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Speaker 1: n A O n A what up is d J
Speaker 1: e F? And this is gonna Tammy crazy Hall. I
Speaker 1: don't know what he's said. And right now, when you
Speaker 1: talk about lyrics, when you talk about a guy I've seen,
Speaker 1: you know come on the scene, it was crazy. It
Speaker 1: was like burst on the scene and it was it
Speaker 1: was nothing like it like I mean, it was really
Speaker 1: really nothing like it at the time, especially being from Queens.
Speaker 1: Then it became a part of a legendary group. I
Speaker 1: mean every week I called it like Karen Events. He
Speaker 1: was on a clue tape being disrespectful and to let
Speaker 1: you know who wanted basketball, who wanted like he was
Speaker 1: keeping up with the current events. The man has kept
Speaker 1: he was signed, the track master, signed, the nas the
Speaker 1: business with the biggest people in the world. The man
Speaker 1: is still here, still repping that q B, still going harsh,
Speaker 1: still with the hardest boss in the world. And you
Speaker 1: just gotta tell him you want to record with somebody else,
Speaker 1: her body And if you don't know to talk about
Speaker 1: my man, you made yester. Now, now they were gonna
Speaker 1: take this around the world. We're gonna take this from
Speaker 1: the top. Let's take it from the top. Now, you
Speaker 1: be original, right, what block that we from we're talking about? Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's that is technically the hell right yeah, ok yeah,
Speaker 1: the store the block that got the stores in right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: the only block to get the stores. And no, no,
Speaker 1: I mean the Everett that's like, yeah, the street you
Speaker 1: know Vernon Vernon Day, that's Cheka from the poll that
Speaker 1: was just considered burning, right, yeah, but I mean there's
Speaker 1: technically no stores on the block. Tell yeah, put it
Speaker 1: on the store in my mind. Yeah, well so Tennis Street.
Speaker 1: Let's you're gonna we don't pop bottle ace with everybody.
Speaker 1: But you're a very special guy. You know what I'm said.
Speaker 1: We're gonna pop a bottle of ace? What motherfucker nas
Speaker 1: is that? Okay? Is that? Okay? Okay, okay, tell me
Speaker 1: tell you. So let's let's say it from the beginning.
Speaker 1: When did you start rhynning? I start rhyming since a
Speaker 1: kid man. I was the dude that like that just
Speaker 1: loved every record and like, um, I would just like
Speaker 1: change the words of the records, like you know, I
Speaker 1: mean to make my own little records, my own little
Speaker 1: records of it. Yeah, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 1: in my house we had record places. There wasn't turntables.
Speaker 1: I was treating them like turn tables because I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, my pops had a lot of records at
Speaker 1: the time, and I would try I would miss up
Speaker 1: a lot of needles and like that. Remember you mightn't
Speaker 1: really have a j oh, that's a good question. I
Speaker 1: don't really have a you know, I don't really know.
Speaker 1: But I was like I love the blends. I loved
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So um rap was like
Speaker 1: real easy to me. It was like, yo, that was
Speaker 1: the ship, you know what I'm saying. I don't really
Speaker 1: had no name yet. I was like that was the
Speaker 1: hard paull like that we can't make your name and
Speaker 1: like that. But but you know what I mean, hip
Speaker 1: hop just just hip hop because for me it was
Speaker 1: like I did a little bit of all of it.
Speaker 1: You know, I was a kid that could do the
Speaker 1: Buffiti and he was. I spent on my saying roster music.
Speaker 1: But you know when when hip hop was was was
Speaker 1: was becoming some ship I wouldn't you know, we don't
Speaker 1: know who. I don't know if I was gonna be
Speaker 1: the DJ, the rapper. Uh, you know what I'm saying. Ship,
Speaker 1: But but I embodied all of that ship yes, and
Speaker 1: then and then all right, cool, look lootie little shot
Speaker 1: little look a little not shot yet just regular chairs.
Speaker 1: So all right boom. Now when you started Roman, who
Speaker 1: was the people from the Queen's Bridge that was on
Speaker 1: who's here? Like people who looked up to when we
Speaker 1: came up. We've always had like Molly Mars, right, Molly
Speaker 1: Mall was the dude and DJ hot Day that day
Speaker 1: was the dude that was like he brings the speakers
Speaker 1: out and he brings me speakers out. Everybody started coming
Speaker 1: around and you know, it becomes the party, right, So
Speaker 1: we used to use the the part queens bridge was
Speaker 1: right across the street from this big park, so mall
Speaker 1: m all, and these dudes just it used to be
Speaker 1: nothing to come outside and see the em C Shins,
Speaker 1: the Juice crew. There was the Niggers right, so it
Speaker 1: would be like Coogi wrap order about hanging outside outside,
Speaker 1: and now that's outside, these guys walking out. I heard
Speaker 1: Rock did check out my melody. He recorded that one
Speaker 1: of those cane and all these things on your you're
Speaker 1: going to the store, Like holy shit, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. But it was so dope because videos wasn't
Speaker 1: the ship. So if you reach to the point where
Speaker 1: somebody said, yo, that's such and such, who's especially if
Speaker 1: you had the juke box. If you don't have the jukebox,
Speaker 1: man have that dollar twenty five. You know, watch ain't
Speaker 1: half stepping you. But we used to have these jams
Speaker 1: in the park, you know what I'm saying. We had
Speaker 1: River Park, so you know, at any given time, there
Speaker 1: was like forming some ship in front of me. Like
Speaker 1: it was like the empty Shins, the crack gs, the
Speaker 1: rocks and sean time. You don't do they're all older
Speaker 1: than me. But I was the dude that was watching
Speaker 1: these shows in the park from the tree branch, no exaggeration,
Speaker 1: like I know that if I'm too short to stand
Speaker 1: right here, and they like that, and I know that
Speaker 1: if I moved from this tree branch, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to see the show. But I'm watching the hip hop
Speaker 1: live from the beginning, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It was like, holy ship, these guys donna ask you
Speaker 1: a question. So when Shan said hip hop started out
Speaker 1: on the ball, you thought that he really really start.
Speaker 1: I've never been over nowhere else, so I'm like this ship,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. These guys were dope, but
Speaker 1: they was They were just like you didn't. Like I said,
Speaker 1: it was no video, so you have to like love
Speaker 1: this music right here. And the only way you could
Speaker 1: get it was through the radio, I believe, through a
Speaker 1: Friday or Saturday night, through you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: having the radio and taping this ship. And and I
Speaker 1: was the guy that was the next day to be
Speaker 1: playing songs like yeah, you ain't got this right, hitting
Speaker 1: me good, and I'm you know, I'm playing the only
Speaker 1: reason why I didn't I didn't believe Shan. But the
Speaker 1: only reason why I had cousins always from the Bronx
Speaker 1: that with with with debate that immediately, but like, no,
Speaker 1: it didn't come from me. But the day to Queen's
Speaker 1: Bridge was the first people that was actually doing parties
Speaker 1: on the Queen's side. So I can see where you
Speaker 1: know thought that, and I can see where other people
Speaker 1: from Queens because you know that they with a jam
Speaker 1: and Shan right trying to get on chance and listen,
Speaker 1: we are not avoiding you at all. We got we got.
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying was while I was sharing was
Speaker 1: Sham was the first person I've seen I had style.
Speaker 1: He had like two different color pumas, yeah, big kingos,
Speaker 1: he had rope chains. He was like even though you
Speaker 1: know when the when the ship went on with caress
Speaker 1: One and talking about him and all that suff ship,
Speaker 1: but he would walk around and have the audi and
Speaker 1: he was a definition of what a star was. And
Speaker 1: I didn't know what anything sold. He might not have
Speaker 1: ever made any money from the records, but if you
Speaker 1: looked at mc ship, he was at his time, he
Speaker 1: was with it. What we wanted was the man still
Speaker 1: a man, and he did a lot for us things
Speaker 1: in Queens. Richard win the triple off, so okay, so
Speaker 1: you looked up to right now boom, Now what is
Speaker 1: the point what you said to yourself, I'm gonna actually
Speaker 1: do this professionally because me personally, I'll ride for a
Speaker 1: long time. I ride, probably since I was a leaping
Speaker 1: but I never thought of doing it professionally until I
Speaker 1: was like that. For me, I still wasn't even when
Speaker 1: we were just doing the all these clue tapes, right,
Speaker 1: I still didn't really don't say that I didn't take
Speaker 1: it serious, but I still didn't understand what it takes
Speaker 1: to probably shape the album. I'm still didn't none stand
Speaker 1: how to do I'm doing clue taps, not really knowing
Speaker 1: how to count bars. I just know that my bars
Speaker 1: was kind of fire, you know, So I didn't know
Speaker 1: as far as you can't how you getting on clue
Speaker 1: taps to start, you definitely skip the way off. So
Speaker 1: it had to be a moment prior to that that
Speaker 1: you said, you know, I think I could do this,
Speaker 1: Like what was that? I mean? Because at the time
Speaker 1: dudes was establishing names for themselves right after you already
Speaker 1: had the wave of the h Molly's and all these
Speaker 1: other things. It kind of went quiet for a minute, right,
Speaker 1: And so We're still in school, so I'm learning about
Speaker 1: who's dope that's around me, like you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like Yo, the word of spread throughout the hood and
Speaker 1: through school. Who's dope? Like You'll start walking across the
Speaker 1: street to the other side and here, yeah, I heard
Speaker 1: other such as kind of dope. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It might not be an official battle, but you might
Speaker 1: go one ahead. What's going on because people are talking
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and I just knew that. I didn't really
Speaker 1: write rhymes, but I can catch it anything like I
Speaker 1: could catch style. I can catch I knew how to
Speaker 1: change the words, so I can catch anything you threw
Speaker 1: at me. So anytime, dudes was kind of like the
Speaker 1: names was building up, I might have said, like a
Speaker 1: little bit of something that I had. It might not
Speaker 1: be a full rhyme, but my rhynd might be. Like
Speaker 1: like I said, so your name starts getting put in
Speaker 1: these circles. I'm still not thinking about taking serious. It's
Speaker 1: still like I still I had all. I still had
Speaker 1: to go through the trials and tribulations of the hood
Speaker 1: before I even could get to that, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. People didn't know me as a rapper. Certain
Speaker 1: dudes in the school, like you know who's who, who
Speaker 1: could carry who has some balls? But I wasn't like
Speaker 1: it was dudes before me. It was like the Cold
Speaker 1: Megan's and all of that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It was these guys that was putting in work on
Speaker 1: it on the street like some real ship. But my
Speaker 1: name was always mentioned in those circles. But still I
Speaker 1: wasn't the first or first how you talked about for
Speaker 1: the second guy you talked about. But it's circular, yes,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So um, all right, now
Speaker 1: you did that. What was the person in the new
Speaker 1: era that you started to I know you said cold.
Speaker 1: What was the person let's walked you to say, you
Speaker 1: know what, I could do this the new era from
Speaker 1: from Queen's Bridge or anywhere it could be for a minute,
Speaker 1: well doing front and you know what I mean? It
Speaker 1: was it was when the talks of money being made
Speaker 1: when we're actually making records, when he was actually talking
Speaker 1: about um doing an album called the Firm. It was like, Hey,
Speaker 1: this guy from the hood, my gobs from the hood
Speaker 1: that we kind of we we we didn't let's go
Speaker 1: fast with lem just going buying, all right? Well, how
Speaker 1: did you meet jumping with? That's where that that was
Speaker 1: the condition connection, right, yeah, all right, let's go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I mean were in the we in the hood.
Speaker 1: We just vibed out, we just connected earlier. Um, it
Speaker 1: was like exciting for me to actually go from the
Speaker 1: transition from recording in people's cribs to go to the studio.
Speaker 1: So fucking with Jung Jung had the opportunity for us
Speaker 1: to actually go in the studio. So this is the
Speaker 1: first time I'm actually hearing how did young know you, Rhyn? Because, um,
Speaker 1: I mean we all have we all with mutual friends,
Speaker 1: we were all we're all from the project. Jungles from Vernon,
Speaker 1: us from Vernon. For people that don't know queens Bridge,
Speaker 1: I know that is the next block Vernon and timp
Speaker 1: Street would be the next block, and the timpt Street
Speaker 1: and Tall Street be the next block. That one little
Speaker 1: block is a whole another word like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So how did he know you? You Rhyn
Speaker 1: Test Street and he's from Burning Now I think it
Speaker 1: was probably like my dude Killer and probably dudes like
Speaker 1: wiz Killer from Vernon from Okay, but you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, It was association at the time when when
Speaker 1: when Naas was when Nas first came out with his album,
Speaker 1: the guys that was around him were also around me
Speaker 1: and you rhymed back then on that. Yeah, when It
Speaker 1: Matter came out, you already he was already mine, but
Speaker 1: it wasn't But I was not serious until it Mannic
Speaker 1: came out when madd came out, So I gotta get
Speaker 1: my light together, you know what I'm saying. For reals,
Speaker 1: But we've had plenty of conversations prior to making records,
Speaker 1: me and Nas where we didn't sat there, we talked
Speaker 1: and you know, I remember borrowing his Tripical Quests tape
Speaker 1: Tripical Quests came out. I actually borrowed his tape textet
Speaker 1: we will Doead what What's Ale? He came back to
Speaker 1: take came back to the crib to get the tape.
Speaker 1: That's like, you know, we borrowed you take back the
Speaker 1: try bold Quest tape. Now if I'm lying real, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So we were like this ship
Speaker 1: was always around us. Name of the album, it was
Speaker 1: my favorite favorite instincts travel, people's instinct travel. What's that's
Speaker 1: the name of that's the that's the first one, right,
Speaker 1: that's the first one, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: we we were around this ship. We loved this ship,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So you're saying, you all
Speaker 1: right because I didn't know this. I swear to God,
Speaker 1: I did not know this. So you knew NAS and
Speaker 1: don't do prior to them, even they're really really nice
Speaker 1: because NAS is most of my age. So you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it's like at the time, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm sucking up. I'm you know what I'm saying. I'm
Speaker 1: doing all kind of getting in trouble and ship like that,
Speaker 1: and the guys that's around and saying, you know what,
Speaker 1: I got somebody that I got faith in two some
Speaker 1: from the block that I think that we should kind
Speaker 1: of like bring him to the studio and try to
Speaker 1: do some ship. They talked about you what they told
Speaker 1: about they're talking about me, you know what they're talking
Speaker 1: about me. So they get me to the studio. We
Speaker 1: started recording. I don't know, I don't remember. Probably was
Speaker 1: shout off DJ Clue that very first shootout joint probably was.
Speaker 1: That was like one of the first records I've ever
Speaker 1: made like that. So thet me so so we went
Speaker 1: into the studio and we should start making little free styles. Right.
Speaker 1: Clue made it open because he gave us the opportunity
Speaker 1: to like to get on these tapes. Right, I'm still
Speaker 1: not really taking it serious, just like because everybody's going
Speaker 1: their way up. There's nobody that's really you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's kind of different when you when your men,
Speaker 1: like when you spend time with somebody from more and
Speaker 1: they become famous. I'm just still my man from a
Speaker 1: little I'm just supposed to still be my man. Certain
Speaker 1: things change in life. We totally understand that. But at
Speaker 1: that one point, do I look at you as like that?
Speaker 1: Because I got plenty of stories of like why you're
Speaker 1: becoming this stall? We're still right here and if you're
Speaker 1: my man, I'm playing different roles for you that serious.
