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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in everybody.

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Speaker 2: Tuesday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

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Speaker 2: starts right now.

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Speaker 1: And my, oh my, more big news today.

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Speaker 2: This one anticipated at least unlike yesterday, where the shock

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Speaker 2: of tucker Gate and the changes over at Fox News

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Speaker 2: was ripping through the whole media ecosystem, and certainly here

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Speaker 2: on the show or Clay and I are both personally

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Speaker 2: and professionally fans of Tucker's. Today the news though, is uh, well,

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Speaker 2: there's more of the aftermath of the firing yesterday. But

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden looking back at the center of the political

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Speaker 2: fight here, Joe Biden has officially declared that he will

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Speaker 2: in fact be running for president in the next election cycle.

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Speaker 2: For any of you who doubted me on this one,

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Speaker 2: I told you. The ruthless, absolutely unprincipled, and reckless Democrats

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Speaker 2: don't care how absurd this is, don't care what this

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Speaker 2: looks like, have no feelings of remorse, no feelings of shame.

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Speaker 1: About any of this. They're gonna put this guy forward here.

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Speaker 2: We're not gonna I'm gonna jump in because we don't have.

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Speaker 1: To listen to this whole thing.

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Speaker 2: But here is Joe Biden Clay releasing his re election campaign.

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Speaker 1: Video, and it tells us where this is heading. I

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Speaker 1: think play one.

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Speaker 3: Personal freedom is fundamental to who we are as Americans.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing more important, nothing more sacred. That's been the

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Speaker 3: work of my first term to fight for our democracy.

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Speaker 3: But you know, around the country, Maggie, extremists are line

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Speaker 3: enough to take on those bedrock freedoms, cutting Social Security

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Speaker 3: that you've paid for your entire life, of cutting taxes

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Speaker 3: for the very wealthy, dictating what healthcare.

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Speaker 1: This is as women can make.

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Speaker 3: Banning books and telling people who they can love, all

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Speaker 3: I'm making more difficult for you to be able to vote.

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Speaker 1: That's why I'm running for re election.

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Speaker 3: Every generation Americas have faced the moment when they have

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Speaker 3: to defend democracy, stand up for our personal freedom, stand

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Speaker 3: up for the right to vote, in our civil rights.

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Speaker 1: And this is our moment.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Claiy, just just a couple of things here, first

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Speaker 2: thoughts for me, and then I want to hear your

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Speaker 2: your thirty thousand foot view of this. It's the Biden

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Speaker 2: Barrage of bromides, which we all knew was going to

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Speaker 2: happen the most boiler plate you know, our savor democracy.

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Speaker 2: It's about who you love, it's about who you love

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Speaker 2: or what was he even talking about.

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Speaker 1: It's this craziness.

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Speaker 2: But it's going to be a combination with Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: of you know, defensive democracy, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, very you know you're going to see in these videos.

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Speaker 2: Fields of grain, American eagle images, you know, fading in

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Speaker 2: and out of the background. All of a sudden, the

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Speaker 2: Democrats are going to pretend to like America again, and

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden is going to pretend that the middle of

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Speaker 2: the country is something that he agrees with instead of

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Speaker 2: actually despises and undermines at every point.

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Speaker 1: You're running against a different campaign than the presidency of

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden. That's what I see.

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Speaker 4: Biden is the trojan horse candidate. They found an old

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Speaker 4: white guy who seems unthreatening and frankly a little bit

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Speaker 4: doddering buck. What stands out to me when I just

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Speaker 4: listen to the audio, and I would encourage it's important

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Speaker 4: for you out there to go listen and watch Joe

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Speaker 4: Biden's announcement. And even if you're rolling your eyes, and

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Speaker 4: even if you're like, oh, please, you need to understand,

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Speaker 4: strip away your own personal opinions and just watch it

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Speaker 4: and try to understand the story that Joe Biden is telling,

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Speaker 4: and the story that Joe Biden is telling, Buck, even

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Speaker 4: as you hear him talk. He even slurs a little

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Speaker 4: bit in his campaign announcement, which is taped and he

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Speaker 4: probably got to do one hundred times until they got

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Speaker 4: the tone just right. The message that he is sending

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Speaker 4: is that he is a moderate, steady, normal voice for America.

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Speaker 4: And this is my biggest concern. I think we are

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Speaker 4: barreling towards a Trump Biden rematch full speed right. You should,

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Speaker 4: if you're out there listening to us right now, be

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Speaker 4: expecting today that you are going to see a complete

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Speaker 4: rematch of twenty twenty and Buck, what I can't stop

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Speaker 4: thinking about, Okay, what I can't stop thinking about is

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Speaker 4: how many people are willing to change their minds because

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Speaker 4: we talked last night at our event here we're down

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Speaker 4: in Naples, Fort Myers. To me, one of the scariest

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Speaker 4: things that's going on in the country right now is

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Speaker 4: most people make up their mind on an issue, and

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Speaker 4: whatever the facts are that continue to come out.

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Speaker 1: COVID was a perfect example, on.

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Speaker 4: This, they stay steadfast committed to whatever they believed. If

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Speaker 4: you thought masks were necessary on kids, it doesn't matter

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Speaker 4: that that's now been proven untrue. You're still able to

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Speaker 4: advocate for that. Joe Biden hasn't apologized, Buck, for demanding

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Speaker 4: that eighty four million Americans get the COVID shot, which

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Speaker 4: has now been pulled off the market, the original first

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Speaker 4: two shots through OSHA regulations that were struck down by

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Speaker 4: the Supreme Court. Joe Biden hasn't apologized for getting all

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Speaker 4: of that wrong, because it's more important that he was

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Speaker 4: on that side when he was.

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Speaker 1: And so who's going to change their mind? Right? Like,

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Speaker 1: how many people?

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Speaker 4: This is the essence of the twenty twenty four campaign.

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Speaker 4: How many people are willing to change their mind? And

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Speaker 4: the second part of this is how many fewer people

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Speaker 4: might be willing to vote in a rematch of Trump Biden.

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Speaker 4: Let's just accept the numbers that are out there, Buck.

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Speaker 4: Let's say that Trump got seventy five million votes. Okay,

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Speaker 4: let's say that Biden got eighty one million votes. And

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Speaker 4: I know all of you out there can say, oh,

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Speaker 4: but you know, I'm not arguing about those are the

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Speaker 1: Those are the numbers.

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Speaker 4: You could be like, hey, the scoreboard got the thing wrong,

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Speaker 4: but that's one hundred if I'm doing the math right, buck.

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Speaker 4: One hundred and fifty six million people voted in twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty the election. As I have said for a long

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Speaker 4: time on this program, twenty thousand people change their vote

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Speaker 4: in Arizona, in Wisconsin and Georgia, and this outcome is different.

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Speaker 1: Trump wins.

