1 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:06,159 Speaker 1: Hello Sunshine, Hey besties. 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 2: Today, on the bright Side, we're popping off on the 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,239 Speaker 2: biggest pop culture moments of the week with New York 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:16,319 Speaker 2: Times bestselling author, comedian and podcast host Danny Pellegrino. What's 5 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 2: behind Bravos Vander Pump reboot, how did Billboard select their 6 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 2: biggest pop star of the twenty first century? And who 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 2: Spotify rap list is most embarrassing. It's Friday, December sixth. 8 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 3: I'm Simone Boyce, I'm Danielle Robe and this is the 9 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 3: bright Side from Hello Sunshine, a daily show where we 10 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 3: come together to share women's stories, to laugh, learn and 11 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:42,919 Speaker 3: brighten your day. Happy Friday, Happy Happy Friday. 12 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,919 Speaker 2: Yes, we made it to the weekend, Danielle. Okay, So 13 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 2: our besties don't know about this yet, but you were 14 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 2: in New York this week for something pretty special. 15 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 4: Can you tell us about it? 16 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 3: Yes, I was in New York for one day to 17 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 3: hang out in Gloria Steinem's living room. So her living 18 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 3: room is one of the most iconic places, at least 19 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 3: in my mind. In the early seventies, it served as 20 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 3: the birthplace of Miss magazine, which was completely groundbreaking because 21 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 3: it was really the only magazine or publication out there 22 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,839 Speaker 3: that was told through the female lens, and she would 23 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 3: have people in her living room to foster dialogue, and 24 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 3: it eventually turned into something called talking circles, which were 25 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 3: really inspired by indigenous practices. Gloria spent a lot of 26 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 3: time in India in her early years, and both in 27 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 3: India and with Native American communities, there's this idea of 28 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 3: talking circles, and she sort of shared that with everybody 29 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 3: that would come through, and she has them to this day. 30 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 3: And it's actually in her real living room, Like if 31 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 3: you go to the right, it's her kitchen, and if 32 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 3: you go to the right, it's her bedroom. So it 33 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 3: was on my dream list of things to do in 34 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 3: my life. I felt so honored to be there, and 35 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 3: I also feel like so much of what we talk 36 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 3: about on this podcast is really a product of what 37 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 3: was talked about in her living room throughout the decades. 38 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 4: So it just felt sort of surreal. 39 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 2: Well, I know that she's a personal hero of yours, 40 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 2: so I can only imagine how excited you were for 41 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 2: this opportunity. What did you guys talk about in the 42 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: talking circle? Can you share or is it private? 43 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: No, it's not private at all. 44 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 3: We just were talking about all the things you would 45 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 3: kind of expect, like there were an amalgamation. I think 46 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 3: it was like nine people, all different activists, leaders of 47 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 3: their industries, and talking about what was going on in 48 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 3: their world, what they needed help with, how people could 49 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 3: support one another. And then we actually there was like 50 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 3: a moment of like sort of quiet, and so I 51 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 3: went up to her and I had my copies of 52 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 3: MS magazine. 53 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: I've held on to them for years. 54 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 3: I have the test cover and then the first cover 55 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 3: that existed, and I showed them to her, and she 56 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 3: was like, I think, happy to see them. When we 57 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 3: were chatting about it, she was explaining why she chose 58 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 3: certain things on her cover, and then I asked her 59 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 3: about her love life, which was so fun. 60 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 2: How does this not surprise me at all? Why does 61 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 2: this not surprise me that you would be nosy with 62 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 2: Glorias dynem Well. 63 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 3: I revere her so deeply, and I wanted to know 64 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 3: about the people like who captured Glorious Dynam's heart? Can 65 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 3: you imagine how special those people must be? 66 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 4: You would hope they were special, she. 67 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: Said they were. She said they were, Yeah. 68 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 2: You would hope that they recognized like the privilege that 69 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 2: it is to be in a relationship with that woman, 70 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 2: you know, Oh. 71 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,119 Speaker 3: My god, I mean, she's so value driven. I think 72 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 3: a lot of the people she was with, at least 73 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 3: the ones I know about, like that were public relationships, 74 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 3: they were all so values driven. Like she dated Jim Brown, 75 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 3: who was like a sports figure but also incredibly active 76 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 3: in the civil rights movement, and they met like doing 77 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 3: work in the civil rights movement together, and so yeah, 78 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 3: I just I'm still sort of riding a high. I 79 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 3: feel silly saying this, but it was one of those 80 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 3: days that I felt lucky to be alive. 81 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally, and one of those days that I feel like, 82 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 2: you know, for you specifically, you probably feel like your 83 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 2: whole life has been like leading up to a moment 84 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 2: like that. You know. 85 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 4: But wait, did you ask her for dating advice? 86 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 3: No, Because once I asked her, that's so funny. Once 87 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 3: I asked her about the loves of her life and 88 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 3: she started answering, everybody started gathering again because they wanted 89 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 3: to hear her answer. So I got like, shy, I 90 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 3: just love I wanted it to be about her. But 91 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 3: if I ever get the chance to meet her again, 92 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 3: maybe I'll I'll. 93 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 4: Try and ask. 94 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 2: Now, you guys will have a shorthand to love, like 95 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 2: a romance shorthand, so you'll be good yes. 96 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: And you know, she's no for her iconic belts. 