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Speaker 1: It's Monday. What do you think I'm taking it off?

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Speaker 1: I only take Super Bowl week off. I'll get to

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Speaker 1: that in a second. Joe Buck is a contemporary, but

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, he's the voice of my generation. He's humbling,

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Speaker 1: will admit it, but as I've said the Troy Aikman recently,

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Speaker 1: he's the only guy go into a room with. I

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Speaker 1: get a little nervous. I want to be very respectful

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Speaker 1: to Joe. I listen to his dad growing up. Joe

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Speaker 1: doesn't know this, but years ago, I was a out

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Speaker 1: I would get all the media guides from minor league teams,

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Speaker 1: and there was this one kid named Joe Buck. Because

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Speaker 1: I got a job out of college doing one inning

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Speaker 1: of play by play in Vegas, and you were in

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Speaker 1: I think Louisville, and I'm like, oh, he thinks he's

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Speaker 1: gonna beat me to the bigs. It's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: So I was competing against you. I was twenty one

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Speaker 1: years old of Eastern Washingday University. I want to start

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Speaker 1: with this because I had a recent health scare and

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Speaker 1: they can't quite figure it out. I had a little

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Speaker 1: pulmonary embolism and it was unprovoked, meaning I wasn't pregnant.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't a flying issue. I don't have clots in

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Speaker 1: my family. It wasn't immobility, and I thought to myself,

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Speaker 1: you know, I fly a little bit so earlier this year.

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Speaker 1: I want to read our audience this, Joe. This was

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Speaker 1: your schedule Sunday, Bucks, Packers, Monday's Bills, Chiefs Tuesday, World

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Speaker 1: Series Game one, Wednesday, World Series Game two, Thursday, Giants Eagles,

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Speaker 1: Friday were World Series Game three, Saturday, World Series Game four.

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Speaker 1: Are there times you have to perform at the highest

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Speaker 1: level and you are exhausted? Oh my god. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: have so many things I want to say about the

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Speaker 1: beginning of this podcast. First of all, I've read about that,

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Speaker 1: and that's scary with you, and I'm sure you'll be

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Speaker 1: able to get to the bottom of it eventually, as

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Speaker 1: far as you looking at other media guides, at no

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Speaker 1: to the big leagues. I was somebody's son. I was

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Speaker 1: Jack Buck's son. So I had a leg up or

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Speaker 1: two legs up on everybody else. As I was like

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Speaker 1: the second banana in Louisville behind a guy who I

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Speaker 1: love like a brother, Jim Kelch. You did not have

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Speaker 1: to be as welcoming to me, a guy who worked

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Speaker 1: his way up to Triple A. And there I was

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Speaker 1: being inserted at Triple A and I was nineteen years old,

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Speaker 1: and he and his wife and his little kids kind

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Speaker 1: the family. And I don't feel like I'm a voice

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Speaker 1: of the generation. I feel like I'm blended in behind

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Speaker 1: a couple of guys that I have been doing it

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Speaker 1: the luckiest guy in the world. Have I done games exhausted? Yes,

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Speaker 1: I remember in ninety six, I was twenty seven, And

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Speaker 1: this just shows you how it all started. I was

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Speaker 1: Yankee Stadium and Game one gets rained out and so

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Speaker 1: somebody to life, or at least me to life, like

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Speaker 1: doing a big league event. And if the day ever

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Speaker 1: And I'll say this, we have had that glass of

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Speaker 1: splash of Grandmarnier and grapefruit juice. I went through a

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Speaker 1: of finer tastes, beer somehow became tequila, Grandmarnier and grapefruit juice.

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Speaker 1: You're doing a sporting event, and if you treat it

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Speaker 1: a strong personality. Yeah, a great compliment to Al. But

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Speaker 1: go there. So I'm not a I'm not a hyper

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Speaker 1: ventilating guy that's worried about stuff day to day. That's

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00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 1: why I say that with my phone, it was just

430
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:50,199
Speaker 1: like I got another thing happened or another you know, change,

431
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,719
Speaker 1: and I just it just becomes too much for me.

