WEBVTT - Would You Consider a 3rd Party Candidate?

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<v Speaker 1>If you are voting in November coming up, I have

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<v Speaker 1>a question for you. Is there a chance that you

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<v Speaker 1>would not vote for Donald Trump and you would not

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<v Speaker 1>vote for Joe Biden. Is there a chance you would

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<v Speaker 1>vote for a third party candidate? Is there a chance

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<v Speaker 1>that you would vote for RFK Junior? Rfk Jor went

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<v Speaker 1>on CNN, and it has now gotten a lot more traction.

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<v Speaker 1>People are like, Wow, maybe I like RFK even more

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<v Speaker 1>because of the way he fought back on CNN. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>there was an article in The New York Times and

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<v Speaker 1>it said that rfk Jor could be a spoiler for

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats if too many Democrats defect from Joe Biden and

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<v Speaker 1>they go and vote for rfk Jor. Rfk Jor was

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<v Speaker 1>asked a question in CNN. I'm sure thought they knew

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<v Speaker 1>what he was going to say in response, is that

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump is obviously a massive threat to our democracy.

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<v Speaker 1>And he didn't take the bait, and then he fought

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<v Speaker 1>back with CNN, and CNN couldn't believe that he fought back.

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<v Speaker 1>He actually said, no, I don't think that Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>is a bigger threat to democracy. In fact, I think

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<v Speaker 1>President Joe Biden is the biggest threat to democracy.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, this made a lot of people's eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>Open to him. The question is was it more Republicans

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<v Speaker 1>or Democrats. I hope that it's not Republicans. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>it's democrats. But I want you to hear what he

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<v Speaker 1>just said, and I think there's a lot of truth

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<v Speaker 1>to what he said. And CNN couldn't believe that he

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<v Speaker 1>fought back this way and said what he actually did say,

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<v Speaker 1>which brings me back to the question, is there a

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<v Speaker 1>chance that you are going to vote for a third

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<v Speaker 1>party candidate.

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<v Speaker 2>Or do you say no? I understand to two man race,

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<v Speaker 2>take a listen.

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<v Speaker 3>Jeez.

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<v Speaker 4>While I admire his high minded ideals, his suggestion that

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<v Speaker 4>there is no difference between mister Warre and mister Bush

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<v Speaker 4>is irresponsible. A moment ago, you said, you essentially see

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<v Speaker 4>Trump and Biden is saying different different issues. But do

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<v Speaker 4>you really believe that when people talk about the threat

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<v Speaker 4>to democracy that Trump poses, do you really think that

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<v Speaker 4>that is an equal Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But by the way, I love how they just said that, like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, let's they Aaron Burnett CNN Prime Time says

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<v Speaker 1>that is like it's just everybody agrees, given fact that

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump is a threat to democracy. Like you notice

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<v Speaker 1>that te up there. That isn't a real journalistic question.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a what we call a loaded question. It

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<v Speaker 1>is a straight up loaded question.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep listening, listen.

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<v Speaker 5>I can make the argument President Biden is a much

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<v Speaker 5>worse threat to democracy. And the reason for that is

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<v Speaker 5>President Biden is the first candidate in history, the first

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<v Speaker 5>president in the history, that has used the federal agencies

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<v Speaker 5>to sensor political speech. So the sensor's opponent, I you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I can say that because I just want a case

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<v Speaker 5>in the Federal Court of Appeals now before the Supreme Court.

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<v Speaker 5>It shows that he started censoring not just me for

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<v Speaker 5>thirty seven hours after he took the other office, he

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<v Speaker 5>was censoring me. No president in the country has ever

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<v Speaker 5>done that. The greatest threat democracy is not somebody who

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<v Speaker 5>questions election returns, but a president of the United States

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<v Speaker 5>who used the power of his office to force the

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<v Speaker 5>social media company's Facebook, Instagram, Twitter to open a portal

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<v Speaker 5>and give the access to that portal to the FBI.

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<v Speaker 5>The CIA is the irs, Desia, the NIH to censor

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<v Speaker 5>his political critics. As in Biden, for the first first

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<v Speaker 5>president of history used the secret his power over the

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<v Speaker 5>secret Service to deny secret Service protection to one of

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<v Speaker 5>his political opponents for political reasons. He's weaponizing a federal agencies.

