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Speaker 1: You know that I'm not just making this up, right.

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Speaker 2: You also have to like, it's not life. Isn't just mystical.

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00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 2: You know, there are very real world, grounded things that

435
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,879
Speaker 2: are happening that you have to pay attention to. And

436
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,639
Speaker 2: you can't just pick and choose the stuff that you

437
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 2: focus on. You got to kind of look at the

438
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:48,200
Speaker 2: whole picture, the whole picture.

439
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's a grounded approach. Yeah, very responsible.

440
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 2: I like that very growing up.

441
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,000
Speaker 1: Look at him, Look at him. So another thing we

442
00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,280
Speaker 1: talked about was your honest and I was waiting for

443
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:01,720
Speaker 1: you to make like a Uranus ship.

444
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just like I can't believe she pronounces

445
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 2: it that way, but like it's the grown up thing

446
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,680
Speaker 2: to do about your You say, I thought it's uranus.

447
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:10,679
Speaker 2: That's how I've always said it.

448
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 1: I feel like you just want to say it that way.

449
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 2: That's how I've always said it, uranus.

450
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 1: I mean, none of that surprises me that that's how

451
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,120
Speaker 1: you say it. But in school, okay, well I don't

452
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 1: know Mark, right, I mean, Marv says uranus, and I

453
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 1: prefer not to say your urinus if I can, because

454
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:32,480
Speaker 1: it's always met with a joke. So anyway, that energy

455
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 1: is very break out, breakthrough, break free is what Marv

456
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 1: describes it as. And so Pisces and Uranus have a

457
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,879
Speaker 1: lot going on there, not that we're doing astrology talk.

458
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,719
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding you guys, a little backstory, but I

459
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 1: was thinking about it, just as you just said the

460
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,120
Speaker 1: thing about your last relationship too, because it did kind

461
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,879
Speaker 1: of break down to then break you free, like you

462
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 1: have become this new version of yourself since that relationship,

463
00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 1: and you kind of need sometimes this breakdown to break free.

464
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of times we like want

465
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 1: to hold ourselves back from that because it's really scary

466
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 1: and it can feel almost like unconventional, like we're just

467
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 1: feel like we're supposed to have this security and go

468
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,199
Speaker 1: with the flow, and that energy isn't, you know, And

469
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 1: so we have a lot of that coming up, and

470
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 1: so maybe paying attention to the different ways that, like

471
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 1: if we feel like something's being shaken or being unearthed

472
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 1: in a way like almost to lean into it a

473
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 1: little bit more. Do you know what I mean? Have

474
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 1: you ever had a time in your life where you

475
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 1: were feeling like unsettled or uncertain and you leaned it anyway,

476
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 1: even if it was really scary. I know we've talked

477
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,159
Speaker 1: about when you moved to Nashville, which I relate to.

478
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 1: That was a big one for me, like upending my

479
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 1: whole life in Baton Rouge just because I just knew.

480
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,119
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know what it is about

481
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 1: that place, I just know that I have to be there.

482
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 1: I came here with no job, similar to you, I

483
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 1: didn't really have that many friends. I had a couple

484
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,639
Speaker 1: family members that lived here like extended family, but I

485
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 1: was just to do it. I remember my parents being

486
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 1: like wait what They were just like you don't have

487
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: anything you're going to and I was like, no, it's

488
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,640
Speaker 1: just like I'm just following my heart. Like I just knew.

489
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,719
Speaker 1: It was like an intuition thing. What about you.