Speaker 1: But didn't know. I didn't know until I see all
Speaker 1: these other rappers I got told you I was coming
Speaker 1: from being locked up and remember that, so I didn't
Speaker 1: really care what it is. But I didn't realize that
Speaker 1: Clue was giving me the opportunity to be first or
Speaker 1: second on these tapes and me and the locks and ship,
Speaker 1: like that's what these dudes is becoming something, and they
Speaker 1: had these expectations of me. I didn't know because I'm
Speaker 1: following my team's lead. So they're talking about forming some
Speaker 1: big ship that's going on. Who's the team and the
Speaker 1: team at the time. I mean, I'm who's talking. I'm
Speaker 1: coming into the game, into the studio, still being a
Speaker 1: part of NAS. So whatever he's shoying to for him,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what he's shying the form, but I'm
Speaker 1: a part of that, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: we're running around, they're talking about doing the firm, and
Speaker 1: he's picking these other rappers that I've never known met before,
Speaker 1: but you heard of. They're becoming, they're becoming stars there
Speaker 1: their own people in their own right. But I was
Speaker 1: pulled into this game because as a reaction, Okay, let's
Speaker 1: take a shot before we go there, I feel like
Speaker 1: you want to go to them. We're gonna talk about whatever.
Speaker 1: But it's not like your typical ship, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Because all right, the hold I remember, let
Speaker 1: me go on. I'm bringing back because when I was
Speaker 1: doing these clue joints, I'm recording these clue joints every
Speaker 1: every time crew comes out. I'm I'm on these tapes right,
Speaker 1: but how did it get to the Clue joints? Though
Speaker 1: the guy's clue was kind of because Clue was in
Speaker 1: house with Steve down and that, but I'm still not
Speaker 1: I'm stale. I'm sorry you just cut off because one
Speaker 1: a second at this time, I still can't describe the
Speaker 1: buzz that Clue had, like the amount that it meant
Speaker 1: for you to be a number one through five people
Speaker 1: getting signed for Clue. So like at first, like I
Speaker 1: haven't I described when I met you, but when I
Speaker 1: didn't meet you, I think the first three style you
Speaker 1: had with just you by yourself, so no one knew
Speaker 1: your affiliation, no one. It was the second threestyle but
Speaker 1: nows actually set some Adeline or something. I don't remember
Speaker 1: like perfectly, but I remember how step shipped meant to
Speaker 1: the city, so I know him on No, no, no,
Speaker 1: they're got a shot the shot. Let's stay forward, sile side,
Speaker 1: stay listen to you three ten say bad Wana made?
Speaker 1: So so what's happening, what's happening? What's happening? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I can't what's going on? Got sorry? Alright? So bom um,
Speaker 1: all right, So you start doing the coupe tech first one,
Speaker 1: the second one didn't, so you you don't actually know
Speaker 1: what's what's going on because the firm had already been
Speaker 1: started at that time. They had already been starting, okay,
Speaker 1: And I'm not really being so I'm not talking about
Speaker 1: business when it comes down to that, I'm basically the
Speaker 1: guy the shooter. I'm still trying to figure out what
Speaker 1: kind of who I am, what kind of style I have.
Speaker 1: I just know that clue is after I do this take,
Speaker 1: I'm getting a response from the people, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it's a little bit bigger from going
Speaker 1: from rapping on the corner. So I went from rapping
Speaker 1: on the corner to wrapping in people's cribs in the
Speaker 1: living rooms in the basements, to now going to the
Speaker 1: studio and actually getting a good sound and ship you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and leaving with tapes and ship
Speaker 1: like that, and so the people in the hood as
Speaker 1: actually starting to talk. It's starting to talk. I'm becoming
Speaker 1: another one of those names that's from the hood, that's
Speaker 1: You've got so many after this freestyle at least, you know,
Speaker 1: in the studio and just doing just being in the studio,
Speaker 1: being being affiliated with Son because he didn't really start
Speaker 1: to do anything for anybody yet outside of life's a
Speaker 1: bit you didn't really he didn't. You know, he's still
Speaker 1: climbing up on his way up. But to actually here that, Yo,
Speaker 1: he got somebody from the hood that's that can actually
Speaker 1: wrap it. And you know what I'm saying. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And I'm not one of the first people.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the relationship that he has with
Speaker 1: Mega or what he has with all these other guys,
Speaker 1: but I just know that everybody that that hung around
Speaker 1: was kind of old to one kind of cruel to
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, one kind of crue I
Speaker 1: didn't understand the business. I didn't understand this, but I
Speaker 1: know that I've been listening to rap for so long
Speaker 1: that I could do this ship too, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So what happened when they approach you and
Speaker 1: that was what was it? Steve Stout? Is that the
Speaker 1: first person to turn it into business for you? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because that's the first people that I actually got to
Speaker 1: check from. So to Steve Stout, I say, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, shout out to them. They the ones
Speaker 1: that actually was like because it's not like your hand,
Speaker 1: they put you on a clue tape without you actually
Speaker 1: signing to them. Yes, because I was crazy because clue
Speaker 1: tape us still with like, no, I didn't know what
Speaker 1: this one, what was happening with these clue tapes. I
Speaker 1: just know that when I was going to go see
Speaker 1: my po wan't Jamaica my po fucking We're going in there.
Speaker 1: We're going to record store, one of these little small
Speaker 1: last record stores, and that's when you actually will buy
Speaker 1: the tape just because of certain names was on it,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I didn't realize that
Speaker 1: people was buying it because Lean was on it until
Speaker 1: I was meeting these people like oh Ship. But at
Speaker 1: the time, it was almost like ghost space killer when
Speaker 1: I say that in the happening, really the cowboy happen
Speaker 1: the cowboy you know where I think it's from the
Speaker 1: hood making they get they get you know who got it?
Speaker 1: Then when they get a cow cowboy, I got the cowboys.
Speaker 1: So all right, Clue, let's just get into it. I
Speaker 1: think the first time I met you, it's in the
Speaker 1: studio very j blis friend fatal let me tell you
Speaker 1: something to get there. I always heard about this guy,
Speaker 1: but I never was around this guy right here right.
Speaker 1: I knew Capone because Capone was from Queensbridge. So in
Speaker 1: the middle of me getting locked up and doing dumb shit,
Speaker 1: these guys happened to shoot a video on the roof
Speaker 1: of my building. Video was shot on the you know,
Speaker 1: on the roof of my building. So I see these
Speaker 1: guys there. I didn't need him still to me, I know,
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It was still this guy that had this
Speaker 1: this opward style. Nobody didn't know, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: They thought his name was Jose Luise. I didn't know,
Speaker 1: but I thought on the side this ye about celebrated stories.
Speaker 1: I mean, who I fake? Fake? Oh God, So this
Speaker 1: guy right here making his rounds. I'm still a fan
Speaker 1: of what's going on. And it wasn't until a round
Speaker 1: of time when he was actually doing the firm that
Speaker 1: we was drown in the pot together. So it's like
Speaker 1: I've never been nowhere. So my first time in Miami
Speaker 1: might have been his first time in Miami. Have no
Speaker 1: driver's license. We're just out heads, smoking weed and hanging
Speaker 1: around the fellers and dre and these niggas and ship
Speaker 1: like that your bowl on. I'm saying the very first
Speaker 1: time was before that though, But where was we act
Speaker 1: right track? It was with us married j Bilies when
Speaker 1: that record, when that record came out. So this is this,
Speaker 1: This is what I gotta ask. I gotta ask because
Speaker 1: I know you probably answered this a million times. I'm
Speaker 1: sure you know MEGA probably asked the million times. But
Speaker 1: here's is it on that record? That was the record
Speaker 1: that you went that? Yeah, that was the record. I
Speaker 1: had heard that he was a guy no no please,
Speaker 1: and somebody bullshit gash me told me, yo, he's talking
Speaker 1: about you. Y know, they're talking about you and they're
Speaker 1: shipping on you, and it was managining every record. But
Speaker 1: when he said there they do because all right, so
Speaker 1: that's would happened. Okay, he's saying that when you got
Speaker 1: to the studio, when you have to student, people are
Speaker 1: saying that, or people are saying that price you get
Speaker 1: into the slide. To me, getting that makes sense because
Speaker 1: you know why because I'm the only one that one
Speaker 1: left field on that record. Listen, I was Mary j
Speaker 1: By So here's a jip. I went to the I
Speaker 1: think I went I was too scared to use the
Speaker 1: interns at this time, so I actually went to the
Speaker 1: store or something myself to go grab some more super cigars.
Speaker 1: Like I didn't know how the studio work. I just
Speaker 1: wanted to rhyme, you know what I'm saying, So I
Speaker 1: didn't want to push nobody's buttons. But by the time
Speaker 1: I came back and when I heard I heard I
Speaker 1: heard your ROM, I had thought, this is this is
Speaker 1: that you cleared a twenty year history for me, for
Speaker 1: me personally, because I'm on the record, and prior to that,
Speaker 1: I didn't see them trying to gas he was I said,
Speaker 1: I didn't see the people. I didn't see Nas, I
Speaker 1: didn't see Jungle, I didn't see Steve Stout like suggesting
Speaker 1: that you go at Beta, right, So I didn't see that.
Speaker 1: So as I came back, you know, I've been't had
Speaker 1: my ROM ready. But then when I heard your mom or,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think you went first for sure,
Speaker 1: and I just didn't know where they come from, where
Speaker 1: it came from, right, Okay, I'm fucking we we did
Speaker 1: the y sound like ben Bleak story was now heard
Speaker 1: that I know that I was going out of town.
Speaker 1: I heard yo this guy's talking about you. He said
Speaker 1: such and stuff. So they even told me some bullshit,
Speaker 1: but I started to cut you. I'm sorry to stop you.
Speaker 1: But at the time, you you wasn't the member of
Speaker 1: the firm yet. You was just yeah, we said. But
Speaker 1: but I felt like they made me feel like I
Speaker 1: was in competition for this, for the for that pos
Speaker 1: they made me feel like I was in kind You mean,
Speaker 1: you didn't know the powers that So I hear this ship,
Speaker 1: I'm tight as a motherfucker. We go to the studio.
Speaker 1: We got everybody in their clues, Mary, everybody in there,
Speaker 1: and I just decided to just use this record right
Speaker 1: here to to to start some bullshit. I don't know
Speaker 1: start that. I'm not even going. I mean, it's over
Speaker 1: come on, I don't know. It was a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of ship. It was. It was. It was a record
Speaker 1: that had so much of us. I don't think it
Speaker 1: so crazy that even when they blocked out Megan's name,
Speaker 1: you still knew it was not because the street start
Speaker 1: talking at that time, Street start talking, what was coming
Speaker 1: on the player? Come on, you know family like Megan knows,
Speaker 1: and come on, we did it with him it Come on,
Speaker 1: this yeah, I got his phone. It was it was
Speaker 1: the people that was sucking over there. I got something
Speaker 1: you want to go Okay, you don't even know. So
Speaker 1: that was it. That was it, and that was just
Speaker 1: enough for me. I thought at the time, UM, just
Speaker 1: speak my piece, right, So when I speak my piece,
Speaker 1: I knew I'm going out of town. I just thought
Speaker 1: about it. I just didn't didn't think about it. So
Speaker 1: once I fucking I went to l A. I had
Speaker 1: to go to l A. And like two days after
Speaker 1: this where you talking about the l A. So this
Speaker 1: is when I go to l A. I get the call.
Speaker 1: Clue just came outside. Oh my god, it's on and
Speaker 1: soon you getting back. It's on. So I'm like what
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, I'm still gonna do it
Speaker 1: blind because I didn't feel that I was the aggressive.
Speaker 1: I felt that I was defending myself. I felt that, yo,
Speaker 1: somebody took a shot and take a shot back. Just
Speaker 1: what we do. This is what we do, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? It's still it still was nothing personal.
Speaker 1: Was just like I'm feeling myself. We both in the spot,
Speaker 1: but we didn't really know. Question your people that was
Speaker 1: telling you that the you I loved going to the studio.
Speaker 1: I didn't think about that. I was like, oh, you
Speaker 1: said this is true, I said, but what's true? But
Speaker 1: but and this is like I said, like I got
Speaker 1: he's on on standby two. This kay, But this is
Speaker 1: real ship. The thing is about it is we can
Speaker 1: only change our future, our passes, our past. We gotta
Speaker 1: live up to our past right now. Of course it's
Speaker 1: so much s. I don't want to what I did.
Speaker 1: I did, I didn't do, you know what I mean. Now,
Speaker 1: it's not about shut up what but I mean, that's
Speaker 1: that's the ship that happened. And that was my mind state.
Speaker 1: I felt like, no, and nobody's gonna take this away
Speaker 1: from me. This is my first time actually flying out
Speaker 1: of state. Just's my actually getting this big check. This,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I'm my mind around. I'm
Speaker 1: still in the hood. It's like when you hear when
Speaker 1: you got your check and still it's like I'm still
Speaker 1: boring crack crack. I'm gonna train with in my pocket,
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying. Changed my life for real,
Speaker 1: like real ship. I look, I'm in there with the
Speaker 1: money though, you know what I mean. So I felt
Speaker 1: like I had to protect that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It was It was never nine personal or nothing, but
Speaker 1: I felt like, yeah, you ain't gonna take them from this.
Speaker 1: Life is changing. I got the Cowboy because this is
Speaker 1: my acts. It's cause at that time I needed to know.
Speaker 1: I never really knew. I never really knew, like I thought,
Speaker 1: actually you got gas, I thought, or like or not
Speaker 1: you got gas or somebody gas to just to say that,
Speaker 1: let me tell you that I'm not. I was never
Speaker 1: known as the hustler or the crack seller, so my
Speaker 1: name was never gonna be like, oh you heard your
Speaker 1: nature out there that they didn't even really know some
Speaker 1: people but still called me by my real name, So
Speaker 1: you got real name in the world. The head his
Speaker 1: real name sounds like a superhero Jermain Baxter. Sounds like
Speaker 1: they just put on a case and just like, listen,
Speaker 1: the superhero sneature. But when you go to us, I
Speaker 1: even gave you the slim name with that Alder. The
Speaker 1: dudes that I probably met in the game throughout my
Speaker 1: whole career, the most genuine dude's been this guy that's
Speaker 1: been my guy. So our stories are so intertwined. It's
Speaker 1: like he asked me questions that he probably he knows,
Speaker 1: you know not but you know what I mean. But
Speaker 1: that's how we win as far as on that side.
Speaker 1: So we're becoming notorious on the streets as far as
Speaker 1: the clue. They're putting us together, and then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, boom, the relationship between Son and Mega falls.
Speaker 1: So when that's when that relationship, this is, this is,
Speaker 1: this is, this is It's important, not only important to me,
Speaker 1: but important to the audience because um, at that moment
Speaker 1: was it wasn't you felt obligated to say, you know what,
Speaker 1: this is my team. They put me in this position.
Speaker 1: Let me take that, let me take that. So it's
Speaker 1: like it's like when Charles walking off, somebody gets traded
Speaker 1: to the next team, Like and you with that next team,
Speaker 1: you want an elbow. That's what it was. This is
Speaker 1: the guy, right, what happened is it's the guy placed something.
Speaker 1: This guy that that's that's basically changing your life, right,
Speaker 1: he has the opportunity to change your life. It's not right,
Speaker 1: but he's going through such a transition that I can't
Speaker 1: be with him every day. So somehow I'm getting connected
Speaker 1: more and more every day with jungle right, because it's
Speaker 1: the same. You know, when it's time to be somewhere,
Speaker 1: it's still coming down the chain of the chain of
Speaker 1: the command. We didn't sign papers to say, hey, you
Speaker 1: and this is where you come into play. We didn't.