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<v Speaker 5>Those are really critical threats.

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<v Speaker 4>Tried to overturn a free and fair election. He tried

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<v Speaker 4>to overturn one. Right, is he still finding court? How

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<v Speaker 4>is that not a threat to democracy?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I think that is a threat to democracy. Him

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<v Speaker 5>of its we're trying to overthrow the election. Clearly is

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<v Speaker 5>the threat democracy. But the question was who is the

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<v Speaker 5>worse threat to democracy? And what I would say is,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I'm not going to answer that question, but

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<v Speaker 5>I can argue that President Biden is because the First Amendment, Aaron,

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<v Speaker 5>is the most important. But Adams and Hamilton and Madison said,

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<v Speaker 5>we put the guarantee of freedom expression in the First

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<v Speaker 5>Amendment because all of our other constitutional.

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<v Speaker 3>Rights depend on it.

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<v Speaker 5>If you have a government that can silence its opponent,

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<v Speaker 5>it has license for any atrocity.

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<v Speaker 4>So, just to be clear, you're saying you could make

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<v Speaker 4>an argument that President Biden is a worse threat to democracy.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you hear what he's saying there and CNN can't

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<v Speaker 1>believe it that they're in shock that he didn't take

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<v Speaker 1>their bait the way that they thought he was supposed to.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you go through the list, by the way

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<v Speaker 1>of what he just said, it's a pretty compactit argument

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<v Speaker 1>that Joe Biden, even for the liberals watching, is a

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<v Speaker 1>bigger threat to democracy than anybody else, and including Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump right now. I also think it's hilariouspiele say that

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump is a threat to democracy right if, and

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<v Speaker 1>they keep saying if he wins, if he wins, if

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<v Speaker 1>he wins, he is the biggest threat to democracy.

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<v Speaker 2>I fundamentally disagree with that.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason why is because he's already been president

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<v Speaker 1>of the United States of America and he was the

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<v Speaker 1>furthest thing from a threat to democracy.

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<v Speaker 2>He was the furthest.

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<v Speaker 1>Thing, furthest threat from democracy, a threat to democracy. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>he was one that was holding on to democracy, keeping

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<v Speaker 1>up democracy. The idea that he's like a threat is absurd.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not a threat to democracy, and he proved it

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<v Speaker 1>when he was Presidents of America for four years. Four years.

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<v Speaker 1>He proved it four different years. He proved it not

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<v Speaker 1>a threat to democracy. I'm a protector of democracy. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a defender of democracy. I am a champion of democracy,

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<v Speaker 1>not a threat to democracy. Democrats are now afraid that

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<v Speaker 1>Kennedy is going to take away votes, too many votes

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<v Speaker 1>from them, too many votes away from Joe Biden because

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<v Speaker 1>of some of the things he's said, including what I.

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<v Speaker 2>Just played for you.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't like what he had to say about Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 1>He said that Joe Biden was a bigger threat to

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<v Speaker 1>democracy by silencing and censoring his opponents. He won a

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<v Speaker 1>case in federal court on this issue, and he says

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<v Speaker 1>that's a bigger threat to democracy than Donald Trump ever was.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't like that, So what they do next? Immediately said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>hold on a second. Your family members don't even like you.

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<v Speaker 1>They're against you. Listen to this.

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<v Speaker 4>The candidacy that you're running has cost you a lot personally.

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<v Speaker 4>It has cost you. Siblings, family members have spoken against

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<v Speaker 4>what you're doing. They are angry, they're upset, they're hurt.

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<v Speaker 4>Your sister, Worri was on our show recently and she

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<v Speaker 4>spoke about it. JFK's grandson also posted on social media

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<v Speaker 4>overnight something I don't know if you saw it. I

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to play both of them.

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<v Speaker 6>I feel strongly that this is the most important election

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<v Speaker 6>of our lifetime, and I do worry that Bobby just

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<v Speaker 6>taking some percentage of votes from Biden could shift the

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<v Speaker 6>election and lead to Trump's selection.

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<v Speaker 3>He's training in on camelot, celebrity, conspiracy theories, and conflict

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<v Speaker 3>for personal gain and fame. I've listened to him, I

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<v Speaker 3>know him. I have no idea why anyone thinks he

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<v Speaker 3>should be president. What I do know is his candidacy

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<v Speaker 3>is an embarrassment.

