Speaker 1: Hey, listeners, it's me Jane Murrie, one of the producers
Speaker 1: of this finally a show. Our finale is coming up
Speaker 1: for this season next week. I can't believe it. This
Speaker 1: is the weirdest thing that anyone's ever let us make.
Speaker 1: So I want to shout out Leah Pictures and iHeart
Speaker 1: for giving us the go ahead to make real old
Speaker 1: fashioned audio documentaries. We wanted to rerun this episode from
Speaker 1: a few weeks ago, featuring an abortion provider. She prescribes
Speaker 1: people miff A, Prestone and the associated drugs needed for
Speaker 1: medical abortion. But of course, now we all know this
Speaker 1: is in front of the Supreme Court, so it's important listening.
Speaker 1: Please quote unquote enjoy and we'll see you next week
Speaker 1: with our final episode.
Speaker 2: So it's around six point thirty and I'm just getting
Speaker 2: ready to start my day. I'm going to have two
Speaker 2: very excited dogs who are ready to go outside and
Speaker 2: see what other kind of animals may have come through
Speaker 2: our property overnight. Anything from something big like bears and
Speaker 2: elk to something small like a fox or even a squirrel.
Speaker 2: This morning, I'm going to go ahead and text my
Speaker 2: son and just tell them to have a great day
Speaker 2: about the time the dogs come back in, I know
Speaker 2: that my daughter's going to give me a call. I'm
Speaker 2: really lucky that she calls me every morning on her
Speaker 2: way to work. And as soon as all that's done,
Speaker 2: then I'm going to jump in and start working and
Speaker 2: see what the day brings.
Speaker 1: This is finally a show about an abortion provider for
Speaker 1: over twenty five years. Jamie Rich is a nurse with
Speaker 1: the Satanic Temple's first ever telehealth abortion clinic.
Speaker 2: My name is Jamie. I am an OBGYN nurse practitioner.
Speaker 2: I'm lucky enough that I get to work from home
Speaker 2: in northwestern Colorado and I provide telehealth services to people
Speaker 2: in New Mexico. I can remember at four or five
Speaker 2: someone asking me what do you want to be when
Speaker 2: you grow up, and my answer has always been I
Speaker 2: want to be a nurse. It never changed, it never wavered.
Speaker 2: I never wanted to be a doctor. I feel like
Speaker 2: the philosophy of care is just a little bit different.
Speaker 2: Nursing looks more at the holistic patient, not just oh,
Speaker 2: the person who has a breast slump or the person
Speaker 2: who needs surgery. But there are many other layers to
Speaker 2: a person, from their mental health to their socioeconomics to
Speaker 2: possibly their religious or spiritual beliefs, what's going on in
Speaker 2: the home that is impacting the way that they're able
Speaker 2: to take care of themselves, and so on, and so
Speaker 2: different philosophy of care that just worked better with my
Speaker 2: beliefs and how I wanted to take care of people.
Speaker 2: I grew up in kind of a conservative family. My
Speaker 2: dad was Catholic, my mom was not Catholic, but was
Speaker 2: pretty religious. And you know, like birth control and premarital sex,
Speaker 2: you don't talk about that because that doesn't happen until
Speaker 2: you're older, married, and you don't worry about that. And
Speaker 2: so I think a little bit was that normal kind
Speaker 2: of teenage rebellion. I'm going to figure out who I am.
Speaker 2: I'm going to figure out what my beliefs are and
Speaker 2: where I want to go and what I want to do.
Speaker 2: And to my parents' credit, they were like, you know what,
Speaker 2: if that's what you want to do, that's what you
Speaker 2: want to do, that is great. And so my husband,
Speaker 2: right when I graduated from college, we got married, we
Speaker 2: were still married, was a photojournalist. He stayed here in
Speaker 2: Colorado and I went to Los Angeles, moved up here
Speaker 2: to where I am now and started working for Planned Parenthood.
