1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Can't find AM six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 2: Lou Penrose sitting in for John Covelt this week. Good 4 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 2: to be with you. 5 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 3: Billionaires back in the crosshairs in California have proposed billionaire tax, 6 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 3: one time five percent tax on billionaires as billionaires weighing 7 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 3: leaving California over over the next to over the next year. 8 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 3: And why wouldn't they do? His Nation's Denise get Him, 9 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 3: gets Him is with us. She's been covering the story. 10 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 3: So who where is this coming from? The governor hasn't 11 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 3: weighed in on it, so it's not coming from the governor. 12 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 2: There are progressives. 13 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 3: Angling to be the most anti billionaire person in the legislature. 14 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 3: Is this coming from the Assembly? Is it coming from 15 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 3: a grassroots organization? Tax proponents? 16 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 2: Where's this coming from? 17 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 4: It's coming from the unions, which is really the power 18 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 4: source for all democratic politics in California. Interestingly, new Some 19 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 4: this is the one time in my whole life has 20 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 4: committed a lifelong conservative that I've ever sided with Newsom 21 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 4: because probably because he's opposed to it, probably because it 22 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 4: impacts him most likely, So he's come out publicly. He's 23 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 4: actually raising the money against this effort, if you can 24 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 4: believe it. Hopefully he throws as much of his you know, time, money, 25 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 4: and effort and celebrity, you know, resources into stopping this 26 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 4: billionaire's tax as he did with Prop fifty. So you 27 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 4: know who knows all I know is Tom Steyer Rocanna. 28 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 4: A lot of other really prominent billionaire Democrats are saying 29 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 4: therefore it And here's my question. This is the question 30 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 4: I think everyone needs to ask themselves. If all these 31 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,839 Speaker 4: wealthy billionaire you know, politicians who are posturing Tom Saire 32 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 4: is going to be running for governor, Rokanna is going 33 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 4: to be running for president, if they wanted to give 34 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 4: all this money away, they are totally able to do 35 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 4: so right now. They don't have to tell anyone else 36 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 4: to do with their money. But they are totally free 37 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 4: to wipe California's deficit out, the one that the AVENUWSOM 38 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 4: caused by simply giving their money. Now, they don't need 39 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 4: to wait and change the law enforce everyone else to 40 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 4: fund their priorities. They can simply do it themselves. And 41 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,839 Speaker 4: yet they choose to impose this kind of pain and 42 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 4: ultimately not just on the billionaires. This is going to 43 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 4: impact California's tax space so negatively that even Gavi Newsom 44 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 4: has spoken out about that. So it's a huge mistake 45 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 4: and it's going to cause further dependence on people with 46 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 4: a lot of money that aren't going to be there 47 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 4: for much longer. 48 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the billionaires who are weighing their options. 49 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 3: Where do you go? I mean obviously out of state, 50 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 3: but where can you go? How does that work? I 51 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 3: hear people that are setting up residencies in Florida and 52 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 3: Puerto Rico. 53 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 2: How does that all work? 54 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 4: Well, they're not just setting them up. Most billionaires have 55 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,839 Speaker 4: a bunch of houses. That's actually Governor Newsom actually talked 56 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 4: about this. You know, you said most this is stupid 57 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 4: because most billionaires really have multiple residencies. Whether they move 58 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 4: to another state or another country, it's no problem for them. 59 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 4: They've got plenty of people who can make that happen 60 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 4: in the tap of a finger. And what's interesting is 61 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 4: they ask are putting this on a ballot initiative to 62 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 4: pass in November, and it'll be retroactive to January. Another 63 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 4: interesting point is. 64 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 2: That wait a minute, it goes backwards in time. That's incredible. 65 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 4: It goes backwards. It goes backwards. And it's not about 66 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 4: how much wealth you have in the sense of how 67 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 4: much income you have. It's it's calculated based on how 68 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 4: many assets you have. So if you have no realized wealth, 69 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 4: but you have a billion dollars in assets that might 70 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 4: be tied up in a million other things, you'd have 71 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 4: to basically liquidate a lot of those assets to even 72 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 4: pay this amount of money that they're going to be 73 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 4: asked to pay. So nobody is that stupid to stick 74 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 4: around and be subject to this kind of abuse. And 75 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 4: we all know that it starts with billionaires, but then 76 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 4: it's going to be, well, anyone with a million dollars 77 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 4: is going to be the next target, right because they 78 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 4: have too much money. It's so much more than we do. Oh, 79 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 4: and then it's going to be the people making half 80 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 4: a million dollars. We know this is a slippery slope. 