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<v Speaker 4>That's your family. That's your family. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I have a big family, about one hundred and five

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<v Speaker 5>cousins on the last time, and I have siblings who

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<v Speaker 5>are supporting me. I have I have. I have cousins

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<v Speaker 5>and nephews and nieces who are working in my campaign.

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<v Speaker 5>My campaign is being run by my daughter in law,

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<v Speaker 5>you know by are. The political party that we started

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<v Speaker 5>is shared by my cousin, Anthony Shriver. Listen, Oh, I

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<v Speaker 5>have a big family. I don't know anybody in America

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<v Speaker 5>who's got a family who agrees with them on everything.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know if that's your situation, Aaron, if you

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<v Speaker 5>just have a family who believes everything you do is

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<v Speaker 5>you know, like unicorns and rainbows. But uh, for you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I would I come from a family from a milliu

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<v Speaker 5>where we came home at night and ate dinner with

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<v Speaker 5>my father, and he would orchestrate debates between us, and

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<v Speaker 5>we were in the same way that his father did

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<v Speaker 5>with him, and we could disagree on issues, and we

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<v Speaker 5>could disagree with passion and information, but we still love

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<v Speaker 5>each other. And I love Rory, I love my family.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel loved by them. Listen, I understand why they

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<v Speaker 5>don't like running. I understand. President Biden has been a

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<v Speaker 5>forty year friend to me and my family. He is

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<v Speaker 5>a bust of my father. Behind him on the Oval office.

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<v Speaker 5>He talked about how my father inspired him to enter politics.

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<v Speaker 5>There's five members of my family who work for the

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<v Speaker 5>Biden administration, So you know, I understand why they're dismayed

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<v Speaker 5>that I'm running against them. They're also worried that, you

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<v Speaker 5>know what my sister said that you know my candidates,

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<v Speaker 5>he may get Trump elected.

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<v Speaker 4>What it does, what happens if you wake up the

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<v Speaker 4>day after the election, we have results, and that is

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<v Speaker 4>what happened, Well, will you regret it?

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<v Speaker 5>What I what I said to you applies to that.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think either a President Trump or a president

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<v Speaker 5>but are going to solve the death crisis in this country,

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<v Speaker 5>which is existential. I don't think either of them are

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<v Speaker 5>going to get us out of foreign wars.

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<v Speaker 1>I love how scared they are right now. And again

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<v Speaker 1>I will continue to remind you, okay, I will continue

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<v Speaker 1>to remind you this guy is not a conservative, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to try to turn him into some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of conservative.

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<v Speaker 2>And why is the media trying to do this?

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<v Speaker 1>And you can tell in that interview like they're terrified

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<v Speaker 1>that they're gonna he's gonna take more votes from Biden

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<v Speaker 1>than he's going to take from Trump. And they've they've

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<v Speaker 1>witnessed this, they saw how Ross Parrot Ross Parrot. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people don't know the history. Ross Parrot hated

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<v Speaker 1>George Bush forty one over a land deal. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a land deal that went bad. A land deal, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>a land deal, and he said, you know what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not I don't. I don't think Ross pro actually wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to be president at all. I think he just wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to cost and he could do it, and he had

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<v Speaker 1>the money to do it. He wanted to cost George

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<v Speaker 1>Bush forty one the presidency. That was the ultimate middle finger,

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<v Speaker 1>the ultimate fu and he did it. He cost in

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<v Speaker 1>the presidency by running as a third party candidate, and

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Clinton would have never been president if it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>for Ross Parrot. And Ross Parrot knew exactly what he

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<v Speaker 1>was doing. You noticed Ross pro didn't even like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't trying to be famous, didn't want to be famous,

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<v Speaker 1>per se. Like when he got done running, did you

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<v Speaker 1>ever notice what happened when he got done running? He

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<v Speaker 1>was done, folks, Like when he got he wasn't out

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<v Speaker 1>there pontificating on politics.

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<v Speaker 2>After he was done.