Speaker 2: The community is supportive, or if they're not supportive, then
Speaker 2: it's basically whatever you know, don't you do what you
Speaker 2: want to do. I'm not going to interfere, but I'm
Speaker 2: not going to support it either. So I left Plant
Speaker 2: Parenthood a little over a year ago. Before I left
Speaker 2: Planned Parenthood, though, I had been approached by some folks
Speaker 2: who were starting TST Health, which is the telehealth that
Speaker 2: I'm working for now to provide abortion services to folks
Speaker 2: in New Mexico. TST Health is the Satanic Temple Health,
Speaker 2: which then provides the care to the Samuel Alito's Mother's
Speaker 2: abortion clinic.
Speaker 3: So get your abortion today and the name of sam
Speaker 3: you all Alito's mom.
Speaker 2: You can find out more on our website. And you
Speaker 2: know Alito obviously on the Supreme Court definitely not pro choice,
Speaker 2: definitely very conservative, has voted against religious and reproductive rights.
Speaker 2: And I think it is intentionally a little bit provocative
Speaker 2: to get people talking about it and to get people
Speaker 2: to hopefully do some research, find out what is and
Speaker 2: what it isn't, and be able to make decisions again
Speaker 2: based on facts. The telehealth laws within New Mexico are
Speaker 2: a little easier to manage. New Mexico was kind of
Speaker 2: a safe haven. You know, they're surrounded by Arizona and
Speaker 2: Texas and pretty close to Oklahoma and all of those
Speaker 2: states that are not friendly to women or abortion services,
Speaker 2: and so New Mexico kind of made sense in terms
Speaker 2: of where we could provide services and hopefully get some
Speaker 2: people who didn't have any other option to get into
Speaker 2: New Mexico to be able to access care. There's been
Speaker 2: a few articles in the paper against having abortion services
Speaker 2: and against TST Health, but that also tells people where
Speaker 2: to access care as well. New Mexico, where we're providing service,
Speaker 2: does not have abortion restrictions, and so we're not fighting
Speaker 2: that fight here. But the Satanic Temple is in process
Speaker 2: of legally trying to get care provided in some other
Speaker 2: states where it is not so friendly. So TST Health
Speaker 2: is a component of TST, which is the Satanic Temple.
Speaker 2: At this point, it's a startup. It's less than a
Speaker 2: year old. We actually have only been seeing patients since
Speaker 2: February of twenty twenty three. In some of these states
Speaker 2: that are very unfriendly or who have essentially banned abortion,
Speaker 2: they are us using religion, especially Christianity religion to state
Speaker 2: that this is something that goes against God and should
Speaker 2: not happen. And so what TST. The Satanic Temple is
Speaker 2: doing is saying, you know that this is these are
Speaker 2: our religious tenets and our religious beliefs, and by you
Speaker 2: restricting or outright banning abortion, is that you are infringing
Speaker 2: upon my religious convictions. The mission of the Satanic Temple
Speaker 2: is to encourage benevolence and empathy, you know, to really
Speaker 2: advocate for practical, common sense, factual based information really really
Speaker 2: important for this group. They oppose in justice like taking
Speaker 2: away rights for women who want to have abortion as
Speaker 2: part of their healthcare, trans rights, LGBTQ rights, those kind
Speaker 2: of things. And so that's really the overarching kind of
Speaker 2: mission statement of the Satanic Temple and making sure that
Speaker 2: decisions that are being made, whether that's at a local
Speaker 2: government level or at the upper levels of the United
Speaker 2: States government, that those decision are based on facts and
Speaker 2: based on science and not based on a religion that
Speaker 2: is not based in science or based in facts, and
Speaker 2: is you know, and excludes certain people because for whatever reason,
Speaker 2: the fundamental tenets of the Satanic Temples, so there are
Speaker 2: seven of them. The ones that we tend to use
Speaker 2: the most for an abortion ritual or for folks who
Speaker 2: are interested in having some type of a ritual with
Speaker 2: their procedure is that one's body is inviolable, subject to
Speaker 2: one's own will alone, bodily autonomy, belief should conform to
Speaker 2: one's best scientific understanding of the world. So, in other words,
Speaker 2: we are providing care that is based on the best practices,
Speaker 2: on scientific evidence on twenty five plus years in the
Speaker 2: United States, more than that in other countries, on how
Speaker 2: this is safe and effective. So those are the two
Speaker 2: that we tend to use the most. The tenants also
Speaker 2: talk a little bit about compassion and empathy towards people,
Speaker 2: trying to understand people, not judgingtruggle for justice, you know,
Speaker 2: and not having certain groups marginalized. Freedom of others should
Speaker 2: be respected. In other words, I may believe this, you
Speaker 2: may believe that doesn't make one of us more right
Speaker 2: on the other person wrong, or anything like that, but
Speaker 2: that you know, as people, we all have different beliefs
Speaker 2: and different views, and that that should be celebrated. We
Speaker 2: talk about people are fallible. You know, if you make
Speaker 2: a mistake, then you should once you recognize that, own
Speaker 2: up to your mistakes, move forward, try not to do
Speaker 2: that again again. You know, get the information that you
Speaker 2: need to be able to move forward and make better decisions.