81 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 4: This is what politicians do and everyone should be concerned 82 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 4: about it. 83 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 3: Well there, without question, here in California, progresses are trying 84 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 3: to out progress of each other, and they've decided that 85 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 3: millionaires and billionaires are the real enemy. That's the reason 86 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 3: that your lot in life stocks is because other people 87 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 3: are doing really well. So what we want to do 88 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 3: is take away people showing take money from people showing 89 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 3: a profit, and add it. 90 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: To a government running a debt. But let's get for 91 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 2: this for a moment. Why labor unions. 92 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 3: You would think that labor unions flourish when millionaires and 93 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 3: billionaires invest in projects, invest in factories, invest in ventures. 94 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 2: Right, the. 95 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 3: Millionaires employed laborers, so why would a labor be mad 96 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 3: at them? 97 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 4: They're talking about directing this money the schools and other healthcare. 98 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 4: It was actually initiated by somebody in the healthcare community, 99 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 4: the nonprofit healthcare community, ironically, and all of the unions. 100 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 4: One thing I know about working in Sacramento just a little. 101 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 4: I'm mostly in Washington, DC for the political I work 102 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 4: that I do, but a lot of some of what 103 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 4: I've done is in Sacramento. And what I've seen is 104 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 4: that there is a coalition of unions and teachers. And 105 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 4: it has to do with the teachers unions, it has 106 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 4: to do with the SEIU, It has to do with 107 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 4: all sorts of really interesting interwoven connections where they support 108 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 4: each other and use each other as covers for what 109 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 4: they may want to promote, but may seem unseemly. And 110 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 4: so in this case, it's actually the SEIU and I 111 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 4: forgot the other labor unions, but those are the ones 112 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 4: that are pushing to say, hey, let's follow this money 113 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 4: into schools, which you know is hard to argue against 114 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 4: if you're bleeding hard, you really, even if you're not, 115 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 4: you want to see your kids thrive, right right the thing, 116 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 4: let's follow these into schools, let's want of these into 117 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 4: low income you know, healthcare, and that's that's really what 118 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 4: they're using as a front. But you know, unfortunately they're 119 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 4: not dealing with the systemic issues with the California you 120 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 4: know government in Sacramento, which does not have any systemic 121 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 4: sort of reform to turn what used to be a 122 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 4: surplus into a deficit back into a surplus. So we're 123 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,799 Speaker 4: just throwing money at a problem without any real requirement 124 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 4: or accountability to fix it. 125 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 3: It's going to be interesting to see as the governor 126 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 3: is working or stated to be working against it, We'll 127 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 3: see how successful he is. Because that millionaires and billionaires 128 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 3: not paying their fair share narrative that's hit hard. 129 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 2: They hit that one hard. 130 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 4: Dangerous one. 131 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 2: It's a very dangerous one. 132 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 4: I agree, dangerous one. It's a dangerous one because it 133 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 4: causes Marxism to really rise up. That sense of redistribution 134 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 4: of wealth, which is the anathema of the capitalism that 135 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 4: is lifted a trillion people out of poverty. The opposite 136 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 4: is Marxism, and Marxism is evil because it's greed at 137 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 4: the heart of it. It says I want what you 138 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 4: have and I don't want to have to work for it. 139 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 4: So this is a dangerous mentality. I'm not surprised to 140 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 4: see Democrats, who are very ambitious and are on the 141 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 4: progressive trained buying into it. But I pray to God 142 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 4: that Calfnians are not co opted into it. 143 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 2: Denise, get some news Nation. Thank you so much, good 144 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 2: to have you with us. 145 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 4: Happy New Year, Thank you, Happy Year to you. 146 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 3: Lou Penrose in for John Coblt on kf I AM 147 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 3: six forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 148 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI A 149 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 5: six forty. 150 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 3: Lou Penrose Info John Coblt all this week on The 151 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 3: John Cobelt Show, talking about the billionaire tax proposal. 152 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 2: We just talked with Denise get some of news nation, and. 153 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 3: So the components of how it got here are interesting 154 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 3: to me. So the labor unions and healthcare providers they 155 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 3: wanted on the ballot Democrats and Progress's wanted on a ballot. 156 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: It's a real rallying cry. 157 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 3: There's a war going on in California among the Democrats. 158 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 3: The Democrats are having their own Tea Party. Do you 159 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 3: remember the Tea Party? The Tea Party was a Republican 160 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 3: family fight back in the day. It was during the 161 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 3: Obama administration, and it was over overspending, and there were 162 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 3: Republicans that did not want to consider continued to deficit 163 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 3: spend and did not want to agree to Obama budgets 164 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 3: that continued to spend more money than we took in 165 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 3: and increase the debt. That's what TA stood for in 166 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 3: the Tea Party movement. It wasn't the Boston Tea Party. 167 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 3: The t and Tea Party stood for taxed enough already. 