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Speaker 1: of this finally a show. Our finale is coming up

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Speaker 1: for this season next week. I can't believe it. This

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Speaker 1: is the weirdest thing that anyone's ever let us make.

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Speaker 1: So I want to shout out Leah Pictures and iHeart

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Speaker 1: for giving us the go ahead to make real old

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Speaker 1: fashioned audio documentaries. We wanted to rerun this episode from

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Speaker 1: a few weeks ago, featuring an abortion provider. She prescribes

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Speaker 1: people miff A, Prestone and the associated drugs needed for

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Speaker 1: medical abortion. But of course, now we all know this

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Speaker 1: is in front of the Supreme Court, so it's important listening.

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Speaker 1: Please quote unquote enjoy and we'll see you next week

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Speaker 1: with our final episode.

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Speaker 2: So it's around six point thirty and I'm just getting

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Speaker 2: This morning, I'm going to go ahead and text my

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Speaker 2: about the time the dogs come back in, I know

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Speaker 2: really lucky that she calls me every morning on her

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Speaker 1: This is finally a show about an abortion provider for

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Speaker 1: over twenty five years. Jamie Rich is a nurse with

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Speaker 1: the Satanic Temple's first ever telehealth abortion clinic.

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Speaker 2: My name is Jamie. I am an OBGYN nurse practitioner.

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Speaker 2: I'm lucky enough that I get to work from home

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Speaker 2: in northwestern Colorado and I provide telehealth services to people

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Speaker 2: in New Mexico. I can remember at four or five

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Speaker 2: someone asking me what do you want to be when

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Speaker 2: I never wanted to be a doctor. I feel like

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Speaker 2: the person who has a breast slump or the person

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Speaker 2: possibly their religious or spiritual beliefs, what's going on in

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Speaker 2: different philosophy of care that just worked better with my

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Speaker 2: I grew up in kind of a conservative family. My

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Speaker 2: you don't talk about that because that doesn't happen until

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Speaker 2: so I think a little bit was that normal kind

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Speaker 2: of teenage rebellion. I'm going to figure out who I am.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to figure out what my beliefs are and

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Speaker 2: And to my parents' credit, they were like, you know what,

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Speaker 2: if that's what you want to do, that's what you

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Speaker 2: right when I graduated from college, we got married, we

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Speaker 2: The community is supportive, or if they're not supportive, then

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Speaker 2: it's basically whatever you know, don't you do what you

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Speaker 2: not going to support it either. So I left Plant

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Speaker 2: Planned Parenthood, though, I had been approached by some folks

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Speaker 2: who were starting TST Health, which is the telehealth that

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Speaker 2: in New Mexico. TST Health is the Satanic Temple Health,

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Speaker 2: which then provides the care to the Samuel Alito's Mother's

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Speaker 3: So get your abortion today and the name of sam

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Speaker 2: You can find out more on our website. And you

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Speaker 2: based on facts. The telehealth laws within New Mexico are

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Speaker 2: At this point, it's a startup. It's less than a

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Speaker 2: they are us using religion, especially Christianity religion to state

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Speaker 2: restricting or outright banning abortion, is that you are infringing

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Speaker 2: upon my religious convictions. The mission of the Satanic Temple

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Speaker 2: is to encourage benevolence and empathy, you know, to really

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Speaker 2: important for this group. They oppose in justice like taking

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Speaker 2: the fundamental tenets of the Satanic Temples, so there are

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Speaker 2: seven of them. The ones that we tend to use

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Speaker 2: their procedure is that one's body is inviolable, subject to

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Speaker 2: we are providing care that is based on the best practices,

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Speaker 2: and not having certain groups marginalized. Freedom of others should

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Speaker 2: And then the last one just talks about all of

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Speaker 2: those groups that may be marginalized, that we should be

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Speaker 2: looking at the written and spoken word and using all

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Speaker 2: in their communities. I think when people hear the Satanic Temple,

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Speaker 2: you really cannot make this stuff up.