Speaker 2: And then the last one just talks about all of
Speaker 2: these tenets are used kind of as an overarching principles
Speaker 2: as to inspire nobility and action and thought. And I
Speaker 2: think that that's really great way of saying that to
Speaker 2: be compassionate and to continue to learn, and to continue
Speaker 2: to grow, and to continue to help provide justice to
Speaker 2: those groups that may be marginalized, that we should be
Speaker 2: looking at the written and spoken word and using all
Speaker 2: of these tenets to be kinder, gentler and learn more
Speaker 2: and continue to move forward in this world. Some people
Speaker 2: are actually member, active ongoing members of the Satanic Temple,
Speaker 2: or they have a friend who is who tells them
Speaker 2: about it. There are so many things that the Satanic
Speaker 2: Temple does. It's a group of folks who believe in
Speaker 2: facts and believe in science and believe in bodily autonomy
Speaker 2: who are getting together and trying to make a difference
Speaker 2: in their communities. I think when people hear the Satanic Temple,
Speaker 2: they're thinking, oh my gosh, they're worshiping Satan. I tell
Speaker 2: you really cannot make this stuff up.
Speaker 4: This group pledges to provide quote religious medication.
Speaker 3: Abortion care and not how they identify themselves as not
Speaker 3: believing in a literal Satan. But when you associate yourself
Speaker 3: with Satan at all, Satan is the father of lies,
Speaker 3: So how are we supposed to believe that that's even true?
Speaker 3: Gather together to stand as one unified voice against this
Speaker 3: demonic spirit that is trying to invade.
Speaker 4: Our petitioning for access to abortion, and what they say
Speaker 4: is to quote, continue performing voluntary abortions as part of
Speaker 4: its religious rituals. And to me, that is a huge ordeal.
Speaker 2: You know that they're sacrificing and all of these horrible
Speaker 2: things that you hear about with Satan worship, and that's
Speaker 2: not what this is at all. I mean, I think
Speaker 2: some people probably would be concerned with the name the
Speaker 2: Satanic Temple, although this health clinic part of it is
Speaker 2: TST Health, which I think sometimes people don't know what
Speaker 2: it is until they've actually gotten into the paperwork. But
Speaker 2: once they get in the paperwork, I think they realize that,
Speaker 2: you know, this is a really professional organization. We are
Speaker 2: dedicated to providing the highest standard of care that you know,
Speaker 2: everything that we're asking is very clear and has a
Speaker 2: purpose and is very medically focused. They can always ask
Speaker 2: as many questions as they'd like to about our training
Speaker 2: and you know how everything got started, and you know
Speaker 2: what we're doing for quality control. And I haven't had
Speaker 2: anybody who made an appointment who has said this is
Speaker 2: kind of strange or whatever. It's mainly thanks so much
Speaker 2: for being available. This is you know, you made this
Speaker 2: much easier for me and I can do this on
Speaker 2: my own time, and it's been a great service. I
Speaker 2: have a daughter and a son. My daughter is a
Speaker 2: high school English teacher, also in a small town in Colorado.