432
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: So I I'm really good at compartmentalizing and I'm I'm

433
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 1: good at just shoving that out over here and letting

434
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: that live were there. And whoever ends up getting elected,

435
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 1: I'll root for him because at my core, I'm an

436
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 1: American and that's the kind of stuff I learned from

437
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: my dad. Yeah, so my wife about ten years ago said, hey,

438
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: you got to figure out some tech because our kids

439
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 1: are going to get on it and you don't want

440
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,159
Speaker 1: to get blindsided. So I'm on Facebook and I you know,

441
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 1: I Instagram and I monitor my daughter. Blah blah blah.

442
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 1: So your kids are, you know, you're two year olds

443
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 1: or still a few years away from TikTok. But how

444
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 1: techy is Joe Buck? What do you get? Really do

445
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 1: you do? Yeah? I mean, but I have twenty four

446
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 1: and twenty one year old daughters too. I once I

447
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 1: knew that them being pushed out of the nest, that

448
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: they that they were smart and knew, you know, I

449
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: grew up in a small town Saint Louis with a

450
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 1: certainly a locally famous dad, and I knew that eyes

451
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: were on us. I knew that eyes were on us

452
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,160
Speaker 1: when we walked into a restaurant. I knew that eyes

453
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 1: were on me. If I was at a party in

454
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 1: high school. I knew that if I was in a

455
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 1: car full of kids got pulled over for underage possession

456
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: of alcohol, it was going to be my name and

457
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 1: the others behind my name because it was my dad.

458
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 1: And so I grew up that way. And my daughters

459
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,479
Speaker 1: have had to deal with that, and I feel like

460
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: they've been really smart on social media and now that

461
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 1: I don't worry about that anymore with them, and I've

462
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: kind of gotten away from it a little bit. When

463
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: I took Instagram off my phone, it was a really

464
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: nice moment. Now I'm on Instagram, but I have people

465
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: that I pay to put stuff up on Instagram if

466
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,479
Speaker 1: I feel like My wife, Michelle Bisner did a thing

467
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 1: on ESPN on the relationship of Pat and Marty Schottenheimer

468
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 1: that I posted last night because I'm so proud of

469
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 1: it because it just speaks to everything. My grandfather had Alzheimer's.

470
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 1: My grand that's the one that played for the Chicago Bears.

471
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Speaker 1: I don't know if it was dementia brought on, you know,

472
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: CTE before they knew what CTE was, or if he

473
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: just had Alzheimer's and to watch Pat and Marty and

474
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: Pat just watch out for Marty and the love between

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00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 1: those two like that was that was really special. So

476
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 1: I got on and I put that up on Twitter.

477
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 1: But otherwise, the less I'm on that stuff, the less

478
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: I'm even aware of it, that the happier I feel

479
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: like I am. So you're still based in Saint Louis right, Yes,

480
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 1: and you could live anywhere. Yes. And the answer to

481
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 1: your question is, at some point every grain of sand

482
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,360
Speaker 1: will fall out of the top of the hour glass.

483
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: And my wife, Michelle, who's from Denver and then lived

484
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 1: in LA while she worked in NFL Network and transition

485
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 1: to ESPN, is going to want to get out of

486
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: here for at least a chunk of the year because

487
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: I am staring out above my computer screen at like

488
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: parts of Moscow outside my window. It is twenty there's

489
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 1: snow on the ground, it's gray, and there are better

490
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 1: warmer places this time of year. So at some point

491
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: we will find better warmer climates. Do at least be

492
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 1: there in what is this February tenth. Yeah, it's funny.

493
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 1: Everybody always bangs on LA. I get it. It's expensive,

494
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: the taxes are brutal. But I went for an hour

495
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: walk this morning and it was like sunny and I

496
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: get here the beach man. I always say, I'm like,

497
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: people come on the listen. I'm not I'm not a

498
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: tax gypsy. Every place I've lived has taxes. And my

499
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: wife always says it. She says, LA is expensive. So

500
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: it's Filet Mignon, right, so's Mercedes Benz like, there's nice

501
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: stuff costs money. So I always I always defend LA

502
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: and you should and I you know, but we all

503
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: we both have friends that are getting tired of Los

504
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: Angeles these days, and it's a real thing with people

505
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: eving there. But every time for every one of those stories,

506
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: I have another one of these gray days, and I'm like,

507
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: there's that. That's the number one thing that my wife,

508
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: Michelle is just like, if we could just get outside

509
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: with the boys. I mean, if it's just two and

510
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: a half years old, wanting to run around, wanting to

511
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: get fresh air, wanting and it is freezing outside right

512
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: now in the Midwest. So I love it. I love

513
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: the slow life, the quiet life, the easy to get around,

514
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: the you know, there's great restaurants here, great hospitals, great schools,

515
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: and it's easy in and out for me. And there's

516
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: a there's a value for that that that I enjoy.