490
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 2: I mean, definitely the Nashville thing. And I think I

491
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 2: say Nashville because obviously I've moved from Virginia to New York,

492
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 2: New York to LA. The Nashville thing to me. The

493
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,120
Speaker 2: reason why I highlight that one is because even though

494
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 2: I was staying in the same industry, I was like

495
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 2: flipping it on its head. I had worked in pop

496
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 2: and rock and alternative, and suddenly I was entering this

497
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 2: space that was country. And I also knew that at

498
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 2: the time, you know, I'd been warned not to come

499
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 2: in and act like, well, we're going to do things

500
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 2: my way. Yeah, I needed to learn the Nashville system,

501
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 2: which I'm grateful that I, you know, got that advice

502
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 2: because now being part of the Nashville system and we're

503
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 2: seeing the popularity in country music, we're experiencing a lot

504
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 2: of the what we call the coastal labels coming into

505
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,479
Speaker 2: town and trying to do it their way or our

506
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 2: talent away from us. So that was scary. I definitely

507
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 2: felt like I had a safety net, so it wasn't that,

508
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 2: you know, remarkable. But you know, I quit my first

509
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 2: job at Atlantic Records in New York, and that that

510
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 2: was a terrifying thing to me. But my gut was

511
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 2: telling me I had to do it. But my mind

512
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 2: was telling me everyone's going to think that you moved

513
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,199
Speaker 2: to New York and failed. But the truth was I

514
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 2: and I had to like learn this from myself, you know,

515
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,360
Speaker 2: through talking to people and just like trusting my intuition

516
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 2: was that I had achieved my dream. My dream had

517
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 2: come to an end and it was time for a

518
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 2: new one. And I didn't know that, but I knew it,

519
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 2: you know, And I was scaring it look like a failure.

520
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 2: And I was like, wait a minute, who can point

521
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 2: their finger it me inside? I failed. I did everything

522
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 2: I set out to do. It just wasn't that dream.

523
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 2: Wasn't meant to be forever.

524
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 1: Well, that's the interesting thing about the way our society

525
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,120
Speaker 1: is structured, though, isn't it. It's because it's like we

526
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 1: feel like, once we're set up. I think I've talked

527
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 1: about this before. It's like we think we got to

528
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 1: get to this d marker of get married, have a kid,

529
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 1: get this amazing job, but then it's like a lot

530
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: of people start having midlife crisis because they're like, is

531
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 1: that it? That's it? Like I'm here, I got the things,

532
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: and like I stop, And actually, I don't believe that

533
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 1: that's what our soul wants. Like I think we're constantly

534
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 1: evolving until the day we die, if we allow ourselves.

535
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: And so the security that you felt would have been

536
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: easy for you to stay in, Like that's what I hear.

537
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: It's like you had talked enough of an established place

538
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: to where you could have stayed that way forever. But

539
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 1: you probably were feeling unsettled or that calling or whatever

540
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: it was you're feeling, and you took the chance and

541
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: you followed it, which I think now you would say,

542
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: like the reward has been massive, right, Like what do

543
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: you feel like you've gained from that?

544
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 2: Well, I think every step in my career has felt

545
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 2: like a step forward. And you know, I'm I'm one

546
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 2: of the lucky ones because our business is so fickle

547
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 2: that there's I know plenty of people that got laid

548
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,479
Speaker 2: off from downsizing, and every time something downsizes, I mean

549
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 2: jobs go away, and there's it's not like there's just

550
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 2: a plethora of music business jobs out there, so I

551
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 2: know there's like a trail of dead behind me, and

552
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 2: somehow I've managed to stay in this business and continue

553
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 2: to grow in it for my whole career. I mean,

554
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 2: I honestly like, if I didn't do this, I don't

555
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 2: know what I would do. You know, if I got

556
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 2: fired tomorrow, it would feel like the world was in it.

557
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 2: I'm sure I would pick myself up and figure out

558
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 2: something because I have translatable skills, but I don't know

559
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,959
Speaker 2: that i'd want to do anything else. Yeah, to be honest,

560
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 2: so I feel really really fortunate, and even some of

561
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 2: those the scariest decisions that you know, I had to

562
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 2: just trust my gut ended up being right. You know.

563
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 2: I moved to New York City on a bus with

564
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 2: two suitcases on weekend, Yeah, my parents on a Greyhound

565
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 2: bus on like I went overnight. And when I got there,

566
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 2: I took a cab to my friend's apartment and he

567
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 2: wasn't home and I had to like sit in the

568
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 2: rain with my suit And this was pre cell phones.