Speaker 2: So this is really funny. Actually it's a funny story.
Speaker 2: So my daughter was in college and she did a
Speaker 2: semester abroad and it was the semester you know that.
Speaker 2: It was during the time when Trump got elected, and
Speaker 2: I can remember a few days before the election, I
Speaker 2: said to her, if Trump gets elected, you're going to
Speaker 2: have to stay where you are, and she's like, okay,
Speaker 2: and kind of laughed it off. And then of course
Speaker 2: he got elected, and so she called me and she
Speaker 2: was crying and she's like, I can't believe this happened.
Speaker 4: One.
Speaker 2: I don't want to stay here. I really want to
Speaker 2: come home. And I'm part of the Satanic Temple too.
Speaker 2: I joined because you know, I just I just thought
Speaker 2: it was a good thing to do. And I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: good for you. That's great. I don't know anything about it,
Speaker 2: but you know, that's that's wonderful. What are you doing?
Speaker 2: She goes, I don't really do anything because there's nothing
Speaker 2: here that I can do with them, but I just
Speaker 2: wanted to do that as a protest. I was like,
Speaker 2: that's great, that's fine. I think it's really funny. When
Speaker 2: she was in middle school, the school approached me and
Speaker 2: asked if I would teach their sex ed class, and
Speaker 2: I was like, sure, absolutely, And so my daughter actually
Speaker 2: sat down and did all the flash cards and all
Speaker 2: of the handouts for the sex said class for her
Speaker 2: middle school class. And then my son I also did
Speaker 2: his sex head class, and he was great with it,
Speaker 2: and you know, made sure he participated to make his
Speaker 2: friends participate. You would look at him and just you know,
Speaker 2: make a judgment of looks pretty conservative. You know, he's
Speaker 2: kind of a I don't know, like a cowboy kind
Speaker 2: of rancher, mechanic kind of looking kid, and that's that's
Speaker 2: what he does first full time work. But he's probably
Speaker 2: the most liberal of all of us. There were a
Speaker 2: few times that it was probably uncomfortable for them, you know,
Speaker 2: that they had friends or family who weren't real keen.
Speaker 2: You know, it was not a secret where I worked
Speaker 2: and what I did that weren't too keen on that,
Speaker 2: but they they handled it well. Funny story, I was
Speaker 2: going into work and I had my daughter with me,
Speaker 2: who at the time was in college, so she wasn't little.
Speaker 2: But even then we have talked about this from the
Speaker 2: get go with both both my children. But my daughter
Speaker 2: was with me, and the protester yelled that the angel
Speaker 2: of death was behind me and that my daughter was
Speaker 2: going to suffer because of it, and it just we
Speaker 2: both looked at each other, my daughter and I and
Speaker 2: we both walked in course, you know, we do not
Speaker 2: engage with people like that, and we both walked in
Speaker 2: and we said, good, we are gonna you know, She's like, mom,
Speaker 2: You're going to continue doing what you do. And I'm like, yes,
Speaker 2: i am. She goes me too, you know, I'm going
Speaker 2: to continue to be you know, outspoken and an advocate
Speaker 2: for whoever needs me with this work. I was just thinking,
Speaker 2: you know, I know that people who are our anti
Speaker 2: choice really do say, you know, how do you live
Speaker 2: with yourself? How can you do this? And I guess
Speaker 2: my response to that is how can I not? This? Again,
Speaker 2: is essential healthcare. This is providing a very safe service
Speaker 2: to folks who need it for whatever the reason is,
Speaker 2: and again no different than anything else. And so I
Speaker 2: couldn't live with myself if I didn't provide the care
Speaker 2: that I feel is appropriate and necessary for the people
Speaker 2: I see. TST Health is not a temple or a
Speaker 2: gathering place for folks who have the beliefs of the
Speaker 2: Satanic temple. However, we do incorporate those tenets with the
Speaker 2: patients that we see to whatever extent that they would
Speaker 2: like to go through any type of a ritual with
Speaker 2: their abortion care. I'm going to read what the TST
Speaker 2: Health site says about the abortion ritual. So it serves
Speaker 2: as a protective right. Its purpose is to cast off
Speaker 2: unwanted feelings that a patient may be experiencing due to
Speaker 2: choosing to have a legal and medically safe abortion. The
Speaker 2: ritual is designed to alleviate stressors and empower the patient
Speaker 2: to be guided by the Satanic Temple's third and fifth
Speaker 2: tenants when pursuing their decision. The ritual serves to assist
Speaker 2: in affirming their decision and to ward off the effects
Speaker 2: of unjust persecution, which can cause one to stray from
Speaker 2: the paths of scientific reasoning and free will, and those
Speaker 2: third and fifth tenants. One of those is bodily autonomy.