517
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: But the weather is is a big deal with these kids,

518
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: and um, we're getting pulled for sure. Yeah, no, I

519
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: totally get that. So you don't get a lot of breaks,

520
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: But now is sort of the time. It feels to

521
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: me like you got about forty five days of Joe

522
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: Buck living his b his life with his kids and Michelle.

523
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: So what would what would Joe Buck do for the

524
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: next forty five Well, I feel like we wake up

525
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: at and people have way harder lives than we do,

526
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: certainly than I do. But it is full on now,

527
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: like payback time for being gone as much as I'm

528
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: gone with the aforementioned calendar. So I'm get up in

529
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: the morning and it's like, what can we do to

530
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: get to naptime? And then it's after naptime, what can

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00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: we do to get to that moment when the room's

532
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: quiet and Michelle and I are on the couch watching something,

533
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: splitting a bottle of wine, and so we're there's not

534
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: a whole hell of a lot going on around here,

535
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: and we're in a pandemic. So we have a nanny

536
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: who we love, my sisters here, my mom's here, which

537
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: is those are two big reasons why I'm still here.

538
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: And so we're around the house trying to read, trying

539
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: to read an A Rand book, which I will be

540
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: ninety and one foot in the grave, Lord Willing by

541
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: the time I get halfway through this thing. It's unreal.

542
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: But I'm trying to just slow down, enjoy myself, enjoy

543
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:17,479
Speaker 1: the quiet when there is quiet, and then yeah, you know,

544
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: I got in trouble with you a long time ago

545
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: when I flippantly said, when you said, you know, are

546
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: you watching the West Coast games on MLB Network every night?

547
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: Watching Major League Baseball? And at that time I was

548
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: a young dad with two daughters, and I was like, no,

549
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: I mean we're why. Yeah, I know what's going on.

550
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: I can read, but no, I'm not up all night

551
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,479
Speaker 1: watching West Coast games. I'm raising daughters. My wife and

552
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: I are going to watch the Bachelorette or whatever it is.

553
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: And people freaked out that I'm just not twenty four

554
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: seven baseball, and so I try to get away from

555
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: it for my own sanity. And contrary to everything I've

556
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: said in this podcast to this point, I really don't

557
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: care if somebody has an opinion on me not immersing

558
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: myself in baseball every day. I have to do more

559
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: than that for my own mind's health. Yeah. I always

560
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: say like sports love my life. Yeah, I mean that's

561
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: kind of my worldview on it. So I want to

562
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: ask a couple of intent sports questions. You do these

563
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: pre proud meetings. You do them on probably Friday Saturday,

564
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: where you sit down with a Balochick or a Brady

565
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: before games. When's the last time that you and Troy

566
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: were actually in that meeting and you walked out of

567
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: the meeting both teams and you felt like, Wow, one

568
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: team really has an advantage here, Like you really sensed

569
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: the meeting felt substantially more concrete. You really you had

570
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: had a had a not an epiphany, but a strong

571
00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: feeling about those preprod meetings, of which you've done a thousand. Yeah.

572
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: The one that sticks out to me forever is when

573
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:09,959
Speaker 1: Seattle was playing Denver in that Super Bowl and my

574
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: wife is a former Broncos cheerleader prior to her transition

575
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: into the media side of things, and she is all

576
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos and is Peyton Manning's It was Russell Wilson's

577
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: what second year in the league, and that was a

578
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: legion of boom. And when we talked to first, we

579
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: talked to Seattle. Yeah, we talked to Seattle first, and

580
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: we were going to talk just to Earl Thomas, and

581
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: they said no, they want to do it all together.

582
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: And they all sat in there and camp Chancellor looked

583
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: like he wanted to take my head off. Four days

584
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: before the Super Bowl started and Richard, I mean, think

585
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: about that group and Earl Thomas and everybody else that

586
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: was in there. The room was full, and I've never

587
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: seen a look in the eyes of a group of

588
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: people that were like, there is no chance in hell

589
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: we are gonna lose this game. And I went back

590
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: to the room. My wife was with me at the time,

591
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: and I said, Babe, I got bad news for you.