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Speaker 4: But what do you think how many of those one

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Speaker 4: hundred and fifty six million people, let's presume everybody who

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Speaker 4: voted in twenty twenty goes out and votes again, how

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Speaker 4: many of them are actually willing to change the way

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Speaker 4: they voted the.

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Speaker 2: I think the percentage is less than one percent. It

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Speaker 2: is minute, and that's why it's it's a remarkable thing.

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Speaker 2: You're going to see two massive warring messaging machines, dollars,

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Speaker 2: there's literally billions of dollars that will be spent on this, and.

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Speaker 1: It's all to shift. Let's call it less.

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Speaker 2: Than one hundred thousand votes, most likely in less than

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Speaker 1: It's crazy to think that's what is overwhelming.

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Speaker 2: Now again, I always say this, and I think history

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Speaker 2: will prove this right.

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Speaker 1: No one can predict the future.

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Speaker 2: We leave open the possibility here of what in analysis

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Speaker 2: of the CIA you would have called the fat taiale

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Speaker 2: events or black You know, this is analysis in general.

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Speaker 2: People do this to companies and stuff, but fat tail

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Speaker 2: or black swan events meeting low probability, high impact. Clean

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Speaker 2: and I were talking about this over coffee this morning,

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Speaker 2: which when you have two candidates who are basically both

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Speaker 2: eighty ish yep, is another real possibility here. Just are

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Speaker 2: they able to go the whole distance here? Okay, fine,

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Speaker 2: putting that aside for a second, though, Here is the

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden that the Republicans are going to be running

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Speaker 2: against to try to get less than one percent of

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Speaker 2: the vote to switch over. Maybe we get a sweeping

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Speaker 2: you know, Oh, it's going to be amazing. We have

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Speaker 1: Keep in mind, Trump didn't win in.

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Speaker 2: Twenty sixteen by five million votes or something, so we're

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Speaker 2: just let's let's all keep it real. Here's day with

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Speaker 2: in reality, Trump can win again. But Trump isn't going

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Speaker 2: to win by five million votes. He's going to probably

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Speaker 2: fifty thousand and on to a tiny number. Whoever comes

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Speaker 2: in to be a Republican in this worth following elections

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Speaker 2: is going to be fighting over a likely a similar slice.

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Speaker 1: Of the pie.

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Speaker 2: That's just if anyone has any numbers that prove anything else,

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Speaker 2: please share them with us. I'd love to see that. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So then how are you who are you running against

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Speaker 2: is funny. They're not even excited about this because they

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Speaker 2: know that, oh god, it's going to be Joe Biden again.

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Speaker 2: Play here's CBS play twenty seven guys ahead.

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Speaker 5: Of the reelection announcement is CBS News poll found Demo

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Speaker 5: except Biden's reelection bid, but aren't necessarily excited about it.

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Speaker 5: And still nearly half of Democrats don't want the eighty

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Speaker 2: Now here's the thing that's a statistic that we can

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Speaker 2: all cite Clay that shows that what we're saying is true,

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Speaker 2: which is that people realize this guy, a lot of people,

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Speaker 1: He's kind of a joke and a clown.

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Speaker 2: I would argue that ninety nine percent of the people

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Speaker 2: get to the independent side of it. Why is he

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Speaker 2: framing this as democracy? It's going to be about this

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four election for the Democrats, stability, normalcy, defense

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Speaker 2: of democracy, all of which are phrases. What does that

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Speaker 2: It doesn't. The Democrats are locked in. They would vote

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Speaker 1: They don't care as long as it's a Democrat for

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Speaker 1: that middle slice. Though we saw what they did in

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Speaker 2: They're going to run on, like I said, these bromides,

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Speaker 2: these sweeping pablem pacification issues of Oh, it's about democracy

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Speaker 2: want to vote against democracy.

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Speaker 1: I think that's great. You know, that's what they're going

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Speaker 2: The Joe Biden the radical that pushes for transgender surgery

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Speaker 2: for twelve year olds from the White House.

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Speaker 1: Which he does, by the way, that is not what

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Speaker 4: People didn't vote for Joe Biden in twenty twenty, and

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Speaker 4: they're not going to vote for Joe Biden in twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty four. They voted against Trump. And this is important.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Joe Biden can't draw a full arena of supporters.

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Speaker 4: There's nobody out there who's like an ardent supporter of

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Speaker 4: Joe Biden, which is why I look at the numbers

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Speaker 4: from twenty twenty and I say, maybe the best thing

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Speaker 4: that could happen is not people changing their minds, but

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Speaker 4: many of the people who bought.

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Speaker 1: Into Trump is Hitler and the.

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Speaker 4: Terrifying nature of COVID because you talk about low probability,

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Speaker 4: big impact event that was COVID. Right, If we had

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Speaker 4: been having this conversation in April of twenty nineteen, we

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Speaker 4: In January of twenty twenty, we would have said Trump

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Speaker 4: is in really good shape for reelection. And then COVID

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Speaker 4: Certainly nothing that if you voted for Trump and twenty

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Speaker 1: But it does come down to, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, we could sit here all day and talk about,

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Speaker 1: Know, yeah, by six points or seven points or whatever.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna win Texas, Okay, how do we win Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Arizona, Georgia.

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Speaker 1: Recession. I hope that's wrong. Could be great.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I would just want all of you out

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Speaker 4: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We appreciate

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Speaker 4: rolling through a Tuesday edition of the program. Talked a

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Speaker 4: How do we think Biden will stack up? What do

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Speaker 4: From gloating over Tucker Carlson being out at Fox News,

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Speaker 4: and I do think it's important to understand the left

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Speaker 4: But listen to this. This is AOC gloating.

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Speaker 6: Tucker Carlson is out at Fox News.

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Speaker 1: Couldn't have happened to a better guy.

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Speaker 6: What I will say though, is well, I'm very glad

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Speaker 8: Re emerge out to grip over like the end of

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Speaker 1: Know, Clay.

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Speaker 2: I think it's important that everyone understands that their their

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Speaker 2: the idea is to deplatform any opposition whatsoever. And in

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Speaker 1: So it's anybody who is a threat to their power.

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Speaker 2: That is the individual, that is the show that is

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Speaker 2: If somebody thinks that AOC is not stupid, I think

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Speaker 1: Giving an opposing point of view.

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Speaker 2: Half the country Clay is not allowed to have media

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Speaker 2: you know, Disney make movies about how their kids need

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Speaker 2: And that's how she really feels. You know, this should

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Speaker 2: be fascinating, right, Okay, AOC Tucker Carlson needs to be deplatformed.

