1 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: If you are voting in November coming up, I have 2 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: a question for you. Is there a chance that you 3 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: would not vote for Donald Trump and you would not 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: vote for Joe Biden. Is there a chance you would 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: vote for a third party candidate? Is there a chance 6 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: that you would vote for RFK Junior? Rfk Jor went 7 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: on CNN, and it has now gotten a lot more traction. 8 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,319 Speaker 1: People are like, Wow, maybe I like RFK even more 9 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: because of the way he fought back on CNN. Now, 10 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: there was an article in The New York Times and 11 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: it said that rfk Jor could be a spoiler for 12 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: Democrats if too many Democrats defect from Joe Biden and 13 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: they go and vote for rfk Jor. Rfk Jor was 14 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: asked a question in CNN. I'm sure thought they knew 15 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: what he was going to say in response, is that 16 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is obviously a massive threat to our democracy. 17 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: And he didn't take the bait, and then he fought 18 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: back with CNN, and CNN couldn't believe that he fought back. 19 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,919 Speaker 1: He actually said, no, I don't think that Donald Trump 20 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: is a bigger threat to democracy. In fact, I think 21 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: President Joe Biden is the biggest threat to democracy. 22 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 2: Now, this made a lot of people's eyes. 23 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 1: Open to him. The question is was it more Republicans 24 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: or Democrats. I hope that it's not Republicans. I hope 25 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: it's democrats. But I want you to hear what he 26 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: just said, and I think there's a lot of truth 27 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: to what he said. And CNN couldn't believe that he 28 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: fought back this way and said what he actually did say, 29 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: which brings me back to the question, is there a 30 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 1: chance that you are going to vote for a third 31 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: party candidate. 32 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,279 Speaker 2: Or do you say no? I understand to two man race, 33 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: take a listen. 34 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 3: Jeez. 35 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 4: While I admire his high minded ideals, his suggestion that 36 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 4: there is no difference between mister Warre and mister Bush 37 00:01:55,680 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 4: is irresponsible. A moment ago, you said, you essentially see 38 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 4: Trump and Biden is saying different different issues. But do 39 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 4: you really believe that when people talk about the threat 40 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 4: to democracy that Trump poses, do you really think that 41 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 4: that is an equal Yeah. 42 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: But by the way, I love how they just said that, like, well, 43 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: I mean, let's they Aaron Burnett CNN Prime Time says 44 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: that is like it's just everybody agrees, given fact that 45 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is a threat to democracy. Like you notice 46 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: that te up there. That isn't a real journalistic question. 47 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: That is a what we call a loaded question. It 48 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: is a straight up loaded question. 49 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 2: Keep listening, listen. 50 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 5: I can make the argument President Biden is a much 51 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 5: worse threat to democracy. And the reason for that is 52 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 5: President Biden is the first candidate in history, the first 53 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 5: president in the history, that has used the federal agencies 54 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 5: to sensor political speech. So the sensor's opponent, I you know, 55 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 5: I can say that because I just want a case 56 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 5: in the Federal Court of Appeals now before the Supreme Court. 57 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 5: It shows that he started censoring not just me for 58 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 5: thirty seven hours after he took the other office, he 59 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 5: was censoring me. No president in the country has ever 60 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 5: done that. The greatest threat democracy is not somebody who 61 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 5: questions election returns, but a president of the United States 62 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 5: who used the power of his office to force the 63 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 5: social media company's Facebook, Instagram, Twitter to open a portal 64 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 5: and give the access to that portal to the FBI. 65 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 5: The CIA is the irs, Desia, the NIH to censor 66 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 5: his political critics. As in Biden, for the first first 67 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 5: president of history used the secret his power over the 68 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 5: secret Service to deny secret Service protection to one of 69 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 5: his political opponents for political reasons. He's weaponizing a federal agencies. 70 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 5: Those are really critical threats. 71 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 4: Tried to overturn a free and fair election. He tried 72 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 4: to overturn one. Right, is he still finding court? How 73 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 4: is that not a threat to democracy? 74 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 5: Well, I think that is a threat to democracy. Him 75 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 5: of its we're trying to overthrow the election. Clearly is 76 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 5: the threat democracy. But the question was who is the 77 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 5: worse threat to democracy? And what I would say is, 78 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 5: you know, I'm not going to answer that question, but 79 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 5: I can argue that President Biden is because the First Amendment, Aaron, 80 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 5: is the most important. But Adams and Hamilton and Madison said, 81 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 5: we put the guarantee of freedom expression in the First 82 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 5: Amendment because all of our other constitutional. 