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Speaker 2: Third hour of the show. Okay, we want to talk
Speaker 2: a little Lebron and something Lebron said yesterday post practice.
Speaker 2: Our guy, Jake the Snake Plumber is going to join
Speaker 2: us Arizona State's can play tomorrow. Last time I think
Speaker 2: most of you thought about Arizona State football was when
Speaker 2: Jake the Snake was the quarterback in the Rose Bowl
Speaker 2: for Arizona State. We also need to talk about last
Speaker 2: night's Lions Niners game. Rock Perdy Injures' elbow and of
Speaker 2: course the Lions win, but did they need to play
Speaker 2: all their guys. Was that the smart decision? It was
Speaker 2: like kind of uh, classic Dan Campbell, but classic Dan
Speaker 2: Campbell seems they have gotten them beat at times, So
Speaker 2: we got to get into that. Plus college ball playoff.
Speaker 2: We mentioned Jake the Snake like I want to get
Speaker 2: into Lebron in the second, Dan, But I was thinking
Speaker 2: of this last week with the blowouts in the College
Speaker 2: wall Playoff, and like, look, I understand the seating the teams.
Speaker 2: Come on Man, Indiana and SMU. What are we doing?
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just and Boise State is a three seed?
Speaker 2: Like what are we actually doing? These are none of
Speaker 2: these things make actual sense. No one who has any
Speaker 2: sort of thought and reasonable knowledge of college football thought
Speaker 2: those were the best teams and in that in that order.
Speaker 2: They just didn't. Okay, just didn't. Like even the most
Speaker 2: ardent Boise State fan like, do you really think you're
Speaker 2: the third best team in the country? Like, no, you
Speaker 2: know you're not picking them to win the national title.
Speaker 2: They're not the third best team in the country. So
Speaker 2: what are we doing? Regardless of it, we have later
Speaker 2: whole lives for a college football playoff, right, Dan? I mean,
Speaker 2: like we I'm not saying that we can't complain a little,
Speaker 2: but we have to have the perspective of eventually this
Speaker 2: will settle, it'll work it out, it'll be a little
Speaker 2: bit more ech. It's probably too equitable here, too fair
Speaker 2: this year. It's probably the biggest problem, but it's at
Speaker 2: least better than what we had.
Speaker 3: I think, yes, I agree, And I would also say
Speaker 3: I found it surprising and almost laughable when I have
Speaker 3: heard comments over the last week or two of how
Speaker 3: the Bowls season just isn't as good anymore. And Doug,
Speaker 3: you know this. I've worked with you for almost eight years.
Speaker 3: I was one of the last hanger ons two of
Speaker 3: the Rose Bowl, and there have been there are others
Speaker 3: like me, but it is there's no more. There's no
Speaker 3: more Pac twelve to pit against the Big ten anymore.
Speaker 3: So it's completely over. But you told me once, hey,
Speaker 3: that Rose Bull has been over for a decade. Like
Speaker 3: it's it's not the same as we knew it. That's fair.
Speaker 3: I had that nostalgia to it. But these other games, yeah,
Speaker 3: they don't mean matter. But guess what we have. We'll
Speaker 3: have eleven games that actually really do matter as opposed
Speaker 3: to the three that we've basically had over the last decade,
Speaker 3: and then prior to that, maybe just the one because
Speaker 3: the other ones. Yeah, maybe it was need to be
Speaker 3: the Rose Bull CHAMPI but it was the national championship
Speaker 3: game that meant the most. This is eleven games in
Speaker 3: December and January that we care about in college football,
Speaker 3: and I don't think that we've had that before.
Speaker 2: That that honestly, that's absolutely fair. I the the bowl
Speaker 2: season I miss is the believer. I didn't like how
Speaker 2: we decided a national championship, Like I think had they
Speaker 2: done the plus one way back when, like that would
Speaker 2: have been incredible, just the old bowl season and then
Speaker 2: just like hey, let's pick the two best teams and
Speaker 2: they play, you know, in the plus in a plus
Speaker 2: one game, that would have been incredible because it would
Speaker 2: have kept all the same bowl ties together and made
Speaker 2: all those games matter. And now these are the only
Speaker 2: games that matter. So I do actually miss the old, old,
Speaker 2: old old bowl season, right, I'm talking pre BCS. You
Speaker 2: know when you had you'd have the Orange Bowl. Remember
Speaker 2: they had the Orange Bowl parade? Like what was that?
Speaker 2: That was? Like the originele was like, hey, we have
Speaker 2: a parade too, Like just let the Rose bull do
Speaker 2: their thing. They've been doing it for one hundred years.
Speaker 2: But and and look, if we're honest, no one has
Speaker 2: lucked out more than the Rose Bowl this year. And
Speaker 2: talk about the luckiest of all lucky because of where
Speaker 2: it falls on the calendar. They have it on January first,
Speaker 2: and because of happenstance, you know, you have Big ten
Speaker 2: versus Pac ten like it just they just luck out
Speaker 2: into it and you have Honestly, the premiere game is
Speaker 2: at the Rose Bowl. So it's kind of crazy how
Speaker 2: I declared the Rose Bowl dead and it is dead,
Speaker 2: it has been dead, but it's kind of of it's
Speaker 2: slightly alive. You know, it's mostly dead to steal from
Speaker 2: the Prince's bride, which means slightly alive. I'm not sure
Speaker 2: if they were blaving or bluffing or what they were
Speaker 2: actually Well.
Speaker 3: This it's also because it's Oregon, because it's Ohio State.