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Speaker 2: Who on the right doesn't need to be deplatformed? Ask

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Speaker 2: her that question. Someone should push to her, who is Okay,

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Speaker 4: And that's what's so disappointing to me about this result

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Speaker 4: They really are coming for all of us with I

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Speaker 4: And Tucker was the most attacked person in right leaning

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Speaker 4: But I think your point's a good one. First of all,

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Speaker 4: I think they do incredible work. We'd be like, no, like,

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Speaker 4: we'd be like, oh my goodness, we are in trouble. Also,

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Speaker 4: I always think it's important because a lot of people

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Speaker 4: I disagree with your idea, and here's why. Is actually

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Speaker 4: And I think what Tucker is going to find Buck

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Speaker 4: It actually gives you way more freedom. And I'll just

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Speaker 4: at all afraid of saying exactly what I think at

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Speaker 4: OutKick because I knew that I owned my own business

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Speaker 4: and nobody else could fire me. In fact, we used

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Speaker 4: to have a running joke where people would demand that

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Speaker 4: OutKick fire Clay Travis because they didn't understand that I

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Speaker 4: was not an employee, because most people think about life

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Speaker 4: as employees because most of us are employee.

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Speaker 2: You were telling them to call the manager, I said,

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Speaker 2: not realizing that you were, in fact the manager.

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Speaker 4: I would regularly say, oh man, when Outkicks management finds

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Speaker 4: out what Clay Travis said, now there is going to

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Speaker 4: be hell to pay. And they didn't understand that. We

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Speaker 4: would have fun with that on social media. But really

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Speaker 4: the power of controlling your future comes down to owning

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Speaker 4: your media freedom, because otherwise there's always someone out there

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Speaker 4: who can try to go to a boss and get

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Speaker 4: you fired.

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Speaker 1: And what do we do? Last night, we had an

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Speaker 1: amazing time.

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Speaker 4: By the way, I want to thank our audience ninety

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Speaker 4: two five down in Fort Myers and Naples.

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Speaker 1: We had hundreds of people who came out last night

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Speaker 1: to see.

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Speaker 4: Us, And at one point, Buck, I asked a question

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Speaker 4: I always love to ask of any audience. I speak to,

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Speaker 4: how many of you out there in this audience have

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Speaker 4: had something that you want to say publicly and you've

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Speaker 4: decided not to post it. Every hand went up in

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Speaker 4: the entire crowd, and Buck, I think one reason people

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Speaker 4: respond to this show so well, and certainly respond to

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Speaker 4: Tucker in the degree to which they do, is because

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Speaker 4: Tucker says what they wish they could say, right.

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Speaker 1: And I hear all the time. I've never done media.

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Speaker 1: We've talked about this.

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Speaker 4: I've never done a job before where people come up

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Speaker 4: to me and say thank you for doing it. That's

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Speaker 4: the number one thing that I hear when I'm out

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Speaker 4: about people just come up and say, Like we were

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Speaker 4: eating breakfast this morning, guy comes up and he's just like, Hey,

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Speaker 4: thank you guys for doing what you do. Do you

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Speaker 4: ever get thanked for having a job before?

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Speaker 1: No. I mean when I was in the CIA, nobody

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Speaker 1: knew so well that's.

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Speaker 4: A good point.

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Speaker 2: Nobody was like, thank you for trying to find good love,

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Speaker 2: because that would have been bad for bad for business,

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Speaker 2: for me, for everybody to know. No, it was amazing

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Speaker 2: last night seeing all the people come out. And I

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Speaker 2: also think, you know, when we make a promise on

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Speaker 2: air here to any one of our affiliates and therefore

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Speaker 2: the audience that is the heart and soul of that affiliate,

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Speaker 2: that we're going to come out there and do something,

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Speaker 2: you know, we do it.

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Speaker 1: We follow through on.

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Speaker 2: It's the second time in four myers. Obviously in what

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Speaker 2: now eighteen months or so or no, but just about

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Speaker 2: a year, right, you were there just about a year ago.

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Speaker 2: And we're going to continue to do this because we

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Speaker 2: want to see and speak to the people who are

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Speaker 2: the reason we're able to continue to do this job.

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Speaker 2: And I think it's this is a moment of solidarity,

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Speaker 2: I think with Tucker because everybody on the right realizes

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Speaker 2: that the plan is not to have more reasonable conservative voices.

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Speaker 2: The plan is not to have more factual conservative voices.

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Speaker 2: AOC and the Pelosi Schumer Biden Democrats want a uniparty,

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, a mono party. Really, they want a single

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Speaker 2: party state and they want that first and foremost to

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Speaker 2: be reflected in media and culture, because once you of that,

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Speaker 2: then everything else actually just falls into place for them.

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Speaker 2: So they're trying to find every way possible. I mean, look,

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Speaker 2: we had a few. There's some good news here right.

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Speaker 2: There are a few beachheads one talk radio thanks to

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Speaker 2: audiences like the one that we saw last night, and

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Speaker 2: all over the country that listens to this show continues

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Speaker 2: to be a fortress of sanity.

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Speaker 1: Amidst all the craziness, there's Elon.

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Speaker 2: What Elon has done at Twitter, I'm actually now very bullish.

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Speaker 2: I can't actually invest in the stocks as part, but

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Speaker 2: I'm very bullish on Twitter. With Elon in charge, I

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Speaker 2: think that he took over a complete you know, if

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Speaker 2: you think about it, like imagine if somebody who was

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Speaker 2: a brilliant conservative media person took over like the Huffington Post,

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Speaker 2: just like a left wing trash heap. Think about how

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Speaker 2: long it would take. I mean, you've run businesses right.

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Speaker 2: To turn that around is not going to be an

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Speaker 2: easy or quick thing. Yeah, Twitter, when you add the

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Speaker 2: technical issues on top of the political and managerial issues,

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Speaker 2: I think, but anyway, Elon is doing really important stuff.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't even it's funny, it's not these

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Speaker 2: the other day. I don't even think about Facebook and Instagram.

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Speaker 2: Instagram is for like taking a cute photo of a

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Speaker 2: dog and putting it up now because I can't. I

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Speaker 2: know that they're not letting me get any reach. I

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Speaker 2: know that, and you know a lot of these other

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Speaker 2: platforms now conservatives don't even think about.

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Speaker 1: But you know, Rumbles thriving and doing well.

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Speaker 2: You saw Rumblestock, Rumblestock pretty substantially yesterday, you know what.

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Speaker 1: So that's good.

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Speaker 2: There's good news in the background of this current media discussion.

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Speaker 2: It's obviously going to affect twenty twenty four a lot

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Speaker 2: how all this comes together. They want to have total

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Speaker 2: control over the pieces on the chessboard, the clay, that

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Speaker 2: the one, you know, the one that I don't have

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Speaker 2: an answer for. I don't know is what this really

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Speaker 2: means for Fox News. I don't know what this means

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Speaker 2: for Fox News. I am confident that there will be people,

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Speaker 2: based on what we've seen so far, who view this

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Speaker 2: as a transgression of their loyalty and the brand and

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Speaker 2: the network, and they will stop watching. I don't know

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Speaker 2: how many of you think it's the toughest to replace

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Speaker 2: in Fox News history.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: Bill O'Reilly was there for over twenty years, and everyone said,

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Speaker 2: oh my gosh, Bill O'Riley was.