83 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 3: Rights depend on it. 84 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 5: If you have a government that can silence its opponent, 85 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 5: it has license for any atrocity. 86 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 4: So, just to be clear, you're saying you could make 87 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 4: an argument that President Biden is a worse threat to democracy. 88 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: Then you hear what he's saying there and CNN can't 89 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: believe it that they're in shock that he didn't take 90 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: their bait the way that they thought he was supposed to. 91 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: And if you go through the list, by the way 92 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: of what he just said, it's a pretty compactit argument 93 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: that Joe Biden, even for the liberals watching, is a 94 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:09,239 Speaker 1: bigger threat to democracy than anybody else, and including Donald 95 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: Trump right now. I also think it's hilariouspiele say that 96 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is a threat to democracy right if, and 97 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: they keep saying if he wins, if he wins, if 98 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 1: he wins, he is the biggest threat to democracy. 99 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 2: I fundamentally disagree with that. 100 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: And the reason why is because he's already been president 101 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 1: of the United States of America and he was the 102 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: furthest thing from a threat to democracy. 103 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 2: He was the furthest. 104 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: Thing, furthest threat from democracy, a threat to democracy. In fact, 105 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: he was one that was holding on to democracy, keeping 106 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: up democracy. The idea that he's like a threat is absurd. 107 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: He's not a threat to democracy, and he proved it 108 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: when he was Presidents of America for four years. Four years. 109 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 1: He proved it four different years. He proved it not 110 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: a threat to democracy. I'm a protector of democracy. I'm 111 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: a defender of democracy. I am a champion of democracy, 112 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: not a threat to democracy. Democrats are now afraid that 113 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: Kennedy is going to take away votes, too many votes 114 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: from them, too many votes away from Joe Biden because 115 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: of some of the things he's said, including what I. 116 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 2: Just played for you. 117 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: They didn't like what he had to say about Joe Biden. 118 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: He said that Joe Biden was a bigger threat to 119 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: democracy by silencing and censoring his opponents. He won a 120 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: case in federal court on this issue, and he says 121 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: that's a bigger threat to democracy than Donald Trump ever was. 122 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: They didn't like that, So what they do next? Immediately said, well, 123 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: hold on a second. Your family members don't even like you. 124 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 1: They're against you. Listen to this. 125 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 4: The candidacy that you're running has cost you a lot personally. 126 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 4: It has cost you. Siblings, family members have spoken against 127 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 4: what you're doing. They are angry, they're upset, they're hurt. 128 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 4: Your sister, Worri was on our show recently and she 129 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 4: spoke about it. JFK's grandson also posted on social media 130 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 4: overnight something I don't know if you saw it. I 131 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 4: wanted to play both of them. 132 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 6: I feel strongly that this is the most important election 133 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 6: of our lifetime, and I do worry that Bobby just 134 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 6: taking some percentage of votes from Biden could shift the 135 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,679 Speaker 6: election and lead to Trump's selection. 136 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 3: He's training in on camelot, celebrity, conspiracy theories, and conflict 137 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 3: for personal gain and fame. I've listened to him, I 138 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 3: know him. I have no idea why anyone thinks he 139 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 3: should be president. What I do know is his candidacy 140 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 3: is an embarrassment. 141 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 4: That's your family. That's your family. Yeah. 142 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 5: I have a big family, about one hundred and five 143 00:07:54,560 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 5: cousins on the last time, and I have siblings who 144 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 5: are supporting me. I have I have. I have cousins 145 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 5: and nephews and nieces who are working in my campaign. 146 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 5: My campaign is being run by my daughter in law, 147 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 5: you know by are. The political party that we started 148 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 5: is shared by my cousin, Anthony Shriver. Listen, Oh, I 149 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 5: have a big family. I don't know anybody in America 150 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 5: who's got a family who agrees with them on everything. 151 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 5: I don't know if that's your situation, Aaron, if you 152 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 5: just have a family who believes everything you do is 153 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 5: you know, like unicorns and rainbows. But uh, for you know, 154 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 5: I would I come from a family from a milliu 155 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 5: where we came home at night and ate dinner with 156 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 5: my father, and he would orchestrate debates between us, and 157 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 5: we were in the same way that his father did 158 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 5: with him, and we could disagree on issues, and we 159 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 5: could disagree with passion and information, but we still love 160 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 5: each other. And I love Rory, I love my family. 