Speaker 3: It would have been different if it was Michigan Ohio State,
Speaker 3: or Michigan against Penn State or Ohio State against Wisconsin,
Speaker 3: like it would have been. That is like a big
Speaker 3: true Big ten versus Big ten. But like even though
Speaker 3: Oregon is in the Big Ten, we still can think
Speaker 3: of them as old PAC twelve PAC ten, and so
Speaker 3: it also kind of fits that narrative, even though they're
Speaker 3: conference rivals and have already played this year.
Speaker 2: Let's let's get to let's get to what Lebron James said.
Speaker 2: So the Lakers make a trade two days ago. In
Speaker 2: all the days when you get holidays in the middle
Speaker 2: of a week like last week and then this week
Speaker 2: like today's Tuesday, I only know that because there's Monday
Speaker 2: night football last night. It's literally the only reason I
Speaker 2: know today was what.
Speaker 3: Was today on your infamous December calendar?
Speaker 2: Do we know another for day? That's that's that's what
Speaker 2: it is. Oh man, one of those tweets are you like, hey,
Speaker 2: what's funny at the time? And uh and people wanted
Speaker 2: to go like, oh god, like not working in December.
Speaker 4: But the good thing is that internet forgets quick.
Speaker 2: They yeah, nobody, nobody is you're not allowed to have
Speaker 2: a sense of humor.
Speaker 5: Uh so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, but yeah, Lebron talked about how long he
Speaker 2: wants to play or how long he can play.
Speaker 1: What will it be that that how was you tonight?
Speaker 6: It won't be because I can't play the Dame at
Speaker 6: a high level. Because to be honest, if I really
Speaker 6: wanted to have probably played a game at a high
Speaker 6: level about another four.
Speaker 3: Weird that I might say, how about another five or
Speaker 3: seven years? About one foot?
Speaker 6: But I'm not gonna do that.
Speaker 7: Here.
Speaker 6: You to walk away and with it?
Speaker 5: Of course I know?
Speaker 6: Ye what yeah, I mean Jordan did it?
Speaker 3: Oh I come back?
Speaker 5: Oh no, no, no I'm not. But I will missed the
Speaker 5: hell out for sure.
Speaker 6: But no, I won't walk away way to come back.
Speaker 2: He also said he thinks he's the greatest player of
Speaker 2: all time. Right, Uh, he could play this game for
Speaker 2: other five to seven years at a high level. Dan,
Speaker 2: what's your takeaway?
Speaker 3: It's funny because yesterday is a historic day in sports.
Speaker 3: It's one of those unique days on your calendar. It's
Speaker 3: your destroy your body with food and alcohol. Yesterday was,
Speaker 3: But it was also the day that Lebron James turned forty,
Speaker 3: which is why he was asked those questions. And it's
Speaker 3: also Tiger Wood's birthday was yesterday, he turned four nine.
Speaker 3: And I feel that there is such a comparison between
Speaker 3: the two is they're linked not only for their birthdays
Speaker 3: but because of their greatness. And what's trying to be
Speaker 3: the longevity of Tiger despite a litany of injuries and issues,
Speaker 3: something that Lebron hasn't faced. And what's interesting there is
Speaker 3: he says, yeah, I could play another five or seven seasons,
Speaker 3: but he's saying that he won't step away because it's
Speaker 3: not because he can't place. He's telling you that he
Speaker 3: can play, but he's not playing Doug right now as
Speaker 3: a championship contender player. And I think that there's a
Speaker 3: huge difference in that. And because right now, if maybe
Speaker 3: the Lakers are, maybe the Lakers aren't, I don't think
Speaker 3: that they are right now in my eyes as a
Speaker 3: championship contender. Some may differ, but anything that Lebron does
Speaker 3: continuing later on in life feels like it's stat padding
Speaker 3: if he would want to. There's also just the fact of, hey,
Speaker 3: I could do this, but I'm just gonna step away
Speaker 3: just so you know. I could PlayN till I'm forty five.
Speaker 3: Tom Brady, whose birthday, by the way, was not yesterday,
Speaker 3: It's in August, I believe. But Tom Brady played up
Speaker 3: until he couldn't do it anymore. Didn't stop because hey,
Speaker 3: I'm not winning champions or that Tom Brady was always
Speaker 3: playing for championships, is my point, And that's just what
Speaker 3: I wonder with Lebron, and I feel that there's such
Speaker 3: an interesting comparison when you consider that he and Tiger
Speaker 3: share birthdays, that that's all that Tiger is doing. Tiger's
Speaker 3: only trying to play championships. In fact, he's only trying
Speaker 3: to win championships. And while an NBA championship and golf
Speaker 3: are different because there's four majors out of the year.
Speaker 3: It's just it's striking to me to hear Lebron want
Speaker 3: to brag about how I could play until my you know,
Speaker 3: mid forties. But yeah, that doesn't mean that you're would
Speaker 3: be a contender for an NBA championship. Almost feel it's
Speaker 3: the exact op deposite of like the motivation that Tiger
Speaker 3: Woods has.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, there's a certain matter of facts
Speaker 2: of which he says it, which it's it is kind
Speaker 2: of hard to argue because he does do amazing things,
Speaker 2: he's not actually playing at that high a level because
Speaker 2: he only plays one end of the court, right, I mean,
Speaker 2: like that just he just does he doesn't. He doesn't,
Speaker 2: He's not. He's a minus defensively, now as opposed to
Speaker 2: he always used to be a plus defensively, and I
Speaker 2: don't think he's fooling anybody in that way. And look
Speaker 2: what he's doing at forty is remarkable, is remarkable. He's
Speaker 2: an unbelievable player. My first thing is when I woke
Speaker 2: up and I saw the I think of myself as
Speaker 2: the greatest players has ever played. Like I honestly think
Speaker 2: that Larry Bird thinks that in the morning, Mike Magic
Speaker 2: Johnson thinks that in the morning. Kobe, like Kobe Bryant
Speaker 2: absolutely thought that every morning when he woke up. Michael Jordan,
Speaker 2: no question, thinks that. I'm not going to hold that
Speaker 2: against Lebron for thinking it when enough people in the
Speaker 2: world say it, you're you're allowed to say it in
Speaker 2: the thinking or whatever. But and the I could play
Speaker 2: for five to seven more years. I also think a
Speaker 2: lot of those guys thought, if my body didn't let
Speaker 2: me down, I could do it. I could do it.