Speaker 2: The other, the fifth one is talks about the scientific
Speaker 2: and best practices and utilizing the best knowledge that we
Speaker 2: have or care. Some folks want to participate in some
Speaker 2: type of a ritual, even if it's I have chosen
Speaker 2: to do this, this is right for me, this is
Speaker 2: right for my body. I am firm and clear in
Speaker 2: my decision. It could be as simple as that which
Speaker 2: we do want everyone to be able to verbalize to
Speaker 2: us that this is their decision that they want, that
Speaker 2: they're not being coerced in any way. Or it could
Speaker 2: be that they may actually take one of the seven
Speaker 2: tenants from the Satanic Temple and actually say those out
Speaker 2: loud prior to taking their medication or when they take
Speaker 2: their medication. So the patient that we're seeing today. We
Speaker 2: ask if she would be willing to come onto the
Speaker 2: podcast just so that everyone can kind of hear the process,
Speaker 2: the consent process, how we explain everything to the patient,
Speaker 2: my part of the visit, the provider part of the visit,
Speaker 2: and she said that she's more than willing to do that.
Speaker 2: So we just got a message from our support person
Speaker 2: just that the patient has joined and so we are
Speaker 2: going to join the call as well. It's a video
Speaker 2: call perfect.
Speaker 5: So before we get started, I'll just tell you a
Speaker 5: little bit about me, So Jessica.
Speaker 1: I will be going over the process with you in
Speaker 1: a little bit about the medication, so.
Speaker 3: What to expect and all of that.
Speaker 5: Go over quite a bit of information, so I at
Speaker 5: any point you need me to stop or repeat myself,
Speaker 5: just let me know.
Speaker 1: The medical.
Speaker 2: The way that telehealth works is that they can fill
Speaker 2: out the paperwork online. Wherever they are doesn't matter. We
Speaker 2: get it, no big deal. When they do their telehealth
Speaker 2: visit with me, which is a video visit kind of
Speaker 2: face to face, we each get to see each other
Speaker 2: and talk to each other and you know, hopefully get
Speaker 2: a little bit of a connection they need to physically
Speaker 2: be in new Mexico, whether that's one foot over the
Speaker 2: line from Texas or wherever they just have to physically
Speaker 2: be in New Mexico. Some patients really stick in your
Speaker 2: mind because they had to travel two thousand miles and
Speaker 2: you know, they had to get childcare, and many of
Speaker 2: them have traveled, but a lot of them we have
Speaker 2: seen have actually been in New Mexico and they're in
Speaker 2: small little towns. I the reason I was really excited
Speaker 2: to work with TST Health is that through their membership
Speaker 2: and through donors, the only cost to the patients who
Speaker 2: are accessing is the cost of the medication, which is
Speaker 2: about eighty dollars. Other places it's anywhere from six hundred
Speaker 2: to you know, twelve hundred dollars for a medication abortion.
Speaker 2: And so especially for folks who maybe need to travel,
Speaker 2: folks who are in some of these really tiny towns
Speaker 2: in New Mexico that socioeconomically are not stellar, this is
Speaker 2: a really affordable, great way to access abortion care if
Speaker 2: they need that service.
Speaker 5: Medication, and we send you to pregnancy tests. So the
Speaker 5: first medication that you will be taking, it's called if
Speaker 5: a persona is just one pill.
