WEBVTT - And, This is Escape From Alcatraz

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<v Speaker 1>This is Gavin Newsom and this is Escape from Alcatraz. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to thank everybody for leaving voice messages calling

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<v Speaker 1>into the show. And one of the things that lit

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<v Speaker 1>up the voicemail line this week was Alcatraz. Yes, the Rock,

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<v Speaker 1>Escape from Alcatraz. Here we are I can't even make you,

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<v Speaker 1>cannot make this up. Here we are at the moment,

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<v Speaker 1>this critical moment in American history, and here we are

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<v Speaker 1>with a brand new distraction distraction day in the United

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<v Speaker 1>States of America. And so as a former mayor, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not surprising and yes, governor of the state of California,

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<v Speaker 1>that those calls made their way to the inbox.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi. My name is Tara Trivini. I am a resident

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<v Speaker 2>and I've seen lisas California, loved in California my whole life.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to find out if our governor is going

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<v Speaker 2>to react to Trump's claim to wanting to reopen Alcatraz.

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<v Speaker 1>Am.

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<v Speaker 2>I at this point a lot of city says, we're

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<v Speaker 2>just like, what but him to a left field with

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<v Speaker 2>so much crap it's ridiculous. Okay, So yeah, response please,

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<v Speaker 2>that would be amazing. Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, I love I love the question. I

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<v Speaker 3>love the way you phrased the question. I love the

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<v Speaker 3>way you laughed when you left that.

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<v Speaker 1>Voicemail, because I think that's how all of us, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the overwhelming majority of us, responded to this.

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<v Speaker 3>I responded quite formally, by.

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<v Speaker 1>The way, with a tweet that said, this was just

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<v Speaker 1>simply distraction day in Washington, d C. It wasn't just

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<v Speaker 1>reopening Alcatraz as a federal prison, but he also asked

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<v Speaker 1>and called for asked the Commerce Department, and called for

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<v Speaker 1>new tariffs on foreign made films. So this is what

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump does. He doesn't care if he's the heel

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<v Speaker 1>or the hero, as long as he's the star and

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about him. And this is why it's so

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<v Speaker 1>important that we sort of distill the essence of what

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<v Speaker 1>Trump is actually communicating, what he's actually doing that has

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<v Speaker 1>a real impact in our lives. So everybody's chasing this,

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<v Speaker 1>It's totally understandable. I totally appreciate the question, and here

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<v Speaker 1>I am responding to it because heck, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a fifth generation San Francisco from a mayor of San Francisco,

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<v Speaker 1>So what would you expect? How could I not respond

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<v Speaker 1>to this? I think I, by the way, may have

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<v Speaker 1>commented to one reporter that it proposal has the form

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<v Speaker 1>and substance of fog, meaning there is quite literally no

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<v Speaker 1>there there. I'll remind you speaking to know they're there.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no water, there's no operating sewer system. What is

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<v Speaker 1>there is a dilapidated old prison that was designed in

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen thirties, nineteen thirty three that Bobby Kennedy, not

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<v Speaker 1>junior Bobby Kennedy, Robert Kennedy, the Attorney General of the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>announced in nineteen sixty two that he was going to

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<v Speaker 1>shut down and did actually shut down in nineteen sixty three.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think Donald Trump's mindset is maybe nineteen eighty three.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm making that up.

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<v Speaker 1>But when the Rock came out, and when Escape from

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<v Speaker 1>Alcatraz sort of iconic movies, and there's sort of an

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<v Speaker 1>indelible sense of place that is attached to Alcatraz.

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<v Speaker 3>It's evocative.

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<v Speaker 1>Al Capone was there, Whitey Bulger was their machine gun.

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly was there, but not many other people were there.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it has a capacity of about three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and thirty three hundred and thirty six cells. Anyone that's visited,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've been there on multiple occasions. I imagine many

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<v Speaker 1>people watching and listening have as well. It's corroded. You

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<v Speaker 1>have all that salt water intrusion. You've got a place

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<v Speaker 1>that would quite literally doge are you listening, quite literally

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<v Speaker 1>cost hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>would be the most expensive federal prison in the system.