Speaker 2: And his body, though it's let him down some Right now,
Speaker 2: it feels feels pretty good. But again it also always
Speaker 2: comes with the Lebron grain of salt, which is like
Speaker 2: he he just wants to create a narrative and it
Speaker 2: works with people who are Lebron people. It just does.
Speaker 2: And I, you know, I it's the only thing. It's
Speaker 2: the These aren't the doys you're looking for sure. And
Speaker 2: if you if you were a Lebron guy, you woke
Speaker 2: up today and you heard those comments, you're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: he can. And if you're not, you're like, what are
Speaker 2: we doing here? Like, he's not competing for championships in LA.
Speaker 2: They're not closer to winning a championship now than they
Speaker 2: ever were previously, So what is what is a high level?
Speaker 2: And then if you're like, uh where you feel like
Speaker 2: you're kind of in the middle and you don't care,
Speaker 2: You're you're like, energy doesn't go one way or the other.
Speaker 2: You go what he's doing is incredible forty years old,
Speaker 2: thirty five years old, It doesn't matter. He's amazing. Is
Speaker 2: he really championship level? Good?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: But is it way better than ninety percent of you
Speaker 2: think of the NBA or eighty percent of the NBA?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is incredible forty years old. Like I said,
Speaker 2: incredible thirty five years old. That's just a reality to it.
Speaker 2: Can he really do it five to seven years now?
Speaker 2: The body's gonna break down. Is it broken down for
Speaker 2: most of the past his tenure with the Lakers. That's
Speaker 2: kind of the reality to it. It's like here you
Speaker 2: can tell us, hey, I'm playing a high level, but like,
Speaker 2: how many years do we have to go through where
Speaker 2: you get hurt, it gets worse, doesn't get better with age.
Speaker 2: So I just think this is narrative building and it's
Speaker 2: classical classic Lebron.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I don't want to take anything away from him.
Speaker 3: I think that's fair to your you know, to your point,
Speaker 3: there aren't other NBA players that are that are doing
Speaker 3: this or doing this at the age of so the
Speaker 3: fact that he is doing this, I maybe should show
Speaker 3: a little bit more appreciation for it. But it's just
Speaker 3: the fact of when you have these birthdays coincide, and
Speaker 3: when Tiger Woods goes and tease it up and he
Speaker 3: makes the cut but finishes tied for fifty first in
Speaker 3: a major, where like a geez, you know, like and
Speaker 3: there are some people that don't think that Tiger will
Speaker 3: ever win another major, me like the rose Ball. I'm
Speaker 3: still holding out hope for one more, although it's very
Speaker 3: likely twenty nineteen and the Masters will be his Jack
Speaker 3: Nicholas of eighty six. But if Phil Micholson one one
Speaker 3: at fifty, maybe there's some magic Tiger can can get through.
Speaker 3: But Tiger's setting up his whole schedule so he can
Speaker 3: play in those majors and compete in those majors, not
Speaker 3: just to make the cut, but try to win. And
Speaker 3: I just feel like it's such an interesting and different
Speaker 3: sort of look when you have the two guys just
Speaker 3: on what a special date December thirtieth is. And Mike
Speaker 3: Carmon pointed out to me last night, Sandy Kofax born
Speaker 3: on December thirtieth as well, So talk about a greatness.
Speaker 2: It's a pretty good day. I'm born the same day
Speaker 2: as Matt Holliday and Martin Luther King, So I mean again, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't think I measure up to those guys, but
Speaker 2: those of January fifteenth is a pretty solid day.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I Look. The thing about Lebron that I respect is
Speaker 2: no human being has ever taken care of their body
Speaker 2: better than Lebron. Are the other guys that have been
Speaker 2: fanatics about it, like, he's clearly taking care of his
Speaker 2: body to where he is. He is dedicated to his craft,
Speaker 2: He's playing a super high level. The one disingenuous part
Speaker 2: I've never liked, and he's done it for a long
Speaker 2: time is instead of dialing back the minutes, you know
Speaker 2: where it's like, hey, you could play more nights, more
Speaker 2: people could see you play, he does the not play,
Speaker 2: which I believe you only do that because you're trying
Speaker 2: to save your average, trying to save your average, Whereas
Speaker 2: if you only play twenty in a night, you're unna
Speaker 2: scored ten, twelve points whatever, and you know you could
Speaker 2: play more often that way and play eighty two that way.
Speaker 2: You know, he didn't play. He didn't play in the
Speaker 2: twenty eighth when they when they beat Sacramento, you know
Speaker 2: he went. He kind of disappeared for a couple of days.
Speaker 2: And again I don't mind. You're forty years old, you
Speaker 2: play a long time, you want to take nights off,
Speaker 2: like if that's the deal you have with your team,
Speaker 2: with your organization. But I think the logic behind it
Speaker 2: is some of its rest but a lot of it
Speaker 2: is instead of playing less minutes more often, which is
Speaker 2: something you could do, instead, they're doing don't play in
Speaker 2: certain games. And that's pretty clearly since he already has
Speaker 2: the all time scoring mark. This keeps his average higher.