569
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 1: Yeah wow. Yeah, I said this to you before the podcast,

570
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: and you were kind of like, I don't know, but

571
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 1: I'm curious, Like when you came out to me. That's

572
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 1: very rebellious almost because I know, like what you came

573
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: from and where you came from. Yeah, but you were like,

574
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: I don't know because like in society was it? But

575
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 1: at that time, you don't think that that was a

576
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: big one.

577
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 2: It's definitely like, yeah, I mean it was. I don't

578
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 2: know that it's that remarkable.

579
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: See, I think it is because you leed like becoming

580
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: true to yourself was more important than like living some

581
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: life that was externally pleasing to the people around you, right, And.

582
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 2: I guess maybe the reason why I say I don't

583
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 2: think it's remarkable is because it finally got to a

584
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 2: point where I had to do it. You know. It

585
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 2: wasn't because I was being outed or anything like that.

586
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 2: It was just like I could not continue to live

587
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 2: a lie, and so I had to do it. And

588
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 2: it was terrifying because it was like I thought my

589
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 2: world was gonna end.

590
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: Well, but you knew that moment would change everything.

591
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 2: Right, it would change everything. And the truth is it's

592
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 2: changed everything for the better, you know, Like I you know,

593
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 2: I can't say I can only speak from my experience,

594
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 2: but my family they're small town people, and that's all

595
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 2: they've ever really known, and I think it was a

596
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 2: surprise to them. I mean, I know it was a

597
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 2: surprise to them. They didn't know, which was hysterical to

598
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 2: me because I thought for sure they knew, and they've

599
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 2: come around and like they love me, and I don't

600
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 2: know that they'll ever really understand, but I don't think

601
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 2: they need to. I also, like, don't need to understand

602
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 2: their desires for each other. I just know my parents

603
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 2: love each other and that's what matters. So I guess

604
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 2: it doesn't feel that remarkable, but I know that there

605
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 2: are plenty of people in my situation that can never

606
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 2: and will never get to live their truth in.

607
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: Their entire lifetime. Like could you imagine I mean, you're

608
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: almost fifty, but imagine if you were still not out,

609
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: which is I think fairly common in the South.

610
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 2: And people like really you know, put themselves in a

611
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 2: pickle by getting married and having children, and then it's

612
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 2: like a domino effect that like they can't do it

613
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 2: because it ruins so many other things. Like I know

614
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,959
Speaker 2: several people that have fathers who have come out fairly

615
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 2: late in life, you know, like their children are adults.

616
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 2: And all the people that I know that have fathers

617
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 2: that did that. They love their dad and they're really

618
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 2: excited and all the things, but there's also a sadness

619
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 2: of like, how could you do that to mom? You know?

620
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 2: But I've read some really interesting stories about like these

621
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 2: situations where the mom is actually like had felt very

622
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 2: loved and taken care of. And if their children are

623
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 2: adults now, they grew up in a time where it

624
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 2: was like a lot more traditional, like this is the

625
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 2: male role in the family, this is the female role,

626
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 2: and outside of just having a lot of sex together,

627
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 2: like their family was exactly what they'd wanted. But you know,

628
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 2: it doesn't mean that there's not heartbreak when the truth

629
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 2: comes to be. But yeah, there's actually a family here

630
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 2: in Nashville that I think you're getting a realt They've

631
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 2: got a reality show coming. He's a New York Times

632
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 2: best selling author. There's actually a family here in Nashville

633
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 2: that I think they're getting a realit. They've got a

634
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 2: reality show coming. He's a New York Times best selling author.

635
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 2: For his name's Matthew Something. He writes children's books, Christian

636
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 2: children's books, and he came out.

637
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: And I can see why he would struggle see.

638
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he and his wife friends. I think they

639
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 2: might live next door to each other now, and they've

640
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 2: like figured out a make way to make it work.