97 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 3: Like she said, she doesn't like to change her clothes 98 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 3: because she doesn't want to think about it. 99 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 4: She just wants to change her belt. 100 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 3: And she was wearing a great, big, like silver belt 101 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 3: and she was telling us about why she does it, 102 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 3: and I was like, you know, I wonder if Mark 103 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 3: Zuckerberg took that from you. I feel like all these 104 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 3: tech founders took Gloria Steinem's fashion ideology. 105 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 2: I mean, Mark Zuckerberg's fashion evolution is a story for 106 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 2: another day. We don't have time for that today. But 107 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 2: I'm so happy that you had such a wonderful, memorable experience. 108 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 4: I can tell how much this let you up. So 109 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 4: thank you for sharing that. 110 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 2: And you know, after hearing about your trip and just 111 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 2: reflecting on some of the conversations that we've had here 112 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 2: on the show lately, we. 113 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 4: Have decided to bring a little elevation to our show today. 114 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 2: So we had on a guest recently who really redefined 115 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 2: that word for me. And I'm thinking of kindness. Researcher 116 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 2: Jeanette Murray. When we talked to her on Wednesday Days Show, 117 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 2: she imbued elevation with this new meaning. She described it 118 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 2: as an emotion of feeling you get when you see 119 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 2: the goodness of humanity unfold in front of your eyes. 120 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 2: So I'm going to try to use this word in 121 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 2: the right context. I don't know if I'm using it correctly, 122 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 2: but for me, elevation is how I describe the feeling 123 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 2: of everyone sharing in the joy of wicked together. Yeah, 124 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 2: that collective excitement. So that's the definition I'm clinging to. 125 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 2: But I love learning a new word, or learning how 126 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 2: to use a word in a new way. 127 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 4: Simone, we have to go to the thing along. 128 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 3: But I totally agree with you and elevate even saying 129 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 3: it sort of makes me feel like I grew three inches, 130 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 3: you know. 131 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 4: There's something so beautiful about it. 132 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 3: I'm also still laughing at our conversation with Fortune Fimster. 133 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: She is so hilarious. 134 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 3: I cannot wait to see her in the new movie 135 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 3: that she's in with Reese Witherspoon and Will Ferrell next year. 136 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 3: And the story she told us about her and her 137 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 3: wife Jacks honeymooning in a location. If you haven't seen 138 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 3: that or heard the episode, I'll I don't want to 139 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 3: ruin it. But there is a location where it is 140 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 3: illegal to be gay, and Fortune and her wife Jack's 141 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 3: honeymoon there by accident. 142 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 2: Oh man, leave it to Fortune to turn that horrible 143 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 2: experience into a bit and make us all laugh from it. 144 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 4: Okay. 145 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 2: So if you are listening and you feel the holiday 146 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 2: anxiety bubbling up from your core, just know you are 147 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 2: not alone, because I am experiencing that too. It's like, 148 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 2: I know it's coming, and I want to try and 149 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 2: get ahead of it. And one of the ways that 150 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 2: I was able to do that was by talking to 151 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: our friend Lizzie Mathis on the show. She had some 152 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 2: serious gems and really practical tips for hosting holiday gatherings 153 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 2: and just making it a lot more seamless and easier. 154 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 2: And I loved how she said that the key to 155 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 2: a memorable gathering is just making simple things look fancy 156 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 2: like she reassured us that you can create an impactful 157 00:07:58,520 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: environment on a budget. 158 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 3: I loved her tip about decorating with candles because it 159 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 3: looks so elevated. 160 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 4: To use our word of the. 161 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: Week and you can do it inexpensively. 162 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 3: You know who else was truly memorable for me? Bosama 163 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 3: Saint John Bosama made her debut on The Real Housewives 164 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 3: of Beverly Hills after years as one of the world's 165 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 3: top marketing execs uber Netflix Endeavor. The list goes on, 166 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 3: and as a fan of the show, I love how 167 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 3: she gave us the real tea on the new season. 168 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 3: She was not afraid to speak her mind, and I 169 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 3: do think a lot of the cast members can sort 170 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 3: of like tiptoe around things. 171 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: I love that she's giving the people what they want. 172 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 4: Yes, well, I'm. 173 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 3: Super excited because our guest today is a Bravo girly Okay, 174 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 3: he is a Bravo encyclopedia. 175 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 2: I'm so ready for my lesson in the history of 176 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 2: the Housewives franchise. Danny Pellegrino is going to bring it today. 177 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 4: He is a. 178 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 2: Housewives scholar, the host of the podcast Everything Iconic. 179 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 4: We've got so much to talk to him about. 180 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 2: But before we get there, it's time to spotlight favorite 181 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 2: moment of the week. 182 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 4: Y'all. 183 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, This week's spotlight goes to Carrie Washington, who was 184 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 3: officially inducted into the Hollywood Walk of Fame. On Monday, 185 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 3: Carrie was given the two thousand, nine hundred seventy sixth 186 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 3: star for her incredible career in film and TV, and 187 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 3: she celebrated with her family and longtime collaborators Tyler Perry 188 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 3: and Shonda Rhimes, both of whom gave really beautiful speeches 189 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 3: in her honor. And what was really heartwarming about this 190 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 3: is I guess it was one of her dad's dreams. 191 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 3: It was a bucket list moment for him. She told 192 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 3: People Magazine. I think it was something my dad had 193 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 3: always dreamed of and asked me about. It was really 194 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 3: special to be able to be here today, to share 195 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 3: this moment with my parents, and to have them be 196 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 3: here with me. You know, there's this thing about the 197 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 3: Hollywood Walk of Fame that feels like, almost like silly 198 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 3: at this point, because it's like, Okay, Hollywood, Hollywood. But 199 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 3: I think we forget how hard people work to build 200 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 3: up to those moments. And so when I saw her 201 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 3: share that with her family and particularly her dad, my 202 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 3: heart smiled a little bit. 203 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 2: Yes, shouts to Carrie Washington, and not just because of 204 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 2: the work she's done in front of the camera, but 205 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 2: behind the camera too, especially teaming up with a Reese Witherspoon. 