1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: with you. Bill Bean is a world renowned exorcist, spiritual 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: deliverance minister and is known as the Spiritual Warrior. Bill 5 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: has helped literally thousands of people all over America, along 6 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: with many others in fifty four plus countries. Bill's spiritual 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: warfare deliverance ministry addresses anything from curses, blocks, attachments, obsessions, oppressions, 8 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: to possession by demonic spirits. He is also an internationally 9 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: known author. His latest work as Tales from an Exorcist 10 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: Lecturer Supernatural Expert. He is currently appearing in episodes of 11 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: a Haunting Ghost Nation Freight Club, along with an episode 12 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: of The Holtzer Files. He has been featured in the 13 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: Lifetime movie network series I Was Possessed as well. Bill, 14 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the program. We always love having you on. 15 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, George. It's always a pleasure to 16 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: be on with you. How is the Reverend Ben more 17 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: busy than ever? Just unbelievable. It's a sign of the 18 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: times that we're in. There are so many people suffering 19 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: in so many ways, right every day that got to 20 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: work through me to be a blessing to somebody. Absolutely, 21 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,559 Speaker 1: How did this all begin for you? This career, Well, 22 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: it's certainly not the career that I chose or wanted 23 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: to choose. God chose me for this, and it all 24 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: started with my own sufferings, as you know, George, and 25 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: for anybody out there who was not familiar with me 26 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: or my story, my family was destroyed by demonic forces 27 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: and I nearly was as well, and I had a 28 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: hellish childhood, and I had a life that was so 29 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: terrible for so long that I was actually seeking death. 30 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: I wished for death. I didn't want to live anymore. 31 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: And God transform me. Not only did he save me, 32 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: but that transformed my life and took me out of 33 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: that victim being victimized over and over and over again 34 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: in the fear based, trauma based way of thinking and 35 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: living into what I call warrior mode, and has blessed 36 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: me with a life now that I would in trade 37 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 1: with anybody's life on this planet. And I didn't seek 38 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: this type of work, that's for sure. God called me 39 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: into this service, and it wasn't his voice saying William, 40 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,839 Speaker 1: you have to do this. It was a knowing it 41 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: wasn't urging in my spirit, and I ignored it for 42 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: a while, George, because I thought God must have a 43 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: sense of humor. How can someone like me be a 44 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: help to anybody? And so I had that mentality for 45 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 1: a long time until I came to the realization that 46 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: God truly was calling me to do this work. And 47 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: I spent years in studies and preparation as well, and 48 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: I started into this ministry full time I want to 49 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: say twenty thirteen, and I traveled everywhere for six straight 50 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 1: years every part of this country, have helped people in 51 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: fifty four other countries, and it is all by the 52 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: power of God. I'm not think special. I'm just somebody 53 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: that God works through to help people. But as you know, 54 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: you're my friend and you've had me on so many times, 55 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: and I appreciate that this is something that is supernatural 56 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 1: in itself. Because the pace that I was going at 57 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,839 Speaker 1: before COVID hit, it was only a miracle by God 58 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: that I didn't have a heart attack or stroke or 59 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: something really bad happening, because I was waking up in 60 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: hotel rooms not knowing where I was. That's how burned 61 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: out I was getting and look, I love everybody. I 62 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: take the sufferings of others very seriously, and it is 63 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: a non stop journey and NonStop quests for me to 64 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: help as many people as I possibly can by the 65 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: power of God working through me. What is happening now, Bill, 66 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: where people are basically losing it? I'm in Saint Louis 67 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: right now. They've got a record number of thieves breaking 68 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: into stores at two or three o'clock in the morning, 69 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: stealing things. I mean, the crime is rampant these days. 70 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: Cars are being stolen, people are getting afflicted with all 71 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: kinds of demonic things. What's happening, Well, I didn't come 72 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: on your show to preach a sermon, but I came 73 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: here to speak truth. And the truth of the matter 74 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: is that there is a spiritual war taking place. This 75 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: is spiritual George, and so what's happening here? In my opinion, 76 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: I couldn't go into a quarterball improve it, but I 77 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: absolutely believe what I'm saying is that God is allowing 78 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: the devil to have this time on the earth and 79 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: he's wreaking havoc. So it is the spirit of rebellion, 80 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: which comes