641
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: And you know, like honestly, when people say love is love,

642
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 2: like it doesn't have to be a sexual thing, Like

643
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 2: he can have love for this woman and be really

644
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 2: happy that she is the mother of his children, but

645
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 2: still need to find sexual satisfaction in someone else. And

646
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 2: it's kind of a beautiful thing that they've been able

647
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 2: to sort of land here. That to me, is more

648
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 2: remarkable than coming out, because it's like he had to

649
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 2: like come out and rebuild. I guess I did too,

650
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 2: But I think.

651
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: You can't give yourself enough credit because I think I

652
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: do think nowadays it might sound a little bit crazy

653
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: to people to even imagine that. More so, although I

654
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,719
Speaker 1: think it's still very prevalent, because I think it's just

655
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: it's just talked about more. It's more accepted things like that,

656
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: But when you came out, it really wasn't. And like

657
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: I think a lot of these stories, like even the

658
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: story you just told, fall under that situation. But also

659
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,479
Speaker 1: like if you did go about your life of like

660
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: building a family or all that stuff, then the stakes

661
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: are just higher, so then you're almost like stuck in

662
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: a different kind of way. So anyway, I.

663
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 2: Think you're breaking a lot of hearts.

664
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. I just think anytime you're going against the grain

665
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: of what we deem quote unquote normal, it's an act

666
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: of courage and it's somewhat rebellious and unconventional, you know,

667
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: which would tie into your honest energy.

668
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. For me, the way that I see it is

669
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 2: like society, we've set up these norms. Yeah, this is

670
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 2: the way that society is supposed to to be. But

671
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 2: wouldn't the world be so much better if we weren't

672
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 2: all putting ourselves in these boxes and we were just

673
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 2: who we are, and we could accept people for who

674
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 2: they are, and then everyone could live with courage. It's like, right,

675
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 2: it's not to me. It's not that foreign of a

676
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 2: concept to just be able to have the courage to

677
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 2: be you. But we've trained ourselves to be so judgmental,

678
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 2: and it's so that someone's controlling that, Like someone came

679
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 2: up with these norms so that they could have control,

680
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 2: and now it's just accepted.

681
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and I think it was like something in us.

682
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,760
Speaker 1: You just want to feel normal, A lot of times,

683
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: and I think, like you want to feel when you

684
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: say that, it's almost like you just want to feel

685
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: the same as so you don't feel separate because there

686
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: is something within us that craves community. But I'm like you,

687
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, if everyone started showing up as their individual selves,

688
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: think about how much more productive our society would actually be,

689
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: because we all have these individual skill sets, right, and

690
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: a lot of times we're not even tapping into them

691
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: because we're trying to do things like we saw Susan

692
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: down the street do them, or you know, like anybody else,

693
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: and so you literally diminish your gifts when you do that,

694
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: instead of being able to work together and have the

695
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: kind of community that we probably all crave, which I'm hoping,

696
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 1: Like I keep having this feeling. I'm like, I just

697
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: really have this sense that like we're trying to move

698
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: in that direction, but it's gonna take a lot of

699
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: undoing first, because like you said, it's like where did

700
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: these programs even come from? Like who created these things?

701
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: But they're obviously not working anymore? Then Well that's mean,

702
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: But I mean I think even like if you want

703
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: to say that was the cause, I don't know that

704
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: that is what anybody wants anymore unless you're just really

705
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,240
Speaker 1: concerned with what it would mean for it to change.

706
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: And that feels scary to you.

707
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 2: Right.

708
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: Like, obviously all of this, like astrology, if you're following

709
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: at all, is coming in and being like yo, lean in.

710
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,760
Speaker 1: You know, you kind of touched on picking ourselves apart,

711
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,760
Speaker 1: which is very much the energy of like this Virgo

712
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: full moon we have coming this month, and it's just like,

713
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: why are we so hard on ourselves? Why do we

714
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: ask ourselves to have this unattainable perfection? I do it,

715
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,919
Speaker 1: I know you do it? And then we miss all

716
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: the good stuff? Like if I gave half of the

717
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: energy to focusing on the positive qualities about me as

718
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: I do on like the negatives, I mean god, it

719
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: would open me up so much, you know, or like

720
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: focusing on all the positive feedback we get versus the

721
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: one negative. It's just like, why do we do that

722
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: to ourselves? What is that coming from? Where is that

723
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: being driven or what is that being driven by?