161 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 5: I feel loved by them. Listen, I understand why they 162 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 5: don't like running. I understand. President Biden has been a 163 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 5: forty year friend to me and my family. He is 164 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 5: a bust of my father. Behind him on the Oval office. 165 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 5: He talked about how my father inspired him to enter politics. 166 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 5: There's five members of my family who work for the 167 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 5: Biden administration, So you know, I understand why they're dismayed 168 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 5: that I'm running against them. They're also worried that, you 169 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 5: know what my sister said that you know my candidates, 170 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 5: he may get Trump elected. 171 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 4: What it does, what happens if you wake up the 172 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 4: day after the election, we have results, and that is 173 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 4: what happened, Well, will you regret it? 174 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 5: What I what I said to you applies to that. 175 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 5: I don't think either a President Trump or a president 176 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 5: but are going to solve the death crisis in this country, 177 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 5: which is existential. I don't think either of them are 178 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 5: going to get us out of foreign wars. 179 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: I love how scared they are right now. And again 180 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: I will continue to remind you, okay, I will continue 181 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: to remind you this guy is not a conservative, and 182 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: they're going to try to turn him into some sort 183 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: of conservative. 184 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 2: And why is the media trying to do this? 185 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 1: And you can tell in that interview like they're terrified 186 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 1: that they're gonna he's gonna take more votes from Biden 187 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: than he's going to take from Trump. And they've they've 188 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: witnessed this, they saw how Ross Parrot Ross Parrot. A 189 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: lot of people don't know the history. Ross Parrot hated 190 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: George Bush forty one over a land deal. It was 191 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: a land deal that went bad. A land deal, folks, 192 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,719 Speaker 1: a land deal, and he said, you know what I'm 193 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: not I don't. I don't think Ross pro actually wanted 194 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: to be president at all. I think he just wanted 195 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: to cost and he could do it, and he had 196 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: the money to do it. He wanted to cost George 197 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: Bush forty one the presidency. That was the ultimate middle finger, 198 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: the ultimate fu and he did it. He cost in 199 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 1: the presidency by running as a third party candidate, and 200 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 1: Bill Clinton would have never been president if it wasn't 201 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: for Ross Parrot. And Ross Parrot knew exactly what he 202 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: was doing. You noticed Ross pro didn't even like, you know, 203 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: wasn't trying to be famous, didn't want to be famous, 204 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: per se. Like when he got done running, did you 205 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: ever notice what happened when he got done running? He 206 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: was done, folks, Like when he got he wasn't out 207 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:18,719 Speaker 1: there pontificating on politics. 208 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 2: After he was done. 209 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: He had cost somebody he hated, personally George Bush forty one, 210 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: the presidency and the Democratic Party remembers that spoilers can 211 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: change who wins. And so they're like, all right, what 212 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: do we do here? Okay, Like, like, what what do 213 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: we do here? How does this work? Is he gonna 214 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: cost Joe Biden the election? Is he going to take 215 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: votes away from Joe Biden? That's the big question they're asking. 216 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: RFK Junior now doing a big media tour pushing for 217 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: his candidacy for the White House. And I I said 218 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: this the other day on Fox News Channel when I 219 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 1: was hosting out Numbered, that look, I want to make 220 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: sure that Republicans aren't bamboozled by RFK. 221 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 2: I want to make sure people know who he. 222 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: Is, that he's a radical leftist who is actually, I 223 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: think more extreme in his positions than Joe Biden. 224 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 2: And that's saying something. 225 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: Early on, there were people that I think thought that 226 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: RFK was a conservative because of his stance on COVID 227 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: vaccines and his stands on vaccines and mandates was one 228 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: that we could agree on. But the rest of his 229 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: policies are radical. How radical is RFK? I'll give you 230 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 1: an example. He believes the government should subsidize all housing 231 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: in this country, which would be the largest expansion in 232 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: government history. So if your interest rate is over three percent, 233 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 1: he believes that the government should pick up the rest 234 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: of the percentage. So if you close on a house 235 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 1: and the interest rates at eight percent or nine percent 236 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 1: because you have bad credit, or ten percent or rates 237 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: just keep going up, he believes that you should actually 238 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: be subsidized by the federal government for thirty years on 239 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: that loan and that you should pay no more than 240 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: three percent. Now, this is a socialist's idea, it's communists mentality. 