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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan ANSAs, and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: Room Fill with some heroes. Mark Cesler in my left,

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Speaker 1: Greg Rose with Thalt in my right. What's up? Boys?

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Speaker 1: I think we are being undermanned by the league. I

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Speaker 1: think the league, if they had their druthers, this show

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Speaker 1: would potentially not even exist. You could argue the show

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Speaker 1: already does it's fair arguments. You made what? Oh, we

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Speaker 1: have lots of listeners that that believe it. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: got you. Well, you know it's good to have a

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Speaker 1: little chip on your shoulder. It's something to dry that. Well,

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Speaker 1: they're giving us ample room for that. Welcome to the

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Speaker 1: Friday editional around the very bitter group of men in

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Speaker 1: this room apparently. Uh No, we love doing the show.

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Speaker 1: It's great get the opportunity, uh to get together, chop

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Speaker 1: it up, little football chop with the always three times

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Speaker 1: a week talking about the NFL. I mean, it cannot

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Speaker 1: be more lucky than we are. Let's gram a little

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Speaker 1: concerned because of you know, leading up to this show,

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Speaker 1: during our meeting and all day in the office downstairs. Greg,

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Speaker 1: I think it's because West isn't in the office. Greg

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Speaker 1: has no one to really band with. Greg and Greg

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Speaker 1: and Dan back and forth. Dn't red socks. We walked

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Speaker 1: noticed it and thought it was a big deal. Gregor

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Speaker 1: I really you know what you would think. I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: a good stinky Davis here, good job, Mark Well. I

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Speaker 1: like not being the center of it. Something Usually Dan's

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Speaker 1: roll coming from a man wearing a woman's shirt. Right now,

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Speaker 1: I am not wearing a woman's shirt. You are. It

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Speaker 1: as a medium and it's not say that as four

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Speaker 1: I'm not, I mean, I don't. But here downstairs, as

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Speaker 1: the female version of that shirt, it is a unisex alright. Well,

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Speaker 1: I disagree entirely. It is a man shirt for a man.

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Speaker 1: All right. Anyway, Um, today's show is a good one.

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Speaker 1: Got a lot to get to today the Friday Show,

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Speaker 1: and including of course big news with the Miami Dolphins

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Speaker 1: of ripping off that. We'll also now take a look

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Speaker 1: for teams that are are in contention this season. Put

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Speaker 1: we'll call it the you know, backup QB Power Rankings. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well nailed it also. The Hall of Fame induction ceremony

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Speaker 1: to the Great Sully, the Great. Yeah, you did miss

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Speaker 1: He's a great reporter, a global human. Mark is um

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Speaker 1: seeing the size. A lot of the quarterbacks in Cleveland

425
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Speaker 1: have been sort of whether it's Kessler or it's Colt McCoy,

426
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Speaker 1: sort of popgun arms, smaller dudes that don't look like

427
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Speaker 1: you're Ben Roethlisberger's and the rest of the division. Kaiser

428
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 1: looks the part, and I think, honestly, for some of

429
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Speaker 1: these people to cover the team for a decade plus,

430
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 1: they so want a quarterback to be the guy, to

431
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 1: almost wish cast him into the role. And so I

432
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Speaker 1: like that. I do also think though that that you know,

433
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Speaker 1: he's obviously practiced. Well, it's so mature. There's a scrimmage.

434
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Speaker 1: Isn't play in the preseason at all at all? There's

435
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 1: a scrimmage today, and you know it's happening. It looks

436
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 1: like in a rain storm with the way that showed

437
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 1: the scene a few minutes ago. If it's it's gonna

438
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 1: kick off in a couple of hours, I want to

439
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 1: see that. I want to see him in the preseason.

440
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 1: I I am. I do think it's an interesting person

441
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Speaker 1: to have in the mix. If it were just Kessler

442
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 1: and Osweiler, very little reason for excitement. Who knows, maybe

443
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 1: maybe this is looking too far ahead, but maybe I mean,

444
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 1: if he could have a solid season. It's like maybe

445
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 1: they don't. They're not even looking for a quarterback next year.