724
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great question. And the crazy part about

725
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 2: it too is it's so easy and admirable to recognize

726
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 2: in other people when they possess that quality of like

727
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 2: confidence and authenticity and yeah, authenticity and like leaning into

728
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 2: what they love about themselves. And you know, I know

729
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 2: we've brought up mel already, but I think that, like

730
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 2: that's one of the things I love. Yeah, that's one

731
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 2: of the things that I'm really loving about listening to

732
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 2: her because she's very open about the shift that she's

733
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 2: had in her life and that's why she is doing

734
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 2: all of this writing and podcasting now because she was

735
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 2: once in our shoes where she was full of doubt

736
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 2: and never thought anything was going to work out and

737
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 2: all of the things. And you look at the I mean,

738
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 2: she's kind of building like this amazing media empire just

739
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 2: off the back of like loving herself, being being positive.

740
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 2: I Mean, it's funny because like sometimes I'm listening, I'm like,

741
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 2: this is really repetitive. But I'm like, maybe that's the

742
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 2: fucking answer. Is that we have to remind ourselves over

743
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 2: and over and over again that we are worthy, we

744
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 2: are loved, we're special, we have something to contribute you.

745
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 2: And you know, I think that it all goes back

746
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 2: to that control thing, because for those of us who

747
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 2: don't believe that we're worthy or valued or whatever, have something.

748
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 2: They probably grew up in a house where they were

749
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 2: told that they were worthless. No one loves you. All

750
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 2: of the things that a horrible parent would do, and

751
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 2: there's plenty of them out there, you know. And sometimes

752
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 2: it's not even that direct. You just have parents are

753
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 2: too busy working to actually like spend the proper amount

754
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 2: of time or hug you or tell you that they

755
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 2: love you enough, so you're not hearing it, so you

756
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 2: start to tell yourself that. So, yeah, I just think

757
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 2: it's so.

758
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: I just think it's yeah.

759
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 2: I think yeah. I think it's just really important to

760
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 2: remind ourselves of that. And whether we need to go

761
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 2: listen to Mel Robbins say it over and over and

762
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 2: over again so that we ingrain it into our minds,

763
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 2: or we can just wake up every morning and have

764
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 2: a sticky note on our mirror that says you are loved.

765
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 2: And even if that's just from yourself, that's enough.

766
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: You're saying that, And there's a sign behind you right

767
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: now that says love yourself.

768
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, love yourself.

769
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: Didn't you paint that? I think I remember.

770
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 2: Wheeler painted that for me. Yeah, it's it was a mirror,

771
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 2: it's a mural, and I wonder if it's still there.

772
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. We saw a mural in Ashville. Yeah,

773
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's so much instruction has happened. I

774
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: love what you said though about sometimes it's repetitive, and

775
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: then you were like, wait, but maybe it's that simple.

776
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: And that's why, because I do feel like in some

777
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: ways I've gone all the way around the world and

778
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: looked for things in jobs and relationships, in therapy and

779
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,240
Speaker 1: healing and all these things, and all of that stuff,

780
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: and all of that journey for me was very beneficial,

781
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: and I don't think I would have been able to

782
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 1: get to the place that I am now without it.

783
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 1: But it is true, like I really get back to

784
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: every day, it all is within me every time, and

785
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: that is the answer. It's never outside of me. It

786
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: never is. And it's always about loving myself or being

787
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: enough tapped into my own intuition that I find the

788
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: answers and obviously seeking guidance where we need it. But

789
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: like it all comes back to us every time, and

790
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: if we hate ourselves, you're never going to be able

791
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 1: to have that relationship with yourself or that journey with

792
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: yourself to get there.

