1 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: Ronan the Cheap Car is gone. That beater that so 2 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: many people drove in high school back in the day, 3 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: That cheap car that ran for two years just to 4 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: get by while you were trying to get to the 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: next level in life. A thousand dollars card? Did I 6 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: ever buy a thousand dollars the car Doctor? Do you 7 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:35,319 Speaker 1: eat col Kutz? Yeah? Do you like Bologny? No, it's 8 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: not one of my favorite. Well, I'm sorry to hear that, 9 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: because I think you're getting a bologna sandwich at a 10 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: dollar fifty nine pound. Brother. Welcome to the radio home 11 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: of ron Andanian the Car Doctor, since this is where 12 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: car owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion 13 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, 14 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: pick up the phone and call in. The garage doors 15 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: are open, but I am here to take your calls 16 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 1: at eight five and now running. If there's one thing 17 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: forty five plus years of auto repair has taught me, 18 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna see Tom Ray smile in a minute, 19 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: it's you better be quick on your feet, and so 20 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: is live talk radio. Because about thirty two seconds ago, 21 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: we just suffered a major computer reboot right here in 22 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: the studio and we're back up and running. And um, 23 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: it would have been interesting because I know Tom would 24 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: have been tuned into me telepathically. He knew he knew 25 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: what I was gonna do, and I knew what he 26 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: was gonna do. And we could have done this thing 27 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 1: without computers in front of us. But here we are, 28 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car Doctor. My name's Ron and Ai 29 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: and the phone numbers eight five zero zero zero. I 30 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: want to know what, what if you didn't have a crank, 31 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: have to crank that computer up to make it work, 32 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: you'd be all set. While I was trying to, you know, 33 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: make the mouse spin the wheel a little faster. Just 34 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Tom, the whole thing went ka flue. 35 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: And you gotta feed that mouse once in a while, dude. 36 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: You know the agility of computers. And I look at 37 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: all of this and I say, and this is what's 38 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: going to run the car. And nobody seems to understand 39 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: the concern for this. I will say this. And you 40 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: know a lot of people have said to me as 41 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: I talked to you, all of you, you know, either 42 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: by text or email or phone or however it is 43 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: they're all kind of leaning yet Ron, You're right. You know, 44 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: electric cars are going to be a hassle because of this, 45 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: this and this, and nobody seems to want to do 46 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:36,399 Speaker 1: anything about it. I saw an interesting story. I think 47 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: it was on Homebox, and my wife actually recorded it 48 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: for me because she said she was watching it. I 49 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: started to watch it. She said, look, they're they're talking 50 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 1: about what you were saying. How with electric vehicles there's 51 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: no way to collect gas tax and they're going to 52 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: have to install the government is going to install devices 53 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: in the electric vehicle or some level of government that's 54 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: going to record miles driven and then send you a 55 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: tax bill. Can you say nine four George Orwell he 56 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: missed it by about thirty five, maybe forty years, but 57 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: he was right here we go, okay, and everybody's just 58 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: gonna blindly accept this. I think cars are gonna get 59 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: to be political. I think they already are, and and 60 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: it's just gonna be an interesting right. I wanted to 61 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: start this hour talking to you about we've I've been 62 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: keeping track. We've done nine eight or nine different air 63 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: conditioning repairs in the shop in the last week and 64 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: a half, and every one of them was different, and 65 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: I thought it was just interesting about all the little 66 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: things that can go wrong with air conditioning. I was 67 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: gonna talk to you about that. Um, I was gonna 68 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: talk to you about customer presentation and whether or not you, 69 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: as a customer, do you actually listen to what your 70 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: mechanics says you do you just nod your head say yes, 71 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: and when there's a problem you blame the mechanic anyway, UM, 72 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: I was gonna talk about that, but you know what, 73 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: the phones are backed up. Let's kick off this hour 74 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: of the Car Doctor, this Father's Day edition of the 75 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. Let's go to I guess we'll go to uh. 76 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: Let's go to Jim in Missouri and talk to about 77 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: his OH five Ford Ranger. Jim. Welcome a board, sir, 78 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: How can I help? Hi? Ron, Thanks for the call, um, 79 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: second time caller? Congratulations, how can I help? Yeah? So 80 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: it's an O five Ranger and starts up fine cold. 81 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: I take off about a mile and it starts to miss, 82 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: and it's a very steady miss. It lasts for thirty 83 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 1: to forty five seconds and it's like somebody hits the switch. 