168 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 3: We don't want more taxes to spend more money. We 169 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 3: want to reign in government spending. We want to shut 170 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 3: down the government if we have to, but force President 171 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 3: Obama to not sign budgets that spend more than we 172 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 3: have and increase the debt, and Republicans that were interested 173 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:36,359 Speaker 3: in bipartisan budget signings were getting primaried by other Republicans. 174 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 3: In other words, Republicans were saying, if you signed this, 175 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 3: if you vote for this, I'm running against you as 176 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 3: a rhino. 177 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 2: I'm going to say you're a rhino. I'm an actual Republican. 178 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 3: I'll stand up to Obama. And that was the Republican 179 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 3: Tea Party movement, and it was tough. It was tough 180 00:08:54,960 --> 00:09:01,239 Speaker 3: for Republicans. Those you know interleague fights are now Democrats 181 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 3: are having their own tea party, and the tea Party 182 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 3: is over who is more progressive. 183 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 2: And this billionaire's tax falls right in line. 184 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 3: Getting even with the millionaires and billionaires is what the 185 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 3: progressives are all about. So if you're a Democrat and 186 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 3: you're just a normal Democrat, if that's even a thing, 187 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 3: you're gonna get primaried by a crazy Democrat that says 188 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 3: you don't hate the millionaires and billionaires enough, and you 189 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 3: don't want to punish them enough, and you don't hate 190 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 3: Trump enough, and you're not fighting him enough. 191 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 2: Therefore, I'm going. 192 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 3: To run to the left of you and be a 193 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 3: more progressive Democrat and that fight's going on, and this 194 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 3: billionaire tax falls right in line. 195 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 2: It gives them a tool to. 196 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 3: Hammer the other Democrat over the head with are you 197 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 3: in favor of the million of the billionaire tax? 198 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 2: And if you're a Democrat and you. 199 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 3: Say, well no, because that'll cause the billionaires to leave, 200 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 3: then the really the Democrat socialist that will be primarying 201 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 3: you will say that you love millionaires and billionaires and 202 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 3: you're not fit, and you'll lose, and the more progressive 203 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 3: Democrat will win. 204 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 2: And that fight is happening. 205 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 3: And I've watched this for a while and I've heard 206 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 3: lots of words being tossed about. And we just heard 207 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 3: from our guest from NewsNation, and she's right when she 208 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 3: says a billionaire's tax is terrible, it's a slippery slope. 209 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 2: It's Marxism. I hear all these terms, and I don't 210 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 2: think they're effective. 211 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 3: I'm a I'm a former political speech writer. I believe 212 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 3: in words that work, and Marxism doesn't work. Calling Zron 213 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 3: Mondami a socialist didn't work. Like it's not as much 214 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 3: of a pejorative as people think that don't want them 215 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 3: to win, Like it's not that damning anymore. Nobody knows 216 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 3: what socialism is. Nobody knows what Marxism is, nobody knows 217 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 3: who Karl Marx is, not the average vote, just like 218 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 3: nobody knows what fascism is. 219 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 2: People don't use that word correctly. 220 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 3: Everybody that calls Trump a fascist is an idiot because 221 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 3: he's the opposite of what fascism actually is, which is 222 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 3: an economic philosophy of centralized government. Trump is decentralizing the government, 223 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 3: literally eliminating federal agencies, the opposite of fascism. But nevertheless, 224 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 3: fascism sounds like a mean thing to call him, so 225 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 3: they call him that. A Nazi is a national socialist 226 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:34,719 Speaker 3: in nineteen thirty four, but it sounds mean, so they 227 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 3: call him that. So people don't know what these words mean, 228 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 3: and they use him, and they did nothing to cost 229 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 3: President Trump the election. And just like calling Zoran Mondami 230 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 3: in New York calling him a socialist or a Marxist does. 231 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 2: Nothing to cost him his victory. 232 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 3: So I think we need to have a better elevated 233 00:11:55,880 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 3: discussion of what we want, and that is we want 234 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 3: opportunity to make our own money, well a lot of it. 235 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 3: There is ways to create government conditions in which you 236 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 3: can make more money. 237 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 2: Forget about the millionaire and the billionaire. You just want 238 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 2: more money. 239 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 3: Stop getting even with the millionaire and the billionaire, because 240 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 3: all that is promised is they steal from the millionaire 241 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 3: and billionaire and give you government handouts. And government handouts suck. 242 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 3: You want to live, you a whole life waiting around 243 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 3: for a government handout. What if the millionaire goes broke? 244 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 3: Now you don't have a government handout. No, we need 245 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:39,479 Speaker 3: to even the discussion. They're talking about making the millionaires 246 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 3: and billionaires pay their fair share because they haven't and 247 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 3: it's not there, and somehow you get screwed and your 248 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 3: lot in life sucks because. 249 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: The millionaire in the billionaire is not paying his fair share. 250 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 3: All right, that's a ridiculous argument, but they're making it 251 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 3: and making it well. I propose we make an alternative 252 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:03,479 Speaker 3: argument that there is opportunity to make yourself way wealthier. 