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<v Speaker 1>He had cost somebody he hated, personally George Bush forty one,

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<v Speaker 1>the presidency and the Democratic Party remembers that spoilers can

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<v Speaker 1>change who wins. And so they're like, all right, what

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<v Speaker 1>do we do here? Okay, Like, like, what what do

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<v Speaker 1>we do here? How does this work? Is he gonna

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<v Speaker 1>cost Joe Biden the election? Is he going to take

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<v Speaker 1>votes away from Joe Biden? That's the big question they're asking.

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<v Speaker 1>RFK Junior now doing a big media tour pushing for

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<v Speaker 1>his candidacy for the White House. And I I said

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<v Speaker 1>this the other day on Fox News Channel when I

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<v Speaker 1>was hosting out Numbered, that look, I want to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that Republicans aren't bamboozled by RFK.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to make sure people know who he.

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<v Speaker 1>Is, that he's a radical leftist who is actually, I

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<v Speaker 1>think more extreme in his positions than Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's saying something.

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<v Speaker 1>Early on, there were people that I think thought that

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<v Speaker 1>RFK was a conservative because of his stance on COVID

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<v Speaker 1>vaccines and his stands on vaccines and mandates was one

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<v Speaker 1>that we could agree on. But the rest of his

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<v Speaker 1>policies are radical. How radical is RFK? I'll give you

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<v Speaker 1>an example. He believes the government should subsidize all housing

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<v Speaker 1>in this country, which would be the largest expansion in

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<v Speaker 1>government history. So if your interest rate is over three percent,

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<v Speaker 1>he believes that the government should pick up the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the percentage. So if you close on a house

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<v Speaker 1>and the interest rates at eight percent or nine percent

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<v Speaker 1>because you have bad credit, or ten percent or rates

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<v Speaker 1>just keep going up, he believes that you should actually

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<v Speaker 1>be subsidized by the federal government for thirty years on

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<v Speaker 1>that loan and that you should pay no more than

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<v Speaker 1>three percent. Now, this is a socialist's idea, it's communists mentality.

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<v Speaker 1>He also wrote an article where he believes that you

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<v Speaker 1>should go to jail if.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a climate denier.

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<v Speaker 1>The article talked about if you're a climate denier because

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<v Speaker 1>he's a massive advocate, and a lot of people don't

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<v Speaker 1>understand this about him. He is a massive advocate for

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<v Speaker 1>the Green New Deal. He believes that there should be

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<v Speaker 1>straight up mandates and hardcore mandates, mandates that make it

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<v Speaker 1>impossible for this country to work without putting the climate first.

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<v Speaker 1>It would decimate American jobs, a job market, it would

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<v Speaker 1>it would decimate American manufacturing, and it's unrealistic for the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that the rest of the world's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>go along with this. But he doesn't care because it's

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<v Speaker 1>a religion to him. But he actually wrote an article

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<v Speaker 1>where he was advocating for arresting climate deniers. That is

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<v Speaker 1>an extremist viewpoint. He's very much in favor of bail

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<v Speaker 1>and prison reform. He thinks that we have too many

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<v Speaker 1>Americans that are locked up, and he thinks that we

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<v Speaker 1>should let people out of jail in mass numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>That is who RFK is.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I remind you of that, just to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>put it in perspective for you that RFK is not

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<v Speaker 1>a conservative. Now, he again said some things during COVID

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<v Speaker 1>that people agreed with, But that doesn't mean that you

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<v Speaker 1>are a conservative. And I don't want any conservatives to

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<v Speaker 1>get bamboozled over this. That's the point I want the

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<v Speaker 1>takeaway here. Now, The question is what is he going

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<v Speaker 1>to do as he's running. Is he going to go

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<v Speaker 1>to the left or is he going to go the right?

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<v Speaker 1>And where's he going to try to pick up votes?

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<v Speaker 1>From what we're seeing so far, is he's actually going

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<v Speaker 1>to the left now because I think he understands that

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<v Speaker 1>the right has figured out he's not a conservative. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you know he's not a conservative, then all right,

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<v Speaker 1>well then be what you are, right, be a lefty.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. RFK Junior has now come out in an interview with.