Speaker 1: We never signed papers to say, hey, you're gonna be
Speaker 1: my manager or this and that. We're become brothers. And
Speaker 1: at the same time, he's forming a bond with you,
Speaker 1: so we both have the same manager or the same
Speaker 1: guy at the same time. So it's only right that
Speaker 1: me and you start bonding. But mind, I'm older than
Speaker 1: you guys, you know what I mean. But we're all
Speaker 1: for the same ship. You guys have a name before me.
Speaker 1: So I'm still a fan. I don't no matter what,
Speaker 1: I still coach your first ship on you because I'm
Speaker 1: a fan of this. But we're becoming brothers now because
Speaker 1: we all are locked in together. I don't think that's
Speaker 1: deserve a shot. Got got that, souther What happened is
Speaker 1: fucking with track Masters. They designed the Bearsville situation. That's later.
Speaker 1: Hold on, you're going to but this is how it happens.
Speaker 1: Keep up with me, y'all, Keep up, look at the shot,
Speaker 1: Keep up with me. It's done. It's done. God, Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, so God, so after this comes out, because
Speaker 1: that bears mil was after that, right yeah, bears filds
Speaker 1: before any like, right before the firm, and that's when
Speaker 1: I will start my solo. Okay, all let's describe how
Speaker 1: crazy bears Field describe out like, Yo, I've never seen
Speaker 1: no ship like this. Like I said, I'm still counting
Speaker 1: the places I'm going. I'm still new feeling, I'm still hood,
Speaker 1: We're still rough around. And they put this, they designed
Speaker 1: it where as we can go to the studio in
Speaker 1: the woods. You don't you can't leave. There's no stores,
Speaker 1: no store. Anything you need is cater to you. Jail yail,
Speaker 1: and it's and it's me Nori in the house. The
Speaker 1: houses houses the house. Half the house is fifty half
Speaker 1: the houses. Me of problems, I got my I got
Speaker 1: my old Listen. What happened is what happen. Know this
Speaker 1: is real ship track masters are so hot and it
Speaker 1: was so important to them that everybody like listen and
Speaker 1: with them. I was the only artist that wasn't on
Speaker 1: track master. I was so connected with the firm and everything,
Speaker 1: and they couldn't keep up with him. First of all,
Speaker 1: they can't control him and making and making his own
Speaker 1: whatever he needs to do. He has that momentum ready.
Speaker 1: We're still coming in like, oh Ship, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. They followed my league, but um, but they
Speaker 1: lead it. They lead it with me, you know. And
Speaker 1: I remember, I remember, I remember listening to him and Polk.
Speaker 1: I will never forget this conversation to have with him.
Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, I needed Street Dreams and they
Speaker 1: was like, Nope, you ain't gonna get that from us.
Speaker 1: And I said, what, you don't know? What's crazy? At
Speaker 1: that time, all the records that nazis to turn down,
Speaker 1: they used to give him The fifty supposed to be
Speaker 1: reconsiectually be like, oh, Ship, I heard that over here,
Speaker 1: but he got a version of it. And he's creating
Speaker 1: whole songs at the time. Remember he was like really
Speaker 1: doing that. They was going at him because that's when
Speaker 1: they're like, yo, why are you singing? Or why you
Speaker 1: know how to how do you know how to ramp?
Speaker 1: And try to harmonize. It was the game was kind
Speaker 1: of different, but he was right there with us, so
Speaker 1: they was kind of trying to fill in the void.
Speaker 1: We're making this firm album that's supposed to be this
Speaker 1: amazing ship. But we have Nori. That's not a firm. Remember,
Speaker 1: we have cannabis, we have guys. That was kind of
Speaker 1: half half him. Yeah, he's on the desperas you know whatever.
Speaker 1: Steve Styling track Masters was hard. They was gonna throw
Speaker 1: our us. But at the same time we were so
Speaker 1: dope they gotta stop you right there, Steve Style Tracks
Speaker 1: is not bring me in Jungle from me in Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got, But what I'm saying is the politics of
Speaker 1: the game before we stopped, you need to say, you know,
Speaker 1: firm O and all of that. Nori was so dope
Speaker 1: that he was part of one of the dopest songs
Speaker 1: on the joint with me. He actually got to ask
Speaker 1: yourself why there was never a video, why there was
Speaker 1: never that. That's a whole another chapter. Face, brother, he's
Speaker 1: trying to So I'm gonna be honest, this is my
Speaker 1: my brother. Like everybody like Yo, I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: something I always say. The transition to my solo career
Speaker 1: was I'm leaving like that ship because that did the
Speaker 1: war report. You know, you've got the blunt spreading. Come on,
Speaker 1: about next time. What you want to blunt? You want
Speaker 1: a motherfucking you know, for the for cancer awareness. That's
Speaker 1: chance in there's a little bit of the book. You
Speaker 1: doing that, Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can grow on small.
Speaker 1: We got the more you ain't got, the more you know. Um.
Speaker 1: So I always say, yeah, understand what's going on right here? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Basically right, you know what's gonna So you got you
Speaker 1: up with the speed, right, you have more spread, then
Speaker 1: listen form let's pick up to the side, regular drinks.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something, this real ship. After the
Speaker 1: War report, I was stuck. It was called music, purgatory music.
Speaker 1: And for those who don't know what purgatory means, purgatory
Speaker 1: is is that place stuff between heat on the hat.
Speaker 1: You're gone. You don't know if you're gonna make it
Speaker 1: back seven Oh you're gonna make it that. I didn't
Speaker 1: really know I was selling crack. I went back to
Speaker 1: Southern cracks, just fucking do what I know now. It
Speaker 1: was actually on the War Pour, the album trying to
Speaker 1: come music making stucks. Calm down that that story is
Speaker 1: up in the air. After the ax nots. When he
Speaker 1: was here, I was there. I was there at night
Speaker 1: when Eat Eat money Backs, Eat money Back. He raised
Speaker 1: the room. And he wasn't credit on the record in
Speaker 1: the official album. Not No, that's not the truth. He
Speaker 1: wasn't credited for album Love My Life. He was being
Speaker 1: one be stuck on that game. Keep behind the real
Speaker 1: fact that I was. So I was trying to figure
Speaker 1: out how this guy, this guy right here was surviving
Speaker 1: all the ship because I come from the ship and
Speaker 1: this motherfucker came in at every time and delivered such
Speaker 1: an energy and such a ship that I always went
Speaker 1: home like scratching my head, like, Yo, how to thank
Speaker 1: your day? I got? Yeah, you know it's me and
Speaker 1: my train of thought was in the album all right.
Speaker 1: So room is that the money bags was on it.
Speaker 1: NAS didn't like that the money bags was took off
Speaker 1: of it and Tray just put on it. So that's
Speaker 1: the room, all right. The rumor was he wanted to
Speaker 1: make it up. He wanted to make it up to us.
Speaker 1: He want to so so he this is the crazy shit.
Speaker 1: He promised me to come to Miami. Firms didn't go
Speaker 1: to Miami. I'm talking about NAS. Yeah, this is for
Speaker 1: the firm out. This is no one to announced the
Speaker 1: firm I'm not sure at this time, but then the
Speaker 1: Firm album actually comes and I remember it was a
Speaker 1: Nature's session. It was a Tuesday, and it was one
Speaker 1: of million percent Nature's session. So because I flew out
Speaker 1: on my own and when I flew there, his Nature's session,
Speaker 1: and that's how I'm leaving became. And I always felt
Speaker 1: like the brol could have been like, man, funk this
Speaker 1: other dude. Let him get out this fucking session. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like when the Beatles played Ilied
Speaker 1: played to be I know this obviously me trappeds his credit?
Speaker 1: Did I believes to be your record? I think he
Speaker 1: was running through beats, running through beast they trying to
Speaker 1: because when we start, can we talking about firm Ship?
Speaker 1: In my opinion, the firm Ship was contractually set up
Speaker 1: to kind of like crash right, meaning when I said that,
Speaker 1: because everybody was on different labels when they reached this
Speaker 1: peak and they decided to put the album out on
Speaker 1: Interscope Records, where nobody was on in the Scope Records labels.
Speaker 1: So the labels say, hell, no, you're not gonna deliver album.
Speaker 1: Give it to this label right here, that's not us
Speaker 1: and make money for us. Here's your stipulation. You can
Speaker 1: only be on a certain amount of records. You can
Speaker 1: only probably be on three records. So if you listen
Speaker 1: to the album, the person that's not signed filling all
Speaker 1: the void, which happened to be me. So the outside
Speaker 1: people looked at it if it was like my album, you,
Speaker 1: I mean from from from the way that it was labeled.
Speaker 1: You couldn't just say it was the firm. You have
Speaker 1: to say it's nas Asy Foxy Brown presents the front right.
Speaker 1: And since they did that, and Sony was like, nah,
Speaker 1: you're not nas. You can't deliver another album to in
Speaker 1: the scope. You gotta kind of do this, Yeah, you gotta,
Speaker 1: you gotta do this our way. So I was the
Speaker 1: person that filled in the gap. If it was probably
Speaker 1: called Mega at the time, it might have been called Mega.
Speaker 1: But if Omega wasn't on depth him and they might
Speaker 1: have said the same ship too. I didn't have no paperwork.
Speaker 1: So at this time I'm filling in records and I'm
Speaker 1: vibing with this guy. I got stories with my first
Speaker 1: time in California with this guy. Remember, I remember one
Speaker 1: time I was in the studio and these guys left
Speaker 1: me right him and Jungle left me, and then they
Speaker 1: came back into the studio while I'm still in there
Speaker 1: right in the record with brand new sneakers and branding right,
Speaker 1: and they had my sneakers handing outside the door. So
Speaker 1: they came in like, hey, we weren't shot and we
Speaker 1: were fresh. We got this. I'm like, oh, I can't leave,
Speaker 1: you know, I couldn't leave. There's act like they had
Speaker 1: no speakers for me and fucking boom. Here at the
Speaker 1: rand New Rand New the only hand day. It was
Speaker 1: a party, Dre and I was having a party and
Speaker 1: Nori was the person that said, I want to go
Speaker 1: to Compton. I want to see Compton. I don't care
Speaker 1: if I'm nothing else right, And Jungle goes to this
Speaker 1: party with the same sekers on and the same basketball
Speaker 1: jerseys on. Mean why the whole party got on suits
Speaker 1: and ties. And this guy goes to party in Compton
Speaker 1: comes back talking about, Yo, these guys that shower caps
Speaker 1: on them. Everyone he wanted to know. I used to go.
Speaker 1: I said, what, I want to go and see the
Speaker 1: actual woods. He's like, party, I want to go to those,
Speaker 1: That's what I mean, Like, Yo, this is some real
Speaker 1: this is my brother right here. I don't remember what.
Speaker 1: They're sitting the corners with shower cap. I was like,
Speaker 1: New York, never heard of no ship like that. I
Speaker 1: love it. I love so. But let's just tell these
Speaker 1: guys right, so we walk in. Now, I think you're
Speaker 1: used to this. Now me hearing your story, Now you're
Speaker 1: like a great actor, because I thought like you were
Speaker 1: just used, like because we were sitting there. Dr Dre's
Speaker 1: like this neue nature and I'm looking like holy ship.
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm trying to keep about to say
Speaker 1: I'm not stop. He's rolling joint force. This is real
Speaker 1: ship head just buying handy force every night, every night
Speaker 1: he just got married, you know, shots to Dr Ja.
Speaker 1: I know, I know he's about to get Dr Dre James, Well,
Speaker 1: I gotta shot. Let's take side of the real ship.
Speaker 1: The word about the s it comes from the ship.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. We're running around trying to
Speaker 1: we're trying to make yourself and ship like that. And
Speaker 1: every night Dr Dre just got married by us. Henny,
Speaker 1: he's rolling us joints and pretty much the ball the
Speaker 1: bullets in our court, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: Nori comes in. We do I'm leaving. We know it's
Speaker 1: a banger. I know it's a banging because if you
Speaker 1: correct me, if I'm wrong. This is what happened to
Speaker 1: me and my thing. I was my session supposed to
Speaker 1: be Wednesday. I landed on a Tuesday because I had
Speaker 1: to fly to JFK JF Kick Up the Dells Fly
Speaker 1: Tuesday yourself. We had. It was it was that type
Speaker 1: of party we went. It was the session nat just
Speaker 1: finished these clue sessions natives to me. To me, You're
Speaker 1: probably looking at me like I got a name, but
Speaker 1: I'm looking at you like you're the hottest stink in
Speaker 1: the world, Like you know what I'm saying. It's not
Speaker 1: then it's you, So correct me from wrong. In my opinion,
Speaker 1: the drever was playing it and engineering so he said
Speaker 1: he said, I forget what he said. He said, Yo,
Speaker 1: you got something for this, and I was to the
Speaker 1: side and I was like, he was like, I don't
Speaker 1: even know how you announced my name. I know it's wrong,
Speaker 1: Like how Yeah, So I went to that opening to
Speaker 1: go through that. You know what I'm saying things I
Speaker 1: would try to but anyway it might for you tell
Speaker 1: me and this is the reason why this is I'm leaving.
Speaker 1: It wasn't what I'm leaving. There's no band from TV. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm leaving. I felt that he bodied it. I'm leaving,
Speaker 1: I think still coming from it from a literal standpoint,
Speaker 1: and he's coming from it from five. He just he
Speaker 1: knows how to just set the vibe. And so that's
Speaker 1: why when it came down the band from TV, when
Speaker 1: we get there, okay, it was time to set the vibe. Like, Yo,
Speaker 1: it's a difference between um ran from dope rhymes and
Speaker 1: like you're creating something that yeah something, let me just
Speaker 1: say this everywhere back and I'm leaving. I'm leaving. Listen.
Speaker 1: At any moment, Nature could have been like, Yo, wait
Speaker 1: a minute, this is my session. This is why I
Speaker 1: funk with you. That's why I love you to this day.
Speaker 1: It's because at any time that was his session. It
Speaker 1: was a Tuesday. My session wasn't to a Wednesday. That's
Speaker 1: when Bloody Money Part two came out. That's what that says.
Speaker 1: I was. I'm saying you. I'm saying, come on, I
Speaker 1: don't get none of this. I forget. I can forgive
Speaker 1: you everything I just did. But so that session with
Speaker 1: Ill Kill You Not, I had these rhymes. The reason
Speaker 1: why I no, we know this and nor we know that? Yo,
Speaker 1: but no we know God why that I can make
Speaker 1: your famous? The reason why I said it, I don't
Speaker 1: think it was. I don't know seeing this the greatest
Speaker 1: live was the reason why I said it because those
Speaker 1: rhymes was originally on the Warry coord album. That was
Speaker 1: a whole record. I m so so from so it
Speaker 1: was crazy. Didn't know it? Yeah right, okay, so so
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, um, so that's the reason was. And I
Speaker 1: remember because I remember, I feel like Dre was right
Speaker 1: there like I did it perfect the first time and
Speaker 1: he was like, you gotta do it over and I
Speaker 1: was like, it's that because it's perfect, but I'm Dr
Speaker 1: Dre and I didn't understand what he meant and I
Speaker 1: did it like several more times or whatever, right, mom.