from Satan and is the spirit of lawlessness, 81 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: which also comes from Satan. No Isaiah twenty says, one 82 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: are those who call evil good and good evil. That's 83 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: exactly what is happening here. So those of us who 84 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 1: stand up for good and right are vilified, and those 85 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: that are doing every horrible, wicked, negative thing that you 86 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: can imagine are glorified. And so the world is upside 87 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: down and backwards, especially in America. Why give the devil 88 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: his due because people want to do what they want 89 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: to do. So this all comes down to free will. 90 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: That's why it devil exists in the first place. He's 91 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 1: the adversary to mankind because of free will. So you 92 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: and I could talk all night long about things that 93 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: we should do and things that we shouldn't do as 94 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: responsible human beings, but there are those out there that 95 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: would thumb their nose at us because they want to 96 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: do what they want to do, and they're going to 97 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 1: do what they're going to do. And furthermore, the law, 98 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: what's left of it, is allowing them to do anything 99 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: and everything. So the script has flipped to where the 100 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: purpose traders now have all the rights and they could 101 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: do anything, but the victims and the people that are 102 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: trying to be good and productive citizens are being victimized. 103 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: And some of these towns are funding the police departments 104 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: at a time we need them more than ever. Yes, 105 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 1: and so this is a sign of the times. I 106 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 1: feel sorry for any I hate to say this, It 107 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: pains me to say it, but I feel sorry for 108 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: any couple that's bringing a child into this world now. 109 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: I mean, in my opinion, is the worst possible time 110 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: that you can bring a child into the world. I mean, 111 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: it's just chaos everywhere, and it is all starting in America, 112 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: from America, because America stirs the pot of the world, 113 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 1: and so we have fakes taking place here that I 114 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: just shake my head. I cannot I'm fifty six years old. 115 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: I cannot believe the things that I am seeing now. 116 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: And you know, in our wildest dreams, you and I both, 117 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: we would never imagine that we're seeing some of these 118 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: things unfolding right before our very eyes, and they're being 119 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: encouraged and applauded. Interesting take Bill, Let's talk about possessions 120 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: for a moment. Are they also at an all time high? Absolutely? 121 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: People are so. As I said to you, it was 122 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: six straight years NonStop on the road. Sometimes taking two 123 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: trips a week all over America. And then when COVID came, 124 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: that put a temporary stop to things. And and COVID 125 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: was not a blessing, but it was sort of a 126 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: blessing in a way for me that I was able 127 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: to re energize and to you know, to refocus. But yes, 128 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: they're at an all time high. And the amount of 129 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: people suffering under demonic attack that's also at an all 130 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: time high. So I try to warn people. You know, 131 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: I do a little show every Friday night now and 132 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: I I try to warn people about these things. Look, 133 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: I'm not perfect. I don't claim to be perfect, but 134 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: I try to do the best that I can do. 135 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: I try to be the best that I can be 136 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: every day, and I try to be a warrior for 137 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: God and a messager for God and a teacher as well. 138 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: So some people listen George, and some people don't. But 139 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: there are just a tremendous I mean, by leaps and bounds, 140 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: the cases have increased, and it's just it's very very sad. 141 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: We're all in spiritual battle on a daily basis. Most 142 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: of us don't realize that. And the only way, in 143 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: my opinion, and that we can combat that and continue 144 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: to move forward in having a good and productive life 145 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: is by invoking the power of God over our lives 146 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: every day. So my job is not only just going 147 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: in by the power of God working through me to 148 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: a vict demonic entities out of people, places, and things. 