793
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 2: Right, Well, it's it's I mean, it also comes back

794
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 2: to you saying like, I don't understand why I will

795
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 2: focus on the one bad comment I've got. It's the

796
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 2: same thing when you're talking to yourself. It's it's so

797
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 2: true if you're constantly like I'm too fat, I'm ugly,

798
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 2: I can't find a date, blah blah blah, like you're

799
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 2: hearing that, like that is what you are telling yourself.

800
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 2: And by the way, no one else is saying it.

801
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: No else, nobody else is.

802
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 2: Sitting around talking about what your body looks like. Yeah,

803
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 2: and the more that you tell yourself, it is a

804
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 2: self fulfilling prophecy. And it's like I think that if

805
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 2: you wake up in the morning and you do say

806
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 2: one nice thing to yourself or do one nice thing

807
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 2: for yourself, it starts your day in a very different light.

808
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 2: And don't I don't think it's that hard, but I

809
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 2: do think it takes repetition to become a habit. So yeah,

810
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 2: you just have to do it over and over and

811
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 2: over again. And you know, it's funny because like even

812
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 2: the clarity and what your mom and dad were saying,

813
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 2: and like the instinctness, like I attribute this like to

814
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 2: the fact that I have been binging Mel Robbins.

815
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: I think we all get our lessons and I hear

816
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: our growth from someone else. Like So however, I always

817
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 1: say to people like I just want to expose everyone

818
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: to all the different avenues that you can have a

819
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: different facilitator or different kind of work that resonates with you,

820
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: because like Mel really resonates with you, like you're really

821
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: learning something from that, and so great, like who cares

822
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,479
Speaker 1: how you get it? If you get it, Like that's

823
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: always the best thing to me. One of the things

824
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 1: that I've been doing in the mornings, if anyone has

825
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 1: insight tim er, the facilitator is Kenneth Sorez. I can't

826
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: remember if I've talked about this on the podcast, but

827
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: he does all of these meditations that are just I

828
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: AM affirmations and it's literally what you're talking about, like

829
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: you program your brain. It's ten minutes in the morning

830
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: that I just play these affirmations. But we don't realize

831
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: how much we're taking in in our subconscious I mean,

832
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: Marvi and I were just talking about this. Ninety five

833
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: percent of our thoughts and our actions are driven by

834
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: our subconscious mind. Only five percent is conscious so it's

835
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: like all of these underlying negative thoughts that we have

836
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: about ourselves, about the world, about whatever, are probably driving

837
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: more of our decisions than we would ever even know.

838
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,959
Speaker 1: And so if you're only feeding it negative stuff, that's

839
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: going to be what your actions say and what you

840
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: get back as well. So, like when I do these,

841
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 1: or sometimes when I can't sleep, he has these like

842
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: deep sleep affirmations. He literally says, like your body knows

843
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: how to sleep. At the beginning, he like reminds my

844
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: body it knows how to sleep, and it just starts

845
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: in on these like positive affirmations that go for like

846
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: two hours. But every single time I do that, I

847
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: wake up in the morning in such a more light,

848
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: like a lighter way, a more positive mindset. I'm like

849
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 1: ready to take on the day, even if my sleep

850
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 1: was disrupted at some point, and it's just starting to

851
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:50,399
Speaker 1: like really resonate with me or really register how important

852
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: the thought process and our subconscious thinking really really really is.

853
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 2: I agree. Yeah. The doctor that she entered that of

854
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 2: interview today, he said he does a five minute workout

855
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 2: every day, like whether it's the push ups or kettlebells,

856
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 2: and he gets up really early and he does it.

857
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 2: He says, he wakes up at five am, and he's like,

858
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 2: that doesn't have to be for everybody, Like, you have

859
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 2: five minutes no matter what time you wake up. But

860
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 2: he starts the coffee pot and then does his five

861
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 2: minute workout in the kitchen, and there his reasoning for it,

862
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 2: and he's like, I understand that a five minute workout

863
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Speaker 2: is not going to make me Arnold Schwarzenegger. But what

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Speaker 2: it does is it sets the tone for his day,

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Speaker 2: and he's already done something good for himself, so he

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Speaker 2: treats himself better for the rest of the day. And