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Speaker 4: This group pledges to provide quote religious medication.

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Speaker 3: Abortion care and not how they identify themselves as not

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Speaker 3: believing in a literal Satan. But when you associate yourself

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Speaker 3: So how are we supposed to believe that that's even true?

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Speaker 4: Our petitioning for access to abortion, and what they say

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Speaker 2: You know that they're sacrificing and all of these horrible

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Speaker 2: you know, this is a really professional organization. We are

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Speaker 2: everything that we're asking is very clear and has a

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Speaker 2: So this is really funny. Actually it's a funny story.

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Speaker 2: So my daughter was in college and she did a

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Speaker 2: I don't want to stay here. I really want to

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Speaker 2: come home. And I'm part of the Satanic Temple too.

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Speaker 2: I joined because you know, I just I just thought

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Speaker 2: which is called on dancetron or zofran. It dissolves on

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Speaker 2: your tongue. You're going to take that. Then you're going

436
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Speaker 2: to take one of your prescription ibuprofen pills, and you're

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Speaker 2: gonna wait thirty minutes let those medicines get in your

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Speaker 2: system and start working. The next thing that you're gonna

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Speaker 2: take then is you're gonna take your four mesa prostal pills.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna put two here and two here in between

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Speaker 2: your cheek and your gum, and you're gonna leave them

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Speaker 2: there for thirty minutes, swallow down whatever's left, and then

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Speaker 2: the process will get started. It usually starts fairly quickly

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Speaker 2: after you swallow those down. So that's why I want

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Speaker 2: you to take that other medicine before you take your

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Speaker 2: mesa prostal pills. Okay, so most people feel better within

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Speaker 2: twelve hours. You should definitely feel better within twenty four hours.

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Speaker 2: If you don't, or if at any point you're worried

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Speaker 2: or concerned, that's when you want to call our on

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Speaker 2: call nurse. As Jess said, we do have somebody who's

451
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Speaker 2: on call twenty four hours a day, seven days a week.

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Speaker 2: So if you have questions, that's when you want to

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Speaker 2: give us a call. We are here to support you

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Speaker 2: kind of before, during, and after, So make sure if

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Speaker 2: you need us, let us know.

456
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 5: Chap just confirming that you're okay doing these standardship.

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Speaker 2: There's such a wide range of folks who access abortion care,

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Speaker 2: whether that's through TST Health or anywhere else for that matter.

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Speaker 2: And yes there are the teenagers who you know, got

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Speaker 2: pregnant accidentally, didn't know or didn't care about birth girl whatever,

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Speaker 2: all the way up to you know, the fifty one

462
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Speaker 2: year old woman who thought she was going through menopause

463
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Speaker 2: and oh crud, and I'm now pregnant and my children

464
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Speaker 2: are already grown, or I never wanted to have children

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Speaker 2: in the first place, or whatever the situation is. Through

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Speaker 2: TST Health, we don't see anyone who is under seventeen,

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Speaker 2: partially just because of you know, some minor abuse reporting

468
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Speaker 2: in those kind of things. So we do see some

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Speaker 2: older teenagers that's been a very very small percentage of

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Speaker 2: who we seen. I see a lot of people who

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Speaker 2: are in their twenties, mid to late twenties. We see

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Speaker 2: a lot of people who are in their late thirties,

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Speaker 2: and we've even seen a few people who are in

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Speaker 2: their mid to late forties. And so I can't say

475
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Speaker 2: that there's one demographic of who we see because we

476
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 2: have seen the entire gamut of folks. Some patients do

477
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Speaker 2: stand out. I was so proud of this young woman

478
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Speaker 2: who I didn't even know, but she was in college

479
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Speaker 2: unintentionally pregnant. She had all of these plans for her future,

480
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Speaker 2: which she was able to share some with me, and

481
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Speaker 2: she's probably going to be running the world someday, and

482
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Speaker 2: pregnancy did not come into her plan. And so she

483
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Speaker 2: filled out her paperwork. She wanted to talk about birth control.