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Speaker 1: A king of cable news.

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Speaker 2: And you know, but I don't think people blamed Fox

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Speaker 2: for Bill O'Reilly being No one was blaming Fox. There

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Speaker 2: are other situations, other circumstances I think there, and you know,

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Speaker 2: Bill has spoken to what happened to him there. And

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Speaker 2: I'm not casting dispersions, passing judgment or I'm just saying

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Speaker 2: it wasn't oh my gosh, how could Fox under the circumstances?

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Speaker 1: That wasn't the outcry for the audience. That's all. That's

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Speaker 1: just the obvious reality there. Plus Bill had had twenty years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I was watching Bill tear apart commis

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Speaker 2: and it was super amusing when I was in high school,

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Speaker 2: right right, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean you think of it.

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Speaker 2: So Bill, by the time you know, he finally made

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Speaker 2: he had twenty years there and had a huge impact

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Speaker 2: on it. Tucker was I mean in this role, I know,

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Speaker 2: he's a five. He had been in his job for

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Speaker 2: a year years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So it feels.

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Speaker 2: Also the reasoning behind it, which we don't even know

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Speaker 2: yet is upsetting to the audience and also the sense

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Speaker 2: that he was in act one of a three act play.

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Speaker 4: Here, let me ask you this questions. We go to break,

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Speaker 4: we'll discuss it a bit more, and we come back.

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Speaker 4: We also have the idiots on the view reacting to

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Speaker 4: Tala love would be good for you. We missed them

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Speaker 4: when they were on vacation. You mentioned Elon. Is there

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Speaker 4: an Elon play to try to bring Tucker exclusively to Twitter?

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Speaker 4: If you're trying to make Twitter the one stop shop

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Speaker 4: for everything mentioned?

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Speaker 1: Rumble Stock was up? Is there an Elon play?

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Speaker 4: Plus the ladies on the view reacting as the imbeciles

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Speaker 4: of course that they are. We'll discuss all that and

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Speaker 4: more as we continue to roll on. Clay and Buck going.

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Speaker 1: To be getting into it with my friends. A lot

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Speaker 1: going on.

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Speaker 1: It's called the dry Fire Practice System. And that's what.

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Speaker 7: Slave Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in everybody, third hour of vclay n.

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Speaker 2: Bucks Show, as we come to you from Fort Myers, Florida,

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Speaker 2: down here together after our event last night. The big

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Speaker 2: news today is the official announcement as we spoke to

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Speaker 2: you about in the first hour of Joe Biden running

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Speaker 2: once again. Kamala Harris will be his oh so formidable

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Speaker 2: vice president once again. So on that ticket, you'll have

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Speaker 2: a Biden Harris duo.

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Speaker 1: And we're going to continue to look at.

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Speaker 2: This interestingly enough, this is this is this is funny

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Speaker 2: Biden back in nineteen seventy two, which, first of all,

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Speaker 2: the fact that Biden had campaign radio ads in nineteen

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Speaker 2: seventy two gives you a sense, I mean, start thinking

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Speaker 2: back to this one. I mean, Biden has been running

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Speaker 2: longer than I've been alive. And you know, Clay, what

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Speaker 2: was it like in your twenties when Biden ran this ad?

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Speaker 2: So here it is, here's Biden running this radio ad

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Speaker 2: saying that his opponent was too old.

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Speaker 1: Play three.

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Speaker 9: In Kale Bug's day, when Stalin ruled, Americans had visions

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Speaker 9: of Russian soldiers in our streets, and Joe Biden's day,

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Speaker 9: Americans have visions of American criminals in our streets. Joe Biden,

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Speaker 9: he understands what's happening.

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Speaker 1: Today, Joe Biden, Man of the Times.

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Speaker 2: That sounds nineteen seventy two, Clay, Can we just take

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Speaker 2: a moment here?

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Speaker 1: He was like the guy for the moment fifty years ago.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's maybe the best moment. They're probably not

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Speaker 4: his second best moment. Eric Swalwell's campaign, if you remember

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Speaker 4: when they had them on the debate stage, tried to

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Speaker 4: talk about the fact that Joe Biden was too old

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Speaker 4: and it was ready the America was for a new

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Speaker 4: generation of leadership, and he's right. But Joe Biden has

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Speaker 4: announced that video. I'm assuming a lot of you have

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Speaker 4: seen it. We played it in the first hour cuts

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Speaker 4: from the Joe Biden official announcement six am Eastern. This

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Speaker 4: thing went up on the four year anniversary of Joe

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Speaker 4: Biden entering the race in twenty twenty, which is some

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Speaker 4: sort of symmetry that Joe Biden evidently liked.

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Speaker 1: Buck.

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Speaker 4: What I thought was in interesting was Axios reported that

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Speaker 4: Joe Biden would probably not have run if he thought

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Speaker 4: Kamala Harris could beat Donald Trump. Oh, of course, do

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Speaker 4: you think that's true or do you think once you

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Speaker 4: become president, who's the only person to be like.

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Speaker 1: I have I have a proviso on this one or

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Speaker 1: a what they what they're reporting.

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Speaker 10: Is almost true, meaning if the machine around Joe Biden

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Speaker 10: believe that Kamala Harris could beat Donald Trump, they would

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Speaker 10: pressure Biden to step down, and.

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Speaker 1: People say, oh, how could they pressure him? He's a president.

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Speaker 2: Biden's whole mo for the last decade or so has

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Speaker 2: been enriching his family, his family name, his you know.

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Speaker 1: His brother y Saw and everybody else.

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Speaker 2: There are a million ways the Democrat apparatus can make

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Speaker 2: things sweet and pleasant and lucrative for the Bidens if

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Speaker 2: they were willing to play ball on Joe saying credibly, completely,

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Speaker 2: credibly right, he's not up for this. Kamala needs to

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Speaker 2: step in. This was the plan all along. The reason

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Speaker 2: that's not happening isn't because Joe Biden is such a

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Speaker 2: you know, a stalwart patriot who.

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Speaker 1: Wants to do it's best for the country.

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Speaker 2: It's that the machinery around And basically I'm saying it

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Speaker 2: wasn't Biden's decision. Really, the pressure would have been to

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Speaker 2: push him aside if they thought Kamala could win.

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Speaker 1: That.

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Speaker 2: That's my read on this, because they obviously want, you know,

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Speaker 2: or remember, identity politics. We criticize it a lot. For Democrats,

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Speaker 2: it's hugely mobilizing. They love identity politics. Their side thinks

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Speaker 2: that it's really important stuff. So if they could have

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Speaker 2: pushed Kamala for they would.