84 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: It snows right out and it runs fine. The rest 85 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 1: of the day. Okay, what engines? What engines in this gym. 86 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: It's a two point three four cylinder and I drive 87 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: it a hundred miles to work, and I drive it 88 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: a hundred miles back every day, so I worry about 89 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: breaking down on the interstate. You have something sure? Yeah? 90 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: Um and um. Four months ago the coil went out, 91 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: so I thought new never ever works. I changed the coil, 92 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: but that didn't fix it. I had eighty thousand miles 93 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: on the plugs. I pulled them there at s so 94 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: I replaced the bucks um, but nothing to change. Everything's 95 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: I downical and didn't didn't make a difference. Okay, And 96 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: it's it's a clear cut miss. Oh yeah. And it varies. 97 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's it's it's soft, you can feel it, but 98 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: it's not bad. Other times it's so bad. Um, I 99 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: lose speed, I can't even hold speed. And when it 100 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: does that, the engine lights flashes. And then as soon 101 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: as I feel a switch so to speak, and it 102 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: takes off, the light just go slid. Any reason why 103 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: you haven't scanned for code yet, or you have you 104 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: scanned and there are none. I have a scanner, and 105 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: it says I forget them to one critical misfire. I'm 106 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: sorry I said that again. Jim says critical misfire. I 107 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: think it's a p three oh one. Okay, so it's 108 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 1: reporting a misfire on cylinder one. No, it doesn't give 109 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: a cylinder. Well, you just said, you just said, you 110 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: just said three oh one. It's got to give it. 111 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: It's got to give a number to go with the description. 112 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: Got you all right? Yeah, I'm sure it's three oh one. Okay. 113 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: Three o one would be a misfire on cylinder one. 114 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: All right, so go back and check that. Now, keep 115 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: in mind you've gone through ignition once or twice. Here 116 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: no rule that says this is only ignition. This could 117 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: be fuel related, this could be a lean condition. The 118 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: fact that it's the fact that it's happening on one 119 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: doesn't mean it's not starting to happen on other cylinders. 120 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: But it hasn't happened enough to set a fault code. 121 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: You probably don't have a scan tool capable of it. 122 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: But here's a classic example of if I can get 123 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: into some kind of steady beat where it happens on 124 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: a consistent basis, it might pay for you to spend 125 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: and buy an hour of a shop's time. Somebody that 126 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: can get into modes six. Have you heard me talk 127 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: about modes six before? Okay? And you know, here's an 128 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 1: example of looking at behind the scenes data. The data 129 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: that drives the check engine light that drives the engine 130 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: to report a failure or a fault or the computer 131 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: report of fault. Um, it would pay to buy an 132 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,559 Speaker 1: hour of that shops time. At least you've got a direction, now, 133 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: you know. Could this be a bad injector? Sure? Could 134 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: this be a PCM losing a driver for the injector, 135 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,679 Speaker 1: or a problem in the way that it's firing the 136 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: coil itself. Yeah, that's but that's that's way over the 137 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: top stuff. Let's let's go through basics first. Okay, Um, 138 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: if you were to when this is happening, is this? 139 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: Does this only happen when you are driving? Or if 140 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: you were to pull over at the side of the road, 141 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: would it still miss and and and run rough? It 142 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: will still miss and run rough. Okay, So when it 143 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: misses and runs rough, does your scan tools show data stream? 144 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: It does have live data? Okay, I was watching the 145 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: field trims and what does it do? And field trim 146 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: goes between plus and nine is two two point three 147 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: and short term and long term sitting at six point 148 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: three while the miss is happening. And then how is 149 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: that different versus what happens? You know what's happening when 150 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: you're driving down the road regular, no difference at all. 151 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: I've I've watched it all the way down to Cape 152 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: and back where I work, and it's always in that range. Okay, 153 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: So here's what I want you to do. I want 154 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: you to duplicate it in your driveway, all right, when 155 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: the miss is, when the miss is happening, I want 156 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: you to pull off a vacuum line. I want you 157 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: to make a vacuum leak. Al right, where's fuel trim? 158 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:31,239 Speaker 1: Where's fuel trim gonna go? It's gonna it's gonna should 159 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: go up right, it should go through the moon. And 160 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: what am I looking for? What do I want to 161 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: see happen? I want to see if it goes up. 162 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 1: I want to know if the scan tools reporting correct information. 