WEBVTT - Checking In w/ Kelly Rowland 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.920 Welcome to Checking In with Michelle Williams, a production of 0:00:03.000 --> 0:00:18.280 My Heart Radio and The Black Effect. Yeah, there's not 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:22.560 many times where I get to feel so relaxed when 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:25.279 I'm doing an interview, especially when you know the person 0:00:25.320 --> 0:00:27.479 that you're gonna talk to is somebody that you've talked 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:30.840 to all the time. But at the same time, there's 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:34.400 a little nerves because you don't want to come across 0:00:35.000 --> 0:00:37.760 you know, just too casual and just kind of like 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:40.320 you don't honor them. But I'm so excited about this 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:46.239 episode because my next guest conquered so much being in 0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:48.960 one of the most successful girl groups of all time, 0:00:49.440 --> 0:00:55.160 but still maintaining an amazing, illustrious solo career. She's a 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:58.040 wife and mother, and I don't know how she balances it, 0:00:58.280 --> 0:01:00.440 but we're gonna talk about all of that today. We're 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:04.240 also going to talk about her overcoming some fears right 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:36.280 here on Checking In with Michelle Williams. Y'all, I'm so 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:40.840 excited someone dear and close to me is checking in. 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:45.039 She really needs no introduction, but she is a Grammy 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:51.840 Award winning artist, beautiful actress, keeps inspiring us and keeps 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:58.120 bringing us amazing movies. During the Christmas holidays. She has 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:01.760 an amazing EP out right. Now, okay, y'all, let me 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:07.120 stop acting like this. Ain't my sister, y'all? Kelly Rowland 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:16.440 is checking in, Hi, sister, my sister. Listen, I could 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:19.760 go and give like your full twenty six year resume. 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:24.839 Speaking of twenty six didn't I just read somewhere it's 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:30.480 been twenty three years we released Survivor, Right, it hasn't 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:33.560 been twenty three years. No, I thought it was wasn't no, no, no, 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:37.440 the writings on the wall twenty three years. I just 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:40.919 saw something that said twenty three years, twenty three years, 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:45.440 and then it's been how long for? But somebody just 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:48.280 brought up Survivor to me too. Yeah, Survivor. I think 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:52.240 it's twenty one or twenty listen, but we still fly, 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:56.760 you so fly, It's still it's still all good. Well, 0:02:56.800 --> 0:02:59.080 all I know is that I have you here to 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:02.359 talk about a number of things. But you just put 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:08.600 out some new music called K. Yeah, and why did 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:13.560 you decide to just go by K? You know what, 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:17.680 I really wanted to put the record out, and we 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:20.200 were all thinking about what what am I going to 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:23.160 title the record? I said at this point, I just 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:26.360 want to put it out, you know. Yeah, so I said, 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:28.400 let's put a K on it and call it a 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:32.160 day today. Yeah yeah, But you know, I thought it 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:35.080 was so cool because I don't know if people know 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:39.440 what an e p K is, right, It's kind of 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:43.280 like this this visual sizzle of work, or when you're 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:46.520 about to put out an album or a book or something, 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:49.080 you kind of sit down and you're telling people what 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:52.920 it's about. Is your e p K kind of your 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:55.680 life story in this amount of song, Not your life story, 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:58.800 but just your season of life. This particular season of life. 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:01.640 I would definitely say is this season of life? You 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:04.840 know one? I mean, it took six years to record this, 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:09.320 this record, which I was I feel like I've talked 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:11.720 your ear off about you know what I mean before 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:15.560 before this, and it took a long time for me. 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:18.880 It really meant a lot to me to findis yeah. Yeah. 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:21.560 I feel like because of what we did with all 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:24.560 of our tempo with songs when you see, I just 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:28.520 really wanted to have a moment where the music felt alive, 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:32.360 you know, with the horns and the drums and you know, 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:35.280 this feeling of a little bit of afrobeats thrown in 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:39.160 a little nostalgia of crazy and disco and what that 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:42.560 felt like. It feels like so I just it got 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:45.479 me really excited when I started to hear them. I'm sorry, No, 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:47.679 it just feels like being all up in our interview. 