241 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: He also wrote an article where he believes that you 242 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 1: should go to jail if. 243 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 2: You're a climate denier. 244 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: The article talked about if you're a climate denier because 245 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: he's a massive advocate, and a lot of people don't 246 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: understand this about him. He is a massive advocate for 247 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: the Green New Deal. He believes that there should be 248 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: straight up mandates and hardcore mandates, mandates that make it 249 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: impossible for this country to work without putting the climate first. 250 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: It would decimate American jobs, a job market, it would 251 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: it would decimate American manufacturing, and it's unrealistic for the 252 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 1: fact that the rest of the world's not going to 253 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: go along with this. But he doesn't care because it's 254 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: a religion to him. But he actually wrote an article 255 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: where he was advocating for arresting climate deniers. That is 256 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: an extremist viewpoint. He's very much in favor of bail 257 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: and prison reform. He thinks that we have too many 258 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: Americans that are locked up, and he thinks that we 259 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: should let people out of jail in mass numbers. 260 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 2: That is who RFK is. 261 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: Now, I remind you of that, just to kind of 262 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: put it in perspective for you that RFK is not 263 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: a conservative. Now, he again said some things during COVID 264 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: that people agreed with, But that doesn't mean that you 265 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: are a conservative. And I don't want any conservatives to 266 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: get bamboozled over this. That's the point I want the 267 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: takeaway here. Now, The question is what is he going 268 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: to do as he's running. Is he going to go 269 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: to the left or is he going to go the right? 270 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: And where's he going to try to pick up votes? 271 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: From what we're seeing so far, is he's actually going 272 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: to the left now because I think he understands that 273 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: the right has figured out he's not a conservative. And 274 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: if you know he's not a conservative, then all right, 275 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: well then be what you are, right, be a lefty. 276 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 2: Well. RFK Junior has now come out in an interview with. 277 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: CNN last night and said that Biden is a bigger 278 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: threat to democracy than Donald Trump. But I want you 279 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: to listen carefully to what he says because and then 280 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: we'll we'll dissect this on the other side. But again 281 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: RFK jor is responding to demon GOP attacks and he's 282 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: a spoiler saying, well, hold on a second, Biden is 283 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: a bigger threat to democracy than Trump. 284 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 2: Does that sound like a conservative liberal position? 285 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 5: Obviously conservative President Biden is much worse threat to democracy, 286 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 5: and the reason for that is President Biden is the 287 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 5: first candidate in history, the first president in history that 288 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 5: has you use the federal agencies to censor political speech. 289 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 5: So the censor's opponent, I, you know, I can say 290 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 5: that because I just want a case in the Federal 291 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 5: Court of Appeals and now before the Supreme Court. It 292 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 5: shows that he started censoring not just me. For thirty 293 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 5: seven hours after he took the office, he was censoring me. 294 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 5: No president in the country has ever done that. The 295 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 5: greatest threat democracy is not somebody who questions election returns, 296 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 5: but a president of United States. He used the power 297 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 5: of his office to force the social media companies Facebook, Instagram, 298 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 5: Twitter to open a portal and give the access to 299 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 5: that portal to the FBI, to the CIA, the IRS, Decisa, 300 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 5: to NIH to censor his political critics. As in Biden 301 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 5: for the first first president history to use the secret 302 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 5: his power over the Secret Service to deny Secret Service 303 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 5: protection to one of his political opponents for political reasons. 304 00:16:56,040 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 5: He's weaponizing the federal agencies. Those are real critical threats. 305 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 4: Theocrats tried to overturn a free and fair election. He 306 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 4: tried to overturn one right, is he still finding how 307 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 4: is that not a threat to democracy? 308 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 5: Well, I think that is a threat to democracy. If 309 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 5: him over trying to overthrow the election, clearly is the 310 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 5: threat democracy. But the question was who is the worse 311 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 5: threat to democracy? And what I would say is, you know, 312 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 5: I'm not going to answer that question, but I can 313 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 5: argue that President Biden is because the First Amendment, Aaron 314 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 5: is the most important. But Adams and Hamilton and Madison said, 315 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 5: we put the guarantee of freedom of expression in the 316 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 5: First Amendment because all of our other constitutional rights depend 317 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 5: on it. If you have a government that can silence 318 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 5: its opponent, it has license for any atrocity. 