163 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: I want to know if the scan tool can read 164 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: correct data. Because now I'm now I'm starting to suspect 165 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: because a misfire should create higher oxygen content, drive the 166 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: fuel mixture lean, all right, because it's not consuming the 167 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: oxygen in the cylinder. If it's an ignition misfire, if 168 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: it's a fuel missfire, it should still show lean because 169 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: there's no combustion going on, and there's less combustion going on, 170 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: I should still see a lean event. We had a 171 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: Chrysler in the shop this week. We had four different 172 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: scan tools on it, and none of them, none of 173 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: them properly reported when the cooling fan came on. They 174 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: never even acknowledged it. And I believe it was a 175 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: problem within Chrysler, within Chrysler software. We fixed the car 176 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: and we you know, we we were able to just 177 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: make notes on it. And one day I'll look up 178 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: the bolt and I'll probably find the bolt, and that 179 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: talks about a flesh for the way the pits displayed. 180 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 1: But in the meantime, you know, suffice it to say, 181 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 1: if the scan tools showing me something that makes no sense, 182 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: I want to see more information, So let's do let's 183 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: do that. So I want to know. I want to 184 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: know the fuel trim in the vehicle seem to match 185 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 1: what's really going on on the scan tool. That's number one. 186 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: Can I look at Mode six data? That's number two? 187 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: If you can stand there in your in your garage 188 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: and your driveway and here this thing start to miss. 189 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: But up up. If you listen to the injector while 190 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: it's running good, you should hear a nice click click click. 191 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: It'll be a nice steady tap tap tap tap tap. 192 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: And if all of a sudden that tap goes away, 193 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: that injector is not being driven, and that that'll tell 194 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 1: you something. So remember, a misfire is more than just 195 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 1: something ignition wise. Alright, A misfire can be you know, 196 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: an ignition, and a misfire can be fuel, mechanical or ignition. 197 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: I don't believe this is mechanical. I'm gonna take my 198 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: first run at fuel and or ignition. Let's start there, 199 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: call me back, all right. So, yeah, this is what 200 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: I needed to diagnosis. Let's let's let's break it apart. 201 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 1: Let's make it a one cylinder engine. It's reporting a 202 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: misfire on cylinder one. It's your lawnmower and the wife's saying, honey, 203 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 1: we gotta cut the lawn doesn't run right. How you 204 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: gonna diagnose it? You got one cylinder? Break it down, alright, kiddo, cool, 205 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. You're very welcome, keep me posted, 206 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 1: let me know what happens, and please call me back. 207 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: I want to know what. I'm sure all the other 208 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: listeners due to good luck to you, Jim. I'm running 209 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: any in the car doctor. We are back right after this. 210 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: What's more fun than listening to Ron and Any in 211 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: the car doctor and getting that car fixed? Right? Eight 212 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: five five five zero zero zero. Give Ron a call? 213 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 1: Now back to Ron, Hey, let's get over to Chester 214 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: in Florida and talk to him about his eighteen Toyota 215 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 1: Highland or Chester. Welcome to the car doctor, Hey, thank you, Ron, 216 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 1: You're welcome. I had with two thousand and eighteen Toyota Highland, 217 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 1: and I bought under the Toyota Certified program in December 218 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 1: in answer uh, in March, I carried it in for 219 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: the forty thousand. Now, um, I want to change and 220 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 1: the tire rotation etode checks. You know, everything went, Everything went? 221 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: Will I cared to the end last week, well before 222 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: five thousand mile all change, entire rotation and so forth, 223 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: and and that when I went to leave, the service 224 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: adviser told me said, enough, when you come back in 225 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: at the fifty tho mile mark, we need to do 226 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: a service to services that we cast a total of 227 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 1: three hundred dollars. I said, well, one of those services, 228 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 1: she said, we need to do a fuel indict induction 229 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: service and a fuel injector service. And I said, well, 230 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: that's not showing on my fifty thousand mile check yo 231 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: and my arts manual. I said, what's it for? What 232 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: does it do? She said, oh, it helps you get 233 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: better gas mileage. Well, I'm getting great gas milege car 234 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: runs well. And I just wondered, what is your opinion? 235 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: Why should not be doing a fuel induction service and 236 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: a fuel injective service at the fifty thou level mark? 237 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: Great question, Chester. So if we were at the shop, 238 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: the conversation will go like this. When we do an 239 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: oil chain, we do an oil change for customers, and 240 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: every time we do an oil change, the majority of 241 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: people get a bottle of fuel system cleaner added to 242 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: the tank. This is how we do fuel system maintenance. 243 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: This is my approach. All right, Um, so we'll add 244 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: a bottle of fuel system cleaner to the tank. What 245 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: we're looking to do is we're trying to keep carbon 246 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: deposits out of the intake valves top of the piston. 