253 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 3: There's opportunity for you to have far more there's opportunity 254 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 3: for you to have far better days and far better nights, 255 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 3: and far better weekends and far better girlfriends. And Democrats 256 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 3: are standing in the way of you getting those things 257 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 3: with their government. Van Jones is on CNN, and I 258 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 3: remember this. He's one of the few Democrat talking heads 259 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 3: on CNN that actually is a thinker. And at the 260 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 3: end of the day, I appreciate thinkers in politics. Like 261 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 3: you know, I don't have to agree with you as 262 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 3: long as you're thoughtful. Bernie Sanders, I don't agree with 263 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 3: him at all, but he's thoughtful. There's no question he's thoughtful. 264 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 3: You listen to what he has to say and you 265 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 3: can follow it. I don't think he's right. I don't 266 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 3: think it will work the way he wants it to work. 267 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 3: I don't think the outcome will happen the way he wishes. 268 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 3: But it's logical and he's thoughtful about it, and he's 269 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 3: actually given it thought right. 270 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 2: There's a number of people in. 271 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 3: American politics, on the right and on the left that 272 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 3: are deep thinkers, and I appreciate them, and Van Jones 273 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 3: is one of them. 274 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 2: And he made this case. 275 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 3: He said, look, you guys in New York were out 276 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 3: there calling Zorn a communist, a socialist, the Marxist. It 277 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 3: meant nothing to anybody that is working hard in New York. 278 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 2: And not seeing the results of their hard work. 279 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 3: And that is a legitimate thing to say like, there 280 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 3: are young people and voters under thirty, which used to 281 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 3: be meaningless in American politics, became quite meaningful in that 282 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 3: election because they were the largest percentage of the vote 283 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 3: and the larger percentage of support of a self identified 284 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 3: Democrat socialist. Imagine that winning an election with the word 285 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 3: socialist in your last. 286 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 2: Name or in your political party. And Van Jones made 287 00:14:58,200 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 2: the case, and I thought it was thoughtful. 288 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 6: Young people are not what they're being characterized as lazy 289 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 6: kids who just want free stuff. That is not who 290 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 6: they are. These are some hard working folks. Many of 291 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 6: them have gone to college them now they have two degrees. 292 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 6: They're working one, two or three gig jobs and they 293 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 6: cannot get anywhere, and nobody's listening to their pain. And 294 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 6: so I think what you're seeing is when you say, well, 295 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 6: socialism doesn't work anywhere, these kids say, well, capitalism is 296 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 6: not working for me. 297 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 298 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 3: So people say socialism doesn't work, why elect the socialists? 299 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 3: And the reply is capitalism is not working for me. 300 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 3: So that isn't a statement. That's a question in American 301 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 3: culture begging an answer. So really, what they're saying is 302 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 3: why isn't capitalism working for me? Because clearly capitalism is 303 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 3: working because you have the millionaires and the billionaires that 304 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 3: you seem to hate. 305 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 2: So capitalism is working. But why isn't it working for you? 306 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 3: And I think that question deserves an answer from those 307 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 3: of us on the other side, right, those of us 308 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 3: that are not democrats socialists, we deserve we owe them 309 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 3: an answer. They deserve an answer, and the answer is 310 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 3: simply this. There is conditions that can be created by government. 311 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 2: Government can't create jobs. 312 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 3: Government can't create housing, Government cannot create transportation, Government cannot 313 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 3: create good health. I would argue, government can't create a 314 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 3: market based insurance system. 315 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 2: Government cannot create these things. 316 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 3: Government can, however, create the conditions in which jobs can 317 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 3: be created, in which housing can become affordable, in which 318 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 3: the marketplace can control insurance premium costs. 319 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 2: Government can create conditions, and we need. 320 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 3: To find the people that make the government create the 321 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 3: conditions so that you you can go out and make 322 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 3: more money, that you can go out and get ahead, 323 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 3: that you can go out and put your God given 324 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 3: gifts and your talent and your time and work as 325 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 3: hard or as little as you want. You have to 326 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 3: be honest with people, too, right if you want to 327 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 3: be rich, do it rich people do. If you want 328 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,479 Speaker 3: to be broke, do what broke people do. But it's 329 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 3: up to you. What government has to do is get 330 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 3: out of your way, and that has to be a 331 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:28,719 Speaker 3: message that's offered. Otherwise Van Jones is right. Voters are 332 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 3: going to say, well, you say all these things. Socialism 333 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 3: is bad. Capitalism isn't working for me either. That needs 334 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 3: to be addressed. Louke Penrose ifa John cobelt on kf 335 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 3: I AM six forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 336 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI AM sixty. 