206 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 4: So congrats to her. That's so exciting. All right, Danielle, 207 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 4: are you ready to pop off? 208 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 2: Oh? We're ready joining us to pop off today, y'all. 209 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 2: Is New York Times bestselling author, comedian and host of 210 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 2: the podcast Everything Iconic. It's Danny Pellegrino. Danny, Welcome to 211 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 2: the bright Side. 212 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 1: Who welcome? 213 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 5: Hi, Simone and Danielle. I'm so happy to be here, 214 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 5: Danielle and I feel like we're kind of parasocially besties, 215 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 5: even though you might not know it yet, and now 216 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 5: you are too by proxy. 217 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 2: Yes, well, I want to hear. How do you guys 218 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 2: know each other? What's the story there? 219 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 5: I think, like every good old fashioned relationship is social media, 220 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 5: you know, like every I think that's we just we're 221 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 5: friendly on social media. 222 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 3: So actually I think it's a little deeper, Danny, because 223 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 3: I don't know if you know this, but we have 224 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 3: a mutual friend named Jaten, and years ago when you 225 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 3: started posting on Instagram, Jaten has an amazing eye for talent, 226 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 3: and Jaten sent me Danny's page and said, this guy 227 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 3: is going to blow up. He's amazing and two months later, Boom, 228 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 3: Danny was huge. 229 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 5: Atten's the best. And I grew up with him. I 230 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 5: mean we were We went to school together as kids 231 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 5: and stuff. He's the best. 232 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was Midwest boys. 233 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 5: Yeah. I love my Midwest. I'm Midwest boys love him. 234 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 235 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 2: Well, Danny, you really are living the dream right now. 236 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 2: I mean, you wrote, produced, and starred in the new 237 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 2: Hallmark Channel holiday movie Deck the Walls, which is trending 238 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 2: on Peacock. Congratulations, it's so hard to trend. 239 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 5: Thank you so much. Yeah, we were in the top 240 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 5: ten on Peacock after the release, and we were in 241 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 5: the top ten of all the TV shows on Friday 242 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 5: night when we premiered. And it's going to be airing 243 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 5: a bunch of if people haven't seen it, it'll be 244 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 5: airing throughout the season on the Hallmark channels. So there's like, 245 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 5: you know how they rerun those a million times? So 246 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 5: he catched Deck the Walls whenever you see it as 247 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 5: if you're flipping the channels, Can you give. 248 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 4: Us a little taste. 249 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 2: What does a Danny Pellegrino spin on a holiday movie 250 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 2: look like? 251 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 5: I mean, of course you're all gonna roll your eyes 252 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 5: or your listeners are gonna roll your eyes when I 253 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 5: say this, but I really love the trope of a 254 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 5: big city Goal goes back to her small hometown and 255 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 5: falls in love with the honky guy from her past, Like. 256 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 1: I wanted that sweet Home Alabama. 257 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, yes, I wanted that. So I know sometimes 258 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 5: when I talk about the movie, people roll their eyes 259 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 5: because that is like sort of the essence of Deck 260 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 5: the Walls. But I wanted it to be that, and 261 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 5: I hope that people watch it and they're going into 262 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 5: it with that framework, but then also finding that there's 263 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 5: little other touches. I'm super proud of the fact that 264 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 5: the movie's already premiered. So this is a bit of 265 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 5: a spoiler. Maybe fast forward if you don't want the spoiler, 266 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 5: but I'm super proud. At the end, our big city 267 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 5: Goal doesn't end up staying in the small town. She 268 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 5: doesn't give up her career. She goes back to her 269 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 5: big city job, and instead she convinces the guy, Hey, 270 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 5: I'll give you a job if you want, and then 271 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 5: there's an LGBTQ romance. I'm very proud of the relationship 272 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 5: that my character has with the other male Lea, who's 273 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 5: a straight guy, we're best friends in it, and I 274 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 5: think that's a rare dynamic to see on screen. So 275 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 5: there's a lot of little touches within the framework of 276 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 5: a hopefully very classically structured Hallmark Christmas movie that well, 277 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 5: hopefully people will enjoy throughout the holiday season. But even 278 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 5: within that genre, there's like these house renovation Christmas movies, 279 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 5: so like, even that's sort of like a subgenre too, 280 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 5: so I was excited to sort of celebrate that as well. 281 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 5: And you get all those trope things that you love, 282 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 5: I hope, but then get those little twists on them 283 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 5: as well. 284 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 3: Danny, you've written several books, so I knew that you 285 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 3: were a beautiful writer, but I had no idea that 286 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 3: you wanted to act. And how cool that you wrote 287 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 3: your own role. 288 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 5: Thank you. I did, and I had to audition too, 289 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 5: by the way, which was weird because I wrote it 290 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 5: for me. But I understand too, because it's a pretty 291 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 5: large leading role in the movie and I don't have 292 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 5: a lot of experience doing this sort of thing. I 293 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 5: do come from an acting background, and that was always 294 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 5: sort of the goal. Unfortunately, with writing and podcasting, I 295 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 5: got a little off track with that. But so that 296 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 5: was always kind of the dream and the goal, and 297 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 5: so I was thrilled that Hallmark let me be in 298 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 5: it and that was kind of like the most fun 299 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 5: creatively because it was a new experience. 