Speaker 1: Welcome to Checking In with Michelle Williams, a production of
Speaker 1: My Heart Radio and The Black Effect. Yeah, there's not
Speaker 1: many times where I get to feel so relaxed when
Speaker 1: I'm doing an interview, especially when you know the person
Speaker 1: that you're gonna talk to is somebody that you've talked
Speaker 1: to all the time. But at the same time, there's
Speaker 1: a little nerves because you don't want to come across
Speaker 1: you know, just too casual and just kind of like
Speaker 1: you don't honor them. But I'm so excited about this
Speaker 1: episode because my next guest conquered so much being in
Speaker 1: one of the most successful girl groups of all time,
Speaker 1: but still maintaining an amazing, illustrious solo career. She's a
Speaker 1: wife and mother, and I don't know how she balances it,
Speaker 1: but we're gonna talk about all of that today. We're
Speaker 1: also going to talk about her overcoming some fears right
Speaker 1: here on Checking In with Michelle Williams. Y'all, I'm so
Speaker 1: excited someone dear and close to me is checking in.
Speaker 1: She really needs no introduction, but she is a Grammy
Speaker 1: Award winning artist, beautiful actress, keeps inspiring us and keeps
Speaker 1: bringing us amazing movies. During the Christmas holidays. She has
Speaker 1: an amazing EP out right. Now, okay, y'all, let me
Speaker 1: stop acting like this. Ain't my sister, y'all? Kelly Rowland
Speaker 1: is checking in, Hi, sister, my sister. Listen, I could
Speaker 1: go and give like your full twenty six year resume.
Speaker 1: Speaking of twenty six didn't I just read somewhere it's
Speaker 1: been twenty three years we released Survivor, Right, it hasn't
Speaker 1: been twenty three years. No, I thought it was wasn't no, no, no,
Speaker 1: the writings on the wall twenty three years. I just
Speaker 1: saw something that said twenty three years, twenty three years,
Speaker 1: and then it's been how long for? But somebody just
Speaker 1: brought up Survivor to me too. Yeah, Survivor. I think
Speaker 1: it's twenty one or twenty listen, but we still fly,
Speaker 1: you so fly, It's still it's still all good. Well,
Speaker 1: all I know is that I have you here to
Speaker 1: talk about a number of things. But you just put
Speaker 1: out some new music called K. Yeah, and why did
Speaker 1: you decide to just go by K? You know what,
Speaker 1: I really wanted to put the record out, and we
Speaker 1: were all thinking about what what am I going to
Speaker 1: title the record? I said at this point, I just
Speaker 1: want to put it out, you know. Yeah, so I said,
Speaker 1: let's put a K on it and call it a
Speaker 1: day today. Yeah yeah, But you know, I thought it
Speaker 1: was so cool because I don't know if people know
Speaker 1: what an e p K is, right, It's kind of
Speaker 1: like this this visual sizzle of work, or when you're
Speaker 1: about to put out an album or a book or something,
Speaker 1: you kind of sit down and you're telling people what
Speaker 1: it's about. Is your e p K kind of your
Speaker 1: life story in this amount of song, Not your life story,
Speaker 1: but just your season of life. This particular season of life.
Speaker 1: I would definitely say is this season of life? You
Speaker 1: know one? I mean, it took six years to record this,
Speaker 1: this record, which I was I feel like I've talked
Speaker 1: your ear off about you know what I mean before
Speaker 1: before this, and it took a long time for me.
Speaker 1: It really meant a lot to me to findis yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I feel like because of what we did with all
Speaker 1: of our tempo with songs when you see, I just
Speaker 1: really wanted to have a moment where the music felt alive,
Speaker 1: you know, with the horns and the drums and you know,
Speaker 1: this feeling of a little bit of afrobeats thrown in
Speaker 1: a little nostalgia of crazy and disco and what that
Speaker 1: felt like. It feels like so I just it got
Speaker 1: me really excited when I started to hear them. I'm sorry, No,
Speaker 1: it just feels like being all up in our interview.