Speaker 2: Oh, I think we lost her. Hey, Jesse, I think
Speaker 2: we lost her. I think we did.
Speaker 4: There you go.
Speaker 1: Can you hear me? Yeah, I can hear you. Okay, perfect,
Speaker 1: thank you.
Speaker 5: Technology already so the person that you.
Speaker 2: Take so medication abortion is safe and effective for someone
Speaker 2: who is eleven weeks pregnant or less, someone who maybe
Speaker 2: had a wanted pregnancy and for whatever reason, it's not
Speaker 2: a normal pregnancy. We don't tend to find that out
Speaker 2: until you know, sometimes fifteen, sixteen, even twenty weeks into pregnancy,
Speaker 2: and so that the person who's in that situation would
Speaker 2: have to have a surgical or an in office abortion
Speaker 2: procedure determinate a pregnancy that is abnormal. The prescriptions for
Speaker 2: the abortion pill and for the other medications that we
Speaker 2: prescribe along with that go through a mail order pharmacy,
Speaker 2: and so if they're in New Mexico, it can come
Speaker 2: to their house, it can go to a po box,
Speaker 2: it can go wherever they need it to do. If
Speaker 2: they don't live in New Mexico, they can either wait
Speaker 2: for that package because we can overnight it, or they
Speaker 2: can do mail forwarding from a physical address and then
Speaker 2: it'll forward it to their home. The reason that we
Speaker 2: do the mail order is that most pharmacies do not
Speaker 2: carry the medications for medication abortion. There are two main medications.
Speaker 2: One is called mithipristone are you for eighty six? The
Speaker 2: French abortion pill. Those are all names that have been
Speaker 2: used and when it was first approved for use in
Speaker 2: the United States back in two thousand and one, there
Speaker 2: were some very strict guidelines in that as a provider,
Speaker 2: I had to contract with the manufacturer. They had to
Speaker 2: verify that I really knew what I was doing and
Speaker 2: that I knew how to prescribe it, knew how to
Speaker 2: take care of it, and I gave the patient that
Speaker 2: all the right stuff and I could take care of them.
Speaker 2: And as we have found, you know, cause it was
Speaker 2: it had been legal in European Union for much longer
Speaker 2: than that. We had all their safety data and then
Speaker 2: we had all this data from the United States as well,
Speaker 2: and we realized, wow, it is pretty safe. And so
Speaker 2: even though I'm still contracted with the manufacturer to say
Speaker 2: that I can prescribe it, pharmacies do not carry it.
Speaker 2: It's crazy that yeah, it's just crazy to have to
Speaker 2: jump through all these hoops for a medication that is
Speaker 2: super safe and should be available when someone needs it.
Speaker 2: You kind of want to be like, why can't you
Speaker 2: understand how important this is? And just because you don't
Speaker 2: believe in it doesn't mean you should take that access
Speaker 2: away from someone else. You know, I may not believe
Speaker 2: in I don't know having a root canal, but I
Speaker 2: would never take that away from someone else. It just
Speaker 2: astounds me that still in this day and age, we
Speaker 2: are taking things away from a certain group of people,
Speaker 2: whether that's you know, people of color, whether that's people
Speaker 2: who you know are assigned female at birth who can
Speaker 2: get pregnant and we're taking away their abortion access or
Speaker 2: their birth control access or whatever it is. It's just
Speaker 2: I'm kind of dumbfounded by it all. I try not
Speaker 2: to get in arguments about it because I feel like
Speaker 2: if someone is that has those beliefs so entrenched that
Speaker 2: they're not willing to listen, Just like I'm willing to
Speaker 2: listen as long as what you're telling me is factual
Speaker 2: and again based on not just feelings but on actual
Speaker 2: facts and what's going on, I'm willing to listen. But
Speaker 2: if someone is so entrenched in it's it's wrong because
Speaker 2: you know, the Bible says it's wrong or whatever, then
Speaker 2: I'm not going to get in an argument. And so
Speaker 2: there are some people I don't want to talk about
Speaker 2: it with. You know that I know what their beliefs are,
Speaker 2: and so we just we won't talk about it, or
Speaker 2: you know, like in large family gatherings, I may say, okay,
Speaker 2: everyone listen, we are not talking about these five things.