592
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: Your Broncos have no shot and doing a Super Bowl

593
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: for one hundred million people. And the first friggin snap

594
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: from the center went over the head of Peyton Manning

595
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: and it was on and then you know, it was

596
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 1: a route in the first half, and Troy and I

597
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: are trying to justify it at halftime and like, Okay,

598
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: this is gonna because it's it's intense. You're like, my god,

599
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: nobody's gonna watch this thing, or what are we gonna do?

600
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: We have nothing. The game's terrible, and we're like, Okay,

601
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: it's Peyton Manning, for God's sake. They're gonna come back.

602
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: They're gonna come back. And then they kick off to

603
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: Seattle to open the second half and Percy Harvin runs

604
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: it back for a touchdown and I've like threw my

605
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: pen down that that is the one thing that we

606
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,760
Speaker 1: are all of. Everybody always says, oh, you hate my team,

607
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 1: you suck, you hate the Cardinals. People in Saint Louis

608
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: think I hate the Cardinals because you're not doing it

609
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: from either side's perspective. But all we're ever guilty of

610
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: rooting for is just a good game. I don't care

611
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: who wins. Yeah, I just wanted exciting until the end

612
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: and then may the better team win. And when you're

613
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: doing a game of that magnitude and the thing has

614
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: absolutely no drama, it is really that's when the job

615
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: is hard. All the times you've met now again you're NFC.

616
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: You didn't get Brady a lot. You got a lot

617
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 1: of Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson, of all the great quarterbacks.

618
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: You get who's the most honest, who's the most piercing?

619
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: Who do you feel you get when he talks you

620
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: watch the game and he laid it out for you.

621
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: Three guys, Brett Farvee, Aaron Rodgers, and it's become Tom

622
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: Brady and and you're right we I personally, I don't know.

623
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: I've been in a room with Tom Brady maybe three times,

624
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: four times. I think Dan said the other night he's

625
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: doing is one Tom Brady game. I haven't done ten,

626
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: I bet or if I did. If I've done ten,

627
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: seven of them came in twenty twenty. So because he's

628
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: in the AFC, and I don't know that people totally

629
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: get the idea that Fox has NFC, CBS has had AFC,

630
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: but we just haven't had him a lot. But he

631
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:30,760
Speaker 1: is really, really honest. I think a lot of these guys,

632
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: and they're the three best that I think I've ever

633
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: talked to. But they're all pretty good. I feel like

634
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: they all treat it like therapy. They know what they

635
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: say in there is not going to come back and

636
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: bite him. Because we're smart enough to know what they

637
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: once said and what they don't and what they don't

638
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: once said. They're saying it for a reason, but you

639
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: also can file it away and say, Okay, this is

640
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: why this happened. This is why Farv is not throwing

641
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: to Antonio Freeman today. This is why. But you can't

642
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: come out and say, you know, he doesn't think Freeman's

643
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,720
Speaker 1: running great because he's got a bad hamstring or whatever

644
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: it is. But by the halftime you're like, man, Antonio

645
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: Freeman's got two catches. What's going on? Well, we know,

646
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: but you can't say it. But it's that kind of

647
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 1: trust that you've built up over twenty plus years that

648
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: they know they're not going to be embarrassed by something

649
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: they say in there, and they treat it like they're

650
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: on the couch and they can gripe and they want

651
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: to hear Troy's opinion on what they're dealing with from

652
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 1: either quarterback down the chain to players or quarterback up

653
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: the chain to coordinator and head coach. And it's fascinating

654
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: to listen to. Most of it you can't use, but

655
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: it's definitely helpful. When's the last game you did, and

656
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be significant, but it was just

657
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 1: three and a half hours of fun. Whether it's Moltra Aikman.

658
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:05,240
Speaker 1: You found yourself laughing. It was weird, it didn't make sense.

659
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: It could have been a bit of a hot mess.