Speaker 1: It's all right. No. I wanted to contribute, you know,
Speaker 1: so I just really want to temple this record. And
Speaker 1: when it came to the the slower songs, you know
Speaker 1: a little bit of more of the down tempo, that
Speaker 1: it just felt like a vibe you know, I was
Speaker 1: all going off a vibe. Better is my favorite song
Speaker 1: on the album, on the on the EP, Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: my favorite. Yeah, it is my favorite UM for me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: everything is beautiful. The visuals that you put out have
Speaker 1: been absolutely incredible. We saw flowers and you kind of
Speaker 1: did you get a little choked up on the end?
Speaker 1: Did Yeah? And what does flowers mean for you? I
Speaker 1: mean flowers? Well, I'll just tell you the first time
Speaker 1: I heard flowers, and it was really you know, moving
Speaker 1: for me, because you know, between me and my mom
Speaker 1: made me think of all the things that I wanted
Speaker 1: to tell her. We've had these conversations. So I thought
Speaker 1: about something that she probably like really needed to hear,
Speaker 1: and um, you know, I just told her just you know,
Speaker 1: openly in in my space. But it felt really good
Speaker 1: to get it out. I feel like Flowers for me
Speaker 1: was cathartic, you know. Yeah, yeah, I mean it was.
Speaker 1: It's absolutely beautiful. You sound amazing the video. I know
Speaker 1: y'all have seen the video for Flowers already. Give us
Speaker 1: just a sneak peek of or some insight on the
Speaker 1: direction of the video for Flowers. Yeah, the video for Flowers.
Speaker 1: When I recorded the song, it felt like there was
Speaker 1: other some it was. It was another feeling in the
Speaker 1: room with myself and the engineer while I recorded the song.
Speaker 1: The way I performed it in the video, and the
Speaker 1: way you see those other bodies in there, how they
Speaker 1: come from underneath the sheets and then you can feel
Speaker 1: their friends. That's that's what I really felt in the
Speaker 1: room while I was recording it. So it's that feeling
Speaker 1: and then having this moment of like transcendence where you
Speaker 1: actually let all those things that for me, all those
Speaker 1: things that I wanted to say, I just let them go,
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah. I like the color on like all
Speaker 1: the color means a lot to me. Because I just
Speaker 1: feel like color is always significant. But I have not
Speaker 1: seen anything, you know, in in draft, which is what
Speaker 1: I said. It would be easy to go to black,
Speaker 1: but I still wanted there to be some color. Oh
Speaker 1: that red was powerful. It's definitely definitely powerful. Now why
Speaker 1: six years? And this is a twofold Why six years?
Speaker 1: I'll let you answer that before I asked that next question. Um,
Speaker 1: I think some of it. I mean, I can be
Speaker 1: honest with you. I think some of it was fear.
Speaker 1: I think some of it was, you know, going into
Speaker 1: a new you know, a new Uh. The industry has
Speaker 1: changed a lot since sorry, since the two thousand's where
Speaker 1: we were releasing music and the way it's presented, the
Speaker 1: way it's marketed, everything is just so different. And for me,
Speaker 1: I was definitely feeling like I've been here a long time.
Speaker 1: I was just trying to think of like, well, what
Speaker 1: do what is everybody listening to? At first I was
Speaker 1: about to conform, and then I was like, I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to conform. You know know, you set the trends,
Speaker 1: You're a trend setter. Well, thank you, don't never forget.
Speaker 1: And I feel like, especially coming from d C, once again,
Speaker 1: I couldn't conform, and I had to think of something
Speaker 1: else that made me feel alive. And for the I
Speaker 1: honestly say, I really didn't care what anyone else thought
Speaker 1: or anything you said. One of the reasons was fear.
Speaker 1: How did you get over the fear of putting out music?
Speaker 1: And people will be surprised. On this podcast is called
Speaker 1: checking in And you had to check in with yourself
Speaker 1: to even be able to even say it was fear,
Speaker 1: And for you to even admit that on this platform
Speaker 1: that it was fear, I'm sure listeners want to know.