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Speaker 4: Here's something And look, I hate to think like this, Okay,

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Speaker 4: but when you have a candidate who is eighty that's

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Speaker 4: going to be eighty one and would be eighty two

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Speaker 4: next year in November when the election happens, and when

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Speaker 4: right now, Donald Trump is clearly the leading contender in

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Speaker 4: on the Republican side, and Trump will be seventy eight, I.

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Speaker 1: Believe, in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 4: So you're talking about a seventy eight year old guy

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Speaker 4: against an eighty two year old guy. Biden is in uh,

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Speaker 4: you know, barring some something. And this is what I'm

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Speaker 4: kind of raising the question how bad would Biden's health

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Speaker 4: have to get buck in order for Democrats to say

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Speaker 4: Joe Biden is not the guy. And I want to

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Speaker 4: ask you this in this context, John Fetterman couldn't speak,

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Speaker 4: John Fetterman gets.

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Speaker 2: Clear, like how bad. Let's let's be precise. Yeah, he

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Speaker 2: couldn't speak normally. I mean he cook it he I

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Speaker 2: mean because no, because we're getting to the level now

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Speaker 2: if Joe Biden was incapable of speech, which can happen

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Speaker 2: like say after a major stroke, correct had a major stroke,

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Speaker 2: but he's still you know.

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Speaker 1: What I mean, it's how bad? Would I guess?

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Speaker 4: My question is, so Fetterman right now is the Democrats

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Speaker 4: have set a standard that you can be I'm trying

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Speaker 4: to how to even phrase it, basically almost incapable of communication.

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Speaker 4: You can a major brain dysfunction. Yes, what I would say,

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Speaker 4: they were potential, and then Fetterman gets elected and he

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Speaker 4: comes in and what happens. He immediately goes into the

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Speaker 4: hospital for months. He can't do the job. Democrats have

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Speaker 4: set such a low bar for what is required of

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Speaker 4: a candidate's health. Now, to be fair, you could at

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Speaker 4: least argue Fetterman, I think is fifty three years old,

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Speaker 4: so Democrats could at least argue with Fetterman, Hey, he's

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Speaker 4: gonna get better. I don't know that that's true, and

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Speaker 4: certainly the evidence has not reflected that he looks much better.

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Speaker 1: Biden's gonna be eighty two.

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Speaker 4: How bad health wise does Biden's performance have to get

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Speaker 4: buck in your mind for Democrats to say we're calling

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Speaker 4: in the relief pitcher, because eighteen months from now he

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Speaker 4: could be infinitely worse.

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Speaker 1: As we move into twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna have to avoid a couple of things. I

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Speaker 2: think for Biden to continue in this role. So this

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Speaker 2: is why I said about the not speaking thing. You

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Speaker 2: would even have to say, like Letterman can't speak.

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Speaker 4: Well, you're actually saying something could happen to Biden where

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Speaker 4: he could not speak, and Democrats might try to hide

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Speaker 4: it effectively mute.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's right.

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Speaker 2: That's so, that's the Biden because already now he has

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Speaker 2: these moments where're ver, you know, he kind of just

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Speaker 2: turns into garbled nonsense. If Biden reached a point where

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Speaker 2: he was truly incapable of speech, I think they would

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Speaker 2: have to pull in the relief pitcher.

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Speaker 1: I and I think that if.

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Speaker 2: If he had a moment now, they're gonna absolutely they're

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Speaker 2: going to replay as much as they can get away

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Speaker 2: with the twenty twenty Biden from the basement thing. Clearly

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Speaker 2: it's going to be completely stage managed. I don't believe

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Speaker 2: he will debate, assuming it is Donald Trump who's the nominee,

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Speaker 2: which I think is looking likely. I don't think he

746
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Speaker 2: will debate Donald Trump. I think he'll say our democracy

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Speaker 2: is too precious for me to plat.

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Speaker 1: He might even use the term platform, this threat to.

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Speaker 4: Our pot the sexism, the racism that would be brought

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Speaker 4: to bear by Trump.

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Speaker 2: And I think that they have a built in excuse

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Speaker 2: for that one. So the only other thing would be

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Speaker 2: if he had a true you know, you've seen you know,

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Speaker 2: it's it's very sad to watch, but sometimes people will

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Speaker 2: have a real moment. You know, there's been video you'll

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Speaker 2: see of somebody who's either having a stroke or a

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Speaker 2: heart attack on TV, like doing live news or something.

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Speaker 2: If he has a moment like that, I do think

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Speaker 2: it becomes too hard for them to continue to pretend

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Speaker 2: that he could physically do this.

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Speaker 1: But I really set the bar at that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they if it's Biden in a wheelchair looking

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Speaker 2: feeble and barely and like muttering but you know, being

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Speaker 2: able to speak, it's Biden until twenty twenty four. They'll

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Speaker 2: push him through the other thing. I would say, let's

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Speaker 2: pretend that Biden is Fetterman.

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Speaker 4: Like at some point in the campaign. For all of

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Speaker 4: you out there who watched the Fetterman campaign, they dragged

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Speaker 4: Fetterman across the finish line in a state. It's worth

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Speaker 4: mentioning that is one of the five or six states

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Speaker 4: that will decide who the president is again and again.

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Speaker 4: I still look at that Feederman campaign and I come

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Speaker 4: back to it and I say, it is probably the

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Speaker 4: most scared I've ever been, because if they will put

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Speaker 4: that man in office, That's what I said. With Biden,

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Speaker 4: I think they that that. I think the bar would

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Speaker 4: be even lower for Democrats when it comes to Joe

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Speaker 4: Biden's health than it was for health.

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Speaker 1: Here's it, he could be worse. Here's a scary idea.

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Speaker 2: I think that they will try to sell people at

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Speaker 2: some level. I don't know how explicit they can be

782
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Speaker 2: in this, but they'll try to sell them on it

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Speaker 2: doesn't really matter, guys.

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Speaker 1: Biden is a brand more than he's a person, and.

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Speaker 2: The Biden brand as a presidency here means stability and normalcy.

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Speaker 1: And this is how they will sell it.

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Speaker 2: And right now, I will say the polling does indicate

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Speaker 2: a very Look, we're not talking about if somebody ahead,

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Speaker 2: you know, fifty one forty nine. I mean, this is

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Speaker 2: overwhelmingly shown in the polling that independence not people listening

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Speaker 2: to you know, there are independents listening to the show,

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Speaker 2: but not people who are generally conservative, not people who

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Speaker 2: are generally Democrats. Independence the primary I'm sure you've seen this.