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<v Speaker 1>CNN last night and said that Biden is a bigger

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<v Speaker 1>threat to democracy than Donald Trump. But I want you

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<v Speaker 1>to listen carefully to what he says because and then

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<v Speaker 1>we'll we'll dissect this on the other side. But again

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<v Speaker 1>RFK jor is responding to demon GOP attacks and he's

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<v Speaker 1>a spoiler saying, well, hold on a second, Biden is

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<v Speaker 1>a bigger threat to democracy than Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>Does that sound like a conservative liberal position?

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<v Speaker 5>Obviously conservative President Biden is much worse threat to democracy,

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<v Speaker 5>and the reason for that is President Biden is the

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<v Speaker 5>first candidate in history, the first president in history that

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<v Speaker 5>has you use the federal agencies to censor political speech.

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<v Speaker 5>So the censor's opponent, I, you know, I can say

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<v Speaker 5>that because I just want a case in the Federal

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<v Speaker 5>Court of Appeals and now before the Supreme Court. It

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<v Speaker 5>shows that he started censoring not just me. For thirty

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<v Speaker 5>seven hours after he took the office, he was censoring me.

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<v Speaker 5>No president in the country has ever done that. The

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<v Speaker 5>greatest threat democracy is not somebody who questions election returns,

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<v Speaker 5>but a president of United States. He used the power

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<v Speaker 5>of his office to force the social media companies Facebook, Instagram,

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<v Speaker 5>Twitter to open a portal and give the access to

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<v Speaker 5>that portal to the FBI, to the CIA, the IRS, Decisa,

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<v Speaker 5>to NIH to censor his political critics. As in Biden

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<v Speaker 5>for the first first president history to use the secret

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<v Speaker 5>his power over the Secret Service to deny Secret Service

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<v Speaker 5>protection to one of his political opponents for political reasons.

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<v Speaker 5>He's weaponizing the federal agencies. Those are real critical threats.

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<v Speaker 4>Theocrats tried to overturn a free and fair election. He

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<v Speaker 4>tried to overturn one right, is he still finding how

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<v Speaker 4>is that not a threat to democracy?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I think that is a threat to democracy. If

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<v Speaker 5>him over trying to overthrow the election, clearly is the

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<v Speaker 5>threat democracy. But the question was who is the worse

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<v Speaker 5>threat to democracy? And what I would say is, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not going to answer that question, but I can

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<v Speaker 5>argue that President Biden is because the First Amendment, Aaron

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<v Speaker 5>is the most important. But Adams and Hamilton and Madison said,

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<v Speaker 5>we put the guarantee of freedom of expression in the

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<v Speaker 5>First Amendment because all of our other constitutional rights depend

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<v Speaker 5>on it. If you have a government that can silence

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<v Speaker 5>its opponent, it has license for any atrocity.

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<v Speaker 4>So, just to be clear, you're saying you could make

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<v Speaker 4>an argument that President Biden is a worse threat to

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<v Speaker 4>democracy than absolutely.

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<v Speaker 5>But who else has ever tried to who else has

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<v Speaker 5>ever tried to sent what president in history has ever

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<v Speaker 5>tried to censor political opponents? What president has weaponized federal

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<v Speaker 5>You know, when my father came into the Justice Department.

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<v Speaker 5>The first week he was there, he got all of

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<v Speaker 5>the branch and division attorneys together and he said, whatever

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<v Speaker 5>we do, we are not going to use the power

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<v Speaker 5>of the Justice Department for political reason you're having.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, that ishension, and.

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<v Speaker 4>He is the only president who's tried to overthrow the

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<v Speaker 4>results of an election.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you know, let me let me say something about it.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not going to defend President Trump on that. That

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<v Speaker 5>was appalling.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you notice CNN they're frustrated because they don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what to do with him, right, They don't, And so

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<v Speaker 1>they went from that right because they didn't like his

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<v Speaker 1>response to then this question, they said, well, hold on

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<v Speaker 1>a second, your own family doesn't even like what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Your own family is not porting the way that you're

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<v Speaker 1>running right now. So again they're worried about RFK and

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<v Speaker 1>they don't know if they're worried about him because he's

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<v Speaker 1>a Republican or he's a Democrat. Are trying to act

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<v Speaker 1>like one or the other. I'm going to play for

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<v Speaker 1>you next when they then go after him and say, well, look,

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<v Speaker 1>your own family even says don't trust you. Your own

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<v Speaker 1>family's not supporting your run. Here, what is extremism now

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<v Speaker 1>to the left, it's apparently traditional family values.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>If you believe in not allowing people to turn boys

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<v Speaker 1>into little girls and at young ages, right, like the

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<v Speaker 1>extremism of that. If you believe in the ability to

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<v Speaker 1>protect the lives of unborn children that shouldn't be butchered

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<v Speaker 1>with partial births, abortion and things like that, apparently you're

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<v Speaker 1>now an extremist. If you believe and parental rights and

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<v Speaker 1>the state not having control of your kids to indoctrinate

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<v Speaker 1>your children, apparently you're an extremist.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, you are an extremist. That's where we are.