Speaker 1: So Kelly Rolling had fear, well, how did she get
Speaker 1: over the fear? Yeah? For me, mine was trial and
Speaker 1: error with sound. I feel like going into these different
Speaker 1: sessions and I was just trying to think, like what
Speaker 1: do I want? What I wanted to feel like, I
Speaker 1: would write everything down. Then once I wrote, like all
Speaker 1: everything down, it was that I really was looking for
Speaker 1: in the music. It was it was everything that I
Speaker 1: wasn't hearing, if that makes any sense. I felt like
Speaker 1: I was going a little I was driving myself a
Speaker 1: little crazy. To be honest, Everything that I wrote down
Speaker 1: didn't sound like anything that was on the radio. And
Speaker 1: then I had this moment where I said, don't chase radio.
Speaker 1: You know it's it's you don't have to chase radio.
Speaker 1: Just enjoy creating. And I lost in creating. And when
Speaker 1: I got lost in creating, it was almost like the
Speaker 1: sound was being given to me, because like it was
Speaker 1: like once I got black Magic, after black Magic a week,
Speaker 1: a week, two weeks later came hit Man after hit Man,
Speaker 1: um hit Man, hit Man, hits by the way, yeah
Speaker 1: that's another one too. But after hit Man, I found Crazy.
Speaker 1: So it's like they came in in a yeah, in three.
Speaker 1: So I was really happy. And then I got in
Speaker 1: the studio with Jeff, Jeff Giddy and Nazaarie and just
Speaker 1: things just started to kind of come together and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is it. Like I felt, I
Speaker 1: felt it almost being done. But the fear for me
Speaker 1: was just actually trying things out and not being afraid
Speaker 1: to try. So of six years of recording music, that
Speaker 1: means you've got a lot of music recorded, and there
Speaker 1: is music that is on this EP. Well there's music
Speaker 1: that is not on this EP, songs that I know
Speaker 1: you record it. And so I'm like those songs that
Speaker 1: we've heard too when coming I know you. I know,
Speaker 1: you just put k out so you have an arsenal
Speaker 1: of music, which actually is a good thing because you've
Speaker 1: already got stuff recorded. Yeah, I do, but it wasn't right.
Speaker 1: So mean, it wasn't right for this time, or not
Speaker 1: right to put out. It wasn't right for this time.
Speaker 1: Remember the song that I sent you when I said,
Speaker 1: what do you think about y'all? It's amazing. It's very theatrical,
Speaker 1: that's all I'm gonna say. Go ahead, and I still
Speaker 1: love that song, but it's not the right timing for
Speaker 1: it now. And y'all, when I say theatrical, I mean
Speaker 1: the emotion and the storytelling. It's not it's not a
Speaker 1: jazz hands song, Okay, it's, but it's definitely the story
Speaker 1: in it. So I guess I'm just getting people excited
Speaker 1: for the music now, but I'm also making anticipate y'all,
Speaker 1: Kelly got a lot of music over these six years
Speaker 1: that they're gonna make you put out. Some folks gonna
Speaker 1: go searching for this music. I mean, you invested a
Speaker 1: lot in yourself this time around, and I think people
Speaker 1: need to know, like record deals are different, the industry
Speaker 1: is different. You gotta bet on yourself and invest in
Speaker 1: yourself and not wait on anybody to hand you anything.
Speaker 1: I saw you take control literally of even your recording process.
Speaker 1: Did that help you get over the fear and like, yo,
Speaker 1: I'm a boss because you paid for this out your pocket. Yes,
Speaker 1: And there was no time to waste the same because
Speaker 1: time is money and money is time. So just be lolligagging.
Speaker 1: And I say that I lolligag before, but I will
Speaker 1: say I felt like I could take a little bit
Speaker 1: more time. But you know, I was in the studio
Speaker 1: at home to you know, being able to um collaborate
Speaker 1: with other artists and writers and producers in the studio.
Speaker 1: But that took you know, that was my own money.
Speaker 1: I spent a lot of my own money m and
Speaker 1: it I will say, it's definitely worth it, because if
Speaker 1: you're gonna bet on anybody, you gotta bet on yourself.
Speaker 1: You got to bet on yourself. And what a beautiful
Speaker 1: investment that you made and that you made it in yourself.