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Speaker 2: The primary feeling they have with the notion of twenty

795
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Speaker 2: twenty four is exhaustion. Yeah, exhaustion the independent voters that

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Speaker 2: we need to win in the twenty twenty four election,

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Speaker 2: not just the presidency or the Senate, you know, to

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Speaker 2: keep control of the House. They are exhausted by the

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Speaker 2: notion of a Trump Biden Showdown Part two. And with

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Speaker 2: that in mind, I do think that Biden as a

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Speaker 2: brand instead of I mean, it is amazing. You saw

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Speaker 2: We might have talked about the show before. The Distinguished

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Speaker 2: Gentleman with Eddie Murphy. Yeah, we are at that phase

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Speaker 2: of this. For those who haven't seen the movie, it's

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Speaker 2: not one of Eddie Murphy's best It's watchable, it's okay,

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Speaker 2: but it's not like a top five Eddie Murphy film.

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Speaker 2: He runs as Jeff Johnson, Yes, who was a congressman

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Speaker 2: who died.

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Speaker 1: In you know whatever.

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Speaker 2: I forget what part of the country he was even

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Speaker 2: was it Florida that actually was running and I forget,

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Speaker 2: but anyway, Jeff.

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Speaker 1: Johnson and Eddie Murphy.

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Speaker 2: His name was was I think Jeffrey Johnson, And he said, well,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna run as Jeff Johnson, and the whole campaign

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Speaker 2: was Jeff Johnson the name, you know, and he wins,

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Speaker 2: and it's supposed to be the set up. Now the

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Speaker 2: rest of the movie unfortunately kind of stinks. But that

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Speaker 2: concept was kind of funny. I mean, remember they did

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Speaker 2: elect it for like state senate. I think it was

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Speaker 2: a dead man in Pennsylvania. So when I say to you,

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Speaker 2: the Biden brand is what will be running this time around,

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Speaker 2: that is really true. As long as they have someone

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Speaker 2: who is a beating heart and a pretty functional brain

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Speaker 2: to be Joe Biden as president, they think that they

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Speaker 2: can get this done.

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Speaker 1: They think they can Fetterman style just pull it across.

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Speaker 2: So I don't see any changes unless you have the tremendous,

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Speaker 2: you know, outlier situation of something that we've just talked

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Speaker 2: about here, which you mean that they can I mean,

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Speaker 2: they can't pretend like they can't remember the movie Dave.

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Speaker 1: Now we're really going back in the ninety cinema.

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Speaker 2: They can't get away with a Dave situation that pretend

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Speaker 2: Biden's fine when he's clearly not.

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Speaker 4: Although some of you out there would say I think

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Speaker 4: they could probably figure that out too. I mean that

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Speaker 4: that is what they've made their They've made their choice,

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Speaker 4: and it felt like they held him in a really unfortunately, Buck,

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Speaker 4: I think the biggest legacy of twenty twenty two is

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Speaker 4: not Democrats being able to hold on a small minority

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Speaker 4: in the Senate or Republicans having a small majority in

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Speaker 4: the House. I think it's that twenty twenty two was

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Speaker 4: not such a wipeout that Joe Biden.

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Speaker 1: Was the biggest winner of the midterms, and that's why

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Speaker 1: he's running.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna make a deep, deep into the

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Speaker 2: top of the upper deck, swing here and make a

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Speaker 4: I think save it, save it, Oh, save it for

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Speaker 4: the next segment. That's why I don't have any idea

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Speaker 2: guess it's on a phone. It's email, but you get

882
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Speaker 2: the idea email inbox for all of us. The team

883
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Speaker 2: reads it right away, they send them to us, and

884
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Speaker 2: you know, you never know what kind of impact you're

885
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Speaker 2: gonna have. Phyllis said, shave that beard, Buck, And I said,

886
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Speaker 2: honey to my wife, not to Phyllis.

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Speaker 1: But Phyllis is great too. I said, honey, should I

888
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Speaker 1: shave the beard? And I did you look way younger.

889
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Speaker 1: I can't get over how quickly you've.

890
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Speaker 4: Just swept away so many ages, you millennials in your

891
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Speaker 4: you know, taking your beards off.

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Speaker 1: Just just walking walking.

893
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Speaker 2: I can't even I don't even know what the cool

894
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,439
Speaker 2: kids are doing these days, so I can't even say

895
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Speaker 2: that I'm doing it.

896
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Speaker 1: But you know, there's that I we mentioned this.

897
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Speaker 2: Vivek Ramis Swami was on with Don Lemon on CNN

898
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Speaker 2: and the story is, and remember anytime you're hearing the

899
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Speaker 2: media explanation for why somebody was let go or.

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Speaker 1: Why you know, it's like everything else. It's like reading

901
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Speaker 1: one of these Bob Woodward books.

902
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 2: We're like, wait, who was part of reconstructing this conversation

903
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 2: in the oval, perhaps people who were there who want

904
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Speaker 2: history to reflect on them a certain way.

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Speaker 4: And you know, the people who tend to look the

906
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Speaker 4: best are probably the sources.

907
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Speaker 1: Pretty good sources. It's usually you can figure out.

908
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 2: So there's always efforts to try to create narrative through

909
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 2: the supposed facts and stories like this.

910
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Speaker 1: Anyway, here is how it went there.

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Speaker 2: Just a reminder when Vivek and Don Lemon threw down

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Speaker 2: play it.

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Speaker 11: You're making people think that the Civil Wars fought for

914
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Speaker 11: black people only for black people to get guns, and

915
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Speaker 11: for black people to the.

916
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Speaker 12: Civil Wars for black people in this country to get

917
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Speaker 12: freedoms a noble mission. And I think that even after

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Speaker 12: we succeeded, we had to actually secure those freedoms.

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Speaker 1: To reduce it. In a speech at the nrare you're.

920
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Speaker 11: Trying to say that black people to get guns, that

921
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Speaker 11: was the reason that you're there at the NRA, that

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Speaker 11: was the reason for the Civil War. It is best reductive,

923
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Speaker 11: it's insulting.

924
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Speaker 1: There are a whole reasons that.

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Speaker 12: With due respect, I find I find your explanation reductive

926
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Speaker 12: and actually insulting, including the Black Americans to say that

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Speaker 12: black people today, compared to our theysics to four eighteen

928
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Speaker 12: sixty five, haven't made progress in part because of the

929
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Speaker 12: freedoms we secured.

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Speaker 4: So and then that went into buck what I thought

931
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Speaker 4: was probably the most insulting part of that entire conversation,

932
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Speaker 4: which was Don Lemon saying basically, I don't even know

933
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Speaker 4: who you are, meaning what ethnicity.

934
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Speaker 1: I believe the quote was whatever race you are is

935
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Speaker 1: what he said.

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Speaker 4: That's the part I think that likely was the most

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Speaker 4: grading for Don Lemon's bosses coming on the heels as

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Speaker 4: we played yesterday of Don Lemon saying google it when

939
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Speaker 4: he was talking about when a woman was in her prime,

940
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Speaker 4: and evidently a lot of women were refusing to do

941
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Speaker 4: his show, which has been out there, even Karine John Pierre,

942
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Speaker 4: who none of us are particularly fans of because she's

943
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Speaker 4: maybe the worst White House Press secretary who has ever existed.