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<v Speaker 1>And she says that standing up for conservative ideals and

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<v Speaker 1>values now makes you an extremist.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, like you're a Ghattis terrorist. I'm guessing. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm guessing.

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to hear what Simone Sanders said again

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<v Speaker 1>a moment ago MSNBC this morning, saying, given the extremism

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<v Speaker 1>we're seeing, there's a real path for Biden to actually

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<v Speaker 1>win Florida.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay.

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<v Speaker 7>Interesting, I'm going to go from gen to Simone, from

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<v Speaker 7>Michigan to Florida, and then de Heilman about both those states.

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<v Speaker 7>But Simone, what happened in Florida yesterday. It sort of

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<v Speaker 7>feels like good news, bad news, but really big bad

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<v Speaker 7>news first, because in the next few months it's going

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<v Speaker 7>to be unimaginable what women in Florida will have to face,

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<v Speaker 7>especially if a six week fan goes into effect as

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<v Speaker 7>is expected. And are those stories then going to fuel

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<v Speaker 7>I think the drive to turn the state blue in November.

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<v Speaker 8>As you said. As you said, turning the state blue,

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<v Speaker 8>Jonathan Lemire said, because yes, everyone feels that Florida is

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<v Speaker 8>not a blue or a blue place. Really it used

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<v Speaker 8>to be purple. Increasingly it has become red. But in

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<v Speaker 8>the last couple of cycles, particularly, I'm thinking about the

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<v Speaker 8>special election, the runoff election in Jacksonville, Florida for mayor,

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<v Speaker 8>where for the first time in ever, a woman is

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<v Speaker 8>the mayor of Jacksonville, Florida, Mayor Donna Degan, and she's

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<v Speaker 8>only the second Democrat to lead that city in thirty years.

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<v Speaker 8>Abortion was a part of that story. Democrats in Florida

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<v Speaker 8>have been organizing, Mika, and because of that organizing, I

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<v Speaker 8>think they are seeing gains.

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<v Speaker 2>What the Florida.

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<v Speaker 8>Supreme Court did yesterday they ruled in favor of the

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<v Speaker 8>fifteen week abortion ban. And last year when the Republican

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<v Speaker 8>legislators in Florida passed that six week abortion ban, and

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<v Speaker 8>they passed it because people were coming to Florida to

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<v Speaker 8>get a bortions because it was one of the only

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<v Speaker 8>places left in the Southeast where you could get an

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<v Speaker 8>abortion if that is what you needed, that was the

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<v Speaker 8>care that you needed. Well, Ronda Santras didn't like that,

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<v Speaker 8>and so he pressured the legislature to pass an even

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<v Speaker 8>stricter abortion ban, and they wrote in that provision that

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<v Speaker 8>win there if the Supreme Court ruled in favor of

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<v Speaker 8>the fifteen week, the sixteenth, the sixth week would automatically

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<v Speaker 8>go into effect. And that's where we had this thirty days.

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<v Speaker 8>And so Democrats, and I just read this in punchbol

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<v Speaker 8>News before I came on, are launching, particularly in Florida

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<v Speaker 8>today their field hearings House Democrats. House Democratic Leader Hakim

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<v Speaker 8>Jeffries is down there with a host of Democrats Florida

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<v Speaker 8>Democrats like Debbie Washerman Sults, but also folks like Barbara Lee,

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<v Speaker 8>who has been a reproductive rights champion for a long time.

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<v Speaker 8>And this is the part of a six month campaign.