446
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 1: And it's not that crazy. I mean, the thing is like, Okay,

447
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,439
Speaker 1: Trabisky goes to Kaiser goes forty eight. None of that

448
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 1: means anything right now. You know, Derek Carr was taken

449
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:38,880
Speaker 1: in the second round, had a good rookie year. Colin

450
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,919
Speaker 1: Kaepernick was taken in the second round, was good the

451
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Speaker 1: second he hit the field. And he Dalton was taken

452
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Speaker 1: in the second round, was a pretty good rookie. So

453
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,679
Speaker 1: who knows Kaiser is the man? Sounds good. Take the

454
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Speaker 1: Browns out of the quarterback mix in the first round

455
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 1: next year. This Jet fans signs off in that, but

456
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 1: you would sign off to of it meant that Kaiser

457
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 1: looked good this year. I don't care when it happens.

458
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: I needed to happen in DJ still thinks brock Asweiler

459
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Speaker 1: is gonna be Week one starter. I don't know why

460
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 1: he thinks that, but that's why he thinks. I do

461
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 1: have some breaking news. By the way. Sixteen hours ago,

462
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:18,160
Speaker 1: August third, sev PM, Mark Sessler's dispatch on Twitter. Okay, okay,

463
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 1: you've reeled me again and again Brown's I'm officially fired

464
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 1: up to see Kaiser in action, noted Mark. I saw

465
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Speaker 1: your response to that where you you know you time

466
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Speaker 1: stamped it and said it will be on your radar.

467
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Speaker 1: I want to be a bad way. I wonder Natie

468
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Speaker 1: likes for that. I want to be excited. I would

469
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Speaker 1: I would like to go into the football season with

470
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Speaker 1: some sense of optimism about the team that I followed

471
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Speaker 1: for thirty years. I'm not sure this is the way in,

472
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,120
Speaker 1: but it's the only door I see at the moment.

473
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Speaker 1: Reason to see you being a little more honest with yourself,

474
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Speaker 1: because because let's be real, you're gonna be You're excited

475
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 1: either way. Now you're just allowing the public to know

476
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: it instead of it eating you from within the in

477
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: eyed out like the monsters from within. You are now

478
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: openly saying this team matters to me. I care about them,

479
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,880
Speaker 1: I need them to win. And this is a much

480
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 1: healthier aspect and it's and it's worked out so well

481
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Speaker 1: in the past that I don't see anything but good

482
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 1: times ahead. I feel like last year when you were

483
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: saying that you weren't invested, it was almost like an

484
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 1: ulcer that was growing with every loss. Inside you, this optimism,

485
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 1: this openness. I think it will be better for your

486
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 1: internal I hope your guts. I mean, you know it's time.

487
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 1: Enough is enough? Um? So anyway, Yes, everyone's excited to

488
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 1: see Deshaun Kaiser preseason right around the corner. So we'll

489
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Speaker 1: see where the Browns uh fit him in on their

490
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Speaker 1: pecking order. Uh. Moving on, speaking at quarterbacks that are

491
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Speaker 1: top there um depth chart, Blake Bortles has had his

492
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Speaker 1: trouble we talked about. He had the five interceptions in

493
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Speaker 1: a practice earlier this week. Uh, you know, he's almost

494
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Speaker 1: become it's almost kind of become shorthand um in a

495
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 1: pejorative sense for being a bad quarterback. The guys are

496
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: real Bortles. He Bortles day today out there and things

497
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Speaker 1: like this. But play into that. I don't know, it's

498
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,360
Speaker 1: just it's just something Cam Jordan might say. Let's see

499
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: Cam Jordan's said, you know, a proposed nothing And nobody

500
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: was talking about the Jaguars. It was a question about

501
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Speaker 1: Drew Brees and how he helps the Saints on defense.