944
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Speaker 1: She revidently was refusing KJP through Don Lemony.

945
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Speaker 4: The horse are that KJP after that incident, because I

946
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Speaker 4: think KJP is also in her forties and therefore she

947
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Speaker 4: might have been concerned she Don Lemon thought she was

948
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Speaker 4: past her prime as well.

949
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Speaker 1: I just.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know to be fair that KJP

951
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Speaker 4: or Don Lemon ever had much of a prime in

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Speaker 4: their media careers. There's lots of people at CNN who

953
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Speaker 4: did not have great primes either. But this vivic Ramaswami,

954
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Speaker 4: by the way, has gotten up. I know we've been

955
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Speaker 4: talking about Joe Biden announcing for his reelection. I've seen

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Speaker 4: Ramaswami up to like three percent four percent in some

957
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Speaker 4: of these polls that have that have been circulating. But

958
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Speaker 4: given that Joe Biden announced today six am, video goes out.

959
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Speaker 4: We talked about it in the first hour, and this

960
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Speaker 4: is a conversation We're going to have a lot in

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Speaker 4: the days and weeks and months ahead.

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Speaker 1: How likely do you think it is. I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: my answer.

964
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Speaker 4: I'm curious what you would say that effectively we're going

965
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Speaker 4: to have a rematch. Biden Trump twenty twenty four is

966
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Speaker 4: a do over of Biden Trump twenty twenty I would

967
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Speaker 4: right now, as we are sitting here talking to you,

968
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Speaker 4: if you gave me the opportunity to take away health

969
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Speaker 4: conditions to be fair in both directions. Right because Trump

970
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 4: is going to be seventy eight Biden will be eighty two,

971
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Speaker 4: bad things can happen.

972
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Speaker 1: To people who get to those ages, if you gave.

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Speaker 4: Me away health conditions, I would say it's like seventy

974
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Speaker 4: five or eighty percent. In my opinion, that's going to

975
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Speaker 4: be the matchup for twenty twenty four, even though we're

976
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Speaker 4: looking eighteen months out.

977
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Speaker 1: Would you say more or less likely if we take

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Speaker 1: health off the table?

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Speaker 2: I had said before on the show, and I know

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Speaker 2: it's said in the Patrick mc david show. I thought

981
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Speaker 2: it was two to one that Trump was the discussion

982
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Speaker 2: about I had to have.

983
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Speaker 1: It was really nice.

984
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Speaker 2: Clay had to pull me aside. He's like, he's like,

985
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Speaker 2: do you cause I don't bet, I don't gamble, I

986
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 2: don't know anything about this stuff. So I just learned

987
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 2: this from hearing people say it. I thought that meant

988
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 2: two to one likely for Trump. Clay it was very

989
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 2: nice about it. He's like, no, no, no, you're saying that

990
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 2: it's two to one again. So what I was trying

991
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 2: to say is, I think you know I would if

992
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Speaker 2: somebody was willing to put up one hundred dollars against

993
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Speaker 2: my fifty dollars, right, isn't that how this would go?

994
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 6: That?

995
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Speaker 4: I think you actually believe one to two, not two

996
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,760
Speaker 4: to one. I'm really one two to one is the underdog. Yes,

997
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 4: one to two is the favorite. And so I think that,

998
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Speaker 4: by the way, there's a lot of people out there

999
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Speaker 4: who don't gamble that also sometimes get crossed over in

1000
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 4: the language. But you think you're basically in roughly my

1001
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 4: kind of ca category where you're like, I think I.

1002
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Speaker 2: Think it's likely but not definitive that Trump will be

1003
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Speaker 2: the nominee. Yes, yes, likely but not but not likely

1004
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 2: but not you know, nowhere near, Like I wouldn't bet

1005
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Speaker 2: the house on it.

1006
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 4: No, you took out health because I think the only

1007
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Speaker 4: way Biden is not the nominee is if and we

1008
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 4: talked about this a little bit, it would have to

1009
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 4: be a fairly significant public health collapse.

1010
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Speaker 2: Here's another part of this that you know, we haven't

1011
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 2: really gotten into today, and we certainly will be talking

1012
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:30,720
Speaker 2: to this a lot. But you know, there's numerous criminal

1013
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 2: cases that they're bringing against Donald Trump.

1014
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: The there's the e.

1015
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 2: Gene Carroll civil suit against Trump for sexual assault. Like

1016
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Speaker 2: I think it's like forty years ago or something, right,

1017
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 2: I mean, it was really long, like in the eighties.

1018
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: I think it was an eighties ago.

1019
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 2: It was a long time ago, and there's this this

1020
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 2: opening in New York law that you can sue civilly

1021
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 2: for sexual abuse beyond So the statute of limitations for

1022
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 2: one year in New York or civil cases was completely

1023
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 2: wiped away. And the in Egene Carroll is bringing this

1024
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 2: shuitt against Trump. I just bring this up because he's

1025
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 2: gonna get a New York jury. This is a civil case,

1026
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 2: so it's preponderance not beyond a reasonable doubt. And you

1027
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 2: know they're they're bringing that case against him with basically

1028
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 2: a rigged jury, as we all know against Trump.

1029
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: That's civil, not criminal.

1030
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 2: But still, I mean, you know, he could be in

1031
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 2: a position where he's gonna.

1032
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: Lose a Now people can say, oh, we know that.

1033
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: That's by the way.

1034
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 2: I do think that that one is just completely just

1035
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 2: like I think the uh, you know, payoff Stormy Daniel's thing.

1036
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 2: I mean, this is crazy. They're just trying to tear

1037
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 2: him down with whatever. But but it's about winning on

1038
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 2: the margins with those independents who we know we've seen

1039
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 2: are saying they're exhausted by this whole thing.

1040
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 1: And do they just say, oh, there's.

1041
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 2: All these losses that we got to come to the

1042
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 2: independence when Trump is the nominee, and say, hey, guys,

1043
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 2: do you want that great economy back? Do you want

1044
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 2: a country that actually, you know, feels proud and is

1045
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 2: moving the right direction? And convince them that all this

1046
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 2: propaganda they're going to hear about, oh, it's going to

1047
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 2: be undermined institutions and you know, dogs and cats living

1048
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 2: together mass hysteria is not going to be their reality.

1049
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 2: All of these lawsuits together just goes to the noise

1050
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 2: factor that they're trying to create against Trump.

1051
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:21,879
Speaker 1: Buck.

1052
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 4: I'll even give you a scarier question here to think about.