149 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: My job also is like that counselor life coach type 150 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: of thing that I have to sit down with the 151 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: victim after this takes place, and we have to put 152 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: a game plan together for that person's life in moving forward, 153 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: the things that you want to focus on doing and 154 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: absolutely having a real and authentic relationship with God and 155 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: making him first in your life and invoking his power 156 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: over your life every day, and then you know, staying 157 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: away from certain things that will open those doorways for 158 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: demonic activity to come in. Once they see a little 159 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: crack in the door, they'll kick it in and they're 160 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: in there. And then it's going to require somebody like me, 161 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: by the power of God working through me, to evict 162 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: those demonic forces. How does somebody get possessed in the 163 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: first place, Bill, variety of reasons, and the number one 164 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: not in every case, George, but in a large amount 165 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: of my cases, the number one most common thread is 166 00:09:55,920 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: that the victim has suffered some type of abuse in childhood, 167 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: and whether that is child molestation, horrific beatings, or just 168 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: horrible mental abuse, it's something that created a high level 169 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: of trauma in order for there to be these blood 170 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: to be blood and secretions that come out through the 171 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: pine and adrenal glands that the demons are attracted to. 172 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: They're attracted to it like candy, and some people call 173 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: it adrenochrome. You can call it what you want. But 174 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: when this is established, that's what happens, and the demons 175 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: are not only certainly on the perpetrator of these wicked 176 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: and hainous acts, but then they go on to the 177 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: victims and they will stay there until someone like myself 178 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 1: comes along, by the power of God working through me 179 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: or whoever else, to get rid of that garbage and 180 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 1: to break that out and off and away from people. 181 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: Other ways that they can become possessed is by a summoning, 182 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: and that happened in my family's case, to where two 183 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: family members over one hundred years ago, supposedly, and I 184 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 1: believe it summoned those demonic forces that came in and 185 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: came on the family and stayed on the family and 186 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: created destruction. And you know this is in the way 187 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: of family, blood dying, curses, hexus, vexus, spells, you name it. 188 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: I mean, this is all real, and this happens, and 189 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: it destroys people and other ways. Is through like Weuiji 190 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: boards and things of that nature, any type of summoning 191 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: or acknowledgement in a willing way to make some type 192 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: of contact or communication that would open a dimensional doorway 193 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: in order for these entities to come through. What if 194 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: somebody isn't taking it seriously they think it's ha ha 195 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: fun in games? Is that still dangerous? I saw it 196 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: with my own eyes one time, and this was in 197 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: my own case, and I was a teenager and growing 198 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: up in that house where all those horrible things took place. 199 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: I was physically attacked on a regular basis by demonic 200 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: entities from age five, probably up until age twelve. And 201 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: my mother, who suffered far worse than me, was under 202 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: attack from nineteen seventy five to her untimely death in 203 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty one. But one night I had a bunch 204 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: of these older teenagers and some were maybe in the 205 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: early twenties. They came into the house they didn't believe me, 206 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: and I asked him to come down. My mother was 207 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 1: in the hospital at the time, so no one was 208 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: in the house, and they came down, didn't believe it. 209 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: They were making fun. And one of the kids, I'd 210 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: say he was probably nineteen or twenty, and I wrote 211 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: about him in my first book, Dallas, and Dallas challenged 212 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 1: the entities, and he was provoking and saying all these things, 213 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: and this went on and on and on, and then 214 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Dallas was picked up by his 215 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: throat from an invisible force that slammed him against the wall, 216 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: and his feet had to be at least six inches 217 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: off the floor. And I will never ever forget George 218 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: as long as I live. The look of sheer terror 219 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: and helplessness and panic on his face, the sweat beating 220 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: up on his head and face, and we were all 221 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: physically trying to pull him down and could not get 222 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: him down. And then when the entity let him go, 223 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: everybody turned and bolted out of there. And the last 224 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 1: one out was a friend of mine by the name 225 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: of Bruce, who was no longer with us. But Bruce 226 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: looked back and saw this, the very tall black figure 227 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 1: with a black hood and glowing red eyes, and Bruce 228 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: didn't sleep for about three weeks after that. I didn't 229 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: sleep for a while either. Did they let their guard 230 00:13:55,880 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: down somehow, Well, they didn't believe it, so they didn't 231 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: believe it the start with, so they thought it was 232 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: impossible that you know, that this could really take place. 