502
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 1: And here's what Cam had to say. You know, um,

503
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 1: you're gonna you're not gonna face a more of a

504
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 1: top tier quarterback than Drew Um and that rapidly helps

505
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Speaker 1: some of the learning curve we're talking about. You know,

506
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,199
Speaker 1: you know Drew was able to look somebody off or

507
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: see something down the down the field and able to

508
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 1: adjust those throws. Um, that's only gonna help their young corners.

509
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Speaker 1: When talk about the linebacker of corps, Uh, you talk

510
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: about man t Tail, You talking about a j clein

511
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Speaker 1: Craig Robertson. Um, you're talking about Steph who's entering his

512
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Speaker 1: third year. Uh, we're just talking about going against her offense.

513
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 1: It can only help. I mean, it's not like we're

514
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Speaker 1: going against Blake Borrows here. You know, it's not It's

515
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Speaker 1: not like drews giving picks away. We're talking about a

516
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Speaker 1: guy who's a perennial elite. All Right, a couple of

517
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 1: things here. Let's calm down a little bit about Drew

518
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Speaker 1: Brees helping the Saints defense so much, the same unit

519
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 1: that finished first and thirty one in a most, he's

520
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 1: just begun to help them. At most, that's just happening.

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Speaker 1: Imagine he may be beating them down so badly they

522
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: have no con Maybe, I mean, what would happen if

523
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 1: that's what the defense looks like with their secret weapon

524
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: Drew Brees helping them in practice. What would be like

525
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: if Blake Bortles was there anyway? So that was on

526
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: my radar a little bit. But Mark, the other thing is,

527
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Speaker 1: you know, Lee Blake out of it. He's got enough

528
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Speaker 1: going on, He's got enough battles. I'll say this, by

529
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 1: doing what we do here, I would say a thousand

530
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: times at least a name or something slipped out of

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Speaker 1: my mouth where I thought, my god, I wish I

532
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: hadn't just name dropped that person or done that. But

533
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: I don't understand where like a player. Usually don't hear

534
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: players ripping on the quarterback. Let's rip some more this,

535
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 1: let's let's have some ripping. He seems unnecessary. In the

536
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: sixties and seventies, you read those these old football books.

537
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: They used to rip each other all the time and

538
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: talk about honest like who's good, Who's who's bad. This

539
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: is what we want out of our players. You know,

540
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: we criticize him for not talking up enough. It is.

541
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 1: It is kind of a professional wrestling hook to it all.

542
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: I get that, which made me makes sense because I

543
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,360
Speaker 1: remember interviewing Cam Jordan was a rookie in this building.

544
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: His father his name was Blank Jordan's. Does anybody remember

545
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: Cam Jordan's father, Steve No, maybe, sorry, this is where

546
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: you gotta be hammering that laptop, you know, helping out

547
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: the old host Minnesota Vikings tight end. I remember that.

548
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: I believe it was Forest Lamp. Anyway it was, it

549
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 1: was Blank Jordan's. Uh. If you are a wrestling fan

550
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: from the early nineties, you'll remember an amazing classic vignette

551
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: of Mr Steve Jordan good job um uh. Mr Perfect,

552
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: the great nineties wrestler of w WF, did a vignette

553
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: where he was Mr Perfect. So I was doing sports exploits,

554
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: like he shot a hole in one, he hit a

555
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: grand Slam, and then to cap it off, he was

556
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: with Steve Jordan's and he throw Mr Perfect through an

557
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: eight yard bomb and then caught it himself for for

558
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: a touchdown. Rest in peace, Kurt Henning. But I asked

559
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: Cam Jordan about that. Your dad was in a famous

560
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 1: w WF skit and He's like, yeah, I was there

561
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: that day, and I was like, oh, so maybe he's

562
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: a wrestling fan and he's rampant. Maybe he's leading the

563
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: revolution here. If he's pulling from that world. I I

564
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: can get behind it all right. Moving on the Patriots

565
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: quick trip to the throne of these quick trip. They

566
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Speaker 1: were getting killed in the blogs yesterday because somebody tweeted out, um,

567
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: their season ticket package. Uh, first lost they've had in

568
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: a while. Yeah, it's true. It's fair. Um their season

569
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Speaker 1: ticket package, which included if you purchase season tickets, tickets

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Speaker 1: to the a f C Championship game and the divisional playoffs. Uh.