319 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 4: So, just to be clear, you're saying you could make 320 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 4: an argument that President Biden is a worse threat to 321 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 4: democracy than absolutely. 322 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 5: But who else has ever tried to who else has 323 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 5: ever tried to sent what president in history has ever 324 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 5: tried to censor political opponents? What president has weaponized federal 325 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 5: You know, when my father came into the Justice Department. 326 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 5: The first week he was there, he got all of 327 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 5: the branch and division attorneys together and he said, whatever 328 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 5: we do, we are not going to use the power 329 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 5: of the Justice Department for political reason you're having. 330 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 2: He said, that ishension, and. 331 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 4: He is the only president who's tried to overthrow the 332 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 4: results of an election. 333 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 5: Well, you know, let me let me say something about it. 334 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 5: I'm not going to defend President Trump on that. That 335 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 5: was appalling. 336 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: Now you notice CNN they're frustrated because they don't know 337 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: what to do with him, right, They don't, And so 338 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: they went from that right because they didn't like his 339 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 1: response to then this question, they said, well, hold on 340 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: a second, your own family doesn't even like what you're doing. 341 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: Your own family is not porting the way that you're 342 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: running right now. So again they're worried about RFK and 343 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 1: they don't know if they're worried about him because he's 344 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: a Republican or he's a Democrat. Are trying to act 345 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 1: like one or the other. I'm going to play for 346 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: you next when they then go after him and say, well, look, 347 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 1: your own family even says don't trust you. Your own 348 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: family's not supporting your run. Here, what is extremism now 349 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: to the left, it's apparently traditional family values. 350 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 2: That's what it is. 351 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: If you believe in not allowing people to turn boys 352 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: into little girls and at young ages, right, like the 353 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 1: extremism of that. If you believe in the ability to 354 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: protect the lives of unborn children that shouldn't be butchered 355 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 1: with partial births, abortion and things like that, apparently you're 356 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: now an extremist. If you believe and parental rights and 357 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: the state not having control of your kids to indoctrinate 358 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: your children, apparently you're an extremist. 359 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 2: That's right, you are an extremist. That's where we are. 360 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: And she says that standing up for conservative ideals and 361 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: values now makes you an extremist. 362 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 2: I guess, like you're a Ghattis terrorist. I'm guessing. Okay, 363 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 2: I'm guessing. 364 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 1: I want you to hear what Simone Sanders said again 365 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: a moment ago MSNBC this morning, saying, given the extremism 366 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 1: we're seeing, there's a real path for Biden to actually 367 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 1: win Florida. 368 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:33,959 Speaker 6: Okay. 369 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 7: Interesting, I'm going to go from gen to Simone, from 370 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 7: Michigan to Florida, and then de Heilman about both those states. 371 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 7: But Simone, what happened in Florida yesterday. It sort of 372 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 7: feels like good news, bad news, but really big bad 373 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 7: news first, because in the next few months it's going 374 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 7: to be unimaginable what women in Florida will have to face, 375 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 7: especially if a six week fan goes into effect as 376 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:01,959 Speaker 7: is expected. And are those stories then going to fuel 377 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 7: I think the drive to turn the state blue in November. 378 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 8: As you said. As you said, turning the state blue, 379 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 8: Jonathan Lemire said, because yes, everyone feels that Florida is 380 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 8: not a blue or a blue place. Really it used 381 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 8: to be purple. Increasingly it has become red. But in 382 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 8: the last couple of cycles, particularly, I'm thinking about the 383 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 8: special election, the runoff election in Jacksonville, Florida for mayor, 384 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 8: where for the first time in ever, a woman is 385 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,360 Speaker 8: the mayor of Jacksonville, Florida, Mayor Donna Degan, and she's 386 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 8: only the second Democrat to lead that city in thirty years. 387 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 8: Abortion was a part of that story. Democrats in Florida 388 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 8: have been organizing, Mika, and because of that organizing, I 389 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 8: think they are seeing gains. 390 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 2: What the Florida. 