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<v Speaker 1>It's completely unnecessary. And again it's all intended to be

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<v Speaker 1>a distraction. So we're focused on this and candidly not

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<v Speaker 1>focused on the real issue, which are these tariffs and

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<v Speaker 1>the impact that's having and wrecking on our economy, and

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<v Speaker 1>how it's impacting small businesses, and it's impacting each and

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<v Speaker 1>every one of you watching and listening in more ways

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<v Speaker 1>on more days than anything else that Donald Trump is

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<v Speaker 1>currently doing. And so that's why I think he did this.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll just close on this. Don't do this to

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco and California, and don't do this to tourism.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of the drivers of tourism in the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>A million plus people I think it's one point two

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<v Speaker 1>million last year came to Alcatraz and the island. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the Park Service that runs it generates sixty million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars a year in revenue. Back to my Doge point,

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<v Speaker 1>this would cost tens of millions of dollars. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to bring people onto the island, the workforce and everything else.

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<v Speaker 1>He specifically directed his Department of Justice, and he directed

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<v Speaker 1>a secretary Bergham, to start to put together.

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<v Speaker 3>A plan of action on this.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I pray that they're focused on other things

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<v Speaker 1>and not focused on the folly of this latest distraction.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is about zigging and zagging in a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks, will be a couple of days, maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>couple hours, maybe today, maybe as I speak, there is

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<v Speaker 1>something out there that I'm not looking at that's the

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<v Speaker 1>next day's distraction. And this is what Donald Trump does

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<v Speaker 1>better than anybody else, gets us all talking about something

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<v Speaker 1>so that we're not talking about something else.

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<v Speaker 3>And so the critical thing from my.

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<v Speaker 1>Humble perspective is we've got to focus on what really matters,

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<v Speaker 1>what's essential, and again issue right now for Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>that is hurting him more than any other issue. And

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot and I'm not trying to stack up

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<v Speaker 1>any sort of well, I'm not trying to diminish the

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<v Speaker 1>other issues. But it's the terroriffs the economy. You're, for

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<v Speaker 1>one case, what's happened in the markets. What's not happening

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<v Speaker 1>is it relates to imports, and what's not happening as

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<v Speaker 1>it relates to the kind of certainty that people need

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<v Speaker 1>and small businesses need in order to make decisions. What

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<v Speaker 1>may happen to your school supplies because they're not coming

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<v Speaker 1>into the ports of entry. What may happen, my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>if it's just a few more months of these tariffs,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly to China, what may happen as it relates to

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<v Speaker 1>your Christmas choice that may not be on the shelves

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<v Speaker 1>later in the year. And Donald Trump is under deep

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<v Speaker 1>pressure on that issue. So I would expect to continue

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<v Speaker 1>to try to relieve some of that pressure in that

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<v Speaker 1>focus by bringing more of this nonsense to bear and

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<v Speaker 1>getting us all to chase these stories.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'll just close. Yeah, we had to chase it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, my phone lit up with reporters, people calling

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<v Speaker 1>me saying is this real? Can this be true? What

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<v Speaker 1>are your thoughts on it? Can you stop it? And

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that there were real reporters in real concern,

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<v Speaker 1>frankly concerns me more than anything else. Form absence of fog.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no there there focus on something else. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>the number of calls that I received, the number of

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<v Speaker 1>voicemails and text messages from reputable reporters all across the country,

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<v Speaker 1>from around the world, from other elected officials saying help,

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<v Speaker 1>what are we going to do?

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<v Speaker 3>Can we stop this? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>And I told everybody you got it, you cannot. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to be kidding me. This is going nowhere.

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<v Speaker 1>This is distraction Day in the United States of America. Everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>don't worry about it, don't panic. You're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>on that island as a tourist for decades, decades to come.