247 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: We're trying to keep the engine is clean on the 248 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: inside as we possibly can. We're also trying to promote 249 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: catalytic converter life. One of the things people don't realize 250 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: is that a good fuel injection cleaner will help clean 251 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: up the CAT after the fact, and it will put 252 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: depositive chemicals on the catalytic converter material, and as time 253 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: goes by, as the cat gets hot, it helps burn 254 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 1: off and and reduce the coding, so to speak. Um, 255 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,719 Speaker 1: there are specific fuel system cleaners that work to do that. 256 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: You're at fifty thousand miles of vehicles three going on 257 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: four years old. Do you need all this? My question 258 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: is how long do you plan to drive it? If 259 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: you want to drive the Toyota ten years and three 260 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: hundred thousand miles, you know, it's it's sort of like, 261 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: do you want to get to the hundred thousand mile 262 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: mark and then start to do some maintenance and hope 263 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: you can play catch up or do you want to 264 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: just do it from the get go. My question to 265 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: the Toyota dealer would be how often do you do 266 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: this fuel system cleaning service? Do they do it every 267 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: fifty miles? Do they do it every Yeah? See and 268 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think that's enough, all right. 269 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: I would also base it on how you know your 270 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: time frame? How often do you drive? Okay, you know 271 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: how many miles a year you putting on the vehicle. 272 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: If you're doing five thousand miles a year, it'll be 273 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: ten years before you do the next one. And to 274 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: me from a from a you know, an idoling perspective. 275 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: You know, we've got to take idoling time into effect. 276 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: You're in Florida, We've got to take heat into effect. 277 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: All right. Fuel system maintenance is still an ongoing is 278 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: still an ongoing service that we critically need. Why isn't 279 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: it an the owner's manual? It's not. And when we 280 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: say owners manual, anytime I talk about owners manual in 281 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: a vehicle, I always make a frame of reference that 282 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: there are Usually you can find two owners manuals in 283 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: a vehicle today. You'll find the one from the manufacturer, 284 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: and you'll find that dealer maintenance book that the dealer 285 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: has come up with as the alleged services that the 286 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: vehicle needs. I say alleged because some of them go overboard, 287 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: some of them do oversell. In my opinion, I've looked 288 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: at some dealers service manuals or some dealer owner manuals 289 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: that looks like the factory owner's manual. It's not. And 290 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: the dealer is trying to sell power steering flushes at 291 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: fifteen thousand miles, which is nonsense. All right. I see 292 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: no reason or an advantage to that, not to mention 293 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: the fact that the vehicle is still under warranty at 294 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: fifteen thousand miles. Why are you responsible for that service? 295 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: If it's that big a problem, the vehicle manufacturer should 296 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: do it for free. Back to your question, Okay, you're 297 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: doing this because you don't want to have to replace 298 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: that catalytic converter. You don't want to have to have 299 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: or worry about carbon deposit issues or poor performance or 300 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: mileage dropping off. You're not doing it solely for fuel economy. 301 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: You're doing it for future maintenance. Do you have a 302 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: do you have do you have a vitamin routine? Chester? Okay? 303 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: Why do you? Why do you how do you feel? 304 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: Do you feel good? Okay? Why do you take vitamins? 305 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: To right? And and you know it's it's Do you 306 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: notice when you first started taking the vitamins, you were saying, 307 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: do I really need these, but you know what, you 308 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: got the seventy four, So you're you're gonna take your 309 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: vitamins to get to eighty four, right, God will and right, 310 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: get get the ninety four four? All right? Um, you 311 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: know you want to you want to do fuel system 312 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: maintenance to get the maximum mileage out of the vehicle. 313 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: That being said, it used to be that we would 314 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: hook up a fuel system, a chemical cleaner to the injectors, 315 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: clean the injectors, The injectors would spray through and clean 316 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: the back of the intake valels, and so forth. Engines 317 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,719 Speaker 1: have gotten a lot more complicated and involved. It depends 318 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: on the engine, It depends on the combination. Toyota is 319 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: probably doing this right because I like I like what 320 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: I'm hearing. I like induction cleaning. The difference between an 321 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: induction cleaning and an injection cleaning is an induction cleaning 322 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: is putting a chemical down the air intake throat of 323 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: the engine, not through the injector rail. It's cleaning and 324 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: washing off the inside of the intake and any carbon 325 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: and any residue and flushing it out through the engine 326 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: to burn through combustion and out the tailpipe. An injection 327 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 1: cleaning is being tied into the rail itself cleaning the injectors. Um. 328 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: I will say this my experience and from what I'm 329 00:17:56,240 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: reading has been vehicles made since teening up, and I'm 330 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: talking across the board, the majority of vehicles in the 331 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: last eight to ten years have self cleaning injectors. Cleaning 332 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 1: injectors is okay, but it's more important, or just as important, 333 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: to do induction cleaning too. But it's also important to 334 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: do that bottle of fuel system cleaner at the at 335 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: the oil change on a regular basis, that's every three 336 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: or four months, every five six months. However, you're changing 337 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: loyal so they've got some validity there. I would ask 338 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: a little deeper, what does their chemical do and what 339 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 1: is it gonna precisely offer you beyond fuel economy? See 340 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 1: what kind of answers you get. Good luck to your chester. 