Speaker 2: That makes sense to people. So Doug got the Dan
Speaker 2: byer in for Dan. The dan Nettes they said, wait
Speaker 2: a minute, they said, what okay. So what we've been
Speaker 2: doing all show long is cataloging some of the great
Speaker 2: soundbites from the year, which what month is this from Jay.
Speaker 4: Stew Thank you, Doug. I'll take it from here. There
Speaker 4: were a lot of winners at the Olympic Games, and
Speaker 4: Dan is going to present a lot of those winners
Speaker 4: in the game show at the end of the show.
Speaker 4: I think a guy ran really fasted track. I think
Speaker 4: Simone Biles won a gold medal if I'm not mistaken
Speaker 4: Steph Curry. Those were moments, But I think the person
Speaker 4: that really won the Olympics was ray Gun, the breakdancer
Speaker 4: out of Australia. It became an amazing meme fest. She
Speaker 4: takes her skill in craft very seriously. Nobody else does
Speaker 4: and she never quite figured out why everyone was laughing
Speaker 4: at her. And she took to social media shortly after
Speaker 4: the games.
Speaker 8: It was really sad how much height that it did
Speaker 8: of arc and a lot of the responses though, is
Speaker 8: also just due to people not being very familiar with
Speaker 8: breaking and the diversity of approaches in breaking, and it
Speaker 8: was so fantastic that the next day the judging chair
Speaker 8: MG came out and explained that, you know, in the
Speaker 8: breaking community, what I did actually wasn't very shocking, but
Speaker 8: of course there's been a portion of very angry and
Speaker 8: you know, awful responses. The energy and vitriol that people
Speaker 8: had was pretty alarming.
Speaker 2: Wait, wait, she's She basically said, you guys don't know,
Speaker 2: that's next level stuff. That's next level. You don't even
Speaker 2: even know, you don't know what you're looking at.
Speaker 3: And if you don't believe me, the judge even came
Speaker 3: out and said, so so in your face, oh.
Speaker 2: My gosh, she's Alzheimer. Alzheimer again. It's it's a little
Speaker 2: bit like the Lebron thing, Like Lebron is actually incredibly accomplished, right,
Speaker 2: Has Has Has can make an argument in any argument
Speaker 2: about being the greatest player of all time, So of
Speaker 2: course he thinks that, right, here's somebody who made the
Speaker 2: Olympics in a sport that's not even a sport, right,
Speaker 2: and became kind of the laughingstock of the Olympics. And
Speaker 2: of course in her mind, she's like, yeah, I'm great everybody,
Speaker 2: because that's what everybody tells you, right, everybody tells you're great.
Speaker 2: That's and then behind your back they can crush you.
Speaker 2: That's that's how the world works.
Speaker 4: And she never she never leaned into it, like literally,
Speaker 4: she could have marketed it.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, how good would that have been?
Speaker 4: Right, we had a Super Bowl commercial? What was William
Speaker 4: hung from American Idol? He kind of leaned into it
Speaker 4: after a while.
Speaker 2: Deshan Foster, we talked, We talked about it to start
Speaker 2: the show, right, Deshaun Foster coach at UCLA, you know
Speaker 2: where UCLA were in La. Right, they even made a
Speaker 2: T shirt out of it. Lean into it, absolutely, I
Speaker 2: think absolutely.
Speaker 3: There's the first of all she started to talk and
Speaker 3: I'm like, how can you how can you hate in
Speaker 3: Australian And then she said more and more it's not
Speaker 3: that I hate her, but you're like, oh, yeah, this
Speaker 3: is why. But I also loved the videos that came
Speaker 3: out later of the people that she beat, because otherwise
Speaker 3: we would have just thought, man, they really can't break
Speaker 3: dance in Australia, like if she was the best, and
Speaker 3: then we realized it was all rigged.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's totally rigged. What a story it was. It's
Speaker 2: really amazing. And but you're I think that's the marketing
Speaker 2: genius behind you j Su. Right, it's like lean into
Speaker 2: that and instead she played the victim card. Everybody's just
Speaker 2: so mean. Yeah, no, you were bad. No, the judge
Speaker 2: said I was good. The judge said it was next level.
Speaker 2: Actually the judge said it wasn't surprising, which is like,
Speaker 2: what does that even mean? It wasn't that surprising that
Speaker 2: you stunk? I don't. That is a great piece of
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Speaker 2: we quin geek out a little bit here because Jake
Speaker 2: Plumber is a little bit older than we are, Okay,
Speaker 2: but like kind of same realm, just about same era, right,
Speaker 2: ninety six Rose Bowl, like he was nice. Six season yeah,
Speaker 2: n six season ninety seven rolls. But my bad, you're correct.
Speaker 2: I think there's a bunch of reasons he's memorable. But
Speaker 2: the nickname definitely helps, doesn't it.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it works. There's the whole thing. The wrist
Speaker 3: bands as well, like you were the wristbands I think
Speaker 3: you wore when it was a kid, these red, white
Speaker 3: and blue ones. Yeah, there was just there was something. Yeah,
Speaker 3: there's just something about him. And they won and he
Speaker 3: was really freaking good.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, really really really really good Jake the
Speaker 2: Snake Plumber. That was pretty awesome.
Speaker 3: And and also, let's let's be honest, because there was
Speaker 3: a there was a Rose Bull appearance for Arizona State
Speaker 3: in the in the eighties, I believe against Michigan State
Speaker 3: and John Cooper was the head coach, and then Cooper
Speaker 3: was the head coach at Ohio State when they ended
Speaker 3: up playing in the game that Plumber played in. But
Speaker 3: it's not like it was a UCLA USC. I mean
Speaker 3: Arizona State was you know, you didn't think of Arizona
Speaker 3: State in the Pac ten at that time. And Washington
Speaker 3: was good in the early nineties, you know, they were
Speaker 3: winning national championships and having strong teams, and then here
Speaker 3: comes Arizona State, and yeah, it was quite a story.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 3: It was quite a year because he had Ohio State,
Speaker 3: Florida and Florida State also competing all for that national
Speaker 3: championship eventually won by Florida, but because Arizona State lost
Speaker 3: that Rose Bowl. But yeah, they were a great story.