Speaker 1: And so this is just to encourage people. Don't wait
Speaker 1: on anybody, even if you got to put two dollars
Speaker 1: to the side, fifty dollars to the side every week
Speaker 1: or every month until you can get that product to
Speaker 1: the way you wanted to be and invest in yourself
Speaker 1: because people look at you differently when you've definitely invested
Speaker 1: in yourself. You've also taken a risk in putting music
Speaker 1: out during the pandemic. When we can't see you, we
Speaker 1: can't touch you. Right now, you'd be going on a
Speaker 1: radio tour or some type of arena tour right now
Speaker 1: out or some intimate space to touch fans. What I
Speaker 1: do know about Kelly Rowland, she wants to touch the
Speaker 1: fans physically and see you. How was that even the
Speaker 1: decision to put music out right now during this pandemic,
Speaker 1: It was really still a hard decision because you can't
Speaker 1: go anywhere really to promote. But everything so different now,
Speaker 1: someone would still are Actually someone just argued me back
Speaker 1: on that specific point. They were like, that's not true.
Speaker 1: You know, you have the power of social media and
Speaker 1: so widespread now when you know you can easily call
Speaker 1: you and you know that this is gonna not just
Speaker 1: be here in the States, is gonna go international, you know,
Speaker 1: because simply of who you are and your star power
Speaker 1: is alway's like it's it's I don't I don't feel
Speaker 1: like a bad idea. I do miss the performances, though, Yeah,
Speaker 1: change up the way you're performing the music, because performing
Speaker 1: the music is what you definitely care about as well.
Speaker 1: And I'm like thinking to myself, like today, how am
Speaker 1: I going to, you know, get these performances out because
Speaker 1: I want to perform Flowers. I want to perform here. Yes,
Speaker 1: come on, I want to perform all these records and
Speaker 1: have everyone see my point of view and perspective artistically
Speaker 1: on these songs because I've seen what the performances look
Speaker 1: like in my dreams, so they have to be they will,
Speaker 1: and they will. I believe in what you declare will be.
Speaker 1: So if you want to perform these songs the way
Speaker 1: you saw them in your dreams, then that's just what
Speaker 1: we're gonna go with. Then we are excited to see that.
Speaker 1: I feel like we um come from an era of
Speaker 1: performances and performing and so definitely missing that. But there
Speaker 1: is an advantage to putting new music out this way
Speaker 1: because there's a whole world of consumers out there that
Speaker 1: you can touch, who this may be their first time
Speaker 1: buying a Kelly Roland album simply because everyone is home.
Speaker 1: It's on the front page of every music outlet right now,
Speaker 1: which I'm always so proud to see speaking of as
Speaker 1: far as you know. I know we said putting music
Speaker 1: out during the pandemic, but everybody has been kind of
Speaker 1: having to make some adjustments and alterations right now. For you,
Speaker 1: since how have you been handling yourself in the pandemic? Personally?
Speaker 1: I remember thinking to myself like, oh, this is only
Speaker 1: gonna last maybe for the next couple of months, and
Speaker 1: when it's just getting longer and longer, and then you
Speaker 1: realize it's nothing you can really do. You have no
Speaker 1: control over it. Can't really be upset, you know too upset.
Speaker 1: You just have to find your space in it and
Speaker 1: your why in it. And you know what am I
Speaker 1: supposed to be doing in this time? I thought about
Speaker 1: that at and Um I was able to spend more
Speaker 1: time with Tim and Titan and not be able to
Speaker 1: really move and get to know Titans even love language
Speaker 1: like play is his love language, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So that's something I was able to learn about him.
Speaker 1: And you know, then here comes Noah, Well, since you
Speaker 1: said it, you said you were able to spend more
Speaker 1: time with tim Um Tim is her husband, and what
Speaker 1: we do know during the pandemic. Something was definitely going
Speaker 1: down um in them shoots um and we have Noah, Yes,
Speaker 1: we have no come on. So that when I was like,
Speaker 1: how have you been handling yourself in the pandemic? Y'all
Speaker 1: this is a family show, but we DEVI do you
Speaker 1: know baby is going through listen and Noah is here.
