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Speaker 2: But uh, again, we're just excited to add a really

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Speaker 4: You guys took a lot of time on the clock.

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Speaker 6: You know, I had a chance to get some breakfast

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Speaker 4: The fact that he had only one year at defensive end.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we're in phase one so of our off season

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Speaker 2: Decision just tious.

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Speaker 6: How much more did you.

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Speaker 1: Of Yeah, Abdul's one of those guys that as a

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Speaker 2: You always ask if you guys can go home. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: Well, I would say, Charlotte was you know, it's not recruiting.

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Speaker 6: You're not recruiting athletes to come and they get to

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Speaker 6: choose you get to choose them. But we had we

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Speaker 6: had very good conversations with uh with him again, he's

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Speaker 6: played multiple spots off the ball, linebacker, moved and was

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Speaker 6: very productive on the edge, and he's a very intelligent player.

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Speaker 6: So again, once we get him here and he gets

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Speaker 6: ingrained in our system and gets to be around all

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Speaker 6: the guys, there's you know, there's a long time here

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Speaker 6: we're excited to have him.

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Speaker 1: With conversations you've already had about moving up from thirty

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Speaker 1: four and is that where you've planned to go and

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Speaker 1: make a lot of phone calls about that.

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Speaker 2: Now, this is an interesting drafts.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually excited to go see who's been taken so

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Speaker 2: You know, it's gonna be it's gonna be interesting. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: we'll see how the night goes. We'll see.

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Speaker 1: Obviously we're not far from you know, the back end

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Speaker 1: of the you know, the first round. So we we

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Speaker 1: have five or six players that when we talk about, hey,

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Speaker 1: if they're there, you know, we could talk about it,

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Speaker 1: or you know, we're sitting in a good position tomorrow

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Speaker 1: when you have the second pick in the second round.

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Speaker 1: People sit around all day on Friday and you know,

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Speaker 1: they fall in love with guys, so you know, you

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Speaker 1: there's a couple.

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Speaker 2: Of different avenues. I'm just excited to.

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Speaker 1: Go up there again because you know, we've been so

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Speaker 1: focused on what we're doing. I haven't really heard a

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Speaker 1: on behind us. So I'm excited to you know, it's

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Speaker 1: a great time of year for us.

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Speaker 2: It's fun.

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Speaker 1: We put a lot of work into it, so it's

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Speaker 1: fun to see how how everything goes and sit up

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Speaker 1: there with the scouting staff and personnel guys and you know,

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Speaker 1: just see what other players, you know, other teams thought

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Speaker 1: a players. So it's a fun weekend.

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Speaker 2: Thanks