Speaker 3: That hold up.
Speaker 2: The other part too, it is he was the quarterback
Speaker 2: of the team I think two years previously that they
Speaker 2: won like three games, right, So it wasn't like, you know,
Speaker 2: it wasn't one of these Arizona State. Arizona State's always
Speaker 2: been that program that you try and figure out, Like man,
Speaker 2: hot they got one hundred thousand students, they played in
Speaker 2: an NFL NFL's stadium, right, and now with so much
Speaker 2: surrounding talent, not just in southern California, but the city
Speaker 2: of City of Phoenix has just expanded beyond all get
Speaker 2: out and now they're you know, now they're back, but
Speaker 2: let's let's welcome in Jake Plummer. He joins us here
Speaker 2: on the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio. Jake,
Speaker 2: You've accomplished a lot of things in your life. But
Speaker 2: the Rose Bull jumps out to people like myself and
Speaker 2: Dan who were all about the same age as your
Speaker 2: most memorable kind of like, this is who this guy is?
Speaker 2: What's that like to have a lifetime of accomplishments, And
Speaker 2: everybody stops you and goes like, hey, man, Rose Bowl
Speaker 2: ninety seven.
Speaker 5: I was there, man, Yeah, it's special. You know, you
Speaker 5: don't think about that when you're in it. You know,
Speaker 5: I didn't really understand the magnitude of the memories we
Speaker 5: were helping form with people and the moment that we
Speaker 5: were in. I went to ASU to try to win
Speaker 5: a national title, as Bruce Snyder was the only coach.
Speaker 7: That said those two words in his recruiting pitch, and
Speaker 7: we feel like you're an integral piece to this team
Speaker 7: that we're building that's going to be able to win
Speaker 7: a national title. And he was the only coach that
Speaker 7: said that in the country.
Speaker 5: So I went there and sure enough, the work we
Speaker 5: put in all of the time we been growing together
Speaker 5: for four years, which is not very common now in
Speaker 5: this landscape to be a QB on a team for
Speaker 5: four years. Even a season we had going three and
Speaker 5: eight my sophomore year, I probably would have transferred if
Speaker 5: I was playing right now, you know, it might have
Speaker 5: gone somewhere else. But we didn't have that opportunity. We
Speaker 5: stuck it out. We had a phenomenal season that ended
Speaker 5: in a chance to win a national title of the
Speaker 5: Rose Bowl. And you know, those memories that we formed
Speaker 5: as a team, the bonds that we created with the
Speaker 5: coaches and the players, and the memories we helped form
Speaker 5: for so many people growing up in the valley and
Speaker 5: even fans of football in general. You know, our team
Speaker 5: was special, and it wasn't just that we made it
Speaker 5: to the Rose Bowl. It's how we got there. And
Speaker 5: me being the quarterback, A large focus is put on me,
Speaker 5: but I was just a piece of the puzzle. We
Speaker 5: had some phenomenal guys on that team, some phenomenal football players.
Speaker 5: Out of that starting twenty two, they were about eighteen
Speaker 5: of us that spent time in the NFL either practice
Speaker 5: squad or in camp for a year or two or
Speaker 5: and many that had long careers, So I was an
Speaker 5: integral part of that. But man, it was my team.
Speaker 5: We had a solid, great team, and I'm always representing
Speaker 5: those guys when I get to come and be around,
Speaker 5: you know, the football team today and tomorrow and whatever
Speaker 5: I'm doing, it's always to represent those guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you are going to represent them as the honorary
Speaker 3: captain for ASU and the Peach Bowl tomorrow. But to
Speaker 3: stay on memory lane, you did play with a lot
Speaker 3: of you mentioned one, Okay, Keith Poole, remember those guys
Speaker 3: on offense, obviously Pat Tillman, the late Pat Tillman, on
Speaker 3: that Rose Bowl team as well. My question to you,
Speaker 3: Jake is when when did you become nationally known Jake
Speaker 3: the Snake Plumber? Was what was it the the UCLA game?
Speaker 3: Was it that season?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 3: When when did all of a sudden you realize, Okay,
Speaker 3: this is maybe much bigger than maybe I thought it was.
