1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:09,159 Speaker 1: This is Gavin Newsom and this is Escape from Alcatraz. Well, 2 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: I want to thank everybody for leaving voice messages calling 3 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: into the show. And one of the things that lit 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: up the voicemail line this week was Alcatraz. Yes, the Rock, 5 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: Escape from Alcatraz. Here we are I can't even make you, 6 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: cannot make this up. Here we are at the moment, 7 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: this critical moment in American history, and here we are 8 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: with a brand new distraction distraction day in the United 9 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 1: States of America. And so as a former mayor, it's 10 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 1: not surprising and yes, governor of the state of California, 11 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: that those calls made their way to the inbox. 12 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 2: Hi. My name is Tara Trivini. I am a resident 13 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 2: and I've seen lisas California, loved in California my whole life. 14 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 2: I wanted to find out if our governor is going 15 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: to react to Trump's claim to wanting to reopen Alcatraz. 16 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: Am. 17 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 2: I at this point a lot of city says, we're 18 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: just like, what but him to a left field with 19 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 2: so much crap it's ridiculous. Okay, So yeah, response please, 20 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 2: that would be amazing. Thank you so much. 21 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 3: First of all, I love I love the question. I 22 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 3: love the way you phrased the question. I love the 23 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 3: way you laughed when you left that. 24 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: Voicemail, because I think that's how all of us, I mean, 25 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: the overwhelming majority of us, responded to this. 26 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 3: I responded quite formally, by. 27 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: The way, with a tweet that said, this was just 28 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: simply distraction day in Washington, d C. It wasn't just 29 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: reopening Alcatraz as a federal prison, but he also asked 30 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: and called for asked the Commerce Department, and called for 31 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: new tariffs on foreign made films. So this is what 32 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: Donald Trump does. He doesn't care if he's the heel 33 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: or the hero, as long as he's the star and 34 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: we're talking about him. And this is why it's so 35 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: important that we sort of distill the essence of what 36 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: Trump is actually communicating, what he's actually doing that has 37 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: a real impact in our lives. So everybody's chasing this, 38 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: It's totally understandable. I totally appreciate the question, and here 39 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: I am responding to it because heck, you know, I'm 40 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: a fifth generation San Francisco from a mayor of San Francisco, 41 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: So what would you expect? How could I not respond 42 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: to this? I think I, by the way, may have 43 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: commented to one reporter that it proposal has the form 44 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: and substance of fog, meaning there is quite literally no 45 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: there there. I'll remind you speaking to know they're there. 46 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: There's no water, there's no operating sewer system. What is 47 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: there is a dilapidated old prison that was designed in 48 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: the nineteen thirties, nineteen thirty three that Bobby Kennedy, not 49 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: junior Bobby Kennedy, Robert Kennedy, the Attorney General of the United States, 50 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: announced in nineteen sixty two that he was going to 51 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: shut down and did actually shut down in nineteen sixty three. 52 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: But I think Donald Trump's mindset is maybe nineteen eighty three. 53 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 3: I'm making that up. 54 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: But when the Rock came out, and when Escape from 55 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: Alcatraz sort of iconic movies, and there's sort of an 56 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: indelible sense of place that is attached to Alcatraz. 57 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 3: It's evocative. 58 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: Al Capone was there, Whitey Bulger was their machine gun. 59 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 1: Kelly was there, but not many other people were there. 60 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: I think it has a capacity of about three hundred 61 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: and thirty three hundred and thirty six cells. Anyone that's visited, 62 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: and I've been there on multiple occasions. I imagine many 63 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: people watching and listening have as well. It's corroded. You 64 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: have all that salt water intrusion. You've got a place 65 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: that would quite literally doge are you listening, quite literally 66 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: cost hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars, 67 00:03:55,960 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: would be the most expensive federal prison in the system. 68 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: It's completely unnecessary. And again it's all intended to be 69 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: a distraction. So we're focused on this and candidly not 70 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: focused on the real issue, which are these tariffs and 71 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: the impact that's having and wrecking on our economy, and 72 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 1: how it's impacting small businesses, and it's impacting each and 73 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: every one of you watching and listening in more ways 74 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: on more days than anything else that Donald Trump is 75 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: currently doing. And so that's why I think he did this. 76 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: And I'll just close on this. Don't do this to 77 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: San Francisco and California, and don't do this to tourism. 78 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: It's one of the drivers of tourism in the United States. 79 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 1: A million plus people I think it's one point two 80 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: million last year came to Alcatraz and the island. I 81 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,119 Speaker 1: think the Park Service that runs it generates sixty million 82 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 1: dollars a year in revenue. Back to my Doge point, 83 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: this would cost tens of millions of dollars. You have 84 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: to bring people onto the island, the workforce and everything else. 85 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: He specifically directed his Department of Justice, and he directed 86 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: a secretary Bergham, to start to put together. 87 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 3: A plan of action on this. 88 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: I mean, I pray that they're focused on other things 89 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: and not focused on the folly of this latest distraction. 90 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: And this is about zigging and zagging in a couple 91 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: of weeks, will be a couple of days, maybe a 92 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: couple hours, maybe today, maybe as I speak, there is 93 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 1: something out there that I'm not looking at that's the 94 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: next day's distraction. And this is what Donald Trump does 95 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 1: better than anybody else, gets us all talking about something 96 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 1: so that we're not talking about something else. 97 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 3: And so the critical thing from my. 98 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: Humble perspective is we've got to focus on what really matters, 99 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: what's essential, and again issue right now for Donald Trump 100 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: that is hurting him more than any other issue. And 101 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: there's a lot and I'm not trying to stack up 102 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: any sort of well, I'm not trying to diminish the 103 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: other issues. But it's the terroriffs the economy. You're, for 104 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: one case, what's happened in the markets. What's not happening 105 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: is it relates to imports, and what's not happening as 106 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 1: it relates to the kind of certainty that people need 107 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: and small businesses need in order to make decisions. What 108 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: may happen to your school supplies because they're not coming 109 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: into the ports of entry. What may happen, my gosh, 110 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: if it's just a few more months of these tariffs, 111 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 1: particularly to China, what may happen as it relates to 112 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: your Christmas choice that may not be on the shelves 113 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: later in the year. And Donald Trump is under deep 114 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: pressure on that issue. So I would expect to continue 115 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: to try to relieve some of that pressure in that 116 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: focus by bringing more of this nonsense to bear and 117 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: getting us all to chase these stories. 118 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 3: And I'll just close. Yeah, we had to chase it. 119 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 1: I mean, my phone lit up with reporters, people calling 120 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: me saying is this real? Can this be true? What 121 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: are your thoughts on it? Can you stop it? And 122 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: the fact that there were real reporters in real concern, 123 00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 1: frankly concerns me more than anything else. Form absence of fog. 124 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: There's no there there focus on something else. By the way, 125 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: the number of calls that I received, the number of 126 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: voicemails and text messages from reputable reporters all across the country, 127 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,239 Speaker 1: from around the world, from other elected officials saying help, 128 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: what are we going to do? 129 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 3: Can we stop this? Uh? 130 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: And I told everybody you got it, you cannot. I mean, 131 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: you've got to be kidding me. This is going nowhere. 132 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: This is distraction Day in the United States of America. Everybody, 133 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: don't worry about it, don't panic. You're going to be 134 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: on that island as a tourist for decades, decades to come.