300 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 3: Danny, I love your podcast Everything iconic. I do think 301 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,119 Speaker 3: you were one of the first on the podcast scene. 302 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 3: You were podcasting before everyone else was podcasting. 303 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 5: Well, there were some definitely before me. A Bitch Sash 304 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 5: was like kind of like the gold star, the shining 305 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 5: star for me. I loved that podcast and the watchw 306 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 5: Crappens guys are great. They were much sooner than I 307 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 5: am in terms of like covering Real Housewives and Bravo 308 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 5: and reality TV. But it was like seven years ago, 309 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 5: which or twenty seventeen was when I started, which is 310 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 5: crazy to say now, but it's been a while that 311 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 5: I've been covering reality TV and all that. 312 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 3: Well, there's definitely an emphasis on the Bravo universe, which 313 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 3: I love. 314 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 4: And this week was a big week for Bravo fans. 315 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 3: The network announce a complete overhaul of vander Pump Rules. 316 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 3: Simon and I were talking about this before the show started. 317 00:14:56,440 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 3: Kind of shocking because there's so much IP built into 318 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 3: that show. We know all the characters, the scanned of 319 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 3: all of it all, La La Kent, Tom Schwartz, Sheena Shehay, 320 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 3: Ariano Maddox, they're all. They're all saying goodbye to vander 321 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 3: Pump Rules. There's an entirely new cast being put in. 322 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 3: What is happening here? I've never seen a network do this. 323 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 5: It's shocking to me that they did it, especially after 324 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 5: they did it with the Real Houses in New York. 325 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 5: And I think, by and large, and I don't want 326 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 5: to speak for everyone, but I think by and large, 327 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 5: the response to the new Real Houses in New York 328 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 5: has been not great. Audience really is not great. Yeah, 329 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 5: I mean, at least I love it. I mean I 330 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 5: think there's a lot of people I think that must 331 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 5: really like it. But in terms of ratings and at 332 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 5: least in my experience with people who watch these shows 333 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 5: and DM man stuff, it seems like the audience response 334 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 5: is not great. So I was shocked that they would 335 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 5: do it to vander Pump, especially because that was sort 336 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 5: of the highest rated show for a while and it 337 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 5: was interesting to me. But I'm sure creatively they looked 338 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 5: at it and thought where do we go or how 339 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 5: do we go from here with the current cast, and 340 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 5: maybe they just couldn't find a creative way to make 341 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 5: it work. Also, as these shows go, they get so 342 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 5: much more expensive with cast, so maybe they looked at 343 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 5: the financials and it didn't make sense. But I'm a 344 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 5: bigger fan for Bravo doing like those soft reboots that 345 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 5: they've done where it's like keep a couple anchors and 346 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 5: then bring in a few fresh people. Sometimes I think 347 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 5: that I'll be so skeptical of the decision that Bravo 348 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 5: makes with casting or something, and then a year later 349 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 5: or something, you're like, oh, that they totally Why did 350 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 5: I even think that they wouldn't figure it out? 351 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 2: Danny, if you were the exec in charge making the 352 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 2: next moves for vander Pump Rules, who would you cast 353 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 2: or who are the types of people that you would cast? 354 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 5: Well, I think going forward, knowing that we're doing a reboot, 355 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 5: I'm sure they're still going to be bringing in people 356 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 5: for guest stars. I thought. I just saw Ariana on 357 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 5: a red carpet somewhere and she was saying, Oh, if 358 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 5: any of the new people want to walk next door 359 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 5: to something about her and get a sandwich, And I 360 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 5: was like, oh, that makes so much sense of like 361 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 5: how they'll probably launch this. Of course, I think those 362 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 5: cast members are going to be gone, but I would 363 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 5: be surprised if that first episode doesn't have some of 364 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 5: those characters, whether they be Katie at the sandwich shop 365 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 5: while the new characters come in there, or you know, 366 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 5: some sort of mentorship role. I would imagine there's going 367 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 5: to be a lot of guest spots, and that's what 368 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 5: I would do. Even though we got rid of all 369 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 5: those people, they're still sort of in that restaurant universe, 370 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 5: and so I would just litter the show with whatever 371 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 5: guest spots made sense for the old cast while we 372 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 5: got to know these other people. Because of course we 373 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 5: don't want to shortchange the new cast members. I think 374 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 5: it's important that we get to know them. But I 375 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 5: think it'll help with that ip that you mentioned, I 376 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 5: think Danielle earlier where it's like it'll still be recognizable, 377 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 5: because I think there's going to be a lot of 378 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 5: people that just decide, Okay, well it's the end of 379 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 5: the road for this group that I've gotten to know 380 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 5: over so long. I mean, I've watched from the beginning, 381 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 5: and I tend to talk to a lot of people 382 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 5: about these shows, because people come up to me or 383 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 5: family or friends will be like, Oh, let's talk about this. 384 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 5: And the kind of response I'm seeing is that I 385 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 5: think a lot of the people that have followed it 386 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 5: for so long, they're just going to be kind of 387 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 5: done with the show, not even necessarily because they're upset 388 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 5: with the new show or anything like that. It just 389 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 5: feels like a final and easy way to wrap up 390 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 5: their viewing of this show. So I talked to my 391 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 5: brothers and sisters in law the chapter closed, Yeah, and 392 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 5: they don't. There's a lot of people who I think 393 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 5: kind of casually watch these shows or have caught up 394 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 5: with them for years, and I think they'll just sort 395 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 5: of dip out. But maybe if there's a big scandal 396 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 5: or the new cast has something, they'll be right. 