341 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: Let me know if you need more. I'm running any 342 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: in the car, doctor, I'm coming back right after this. 343 00:18:37,320 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: Don't go away, welcome back. Wh on the end of 344 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: the car, docul Let's get over to oh, you know, 345 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 1: before I go to gym in Wisconsin. Tom. You know, 346 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 1: we were talking about government intervention and mortomobiles did you 347 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 1: hear about that? You live in New York. Did you 348 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: hear about the New York Sleep Act. Yeah, a matter 349 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 1: of fact, it's gonna do something where it's gonna they're 350 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna change or limit the um, the sound 351 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 1: of the exhaust, right, They're gonna cut back on exhaust sounds. 352 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: Well know what they're doing is they're making it illegal 353 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: to make any changes to the car that could make 354 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: it louder. What fun is that? I ate? Well, exactly, um, 355 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 1: and you know the it's funny. The article I read said, 356 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: you know, somebody said his neighbor was out at like 357 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 1: six in the morning revving the engine and you know, 358 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 1: causing a racket. And he complained to the neighbor and 359 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: he said it's not illegal. And I would kind of 360 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: beg to differ with that because there are noise ordinances. 361 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: Well you know, now listen some of them, and I 362 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: think what they're after. What I had read was there 363 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: after the little tuner cars with the you know, the 364 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: little cars that sit load to the ground, the imports 365 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: with the loud exhaust tips coming out the back, and 366 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 1: they are and I canna tell you to me, that's 367 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 1: annoying well they're there, but they're making this going after 368 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 1: all cars and bikes and motorcycles, right, so, you know, 369 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: does it look like it's gonna pass? Are you following 370 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 1: it at all? In New York? Well, you know, they 371 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: don't know, because it's headed to the governor's desk right now. 372 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: And apparently the governor is a car guy. Oh so 373 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: they don't know. They don't know what it's gonna do. Really, 374 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: I didn't know that about Cuomo. Yeah, I didn't need 375 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: you the denying it said. No, he's he's he's a 376 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: car guy. I mean I could see up to a 377 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 1: certain point, you know, I mean, you know what the 378 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: problem is. And maybe this is part of it too, 379 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 1: that there's no common sense. People just keep pushing the 380 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 1: envelope and pushing the envelope. And there is something neat 381 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: about an old Chevy with loud exhaust I mean, listen, 382 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 1: that was an era, right, that's there is that's there. 383 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 1: Comes to the point, right not at two in the morning. 384 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 1: You know, there's there's noise ordinances regard this. Okay, we 385 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: you know you can't play loud rock and roll music 386 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: at two o'clock in the morning and wake up your neighbors. 387 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 1: You shouldn't be allowed to rev up your car and 388 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: wake up your neighbors. And it's common courtesy and decency. 389 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: But unfortunately those words don't exist in the world today. Kidding, 390 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 1: they can't. No, it's a it's it's it's a problem, 391 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: it's it's it's an issue. By the way, your mike's 392 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: cutting in and out. Um, the internet's cock eyed today. 393 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: You know, we should talk about the internet. What is it? 394 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: So you did it again, So my control keeps going, oh, well, 395 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: there you go. There's something cock eyed I should point 396 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 1: out to while I can before we go completely kaflue 397 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 1: ish Um. For Father's Day, we're giving away a twenty 398 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 1: five gift card for orilly Otoparts and we're gonna do 399 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: that either this hour or next hour. So we're looking 400 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: for somebody who's got a Father's Day story. Um that uh, 401 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: you know, decision of the judge Tom Ray is final, 402 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: and we'll get that out there. For Father's Day. It 403 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: was a little late this year. We tried doing it 404 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: last week, but we didn't get we didn't get the 405 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 1: documentation in time, so it just kind of worked out 406 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: like that. But future case, you know, for Dadoto Parts 407 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: gift card um you can find all everything you needed, 408 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: or Realioto parts or Realioto dot Com is the place 409 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: to bate. Let's get out and talk to Jim in 410 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: Wisconsin now ten Toyota and some problems with possible oil 411 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: change issues. Jim, Welcome to the car doctor. Sir, How 412 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: can yes, sir? Hi? Hi run yes. Well, I've got 413 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: a question about my rap for I've got two hundred 414 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: and five thousand miles on it today, but at about 415 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: two hundred and three and a half UM, I had 416 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: to take it in. It was making a lord awful 417 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: noise from underneath. It sounded like a cover was coming 418 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 