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Speaker 1: Black and Gold are Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson. Always

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Speaker 1: good to have Bob Labriola on with us, says we

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Speaker 1: did in the last segment. Lots of lots of good

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Speaker 1: stuff there from Bob. But we are now rolling through

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Speaker 1: our mock draft here. We're using the Draft Networks draft

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