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:50.480 It's all right. No. I wanted to contribute, you know, 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:53.720 so I just really want to temple this record. And 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:57.400 when it came to the the slower songs, you know 0:04:57.560 --> 0:05:00.040 a little bit of more of the down tempo, that 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:02.599 it just felt like a vibe you know, I was 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:06.920 all going off a vibe. Better is my favorite song 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:10.680 on the album, on the on the EP, Yeah, it's 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:16.640 my favorite. Yeah, it is my favorite UM for me. Yeah, 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:20.039 everything is beautiful. The visuals that you put out have 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:28.039 been absolutely incredible. We saw flowers and you kind of 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:31.040 did you get a little choked up on the end? 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:35.479 Did Yeah? And what does flowers mean for you? I 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:38.120 mean flowers? Well, I'll just tell you the first time 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:43.839 I heard flowers, and it was really you know, moving 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:46.640 for me, because you know, between me and my mom 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:49.359 made me think of all the things that I wanted 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:54.440 to tell her. We've had these conversations. So I thought 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:57.520 about something that she probably like really needed to hear, 0:05:58.200 --> 0:06:01.120 and um, you know, I just told her just you know, 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:05.200 openly in in my space. But it felt really good 0:06:05.240 --> 0:06:07.359 to get it out. I feel like Flowers for me 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:11.320 was cathartic, you know. Yeah, yeah, I mean it was. 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:18.360 It's absolutely beautiful. You sound amazing the video. I know 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:21.400 y'all have seen the video for Flowers already. Give us 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:25.000 just a sneak peek of or some insight on the 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:29.120 direction of the video for Flowers. Yeah, the video for Flowers. 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:32.080 When I recorded the song, it felt like there was 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:36.040 other some it was. It was another feeling in the 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:39.800 room with myself and the engineer while I recorded the song. 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:43.279 The way I performed it in the video, and the 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:45.720 way you see those other bodies in there, how they 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:48.160 come from underneath the sheets and then you can feel 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:52.279 their friends. That's that's what I really felt in the 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:55.479 room while I was recording it. So it's that feeling 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:58.400 and then having this moment of like transcendence where you 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:01.480 actually let all those things that for me, all those 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:03.520 things that I wanted to say, I just let them go, 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:08.040 you know. Yeah. I like the color on like all 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:10.560 the color means a lot to me. Because I just 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:13.880 feel like color is always significant. But I have not 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:18.520 seen anything, you know, in in draft, which is what 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:20.960 I said. It would be easy to go to black, 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:23.320 but I still wanted there to be some color. Oh 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:29.480 that red was powerful. It's definitely definitely powerful. Now why 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:33.000 six years? And this is a twofold Why six years? 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:38.400 I'll let you answer that before I asked that next question. Um, 0:07:38.480 --> 0:07:40.640 I think some of it. I mean, I can be 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:42.880 honest with you. I think some of it was fear. 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:46.720 I think some of it was, you know, going into 0:07:46.960 --> 0:07:51.600 a new you know, a new Uh. The industry has 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:55.240 changed a lot since sorry, since the two thousand's where 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:58.880 we were releasing music and the way it's presented, the 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:03.640 way it's marketed, everything is just so different. And for me, 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:08.480 I was definitely feeling like I've been here a long time. 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:11.840 I was just trying to think of like, well, what 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:14.960 do what is everybody listening to? At first I was 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:17.440 about to conform, and then I was like, I'm not 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:20.680 trying to conform. You know know, you set the trends, 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:23.520 You're a trend setter. Well, thank you, don't never forget. 