397 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 3: Back on board. 398 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 2: We're going to take a quick break from popping Off, 399 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 2: but we'll be right back with Danny Pellegrino. We're back 400 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 2: to popping off with Danny Pellegrino. The New York Times 401 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 2: just put out its list of the best movies of 402 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 2: the year, and film critics who work for the paper 403 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 2: ranked their ten favorites. So it's interesting about this list. 404 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 2: I'm curious to hear what you guys think, but to me, 405 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 2: it just illustrates that divide between what the audience likes 406 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 2: and what critics like. So let's get into it. Yes, 407 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 2: so what's on this list? It's not the movies that 408 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 2: everyone's talking about. It's not Wicked. There's no Inside Out too, 409 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 2: no Gladiator too. So number one on the critics list 410 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 2: is the film All We Imagine is Light by Indian 411 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 2: filmmaker Payel Capadia. Another film that's on this list is Nickelboys, 412 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 2: which is based on Colson Whitehead's novel of the same name, 413 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 2: and it follows two teenage boys at a reform school 414 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 2: in the sixties. 415 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 4: Some other movies on. 416 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 2: The list Jesse Eisenberg's A Real Pain, George Miller's Furiosa 417 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 2: Mad Max Saga, Francis Ford Coppola's Megalopolis, which is interesting 418 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 2: because that was critically panned and did not perform well 419 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 2: at the box office, and then Sean Baker's a Noorra. 420 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 2: He also did the Florida Project from a few years back. 421 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 2: So did this list surprise you? 422 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 3: I'm so embarrassed. I haven't heard of any not one 423 00:19:58,320 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 3: of these movies. 424 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:01,479 Speaker 4: I have not even heard their title. 425 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 2: That's kind of what I was saying, Like, it feels like, 426 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 2: and it's been like this for as long as I 427 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 2: can remember. It feels like the people who critically review 428 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 2: films are not on the same page as the audience. 429 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 2: The desires and wants are completely on different pages. 430 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 5: Here well, Devil's advocate, though, I would also just say that, 431 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 5: you know, sometimes it's great that they would be spotlighting 432 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 5: these movies that otherwise the major audiences wouldn't be privy to, 433 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 5: ye saying, and so like, I think that's kind of 434 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 5: cool because I have heard of a lot of that. 435 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 5: I haven't seen a lot of the lists that you 436 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 5: just said, but I've sort of heard loosely from like 437 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 5: film buff friends and stuff, and a lot of movies 438 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 5: like Nora has been one that's been on my list 439 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 5: that I'm like, oh, I have to see that because 440 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 5: I've heard such good things. But it's not one that 441 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 5: I would have ever heard of otherwise. 442 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 4: I just watched a Noora. 443 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 5: Did you like it? 444 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 4: I'm obsessed. I want to watch it over and over again. 445 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 2: Wow, it's a black comedy that has so much heart. 446 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 4: The ending completely blew me away. The star of the film. 447 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 4: Hold on, let me look up her name. 448 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 5: What is it, Mikey Madden. She's Mikey mat from Better Things? 449 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 5: Did you ever watch Better Things? That show is so 450 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 5: great and she was great in it. But I heard 451 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 5: Anora it is fantastic. 452 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 4: It's fantastic. 453 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 2: Mikey Madison is the star of this film, and she 454 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 2: said that she really wanted to bring dignity to the 455 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 2: lives of sex workers through this performance, and she really 456 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 2: really does that. 457 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 5: So good. 458 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 2: Danielle, if you haven't seen any of the movies on 459 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 2: that list, what movies made your list for best movies 460 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 2: of the year? 461 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 4: Ooh, that's an interesting question. 462 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 3: Well, first, I agree with Danny in that similar to 463 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 3: this list, I feel this way about the Oscars. Usually 464 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 3: there's a ton of movies that pop up that I 465 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 3: haven't heard of, and I like learning about them, and 466 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 3: then I kind of like slowly watched throughout the year, 467 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 3: which is fun and I feel more cultured. Let's see 468 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four best movies of the year. 469 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 4: What did I watch Wicked? For sure? Danny? Have you 470 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 4: seen it yet? 471 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 5: Yes? Yes? And like everyone, I feel like I saw 472 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 5: it and became upset with it. Afterwards, right, like, I 473 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 5: just I can't stop thinking about it. 474 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, and stop thinking about it. That's incredible. That was 475 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 3: probably my number one. 476 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 5: It was one of those movies too that I felt 477 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 5: like you left the theater and my heart grew three 478 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 5: sizes when I saw Wicked, where it was like, oh 479 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 5: my gosh, I'm fulfilled in a way that I hadn't 480 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 5: been by art in a while, which sounds over dramatic 481 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 5: and whatever, but it's not though I felt that way. 482 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 2: It's not though, because that movie carries with it the 483 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 2: collective dreams and hopes and pain of an entire community. 484 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 2: It's not just the theater community. It's also just anybody 485 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 2: who's ever been othered or bullied. So the layers that 486 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 2: specifically this version of Wicked gave to us, like through 487 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 2: Cynthia's portrayal, the fact that she's a black alphaba, I mean, 488 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 2: it just expands the universe and the meaning of it 489 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 2: so much. 490 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 5: Did you feel like you went into it. I was 491 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 5: worried about it being part one of two, and I thought, 492 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 5: me too sure that that was a mistake. I thought 493 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 5: this is the worst thing to do, and then I 494 00:22:58,800 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 5: saw it and I was like, no, they made the 495 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 5: right decision. That's time. 496 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I want more. I can't wait to go 497 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: see the second one. 498 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 5: And it still felt like a complete movie. 