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<v Speaker 8>House Democrats are saying to really make Florida ground zero

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<v Speaker 8>for the reproductive rights right fight and reproductive freedom. And

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<v Speaker 8>you couple that with the Biden ad. Democrats definitely think

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<v Speaker 8>that Florida. There's a path of them in Florida. And

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<v Speaker 8>I don't think they're wrong given the extremism that was seeing.

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<v Speaker 1>Extremism protecting children being butchered is now extremism. Extremism, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>extremism that is that is extremism. I don't believe that

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats are going to win on this.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that get some women voters fired up doing

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<v Speaker 1>the right thing can irritate people on the other side.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>They had another extremists Democrat on talking about this abortion

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<v Speaker 1>issue saying this about what Florida is.

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<v Speaker 8>Doing, stremism that was seeing, well.

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<v Speaker 7>Thanks to Donald Trump, and he does take the credit

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<v Speaker 7>for the overturning of Roe and all the different things

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<v Speaker 7>that have happened as ripple effects to that momentous decision

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<v Speaker 7>taking away fifty years of rights. And I just want

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<v Speaker 7>to point out, as we turn to John Hammon on

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<v Speaker 7>all of this, you know, the far right and Trump

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<v Speaker 7>Republicans and abortion right to life activists, they've poisoned the

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<v Speaker 7>word abortion. They make it sound like some sort of

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<v Speaker 7>crime by some sort of lazy woman who is immoral.

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<v Speaker 7>The hypocrisy is incredible, But I won't digress. You don't

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<v Speaker 7>want me to do that. At the same time, I

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<v Speaker 7>think that democrats need to be smart with their words.

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<v Speaker 7>I would take the word life. I would take the

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<v Speaker 7>word life, life of the mother. Especially with the cases

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<v Speaker 7>of unviable pregnancies, we see mothers lives at risk, right

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<v Speaker 7>to have life IVF, right to have a family. I

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<v Speaker 7>would take their word, and I would tell them what

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<v Speaker 7>to do with it. But it's abortion healthcare. It is

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<v Speaker 7>this part of our normal health care that needs to

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<v Speaker 7>get out there.

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<v Speaker 2>But by the way, I love how they frame this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's normal health care. You hear that, it's normal health care.

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<v Speaker 1>Just so you know what the Forida law says. The

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<v Speaker 1>Forida law says if the mother's life is in danger,

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<v Speaker 1>you can have the abortion. Doesn't say you can't. So

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<v Speaker 1>they're just straight up lying to you. And if they're

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<v Speaker 1>willing to lie to you about that, what else are

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<v Speaker 1>they going to lie to you about. They're willing to

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<v Speaker 1>lie to you about that. My other question is are

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<v Speaker 1>they lying to you about the actual issue of abortion? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>are they lying to you about the actual issue of abortion?

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<v Speaker 1>I would argue yes, they are. They are arguing they

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<v Speaker 1>are lying to you about the actual issue of abortion.

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<v Speaker 2>And they sit there.

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<v Speaker 1>And they tell you, no, no, no, you don't understand. This

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<v Speaker 1>is about the life of the mother. The life of

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<v Speaker 1>the mother is already protected. This is propaganda. Bad news

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<v Speaker 1>for women in Florida. Not if you're a female in

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<v Speaker 1>the womb, it's good news for you. That's great news

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<v Speaker 1>for future women of Florida. Keep listening.

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<v Speaker 7>That message needs to be said to Democrats and Republicans

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<v Speaker 7>who will vote on this issue because it affects their

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<v Speaker 7>everyday life. So John Hellman Michigan and.

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<v Speaker 9>Florida, go well, I Meanca, first of all, I think

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<v Speaker 9>that the message that you're putting forward there as is

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<v Speaker 9>that that's out there. I think there are a lot

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<v Speaker 9>of Democrats who are hearing that message. And we've seen

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<v Speaker 9>that obviously over the course of everything in that post

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<v Speaker 9>the period of post ops politics. And you know, just

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<v Speaker 9>to re emphasize in Florida, which I think is the

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<v Speaker 9>more well Florida is our new is the news year.

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<v Speaker 9>So I'll try to do that one first. Uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>Florida is the emphasise the human cost of this and

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<v Speaker 9>you said the good news bad news. Obviously, this decisions

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<v Speaker 9>yesterday is bad news for women in Florida, bad news

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<v Speaker 9>for everybody who loves women in Florida, bad news for

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<v Speaker 9>women's healthcare in Florida, at least for the time being.