Speaker 3: Where was your I don't want to say, what was
Speaker 3: that moment where all of a sudden you felt like
Speaker 3: this was different? But was there a moment like that
Speaker 3: in that ninety six season?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 5: You know, we knew we had a pretty good team,
Speaker 5: and I always remember videos going into the some stores
Speaker 5: and seeing the college football magazines, and like my junior year,
Speaker 5: there was a mention of me and then like my
Speaker 5: senior year there I am and I'm like, whoa wow,
Speaker 5: fact ten you know this and that. And then when
Speaker 5: we beat Nebraska, I think that was really launching point
Speaker 5: for us, as we barely squeaked the win out versus
Speaker 5: you dub at home to open the season. We won
Speaker 5: our next game easily, and then Nebraska came to town
Speaker 5: and they had whooped our ass the year before, you know,
Speaker 5: seventy five to twenty eight. They took it to us
Speaker 5: in Lincoln, and so we had a big chip on
Speaker 5: our shoulder and some revenge to get back, and no
Speaker 5: one really believed that we could win that game so
Speaker 5: much so we felt like there were people in in
Speaker 5: our building with us that didn't quite believe, but the
Speaker 5: players we did. And that was really a pivotal moment
Speaker 5: for that whole program and all the work we put
Speaker 5: forth and the ability to go beat them, not just
Speaker 5: beat them, but nineteen to zero, to shut out a
Speaker 5: team that that caliber that ended up finishing sixth in
Speaker 5: the country that year. You know, that really launched us
Speaker 5: into the conversation and me being the quarterback. That's when
Speaker 5: I became you know, I started getting a lot of
Speaker 5: requests for interviews. You would have to probably talk to
Speaker 5: Mark Brand or Doug Tamero who were in the Sids
Speaker 5: working that to know when it really launched out. As
Speaker 5: far as putting me in the conversation with the Heisman,
Speaker 5: you know, it wasn't Nebraska. There was a little bit
Speaker 5: of talk there, just we got ranked high, but probably
Speaker 5: then you know, the u c L A game going
Speaker 5: down there and you know, catching a pass for a touchdown,
Speaker 5: running one in, throwing one in, and then USC coming
Speaker 5: from behind and triple over time to beat them. You know,
Speaker 5: we just kept stacking wins, and me being the quarterback,
Speaker 5: I got the focus. But I'm you know, I was
Speaker 5: only as good as the guys around me, and we
Speaker 5: had some amazing players on that team, great coaches.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Jake Plumber joining us here on the Dan Patrick
Speaker 2: Show on Fox Sports Radio. Of course, ten years in
Speaker 2: the NFL, drafted by the Arizona Cardinals and as January
Speaker 2: captain for Arizona State in the Peach Bowl. Really kind
Speaker 2: of fascinating. What's happened at ASU with this program in
Speaker 2: terms of the turnaround right where you know, if you
Speaker 2: go back a year ago, it felt like, oh, you
Speaker 2: hire a young coach. They did it kind of on
Speaker 2: the cheap right. They're trying to get out of there
Speaker 2: at some NCAA violations, some other stuff with the previous
Speaker 2: coaching staff. Did you think this was possible in this
Speaker 2: short period of time as an alum, you.
Speaker 5: Know, anything as possible. Did I think that they would
Speaker 5: be in the college football playoffs? No? I didn't put
Speaker 5: much thought into that. Did I hope that they would
Speaker 5: have a competitive team and show me, you know, that
Speaker 5: it mattered and they cared about each other and they
Speaker 5: cared about the game and who they were representing and
Speaker 5: wearing the Sun Devil logo and stepping onto that field. Yes,
Speaker 5: I hope that they would come out and compete and
Speaker 5: give me a reason to turn the TV on and
Speaker 5: watch them, you know. And they've done that.
Speaker 7: They accomplished that, And.
Speaker 5: Kenny has brought a lot of energy. He's one of
Speaker 5: our own and he grew up in tim Fee. Going
Speaker 5: to the games wearing my jersey is the story I'm
Speaker 5: being told, And so this is his dream job and
Speaker 5: he's putting his whole you know, entire energy and being
Speaker 5: into this being successful. So I'm not shocked because he's
Speaker 5: believed this, and he's gotten the players that he's brought
Speaker 5: in to believe this. And then sure enough, as he
Speaker 5: keeps speaking that message and they step up and win
Speaker 5: these games. Low we was. Surely more people in the
Speaker 5: valley are starting to believe this, and that energy is
Speaker 5: much more powerful than in doubt and casting you know
Speaker 5: this team's going to be no good. It's a much
Speaker 5: more positive, more fun, the more enjoyable energy when there's
Speaker 5: beliefs that there's something brewing. And he's just been consistent
Speaker 5: in that message, and the young men have stepped up
Speaker 5: on the field had won at very oppositive, stunistic times.
Speaker 5: Thank goodness for Cu and Don and Trime and all
Speaker 5: that going on, because while that was the cop talk
Speaker 5: of the Big Twelve, ASU is just quietly winning ball game,
Speaker 5: going out and winning. And here they are again getting
Speaker 5: you know, last pick to the last in the Big Twelve.
Speaker 5: They win the Big Twelve. Here they are, you know,
Speaker 5: underdogs to Texas. Hey, that's fine. This team has proven
Speaker 5: and they've gone out and competed, and that's all I'm
Speaker 5: looking for win or lose. This has been a phenomenal year.
Speaker 5: It's been a lot of fun to watch. It's been
Speaker 5: It's been a great run at a very opportunistic time
Speaker 5: with history being made with the first Todge Football Playoff.
Speaker 5: Those pitchforks are on the bracket. They're not going away.
Speaker 5: They're here and I think this team is is gonna
Speaker 5: seize the moment and I'm I'm proud of them. I'm
Speaker 5: excited to be here. I'm not involved with the program
Speaker 5: day in and day out, but I'm always supporting whoever
Speaker 5: they bring in. And when Kenny came in, I was
Speaker 5: I was very excited because I saw somebody who cared
Speaker 5: and he had the energy necessary to put into you
Speaker 5: know what you need to do the work behind it.
Speaker 5: He's putting that in and he's he's bringing guys back,
Speaker 5: he's opened the door for the alumni and he's trying
Speaker 5: to get that tradition back and got what a great
Speaker 5: time to do this. And really, this team's exciting to
Speaker 5: watch as a Sun Devil former Sun Devil. Like I said,
Speaker 5: I'm proud of them. I win or lose. It's been
Speaker 5: a phenomenal year, but I see them going and continue
Speaker 5: to surprise people.