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:27.760 And I feel like, especially coming from d C, once again, 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:31.200 I couldn't conform, and I had to think of something 0:08:31.240 --> 0:08:36.120 else that made me feel alive. And for the I 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:40.800 honestly say, I really didn't care what anyone else thought 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:45.200 or anything you said. One of the reasons was fear. 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:48.640 How did you get over the fear of putting out music? 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:51.400 And people will be surprised. On this podcast is called 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:54.360 checking in And you had to check in with yourself 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:57.559 to even be able to even say it was fear, 0:08:57.840 --> 0:09:00.559 And for you to even admit that on this platform 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:04.120 that it was fear, I'm sure listeners want to know. 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:07.720 So Kelly Rolling had fear, well, how did she get 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:11.000 over the fear? Yeah? For me, mine was trial and 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:16.920 error with sound. I feel like going into these different 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:19.680 sessions and I was just trying to think, like what 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:21.640 do I want? What I wanted to feel like, I 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:26.080 would write everything down. Then once I wrote, like all 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:29.200 everything down, it was that I really was looking for 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:34.839 in the music. It was it was everything that I 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:38.480 wasn't hearing, if that makes any sense. I felt like 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:42.480 I was going a little I was driving myself a 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:46.120 little crazy. To be honest, Everything that I wrote down 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:48.679 didn't sound like anything that was on the radio. And 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:51.960 then I had this moment where I said, don't chase radio. 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:55.080 You know it's it's you don't have to chase radio. 0:09:55.240 --> 0:10:01.960 Just enjoy creating. And I lost in creating. And when 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:04.720 I got lost in creating, it was almost like the 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:07.600 sound was being given to me, because like it was 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:11.480 like once I got black Magic, after black Magic a week, 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:15.960 a week, two weeks later came hit Man after hit Man, 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:20.160 um hit Man, hit Man, hits by the way, yeah 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:24.760 that's another one too. But after hit Man, I found Crazy. 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:28.600 So it's like they came in in a yeah, in three. 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:31.079 So I was really happy. And then I got in 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:34.480 the studio with Jeff, Jeff Giddy and Nazaarie and just 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:36.839 things just started to kind of come together and I 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:39.560 was like, oh, this is it. Like I felt, I 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:42.200 felt it almost being done. But the fear for me 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:46.800 was just actually trying things out and not being afraid 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:51.720 to try. So of six years of recording music, that 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:55.640 means you've got a lot of music recorded, and there 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:59.559 is music that is on this EP. Well there's music 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:02.840 that is not on this EP, songs that I know 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:07.600 you record it. And so I'm like those songs that 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:11.679 we've heard too when coming I know you. I know, 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:15.320 you just put k out so you have an arsenal 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:19.000 of music, which actually is a good thing because you've 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:24.120 already got stuff recorded. Yeah, I do, but it wasn't right. 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:28.319 So mean, it wasn't right for this time, or not 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:31.000 right to put out. It wasn't right for this time. 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:33.120 Remember the song that I sent you when I said, 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:36.880 what do you think about y'all? It's amazing. It's very theatrical, 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:39.920 that's all I'm gonna say. Go ahead, and I still 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:43.000 love that song, but it's not the right timing for 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:46.000 it now. And y'all, when I say theatrical, I mean 0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:49.120 the emotion and the storytelling. It's not it's not a 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:54.360 jazz hands song, Okay, it's, but it's definitely the story 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:57.320 in it. So I guess I'm just getting people excited 0:11:57.360 --> 0:12:01.320 for the music now, but I'm also making anticipate y'all, 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:05.240 Kelly got a lot of music over these six years 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:09.400 that they're gonna make you put out. Some folks gonna 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:13.040 go searching for this music. I mean, you invested a 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:18.240 lot in yourself this time around, and I think people 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:21.880 need to know, like record deals are different, the industry 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:25.360 is different. You gotta bet on yourself and invest in 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:29.720 yourself and not wait on anybody to hand you anything. 