337 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, lou just a quick point of order talking about 338 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 7: people being thoughtful. In order to be thoughtful, at least 339 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 7: in this state, you got to find some people with 340 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 7: common sense. And quite frankly, I'm born and raised here. 341 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 8: I think kissed that everybody with any common sense already 342 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 8: hit the road got the hell out of this place, 343 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 8: which is very sad, very sad, but it is what 344 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 8: it is. 345 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 2: I appreciate the call, I respectfully disagree. 346 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 3: I don't think California is as liberal as they say, 347 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 3: and I reached that conclusion when I. 348 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 2: See statewide initiatives. 349 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 3: You know, when we elect lawmakers, we seem to elect 350 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 3: democrats constantly, Democrat control of the state Assembly, Democrat control 351 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 3: of the Senate, Democrat control of the governor's mansion. Even 352 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 3: when the governor sucks and we successfully get a recall 353 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 3: effort on the ballot, the governor beats the recall, So 354 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 3: I get it. Anybody looking on would say, Wow, what 355 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 3: a bunch of liberal freaks out there in California. But 356 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 3: then you have statewide initiatives, you have prop is positions, 357 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 3: right referendums on issues, and you look at the results statewide, 358 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 3: and Californians are quite conservative on single issues. Californians are 359 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 3: quite conservative when it comes to rent control. 360 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 2: Statewide. They voted it down right. 361 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 3: They wanted they proposed to bring back affirmative action. Californians 362 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 3: voted it down. 363 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 2: Right crime. They wanted to ease and go soft on criminals. 364 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 3: Californians push back, voted it down so on single issues, 365 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 3: core issues about our society, about fairness to landlords versus tenants. 366 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 2: A majority and some of these were sixty to forty. 367 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 3: Like Californians overwhelmingly use common sense when asked a single issue. 368 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 2: The problem is the. 369 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 3: Democrat lawmakers tend to obfuscate. They changed the names of things. 370 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 3: They really do a good job of word salad. And 371 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 3: most of us work right. We follow this because we're 372 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,479 Speaker 3: in the news business, and we talk about it on 373 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 3: talk radio because they're usually top stories and they're issues 374 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 3: that are combative. But at the end of the day, 375 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 3: most of us have jobs and lives and cars and 376 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 3: broken refrigerators, right, and if we have children, we have 377 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 3: that going on. 378 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 2: We can't spend. 379 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 3: All day analyzing and unraveling a Democrat proposal that ultimately 380 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 3: is unfair and will increase our taxes. 381 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 2: We'd have time for that. 382 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 3: So we do the best we can, and the best 383 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 3: we can right now hasn't been good enough. And that's 384 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 3: why the quality of life of California is going down. Look, 385 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 3: you know it's easy to leave. I'm not leaving. My 386 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 3: three sons were born here, my wife was born and 387 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 3: raised here. 388 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 2: I chose to live in southern California. I knew it 389 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 2: from my early. 390 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 3: Years that as soon as I get out of this 391 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 3: crazy house and graduate college, I'm packing my bags and 392 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 3: going to California. 393 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 2: And a lot of people were like that back in 394 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 2: the day. I moved here. 395 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 3: Super Bowl Sunday nineteen ninety, my roommate had an apartment. 396 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 3: His roommate was moving out. It was on Washington and Lincoln, 397 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 3: walking distance to Venice Beach nineteen ninety. Spent Super Bowl 398 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 3: Sunday nineteen ninety in Venice Beach watching. 399 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 2: The Super Bowl. 400 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 3: Beautiful girls couldn't believe it. Sunshine, and it was fantastic. 401 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 3: And I'm happy to have made that choice. I don't 402 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 3: just because we have made some bad choices with policy. 403 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 3: The state's the same. The apartment building on Washington and 404 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 3: Lincoln is still there. The girls are still beautiful. The 405 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 3: girls in California are so beautiful they write songs about it. 406 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 3: So nothing is wrong with California that cannot be remedied 407 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 3: with what's right about California. 408 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 2: So I don't think it's the people. I think we 409 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 2: have bad lawmakers. 410 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 3: I think they're acting like politicians, but I will not 411 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 3: let it go there. I think the opinion shapers, from 412 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 3: the alternative point of view, which in my case would 413 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 3: be a more pro business point of view, opinion shapers 414 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 3: have not done a good enough job of selling it. 415 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 3: Former House Speaker Nuke Ingridge used to say that half 416 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 3: of American politics is salesmanship. You have a good idea, great, 417 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 3: you've got to go out and sell it. You got 418 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 3: to get people to buy into it. You've got to 419 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 3: convince them so that they nod their head at the rally. Yeah, 420 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 3: he's right, right, So we haven't sold it. We haven't 421 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 3: sold markets, we haven't sold capitalism. We haven't sold opportunity, 422 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 3: we haven't sold lower taxes, we haven't sold more freedom. 