1: off or something. And I took it into a small 419 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: garage up in the woods near the lakes, and the 420 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: mechanic there said it had less than a quart of 421 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: oil in it. There was no sign of oil being 422 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: burnt or any leak at your holes anywhere. No no 423 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: oil on our roads or driveway. And the week before 424 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: I handed up there, I had an oil change done 425 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: as a dealer, so they put oil in it. We 426 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: drove it around. I've now got that extra on it. 427 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: It makes a little bit of a noise. When we 428 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: started up, but it's gone right away, and I'm just curious, 429 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: is there something dangerous I would do or what type 430 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: of checks can I do on an engine that might 431 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: have been running without oil for a couple of thou Yeah, 432 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: the problem here, Jimmy, is the horse has been let 433 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: out of the barn and she's run wild already, so 434 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: you know, it's hard to rein it back in. Is 435 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: this the fourth cylinder or the sixth cylinder? It's the four, Okay. 436 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: The fourth cylinder does not have the consumption issues that 437 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,199 Speaker 1: the V six has had, So let's let's put on 438 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: that particular model. Um, so let's be right up front 439 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: with that. I think that, yeah, it's possible they didn't 440 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: put any oil in it, or enough oil in it. 441 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: I guess the real question isn't That's not to say, listen, 442 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 1: you could have an oil consumption, you've got higher mileage. Um. 443 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 1: You know, the first thing I would want to see 444 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: is you had this other shop change the oil, add 445 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: correct oil. The oil level is good, I would keep 446 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: an eye on it. If the oil level doesn't go 447 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: down over the course of the next two to three months, 448 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: then we've got to make the assumption that the previous 449 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: shop didn't add all the oil to it. Can you 450 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: prove it? No? Not really, I you know, unless you 451 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: go Unless you go back and explain it to them 452 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: and they go, oh, you know, little Freddie did it again. 453 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: You know, maybe there's a new guy in the oil 454 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: change Loup Bay and they're gonna go. I doubt it, 455 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 1: but you'll feel better saying it to somebody. Right. The 456 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: problem is, would there be any benefit in running an 457 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: additive in that for a couple of weeks and then 458 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: changing the oil right away again? Not so we know 459 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: if something's wrong, what are you trying to What are 460 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: you trying to run the editor for? To clean up 461 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: something or to get rid of the noise, well, maybe 462 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: to get rid of the noise if it's something that's 463 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: locked up, or well if there's something locked up as 464 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: a result of running at low on oil at two 465 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: and a thousand miles. I don't think an editive is 466 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: going to fix it. Listen, you could try it. Tell 467 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: me what what editive do you want to put in there? 468 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: And I would I have I know of nothing that's 469 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 1: going to break it free unless you want to just 470 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 1: do like some crank case sludge removal device. You know, 471 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: Berriman has something. I'm sure if you get out to 472 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: the Barriman website Barman Products dot com, they'll have a 473 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 1: sludge remover or a high mileage oil rejuvenator, you know 474 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: that would you know that would work on sludge. But 475 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: this was a lack of oil, So this was we're 476 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: going on the theory here. That was a lack of 477 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 1: oil and a you know, engine damage done kind of 478 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: a problem. So you know, I don't know that. I 479 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: don't know that a sludge remover is going to resolve that. 480 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: My my go ahead, Well, I was thinking of going 481 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: back to that. You were talking about fathers, and I 482 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: remember it on our old A. We used to have 483 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: a Model A with actually tractor treads on the back 484 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: for the snow up here in the up and my 485 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: dad would run mental spirits once in a while to 486 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 1: get it loosened up before you put the oil in it. Right, 487 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 1: But his engine didn't have an uh an engine sound 488 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: a knocking noise, right, and he didn't have an oil 489 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: consumption problem. Now, if you came back to me and said, hey, Ron, 490 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: I think I do have an oil consumption problem. I've 491 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: got sticky rings. That's a different conversation. Let's do let's 492 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: let's do this scientifically, all right. You had the oil 493 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:33,479 Speaker 1: chains at the dealership. How long ago? It was like 494 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: six weeks ago. Okay, so you're gonna keep track of 495 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: the oil level for the next six weeks if the 496 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: oil doesn't Wait, wait, Brian, since since I had a 497 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 1: change in the dealership a week and a half later, 498 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: there was no oil in it and I done it 499 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: a service napader Okay. So so whereas the first dealer 500 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: did it and after two weeks, let's round it off. 501 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: After two weeks, you had no oil in it. And 502 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: now you've driven it six weeks after having another shop 503 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: