ones that do we often 553 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: find out. Of course they have a criminal record. And 554 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: the idea behind three strikes, particularly with a subgroup of 555 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: these guys, was to do something bigger with them in 556 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: terms of consequences. What gascone is trying to do is 557 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: reverse all that, ignore the strikes, ignore the background. One 558 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: of the things we learned in the last ten years 559 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: was let's not consider why they were in prison before, 560 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: because here why they serve their time they're reformed. Tr 561 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: tell me what they're responsible for right now, and we'll 562 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: just judge them on that. You can't do that because 563 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: people like this can be dangerous for life. And again, 564 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: as that reporter asked, he's a gang member, he's carrying 565 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: a gun. He hasn't changed his ways, and now apparently 566 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: he's threatening and perhaps stabbing his separated wife. All right, Moore, 567 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: coming up on the John and Ken Show here on KFI, 568 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: And you just heard Deborah Mark read the breaking news. 569 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: Bill Cosby has been found liable in a civil trial 570 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:09,479 Speaker 1: in Santa Monica that he did sexually batter a woman 571 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: by the name of Judy Huff at the Playboy Mansion. 572 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: The year was nineteen seventy five, when she would have 573 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 1: been sixteen, Cosby thirty seven. And what did you say? 574 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: Five hundred thousand dollars was the award? Is that what 575 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: I heard you read? Now? I would imagine this will 576 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: be appealed. And I don't know that there's a lot 577 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: of money anymore to Cosby. I have no idea what's 578 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 1: left of his fortune. I don't think the Cosby Show 579 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,320 Speaker 1: reruns are anywhere now, are they? I haven't have you 580 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: seen him on streaming or no. I wonder about that. 581 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think they're on any of 582 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 1: the cable channels, But I don't know if any of 583 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,439 Speaker 1: the streaming networks I've decided to run them at that's 584 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 1: considered taboo. It was a two week a two week trial, 585 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: and one of the things that probably helped her is 586 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: that she had two other women who testified under under oath, 587 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 1: A Kim Burr and a Margaret Shapiro, that Cosby forced 588 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 1: himself on them when they were teenagers that same year. 589 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,399 Speaker 1: Now Cosby wasn't there, He just had a lawyer there 590 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: to try to attack the women's credibility. One of the 591 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 1: things that happened to Hut is that apparently she first 592 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: said it was nineteen seventy four, but she revised her 593 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: story to nineteen seventy five, but her story was consistent. 594 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,320 Speaker 1: She got a friend who was also testifying, and that 595 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: helped her case. Donna Samuelson said they met Cosby when 596 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 1: he was filming the movie Let's Do It Again at 597 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: a park in San Marino, and Cosby struck up a 598 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: conversation with them and eventually took them to the Playboy 599 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: mansion and She claims when she came out of a bathroom, 600 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: Cosby called her over to a bedroom and took advantage 601 00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: of her without her consent. She was pretty ethic when 602 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 1: she was on the stand about what he did. She 603 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: told the jury, this was very forceful. It was not 604 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: what I wanted at all. I had my eyes closed 605 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,359 Speaker 1: at the time. I was freaking out. The only thing 606 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,359 Speaker 1: she didn't testify to, which surprises me a little bit, 607 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: is that he apparently didn't drug her. I don't think 608 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 1: she said anything about being given a drink that had 609 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 1: any anything in it that made her woozy. Her friend 610 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 1: cooborated her claim in her own testimony. The friend is 611 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: now a company owner who also volunteers on a mounted 612 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: search and rescue team in Bear Valley. She said she 613 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 1: had no financial stake in telling her story and simply 614 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 1: wanted to support her friend. She said Judy Huff told 615 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 1: her about the alleged attack while they were still at 616 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 1: the mansion. She could clearly see her friend was distraught, crying, 617 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: begging to leave. Of course, the question still comes up 618 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy five, and you just brought up I think 619 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 1: the civil matter was brought up a few years back, 620 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: but why so long? But one of those things that 621 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 1: she says kind of got suppressed. She said she persuaded 622 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,760 Speaker 1: Huff to stay to take advantage of the free food 623 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: an amenities set the Playboy Mansion. That was wrong, that 624 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:17,800 Speaker 1: was selfish of me. 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