Speaker 1: We are so excited for you. This is an exciting
Speaker 1: year for you. Yeah, I'm really I'm really grateful. I
Speaker 1: saw authority this year, a new baby this year, a
Speaker 1: new album this year, and I'm I'm just really in
Speaker 1: the space of gratitude. Yes, absolutely, because it's been twenty
Speaker 1: years plus that you have been in the industry. Are
Speaker 1: you still passionate like you were or has it grown
Speaker 1: even more well, I'd definitely say I'm still passionate. I'd
Speaker 1: still love being in the studio. I still love trying
Speaker 1: out new sounds. I still love learning new things. I
Speaker 1: like trying new things now, you know, with even my
Speaker 1: project that I did with a Lifetime with Mary little Like,
Speaker 1: I love executive producing getting the opportunity to do that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I still love it. And I guess when
Speaker 1: you're delving into new um projects, even executive producing. I
Speaker 1: think that could be another way for passions to grow,
Speaker 1: or even to discover passions or discover areas where like,
Speaker 1: oh man, I'm great in that too. I can develop movies,
Speaker 1: I can develop different type of shows and performances. So
Speaker 1: I'm definitely excited about your girls. I think everybody is.
Speaker 1: And to see, Okay, she's just not Kelly Rolling the singer.
Speaker 1: I mean, you blessed us. You've been on a judge
Speaker 1: on American Idol, The Voice Australia executive producing movies, starring
Speaker 1: in the movies. Is there anything you cannot do? You
Speaker 1: know what, that's a real question. There is something I
Speaker 1: can't do. And she's gonna master that and learn that
Speaker 1: a you know, Tim just heard you do that, and
Speaker 1: he just gave you a whole snap. He gave you
Speaker 1: a clap, super clap. Y'all. Listen, Tim, say hello to
Speaker 1: the people right quick and say hello, baby. Wouldn't we
Speaker 1: would know if we w is it? If I met you? Y'all?
Speaker 1: This is listen. When you're interviewing family, anything is bound
Speaker 1: to happen. Y'all. Heard Noah cooling in the background, ever
Speaker 1: so sweetly, Tim just came and said hello to you guys,
Speaker 1: which he rarely, ever, ever, ever does, so thank you
Speaker 1: for joining us. UM, I definitely want to ask you.
Speaker 1: You mentioned fear or feeling like do I have to
Speaker 1: chase radio? Are there any difficult moments that you reflect on?
Speaker 1: I just want to kind of pivot a little bit
Speaker 1: to any viewers who are excited about music, who are excited.
Speaker 1: You know, you turned forty, you have two children now,
Speaker 1: a thriving marriage and music career. I want to pivot
Speaker 1: to any difficult moments that you reflect on, if there's
Speaker 1: anything specific and how you made it through a low moment.
Speaker 1: Your support system is everything. Mm hmmm. I feel like
Speaker 1: I have a an incredible support system. I remember, and
Speaker 1: I know you remember this too, but I was scared
Speaker 1: to have two kids because I was thinking I would
Speaker 1: always be home. Um. But the thing that I I'd say,
Speaker 1: a tough time. I mean it's been several, it's been several,
Speaker 1: but finding and navigating my way through it the best
Speaker 1: support system. That's one. And then too, the same way
Speaker 1: I was talking myself out of stuff, I had to
Speaker 1: learn how to talk myself into it too, even when
Speaker 1: I was like I remember talking to one girlfriend of
Speaker 1: mine Yoshka, and she said, you know, kl, sometimes you
Speaker 1: gotta fake it till you make it. She was like,
Speaker 1: if you're actually like telling yourself, you know, I'm not
Speaker 1: sure about this or I'm nervous about this idea or opportunity,
Speaker 1: like still talk yourself into it, even in the time
Speaker 1: where you're unsure about it, and you'll eventually get to
Speaker 1: your place to where you're like, oh, I didn't figure
Speaker 1: this out. You've actually figured it out along the way, absolutely,
Speaker 1: And I kept trying to tell myself like I'm smarter
Speaker 1: than I thought. So I guess give a good example
Speaker 1: of talking yourself out of something is it could be
Speaker 1: a deal comes your way or an opportunity. Basically an
Speaker 1: opportunity comes your way, and before you know what, you're
Speaker 1: telling yourself why you can't do it, why you're not qualified,
Speaker 1: why you're not good enough, Like does anybody really want?