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:35.319 I saw you take control literally of even your recording process. 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:38.880 Did that help you get over the fear and like, yo, 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:43.200 I'm a boss because you paid for this out your pocket. Yes, 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:47.360 And there was no time to waste the same because 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:51.479 time is money and money is time. So just be lolligagging. 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:54.280 And I say that I lolligag before, but I will 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:56.160 say I felt like I could take a little bit 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:58.880 more time. But you know, I was in the studio 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:03.400 at home to you know, being able to um collaborate 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:07.160 with other artists and writers and producers in the studio. 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:09.959 But that took you know, that was my own money. 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:12.960 I spent a lot of my own money m and 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:17.360 it I will say, it's definitely worth it, because if 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:19.720 you're gonna bet on anybody, you gotta bet on yourself. 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:24.280 You got to bet on yourself. And what a beautiful 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:27.920 investment that you made and that you made it in yourself. 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:30.480 And so this is just to encourage people. Don't wait 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:34.040 on anybody, even if you got to put two dollars 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:36.240 to the side, fifty dollars to the side every week 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:39.840 or every month until you can get that product to 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:42.040 the way you wanted to be and invest in yourself 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:45.520 because people look at you differently when you've definitely invested 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:48.800 in yourself. You've also taken a risk in putting music 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:53.880 out during the pandemic. When we can't see you, we 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:57.040 can't touch you. Right now, you'd be going on a 0:13:57.120 --> 0:14:00.000 radio tour or some type of arena tour right now 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:04.679 out or some intimate space to touch fans. What I 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:08.000 do know about Kelly Rowland, she wants to touch the 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:12.920 fans physically and see you. How was that even the 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:15.839 decision to put music out right now during this pandemic, 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:21.760 It was really still a hard decision because you can't 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:26.640 go anywhere really to promote. But everything so different now, 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:30.920 someone would still are Actually someone just argued me back 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:34.320 on that specific point. They were like, that's not true. 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:36.800 You know, you have the power of social media and 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:42.880 so widespread now when you know you can easily call 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:44.760 you and you know that this is gonna not just 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:47.880 be here in the States, is gonna go international, you know, 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:50.760 because simply of who you are and your star power 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:54.280 is alway's like it's it's I don't I don't feel 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:59.880 like a bad idea. I do miss the performances, though, Yeah, 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:04.200 change up the way you're performing the music, because performing 0:15:04.240 --> 0:15:07.240 the music is what you definitely care about as well. 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:11.360 And I'm like thinking to myself, like today, how am 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:14.640 I going to, you know, get these performances out because 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:17.120 I want to perform Flowers. I want to perform here. Yes, 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:21.000 come on, I want to perform all these records and 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:25.239 have everyone see my point of view and perspective artistically 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:28.200 on these songs because I've seen what the performances look 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:31.680 like in my dreams, so they have to be they will, 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:35.440 and they will. I believe in what you declare will be. 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:37.520 So if you want to perform these songs the way 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:40.000 you saw them in your dreams, then that's just what 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:42.880 we're gonna go with. Then we are excited to see that. 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:46.800 I feel like we um come from an era of 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:51.520 performances and performing and so definitely missing that. But there 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:54.560 is an advantage to putting new music out this way 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:59.480 because there's a whole world of consumers out there that 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:03.360 you can touch, who this may be their first time 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:07.120 buying a Kelly Roland album simply because everyone is home. 