Speaker 1: The bottom line is that record from me into a
Speaker 1: whole other level. It brom me to it, and it
Speaker 1: was crazy because I was like, you know, coming up
Speaker 1: in and and what we was doing still even though
Speaker 1: I had an album out, but it was like that
Speaker 1: differentiated me from everyone else that record, yes, and I
Speaker 1: was mad. I was like he got me on that
Speaker 1: This is the book runs up to the band from TV.
Speaker 1: So you remember what studio? He is a bad from TV,
Speaker 1: But I don't remember. I had dog was there. I
Speaker 1: remember the night when when we first came to do
Speaker 1: them from TV, which turned into being from TV. That
Speaker 1: wasn't the beat, that's right. It's because of you. That
Speaker 1: wasn't to be like like y'all naked your faith, like, look,
Speaker 1: I gotta do a bega what you want my album?
Speaker 1: Remember you gotta go first. You walked out the room.
Speaker 1: He was like, all right, god, do what you do?
Speaker 1: Boom And I was switting there smoking weed and I
Speaker 1: hack a dog with me and I was like, you
Speaker 1: know what. I wanted to show him that I could
Speaker 1: fucking stop a mudhole and this beach. That's true. I
Speaker 1: know this is true. Listen. I had to Swiss beat
Speaker 1: because you got me, because you got me on. Just
Speaker 1: get you what you did. This is the crazy thing
Speaker 1: we didn't we did. It's Electric Lady, by the way.
Speaker 1: The studio that I wasn't really good in there I was.
Speaker 1: I was doing my studio, Jimmy studio, the studio with
Speaker 1: the cat allerged tout in the world and woke by me.
Speaker 1: And that's not because Jimmy will tell you why why
Speaker 1: I felt a certain way. I'm telling you way because
Speaker 1: because no one else, because because he's right there with me.
Speaker 1: Right But at the same time, he's not just by himself.
Speaker 1: He kind of has a little people. He has shipped
Speaker 1: in perspective, has people like you're gonna do this, You're
Speaker 1: gonna book the studio, You're gonna do this. And I
Speaker 1: didn't have none of that. But some fucking rhymes, man,
Speaker 1: and he had the business sense of it back then.
Speaker 1: So to hear your this, Nick is not making a mistake.
Speaker 1: Why didn't Why do they love him? He's fucking oh man,
Speaker 1: you know he's not the most lirical guy. He got
Speaker 1: he gotta stab but no, that's how he was. We
Speaker 1: came up in that competitive that but and he just
Speaker 1: got me on the last record we did, so I
Speaker 1: have to get him. So now he plays his speech
Speaker 1: and I didn't know this. Swiss comes in, So the
Speaker 1: first beat isn't Swiss, Just to be I believe old
Speaker 1: beats free time. I'm meeting Swiss, just the guy with
Speaker 1: this funnel, Swiss, the guy with the funny notes. He
Speaker 1: was we know you don't don't even saying this. He
Speaker 1: has his ship in the order, he knows producers names,
Speaker 1: he knows he knows certain ships, and I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: I don't know that. You know, you know he has
Speaker 1: this relationship with people before before back there shot. So
Speaker 1: Swiss comes in and he plays this due and I say,
Speaker 1: you know what, this makes me feel like a superhero.
Speaker 1: This band from TV BET And I'm saying to my man,
Speaker 1: you know what, watch this. Nor leaves the room. I
Speaker 1: write the rhyme this is probably you know what I'm
Speaker 1: feeling it because I like to see with me sometimes
Speaker 1: I was with the beat. Come back in the house.
Speaker 1: He stopped on a second and passing right back. We're
Speaker 1: gonna do three of the fires. I threw away so
Speaker 1: much rhyme because I wrote the rhymes to the beat.
Speaker 1: So I'm mad. I'm mad at this dude. So uh
Speaker 1: like Grace Lapious was of course the street. So I
Speaker 1: go down I go down there, and I remember that's
Speaker 1: Punt's favorite ship. So I just hit point when he's
Speaker 1: on a two way or something like yo, you know,
Speaker 1: we were a course free from Grace Vapious. So the
Speaker 1: punt is an idiot. He fucking I never said comes
Speaker 1: from grace for pious. I just said, you know, just
Speaker 1: you know, I'll just thinking about you. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm said, great pious. So when when Nate I come
Speaker 1: back in and you know, I can see Swiss, he's rest.
Speaker 1: So Swiss only played this is what happened. Swiss only
Speaker 1: played the loop the sample. The actually beat never dropped.
Speaker 1: So the whole time I got nature in there, and
Speaker 1: it's a vibe. I know this nigga now, So it's
Speaker 1: a vibe if he's feeling something he liked, if he's
Speaker 1: feeling something up. So he didn't do that for three beats.
Speaker 1: I don't told him this is a this is I
Speaker 1: think in my mind like doing a little coming on
Speaker 1: like the rider anthems. And I'm like, no, you don't
Speaker 1: like and he's like, you know, I'm wrong. But the
Speaker 1: band from TV came on and he just jumped up
Speaker 1: because he walked to the corner. And that's the moment
Speaker 1: I walked out. I said, he got this. I said
Speaker 1: that the yalla's back on to y'alla and I went
Speaker 1: and subconsciously I see plun I said, I told you
Speaker 1: I was by grade capires like I didn't even bite you.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking that record. I'm thinking that record. What's just
Speaker 1: gonna be me and him. I'm taking me, gonna go
Speaker 1: back and forth, right, So I lay a verse. He
Speaker 1: walks out the room. I feel good about this verse.
Speaker 1: I lay a verse right, and then I go home.
Speaker 1: He has he has paper, he has rhymes on the
Speaker 1: paper already. Yes, I'm gonna just take this home. Money.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna fix it. I'm gonna get it right,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I'm like, alight, cool,
Speaker 1: he gonna go do what he do. Yes, records, all
Speaker 1: these guys are all the pros, right when you know,
Speaker 1: like I said, I got you, I wanted to change. Yeah. Hell,
Speaker 1: he's called me for months. I want to change my verse.
Speaker 1: And they heard and they started me. They got me.
Speaker 1: I was on. I was just doing that. This is
Speaker 1: not exactly this is exactly what that from TV. And
Speaker 1: I'm glad and Jada and God bless me, wish we
Speaker 1: had punt here in camp. But take the same thing.
Speaker 1: What happened was like I said, I didn't like the
Speaker 1: smell of cigarettes. I love smoking cigarettes. I didn't like
Speaker 1: the smell and we we go on the d We
Speaker 1: were the guys that when met him and Jungle only
Speaker 1: brothers came out. Yeah yeah, yeah, that's the only time
Speaker 1: Chill anyway leave. But this time I was like, you
Speaker 1: know what, fucking I went down stair in smoking Bowl
Speaker 1: game when I've seen, like I said, I've seen Grape
Speaker 1: of Pies. I just gave Pun what was considered a
Speaker 1: text back then. I think it's a two way page
Speaker 1: like bo pary Pies. I'm thinking there's seven Grape of
Speaker 1: Pies in the city. I'm not thinking he's gonna narrow
Speaker 1: down to the point that we're the real one. D
Speaker 1: f y. So as Nake starts to feel it, he's correct,
Speaker 1: I've walked out. When I walked out, I've seen Punt.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh shit, But like he's like, I'm
Speaker 1: thinking he just came to a grape pies that was it.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, all right, cool, my LECTI lady went
Speaker 1: back upstairs seeing Nate and I was like, yo, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm gonna get to this wanted to beat
Speaker 1: I was ready for. I had three other rhymes, but
Speaker 1: they were not One of these ships was to this beat.
Speaker 1: For that one. So I listened and I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: you know I can't poke with this right now. So
Speaker 1: I did tell Nick yo one love late left. I
Speaker 1: did not know Poe was coming coming. It comes up.
Speaker 1: He got his own food, butdget no, we're not closing
Speaker 1: the studio session. So I'm like, okay, go down the bowl.
Speaker 1: It's the fastest Puny verse I've ever seen lady in
Speaker 1: my life because pun usually take hours. But I guess
Speaker 1: like he wanted to spa with us. He poked us
Speaker 1: so fat. So I came back and I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: I tell the story mentowns. I'm gonna tell it again.
Speaker 1: And I was like, yo, yo, this record is for
Speaker 1: me a nature man. This is some crazy ship. And
Speaker 1: pun looked at me like you're gonna race ever too.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, that's like you're ever racing her verse.
Speaker 1: He listen to me again. He goes, come on, look
Speaker 1: at me face the first you go to race that
Speaker 1: verse pork chops and apple saut Do you want something
Speaker 1: like how yeah? Your engineer he loosened to the engineer.
Speaker 1: The engineers like he recorded actually is like you know
Speaker 1: you're not gonna make me deleted. He couldn't be recorded,
Speaker 1: so that so okay. Then Cam is that night, right,
Speaker 1: Bama TV. Fun can and they can, and then that's
Speaker 1: the only people we got. The next day Cam. I
Speaker 1: forget why Cam was downtown. I don't know. I just
Speaker 1: called to me, called me, or maybe Punk Carder was like,
Speaker 1: yo're stupid with Norman Cas like he's racing versus Come on,
Speaker 1: they all with you at that time, and I was,
Speaker 1: but I was like, fun the fresh you know, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm doing the whole time, writing a hook
Speaker 1: to it. I'm like, cool, didn't have no hope. I'm
Speaker 1: writing a hook to it. And I'm like damn. I'm
Speaker 1: like the way Nature ended this ship pause and Pun
Speaker 1: just jumped on it, and I'm like damn. And I
Speaker 1: know I can't send this ship to Swiss because I
Speaker 1: know he he he wants to certainly he's hooking cool.
Speaker 1: Then Cam came that night. This is the only awkward
Speaker 1: moment was I had to get Jada and Styles the
Speaker 1: next day. Yeah, and I didn't know which one was which.
Speaker 1: And this is crazy because I'm very close to Styles
Speaker 1: right now. I always tell the story I gave Styles Weed,
Speaker 1: and this is the time no one smokes personally, he
Speaker 1: don't pass back. He didn't passed. He didn't so I
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, this guy up and but
Speaker 1: it was history. But that's the thing was banned from TV.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't have been done if I'm leaving, wouldn't have been secured.
Speaker 1: And if you would have hated it or me I said,
Speaker 1: or just said not even hated you gotta said studio,
Speaker 1: that's not even hate. Like at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: if you would have said, you don't disrespect you know,
Speaker 1: norm ain't your book tomorrow like I would have had
Speaker 1: to have been like, I don't let me big up,
Speaker 1: pig you up. You could have been like, man, you
Speaker 1: know what, this is my time. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You got a War Report album, Get the fucking prom
Speaker 1: out of here, like I mean, in the better way
Speaker 1: you could have said it, just let me have my
Speaker 1: day and tomorrow you know I come. You were just
Speaker 1: like yo, I called the vibe and you didn't stop it.
Speaker 1: For that, I will always be thinking I'm old brothers.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I will always be thankful interview. But
Speaker 1: I will always be thinking just saying, you know, I
Speaker 1: knew that if I ever did this interview due to
Speaker 1: the fact that me and is stories are sold in
Speaker 1: the twine. You know what I mean. No matter what
Speaker 1: if if Sun said the buildings on fire, I'm coming
Speaker 1: with the holes. That's just how it goes. But I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lot though. You remember the time me and
Speaker 1: now I stole your record. Yeah, I came in there.
Speaker 1: I came in, I had a session. I walked in
Speaker 1: the session. Him and Nas have damn the three piece
Speaker 1: on my beat, and so so I'm like, get the
Speaker 1: funk out of here. First I left. I left. The
Speaker 1: guys are going there going hard on my after versus
Speaker 1: on my joint. I leave the studio, you know, And
Speaker 1: then they said, Yo, you gotta find a way on
Speaker 1: this record record. By this time they go, they traded shot.
Speaker 1: So I had to take one of Nas and one
Speaker 1: oft get me. Rick, I would tell the story a
Speaker 1: little bit better. I got you, but it was my
Speaker 1: sens rights your brother. You know what I'm saying, because
Speaker 1: because I'm I'm I'm moving around with these guys. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And at the same time, you know,
Speaker 1: these guys are younger than me, but they're making their
Speaker 1: own lane. They're making their lane every time they're making
Speaker 1: their own land, and they just took my beat. Lets
Speaker 1: stop lap, let's just stop laughing. Maybe maybe I can
Speaker 1: three verses a piece, was like original, I should gonna
Speaker 1: be got six verses of me like it's like fighting
Speaker 1: so well that it was again like no, because I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie. I gotta give this a regime up,
Speaker 1: Steve Stout. NAS track masters when it was an album
Speaker 1: were supposed to dedicate a whole energy to the album.
Speaker 1: You know that was that was it? So so what
Speaker 1: appum was? I just felt like Nate was just he
Speaker 1: was just didn't want to work that night. But me
Speaker 1: and NAS didn't even come to work that night. We
Speaker 1: just came to like chill. But then it's be play
Speaker 1: it's called and it was fucked up because me and
Speaker 1: I've never said that to each other at all. It
Speaker 1: was just a virgo ship. He looked at me. I
Speaker 1: looked at him. I was like, I wrote four balls
Speaker 1: already he was and they got but we was waiting
Speaker 1: for you to get tired to you like they got
Speaker 1: y'all gonna see yall to the mall type ship bro
Speaker 1: left right. What I'm saying that I think it's when
Speaker 1: you leave as the sign and every day. But we
Speaker 1: just looked like they're gonna keep it going. Just don't
Speaker 1: worry about the sign. I think it was me. If
Speaker 1: you look at the regular I think I'm the one
Speaker 1: of the first sentator, So sorry name if I think
Speaker 1: it was me. And and now I just looked at me,
Speaker 1: like what, and I said. We just kept going. And
Speaker 1: then the next day he was in the studio. Day
Speaker 1: was the It was amazing. Let's make a look at me,
Speaker 1: don't right? You know what I'm saying. Like I said,
Speaker 1: we didn't realize what were building, but we had guys
Speaker 1: that was basically creating in lane for me, showing me
Speaker 1: what was supposed to be. That's why twenty years later, motherfuck,
Speaker 1: we're still broken about it. You can laugh about it.
Speaker 1: It might be little things that I remember, the little
Speaker 1: things that he remember. You know. By then, the day
Speaker 1: I know that if anybody got my back, I got
Speaker 1: my back. Now I know the answer to this, but
Speaker 1: for lack of a m you know, the Nazis dropped
Speaker 1: the album. This album, I forget the name of the record,
Speaker 1: but want to ask, can you explain to the people.
Speaker 1: I know the answer, but can you explain to people?
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't necessarily know the answer. I know
Speaker 1: that it was it's his call. We're growing, we make
Speaker 1: records that we want to do. At the time when
Speaker 1: he was doing, he was wanted to do. UM. I
Speaker 1: didn't get the call, and I understand that I wasn't
Speaker 1: a part of the original from that's that's not a
Speaker 1: part of the original firm talk. So I don't get mad.
Speaker 1: I would prefer not to have got the call, then
Speaker 1: to have laid some dope bad ship and heard that yo,
Speaker 1: they took you off your or some crazy ship. So anytime,
Speaker 1: any time, anytime my guys strike, we strike. So I
Speaker 1: have no choice but to be happy because we're Rocket's
Speaker 1: Queen's bridged back on the map again. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's all kinds of things like that. I
Speaker 1: don't know what's what, what what happens from this day forward,
Speaker 1: but I'm not to do that walks around better because
Speaker 1: when you win, I win because our stories, our time
Speaker 1: we're together, we're all together, were fact that you see that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't go I can't tell you what to do
Speaker 1: with you. It's a business, Calle, This is a business.
Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, I'm happy for
Speaker 1: Mega because Mega didn't get the chance to do nothing.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, none of that ship. And
Speaker 1: that's my nigger, like for real, for real, I love
Speaker 1: a shout the Fox, shout to all that. But we
Speaker 1: all come from the same so we shouldn't be fucking
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I don't know what
Speaker 1: happens or what they're thinking about doing. Hopefully they're thinking
Speaker 1: about making bigger music in the future. But for me,
Speaker 1: I got music. I got my niggas, I got you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I got my team. I've been
Speaker 1: teamed up with my dude, so you know, we got
Speaker 1: about you know what I mean. I got my dude,
Speaker 1: Men's I got DCM, I got all kind of dudes.
Speaker 1: I got my dude. You know, we got nonprofit ship.
Speaker 1: I got my man in large amount. We got we're
Speaker 1: doing ship, you know what I mean. We're doing things
Speaker 1: we do we got to do. Like, yeah, we got
Speaker 1: last we got nonprofit ship going on on on on.
Speaker 1: I think I told a temption said that, Yo, we
Speaker 1: got sneaker, sneaker give out. You know, we're giving sneakers
Speaker 1: out to the kids to all kind of stuff up
Speaker 1: for the community, all of that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So we've grown, you know what I mean. We we
Speaker 1: got grades and all that, but we were we got
Speaker 1: the great head games. This is that question I bring
Speaker 1: Alcalou on that. You remember Prodigy got high, my studio
Speaker 1: fell out and fell as like yo, you know, check
Speaker 1: it out. God bless even want me to talk about
Speaker 1: this story. Yeah, one day was in the studio, was
Speaker 1: just me, him in Prodigy and just you know, shout
Speaker 1: out and shout out to Prodigy rest in peace and
Speaker 1: just just front of me and probably staying in back
Speaker 1: and we're smoking and having a good time. And that
Speaker 1: one I kept hitting up with that one. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: kept the cups. He's gonna be the record out of it.
Speaker 1: Do right, it's me you and me? Right? Is it
Speaker 1: the record? Yeah? What's it called? Cold Bloody Killer? Cold
Speaker 1: Bloody Killers are bringing out gonna have it. Ship with Dope,
Speaker 1: ship bro, super ship Sons with us, hang Hang, shout
Speaker 1: out my nigga men a shot out, Nino, shout out
Speaker 1: on the large amount shot shout out track, everybody's shouting out,
Speaker 1: Sunday shot out, motherfucker ready shot out, come on, sit down,
Speaker 1: come on, come on, come on, come on, come on,
Speaker 1: come on, come on, come on, let's do it. I
Speaker 1: didn't realize because he didn't take the mask. I didn't
Speaker 1: know with you hanged gave me a pink everything I'm going,
Speaker 1: Could they be here? Remember that time he was in
Speaker 1: the studio, um and it was it was you and
Speaker 1: it was shakes, but it was shaks. I know. I mean,
Speaker 1: I remember one time I pulled up on two fifth
Speaker 1: and he was just in the car, lay back like
Speaker 1: this with the windows down, poking, blump like what they remember. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I see. I used to bump into you a little
Speaker 1: and stuff because I moved like that, moved like that.
Speaker 1: I used to be like because scram put me onto
Speaker 1: these Yes, we're back, motherfucking in the flesh. We got
Speaker 1: the motherfucking legends. Man, I ain't gonna lot of this
Speaker 1: guy when you talk about he's been down, been here,
Speaker 1: been around and still doing it and not going. No
Speaker 1: motherfucker where we got alcalog houck. They don't be assassins.
Speaker 1: I finally made it. Yeah, I sell a vista, so yo,
Speaker 1: you've been like when I asked sometimes I asked, I
Speaker 1: tell people the different errors they've been involved with, Like
Speaker 1: you've been involved with Everyone's like when did you get
Speaker 1: started in this game? Well, you know as a kid.
Speaker 1: You know, my godfather Jose used to run above of
Speaker 1: reggae shop on Picking and Rockaway called Soul Shock. It's
Speaker 1: a very legend date New York. Yes, that's my godfather's spot. Yes,
Speaker 1: Russ and Jose if you know them, I was, that's
Speaker 1: my godfather. So I used to be in there, like yo,
Speaker 1: see big Daddy Canes. That's a signic rock him. It
Speaker 1: was like family, it will all be there everybody Russells sentence,
Speaker 1: everybody like be at that shot? Literally did you have
Speaker 1: to even the six something? Now? But that's that's that's
Speaker 1: some real Daddy came. I mean, I'm just thinking about
Speaker 1: the artist, Like Daddy came into the roughest hoods and
Speaker 1: everyone likes the Browns. I'm from brown Yeah, I'm from Brownsfield,
Speaker 1: Big Daddy. Everybody have a move my solo. I'm Sean
Speaker 1: Price rest Seance And we were kids, you know, we
Speaker 1: played in the sand box. That's how I met and
Speaker 1: we traded. Corlico Castriges really liked yeah vision, Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: He was I didn't have vision go on his house,
Speaker 1: and he was a kid who was a dream that
Speaker 1: I didn't have all the carts. So I used to
Speaker 1: like trade you know what I'm saying with Don, He's like, Yo,
Speaker 1: let your this one. Now, you let me that. That's
Speaker 1: how I met him. But hip hop was always in
Speaker 1: my family's music. No town all that, you know, like
Speaker 1: you know, just you know, that was like the thing
Speaker 1: like in the neighborhood. You know, you go to block
Speaker 1: parties and childen and saying dyke, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and you see the DJ's come out my neighborhood from Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: I'm from East New York Brown. I think the world
Speaker 1: thought was born that's Brooklyn. It was not until we
Speaker 1: got a propoc city broken. I'm part of the people.
Speaker 1: Got to learn that. I know. I know I go
Speaker 1: from with Mike Tyson, Shannon Briggs from where from from?
Speaker 1: That's my people's old about this Champion block that's so
Speaker 1: sick Champ. I went just with Ship the Brigs two
Speaker 1: days ago and that's my brother. So, like I said,
Speaker 1: I you know, just to fast forward with nature just said,
Speaker 1: you know a lot of people know you from the
Speaker 1: Purple City thing, you know what I'm saying. So, how
Speaker 1: did you go from like being a Browns reel do
Speaker 1: to messing purpose? When I moved to the Bronx, my,
Speaker 1: you know, I had like a crave up there with
Speaker 1: my little studio. And then that's when I was working
Speaker 1: with Shawn Price and we um. You know, I had
Speaker 1: like this little deal with Game Records Jonathan Scheckter this
Speaker 1: after yeah, yeah, yeah, that's just like when I became atalog.
Speaker 1: You know, God reinvent yourself in the Chicks on the
Speaker 1: on the on the cover of the Voteles. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was gonna do a reinventional stage. And then me and
Speaker 1: Sean started doing these little songs together, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. He asked me to give him some beats.
Speaker 1: He started collaborating, and the next thing you know, he
Speaker 1: um put out on monkey Bars and one song on
Speaker 1: it was called Rises to the Top. That song was
Speaker 1: on Grand That photo three was so over seventeen me.
Speaker 1: Hold on, I'm on that soundtrack to the video game.
Speaker 1: You know they made um that's the first time they
Speaker 1: it was. He was able to end the rack and like,
Speaker 1: you know, go outside the storylines and beat somebody up
Speaker 1: and do you know you know, you know, so when
Speaker 1: they had so when they had the when they made
Speaker 1: the soundtrack, they had to look for hip hop artists
Speaker 1: and him and me. If you look at it right now,
Speaker 1: you buy the game right now. My name is on
Speaker 1: it and his name is on it too. Let me
Speaker 1: ask you, let me see what it up to you
Speaker 1: back to it's crazy that treat you really on it? Um,
Speaker 1: all right? The first album was All Seasons. Yeah, for
Speaker 1: all Seasons, baby, All Seasons. Now, that was the album
Speaker 1: he was working on the Bisville all that was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's my very first album. Um, what had happened, you know,
Speaker 1: because it's sorry to be on that note already, but um, yeah,
Speaker 1: the album came out in two thousands. But what had
Speaker 1: happened was the album was finished in so a lot
Speaker 1: of the so a lot of the songs that came
Speaker 1: out on the album were actually heard already. They were
Speaker 1: they were they wound up on mixtapes without the choruses
Speaker 1: on them, and and and you know, I understand that
Speaker 1: the game was kind of a little little tricky. It
Speaker 1: was tricky. So when we put the album out, the
Speaker 1: songs was already two years old. And so I'm trying
Speaker 1: to convince the people that it's just dope, and um.
Speaker 1: We had a lot of problems when it came down
Speaker 1: to create my first album because it was sample clearances,
Speaker 1: it was, it was, it was songs that was released premature,
Speaker 1: it was, it was. It was a lot of you know,
Speaker 1: crazy ship. So when we put the album out, it
Speaker 1: was already fighting the battle because the songs had already
Speaker 1: been heard and some of the songs that I was
Speaker 1: banking on was either wasn't cleared or they was released
Speaker 1: or whatever. So so we went from you know, sugar
Speaker 1: the ship that fast, and went from and went from
Speaker 1: being this guy that they you know, projecting to be
Speaker 1: the guy to hold on that dropping the album that
Speaker 1: we heard already and we said the time like he
Speaker 1: was better with the games. It was very very very
Speaker 1: well now about the game with the guys that were
Speaker 1: kind of I was dealing with. I didn't understand, you know,
Speaker 1: being able to deliver on time and to to to
Speaker 1: then it was the business. So I over recorded. I
Speaker 1: recorded like maybe two albums were from material and some
Speaker 1: ship wasn't clean and some ship was played already and
Speaker 1: it was different versions of things. It was a lot
Speaker 1: of problems when it came down to the mind. So
Speaker 1: when it finally did land, it was like, hey, I
Speaker 1: heard just already. It was a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of the hype had died down. So it's kind of
Speaker 1: dating exactly, and so you know we ran into that
Speaker 1: type of ship. But it was it was you got
Speaker 1: you ever the time. It was just bit old, just
Speaker 1: like you know one question. The one thing that problem
Speaker 1: that was a problem for me when it came down
Speaker 1: to that was being a current event kind of guy,
Speaker 1: being shock class. Let's go, yeah, you give me one
Speaker 1: what you know. The problem the problem that came with
Speaker 1: that was like since I was like a current event
Speaker 1: kind of guy, if I waited too long, it got
Speaker 1: too old. You got too old. You gotta talk. You
Speaker 1: got certain because that that was that was serious. That
Speaker 1: was the key to your ship. Like you you were
Speaker 1: talking about like like like certain things that happened to
Speaker 1: the balls. So if you got we spend pep. So
Speaker 1: that was the problem when it came down the same
Speaker 1: dates and saying certain ships. So you know that that
Speaker 1: was my ship. I had to learn that. You know,
Speaker 1: that was cool. This guy right here when you shot
Speaker 1: that we're gonna don't get your shot shot Booze Brothers,
Speaker 1: what up. I'm gonna keep you one hundred. But you
Speaker 1: don't know me, no, like you know me like I
Speaker 1: come from that demo tape era. You know, you know
Speaker 1: when you know, just like you know you got me.
Speaker 1: I never stopped fighting. The industry is like some kind
Speaker 1: of different brotherhood now and I never stopped fighting. That
Speaker 1: just what my aunt showed me some equipment whatever it
Speaker 1: is ntc whatever that was. He was one of those
Speaker 1: guys that make the beach. And I'm gonna it's a
Speaker 1: competition at the same time for me, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: try to, you know, get it in with you. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna either calling at you, I'm gonna trying to check
Speaker 1: you off there. That's where about. And I feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, I learned that from you know. It's being
Speaker 1: you know, like you know, shot to Todder for shotting
Speaker 1: me out on here, shout to Connelly. They know me,
Speaker 1: they know how I used to be out there waiting
Speaker 1: a battle. You waiting, You're waiting for you at the
Speaker 1: end of the stage, and I was hungry cat even
Speaker 1: with dots effects, you know, like I used to see them.
Speaker 1: You know at O G. I remember at O G.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like in a bulldog. I
Speaker 1: remember one times at Cherley City and he was at
Speaker 1: the Boys Club and I was like black stage, wait
Speaker 1: just you know, hungry, little kid, little kid, a little kid,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And I just wanted to
Speaker 1: get on you take the hip hopa take it this fall.
Speaker 1: Yeah something, It's been my dream something since I've been
Speaker 1: a kid. It's been my dream. Used to used to
Speaker 1: when Talleng shows of my home, He's like shout the
Speaker 1: top dollar from Brownsville, like like like he was in
Speaker 1: Puerto Rican To be clear, Yeah, I mean that's a culture,
Speaker 1: that's not a race. I'm African. My great great grandmother African.
Speaker 1: He you know, that's a whole another story. But feel me,
Speaker 1: I am here. You know, I am who my ancestors are.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, we all who are ancestors are.
Speaker 1: And that's probably the most deepest thing I can say
Speaker 1: right now, because you know, all this is instill didn't
Speaker 1: be trying to just trying to make something good out
Speaker 1: of it. You know, a kid from the ghetto, kid
Speaker 1: I never had nothing, you know, and I realized, like
Speaker 1: then so many of us come from that, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and shout the Cavia dreams because you know,
Speaker 1: you don't care that the whole left that that that's
Speaker 1: that's that's one of my inspirations right there, because he
Speaker 1: took me in when I had no brothers, nobody, you know,
Speaker 1: we just street dudes, and you know, like you know,
Speaker 1: I come from that knowledge, wisdom understanding that one twenty
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like that righteous moment in
Speaker 1: your life when you ain't really got nobody and you
Speaker 1: gotta find that solution. And there's a lot of people
Speaker 1: out you're hurting right now. So I'm trying to be
Speaker 1: that good inspirational obspiration. Whatever I can't do, be that
Speaker 1: greatness in each other's lives because I did it for PMB.
Speaker 1: You know when you broke up with E. P. M. D.
Speaker 1: I wand up making rough rugg in the row form.
Speaker 1: You know what het in to deal with relativity for
Speaker 1: a million dollars a lot of positive y in the room.
Speaker 1: So you said, you said you did MD what he
Speaker 1: broke up with. Yeah, I've stepped in as the producer
Speaker 1: and wind up coming in and started producing because it
Speaker 1: was the main producers. I was producing with Onyx at first,
Speaker 1: That's what I wanted to talk about doing the beat.
Speaker 1: After after they felt out with shot skills. God bless
Speaker 1: your dad, because y'all have get the flamm and all that.
Speaker 1: I wind up working on last days any vocals. I
Speaker 1: mean I I was supposed to be signing, honest, I was.
Speaker 1: I was bounding everybody for them, but at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, it was like politics with def Jam
Speaker 1: and them and God blessed depth Dad, J M J.