423 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 3: And in that vacuum, at least in the case of 424 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 3: New York City with young voters, but I thought it 425 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 3: was very instrumental. Van Jones says, Look, you got a 426 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 3: lot of young people that just can't seem to get ahead. 427 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 3: And they're not stupid people, and they're not lazy people. 428 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 3: It just doesn't seem to be working for them. And 429 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 3: somebody comes along and says I can make it work, 430 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 3: and everyone says, oh, he's a crazy Marxist, is a 431 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 3: crazy socialist. And it didn't impact the vote because most 432 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 3: of the young people said, well, I mean, what's going 433 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 3: on now ain't working anyway. 434 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 6: So I think what you're seeing is when you say, well, 435 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 6: socialism doesn't work anywhere, these kids say, well, capitalism's not 436 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 6: working for me. 437 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 2: Somebody's got to do something to help me. 438 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 6: As long as the establishment doesn't have an answer, please 439 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 6: for these young people and then these working class people, 440 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 6: they're going to be going other places. 441 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 4: That's right. 442 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 2: And we are the establishment. 443 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 3: We're established, right, those of us that are in society, 444 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 3: that have jobs, that have places to live, that have families, 445 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 3: we are established. He's not talking about the established politicians 446 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 3: or the established you know, millionaires and biginnis. 447 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 2: You're talking about us society. We have not offered an answer. 448 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 2: We have not offered a solution. 449 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 3: And I think the same could be said in California 450 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 3: and Comma, I think if Zorn Mondami ran for governor 451 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 3: of California, he would have won on the exact same platform, 452 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 3: which means the next person to run for governor of California, 453 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 3: he's going to sound an awful like him, an awful 454 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 3: lot like him in the absence of pushback. And it 455 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 3: doesn't have to be mean spirited pushback. It can be 456 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 3: happy pushback. Those of you that are fiscal conservatives in 457 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 3: your own life, and I would argue that women are 458 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 3: fiscal conservatives. The core voting block of the California Democrat 459 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 3: Party is women under forty. 460 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 2: And what's amazing. 461 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 3: About that is the Democrat Party in California is progressive, 462 00:24:54,040 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 3: not fiscally conservative. Yet women instinctively are fiscally concservative. You 463 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 3: watch them with their Macy star points, you watch them 464 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 3: with coupons, you watch them take advantage of sales. 465 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 2: You know what that is. That is active fiscal conservativism. 466 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 2: You laugh, but it is right. 467 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 3: I mean they they're mindful when they shop to take 468 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 3: full advantage and make their money go far and not 469 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 3: be wasteful. Yet they vote for a political party that 470 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 3: is wasteful constantly, could care less about cost over runs. 471 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 3: So there's a disconnect there, and that that disconnect is 472 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 3: on us, the alternative party, the minority party. It's hard 473 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 3: to consider the Republican Party in California the minority party. 474 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 2: I mean, well, I think, what are we doing? How 475 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 2: many state senators? 476 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 3: I think we could fit all the state senators in 477 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 3: the California Legislature in my Toyota minivan. So certainly you 478 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 3: can fit all of the Republican members of the Congressional 479 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 3: delegation in my Toyota Toyota minivan. And after the next 480 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 3: election cycle, thanks to the prop fifty. I won't even 481 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 3: need a van. We'll get more of this when we 482 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 3: come back. Lou Penrose Info John Cobelt on KFI AM 483 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 3: six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 484 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM sixty. 485 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 3: Lou Penrose in for John Cobelt all this week, which 486 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 3: is tomorrow, We're off Thursday and Friday. I believe I 487 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 3: don't know a lot of a lot of guest hosts 488 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 3: Andy follows the program at four, so he's guessing for 489 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 3: Tim Conway Junior. 490 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,479 Speaker 2: That's fun and around the America Round we go. 491 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 7: Lou, can you give us a specific example of how 492 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 7: an asylum seeker would qualify for asylum? 493 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 3: Do they have to have a bounty out on their 494 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 3: head or a picture in their post office? 495 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 2: They can have a bounty on their head. 496 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 3: That does not they would probably qualify for an asylum hearing. Sorry, 497 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 3: so let me make this perfectly clear to everybody, because 498 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 3: I've done I've worked for fifteen years for Members of Congress, 499 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 3: which means I've done fifteen years of immigration casework. Asylum 500 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 3: cases are rare. Almost nobody gets in this country because 501 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 3: of asylum because there just isn't that kind of political 502 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 3: persecution going on around the world. And by the way, 503 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 3: sometimes it's okay, like sometimes these people broke laws and 504 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 3: they're being persecuted justly. So all these people that are 505 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 3: claiming asylum, the tens of thousands, tens of thousands per 506 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 3: year in the Biden administration that were all making believe 507 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 3: they were seeking asylum, it was a complete fool on you. 508 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 3: There's no evidence that they are eligible for asylum none. 509 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 3: And even if they were eligible for asylum, it doesn't 510 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 3: mean they get it. 511 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 2: We get to decide who comes in the country. Some 512 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 2: people broke the law in their own country. 