660
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: And you did a game and you literally laughed and

661
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: put the headset down and thought, that's why I got

662
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 1: in the business. That was great. We did an extra

663
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: inning game in this last NLCS between Atlanta and the Dodgers.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what game it was. I could dig

665
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: my scorebook out right now, but we were I was

666
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: like off, I was out of my mind, and I

667
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 1: was doing like a wolf Blitzer impersonation, and I kept

668
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 1: going back to wolf Blitzer, who clearly was not in

669
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Speaker 1: the booth when I was doing this voice of wolf Blitzer,

670
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: and it was John brought up something that CNN was

671
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: going to do a story on back in his days

672
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: in Atlanta with the Braves, and I, you know, brought

673
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: up some stupid example of wolf Blitzer and just kept

674
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: going back to it, and we were just giddy. And

675
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: I think it was just you're at the end of

676
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: this run and you're in a neutral site and it

677
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: was extra innings and it was just like I got

678
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: off the head put the headset down. I remember telling

679
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: our producer Pete Matcheska and John. I was like, that

680
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 1: felt like local baseball. That felt like how I started,

681
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: where I would just say whatever came to mind, and

682
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: I'd have friends it would text me words. I bet

683
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: him fifty bucks that I could get the word in

684
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: the broadcast, and they're like, you can't get octopus in

685
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: the broadcast, and I'm trying to think of some way

686
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 1: to get it in. And at that point there was

687
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,479
Speaker 1: so little integrity in what I was doing. I would

688
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: just be like, and so at the end of four,

689
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: it's the Cardinals six, the Pirates five, Octopus. I didn't

690
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: even try to work it in. It was like, said

691
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:51,280
Speaker 1: it give me your fifty bucks. And that's the beauty

692
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: of local baseball, at least back then it was. And

693
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: that game between the Braves and the Dodgers, by the

694
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: end of it, I I felt like, you better just

695
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: stop because you're gonna You're gonna go too far here.

696
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 1: By the way, how about the Dodgers picking up Trevor Bauer.

697
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: It's funny, so you go Bueller to Trevor Bauer to

698
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:17,720
Speaker 1: Kershot David Price. I think one through eight is pretty good. Yeah,

699
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 1: it's one through eight. It's about as substantial a batting

700
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,439
Speaker 1: order as we've had since great Yankee teams. I said

701
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: this on the air of the other day. I said,

702
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: it has a chance if the bullpen is moderate, to

703
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: be the best baseball team we have had. And you're

704
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: an expert on this, but they are stacked. I mean,

705
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: it's incredible right now. And they don't have a ton

706
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: of money committed in the next seven eight years. It's

707
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 1: not like that's why they could pay Bauer forty million

708
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: whatever the number is for year one, and they can

709
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: I mean bets. Yeah, that's that's how they sign Mookie Bets.

710
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 1: They don't have a lot of deals that are like

711
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 1: going to strangle them in the near future. And you know,

712
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: Dave Roberts is one of the great guys in the game.

713
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: I mean, there is just almost it's almost an embarrassment

714
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: of riches there. It's almost too much. And they always

715
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 1: say you can never have too much pitching. But I

716
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 1: would say that of all those guys, at least going

717
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,720
Speaker 1: off this last October, the guy who has the best

718
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: and a bueller I love. But the guy who has

719
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: the best stuff, who's got the most confidence, who I

720
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:36,439
Speaker 1: would say go out there in any role closer set

721
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: up starter game seven, don't is rius. I mean, his

722
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:45,439
Speaker 1: stuff is stunning and more than Bauer, more than any

723
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: of them, so they are I agree with you. I mean,

724
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: we haven't seen a team like this, with this kind

725
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 1: of pitching. It's going to be interesting, interesting to see

726
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: how it plays out. You know, it's Joe. I was

727
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 1: thinking about this. Um, I'm a believer in analytics, but

728
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: what I reference on my show off and is manalytics,

729
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: where it's analytics but without turning alpha males into numbers

730
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: and code that you understand. There are moments that you

731
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: just let man, you're gonna make a decision based on

732
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: I trust this guy, right, and it may not be

733
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 1: analytically great, but I trust the guy. I gotta fly

734
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: with him. I gotta be in a plane with him.

735
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: I gotta be in a locker room. So how about

736
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 1: this part of it? How about this part of it.