do it, and you've still got oil in it. Yeah, okay, 504 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: So then we've got to assume that that last shop 505 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: didn't fill it up all the way with oil. So 506 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: there's a conversation just to put it on paper. Not 507 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: that it's gonna give you any I don't think you're 508 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: gonna get anything for it, but it would give you 509 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 1: satisfaction knowing, Hey, I said something, and you know, maybe 510 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 1: you go in there and say, listen, you know what. 511 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: I know you're not gonna do anything for me, but 512 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: I just want to make you aware that maybe one 513 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: of your oil change guys is getting a little sloppy 514 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: and is maybe had a bad day. Maybe, but you 515 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 1: know you can't. That's like a doctor saying, well, I 516 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: missed the heart surgery. I was having a bad night 517 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: the night before. I had a fight with mom, and 518 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: the kids weren't paying attention. You know what, you're doing, 519 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: your job, Do your job. So let's assume bad word 520 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: on family radio that this isn't a lack of oil issue, 521 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: all right, if the noise doesn't go away, I don't 522 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: see we're putting a sludge remover. Is there any sludge 523 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: in the engine. There hasn't been any, right, you know, 524 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 1: I don't see whe're doing a sledgery. Mover is going 525 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 1: to help in oil, additive help, maybe something that's gonna 526 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,479 Speaker 1: thicken the oil. But now we're only hiding the problem 527 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: and it's just going to it's just going to get 528 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: worse over a matter of time. I'd rather see if 529 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: the noise gets worse on its own, and if it 530 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: does make the appropriate repair, I think you're better off 531 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 1: to stay safe, all right, sir, Thanks so much. You're 532 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: very welcome, Jim. I appreciate the call zero run any 533 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: of the car doctor coming back right after this. Welcome back, 534 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: any of the car doctor. Here. We've solved Tom's microphone problem. 535 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: We're up and running and away we go. Try it now, Tom, 536 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,239 Speaker 1: did we just do an eight as calibration on our 537 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: audio conc Well, basically, you know, and it's funny, right 538 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: you you talk about it like that, But Tom's pot 539 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: my on the on the on the on the control 540 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: board here at at Studio one was a just a tick, 541 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: I mean, less than half of the thickness of the 542 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: hair on your head, and it was causing his pot 543 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: control you know, eight miles north of me, to vary 544 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: and shut itself up because so higher the normal signal 545 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: on the homeboard. Something like that, Right Tom, That's that's 546 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: sort of the explanation. Yeah, it's it's it's saught up 547 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: off off of home base and um decided to just 548 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: keep bringing it back down whenever we try to do something. 549 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: But but the a DOS comment is precisely right, because 550 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: advanced driver assist if you are trying to calibrate there, 551 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: it's you know, less than the thickness of a hair. 552 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: They talk about the thickness of the paint on the 553 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: bumper if it's not painted properly on an a DOS 554 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: equipped vehicle will upset and effect calibration and cause all 555 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: sorts of issues. So we're definitely headed for some fun 556 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: times in the coming years. I can't wait. I can't wait. 557 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: I can do this though. Let's go over Stephen Illinois 558 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: and talk about it. No one, suburban, I can't I 559 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: can't wait to do this either, Steve, Welcome to the 560 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: car doctor, sir, How can I help? Hey? Yeah, thanks, 561 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: thanks for taking a call. Oh suburban? Uh starts up fine, 562 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: and then you run it for a while and turn off, 563 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: run into the store. It's been warmed up, come back out, 564 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: kind of started up. Just cranks and cranks and cranks. 565 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,239 Speaker 1: We'll ever fire off. Then you back it off and 566 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: try it again, and second or third attempt it does 567 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: start right out without a problem. I can't figure out 568 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: why I have to being warmed up a while. It's 569 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: not starting any any diag, any diagnostics done to it yet. No, 570 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: it's it's not throwing any lights or codes or anything. 571 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: Anybody anybody change any part yet? No? Okay, first place 572 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: I want to go as I want to look at 573 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: fuel pressure. All right, I just flatt and simple. You know, 574 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: what's what's fuel pressure cold? What's fuel pressure hot? When 575 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: you shut it off hot? Can you duplicate it in 576 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: the bay if if you were to look at it, 577 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: or a mechanic we're to look at it. If you 578 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: ran the vehicle and got it hot, you know, drove 579 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: it for a half hour, brought it home, or brought 580 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: it into the shop and let it set there an 581 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: idle and shut it off, and you know, five minutes 582 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: later try to restart it. Would you be able to 583 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: duplicate the condition? Probably, it's pretty It does a pretty consistem, Okay, perfect, 584 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's a broken vehicle and a mechanic 585 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: whereth the salt has got to be able to fix that, 586 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: So you know it's but I want to look at 