Speaker 1: Nobody wants to see that? You think fear is also
Speaker 1: the root of that. I think fear's also the root
Speaker 1: of that procrastination is all. And whoever told you that
Speaker 1: you whoever it's also possibly planted that seed a bit,
Speaker 1: that's the root of that mess too. Yeah, you know what,
Speaker 1: I mean um, but yeah, I remember something coming through
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, I'm just gonna see if
Speaker 1: they call me. Why am I gonna see if they're
Speaker 1: gonna call me? They already said they were interested in
Speaker 1: something or they were excited about seeing where I take
Speaker 1: this next. So just set it all up, fish and
Speaker 1: do the work. That's another thing, like doing the work.
Speaker 1: Doing Doing the work is sometimes a whole lot. I
Speaker 1: don't want to do the work, but you gotta be
Speaker 1: down to do the work. You definitely have to do
Speaker 1: the work. And fear is so huge. I don't care
Speaker 1: what walk of life you come from. I don't care
Speaker 1: what socio economic background you come from. I think so
Speaker 1: many people deal with fear, but it's just something you
Speaker 1: have to conquer. I guess it's a natural and legitimate
Speaker 1: response sometimes, but when it's when it gets in the
Speaker 1: way of your livelihood, then it's like, now we want
Speaker 1: to get into counseling or something. And I know you
Speaker 1: believe in therapy. I do. Sometimes somebody was just laughing
Speaker 1: at me because they're like, Kelly, just because that happened,
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean there's some sort of psychological statement or
Speaker 1: whatever behind it. I'm like, yes, there it is, but
Speaker 1: there's always a route psychologically with this. But like, no,
Speaker 1: Titan just wanted a gummy bear exactly, you know, you
Speaker 1: know is over here, not like he just just did.
Speaker 1: He just wanted a gummy bear. We don't have to
Speaker 1: cycloanalyze that. So we are now into one. We are
Speaker 1: still having to wear masks um parts of the country,
Speaker 1: specifically California. I can't recall. I haven't seen y'all's latest
Speaker 1: updates as far as lockdown is concerned, and it's really
Speaker 1: weighing on some people right What can you say to
Speaker 1: someone right now that's feeling like they want to give
Speaker 1: up because during this time they've dealt with some loss.
Speaker 1: I know, it's really yeah it I just feel like,
Speaker 1: if God woke you up this morning, or if you
Speaker 1: just got up this morning, you know your journey, you're
Speaker 1: not done with whatever great thing it is you thought
Speaker 1: of yet or are I feel like you're just not
Speaker 1: done yet and you have to figure out what that
Speaker 1: is to help you get through. I always think like,
Speaker 1: if I'm giving another opportunity to see another day, I'm
Speaker 1: obviously given a responsibility to do something. What is that?
Speaker 1: M M? But I'm oh, gosh, Yeah, you're just not done.
Speaker 1: Don't count yourself out for sure, and that there is more. Yes,
Speaker 1: like you said, when you woke up this morning, you're
Speaker 1: living your breathing and let's be a good steward of
Speaker 1: that time. Now. Of course, once again, I'm big into
Speaker 1: what a natural or legitimate responses. So being sad about
Speaker 1: loss of a love doing, loss of a job, or
Speaker 1: the pandemic, that's a natural, legitimate response to loss. Like
Speaker 1: you said, you know, you woke up this morning, and
Speaker 1: maybe sometimes a loss can propel you into you really
Speaker 1: live in your dreams because maybe you didn't like that
Speaker 1: job anyway. Yeah, that's true. You know, so you were
Speaker 1: forced into entrepreneurship, and then that entrepreneurship leads you into
Speaker 1: your first six figures, which then leads you into your
Speaker 1: seven figures. Yeah, so I think it's perspective. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: didn't even answer the actually the second part to your question,
Speaker 1: as far as like the loss is concerned, loss is
Speaker 1: who Loss is definitely a tricky one for me because
Speaker 1: I will say, if I do lose something I know
Speaker 1: I tried to me personally, I try throughout how to
Speaker 1: get out of that funk quick because I don't want
Speaker 1: to stay there. I don't like the way it feels.