Speaker 2: You can talk about anything else you want, not those
Speaker 2: five things, because it doesn't do any good to argue.
Speaker 5: Once you receive the medications and once you start taking them, okay.
Speaker 1: So to make sure that you do have them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, ky, Alicia. My name's Jamie. I'm one of the
Speaker 2: nurse practitioners with TST Health. How are you?
Speaker 4: I'm good, thank you.
Speaker 2: So, once you receive your medicine, you just want to
Speaker 2: decide when you want to take it. I know just
Speaker 2: told you. The first medicine you're going to take is
Speaker 2: the mifipristone that stops the pregnancy from developing any farther
Speaker 2: without any major side effects or problems at all. And
Speaker 2: then since you're going to be taking your other medicine buckley,
Speaker 2: which is in between your cheek and your gum, you're
Speaker 2: going to wait twenty four to forty eight hours after
Speaker 2: you take that first medicine to finish this process with
Speaker 2: the medication abortion. So whenever that timing works out best
Speaker 2: for you, when you're ready to take your second set
Speaker 2: of medicines, you're going to first take your nausea pill,
Speaker 2: which is called on dancetron or zofran. It dissolves on
Speaker 2: your tongue. You're going to take that. Then you're going
Speaker 2: to take one of your prescription ibuprofen pills, and you're
Speaker 2: gonna wait thirty minutes let those medicines get in your
Speaker 2: system and start working. The next thing that you're gonna
Speaker 2: take then is you're gonna take your four mesa prostal pills.
Speaker 2: You're gonna put two here and two here in between
Speaker 2: your cheek and your gum, and you're gonna leave them
Speaker 2: there for thirty minutes, swallow down whatever's left, and then
Speaker 2: the process will get started. It usually starts fairly quickly
Speaker 2: after you swallow those down. So that's why I want
Speaker 2: you to take that other medicine before you take your
Speaker 2: mesa prostal pills. Okay, so most people feel better within
Speaker 2: twelve hours. You should definitely feel better within twenty four hours.
Speaker 2: If you don't, or if at any point you're worried
Speaker 2: or concerned, that's when you want to call our on
Speaker 2: call nurse. As Jess said, we do have somebody who's
Speaker 2: on call twenty four hours a day, seven days a week.
Speaker 2: So if you have questions, that's when you want to
Speaker 2: give us a call. We are here to support you
Speaker 2: kind of before, during, and after, So make sure if
Speaker 2: you need us, let us know.
Speaker 5: Chap just confirming that you're okay doing these standardship.
Speaker 2: There's such a wide range of folks who access abortion care,
Speaker 2: whether that's through TST Health or anywhere else for that matter.
Speaker 2: And yes there are the teenagers who you know, got
Speaker 2: pregnant accidentally, didn't know or didn't care about birth girl whatever,
Speaker 2: all the way up to you know, the fifty one
Speaker 2: year old woman who thought she was going through menopause
Speaker 2: and oh crud, and I'm now pregnant and my children
Speaker 2: are already grown, or I never wanted to have children
Speaker 2: in the first place, or whatever the situation is. Through
Speaker 2: TST Health, we don't see anyone who is under seventeen,
Speaker 2: partially just because of you know, some minor abuse reporting
Speaker 2: in those kind of things. So we do see some
Speaker 2: older teenagers that's been a very very small percentage of
Speaker 2: who we seen. I see a lot of people who
Speaker 2: are in their twenties, mid to late twenties. We see
Speaker 2: a lot of people who are in their late thirties,
Speaker 2: and we've even seen a few people who are in
Speaker 2: their mid to late forties. And so I can't say
Speaker 2: that there's one demographic of who we see because we
Speaker 2: have seen the entire gamut of folks. Some patients do
Speaker 2: stand out. I was so proud of this young woman
Speaker 2: who I didn't even know, but she was in college
Speaker 2: unintentionally pregnant. She had all of these plans for her future,
Speaker 2: which she was able to share some with me, and
Speaker 2: she's probably going to be running the world someday, and
Speaker 2: pregnancy did not come into her plan. And so she
Speaker 2: filled out her paperwork. She wanted to talk about birth control.