233 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: So then he's clowning around and provoking you know, these entities, 234 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 1: and that's what happened. And he still tells the story 235 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: to this day. I have made appearances at events in 236 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: Maryland and other places to where Dallas attended and stood 237 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: up and told the people, look, what he's saying is true. 238 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: This really happened to me, and so obviously he'll never 239 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: forget it as well. Absolutely, my gosh. But you had 240 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: mentioned curses, and I talked with Maryanne Winkowski last night 241 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: about curses too. The person who puts the curse on someone, 242 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: are they necessarily evil? Yes? And I would say because 243 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: it's an evil act. So if a person has ill 244 00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: will or bad intent towards another and go ahead and 245 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: you know, place these curses, hexes, vexes, indoor spells on people, 246 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: that's an evil act because you yeah, premeditated to do 247 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: ill will and harm to somebody. And I'll tell you, George, 248 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: I in one case there were Santa Ria curses placed 249 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: on someone and that person actually two cases, and those 250 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: people died. Those people had tragic deaths soon after those 251 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: curses replaced. Can some curses be accidental or you just 252 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: say something like you know, something silly and it happens. Yes, absolutely, 253 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: so we have to be very careful. Look, we all 254 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: do things to offend people. We try not to, but 255 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: during the course of life, we're all going to have 256 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: an effect on someone in some way. We always pray 257 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: that it is a good and positive way. But there 258 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: are times that we might do or say something that 259 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: rubbed somebody the wrong way, and then people do that 260 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: to us as well. So when that happened, it's very 261 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: important to keep our anger in check and try and 262 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: pray about it. It's not so easy to do, but 263 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: we try and pray and ask God to relieve that 264 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: from us and take it from us, and to a 265 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: we pray for that enemy or that person that has 266 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: now become an enemy or whatever it may be, and 267 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: we ask God to cool the anger of that person 268 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: and the bad will and intent from that person and be. 269 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: We certainly don't want to do anything to where we're 270 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: doing or say something that could be. That's you know, 271 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: when people say curse words, He said, curse words. Well, 272 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: some words are curse words. I mean, I've seen this 273 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: and even in my own life. I had a family 274 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: member many years ago because after the death of my mother, 275 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: I was very young and I quit school in the 276 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: eighth grade. I lied about my age and I did 277 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: go to work, and a family member said to me, 278 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: you'll never be anything. You'll be a janitor for the 279 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 1: rest of your life and all this kind of those 280 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: were curse words. So that individual was literally, by his words, 281 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: trying to curse me and curse my life. It said, 282 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: I would never amount to anything other than a janitor, 283 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: and there's nothing wrong with a janitor. I've done that 284 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 1: kind of work, and I pllled to people to do 285 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: that work. But his intent was to try and shame 286 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: me because I wouldn't go back to school and I 287 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: was working and I was paying room and board to 288 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: live somewhere. But those words were curse words, and it 289 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: was intent again to shame me and reduce me, when 290 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: he should have been trying to build me up and 291 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: I'm for taking a job and working and paying my way, 292 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: you know, as a young boy and had to grow 293 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 1: up in a whirl with some very hard nosed, rugged individuals. 294 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: But that's what can happen sometimes in some cases, a 295 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: lot of people sometimes Bill just don't look at the 296 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 1: good and everything, do they no? And that is a 297 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: spirit as well, and so it's in today's times, it's 298 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 1: so hard to navigate through all the mind deals that 299 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: are thrown at us on a daily basis. But my 300 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: intent every day of my life, George, and you know me, 301 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: so you know what I'm saying. I love people. I 302 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: take the sufferings of others very personally. So I pray 303 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: every single day of my life that got to work 304 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: for me to be a blessing to somebody. But there 305 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: are people out there they don't have that same mindset, 306 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: and they want to create havoc for people. And there 307 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 1: are people that are so I guess miserable with their 308 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: own lives that they want to create miseries for others, 309 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 1: and they really get a kick out of other people's sufferings. 310 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: And that is the devil, and the devil assigning demons 311 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: to a person that will create a variety of miseries 312 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: and destruction for others. Listen to more Coast to Coast 313 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: AM every weeknight at one a m. Eastern and go 314 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 1: to Coast to Coast am dot com for more