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Speaker 2: he's like, it's like a habit. He mentioned he was like,

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Speaker 2: imagine if you didn't brush your teeth right two minutes

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Speaker 2: in the morning and two minutes at night, like eventually

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Speaker 2: your teeth would rotten fall out. So it's just a

871
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 2: compounding thing too. It's like, over your lifetime, if you

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Speaker 2: are doing that five minute workout every day, you've collectively

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Speaker 2: given your body a lot of love that most people

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Speaker 2: aren't doing. So he's like, there were the two points

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Speaker 2: there was like the habitual nature of it is over time,

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Speaker 2: you're doing something actually really healthy for your body too.

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Speaker 2: You give yourself a nice push in the morning. It

878
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 2: just starts your day, right, And I think most of us,

879
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,240
Speaker 2: like we roll out of bed, our phone is our alarm,

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00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 2: we get on Instagram, we feel like less than and

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00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 2: then we're in our emails and fuck, we've messed up

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Speaker 2: our morning already. I know, I'm guilty.

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Speaker 1: You're reading the news and all of a sudden you're like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: the world's ending.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, if you can want to get some sunlight,

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00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 2: you know, like they say that's really important, like sun

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Speaker 2: sky before screen, guy before screen. Did you no, I

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Speaker 2: think that's something that I saw on Instagram fund. You know,

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Speaker 2: but then there are people that have to leave before work,

890
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 2: but you know, before the sun comes up. Yeah, but

891
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 2: you know, try to avoid any sort of outside influence

892
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,919
Speaker 2: first thing in the morning, so that you can spend

893
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 2: some time with yourself, like I have healthy thoughts. You

894
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 2: can read, you can journal, you can meditate. There's a

895
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Speaker 2: million things that you can do. I'm gonna buy an

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Speaker 2: alarm clock.

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Speaker 1: Oh so you don't look at your phone. I like

898
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: that idea. Yeah, go on, old school.

899
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go old school.

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Speaker 1: Love it. Well, I love all this And so if

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Speaker 1: you guys are more curious about some of the energies

902
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 1: we talked about, or if you're into astrology, definitely go

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Speaker 1: listen to my podcast with Marv that came out on Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: I do like this with you where we're like we're

905
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 1: almost bringing it down to earth kind of like what

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Speaker 1: we talked about, Like me and Marv are up in

907
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Speaker 1: the clouds discussing what the planets are doing, and then

908
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: you and I are like, here's how this is playing

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Speaker 1: out in my life, like so here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it helps it Like I'm going to

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Speaker 2: be a pro at astrology before the end of the

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Speaker 2: year because now, well.

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Speaker 1: I understand it's coming into your brain more than you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now it's yeah, because it feels very real world

915
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Speaker 2: to Yeah, you discuss it this way.

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Speaker 1: Well, if you guys have any thoughts on this or

917
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Speaker 1: any astrology or energy that you want to discuss with us,

918
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Speaker 1: you can always email us at the Edge at velvest

919
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Speaker 1: edge dot com. And I swear to god it goes

920
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: such a long way if you slide into our dms

921
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,760
Speaker 1: or any sort of feedback that you guys have about

922
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Speaker 1: these podcasts, what you're liking, what you're not liking, Like

923
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 1: we just love to hear from you. And truly I

924
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 1: have this new mentality of where I'm going to try

925
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Speaker 1: to start saying this to myself and also telling others,

926
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Speaker 1: Like there's so much negativity out there, there's so many trolls,

927
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Speaker 1: there's so many haters. We positive people or the people

928
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 1: who have positive feedback or anything like that, like we

929
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: got to get louder. We can't keep letting them run

930
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Speaker 1: the world, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: So, anyway, if you want to get loud in my

933
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Speaker 1: DM's and a positive slide on in, it's at Velvet's Edge. Chip.

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Speaker 2: I'm at Chip doors. It's Chip d r scch.

935
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Speaker 1: But as you guys go into the weekends and you're

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Speaker 1: living on the edge, I hope you always remember too.

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Speaker 2: Casual Fie