Speaker 2: She was concerned about timing because she needed some she
Speaker 2: lived in the dorm, she needed a time when her
Speaker 2: roommate wasn't there, and she had some privacy. So we
Speaker 2: worked around her schedule. And that's the other beauty about
Speaker 2: TST health is that we can work around somebody's schedule. Okay,
Speaker 2: you know this was my roommate has a class from
Speaker 2: six to nine pm Mountain time. Can you please? Can
Speaker 2: we please? I'm like, absolutely, what time works for you.
Speaker 2: We went through the whole process. She had downloaded all
Speaker 2: over form. She had all of these questions. We got
Speaker 2: all of those questions answered. You know, she was firm
Speaker 2: and clear in her decision and didn't have family that
Speaker 2: she could turn to because of their beliefs, but her
Speaker 2: partner was supportive, and she had a friend who was
Speaker 2: supportive and had someone to help her kind of go
Speaker 2: through this process. And it was just it was wonderful
Speaker 2: to see this person is taking charge of their life.
Speaker 2: They know what they need, They've gotten the facts, they
Speaker 2: know how to take care of themselves. They reached out
Speaker 2: and they got the care that they needed. We were
Speaker 2: able to connect and do that, and she can have
Speaker 2: children at the time of her choosing. You know, we
Speaker 2: see people at some of their worst moments and to
Speaker 2: be able to say I hear you, and it's okay,
Speaker 2: and I can help you and let's talk about this
Speaker 2: to when maybe somebody else in their lives doesn't want
Speaker 2: to talk about it, or they didn't get any support,
Speaker 2: or they didn't nowhere else to go and it's just
Speaker 2: it's a wonderful career. Okay, great, Well, thank you so much,
Speaker 2: really appreciate it. Take care of yourself, and again, please
Speaker 2: reach out if you need us, because that's what we're
Speaker 2: here for.
Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much.
Speaker 5: I really appreciate it, and I just want to say,
Speaker 5: this is a great organization.
Speaker 1: You guys are doing great things for people. Well, thank you,
Speaker 1: Thank you guys very much.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. And like I said, take care
Speaker 2: of yourself and please let us know if you need
Speaker 2: anything from us.
Speaker 1: Thank you guys.
Speaker 2: All right, bye, bye bye. There's no way that I
Speaker 2: could do the work that I'm doing without the support
Speaker 2: of my family. You know, not only my partner of
Speaker 2: thirty five years, but you know my kids as well,
Speaker 2: who have their own set of beliefs and values, and
Speaker 2: everyone is just so supportive and has enabled me to
Speaker 2: do what I do and for that I'm really grateful.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I've talked to a lot of people who are looking
Speaker 2: at a nursing career or a nurse practitioner career, or
Speaker 2: you know, want to go into sexual and reproductive health
Speaker 2: or even specifically want to go into abortion care. And
Speaker 2: it's been the biggest honor and privilege to do what
Speaker 2: I do, and I wouldn't change a thing, and it's
Speaker 2: so awesome. Hard, but awesome. Yes, I am tearing up
Speaker 2: because it's just it's the best thing ever. As I'm
Speaker 2: finishing up my workday, I just kind of review and
Speaker 2: make sure that everything that was on my to do
Speaker 2: list today got done, or if it didn't, I just
Speaker 2: move it over to tomorrow. I turn out the light
Speaker 2: and leave my little office here in my house, and
Speaker 2: once I'm out in the living room, I usually pour
Speaker 2: a drink and touch base and connect with my partner. Okay, buppies,
Speaker 2: let's go outside. It's about nine thirty and I'm getting
Speaker 2: ready to.
Speaker 3: Go to bed.
Speaker 2: Usually let the dogs out for one last little romp
Speaker 2: around the yard.
Speaker 3: Good Night,