499 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 3: So moan, I'm going to name one that you love. Okay, 500 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 3: what's that Inside Out Too was amazing? 501 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 2: It was It was really good. That one was more 502 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 2: for the parents in the audience or for the adults 503 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 2: than it was for the kids. 504 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 3: So many kids I saw it, so many people dressed 505 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 3: up as like adults dressed up as the Inside Out 506 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 3: Too characters for Halloween. 507 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 5: I also think that scene with anxiety at the end 508 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 5: of Inside Out Too. Everyone kind of knows when I'm 509 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 5: talking about the swirling anxiety. Yes, yeah, I've never I'm 510 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 5: someone who's dealt with anxiety most of my life and 511 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 5: mental health struggles and stuff, and I've never seen it 512 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 5: portrayed so accurately. And it was like this CGI cartoon 513 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 5: and I was like, oh my gosh, it blew me away. 514 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 5: That scene blew me away. 515 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 2: Oh that's amazing. That is the power of art. We 516 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 2: talk about wicked. It can help us view life through 517 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 2: a different lens and give us new perspective. When I 518 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 2: think about the movies, my best movies of the year, 519 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 2: I'm thinking about the movies that really impacted me emotionally. 520 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 2: The Substance is high up on that list for me. 521 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 2: Did you guys see The Substance? 522 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 5: I haven't watched it yet because I think it's going 523 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 5: to be I've heard it's really intense, and I just 524 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 5: haven't been able to muster up the energy to do it. 525 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 4: It's super intense, Danielle. 526 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 2: I'm really curious to hear what you think because it 527 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 2: hits on so many of the themes that we talk 528 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 2: about on our show. It's basically an indictment of impossible 529 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 2: beauty standards. 530 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 4: Oh wow, but. 531 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 2: It's it's done in such an exaggerated fashion. It just 532 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 2: really drives home the point in a really powerful way. 533 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: Is that the one with Demi Moore? 534 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 4: Yes, this is the one with Demi Moore and Margaret Qually. 535 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 2: Oh. 536 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 3: Our show runner Tim is obsessed with this movie. I 537 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 3: have to watch. H Okay, Danny, we have another question 538 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 3: for you. I went to a Sabrina Carpenter concert a 539 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 3: few weeks ago, and I hadn't been to like a 540 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 3: pop stars concert in a while, and I definitely hadn't 541 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 3: been to like the next Gen pop star concert in 542 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 3: a while, and I feel like a lot has changed. 543 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 3: I'm curious about where you feel the state of pop 544 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 3: stardom is right now for female pop stars. 545 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 5: Well, I'm loving that the gals are all front and 546 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 5: center right now. You know, Chapel Roan, Billie Eilish, Taylor Swift, Beyonce, 547 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 5: you know all these people are. I like that it's 548 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 5: very female forward right now and pop music, and it's 549 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 5: so interesting. I just went to the Eras tour and 550 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 5: it was I felt very old there because there was 551 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 5: a lot of young people, all different ages. But I 552 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 5: was surrounded by these young people who were They were 553 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 5: on TikTok the whole time, like they were live streaming it, 554 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 5: which I thought was interesting. But I'm thrilled about the 555 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 5: state of pop music at the moment. I feel like 556 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 5: there's a lot of great women that are killing it 557 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 5: right now. Did you guys do the Spotify rapped? Did 558 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 5: you do that? 559 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: Yes? 560 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 5: Mine was embarrassing. 561 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 3: To tell me why we're always embarrassed by our Spotify raps. 562 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 3: It's time to air your dirty laundry. I want to 563 00:25:55,760 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 3: know everybody's top five, top five artists and then give 564 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 3: me your number one song too. 565 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 5: Okay, I have my top five right in front of me. 566 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 5: Here my top five artists. Taylor Swift, Ariana Grande, Beyonce 567 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 5: Cher was in my top five this year, so there, 568 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 5: there we go. Kelly Clarkson, I was in my top five, 569 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 5: and then my number one song was I Know I'm 570 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 5: So Gay, I'm So Gay. My number one song was 571 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 5: I'm going to Get You Back by Taylor Swift, which 572 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,479 Speaker 5: was actually on like the second part of her Tortured 573 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 5: Poets album, so it was like a you know, a 574 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 5: B side, but I love that song I'm going to 575 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 5: Get You Back. 576 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 4: Okay. 577 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 2: Here my top artists. Number one is the film composer 578 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 2: Thomas Newman. He's behind acclaimed soundtracks to Little Women and 579 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 2: American Beauty. Max Richter is like a instrumental composer, so 580 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 2: those are like my focus soundtracks that I listened to 581 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 2: when I'm working, So apparently I did a lot of that. 582 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,199 Speaker 2: Other artists Chapelerone of course, Christine and the Queens, and 583 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 2: Novo More. My number one song is the song that 584 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 2: really took me by surprise. The song that I listened 585 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 2: to the most was I Surround Are All by gospel 586 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 2: legend CC Winans I love that I was really connected 587 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 2: to a higher source. 588 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 4: I'll just say that. 589 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 3: That's I think that's beautiful, Okay. My top five are 590 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 3: Number one is Thames, number two is snow Allegra, number 591 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 3: three is Jojo, number four is Drake, and number five 592 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 3: is burna Boy. My top song is dou Wop by 593 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 3: Lauren Hill. But I do have to give a shout 594 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 3: out to my number five top song, which is Wine 595 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 3: Slow by Egyptian. 596 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 4: Why was that my number five song? 597 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 3: This is what I'm talking about when it comes to 598 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 3: being embarrassing. 