Speaker 3: Do you think that your participation would change, because let's
Speaker 3: not be naive, like, over the next couple of years,
Speaker 3: Kenny Dillingham's name is going to be popping up and
Speaker 3: every sort of vacancy that comes across college football, like,
Speaker 3: do you do you see that changing? Do you see
Speaker 3: your role changing because of nil and other things with
Speaker 3: the university or how will you you know, move forward
Speaker 3: with university in those sort of aspects.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean this is a new era and landscape
Speaker 5: that we're going to all navigate together. You know, players
Speaker 5: are going to move and jump ship and go to
Speaker 5: other teams, and you know, I'm shocked to hear, you know,
Speaker 5: quarterback that starts to go house State transfers when they
Speaker 5: go nine and two, and it's like, wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 5: aren't you trying to build something here? And so who knows?
Speaker 5: The future is something that we all want to try
Speaker 5: to predict and have an understanding of, but you never know.
Speaker 5: I think that Kenny has has landed his dream job
Speaker 5: from what he's told me and what I hear the
Speaker 5: message coming. So I don't feel like he would he
Speaker 5: would leave in the midst of building something that he's
Speaker 5: had in his sight since he was a kid. I
Speaker 5: don't see him leaving. Obviously, things can change. Will the
Speaker 5: fans accept them having a subpar year next year or
Speaker 5: two years down the road as they maybe have to
Speaker 5: rebuild a little bit, or they lose a specific player
Speaker 5: that was very instrumental to this success. I don't know
Speaker 5: how this is going to go, but right now is
Speaker 5: what matters, and the fact that they're here, they're playing
Speaker 5: for a national championship, they're in the conversation, and he
Speaker 5: has come in with the energy and the message, and
Speaker 5: he's brought the right mix of players in through the
Speaker 5: portal to make something happen right now that's going to
Speaker 5: be remembered forever. That's what I care about. We'll cover
Speaker 5: across that bridge when we get there. As far as
Speaker 5: will he be here for a long time, I think
Speaker 5: you will. I feel like Kenny wants to coach here
Speaker 5: for twenty five thirty years, And wouldn't that be awesome?
Speaker 5: Wouldn't that be great to see that happen, to build
Speaker 5: a program and to have a solid figure there that's there,
Speaker 5: and it's coaching, coaching and building something that that that
Speaker 5: that will make so many great memories. I hope that's
Speaker 5: what happens, but well, we'll have to wait and see.
Speaker 2: Find me another camp scattabo from FBS. Find me another
Speaker 2: one of the find me one another those and I'll
Speaker 2: definitely definitely stay around. Jake's man, Yeah, hey, hey man,
Speaker 2: really appreciate you joining us. Uh, excited to see what what?
Speaker 2: And and Doug Tamrell reference always always does well by me,
Speaker 2: Thanks so much for joining me.
Speaker 7: Awesome guys.
Speaker 5: They have a happy New Year and go devils.
Speaker 2: All right, that's forks up for Jake Plumber. Uh, let's
Speaker 2: get let's get another they said, what from twenty twenty four? Wait?
Speaker 2: What's this one there? Case?
Speaker 4: Do I think this sums up what Caleb Williams when
Speaker 4: you got to the NFL and this is the brand
Speaker 4: new punter for the Bears. I think this is from
Speaker 4: Hard Knocks and he tells a story about how Cale
Speaker 4: Williams reached out to him on his first day drafted
Speaker 4: in the fullth round.
Speaker 2: I saw a couple of text messages and I saw
Speaker 2: he said, oh, hey, hey, it's Caleb and he said, oh,
Speaker 2: you're not going to be puny mach.
Speaker 5: I thought, well, that's absolutely fun with me.
Speaker 4: I think he's second in the NFL. And punts. He
Speaker 4: had like ten puns in the first half on Sunday.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, and then there was a different type
Speaker 3: of breakdancing.
Speaker 2: I'll just say this, okay, and I've said this before.
Speaker 2: I was the coach of a team that's that's that's
Speaker 2: struggling with a losing streak. And I'll say it forever.
Speaker 2: Sports will humble humble you, and you you just it's
Speaker 2: it's how you deal with it. It's it. It humbles,
Speaker 2: it humbles you really, really really quickly. That's a That's
Speaker 2: a great one. That's a great one.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 2: Coming up next on the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Speaker 2: Sports Radio. Hey, we'll get back to our year in
Speaker 2: review game. We got stumped once we got to tennis
Speaker 2: and golf. What about the individual awards of the year?
Speaker 2: How many can we name off the top of our heads?
Speaker 2: Find out next.
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Speaker 2: Happy do you t It's Dan Patrick's show Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2: I'm Doug Gottlieb Dan Byer Jason Stewart alongside. So we
Speaker 2: have the Doug Gottlieb Show. It airs daily on Fox
Speaker 2: Sports Radio iHeartRadio app. You can download the podcast as well.
Speaker 2: And what we do we do at the end of
Speaker 2: the first hour is we call it game time and
Speaker 2: Dan creates some game, usually top something topical. In this case,
Speaker 2: we've played the end of year game where Dan And
Speaker 2: for people who don't listen to our show, okay, Dan
Speaker 2: is literally encyclopedia on everything, anything that's ever happened or
Speaker 2: will happen. It's a little freaky, and so he's basically
Speaker 2: quizzing us on answers. I'm sure he knows, and we
Speaker 2: can only know if we look up or if we
Speaker 2: kind of search search for a name. So, so, Dan,
Speaker 2: where were we on this?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we are two thirds of the way through.
Speaker 3: We still need some help from golf. Someone tweeted in
Speaker 3: providing help on the tennis question and it was AOC's
Speaker 3: burner account on Twitter. So nice that AOC was able
Speaker 3: to tweet in. Johannick Sinner was the winner of the
Speaker 3: Australian Open and US Open.