391 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 8: Supreme Court did yesterday they ruled in favor of the 392 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 8: fifteen week abortion ban. And last year when the Republican 393 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 8: legislators in Florida passed that six week abortion ban, and 394 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 8: they passed it because people were coming to Florida to 395 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 8: get a bortions because it was one of the only 396 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 8: places left in the Southeast where you could get an 397 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 8: abortion if that is what you needed, that was the 398 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 8: care that you needed. Well, Ronda Santras didn't like that, 399 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 8: and so he pressured the legislature to pass an even 400 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 8: stricter abortion ban, and they wrote in that provision that 401 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 8: win there if the Supreme Court ruled in favor of 402 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 8: the fifteen week, the sixteenth, the sixth week would automatically 403 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 8: go into effect. And that's where we had this thirty days. 404 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 8: And so Democrats, and I just read this in punchbol 405 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 8: News before I came on, are launching, particularly in Florida 406 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 8: today their field hearings House Democrats. House Democratic Leader Hakim 407 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 8: Jeffries is down there with a host of Democrats Florida 408 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 8: Democrats like Debbie Washerman Sults, but also folks like Barbara Lee, 409 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 8: who has been a reproductive rights champion for a long time. 410 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 8: And this is the part of a six month campaign. 411 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 8: House Democrats are saying to really make Florida ground zero 412 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 8: for the reproductive rights right fight and reproductive freedom. And 413 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 8: you couple that with the Biden ad. Democrats definitely think 414 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 8: that Florida. There's a path of them in Florida. And 415 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 8: I don't think they're wrong given the extremism that was seeing. 416 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: Extremism protecting children being butchered is now extremism. Extremism, Okay, 417 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: extremism that is that is extremism. I don't believe that 418 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: Democrats are going to win on this. 419 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 2: I just don't. 420 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: I understand that get some women voters fired up doing 421 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: the right thing can irritate people on the other side. 422 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 2: That's the truth. 423 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: They had another extremists Democrat on talking about this abortion 424 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 1: issue saying this about what Florida is. 425 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 8: Doing, stremism that was seeing, well. 426 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 7: Thanks to Donald Trump, and he does take the credit 427 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 7: for the overturning of Roe and all the different things 428 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 7: that have happened as ripple effects to that momentous decision 429 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 7: taking away fifty years of rights. And I just want 430 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 7: to point out, as we turn to John Hammon on 431 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 7: all of this, you know, the far right and Trump 432 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 7: Republicans and abortion right to life activists, they've poisoned the 433 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 7: word abortion. They make it sound like some sort of 434 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 7: crime by some sort of lazy woman who is immoral. 435 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 7: The hypocrisy is incredible, But I won't digress. You don't 436 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,479 Speaker 7: want me to do that. At the same time, I 437 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 7: think that democrats need to be smart with their words. 438 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 7: I would take the word life. I would take the 439 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 7: word life, life of the mother. Especially with the cases 440 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 7: of unviable pregnancies, we see mothers lives at risk, right 441 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 7: to have life IVF, right to have a family. I 442 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 7: would take their word, and I would tell them what 443 00:24:56,359 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 7: to do with it. But it's abortion healthcare. It is 444 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 7: this part of our normal health care that needs to 445 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 7: get out there. 446 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,239 Speaker 2: But by the way, I love how they frame this. 447 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: It's normal health care. You hear that, it's normal health care. 448 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: Just so you know what the Forida law says. The 449 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: Forida law says if the mother's life is in danger, 450 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: you can have the abortion. Doesn't say you can't. So 451 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: they're just straight up lying to you. And if they're 452 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: willing to lie to you about that, what else are 453 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 1: they going to lie to you about. They're willing to 454 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: lie to you about that. My other question is are 455 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: they lying to you about the actual issue of abortion? Like, 456 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 1: are they lying to you about the actual issue of abortion? 457 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 1: I would argue yes, they are. They are arguing they 458 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 1: are lying to you about the actual issue of abortion. 459 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 2: And they sit there. 460 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 1: And they tell you, no, no, no, you don't understand. This 461 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: is about the life of the mother. The life of 462 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: the mother is already protected. This is propaganda. Bad news 463 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: for women in Florida. Not if you're a female in 464 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: the womb, it's good news for you. That's great news 465 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 1: for future women of Florida. Keep listening. 466 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 7: That message needs to be said to Democrats and Republicans 467 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 7: who will vote on this issue because it affects their 468 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 7: everyday life. So John Hellman Michigan and. 469 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 9: Florida, go well, I Meanca, first of all, I think 470 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 9: that the message that you're putting forward there as is 471 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 9: that that's out there. I think there are a lot 472 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 9: of Democrats who are hearing that message. And we've seen 473 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 9: that obviously over the course of everything in that post 474 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 9: the period of post ops politics. And you know, just 475 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,479 Speaker 9: to re emphasize in Florida, which I think is the 476 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 9: more well Florida is our new is the news year. 477 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 9: So I'll try to do that one first. Uh, you know, 478 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 9: Florida is the emphasise the human cost of this and 479 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 9: you said the good news bad news. Obviously, this decisions 480 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 9: yesterday is bad news for women in Florida, bad news 481 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 9: for everybody who loves women in Florida, bad news for 482 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 9: women's healthcare in Florida, at least for the time being. 