599 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 4: Why were you embarrassed about yours? 600 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 5: I don't get too embarrassed. I mean, I know, I 601 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 5: just said I was embarrassed. I kind of think it's 602 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 5: just all funny and silly, but I do have old 603 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 5: music taste. So my Melissa Ethritch was in like my 604 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 5: top five because of a song that she performed. This 605 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 5: is so weird to even say out loud, but the 606 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 5: roso I'll show for a while was like uploading episodes 607 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 5: to YouTube, like from the nineties, full episodes, and I 608 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 5: had been watching one one night and Melissa Ethridge performed 609 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 5: this song and it's like a ballad, and I became 610 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 5: obsessed with it in the summertime, and so it's in 611 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 5: my top five, but it's like a B side of 612 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 5: Melissa Ethridges from ninety nine and it was like number 613 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:20,360 Speaker 5: three on my. 614 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 4: List standing that tracks for you. 615 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 5: It felt right, it felt right. But also I think 616 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 5: for the artists, I think Beyonce and Taylor Swift for 617 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 5: it both in in my top and the Ariana Grande 618 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 5: album I loved. And then also there was like an 619 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 5: obscure vander Pump Rules song that was like in my 620 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 5: I thought it was going to be in top five. 621 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 5: I thought it for sure it was going to be 622 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 5: in top five, and then it just missed the cut. 623 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 5: But it's called girls Girl, and I fell asleep to 624 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 5: it on a plane on and it was on repeat, 625 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 5: and I was like, that's going to be my number one, 626 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 5: but it just missed out on the top five. 627 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: That's hilarious, Simone, Why were you embarrassed? 628 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 2: I'm embarrassed because I lack self awareness. Like I was 629 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 2: like getting ready to open up my spot if I wrapped, 630 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, yeah, mine's gonna be like 631 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 2: super cool. It's gonna be like a bunch of like 632 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 2: cool indie female artists like check this, I open it up. 633 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 2: My top song is I Surrender All by cc Winans, 634 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 2: So I was clear I know I love cc win 635 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,479 Speaker 2: in too, but I think I was clearly going through something. 636 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 2: If that was that was for what song, I must 637 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 2: have been going through a hard time. Also on there 638 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 2: was like Chapelerone Christine and the Queens the song love 639 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 2: My Way. So yeah, so we still have like a 640 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 2: lot of you know, feminine indie energy on there, but 641 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 2: there's a dissonance between who I think I am and 642 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 2: who I really am. 643 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 3: I think you hit on something. I think that's why 644 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,959 Speaker 3: these are embarrassing. Yes, yes, did anybody have Beyonce on 645 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 3: their list? 646 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 5: She was on my top artist list, and I think 647 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 5: her song with Miley was like in my top ten 648 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 5: or something. You wait real quickly though, I just one 649 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 5: of the other sort of embarrassing, but I want to 650 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 5: I give a plug too. Is Addison Ray's Diet PEPSI. 651 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 5: That was like in my top and I was like 652 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 5: obsessed with that. 653 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 4: So I still have especially a good song. 654 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 5: It's so good and I was like it started as 655 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 5: a joke, but yeah, so the first time I listened 656 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 5: to it, I was like making fun of it, and 657 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 5: then it literally is in my top five and I 658 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 5: couldn't shout out from the rooftops more. I think it's 659 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 5: like the best song ever. 660 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 3: She's had a real good rebrand this year. It's time 661 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 3: for another short break, but we'll be back with Danny Pellegrino. 662 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 3: And we're back with Danny Pellegrino. 663 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 4: Okay. 664 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 3: So, Beyonce was named Billboard's Greatest Pop Star of the 665 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 3: twenty first century. Mind you, we're only twenty five years 666 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 3: into the century, okay, for twenty four and a half 667 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 3: twenty four and three fourth. Rounding out the top ten 668 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 3: were Adele at number ten, Ariana Grande, Justin Bieber, Kanye West, 669 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 3: Betney Spears, Lady Gaga, Drake Rihanna, Taylor Swift, and then 670 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 3: Beyonce at number one. 671 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 5: Wasn't it between? Wasn't it? Taylor and Beyonce were like 672 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 5: the top two and everyone was wondering, like who was 673 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 5: gonna come out on top or something like that. 674 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 4: Was that Pear Summer. 675 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 5: Too, And it was like, yeah, I feel like I 676 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 5: saw a headline or something about that, because they had 677 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 5: released the list sort of in piecemeals, so it was 678 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 5: like everybody had been waiting to see who the top 679 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 5: few were. 680 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 3: Wait, Danny, you're right, because it says well, Taylor Swift 681 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 3: is the century's biggest pop star. By the numbers, Beyonce 682 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 3: tops our staff chosen editorial list based on her full 683 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 3: twenty five years of influence, impact and evolution. 684 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 5: I think Taylor Swift would even admit that Beyonce probably 685 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 5: deserved that top spot. When I love them all and both, I. 686 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 2: Feel like a group of writers at Boboard got together 687 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 2: and were like, listen, we know we're only twenty four 688 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 2: years into this new century, but they're going to remember 689 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 2: our names. We are going to we are going to 690 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 2: tell them that Beyonce is the greatest artist of this 691 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 2: century and they can't take that away from. 692 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 4: Us because it is kind of crasy. We're so early. 693 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 5: There was also a lot of people on that missed 694 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 5: that list that I was upset about. So, you know, 695 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 5: with all of these lists, I take it with a 696 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 5: grain of salt. But I feel like Mariah Carey wasn't 697 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 5: even on that list, and I'm like, come. 698 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 4: On, she has to be. 699 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 3: What's weird is Adele was on the list. And while 700 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 3: Adell is I think one of the best artists of 701 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 3: all time. I don't know if I put her in 702 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 3: the pop star category, like I would definitely put Mariah 703 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 3: in there first. 