Speaker 1: What are some of the things you do? Because maybe
Speaker 1: somebody's like, okay, WELLO, Kelly's in a funk. How does
Speaker 1: she get out of it? I can sometimes spake until
Speaker 1: I make it. I did that when I lost my mother. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that when I lost my mother. But like
Speaker 1: I said, I also had a support system. I'm really
Speaker 1: grateful for the support system. Think about how quick y'all
Speaker 1: were there, you know what I mean? It was like
Speaker 1: I lost her. I went to the a. Y'all were
Speaker 1: right there with me. You Angie solo be like ya
Speaker 1: were right there with me, dropped everything so and above
Speaker 1: anything like I don't know, Like I'm really grateful. Like Tim,
Speaker 1: Tim is my g Like he's a real good like
Speaker 1: honest like even sometimes when I don't want to hear it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he won't let you stay down too long. He won't
Speaker 1: let you stay down at all. It's like, bro, blood
Speaker 1: is gushing out of my toe. It's all right, You've
Speaker 1: got nine other ones those and I guarantee you like
Speaker 1: at least like five simple powers. I promise you, I
Speaker 1: promise you. But it's good to have that because then
Speaker 1: you can't get caught up in your own stuff. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I'm really grateful for my support system, but yeah
Speaker 1: I have to I don't like to be in that
Speaker 1: bunk for long. Yeah, but you let you, you allow yourself,
Speaker 1: allow myself. Yeah that's good, but you have to feel it,
Speaker 1: because if you don't feel it, you still aren't doing
Speaker 1: the healing on the way you know as it. But
Speaker 1: I allow myself to feel it, but I don't want
Speaker 1: to stay there long. Yeah, I get it, but you're
Speaker 1: also encouraging the person. So it's like, okay, you can
Speaker 1: feel it, feel the feeling, acknowledge it, but don't let
Speaker 1: it keep you down too long, you know, because one
Speaker 1: day can turn into one week, one week turns into
Speaker 1: a month, one month can turn into one year, and
Speaker 1: you are still stuck and paralyzed from that same thing,
Speaker 1: if not even more stuck, because then you're like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I wasted a year and that's just building
Speaker 1: on what's already there. Yeah, shame and regret. If I
Speaker 1: would have did this, I should have done this, I
Speaker 1: would have. Yeah, you're right, So it's doing doing what
Speaker 1: you can to get up out of that funk and
Speaker 1: to get up out of that pit as quick as
Speaker 1: you can. Because listen, y'all, y'all gotta get up as
Speaker 1: quick as I fail. Okay, you got you? Come on,
Speaker 1: get right and get back up into the get back
Speaker 1: into the routine. Okay, all right, all right. I don't
Speaker 1: think they I don't think they got that. I said
Speaker 1: you gotta get I said you gotta get up as
Speaker 1: quick as I fail. You know what, you gotta stop
Speaker 1: love you And because we are so crazy, people probably
Speaker 1: want to know. Okay, Cally, Michelle, this is sounding cute,
Speaker 1: This is sounding maybe even a little safe. Yes, you
Speaker 1: touched on music, you touched on motherhood, you even shared
Speaker 1: some moments with us about loss. But we want to
Speaker 1: get into some relationships. Shenanigans, y'all. Kelly gives some of
Speaker 1: the best advice as it relates to relationships. She'd be
Speaker 1: telling you, like, you gotta know who you are. You
Speaker 1: too fly to be sitting around you the prize. But
Speaker 1: you have been in a marriage. Tell us how many
Speaker 1: years you've been married them? How long we've been married?
Speaker 1: Coming up on Noah's seven that's a good number, what baby, Yes,
Speaker 1: seven years, that's a good number. Now, most of the time.