Speaker 1: You know, it just happened to me a couple of
Speaker 1: area arenas because I felt like I was just you know,
Speaker 1: the bones Malone. You know who he is, Bones bloone,
Speaker 1: shot the bone baloone. He said, yo At, he made
Speaker 1: a lot of these dudes great. You got on eight
Speaker 1: teams and made them great. He was like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: compare myself to a player that got traded a couple
Speaker 1: of teams. You know what I'm saying. But like in
Speaker 1: the NBA stat style of speaking, you know, I've been
Speaker 1: on a couple of great teams like the Lakers. You
Speaker 1: know what I was like, I think to be able
Speaker 1: to wrap and I got him. I got him the
Speaker 1: championships on his own. You're able to oh yeah, we
Speaker 1: can't do that. But but the able to be a
Speaker 1: producers different, you know? And that's you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Because I could DJ too. So when you make himples
Speaker 1: for yourself, do you never think about another producer? Or yes,
Speaker 1: I work with everybody I can at the accessible moment,
Speaker 1: if I could reach out to you and I got
Speaker 1: a vibe because me, you know, we all get weird
Speaker 1: care at the table. How many of us, even though
Speaker 1: we love hip hop and we dedicated our life to
Speaker 1: hip hop, can do hip hop in the house? Can't
Speaker 1: do hip hop in the house? Well let me you
Speaker 1: mean by like a house, like, yeah, I can't. I
Speaker 1: can't dumb and let me tell you something right and
Speaker 1: still make hipps the way it's supposed to be in
Speaker 1: the house or what do we need each other? Buster?
Speaker 1: It is a good example because he is able to
Speaker 1: not let himself like I think he gotta. He don't
Speaker 1: even work with older artists. He works with younger artists
Speaker 1: so he can stay young. You gotta gotta understand the
Speaker 1: game now, like you gotta. You can't use yesterday's times
Speaker 1: to win it. You know you can't use yesterday's Memphis
Speaker 1: to winners today times excuse me, and I get him.
Speaker 1: I mean, whatever works for you works for you. But
Speaker 1: if you're in the crib and you got your pro
Speaker 1: to set up, man utilize because a lot of dudes
Speaker 1: in Africa that's doing way less than they're doing, and
Speaker 1: they're doing them how. I just look at me as
Speaker 1: a person like, look, I used to beat box and
Speaker 1: wish I had a drum machine. I'm the same dude
Speaker 1: that's still beat boxing. You want to you don't say
Speaker 1: one of your biggest records, Ghetto Girl? What's your biggest record? Oh? Man,
Speaker 1: I got a lot of big records. I mean as
Speaker 1: a wrapper, yeah. Problem. Well, Ghetto Girl was like my
Speaker 1: you know, my record that but industry made. It was
Speaker 1: not what I mean hold on period. It was something
Speaker 1: that they wanted me to be that I didn't want
Speaker 1: me to become. It was one of those moments where
Speaker 1: it was like, oh, this is the record that we're
Speaker 1: ready to put the dollars behind and I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I thought you wanted to put it behind the album
Speaker 1: to trick me. See they trick you. They made you
Speaker 1: think you a star. Then they did you didn't get
Speaker 1: your album and then they're like, oh, like, we want
Speaker 1: to push this sick. They don't want to push the album.
Speaker 1: They want to push what's gonna make money for them.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that at the time. I was very
Speaker 1: very young when I signed that deal. Out eighteen labels
Speaker 1: came from me through my source mag magazine um unsigned
Speaker 1: hype like it was like it was like, oh ship grown,
Speaker 1: I'm like property round, I'm property now because because because
Speaker 1: the magazine put me in the unsigned hype column. Now
Speaker 1: old eight scene label Pommy Door, Warner Brothers, Tommy Boy.
Speaker 1: I went with Tommy Boy, and I should have never
Speaker 1: did that. On my first sign with with Monica Lench,
Speaker 1: I signed with them and that was the biggest mistake
Speaker 1: I ever man in my life. Know what, he's nothing.
Speaker 1: And then I got back on my grind, released me
Speaker 1: back on my grind. Then a lady uh signed me.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Sylvia Rohne signed me to East West and
Speaker 1: that's when I wass gettle girl. And then I was
Speaker 1: resurrected one year later. How the funk You're gonna get
Speaker 1: dropped and get a deal later? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: I was I would think a lot. I think I
Speaker 1: love because you gave me another chance. Know that you
Speaker 1: know I didn't because let me tell you something about
Speaker 1: this industry. It's way it's way too you know you
Speaker 1: look at you look at the game or prior artists,
Speaker 1: look at all Michael Jackson and anybody else's career that
Speaker 1: came before me, who got us here, who we sampled
Speaker 1: and ship, what they had to go through. You think
Speaker 1: I'm grateful that I had to go through this ship
Speaker 1: because they went through way worship ship and I had to.
Speaker 1: We're gonna all go through shipness and you know his house, dude,
Speaker 1: that's how you you you you you show up. You
Speaker 1: don't gotta live on other people's means in this game.
Speaker 1: Who who made you part of the who made you
Speaker 1: feel like he was accepted? Nobody wanted wanted you in
Speaker 1: the game at the first place, because you know, you
Speaker 1: look at hip hop when it first started. Ain't want
Speaker 1: this ship. This ship was a fat f a d
Speaker 1: that ain't gonna last. They used to say, this ship
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna last. Remember that real hip hop Like I'm
Speaker 1: a like a rock and roll artist at the same time,
Speaker 1: but they say this ship wasn't gonna last. Come on,
Speaker 1: let let's take a let's take a shot, and Mama
Speaker 1: wanted to take take take you. I said the same thing.
Speaker 1: Did you ever feel like you were black ball? And
Speaker 1: come on, you wanna drink champs as well? No? I didn't.
Speaker 1: I never felt I was a black ball. Um, I'm
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a different und to due with. I
Speaker 1: salute dude from the back. I'm champion. I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: let's go, let's win. We're winning no matter what. It's
Speaker 1: not a really numbers game with me. Um, But I
Speaker 1: do felt that. I do feel that it was a
Speaker 1: time since I was dealing with what I was dealing
Speaker 1: with and the people I was there with that. You know,
Speaker 1: it's kind of hard when you're dealing with a bigger artist,
Speaker 1: when you're dealing with an artist that guys that you know,
Speaker 1: we're just so happened to be linked to somebody that's
Speaker 1: considered to be one of the Tope sept seas like
Speaker 1: like like, yeah, it's not like it's some side ship
Speaker 1: right now. But I want to. I want to. I
Speaker 1: want to give you the opportunity. Man, I don't want to.
Speaker 1: You got the opport to listen to me. You're my man.
Speaker 1: I haven't spoke his son in um like twenty years.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I'm gonna get the honey. You're
Speaker 1: my man. I know that that's your man. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You have the opportunity to call him
Speaker 1: right now. You know what I'm saying. He doesn't owe
Speaker 1: me no explanation, no apologies, no nothing would you do
Speaker 1: with business, is honey? I keep it a hunted with me.
Speaker 1: I'm not a better dude. You gave me the alley.
Speaker 1: You my nigger of a life time. I still get
Speaker 1: money from what you we did want to Yes, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna keeping a haunted Can we bring can we bring
Speaker 1: it back? Let me take the opportunity to do a
Speaker 1: lot of things. You can do a lot of things.
Speaker 1: So I'm not the type of person that's I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna chase you because I'm still doing music, i still
Speaker 1: have a family, i still have a life. I'm right
Speaker 1: my fact. I'm okay. Trust me, it's not about that.
Speaker 1: And you don't only no no, no, no, no nothing.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. What you do when you win,
Speaker 1: I win because our story is just tied together. When
Speaker 1: you win, I win. You know what I'm saying. When
Speaker 1: you take ahead, I take a head. He said. Let
Speaker 1: me ask you that what was because if you call
Speaker 1: my now, what would the answer. I don't know. We're
Speaker 1: gonna put this end of this right now. Listen to
Speaker 1: in the moment because no one understands the mega thing
Speaker 1: we understood because I felt like you took a shot
Speaker 1: man right let me outside look at it. At the
Speaker 1: end of the day, I'm insider, but I'm always an
Speaker 1: outside of because that's your hood, that's y'all ship. So
Speaker 1: what was the problem? Like I never really knew. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you something. Um when it came down to
Speaker 1: being real ship, I don't walk around better and I'm
Speaker 1: not like I said, what you do is what you
Speaker 1: do right for the past due to the factory from
Speaker 1: the same hood, people knows that there's always a little
Speaker 1: something more than with probably being shown. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I don't hold no brudgets. But it wasn't
Speaker 1: the beginning. I felt that I don't even keep with
Speaker 1: a hunting. I think what I was supposed to do.
Speaker 1: I try to hold it down and try to glue
Speaker 1: ship together and do what I was supposed to do.
Speaker 1: But in the beginning, UM, I never felt that it
Speaker 1: was a hundred percent on my side. Anyway, if you
Speaker 1: look at the actual cover of the front album, I
Speaker 1: was never really show I'm like kind of blur it out.
Speaker 1: It was. I don't know. I don't think that I
Speaker 1: was good. I was supposed to be or I was
Speaker 1: supposed to actually affect people. But I mean, I'm hip hop.
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, I'm never going away
Speaker 1: ever needed me. I mean we could sit down and
Speaker 1: talk back the end of the day that I don't
Speaker 1: think the business was set up straight, and I think
Speaker 1: the hood ship could kind of get wiped away at
Speaker 1: twenty years. It's twenty years at the end. I don't
Speaker 1: walk around trying to fucking throw dirt the name and
Speaker 1: when I went, we come from the same. It will
Speaker 1: never change. It's beautiful. It's beautiful, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's not like when and when Sun dropped and when
Speaker 1: they dropped the album and they did the thing. It's
Speaker 1: not like they took shots to me and then I respect,
Speaker 1: I respect. I wanted that ship and I'm really happy
Speaker 1: from Cold Mega to fucking do with eight million dollars
Speaker 1: because if we didn't go that way ever heard of me?
Speaker 1: Meant it for a second, it didn't go and give
Speaker 1: me the opportunity of a lifetime to do what I do.
Speaker 1: We brothers, we go through. Do I make senver tying?
Speaker 1: You got talking girl up to the day, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't work around. I'm supporting it. If you win,
Speaker 1: I win. Come on, brother, let's go. Because we always
Speaker 1: talked about toys. We always talked about money that could
Speaker 1: have been made. You could have shut of water. And
Speaker 1: I think at the end of the day, it's not
Speaker 1: too many pieces that's missing, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I'm here, I'm telling you. People are a lot of
Speaker 1: people gonna watch this, you know what I mean. A
Speaker 1: lot of people gonna watch this, you know I mean.
Speaker 1: And so whatever whatever, if the cold get made, if
Speaker 1: it don't get made, I'm good. I'm still gonna make music.
Speaker 1: Check me out, you know what I mean. Twenty years
Speaker 1: and a lot of ship. Ain't no love of loss,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That's importantly, that's the most
Speaker 1: important thing about because you don't saying what we trying
Speaker 1: to say. Because even me and not even when he
Speaker 1: sat here, you know, we just didn't avoid our discrepancy,
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying. This is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I was just trying to say, what was it? Like,
Speaker 1: you don't say, you don't even that it was amazing ship.
Speaker 1: You could put your finger on it and say, this
Speaker 1: is what happened. Because I love niggas like brothers. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. We were brothers were born, and
Speaker 1: that's what's said. You know what I mean. I lost
Speaker 1: my mom's you know what I mean. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean. But me and John used to hang out
Speaker 1: in the cred We used to be in his mom's crid.
Speaker 1: We smoke, me, drink whatever whatever when that that was then,
Speaker 1: And so if you don't talk about it, you don't
Speaker 1: have to talk about it. It happened. These are my dudes.
Speaker 1: I'm grateful for the position that I was put in.
Speaker 1: This gave me the alley you for life, for life.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna they don't have to necessarily be a
Speaker 1: sad story. I hate when they can talk about it's
Speaker 1: nothing to talk about me. But I'm going on, what's
Speaker 1: what's happening. He's still here, still follow me. That's why
Speaker 1: it's actually got an album out today called the Guards
Speaker 1: right now see that yall. That's y'all got here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: fair shows. I love the cameras. It's my naked right here.
Speaker 1: Show me cracks the biggest in the game. This is
Speaker 1: my naked right here. You crack. You promised me. I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna talk about it right now, going to blow up,
Speaker 1: blow up up three Tis said blow yeah, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, be down, Come on, goddamn crack, Come
Speaker 1: on baby. If you would do to this show, even
Speaker 1: though it'll give us credit, not real, we would do
Speaker 1: this show, you'll get credits. Crack. I don't want to
Speaker 1: shoot on two Yankee shot on too, and my tis
Speaker 1: anyone Tis Money said out he's my brothers right here.
Speaker 1: I met a little. He's been actual showing sneak showing.
Speaker 1: Mandy's been good man sneaking right in the game. Ain't
Speaker 1: showing man sneaking. Shot Fat Joe like they're cracking. Oh God,
Speaker 1: cracking a win yo. I love you, my bro, yeah,
Speaker 1: saying something I don't put up baby, love you, baby,
Speaker 1: I see you're like he showed like seven pens and
Speaker 1: sneaking just feel shok track crack crack, yo, But yo,
Speaker 1: I know I think that ship. I know anybody over in,
Speaker 1: you know, like on the person level, now the industry level,
Speaker 1: and that's why it's good. You know, shout to my
Speaker 1: car evident. You know, I go back. You know she
Speaker 1: had lection out here to the nation and the brothers
Speaker 1: Dope Dope DJ man Maker check them out. How someone
Speaker 1: that just showed up the drink Champce because y'all just
Speaker 1: like keep the keep it RELI than what the word
Speaker 1: it means, like I just keep going in. You'll just
Speaker 1: keep going in. And you know we love that bro
Speaker 1: hip hop. You know, I don't let go. I gotta
Speaker 1: throw out the next to nature next to you talking
Speaker 1: about ship that y'all went through, and I can't let
Speaker 1: you do that in first you know, my girl, Oh
Speaker 1: but something say something anyway, I just want to say.
Speaker 1: Let me just say something. The ship that you contributed
Speaker 1: to hip hop alcohol eid off Man and thank you.
Speaker 1: You know, it's unrecognizable, man, it's recognizable. What I mean
Speaker 1: the man like when I'm in it's unrecognizable with the
Speaker 1: with the with the with the faith and me just
Speaker 1: looking at you and your face and your eyes and
Speaker 1: how much it's the same way hip hop. That's the
Speaker 1: thing is like, we don't we don't like about you know,
Speaker 1: the numbers and all that is great, you know what
Speaker 1: we're calling we care about representing hip hop. I got
Speaker 1: some more spade um, you know what we care about
Speaker 1: representing hip hop or keep telling the stories of hip
Speaker 1: hop and just keeping just keeping that ship. And it's
Speaker 1: great that this is our arrow is my Yeah, I
Speaker 1: never got an alcohol beat. You was Hollywood at one point.
Speaker 1: I'm no, it was sad. I didn't you give me
Speaker 1: a yea? We got that like a dozen nunstand one beat.
Speaker 1: I walked to this to day he picked it. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I called it. I said, I said, hold and no,
Speaker 1: I ain't even want the bread now, captain trying to
Speaker 1: make us get to work. I don't worry. I got you.
Speaker 1: You know you don't know, damn well, let me ask,
Speaker 1: let me ask nature. So now what did you know?
Speaker 1: It's because we got Bromance, Yes from the y'all. Y'all
Speaker 1: now wild Brimlance. That's that's still on the major as well.
Speaker 1: Now that was independent. That was that was like, yo,
Speaker 1: we're no longer on a major label. Let me trying
Speaker 1: to deliver something independent. But I had my dudes all
Speaker 1: around me because when the first album, I didn't really
Speaker 1: have features. I had one feature which was was NAS.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I had NAS and at
Speaker 1: that time, what the song ultimate hum track masters? But
Speaker 1: let me ask, let me ask as a fan. I
Speaker 1: swear to god, this is not in a r E.