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<v Speaker 9>As a political matter, I'm here, sitting here. I got

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<v Speaker 9>Simone Sanders on one side. I got Lamiro over on

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<v Speaker 9>the other side. Let's just let's put it this way.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, Florida is a state that that Broughck Obama

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<v Speaker 9>won twice. Hillary Clinton lost it by I think a

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<v Speaker 9>point and a half or so in twenty sixteen, and

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<v Speaker 9>Joe Biden lost it about double that amount, about three

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<v Speaker 9>points something three and a half points or something into

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<v Speaker 9>in twenty twenty, Trump increased his margin there.

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<v Speaker 2>Why did that happen.

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<v Speaker 9>It happened almost entirely for one reason, which was the

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<v Speaker 9>Hispanic vote in Florida, where Donald Trump did overperformed anybody's

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<v Speaker 9>expectations in Florida in twenty twenty. What's happened with Latino

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<v Speaker 9>votes over the course of the last three years, Trump has,

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<v Speaker 9>by all pulling that we have, has gotten stronger with

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<v Speaker 9>Hispanics than he was three years ago. This is why

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<v Speaker 9>people like John Lamir and a lot of people in

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<v Speaker 9>the Biden campaign look at Florida, have looked at Florida

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<v Speaker 9>and said, until this day, have looked at Florida and said,

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<v Speaker 9>that's not a battleground state anymore. That's not in the

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<v Speaker 9>six or seven states that are going to swing the election.

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<v Speaker 9>The big caveat to that is this Dobbs, this post

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<v Speaker 9>Dobbs era and an injecting abortion into the debate in Florida.

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<v Speaker 9>It is going to change things in Florida. It is

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<v Speaker 9>going to bring out new kind of democratic energy, at

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<v Speaker 9>least if we judge it on the base of everything

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<v Speaker 9>else we've seen post Dobbs. The question I think is

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<v Speaker 9>where are we going to be when we get to September.

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<v Speaker 9>And I don't think you can say right now that

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<v Speaker 9>there's anybody who is telling the truth in the Biden

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<v Speaker 9>campaign who says that they are convinced today that Florida

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<v Speaker 9>is now state they're going to go spend money in,

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<v Speaker 9>They're going to try to turn that into a battleground state.

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<v Speaker 9>There's just too much data that suggests that it might

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<v Speaker 9>be out of reach. But I do think that if

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<v Speaker 9>we get to September and that race looks and things

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<v Speaker 9>have tightened, there to the point where it does look winnable,

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<v Speaker 9>you may see that become a reach state for the

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<v Speaker 9>Biden campaign, and that would obviously alter the whole calculus

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<v Speaker 9>the election. If Florida became a thing that was within

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<v Speaker 9>reach for Joe Biden, it would change the whole trajectory,

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<v Speaker 9>change the whole battle, the whole Battogrand matrix for the race,

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<v Speaker 9>because you really would go from not just six or

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<v Speaker 9>seven states, but you'd have this additional state with a

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<v Speaker 9>giant number of electoral votes suddenly in play. I were

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<v Speaker 9>right now sitting here today. I'm not going to bet

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<v Speaker 9>on that, but I'm certain the Biden get paid is

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<v Speaker 9>going to push at it over the course of the

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<v Speaker 9>next few months to see if they can nudge it

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<v Speaker 9>into that vicinity.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, I love this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like a hardcore lefty, but he's like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna look like an idiot on national TV. And he

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<v Speaker 1>just basically said to them, like, Hey, what you're saying

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<v Speaker 1>probably not gonna happen. Like, hey, what you're describing, probably

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 2>What you're telling.

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<v Speaker 1>People is like that this is in play and that

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<v Speaker 1>this is a real chance. Yeah, probably not right like

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<v Speaker 1>probably not, probably not, probably not gonna happen. Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's not gonna happen. It's Florida, and the women in

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<v Speaker 1>Florida are I guess, smarter than the women at MSNBC,

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<v Speaker 1>which it's not hard to do. It's not really even

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<v Speaker 1>a compliment. But this we're gonna turn Florida and women

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be angry in Florida. I don't believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the majority of women are actually in favor

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