484
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Speaker 2: She was concerned about timing because she needed some she

485
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Speaker 2: lived in the dorm, she needed a time when her

486
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Speaker 2: roommate wasn't there, and she had some privacy. So we

487
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Speaker 2: worked around her schedule. And that's the other beauty about

488
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Speaker 2: TST health is that we can work around somebody's schedule. Okay,

489
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Speaker 2: you know this was my roommate has a class from

490
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Speaker 2: six to nine pm Mountain time. Can you please? Can

491
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Speaker 2: we please? I'm like, absolutely, what time works for you.

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Speaker 2: We went through the whole process. She had downloaded all

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Speaker 2: over form. She had all of these questions. We got

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Speaker 2: all of those questions answered. You know, she was firm

495
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Speaker 2: and clear in her decision and didn't have family that

496
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Speaker 2: she could turn to because of their beliefs, but her

497
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Speaker 2: partner was supportive, and she had a friend who was

498
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Speaker 2: supportive and had someone to help her kind of go

499
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Speaker 2: through this process. And it was just it was wonderful

500
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Speaker 2: to see this person is taking charge of their life.

501
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Speaker 2: They know what they need, They've gotten the facts, they

502
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Speaker 2: know how to take care of themselves. They reached out

503
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 2: and they got the care that they needed. We were

504
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 2: able to connect and do that, and she can have

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Speaker 2: children at the time of her choosing. You know, we

506
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 2: see people at some of their worst moments and to

507
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Speaker 2: be able to say I hear you, and it's okay,

508
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Speaker 2: and I can help you and let's talk about this

509
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Speaker 2: to when maybe somebody else in their lives doesn't want

510
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Speaker 2: to talk about it, or they didn't get any support,

511
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Speaker 2: or they didn't nowhere else to go and it's just

512
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Speaker 2: it's a wonderful career. Okay, great, Well, thank you so much,

513
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 2: really appreciate it. Take care of yourself, and again, please

514
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 2: reach out if you need us, because that's what we're

515
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Speaker 2: here for.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much.

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Speaker 5: I really appreciate it, and I just want to say,

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Speaker 5: this is a great organization.

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Speaker 1: You guys are doing great things for people. Well, thank you,

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys very much.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. And like I said, take care

522
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Speaker 2: of yourself and please let us know if you need

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Speaker 2: anything from us.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys.

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Speaker 2: All right, bye, bye bye. There's no way that I

526
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Speaker 2: could do the work that I'm doing without the support

527
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Speaker 2: of my family. You know, not only my partner of

528
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 2: thirty five years, but you know my kids as well,

529
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 2: who have their own set of beliefs and values, and

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Speaker 2: everyone is just so supportive and has enabled me to

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Speaker 2: do what I do and for that I'm really grateful.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: I've talked to a lot of people who are looking

534
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 2: at a nursing career or a nurse practitioner career, or

535
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Speaker 2: you know, want to go into sexual and reproductive health

536
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Speaker 2: or even specifically want to go into abortion care. And

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Speaker 2: it's been the biggest honor and privilege to do what

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Speaker 2: I do, and I wouldn't change a thing, and it's

539
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Speaker 2: so awesome. Hard, but awesome. Yes, I am tearing up

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Speaker 2: because it's just it's the best thing ever. As I'm

541
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Speaker 2: finishing up my workday, I just kind of review and

542
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 2: make sure that everything that was on my to do

543
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 2: list today got done, or if it didn't, I just

544
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Speaker 2: move it over to tomorrow. I turn out the light

545
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Speaker 2: and leave my little office here in my house, and

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Speaker 2: once I'm out in the living room, I usually pour

547
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Speaker 2: a drink and touch base and connect with my partner. Okay, buppies,

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00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 2: let's go outside. It's about nine thirty and I'm getting

549
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Speaker 2: ready to.

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Speaker 3: Go to bed.

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Speaker 2: Usually let the dogs out for one last little romp

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Speaker 2: around the yard.

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Speaker 3: Good Night,