737
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: I've been on the plane with him, I've been in

738
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,720
Speaker 1: the locker room with him. I've been in the hotel

739
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: bar with him the night before. I know that he's

740
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: in a horrible disagreement with his significant other. I know

741
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: that he stayed at the bar too late last night,

742
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: not everything fits into an equation. It's absurd. Analytics has

743
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: its place, there is no doubt about it. But if

744
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: you take the ability for a manager to look into

745
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 1: somebody's eyes and deter and if that person is fit

746
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 1: or not to go out there and win that inning

747
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: or that at bat or that game, if that manager

748
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: doesn't have that freedom, I think you've completely missed the

749
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,919
Speaker 1: point of what sports is all about. Whatever the analytics said,

750
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:21,399
Speaker 1: Derek Jeter was defensively a shortstop. If the bases are

751
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 1: loaded in the mid nineties, early two thousand's, ninth inning,

752
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: Game seven, and somebody hits a bullet at one of

753
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: the infielders, who do you think, of the four guys

754
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: standing out there, who do you think is the one

755
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 1: guy saying, God, I hope he hits it to me,

756
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: it's Jeter. I don't care what is analytics, what the

757
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: numbers say, that has range is and that's how it is.

758
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: These pitching changes are being made at two o'clock in

759
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: the afternoon, and then the game unfolds and you're in

760
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: the seventh inning and the guy's mowing people down and

761
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: all of a sudden he's coming out. I mean, that

762
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: stuff drives me crazy because you're taking the human element

763
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 1: out of the game. There's no doubt there's a there's

764
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: a spot for analytics. It's a way to quantify things,

765
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 1: but but quantifying somebody's heart, quantifying somebody's confidence, quantifying somebody's

766
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: amount of rest that day, no matter what the numbers say. Man,

767
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 1: if you're gonna throw all that out just to look

768
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:28,479
Speaker 1: at numbers, good luck. Hey, you have a podcast. It's

769
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,439
Speaker 1: ah if I recall it's Oliver Hudson. You you you talk

770
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: about daddy issues. Yeah, I am at Oh boy, that's

771
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: a listen. I got six kids. I would love to

772
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: give you great advice, but shit, I'm making it up

773
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: every day and I don't even know who we all are.

774
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: My daddy issues are all from kind of the good

775
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: side of it because I idolized my daddy was my

776
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: best friend. I followed him into the business. Oliver's dad

777
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: walked out on Goldie Han and Kate Hudson and Oliver

778
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: when Oliver was six or eight years old, and then

779
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: Kurt Russell him into their lives and he's he's everything

780
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: you think he would be as a person, and to

781
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: Oliver as a dad. Um taught him everything he knows,

782
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: but he's got you know, why did my dad walk out?

783
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: Real daddy issues? And everybody we've talked to, from Barkley

784
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 1: to Veter to Sandler to Spade to you know, that

785
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: kind of a list of people having that through line,

786
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: and and sometimes it's my dad was my best friend,

787
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: and sometimes it's I couldn't stand my dad and here's

788
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 1: why that. That's been the fun part of it for us.

789
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: And since Oliver and I come at it from different perspectives,

790
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: it's been worthwhile. So it's been it's been good. I

791
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: saw your dad mc an event in San Diego, I

792
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 1: fire a caall the Baseball Winter meetings. He was a

793
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: sensational You are equally sensational as a moderator and a host.

794
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 1: Your dad was really he's at the table, he was

795
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: laugh out loud, funny. Yeah, And I imagine he went

796
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: to a lot of those. Oh my god, I mean,

797
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: those are my favorite times. And again I got in

798
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 1: trouble for this one. I wrote my book because I

799
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 1: pointed out how it was just a different time. And

800
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it was better then, I'm not saying

801
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: it was worse then. I'm just saying it was different.

802
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 1: So I remember as a young announcer being with the Cardinals.

803
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: They were the Cardinals have two events that the players,

804
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's in their contract or what,

805
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: but they have to go to these two banquets every year.

806
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: It was called the Knights of the Cauliflower Ear. And

807
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: they had a breakfast and it was eight o'clock in

808
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:42,240
Speaker 1: the morning, and these players are staggering in bleary eyed.

809
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: Team got in from Houston the night before, and my

810
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: dad gets up there and says, harden me, folks, we're

811
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: having a little bit of a rough morning. It's a

812
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: late night last night, late in Houston. Team lost six

813
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 1: to four. As I'm sure most of you know, our

814
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: plane landed at midnight. We were in the arms of

815
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: our loved ones at one thirty in the morning, and

816
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: home with our lives at six and that and like

817
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: the place when nuts And now I think of if

818
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: I said that in twenty twenty one, even though it's

819
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 1: a complete joke and like a checky green thing, you know,

820
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: like take my wife please, like the like we're in

821
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: the borst belt or something. I don't know, it's not

822
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,399
Speaker 1: anything that I would say, so that I mean, that

823
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: was the kind of humor that he would do, especially

824
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: in a closed room. And I saw that stuff with

825
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: no cell phones and know that before all that stuff.