Speaker 1: When the first album came out and it was just
Speaker 1: that was it? It was just NAS? Was that something
Speaker 1: track masters told you that's all your need is NA? NA.
Speaker 1: I was kind of reading and turned into let me
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about someone. I just wanted to
Speaker 1: be everybody what I'm saying, thinking about answering this because
Speaker 1: tell the truth. This is like you know I first
Speaker 1: of all, what's that song? Don't protect nobody start to
Speaker 1: no one about the numbers that was spent. I was
Speaker 1: kind of tight. The budget, Yeah, the budget right, the
Speaker 1: budget part changes one thing, which is your records. Let's
Speaker 1: just everybody understand what's going on. What it's having a
Speaker 1: re forecast. That's the word refecast. I love the forecast
Speaker 1: with the refecast that made you run outcast was the
Speaker 1: podcast that made you run out? And we boecasts that
Speaker 1: have to read budget what you're doing. That's that's the
Speaker 1: second mortgas. That's the second mortgat. The budget that didn't
Speaker 1: want you to tell this reason you think about the
Speaker 1: budget days will spend re forecasting, we recreate it, and
Speaker 1: we'll make a whole other budget for the budget for
Speaker 1: the new vision. Every forecasting a couple of times that
Speaker 1: might always went green basically ran out, and you always
Speaker 1: want green. Green's son. I sat there and watched the funk,
Speaker 1: and I got a piece of paper that told me
Speaker 1: that I owed one point something million times only showed
Speaker 1: me that you're going too fast. Let's all right, what
Speaker 1: happened to say again? When I finished re forecast and
Speaker 1: had a kid new money, that means that that means
Speaker 1: all the days that we sat all the days that
Speaker 1: we sat there, and all let's say, all the days
Speaker 1: that we sat there and smoking drunk and probably rented
Speaker 1: studio equipment that didn't finish the record, and we had
Speaker 1: food budgets, and we had entourages, and we had the
Speaker 1: whole ship. Showed me, you have this bill that says
Speaker 1: you owe one point something million dollars all commerces in
Speaker 1: the right places, and you're saying to yourself, how because
Speaker 1: it's mad days. I'm going home. I'm like pitt Off,
Speaker 1: I got a quite new how you knew? We knew
Speaker 1: because people weren't raping the budget. I'm being honest. This
Speaker 1: is what I gotta pick up. Tragedy could trash trash,
Speaker 1: tragedy could dicty traded us pause sounded crazy, but I
Speaker 1: didn't know. You know, don't play what studio times, don't
Speaker 1: play around with it. So we was like what. So
Speaker 1: we would go in the crib we were sitting there
Speaker 1: and be like, yo, all right, this is the b alright, cool, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's right to that being poem would sit
Speaker 1: there right to the whole ship. So by the time
Speaker 1: we came to the student, we would knock it out.
Speaker 1: And I knew this because of that studio budget, you're
Speaker 1: not going into it. This is what I said, one thing,
Speaker 1: one way, then they don't finish. I got you, I
Speaker 1: got problems. But so I was like what. And at
Speaker 1: first I used to be like why we gotta practice
Speaker 1: and rehearse because that's what it was the mentality back then.
Speaker 1: And let me tell you something, I respect that ship.
Speaker 1: I've never been a has studio, but I recorded seven
Speaker 1: records because I don't know how to play with studios top,
Speaker 1: but I'm sorry, which was about to say, can I
Speaker 1: can I get one question? Let me get him and
Speaker 1: then we come right back to you. I promise you.
Speaker 1: But we're rocking you. You got your motherfucker's you wrote
Speaker 1: to you? Baby, were watching you looking good. I recorded
Speaker 1: this album that I did for track matters for all
Speaker 1: seasons without having any brahms written. That means this whole
Speaker 1: album was recorded on the spot. As we go in
Speaker 1: the studio and smoke some weed. We're recording the classic
Speaker 1: album without any without you, no week one point. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you. If you I'll tell you what your bud
Speaker 1: it was seven hundred thousands. First of alerted you were
Speaker 1: spending plenty of nights out. We spend plenty of nights
Speaker 1: having soldio back smash. We haven't we have a right track.
Speaker 1: We're having yips, we're having fucking monks when we have
Speaker 1: to what we're spending over money. We haven't spending all
Speaker 1: kind of money. So um, we were tragedy. He told
Speaker 1: not to spend up. What I'm saying is thank the tragedy,
Speaker 1: Thank you tragedy, thank you. The labels weren't fleeting your costs.
Speaker 1: On top of that, it's a stipulation. It's a stipulation
Speaker 1: in my contract to say that I'm signed to I'm
Speaker 1: signed to producers, So it's a stipulation of my contract
Speaker 1: is saying that I have to have a certain amount
Speaker 1: of beats from the same producers that that signed me,
Speaker 1: so I get the money, and having to pass the
Speaker 1: money off to the same people that gave me the money.
Speaker 1: Come the love, I'm gonna take care God. I got
Speaker 1: the money, and it's a stipulation that I have to
Speaker 1: pass some of his money back to the same people
Speaker 1: that I got it from after they charged any charging
Speaker 1: back charging a thousand of beat. The same people that
Speaker 1: work with Will Smith and Mariah Carry and nays and
Speaker 1: did you write Kobe Bryant smiles and when it was
Speaker 1: doing Kobe, they're doing Kobe Bryant. They're doing to the
Speaker 1: circuits Kobe. No, I didn't get one. I don't get one,
Speaker 1: but I'm around. You got you got a copy though,
Speaker 1: but I'm around. I don't think he has one. Went
Speaker 1: with can't fill last ship. That's my ship, Shine. That
Speaker 1: is the name of the record, right, Yes, you've forgotten,
Speaker 1: but shout out to the people that forget the record
Speaker 1: that got we got pa ship take going for the team.
Speaker 1: We do what we do and we still keep pushing.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, and we're here. It's all
Speaker 1: of stories. So my drink Champs could go five hours,
Speaker 1: but we didn't here for that. In between both I
Speaker 1: could drink I support. I don't drink out of I
Speaker 1: don't want to do something like that support because I
Speaker 1: can't take take you get the things that I can't
Speaker 1: do us. But I'm going, I'm saying, but you know, no, no,
Speaker 1: I think yeah, I don't see an album five songs
Speaker 1: right now? Has it his studios? Has gonn right now.
Speaker 1: I came to Miami yesterday and since I've been in Miami,
Speaker 1: I probably shot like five videos. That's the way to
Speaker 1: see that should have been happening. The next day I
Speaker 1: shot five is you don't do that number? Let me ask,
Speaker 1: Let me ask you. I got to ask you. Get
Speaker 1: it done. I got straight up to ask you. As
Speaker 1: a Carol O. The rumor was there could be anybody lyrically,
Speaker 1: anybody that nys to get on the record wood Speed
Speaker 1: the lyrically still, but I gotta ask any time before,
Speaker 1: like nature was lazy a lot of times. Stuff for
Speaker 1: this the name, that's the that's the that's the theory
Speaker 1: about me because like I said, due to the fact
Speaker 1: that I wasn't coming to the studio where pre prepared
Speaker 1: songs and rhymes, it might take me a minute to
Speaker 1: write these rhymes in the studio. So this so because
Speaker 1: because it might took a minute to write this record,
Speaker 1: they might say nature's lazy. It's not that the nature's lazy,
Speaker 1: it's just the nature's home situation. It's not really good
Speaker 1: as far as blocking everything out and and diving into
Speaker 1: this music. You know, it's not that's not that's not
Speaker 1: what it is. So but when it comes down to
Speaker 1: the music, you put me in the room with the best,
Speaker 1: I become the best. Become the best. You have a
Speaker 1: freestyle before you ever liked just one of just not
Speaker 1: one of those guys that's in the circle. Because I
Speaker 1: felt that I did it for so long by asking
Speaker 1: the question, do you have a freestyle? If you feel
Speaker 1: like your brother have seen, can you freestyle? No? You
Speaker 1: know what it was for me. I've been in the ring,
Speaker 1: not the ring, but I've been around the best, the
Speaker 1: goats the best going to the lad and it's fitting it.
Speaker 1: But how about just having already Yeah, jay Z supposedly
Speaker 1: right now that comes eminem that's the same thing. You
Speaker 1: might lay four boss. You got studio time, and you
Speaker 1: know you're sitting the studio smoke good. You're gonna you're
Speaker 1: gonna late four at the time. Some So No, let
Speaker 1: me tell you something because even if I sat at
Speaker 1: the crib and I pre rote it, I thought it
Speaker 1: was dope. Once it's time to perform, it is a
Speaker 1: different kind of ship, bro. It's like playoffs. It's like
Speaker 1: what's your favorite to perform, favorite record to perform? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta be bad TV around right now. I can
Speaker 1: make a round right now. But that's not what I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do. But I can make a round right now
Speaker 1: off my head channel with you, sitting at the table
Speaker 1: with you, and you know what I mean to make
Speaker 1: the round. Let's see. Let's look. Look, I'm gonna drink
Speaker 1: Chians next nature. I ain't gotta Rachel, I ain't gotta
Speaker 1: hate you. I just drink. That's in my nature. Nigga's
Speaker 1: open bottles to say hate the stage, y'all. Nigg is
Speaker 1: out here wishing I was here. But ya ain't that page.
Speaker 1: You ain't that mad. I'm that racket. Somebody past the bracket.
Speaker 1: Niggas couldn't even wear this type of jacket. Whoa where
Speaker 1: this type of gazelle nigg is out here trying to
Speaker 1: propel my nigga. Watch out, y'all, nigga is on my lapelle.
Speaker 1: Hell that's how it flows. Hell, you got it. Oh,
Speaker 1: I wanted. I wanted you. If it's about it's about
Speaker 1: that hunger. You know, you can have that history, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? But look look at the Lakers
Speaker 1: le bronze semon teen. Yeah they beat them young boys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know I watched How do young boys act against
Speaker 1: the legends? Yeah that dog. Let me tell you something,
Speaker 1: Ben from TV, little shot Being from TV, I love
Speaker 1: this little chippy love Yet I'm gonna keeping. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: keep it on keeping, I'm gonna keep it on it.
Speaker 1: Being from TV is like a perfect reminder that there
Speaker 1: are niggers out there that you don't know that can
Speaker 1: kick you. And I like that because Chris and it's
Speaker 1: not like nothing is a loss, no nothing, but band
Speaker 1: from TV is something that there are people out there
Speaker 1: that they are hungry that they are that move kick
Speaker 1: you in your ass. Wolves at the gate bottom a shot?
Speaker 1: How do I see we got you say you got
Speaker 1: one thing? I would say, no, I love it. Yeah, shot.
Speaker 1: I don't think he got mama water. You don't know
Speaker 1: he needed give him my wa I want to just
Speaker 1: say a memoir. I got remorom party, party, sat this
Speaker 1: is dope, this is so get a shot because I
Speaker 1: want your shot. Shot about the shot time. Let's go, baby, Yo,
Speaker 1: I've a witnessed to your greatness. This is what I want. Hey, Boddy,
Speaker 1: I need I need anybody to understand this, right head.
Speaker 1: I come from Brownsville, but I met this man his
Speaker 1: problem when he was a superstar, biggest superstar and rapping,
Speaker 1: one of the biggest superstars and rappank. Remember when you
Speaker 1: did Super Doug and we was in I think we
Speaker 1: was in Miami at the time, and you was on tory.
Speaker 1: You had one that you got one last T shirt
Speaker 1: that said super Doug on it, and that was a
Speaker 1: whole chore and and I remember that day when you
Speaker 1: got out the stage and everybody like what what what what? What? What? What? What? What? What? What?
Speaker 1: What what? And that was just like in the crowd
Speaker 1: kept doing that ship and it was just like, you know,
Speaker 1: I leave the energy and I got to witness that
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And man, I'm let me
Speaker 1: ask you something though, this is your this is your
Speaker 1: this is your day. It's not my day. No, what's
Speaker 1: your favorite and hip hop? I just wouldn't say that's
Speaker 1: your favorite hip hop? Hip hop? What's your favorite moment?
Speaker 1: If you could we live any moment of hip hop?
Speaker 1: What's the time. But you will go back stand to
Speaker 1: be clear for him or him watching it or either
Speaker 1: no for him for you actually, if you will go
Speaker 1: back and say, you know what, I want to stay
Speaker 1: in this moment forever. That's a m question that you
Speaker 1: really dropping on me right now. Let me take a
Speaker 1: shot before I answer questions up every day. You know
Speaker 1: what's sad as she went because you shoine like her?
Speaker 1: But um really like when when the m C toward
Speaker 1: eighty eight, like, what's try to sneaking Mash Square Garden
Speaker 1: as a kid, go see the man? I didn't concert.
Speaker 1: I want to went this is my house? I went, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I went with the old like t J Swan. T
Speaker 1: J Swan, that's my favorite move member of the Juice
Speaker 1: Cup about the hook nigga, the nigga that I wanted
Speaker 1: to go cet Yeah, I was my SWOOJ make t
Speaker 1: J had his own set that was my he was
Speaker 1: like Michael he said, I think he said it was
Speaker 1: the old set and it was it was this signed
Speaker 1: to me. I thought, I no, he was, I want
Speaker 1: to go here that I want it here. I wanted
Speaker 1: to go here juice to the day was opening up
Speaker 1: from run DMC. Yeah, the garden C seven you know
Speaker 1: another you got another eighty eight. You know when we
Speaker 1: was like fourteen fifteen. How on my level, I'm seventy seven,
Speaker 1: I'm born, I'm forty three, I'm seventy four. So like
Speaker 1: I was, I'm a little older. You got dare. Don't
Speaker 1: feel like an age man. We are seventy five, seventy four,
Speaker 1: same seventy seven, bro seving mean, it's not that fun,
Speaker 1: same age prepared continue man, come on, so you know
Speaker 1: backy like my longs. You know what, I don't take
Speaker 1: the chance for me. You know a little five seven
Speaker 1: seventy two, seventy two, and what I did not know
Speaker 1: my seventy seven seventy I got that signory and I'm
Speaker 1: still like goodge no Big York Now what they said,
Speaker 1: Um rush I Kim Bob, Yes, ain't it's like a
Speaker 1: good listen. It ain't working right, I'm doing fun. Come on, man,
Speaker 1: A couple of things ago. My daughter turned twenty. Let's
Speaker 1: shout out for that bro. I got your old what's
Speaker 1: up with head? Well, maybe make some bro there's a
Speaker 1: cancer free people just takes yours. I ain't gonna I
Speaker 1: got those two blunts left for me. It's for me.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna love seven two they definitely I'm like
Speaker 1: I was the old New York City loves man. I
Speaker 1: gotta have at Philly, switching the type of ship like
Speaker 1: because some old New York City lungs my dirty dirty
Speaker 1: like the ship when the ship was fucked up. She
Speaker 1: didn't right out, Do you still gonna buy? Yeah? You
Speaker 1: can put me on the spot right now. Of course
Speaker 1: I didn't. Yeah, of course I did. I'm still you
Speaker 1: still go buy a Dutch mester? Yeah, I stopped buying
Speaker 1: Dutch to the table to tell you why I'm in
Speaker 1: l a like after the Grammy's after these bullshits, and
Speaker 1: then I go to a seven eleven. I talked about
Speaker 1: the Mexican Games over there, the plus the christ I
Speaker 1: walked in seven remember there that one reason I'm like you,
Speaker 1: I looked like fucking I knew why front, so I'm
Speaker 1: just I walked through and said, fuck it, I'm you
Speaker 1: know fun that I ain't didn't running me out of here.