483 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 9: As a political matter, I'm here, sitting here. I got 484 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 9: Simone Sanders on one side. I got Lamiro over on 485 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 9: the other side. Let's just let's put it this way. 486 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 9: You know, Florida is a state that that Broughck Obama 487 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 9: won twice. Hillary Clinton lost it by I think a 488 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 9: point and a half or so in twenty sixteen, and 489 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,239 Speaker 9: Joe Biden lost it about double that amount, about three 490 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 9: points something three and a half points or something into 491 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 9: in twenty twenty, Trump increased his margin there. 492 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 2: Why did that happen. 493 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 9: It happened almost entirely for one reason, which was the 494 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 9: Hispanic vote in Florida, where Donald Trump did overperformed anybody's 495 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 9: expectations in Florida in twenty twenty. What's happened with Latino 496 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 9: votes over the course of the last three years, Trump has, 497 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 9: by all pulling that we have, has gotten stronger with 498 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 9: Hispanics than he was three years ago. This is why 499 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 9: people like John Lamir and a lot of people in 500 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 9: the Biden campaign look at Florida, have looked at Florida 501 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 9: and said, until this day, have looked at Florida and said, 502 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 9: that's not a battleground state anymore. That's not in the 503 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 9: six or seven states that are going to swing the election. 504 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 9: The big caveat to that is this Dobbs, this post 505 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 9: Dobbs era and an injecting abortion into the debate in Florida. 506 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 9: It is going to change things in Florida. It is 507 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 9: going to bring out new kind of democratic energy, at 508 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 9: least if we judge it on the base of everything 509 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 9: else we've seen post Dobbs. The question I think is 510 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 9: where are we going to be when we get to September. 511 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 9: And I don't think you can say right now that 512 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 9: there's anybody who is telling the truth in the Biden 513 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 9: campaign who says that they are convinced today that Florida 514 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 9: is now state they're going to go spend money in, 515 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 9: They're going to try to turn that into a battleground state. 516 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,959 Speaker 9: There's just too much data that suggests that it might 517 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 9: be out of reach. But I do think that if 518 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 9: we get to September and that race looks and things 519 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 9: have tightened, there to the point where it does look winnable, 520 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 9: you may see that become a reach state for the 521 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 9: Biden campaign, and that would obviously alter the whole calculus 522 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 9: the election. If Florida became a thing that was within 523 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 9: reach for Joe Biden, it would change the whole trajectory, 524 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 9: change the whole battle, the whole Battogrand matrix for the race, 525 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 9: because you really would go from not just six or 526 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 9: seven states, but you'd have this additional state with a 527 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,719 Speaker 9: giant number of electoral votes suddenly in play. I were 528 00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 9: right now sitting here today. I'm not going to bet 529 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 9: on that, but I'm certain the Biden get paid is 530 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 9: going to push at it over the course of the 531 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 9: next few months to see if they can nudge it 532 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 9: into that vicinity. 533 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 2: By the way, I love this guy. 534 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: He's like a hardcore lefty, but he's like, I'm not 535 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: gonna look like an idiot on national TV. And he 536 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: just basically said to them, like, Hey, what you're saying 537 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: probably not gonna happen. Like, hey, what you're describing, probably 538 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: not gonna happen. 539 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 2: What you're telling. 540 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: People is like that this is in play and that 541 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,479 Speaker 1: this is a real chance. Yeah, probably not right like 542 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: probably not, probably not, probably not gonna happen. Yeah, because 543 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen. It's Florida, and the women in 544 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: Florida are I guess, smarter than the women at MSNBC, 545 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: which it's not hard to do. It's not really even 546 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: a compliment. But this we're gonna turn Florida and women 547 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: are going to be angry in Florida. I don't believe it. 548 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: I think the majority of women are actually in favor 549 00:29:54,720 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: of choosing life. They're in favor of choosing life. As always, 550 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: please please share our podcasts anywhere you are on social media. 551 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 2: It helps other people find this show. 552 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: Please write us a five star review that helps us 553 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: as well, and we'll see you back here tomorrow