826
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: So if you were there, you had stories for days.

827
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 1: If you weren't there, you weren't seeing like somebody sneaking

828
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: under the table at table nineteen shooting a video of

829
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: Jack Bucks saying something that probably would upset some folks.

830
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: So just a different time. Yeah, I remember it well.

831
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: He had a lot of those sort of stories and lines. Yeah.

832
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: Peter Ubroth was the commissioner. I had just gotten out

833
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: of college and Jack Buck was hired to mc an

834
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 1: event and he was hysterical. I mean it was you know,

835
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 1: it's funny, there's I was not to bore you. When

836
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: I got out of college, I wanted to be a

837
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: Triple A. I want to be a baseball announcer. And

838
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:30,439
Speaker 1: I moved to Las Vegas. I got a job doing

839
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,280
Speaker 1: one inning of play by play for the Las Vegas

840
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 1: Stars and selling ads. And it was a big jump.

841
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: I went, you know, from college a tape to Triple

842
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 1: A and I jumped over a lot of more talented

843
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 1: guys and a lot of the guys that were in

844
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: the pcl are now in the big leagues. They're, you know,

845
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: real competent guys. And I remember one of the things

846
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: a local station had Vince Scully. Katie W. Katie W.

847
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: N Kadon had Vince Scully, So I'd never I'd heard

848
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: Scully bits and pieces, but now I listened to him

849
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: every day and then was so good. He was discouraging. Yeah,

850
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 1: and I remember listening to him thinking, well, that's Shakespeare, right,

851
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: I can't do that. Your dad had a similar ability,

852
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: and I remember it in San Diego. He was so

853
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: comfortable talking. I've never been completely comfortable. I have to

854
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: prep a lot. That's when I think of your dad.

855
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: I almost think of like he just talked and then

856
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,280
Speaker 1: they sat him down in a game and he kept

857
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: talking in the conversation to a degree. I mean, I

858
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: think when he first got to Saint Louis and he

859
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: was working with Harry Carey and Joe Gariziola. I mean,

860
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 1: that was an unbelievable broadcast booth. He did every speaking

861
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: event he could get his hands on in the city,

862
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: and he said he was so nervous. I mean, he

863
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: grew up Holyoak, Massachusetts, and then outside of Cleveland was

864
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 1: a depression ary kid. Shot in World War Two, only

865
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: went to Ohio State because of the Gi Bill. I mean,

866
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: he came from zero and now he's standing in front

867
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: of big crowds in a major league city, and he

868
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,720
Speaker 1: said his knees were shaking and he had to hold

869
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: onto the podium so tightly because he was so he

870
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 1: was shaking, and he didn't want anybody to see it.

871
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: And for a guy to go from that when he

872
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,919
Speaker 1: was in his twenties to or early thirties, however old

873
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: he was, to where he ended, you're right. I mean,

874
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,399
Speaker 1: he was not a guy that would wear you out.

875
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,879
Speaker 1: He was a guy that made you want to hear more.

876
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: But it was just different. So if I grew up

877
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: and Vince Gully was my dad, or I grew up

878
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 1: in LA and I heard Vince Scully every day, my

879
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 1: style would be entirely different. My dad had more of

880
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: kind of a laid back yeah style in the with

881
00:50:56,320 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: velvet gloves, would grab a game by the throat and

882
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: it was his game, and he could weave stories in

883
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 1: that went in and around play by play. I mean,

884
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 1: it's just unbelievable how great of a word smith he is.

885
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,919
Speaker 1: I can't even say was And so I mean, he's

886
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: the best then, to me, is the best to ever

887
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: do it. My dad was just different, and if I

888
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: grew up on the East Coast, it would have been

889
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: different from the other two. So it's almost like, where

890
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: did you grow up? What kind of you know, like

891
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 1: a painter, Who did you study and whose style did

892
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 1: you pick up? And I happened to pick up my

893
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: dad's because hey, I was sitting in the booth watching

894
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 1: him do it with a half a headset on my

895
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 1: ear and it would have been the same though if

896
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 1: if I was just had the radio under my pillow,

897
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: it just did different way of doing a game. Yeah.