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:12.640 It's on the front page of every music outlet right now, 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:16.360 which I'm always so proud to see speaking of as 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:19.160 far as you know. I know we said putting music 0:16:19.160 --> 0:16:22.360 out during the pandemic, but everybody has been kind of 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:27.200 having to make some adjustments and alterations right now. For you, 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:31.680 since how have you been handling yourself in the pandemic? Personally? 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:35.480 I remember thinking to myself like, oh, this is only 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:39.720 gonna last maybe for the next couple of months, and 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:43.160 when it's just getting longer and longer, and then you 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:46.720 realize it's nothing you can really do. You have no 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:50.240 control over it. Can't really be upset, you know too upset. 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:53.120 You just have to find your space in it and 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:55.720 your why in it. And you know what am I 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:59.800 supposed to be doing in this time? I thought about 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:03.280 that at and Um I was able to spend more 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:07.919 time with Tim and Titan and not be able to 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:13.000 really move and get to know Titans even love language 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:17.280 like play is his love language, you know what I mean. 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:19.520 So that's something I was able to learn about him. 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:25.119 And you know, then here comes Noah, Well, since you 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:27.400 said it, you said you were able to spend more 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:32.680 time with tim Um Tim is her husband, and what 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:37.760 we do know during the pandemic. Something was definitely going 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:45.440 down um in them shoots um and we have Noah, Yes, 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:49.159 we have no come on. So that when I was like, 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:52.040 how have you been handling yourself in the pandemic? Y'all 0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:55.920 this is a family show, but we DEVI do you 0:17:56.040 --> 0:18:00.600 know baby is going through listen and Noah is here. 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:03.919 We are so excited for you. This is an exciting 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:07.560 year for you. Yeah, I'm really I'm really grateful. I 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:10.679 saw authority this year, a new baby this year, a 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:14.520 new album this year, and I'm I'm just really in 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:20.479 the space of gratitude. Yes, absolutely, because it's been twenty 0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:25.000 years plus that you have been in the industry. Are 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:29.119 you still passionate like you were or has it grown 0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:33.800 even more well, I'd definitely say I'm still passionate. I'd 0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:37.520 still love being in the studio. I still love trying 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:41.280 out new sounds. I still love learning new things. I 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:44.600 like trying new things now, you know, with even my 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:48.040 project that I did with a Lifetime with Mary little Like, 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:51.360 I love executive producing getting the opportunity to do that. 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:54.560 So yeah, I still love it. And I guess when 0:18:54.600 --> 0:18:59.359 you're delving into new um projects, even executive producing. I 0:18:59.359 --> 0:19:01.880 think that could be another way for passions to grow, 0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:06.040 or even to discover passions or discover areas where like, 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:09.080 oh man, I'm great in that too. I can develop movies, 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:12.760 I can develop different type of shows and performances. So 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:16.480 I'm definitely excited about your girls. I think everybody is. 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:19.960 And to see, Okay, she's just not Kelly Rolling the singer. 0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:22.879 I mean, you blessed us. You've been on a judge 0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:28.840 on American Idol, The Voice Australia executive producing movies, starring 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:32.199 in the movies. Is there anything you cannot do? You 0:19:32.240 --> 0:19:36.439 know what, that's a real question. There is something I 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:38.880 can't do. And she's gonna master that and learn that 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:42.280 a you know, Tim just heard you do that, and 0:19:42.359 --> 0:19:47.439 he just gave you a whole snap. He gave you 0:19:47.480 --> 0:19:51.119 a clap, super clap. Y'all. Listen, Tim, say hello to 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:58.240 the people right quick and say hello, baby. Wouldn't we 0:19:58.520 --> 0:20:03.320 would know if we w is it? If I met you? Y'all? 0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:06.560 This is listen. When you're interviewing family, anything is bound 0:20:06.600 --> 0:20:09.800 to happen. Y'all. Heard Noah cooling in the background, ever 0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:13.800 so sweetly, Tim just came and said hello to you guys, 0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:17.600 which he rarely, ever, ever, ever does, so thank you 0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:21.880 for joining us. UM, I definitely want to ask you. 0:20:21.880 --> 0:20:25.440 You mentioned fear or feeling like do I have to 0:20:25.520 --> 0:20:30.280 chase radio? Are there any difficult moments that you reflect on? 0:20:30.320 --> 0:20:32.320 I just want to kind of pivot a little bit 0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:37.520 to any viewers who are excited about music, who are excited. 