Speaker 1: I walked through and the guy said, what do you want, sir?
Speaker 1: That I give like the five pack of those duchess.
Speaker 1: It was like the whole ship you from New York
Speaker 1: right themancause, oh yeah, I tho Chris, because you know
Speaker 1: you don't getting the blood a blood something. The guy
Speaker 1: in my mind, goddamnit. Everybody doings snap shots, snap shot,
Speaker 1: night shot, but you got not drink alcohol. It's not shots.
Speaker 1: Get those champagne. You want another shot, not be no more.
Speaker 1: You gotta be yes, Salute a little with the bearcoot
Speaker 1: with the bed, a little with the b Yeah, because
Speaker 1: it's different, different with your drinking, and then your shot
Speaker 1: is different. You know you're gonna sit No, no, you're
Speaker 1: gonna sit with you salute with That's two rule, Broye,
Speaker 1: Jake Champs, your rules. So what's the Jame mean? J
Speaker 1: champ culture? You remember that right now there's mad rule
Speaker 1: but no rules at all. It's mad rules and no
Speaker 1: rules and all. And you know what one of my
Speaker 1: rule is, don't respect our fucking left. And you know,
Speaker 1: I know a long Pep, you've been out here monkey
Speaker 1: foot and kicking ship and doing the funk that you
Speaker 1: had to do for so long. I want to tell
Speaker 1: you I respect you. I'm gonna tell you as a
Speaker 1: motherfucking same person, from your culture, from your culture, from
Speaker 1: your coach, I respect everything you did. And I can
Speaker 1: tell you, guys, and ain't you need for me? And
Speaker 1: but let me keep finis to figure you out, and
Speaker 1: let me just tell you something like you, you're supposed
Speaker 1: to be respect. You're supposed to be a red carpet
Speaker 1: beat because not only as an artist, you're not only
Speaker 1: dominating ship as an artist and did certain things an artist,
Speaker 1: but you're also transitioned to a producer. And then and
Speaker 1: then you and you did as we do so and
Speaker 1: the nature the same thing. It's like, yo, bro, you
Speaker 1: were just throwing in the marsh pit. You don't know
Speaker 1: what fund you got. You were placing this other guy
Speaker 1: and but she was on your own side. And then
Speaker 1: you kept going with the wild grimments. You kept you
Speaker 1: just kept getting for it. And the thing about it.
Speaker 1: This man, we want to salute y'all. Bro, This's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's another shot. Time's another shot. Time. We
Speaker 1: love y'all. Mother some Yeah, I want you want to
Speaker 1: say that. I want to say this turn out of
Speaker 1: my my heart. Yes for a Bouttom of my heart,
Speaker 1: Yes my heart. Um. Birthday was yesterday. She died of cancer. Um.
Speaker 1: She was a veteran of the United States by me,
Speaker 1: respect respect um, you know. And I want to shout
Speaker 1: out all the homies that we lost, the real homiesies.
Speaker 1: You know, we lost a lot of people this year. Man.
Speaker 1: This she had been a breakup car. This year had
Speaker 1: been really something else. This had been crazy, fucking insane.
Speaker 1: So it's been unbelievable that I gotta we gotta survive
Speaker 1: through this ship and everybody in here salute yourself for
Speaker 1: surviving throughing and helping everybody wear a mask about to
Speaker 1: get mask. We got mask, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: promoted healthy. I've been a hermit. Everybody always put me
Speaker 1: in outcasting me until now because I was in the
Speaker 1: crib cooking up beastly like like you like like nor like.
Speaker 1: It's like even I wish I could work with nas.
Speaker 1: I wish I could remix Come King's Disease, which I
Speaker 1: get that acapella and called the crib. Someone might hereless
Speaker 1: and get through that calling the crib. You know what,
Speaker 1: because a lot of people upset with them beats. I know,
Speaker 1: I know you. I know what kind of beats you like.
Speaker 1: I know what kind of it's not. No, it's not
Speaker 1: about that. Take a little shot. We have shot that
Speaker 1: kind of beat. You that's a transport shot. Come on,
Speaker 1: it's about secret over there. But look, everybody ain't gonna
Speaker 1: like everything. But I know how to paint the picture.
Speaker 1: I think this was a dot X And what's the
Speaker 1: name of the album again, it's called the Gods have
Speaker 1: a Round Today. Baby, let's do it. So I don't
Speaker 1: know about from out now right now? Shot to the
Speaker 1: shot to DJ jab at fat beats. You know I
Speaker 1: that it was next to Great Papotus too. Yeah it was.
Speaker 1: They got to store in at l A. They got
Speaker 1: the story now it's a it's downtown at l A
Speaker 1: by Scared Row. So anyway, he was like, yo, let's
Speaker 1: do it. You know, Dot me and Dot you know
Speaker 1: he just had a baby daughter. Congratulate yes, and had
Speaker 1: a baby dog. Yeah, you're alcohol. Let me take over
Speaker 1: right now. Listen, you know what I mean. Niggas and
Speaker 1: my friends, they dix don't work, they can't they can't
Speaker 1: produce children. Let me just pointed out disrespect that I
Speaker 1: don't want to do swich stuff that came by the
Speaker 1: inflation to start a cod and then number dogs it's diego.
Speaker 1: These nuts are only fair, only fair id number three.
Speaker 1: That's just it's the same ship. There's never Let's makes
Speaker 1: you got about more, can't you? And Eddie gets Eddie
Speaker 1: gets also makes it looys for Eddie Giggs. He's my brother.
Speaker 1: I love him and he's kids eight. His chestis ears
Speaker 1: and beers is crazy and he still makes pieces but
Speaker 1: he does not busting nuts. This makes his words because
Speaker 1: he eats. He eats. But you ask you. Let's get right, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's not even side inside. Let us keep it real. God,
Speaker 1: look God, who actually I kiss my women everywhere, me, mabe,
Speaker 1: me going to me, my women, me and my wife.
Speaker 1: We we got our own personal bites. Am I gonna
Speaker 1: put it out there, but you know you ate an
Speaker 1: asser too. I don't do that. No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no, it's not like that. It's not right, kid.
Speaker 1: You don't ask them to dr change story. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you something that we still make love to your woman.
Speaker 1: You got a wife, you got kids. Everybody asked the
Speaker 1: you're got supposed to if you were a king, you
Speaker 1: got supposed to. Addressing that shows you never know. You
Speaker 1: will never know that you love if you love your women,
Speaker 1: you guys, if that's what you call it, that shouldn't be.
Speaker 1: Eddie Giggs is not making love to his I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not doing it. That's not ain't radoms. You can't
Speaker 1: do that in the person right now, like I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm forty six, bro, I'm not talking about I'm not gonna.
Speaker 1: I'm bugging. So I gotta wait, gett I'm okay, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not. I have your family about I
Speaker 1: wanted you to keep going, just wanted to be right.
Speaker 1: Let me sell you something. My girls, so so my
Speaker 1: girls to the crazy old what to do? My woman
Speaker 1: is so crazy over me. I don't know what to do.
Speaker 1: I'm crazy. You got to I'm got to sit up
Speaker 1: wanting to do in the front of conversation in the
Speaker 1: middle of Oh that's cool, a little shot moment, not
Speaker 1: doing whatever the please. So that's all we're like, yo,
Speaker 1: whatever I gotta do please. Fact says a nigga might
Speaker 1: go to the left because she gotta go down and
Speaker 1: she's going me anyway and you have to go down on.
Speaker 1: It's a trade off. Everything is a train off these days,
Speaker 1: trained off. The assassin that's going it like it down
Speaker 1: with him. I'm sorry, you know, it's just going on
Speaker 1: everything ships control ship, one of these drink exactly right,
Speaker 1: exactly what you said on that bar. That was very,
Speaker 1: very very conversation. Somebody my vera because I know that
Speaker 1: I gotta trade. I gotta give the kid. You have
Speaker 1: to give the get and he never gets to get
Speaker 1: to get my friend whatever, he never gets. It's just
Speaker 1: me and he bit to say, I'm eat your ask
Speaker 1: for but I suck it. And then he's like he's
Speaker 1: like pouring hub without without the camp without it's just
Speaker 1: a hubb Everybody has it in the free comingside. Listen
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, alcoholic. It's not just nobody. No,
Speaker 1: we don't say an we haven't fun a lot, I
Speaker 1: haven't smoked to blowing him in fifteen years. Wait wait
Speaker 1: wait wait, wait wait wait brothers, my brother's come on man,
Speaker 1: wait wait wait, let's waiting. Just good bro, Yeah sir,
Speaker 1: So you know me? Do you know? I just keep
Speaker 1: making me shout up the book little all the way,
Speaker 1: all the way. You got me, you got me going?
Speaker 1: You want me where you got me? Right now, that's
Speaker 1: a movie, coote, that was a movie, colde. I'm still
Speaker 1: just listen listen this big. I love you, Thank you
Speaker 1: for having me. I know your time is money. No,
Speaker 1: we're waiting for you, and I'm not trying to waste it,
Speaker 1: but I gotta promote my ships today. What you're going
Speaker 1: for us? Got an album called the Guards have a
Speaker 1: robbed Peace to the Guns. Let's keep it real. Let's
Speaker 1: let's put some drinks. They just your side? Did you ask?
Speaker 1: Do they just still equal? Because they just still might
Speaker 1: have a big ege jesus every crette. You know what.
Speaker 1: I'm stopped smoking cigarette now. I love makes you read April. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to keep you the thing, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I love y'all. At drinks, we gonna do
Speaker 1: we do, we gonna do the drinks. You're gonna do that.
Speaker 1: But now it s like I just wanted to let
Speaker 1: you know that I've been in this all my life.
Speaker 1: I ain't never give you all my life, and I'm
Speaker 1: still here for you. I'm still going for you and
Speaker 1: drink chance, and I'm thankful that you got me and
Speaker 1: y'all nig is epic two both your mind manners love
Speaker 1: the moment in time. I would love the chance that
Speaker 1: this is ship. I ain't got no drinking. You're gonna
Speaker 1: drink dru much. I much already drink that already. I
Speaker 1: got the champagne cup. You gotta up. That's the champak
Speaker 1: up like I got so many cups. Got mad? You
Speaker 1: don't drink stopping together, we get a little every name
Speaker 1: and hugging from you. Know this is my job. I
Speaker 1: know I can cook. And I seen you cooking show.
Speaker 1: I don't have a cooking show. I have a food show.
Speaker 1: I don't don't cook, burner, you don't want me to cook?
Speaker 1: I know, Oh I thought it was a cooking show.
Speaker 1: Though it's a fool show. Like I just eat food.
Speaker 1: I don't cook. Oh that ship dopest fuck. You go
Speaker 1: to restaurants and heat likely and you go and then
Speaker 1: they got a guy up to guys like, y'all have
Speaker 1: s see I like that show. I was like, oh ship,
Speaker 1: here to see you. And my girl said like, oh ship,
Speaker 1: he eats all right, That's what I'm saying. You always
Speaker 1: was that obspiration. I know who above it. You all
Speaker 1: you guys, do not let me take yourself. You're my brother,
Speaker 1: all right, You're my brother, but your inspirations are a
Speaker 1: lot of brothers, just because no matter what, you refused
Speaker 1: to be counted out. You do it your way. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You do it your way. You
Speaker 1: represent the culture. You do it your way. My brother
Speaker 1: were our stories. No matter what, I can't you can't
Speaker 1: talk about me without talking about you. And by the way,
Speaker 1: I like you. But I want you to know this.
Speaker 1: Drink chance and drink chance. We're standing from the two letters.
Speaker 1: He said, I don't know. This is motherfucking Nations for
Speaker 1: Queen's Bridge. Aghol this is motherfuck did family alcohol didn't
Speaker 1: like four different carrots. He's for Brown's real mother to Yeah,
Speaker 1: got that makes a look for Let me tak to
Speaker 1: after this. This is this man right here is why
Speaker 1: New York City got a name courtesy to this man
Speaker 1: nature him too, you know what I mean, taking a
Speaker 1: piss Let's let's go album. This is this is the
Speaker 1: birth of the album by Head. Come on guys studio
Speaker 1: in the hole to see one of my myum can
Speaker 1: you get on my obum sneeze. Let's star got a
Speaker 1: song called Demon Gang can't get on here. I'm sending
Speaker 1: you recording all this guy's not say what record can't
Speaker 1: you can use it. You can use it a skinning
Speaker 1: the album if you want. But if he recorded to
Speaker 1: get on it with me and we doing a video
Speaker 1: out here in Miami, wait, if we had it. I
Speaker 1: mean he's about to love bro, Come on the hip hop.
Speaker 1: He's hip hop. You got stopped thinking about it? Cool
Speaker 1: about I love you? If you want you, you got it.
Speaker 1: That's it's your brother, bro Bro. And yeah, this guy's good.
Speaker 1: But what song overlooked at the flight and Formation ship. Brother,
Speaker 1: I gotta get out of here a certain time. No, no,
Speaker 1: I get out of here tomorrow. He'll do a double
Speaker 1: lot with you before the nights Day. I'm saying we've
Speaker 1: seen right, we got those big guys over here that
Speaker 1: can make it happen. I mean, this guy got me
Speaker 1: say I love show a double as. Now I'm cops
Speaker 1: Natan and come right. Okay, yeah, I love these bummers.
Speaker 1: He's my bus. I have a shot ready. I love
Speaker 1: the shot tank shot shine to drinking drinking shot. I
Speaker 1: get your shots shot, Mr Shots shop sad. I want
Speaker 1: to do this thing because the shots. Heybody want to
Speaker 1: let's tase here, Mr least not ready for give shot.
Speaker 1: I'm not like guys about a foo kind of vibe,
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna do this one time. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I talking about nature. Nature feels great about his life.
Speaker 1: I feel great about he almost pretty some creeve right now,
Speaker 1: what's ye were doing this? Now? You guys are gonna listen.
Speaker 1: We're going. I was afraid you're going. You guys are connecting.
Speaker 1: You got to call you when I go to christ Music,
Speaker 1: I make your job easier. I'm like the White Howard
Speaker 1: Game four when I'm thinking beat the Nuggets. Oh yo, kids,
Speaker 1: the bubble can take in the game. I've been in
Speaker 1: the game. I'm trying to get some mess. Can I
Speaker 1: get my minutes? Getting minutes, y'all getting minutes gets shames
Speaker 1: the nugget. I'm you wait out anything you want to
Speaker 1: get out. You got the way to take this picture,
Speaker 1: this last one. I love puts everybody for you get
Speaker 1: out of Okay, want do you want to get out
Speaker 1: before we get out? You know what we got at
Speaker 1: it networking. We're doing a lot of ship for the
Speaker 1: community outside of the rap. What's what's the foord? What's
Speaker 1: the you said you got? I'm not really sure right now,
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Speaker 1: can get the word out. You're giving out sneakers for
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Speaker 1: kind of ship that didn't need this a real ship
Speaker 1: right here. You know what I mean. I mean there's
Speaker 1: a lot of people out there in need. There is
Speaker 1: a lot of things. We laugh we joke. We talked
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Speaker 1: have a ride you know, actually can't be here. He
Speaker 1: had a baby daughter, you know, shot to his family
Speaker 1: right now. I just want to thank you know have
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