898
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: I always think of you and your dad. This similarity

899
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 1: is obvious to me because I'm old enough. I heard

900
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: your dad. I heard him on NFL radio. I got

901
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 1: a lot of your dad and I The similar to

902
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: me similarity to me is you're You're both natural, you

903
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:10,879
Speaker 1: have very the cadence. You're both comfortable, and you also

904
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: are very good in big moments. Both of you can

905
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: go zero to sixty and about a half a second,

906
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: which which is very difficult. You can go from moderate

907
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: to oh my god, this is the end of the earth.

908
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: Your dad could do the same thing. It's weird. I

909
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 1: studied broadcasters. I had every tape of every major League

910
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: baseball guy. Not much of a social life in college.

911
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: But one of the things your dad I think he

912
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: worked with Mike Shannon the tapes I heard, and similarly,

913
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: you are the broadcaster that gets along with everybody your dad.

914
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 1: Perhaps it was a different time, but I do think

915
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 1: there's comfort with you. I feel like Joe Buck is comfortable.

916
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: You make me comfortable. I'm at ease. The game comes

917
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: to you, you don't have to reach out to it.

918
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 1: So that's how I view you, and that's where I

919
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,479
Speaker 1: think you and your dad are very similar. The game

920
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: comes to you and you just take us probably threw it. Yeah,

921
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,240
Speaker 1: I'm just I don't go into a game loaded for bear.

922
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: I go into a game prepared, but I just want

923
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: to see what happens. And I think sometimes that's taken

924
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 1: by some as, oh, this guy's just an asshole, this

925
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 1: guy's a smug guy's lucky as dad was famous, and

926
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:20,359
Speaker 1: and you know, after almost thirty years at Fox, that

927
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: doesn't really make any more sense, but if it ever did.

928
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: But I do look at a game, probably differently than most,

929
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 1: and I am now the old guy doing baseball. I

930
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: never thought I would be that guy, but I do

931
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 1: yearn for the game I grew up on, and that's

932
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: not what we see now. And I hear other broadcasters

933
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 1: talking a lot about whether it's war or launch angle

934
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 1: or spin rate or whatever, and I'm not I'm not

935
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: yet convinced that that's what a general audience wants in

936
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 1: October on a national broadcast. If you want, they don't. Yeah,

937
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: if you want that, you can find that, and so

938
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 1: let those people go find that. And I'm not saying

939
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: that there's no value in it. It's a way to

940
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: quantify who's good who's not in in some realms. But

941
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: I just try to keep it as simple and as

942
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: free as I can. And then, as you say, when

943
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 1: the big moment happens, you have to vocally get to

944
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 1: the big moment so the people sit up a little

945
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 1: bit and know that it's in some cases that this

946
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: is the game's on the line right here, the game's

947
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 1: not probably going to be on the line and the

948
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: top of the second inning, and you can't go in

949
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:39,800
Speaker 1: and have the same acceleration every time you start talking.

950
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 1: You have to change it up, and that's that's the

951
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 1: best thing I get out of listening to my old stuff.

952
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: It's like I'm working too hard here, or I'm not

953
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: working hard enough. I need you need to find a

954
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:55,879
Speaker 1: balance where it's exciting but there's still something left. It's

955
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: like Verlander in the eighth inning still can hit ninety

956
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: seven when he's been coasting at ninety five. You have

957
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: to have something in reserve, or when the game matters

958
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: the most or the games on the line, you got nothing.

959
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: What hey, man, it's great talking to you. It's great

960
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 1: talking to you. I I you know, I always whether

961
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,919
Speaker 1: we're at a super Bowl, a World Series or after

962
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 1: a World Series. I mean, I love your takes on things,

963
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: and I'm a fan of what you do. And so

964
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,359
Speaker 1: thanks for having me on. All right, buddy, go enjoy

965
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: your fan I will. I have had two very short

966
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: people walking around outside my office over the last whatever

967
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: it's been, and uh yeah, they're ready to start piling

968
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: on dad. Folks, thanks for listening at The Volume Sports.

969
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 1: Check us out on Twitter, subscribe, review, line up, do

970
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,279
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971
00:55:51,280 --> 00:56:24,120
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