587 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: fuel pressure. I want to look does it have proper 588 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: fuel pressure and does it have residual fuel pressure? Does 589 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: it hold pressure in the line to avoid that extended 590 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: crank period when you come back to start it up 591 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: as some vehicles need to have. So if fuel pressure 592 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: is good and I mean checks out thoroughly completely, volume 593 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: test pressure test fuel pressure, cleanliness and I always look 594 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: at cleanliness when I'm doing a fuel pressure test because 595 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: it takes me two seconds to do, you know, just 596 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: to take a sample, because you know, I'm sure it's not. 597 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: But you know what you've you've heard me say it before, 598 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: and you know the term that you know sometimes diagnosing 599 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: is tell me what's good, and I'll tell you what's bad. 600 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: So let's alienate fuel. Let's look at fuel from all 601 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: possible sides. After that, I'm gonna look at fuel trim. 602 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: Is fuel trim excessive? Where's the mass airflow sensor? Could 603 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: I possibly have a sensor approaching out of calibration causing 604 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: a hard start? Hot? Did this vehicle sit for any 605 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: length of time any sort of time frame in the 606 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: last year. Um, you know, we don't put tons of 607 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: miles on it, but it's used on a relative Okay, 608 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: couldn't have a spider web inside the mass airflow sensor? 609 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: You know, you start to think about crazy things like that, right, 610 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: But before we go there, let's check fuel pressure. It's quick, 611 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: it's easy, it's simple. High mileage on this card to Steve, 612 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: and it's only got about okay. Sometimes that's even worse 613 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: than eighty five thousand mile vehicle. That's twenty one years old. 614 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: The veins on the fuel pump get tried out, and 615 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: then when you use it and run it and get 616 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: it hot, they don't pump. Well, it's kind of like 617 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: a worn out some pump in your basement when you're 618 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: trying to move water. So let's um, let's let's start 619 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: the war there. Let's take a look at fuel pressure 620 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: and then call me back. We can talk further and 621 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: we'll get you to it. We can fix that car. Absolutely, 622 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: it's broken. There's no reason we can't fix it. Eight zero. 623 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: Run any of the car doctor coming back right after this, 624 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: welcome back, run any of the card doctor. Just the reminder. 625 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: Next hour we're giving away a twenty five O'Riley Oto 626 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: Parts gift card for Dat in honor of Dad, for 627 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: Father's Day and uh to help celebrate Dad and all 628 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: that the dads do. So if you've got a great 629 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: Father's Day story, you just would like to take a 630 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: shot at it, give us a call next hour zero 631 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: zero and tell Tom your story. And if you plead 632 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: on him a little bit and maybe cry on his shoulder, 633 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: he might he might consider it. So, um, you know, 634 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: just for Father's Day. Happy Father's Day, to all the 635 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: fathers out there. You know, Father's Day is, um, it's 636 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: what did might to do this year? Um? One of 637 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 1: my kids gave me a short story option where I'm 638 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: going to be filling out for the next year. They're 639 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: gonna ask me questions and I'm gonna be filling it 640 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: out and telling them, you know, tales of woe and 641 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: tales from the hood of growing up and working on cars. 642 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 1: And I have to think of how much I actually 643 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: want to tell them, and you know, some of these 644 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,320 Speaker 1: things have to be classified until after I'm dead fifty 645 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: years but um, you know, it's it's interesting to see 646 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:33,359 Speaker 1: how fathers can influence the kid, right. You know, my 647 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: dad was and I just recently I was going through 648 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 1: family papers and I found the documentation that supports what 649 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: I've heard all these years that my father was a 650 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: My father was a flight instructor and an aviation mechanic. 651 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 1: And I found his security clearance paperwork from LaGuardia Airport 652 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 1: during the war when he worked on Roosevelt's plane when 653 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: it came in. And I always thought some of it 654 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 1: was tall tales. And then again, Uncle Steve was telling 655 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 1: me the story, so you just knew they had to 656 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: be tall tales, but it turns out they weren't. Right 657 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 1: there real um, you know, there's real security cards and 658 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: Dad's picture and uh, you know, I I and I 659 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: think about that. I thought about that all this week. 660 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: I found them last Sunday, and I've thought about that 661 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,240 Speaker 1: all week because Dad was probably still my guiding force 662 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: for being, you know, becoming a mechanic, and it was 663 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 1: sort of instilled in me in an early age. And 664 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: I always think about his comment about, you know, when 665 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 1: you have a problem, just think your way through, stay calm, 666 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: and you'll figure it out. That's what good mechanics do. 667 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: Dad was right then, Dad's right now. But Dad's also 668 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: got to hear good mechanics aren't expensive. They're priceless. See 669 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 1: you