513 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 3: Now it wasn't the law in our country, but it's 514 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 3: the law in their country, and they have to obey 515 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 3: the law in their country. So if they're being persecuted 516 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 3: because they broke the law in their country, then that's 517 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 3: not our business. And just because you ran into the 518 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 3: United States through Texas doesn't mean you get to stay 519 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 3: and rip off the state of Minnesota by creating fraudulent 520 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 3: childcare centers. 521 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 2: All right, Asylum law is real simple. 522 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 3: You have to demonstrate that you're being persecuted in your 523 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 3: own country, that means facing imprisonment or death on five 524 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 3: protected grounds, race, religion, nationality, membership, and an anti government group, 525 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 3: which is tricky, it's a hard concept. But what's called 526 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 3: a PSG in immigration law, but race, religion, nationality, PSG 527 00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 3: or political opinion. None of these Somali refugees in Minneapolis 528 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 3: that are faking that they're being daycare centers are being 529 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 3: persecuted or face imprisonment or death based on their race. 530 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 2: They're all the same color, they're all the same religion. 531 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 2: They're all from Somalia, so they're all the same nationality. 532 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 3: Last I checked, they were not pro democracy freedom fighters, 533 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 3: so they're not members of an anti government group. 534 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 2: And I don't know if they. 535 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 3: Vote or not in Somalia, but you're allowed to vote 536 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 3: or not in Somalia. The political party one is a 537 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 3: real tricky one because some countries don't have political parties, right. 538 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 3: You can't just start up another political party in Russia. 539 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 3: Does that mean every Russian can come to the United 540 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 3: States and claim asylum. No, we won't grant them asylum. 541 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 3: You know why, they've broken the law. 542 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 2: That's the other thing. 543 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 3: Even if if, even if you want to make believe 544 00:29:58,880 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 3: that all these eli. 545 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 2: Legitimately, we're claiming asylum. 546 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 3: The only way you can claim asylum is to do 547 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 3: so at the US embassy over there in your home country, 548 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 3: or the next closest US embassy if we. 549 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 2: Don't have diplomatic relations with the country. 550 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 3: So you can't claim asylum in Tehran because there's no 551 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 3: US embassy there. 552 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 2: You know, you gotta go Damascus. But then you claim asylum. 553 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 3: There and you wait there until the FBI background checks you. 554 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 2: And we're in no rush. 555 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 3: We don't need you. There are other countries you can 556 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 3: go to. Why do they all want to come to Minneapolis? 557 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 2: That's the only place. The only other place is at 558 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 2: a port of entry. 559 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 3: You go to the guy I pass poor control, the 560 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 3: US guy with the badge and the gun, and you say, 561 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:54,719 Speaker 3: I need asylum. There chasing me man and if they 562 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 3: catch me, I'm dead. So I need asylum. That happens 563 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 3: at a porter of entry. You cannot illegally come into 564 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 3: the United States. And then only after being caught by 565 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 3: border patrol, after having thrown rocks at the border patrol 566 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 3: agents in the middle of the night, coming through a 567 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 3: hole in the fence between the United States and Mexico. 568 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 3: Then they catch you, then you claim asylum. No good, 569 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 3: no bueno's that's disqualifying anyway. 570 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 2: You've already committed a crime. 571 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 3: It is a crime to run through a hole in 572 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 3: the fence and throw rocks and border patrol agents. So 573 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 3: whatever your asylum claim was, it's just been negated, and 574 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:39,239 Speaker 3: you can't claim asylum that way. And it's idiotic that 575 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 3: we're even having this national discussion that these people are 576 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 3: asylum seekers. 577 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: Uh. 578 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 3: And what really kills me is that Joe Biden used 579 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 3: to be a US senator. 580 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 2: Kamala Harris used to be a US senator. It was 581 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 2: Senator Joe Biden. 582 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 3: It was Senator Kamala Harris, which means that Senators Biden 583 00:31:55,920 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 3: and Harris had immigration case workers on their staff, just 584 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 3: like me, Loop Penrose. I know immigration case workers on 585 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 3: Padilla's staff. Every member of Congress and every senator have 586 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 3: case workers. You know what they handle casework? What's what's 587 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 3: casework to a federal official, immigration passport, veteran stuff, VA stuff, 588 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 3: irs stuff, problems your grandmothers having with their Social Security check. Right, 589 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 3: That's what staff do for members of Congress and members 590 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 3: of the Senate in the in the district offices, here 591 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 3: in California and in all fifty states, they do different things. 