Speaker 1: It's the woman that says we've been married six six years,
Speaker 1: seven months, nineteen seconds that I'm like, wait a second,
Speaker 1: oh gosh, yeah, seven years. Wow. I want us to
Speaker 1: talk to the ladies about our worth. Yes, come on,
Speaker 1: because sometimes we don't know how much worth and power
Speaker 1: we have. Love to the men, but this is my
Speaker 1: sister right here, And I think people want to get
Speaker 1: an insight of maybe a moment that you might be
Speaker 1: talking to your girlfriend. Just give us a moment where
Speaker 1: you might be talking to someone and you're in the
Speaker 1: circle about herself worth. What do I say? I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's been married for seven years. You got him and
Speaker 1: you snagged him and you kept them seven years. You
Speaker 1: got him, Yes, Tim, but you know you. I think
Speaker 1: you got to be patient with each other. I mean,
Speaker 1: Tim is really patient with me. I'm no walk in
Speaker 1: the park. I know that. I know that I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not a walk in the park at all. I'm
Speaker 1: a good catch, but so is he. Come on, um,
Speaker 1: I'm a good catch, but so is he. And now
Speaker 1: you said something thing, because we've heard this thing. I'm
Speaker 1: the prize. I'm the prize. Are you acknowledging that no,
Speaker 1: he's he is too. Yes, Oh no, he's definitely the
Speaker 1: prize too. Like two, I'm the prize first, but he's
Speaker 1: the prize too, got it, got it? Listen, I think, Um,
Speaker 1: this has been amazing, so much fun. You guys, please
Speaker 1: please get into Kelly's new EP entitled k Um Flowers,
Speaker 1: hit Man, Crazy Better, There's more. I am just so
Speaker 1: happy that you joined me to today, that you checked
Speaker 1: in with us, this audience. We love you. I love you.
Speaker 1: I love you guys, Thank you so much, and I'm
Speaker 1: so proud of you. Look at what you're doing, my
Speaker 1: g listen. Oh necessary checking in, It's so necessary. And
Speaker 1: I'm so excited for everybody that's going to be blessed
Speaker 1: from this podcast. It's gonna get them some gems from
Speaker 1: this podcast period, because you are more than wise and
Speaker 1: more than amazing. And I'm just so grateful for you
Speaker 1: with my sister, I'm grateful for you to this journey
Speaker 1: has been awesome. This podcast journey has been awesome as well.
Speaker 1: Such a variety and so many inspiring They each are
Speaker 1: so different, and you brought something fresh, unique and inspiring
Speaker 1: to us. You taught us to invest in ourselves. That's
Speaker 1: my takeaway investing you man, alright, since you better going on,
Speaker 1: because I'm sure Noah is probably somewhere turning that head
Speaker 1: over looking to be fed. I love you, I'll see
Speaker 1: you later, all right, y'all. Bye. While just when you
Speaker 1: think you know someone, they kinda dropped something on you
Speaker 1: that you probably didn't know they were dealing with, or
Speaker 1: maybe you sensed it, but especially when it's somebody you
Speaker 1: know but you like, no, they're gonna work through this,
Speaker 1: They're gonna process this. And I hope that you guys
Speaker 1: are encouraged because some people that you think you know
Speaker 1: are so brave, they are dealing with some fear as well.
Speaker 1: But I think it's really about overcoming those fears, facing
Speaker 1: those fears, and what Kelly also said, especially for this
Speaker 1: new age of artists and entertainers coming up, you have
Speaker 1: to invest in yourself because if you don't invest in yourself,
Speaker 1: people might not take you seriously. They might not even
Speaker 1: want to deal with you, because you can tell when
Speaker 1: somebody is taking their craft seriously versus somebody that just
Speaker 1: just wakes up in the morning and thinks that everything
Speaker 1: is supposed to come to them. Kelly paid for her
Speaker 1: music out of her own coin and all let I remember,
Speaker 1: like you guys, hurt, she's been doing this EP for
Speaker 1: six years and she has hundreds of songs and I'm
Speaker 1: hoping she releases some of that music, but to know
Speaker 1: for six years and how much that probably costs. And
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you have to go and do the
Speaker 1: same thing, because people's incomes are different and you might
Speaker 1: have different worries and different challenges. You know, there are
Speaker 1: some people who are worried about putting food on the
Speaker 1: table right now, so just know that I totally understand that.
Speaker 1: But when it comes to your purpose, there are some
Speaker 1: entrepreneurs out there. You know. I think you will look
Speaker 1: back when you start winning. You'll know your start winning
Speaker 1: because of some of the investments that you made in yourself.
Speaker 1: And don't listen to any naysayers. Just stay focused. Kelly
Speaker 1: has kept herself focused on herself, her family, and her
Speaker 1: marriage and her music, and she's winning. So I hope
Speaker 1: you guys really really enjoyed this episode as much as
Speaker 1: I enjoyed bringing this to you. Thank you for checking in.
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