704 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean there's a lot of I don't know. 705 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 5: It goes back to what we were saying earlier with 706 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 5: these lists, where I just sometimes feel like they're created 707 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 5: for outrage, and of course we all get outrage saying 708 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 5: oh Mariah didn't even make the list or whatever the 709 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 5: thing is, and of course it just helps get everyone 710 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 5: their clicks on stuff. But then I wonder sometimes, like 711 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 5: how purposeful was that. I know, I sound like a 712 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 5: conspiracy theorist on your podcast saying. 713 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 2: That we love a little harmless pop conspiracy theory. 714 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 4: Here's what's weird. 715 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 3: Three men were on the list, Kanye Drake, Justin Bieber. 716 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 3: I can get behind me. Jbiebes know, well, he is 717 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 3: kind of a pop star. I do get your fall. 718 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 5: That's your fault that he's that he's on that list, 719 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 5: because I feel like without your impact of a Spotify, 720 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 5: without your Spotify list, they might not have taken that 721 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 5: in consideration. 722 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: Can we all three agree that Kanye West should not 723 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: be on the list. 724 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 2: I'm surprised that given his rhetoric over the past couple 725 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 2: of years that he was on this list. 726 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 3: I just think there's so many other women that deserve 727 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 3: to be on the list before Kanye West. 728 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 5: I mean, yes, yes, it's a list. It's designed for 729 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 5: our outrage. 730 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 2: You know what people are gonna say though, just that 731 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 2: Kanye is a musical genius, Like separate the art from 732 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 2: the artist, and if. 733 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: That's your stance, that's fine. 734 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 3: But I still don't agree that you're on the pop 735 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 3: star list. 736 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 5: You're right about Adele though, because I don't. I love 737 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 5: her and have seen her live a million times, but 738 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 5: I don't consider I don't think of her in like 739 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 5: pop star terms. To me, she's like a vocal prowess 740 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 5: or a vocal legend. 741 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, or one of like the classic divas, you know, 742 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 3: like yeah, to me, she's going to be like in 743 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 3: the Diana Ross, you know, turn just incredible vocalists. 744 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 2: Wait you guys, I just realized Creed isn't even on 745 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 2: this list anyway. 746 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,879 Speaker 5: Oh my god, and it's null and void. I was right, 747 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 5: conspiracy talk about rage bait and where's next on. 748 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: Your Spotify simone? 749 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 2: See another another example of a lack of self awareness. 750 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 2: I thought Creed was going to be in my top ten. 751 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 2: I guess I need to go harder next year for 752 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 2: Scott Stap. 753 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 3: I also just want to say for all of the 754 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 3: millennial women out there, they put Britney Spears on the list, 755 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 3: and they did not put Christina Aguilera or Jessica Simpson. 756 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 5: That's the real egregious era, Danielle. There's no will of Ford. 757 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 5: I don't I didn't see her anywhere, and I'm pissed 758 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 5: about it. 759 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 2: Danny Pellegrino, you are such a joy. Thank you so 760 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 2: much for joining us and bringing all your expertise. 761 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 5: Thank you so much for having me, And hopefully people 762 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 5: will check out Deck the Walls when it's airing on 763 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 5: the Hallmark Channel throughout the season. And then I also 764 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 5: have a holiday book called The Jolly's Bunch, which is 765 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 5: new in paperback if anyone wants to laugh throughout the 766 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 5: holiday season. It's also on. 767 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 3: Audiobook and listen to your podcast Everything Iconic, because it 768 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 3: is so iconic. 769 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 5: It's so gross to do these plugs, but you know, 770 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:10,919 Speaker 5: we got to keep the lights on. Thank you guys 771 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 5: for having me. 772 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 4: Of course it was so fun. 773 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 3: Danny Pellegrino's in New York Times best selling author comedian 774 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 3: and host of the podcast Everything Iconic. You can watch 775 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 3: his new movie Deck the Walls on Hallmark this season. 776 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:30,959 Speaker 4: That's it for today's show. 777 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 2: On Monday, We're answering all your burning holiday etiquette questions 778 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 2: with etiquette author and entrepreneur Micah Meyer. 779 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 3: Listen and follow The bright Side on the iHeartRadio app, 780 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 3: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The bright 781 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 3: Side is a production of Hello Sunshine and iHeart Podcasts 782 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 3: and is executive produced by Reese. 783 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:56,839 Speaker 2: Witherspoon, production by Arcana Audio. Our producers are Jessica Wank, 784 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 2: Krista Ripple, and Amy Padula. Our senior produces It's i 785 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 2: Kin Tania, and our engineer is PJ. 786 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 4: Shahamat. 787 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,240 Speaker 3: Ar Cona's executive producers are Francis Harlowe and Abby Ruzika. 788 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: Arcana's head of production is Matt Schultz. 789 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 2: Natalie Tullup and Maureen Polo are the executive producers for 790 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 2: Hello Sunshine. 791 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 3: Julia Weaver is the supervising producer, and Ali Perry is 792 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 3: the executive producer for iHeart Podcasts. Tim Palazzola is our showrunner. 793 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 3: This week's episodes were recorded by Graham Gibson and Joel Morales. 794 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 2: Our theme song is by Anna Stump and Hamilton lighthauser. 795 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,800 Speaker 1: Special thanks to Connell Byrne and Will Pearson. 796 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 4: I'm Simone Boyce. 797 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 2: You can find me at Simone Boyce on Instagram and TikTok. 798 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: And I'm Danielle Robey on Instagram and TikTok. 799 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,399 Speaker 4: That's ro b a y We'll see you Monday, y'all. 800 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 2: Keep looking on the bright side.