0:20:38.040 --> 0:20:42.080 You know, you turned forty, you have two children now, 0:20:42.280 --> 0:20:46.840 a thriving marriage and music career. I want to pivot 0:20:46.880 --> 0:20:50.480 to any difficult moments that you reflect on, if there's 0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:54.760 anything specific and how you made it through a low moment. 0:20:55.280 --> 0:20:59.119 Your support system is everything. Mm hmmm. I feel like 0:20:59.160 --> 0:21:03.199 I have a an incredible support system. I remember, and 0:21:03.240 --> 0:21:06.600 I know you remember this too, but I was scared 0:21:06.840 --> 0:21:10.480 to have two kids because I was thinking I would 0:21:10.520 --> 0:21:15.360 always be home. Um. But the thing that I I'd say, 0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:21.880 a tough time. I mean it's been several, it's been several, 0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:26.720 but finding and navigating my way through it the best 0:21:26.760 --> 0:21:31.920 support system. That's one. And then too, the same way 0:21:31.960 --> 0:21:35.040 I was talking myself out of stuff, I had to 0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:38.720 learn how to talk myself into it too, even when 0:21:38.720 --> 0:21:41.800 I was like I remember talking to one girlfriend of 0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:44.680 mine Yoshka, and she said, you know, kl, sometimes you 0:21:44.720 --> 0:21:47.800 gotta fake it till you make it. She was like, 0:21:47.880 --> 0:21:51.840 if you're actually like telling yourself, you know, I'm not 0:21:51.920 --> 0:21:55.640 sure about this or I'm nervous about this idea or opportunity, 0:21:56.119 --> 0:21:58.920 like still talk yourself into it, even in the time 0:21:58.920 --> 0:22:02.919 where you're unsure about it, and you'll eventually get to 0:22:02.960 --> 0:22:05.359 your place to where you're like, oh, I didn't figure 0:22:05.400 --> 0:22:09.520 this out. You've actually figured it out along the way, absolutely, 0:22:10.080 --> 0:22:13.479 And I kept trying to tell myself like I'm smarter 0:22:13.800 --> 0:22:17.600 than I thought. So I guess give a good example 0:22:17.640 --> 0:22:19.840 of talking yourself out of something is it could be 0:22:19.960 --> 0:22:22.720 a deal comes your way or an opportunity. Basically an 0:22:22.760 --> 0:22:26.040 opportunity comes your way, and before you know what, you're 0:22:26.040 --> 0:22:29.280 telling yourself why you can't do it, why you're not qualified, 0:22:29.320 --> 0:22:33.480 why you're not good enough, Like does anybody really want? 0:22:33.680 --> 0:22:36.920 Nobody wants to see that? You think fear is also 0:22:36.960 --> 0:22:39.480 the root of that. I think fear's also the root 0:22:39.520 --> 0:22:42.959 of that procrastination is all. And whoever told you that 0:22:43.040 --> 0:22:46.880 you whoever it's also possibly planted that seed a bit, 0:22:47.680 --> 0:22:50.439 that's the root of that mess too. Yeah, you know what, 0:22:50.480 --> 0:22:54.040 I mean um, but yeah, I remember something coming through 0:22:54.160 --> 0:22:57.800 and I was like, oh, I'm just gonna see if 0:22:57.840 --> 0:23:00.440 they call me. Why am I gonna see if they're 0:23:00.440 --> 0:23:03.199 gonna call me? They already said they were interested in 0:23:03.280 --> 0:23:05.800 something or they were excited about seeing where I take 0:23:05.880 --> 0:23:10.280 this next. So just set it all up, fish and 0:23:10.320 --> 0:23:13.240 do the work. That's another thing, like doing the work. 0:23:14.600 --> 0:23:18.639 Doing Doing the work is sometimes a whole lot. I 0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:20.320 don't want to do the work, but you gotta be 0:23:20.359 --> 0:23:23.280 down to do the work. You definitely have to do 0:23:23.320 --> 0:23:27.600 the work. And fear is so huge. I don't care 0:23:27.720 --> 0:23:29.680 what walk of life you come from. I don't care 0:23:29.720 --> 0:23:32.960 what socio economic background you come from. I think so 0:23:33.000 --> 0:23:37.879 many people deal with fear, but it's just something you 0:23:37.920 --> 0:23:41.359 have to conquer. I guess it's a natural and legitimate 0:23:41.400 --> 0:23:45.000 response sometimes, but when it's when it gets in the 0:23:45.040 --> 0:23:48.520 way of your livelihood, then it's like, now we want 0:23:48.520 --> 0:23:51.600 to get into counseling or something. And I know you 0:23:51.720 --> 0:23:57.760 believe in therapy. I do. Sometimes somebody was just laughing 0:23:57.760 --> 0:24:00.359 at me because they're like, Kelly, just because that happened, 0:24:00.359 --> 0:24:04.359 that doesn't mean there's some sort of psychological statement or 0:24:04.480 --> 0:24:08.360 whatever behind it. I'm like, yes, there it is, but 0:24:08.520 --> 0:24:12.600 there's always a route psychologically with this. But like, no, 0:24:13.000 --> 0:24:20.000 Titan just wanted a gummy bear exactly, you know, you 0:24:20.080 --> 0:24:24.679 know is over here, not like he just just did. 0:24:24.800 --> 0:24:28.040 He just wanted a gummy bear. We don't have to 0:24:28.119 --> 0:24:32.840 cycloanalyze that. So we are now into one. We are 0:24:32.880 --> 0:24:35.960 still having to wear masks um parts of the country, 0:24:36.040 --> 0:24:40.320 specifically California. I can't recall. I haven't seen y'all's latest 0:24:40.400 --> 0:24:44.080 updates as far as lockdown is concerned, and it's really 0:24:44.119 --> 0:24:47.879 weighing on some people right What can you say to 0:24:48.000 --> 0:24:51.800 someone right now that's feeling like they want to give 0:24:51.880 --> 0:24:54.840 up because during this time they've dealt with some loss. 0:24:55.920 --> 0:25:01.879 I know, it's really yeah it I just feel like, 0:25:01.920 --> 0:25:04.399 if God woke you up this morning, or if you 0:25:04.520 --> 0:25:07.760 just got up this morning, you know your journey, you're 0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:13.399 not done with whatever great thing it is you thought 0:25:13.400 --> 0:25:17.840 of yet or are I feel like you're just not 0:25:17.880 --> 0:25:20.040 done yet and you have to figure out what that 0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:23.199 is to help you get through. I always think like, 0:25:23.280 --> 0:25:26.359 if I'm giving another opportunity to see another day, I'm 0:25:26.480 --> 0:25:30.800 obviously given a responsibility to do something. What is that? 0:25:31.320 --> 0:25:35.800 M M? But I'm oh, gosh, Yeah, you're just not done. 0:25:36.440 --> 0:25:41.760 Don't count yourself out for sure, and that there is more. Yes, 0:25:42.040 --> 0:25:44.160 like you said, when you woke up this morning, you're 0:25:44.240 --> 0:25:47.080 living your breathing and let's be a good steward of 0:25:47.119 --> 0:25:51.160