592 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 3: On the hill they basically explain proposals and bills to 593 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 3: the boss, but back home they work on problems that 594 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 3: the constituents have. So you have a problem with social security, 595 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 3: go talk to the congressman. The loop penrose on the 596 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 3: staff will know who to call and sort it out. 597 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 2: Disability check. 598 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 3: Your disability got increase from sixty percent to eighty percent, 599 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 3: but the check didn't reflect it. You call your congressman 600 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 3: and the loop penro on the staff will call the 601 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 3: right person at the VA and get it all figured out. 602 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 2: Same goes with immigration. So my point is Harris and Biden. 603 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 3: Knew very well that these people didn't qualify for asylum, 604 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 3: yet Biden gave them all something called temporary protective status. 605 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:18,959 Speaker 3: Why the hell you would do that, I don't know. 606 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 3: And of all countries like third world nations that are 607 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 3: known for piracy, and guess what, we allowed a bunch 608 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 3: of pirates to Minneapolis and Columbus, Ohio and we got piracy. 609 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 2: Imagine that. So you asked the question like how do 610 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 2: you get asilum? Well, let's see. You remember Mikhyle Brushnikov. 611 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 3: He was a Soviet in the Olympics, and he defected 612 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 3: in Canada. 613 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 2: Like that defection. Once you defect from the Soviet. 614 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 3: Union in the eighties, you can't go back because you 615 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 3: will be facing persecution, imprisonment, or death. 616 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 1: So he. 617 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 2: Was eligible. 618 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:09,439 Speaker 3: Notice that mccalm Vershnikov did not swim across the Rio Grande. 619 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 3: He didn't cut a hole in the fence between the 620 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 3: United States and Mexico and run in in the middle 621 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 3: of the night while throwing rocks at border patrol agents. 622 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 2: Do you see that? Share that works so easy? It's 623 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 2: so easy to so many of us. 624 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,800 Speaker 5: Hey love the show. 625 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 2: Hey, regarding Tim Walls, you watch before the midterms. He's 626 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 2: going to get some prestigious award for his fiscal management 627 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 2: of the state of Minnesota. You watch. 628 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think that's true. I think this story 629 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 3: is not ending anytime soon. We saw it grow from 630 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 3: one reporter when twenty three year old kid with a 631 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 3: cell phone and a microphone knocking on doors that were. 632 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 2: Listed on the State of Minnesota website. 633 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 3: Literally all the information was on the homepage of the website, 634 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 3: and he was getting doors slammed in his face. He 635 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 3: was getting screamed at by Somali maniacs. And he proved 636 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 3: the point that there are no kids here and these 637 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 3: people are receiving millions of dollars, and all of a sudden, 638 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 3: that blew the littlef Then he went to home healthcare centers. 639 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 2: All over Minneapolis and guess what they called security. 640 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 3: They don't want to talk to him, And there was 641 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 3: like nineteen home like these are fake senior care establishments. 642 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 3: No nurses, no oxygen tanks, no nothing, no applications, no records, 643 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 3: just some Somali ladies and some big guy telling you 644 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 3: to get lost. 645 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 2: And that's spread. 646 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 3: Now you have another Nick Shirley like guy, a young 647 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 3: kid with a cell phone and a microphone. 648 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 2: He said, huh. 649 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 3: Let's see, Minneapolis is the largest home of Somali refugees 650 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 3: in the United States. 651 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,240 Speaker 2: Columbus, Ohio is the second largest. I wonder, just wonder 652 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 2: if the same thing is going on here? And what 653 00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 2: do you know? 654 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 3: He found all all kinds of preschool learning centers with 655 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 3: misspellings in the signs and the same old ball wax, 656 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 3: just a bunch of Somali people hanging out back there, 657 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 3: acting like they don't know anything, refusing to answer the door, 658 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 3: and millions of dollars being siphoned from the taxpayers of Ohio. 659 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 3: And now the FBI is there and President Trump is 660 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 3: rolling in with the ice bands. So I don't think 661 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 3: this story is going away anytime soon. I don't know 662 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 3: how Governor Waltz spins his way out of it. He 663 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 3: can say he didn't know, which is incompetent, in which 664 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 3: case he's part of the problem, not part of the solution, 665 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 3: and should be gone, or he can say he did know, 666 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 3: in which case he's part of the problem, not part 667 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 3: of the solution, and he should be gone. Either way, 668 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 3: his political career is toast. There's no question about it. 669 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 3: Louke Penrose on KFI AM six forty Live everywhere on 670 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 3: the IHEARTRADIOI. 671 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 1: Hey, you've been listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast. 672 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: You can always hear the show live onfi AM six 673 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 1: forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday, 674 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,760 Speaker 1: and of course, anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app