Speaker 2: So thanks, I've actually never heard that name before, mate. Yes,
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm not gonna. I don't know if I
Speaker 2: was off when when that happened. I don't know. I
Speaker 2: had no idea.
Speaker 3: Still looking for the final three majors of the golf season.
Speaker 3: If you wanted to mark those off and the Premier
Speaker 3: League and Champions League, well you guys, says Ander Shaftley.
Speaker 2: At at some point I did, I said Shoffley. I
Speaker 2: said Shoffley one, one or two and Bryson Shambeau one.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, So Shaffley won two. He won the PGA
Speaker 3: Championship and Open Championship. Bryson won the US Open at Pinehurst.
Speaker 4: Manchester United. Did they win Premiere.
Speaker 3: You're warm, but yeah, but you're not, but not not them.
Speaker 4: Did Vega anything?
Speaker 3: Uh no, no, Johnny Vegas, No Liverpool on the Premier League.
Speaker 3: We're also, by the way, looking for the most gold
Speaker 3: gold medals won in the Olympics by a country this
Speaker 3: past year. That's US. It was US, and there was
Speaker 3: another one that is correct, Yes, the United States and
Speaker 3: China side the forty gold medals to the according to
Speaker 3: the medal count that I looked at the NFL MVP.
Speaker 3: We're looking for that answer. We haven't gotten. We haven't
Speaker 3: gone to.
Speaker 2: That last last year's MVP, right, yep.
Speaker 3: Last year's yep. Lamar Jackson Jason said, NBA MVP, who
Speaker 3: was it in twenty twenty four?
Speaker 2: That was well embiid No, No, that was yo kitchen.
Speaker 3: It was the kitchen.
Speaker 4: Yes, so he got what he deserved.
Speaker 2: He should have gotten the year before, and then he
Speaker 2: won a championship and they gave it to him last
Speaker 2: year and they maybe maybe you shouldn't even gotten it
Speaker 2: last year.
Speaker 3: W NBA MVP. That is correct, That is correct, thanks
Speaker 3: to Chris no longer in Saint Pete, even though it's
Speaker 3: Chris in Saint Pete. He gave you NC State for
Speaker 3: the final women's final four team. Yes, that is correct,
Speaker 3: so that is off the board. And Philip Rivers played there?
Speaker 3: What about the American League? That is true? What about
Speaker 3: the American League? Most Valuable Play?
Speaker 4: I got this one and I'm gonna my favorite meme
Speaker 4: that I saw over the weekend, and this is great
Speaker 4: and because that it pertains to today, Aaron Judge has
Speaker 4: a meme that he's not going to miss the dropping
Speaker 4: of the ball tonight. He's not the ball tonight.
Speaker 2: Good n L N L m v P.
Speaker 3: How's good Trophy winner.
Speaker 2: Travis Hunter?
Speaker 3: It was Travis Hunter of Colorado. Yes, just a couple
Speaker 3: of weeks back, and now we get into auto racing.
Speaker 3: So soccer and auto racing your blind.
Speaker 2: Spots, blind spots. I mean it just it just fit
Speaker 2: blind me if I was born blind, because I just.
Speaker 3: NASCAR Cup Series. You guys want to take a guess. Joey,
Speaker 3: that is correct.
Speaker 7: It was.
Speaker 3: On a left field entire cups. You are Jason, that
Speaker 3: is truly. Jason is shocked by his his response.
Speaker 2: So Sidney Crosby would be my answer for anything, right,
Speaker 2: because I remember those guys from They're like the youngest
Speaker 2: guys in the sports. So we'll just kind of go
Speaker 2: with them.
Speaker 3: Daytona five hundred F one in the Indy five hundred,
Speaker 3: So it would be the season long and the F
Speaker 3: one and then who won the Daytona five hundred and
Speaker 3: who won the Indy five hundred. Brothers, No, that did
Speaker 3: not happen.
Speaker 2: I do know. It's Max Verstappen is correct?
Speaker 3: Is all right?
Speaker 2: Red Bull team?
Speaker 3: So the final the final two Daytona five hundred and
Speaker 3: Indy five hundred, and you got to get the Premier
Speaker 3: League and the UEFA Champions League. I'm going to just
Speaker 3: tell you this. You said Man United Manchester City won
Speaker 3: the Premier League.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, last, like the hatfields you named the McCoy's.
Speaker 2: That's what you did.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 3: Real Madrid tom Borish Dortmund to Nill in the Champions
Speaker 3: League finals. So Real Madrid the winner of that, and
Speaker 3: then the checkered flag to end this segment. William Byron
Speaker 3: won the Daytona five hundred, and for the second straight year,
Speaker 3: Joseph Newgarden won the Indianapolis five hundred. He went back
Speaker 3: to back New Garden, New Garden.
Speaker 2: New Garden. Yeah, I have a new Garden coming in
Speaker 2: the spring. Okay, guys, real quick. Boise is an eleven
Speaker 2: point dog tonight fifty four and a half is the total?
Speaker 2: Dan Biro, what do you like?
Speaker 3: I like the under because of Penn State's defense. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna take the under in Boise State.
Speaker 2: I like the exact same thing. What about you there,
Speaker 2: Jayce dou.
Speaker 4: I think the Broncos will run faster than the Lions.
Speaker 4: They'll outrun him.
Speaker 2: Have a happy New Year. You have exactly zero excuses
Speaker 2: zero for drinking and driving tonight. Okay, we all know
Speaker 2: Amateur Hour is around midnight on New Year's Eve. Don't
Speaker 2: be an amateur, uber lyft, or just don't go out. Okay,
Speaker 2: have a happy and safe New Year for Dan Byer,
Speaker 2: Jason Stewart. I'm Doug Gottlieb. This is Fox Sports Radio.