1053
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 4: What if you got to run away jury in that

1054
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 4: civil case and somebody on that jury was able to

1055
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,359
Speaker 4: drive that jury and they said, we want to try

1056
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,280
Speaker 4: to bankrupt Donald Trump in this case. Now on appeal,

1057
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 4: that would be changed. But what if somebody said, hey,

1058
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 4: we think that there was a sexual assault back in

1059
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 4: you know, decades ago, and the damages should.

1060
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 1: Be a billion dollars, right.

1061
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 4: I mean they tried to do this with Alex Jones,

1062
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,720
Speaker 4: and I know we talked about this some the Austin,

1063
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 4: Texas court case surrounding Alex Jones and the Sandy Hook

1064
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 4: shooting and everything else. I mean the goal there was

1065
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 4: too ankorrupt Alex Jones because of what he had said, right,

1066
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 4: the jury basically made that choice. Do you feel like,

1067
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 4: even if it's only a civil suit that in New

1068
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 4: York City, Donald Trump is.

1069
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 2: Getting a jury of his peers, of course, But I

1070
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 2: mean it's actually set to start. I believe it's set

1071
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 2: to start today. Correct, that's the report, right, The report

1072
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 2: is it's starting today. I haven't seen yeah, anyway, So,

1073
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 2: and it was in the nineteen nineties. So this is

1074
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 2: yet another This is yet another time that they are

1075
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 2: going to go after Trump.

1076
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: And use the.

1077
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 2: Use the machinery that they have to him and trying

1078
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,800
Speaker 2: to layer one thing after another.

1079
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: It's Gulliver on the little Putians.

1080
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,280
Speaker 2: They're just going to tie him down with a thousand

1081
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 2: little threads and try to make sure that he's not,

1082
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 2: you know, not able to And I'll say this, even

1083
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 2: if he is the nominee. One of the lessons of

1084
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 2: the Russia collusion thing was they do't have to win.

1085
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 2: They just have to annoy you. Right, they don't have

1086
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 2: to win, They just have to grind you down. And

1087
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 2: they're going to try to do that. Think about this

1088
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 2: all this stuff. Trump's gonna have to have meetings, he's

1089
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 2: gonna have to have calls with lawyers, he's gonna have

1090
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 2: to think about you know, it's not possible for this

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Speaker 2: not to be factoring into the workload psychologically that he's

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Speaker 2: gonna have as well as time wise. So, folks, they're

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Speaker 2: rigging the system right now is the point. The system

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Speaker 2: is being rigged against him as we speak. And they're

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Speaker 2: using this time instead of whether it's social media or

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Speaker 2: you know how, they're doing ballot harvesting in different places

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Speaker 2: and using COVID as the excuse, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: They're doing lawfair.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they're using lawfair against Donald Trump to rig

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four election. And it's already happening.

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Speaker 4: And as you said, the people that are most disgusted

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Speaker 4: by this are many independent voters because they just throw

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Speaker 4: up their hands and they're just like the constant Trump

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Speaker 4: show weighs on their shoulders and makes them less likely

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Speaker 4: to support Trump in an election. Democrats look at the polling.

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Speaker 4: They know what the data reflects. The more they can

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Speaker 4: layer all of this circus on Donald Trump's shoulders, the

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Speaker 4: more they weaken him by the time they get to

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Speaker 4: the primary and as we talked about in the first

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Speaker 4: hour of the program book, it can simultaneously be the

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Speaker 4: case that the best thing for Trump to win the

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Speaker 4: Republican nomination is all of this shenanigans that being.

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Speaker 1: Put on him by the Democrats.

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Speaker 4: But the Democrats are doing this smartly because they want

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Speaker 4: Trump in the ring against Biden. They want this rematch,

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Speaker 4: and so it can benefit Trump in the context of

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Speaker 4: the Republican race and crush him in the general national

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Speaker 4: presidential race.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, I think that's exactly what's going

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Speaker 1: on now.

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Speaker 4: To be fair, they thought they were doing that in

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Speaker 4: twenty sixteen and they lost, but they're trying to do

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Speaker 4: a rematch at twenty twenty, except with a much more

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Speaker 4: weekend Trump.

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Speaker 1: It's going to say they understood.

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Speaker 2: They made changes between twenty sixteen and twenty two that

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Speaker 2: showed they learned from how Trump was able to beat

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Speaker 2: Hillary in twenty sixteen, and they tried to neutralize some

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Speaker 2: of those advantages.

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Speaker 1: Hiding Biden in the basement.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they used COVID his excuse, but keeping Biden away

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Speaker 2: from the public and having only the most stage managed

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Speaker 2: situations for him was effective for Biden.

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Speaker 1: That was actually smart strategy.

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Speaker 2: It feels gross, it feels dishonest, but it was effective

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Speaker 2: for him. Not covering the Trump rallies on any of

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Speaker 2: the non Fox networks, they weren't running any Trump rallies.

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Speaker 2: And now there weren't rallies in the traditional sense. But

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Speaker 2: you know, even when they were doing virtually they did

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Speaker 2: some and when they did virtual rallies and tried to

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00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 2: do or you know, virtual events and had Trump doing speaking,

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Speaker 2: they weren't covering him the way they did in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 2: He didn't get the free media boost, that's right, So

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Speaker 2: you can you could assume all of that's going to

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00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 2: happen this time. Now they're adding to all of that,

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Speaker 2: all of the lawsuits and I kind of say, I mean,

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Speaker 2: they're they're going to bring this charge in Georgia and

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00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 2: the charges are not they're not rinky dink like the

1149
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Speaker 2: Alvin Bragg you know, nonsense, right, the payoffs and he

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Speaker 2: didn't list it. I mean, we can't even remember. It's

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Speaker 2: so stupid, it makes no sense to anybody. It's basically

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Speaker 2: it's like an accounting error that nobody even cares about.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna bring charges and by the way, I think

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Speaker 2: it's nonsense. But what I think doesn't matter because I'm

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Speaker 2: not the prosecutor in Georgia who has this power, and

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Speaker 2: I'm not the jury that he's going to face in Georgia.

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Speaker 1: Who has this power.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna bring charges Clay that go along the lines

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Speaker 2: of conspiracy to commit election fraud and racketeering.

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Speaker 1: And we still may get Department of Justice charges too. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So when you're talking racketeering, folks, you're talking about the

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Speaker 2: possibility of prison time. Now now you're talking which is

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Speaker 2: a whole other thing. So we'll come back, But this

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Speaker 2: is what we got to be ready for. We got

1165
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Speaker 2: to understand how crazy the other side is. While the Biden

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Speaker 2: administration considers declaring a public health emergency on abortion to

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Speaker 2: and each mother, making sure they have enough support and

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Speaker 2: information to make the right decision. That's why we've continued

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Speaker 2: to partner with the Preborn Network of Clinics nationwide.

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Speaker 2: learn all about the support and resources that they can

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