571
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: And it was seen seen by some Greg is very

572
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: arrogant that you would. Now. I know you've been very successful,

573
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: but now you are just assuming you're playing hosting home

574
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Speaker 1: games in the dial playoffs. In AFC title, yeah yeah,

575
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: it said game Playoff game two. So they have a

576
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: buy too. Yeah. So there they are. Not only yeah,

577
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: they are also there is no home date for the

578
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: wild card round. Got on my radar and I know

579
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Speaker 1: seven straight buys. Greg, I get it. Congratulations, that's significant. Yeah,

580
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm just fat fingers Sully, just

581
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: like face planted on the drop cut, I'll cut that out.

582
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Speaker 1: I was no, no, please leave it, No, no, I

583
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: was putting radar. You're not cutting anything out anyway. It

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Speaker 1: turns out, though Patriots or evil, I think it's where

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00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: you were going. Yeah, well, the not including the wild

586
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: card game, that that's a little to quote a as

587
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: Sesslers and that's beyond the pale. But the truth of

588
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: the matter is that it is more a housekeeping issue.

589
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: Is it turned out after doing some digging that teams

590
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: uh fans have the option like a pay as they

591
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: advanced option where they get locked into the ticket and

592
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: media is as a team advances Patriots just to save

593
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: some postage mail. The tickets that can become like kind

594
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: of relics or not relics can become basically alternate histories

595
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: in a way if they don't actually host those games.

596
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 1: So I can't really kill them for that. But the

597
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: no wild card game, you know, come on a little aggressive.

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00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's New England. It's the New

599
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: England Patriots scenario. Now, Greg, aren't other teams doing stuff

600
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: like this? I don't know the playoff tickets. It seems

601
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: like one of those things. They're just the raiders. There

602
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: we go. I think it was fair. I was just

603
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: pointing out. The funnier thing to me is that there

604
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: was no wild card. Are the Jets shipping playoff tickets

605
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: to their fans. I don't even know the Jets of

606
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: shipping tickets. I think they're just saying, let's move forward.

607
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: I mean, it's been a while. Two thousand nine was

608
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: the last season where they did have a wild card

609
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: game where they were part of That's what do you want, Greg,

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Speaker 1: You want us to say, Yeah, it's been a great run. Yes,

611
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: it's been great. Greg. You guys have done something really

612
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: special President even unprecedented. Uh. Finally in the news the season,

613
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: we had our first action of the NFL season. The

614
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame Game took place in Canton. Uh a

615
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: eighteen Cowboys victory over the Arizona Cardinals. Big come from

616
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Speaker 1: behind effort I believe by the Cowboys. I didn't see it,

617
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: missed it, I can't can't vouch for it, but a

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00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,719
Speaker 1: real come from behind effort. Mark, I know you were

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00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: plugged in on the game. I watched I'd say seven

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Speaker 1: percent of it. Do you want to tell us some

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Speaker 1: of your takeaways? One takeaway I have is that people

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Speaker 1: probably opened I know that I opened the game ripping

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Speaker 1: on the fact that the first NFL pass thrown all

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00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: season was by blamee Gabbert that that felt very ominous

625
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: to me concerning for all of us played very well,

626
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: and it's just it's one worthless preseason game. But I mean,

627
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Speaker 1: you have to wonder what arians has been doing with

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Speaker 1: him all offseason. I thought your boy can d J indeed,

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Speaker 1: chicken D chicken d d J, d J d J

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Speaker 1: salivation and com me. In August, Kia did not get

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Speaker 1: the veteran pass, as con Roor wrote, because you know,

632
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Speaker 1: normally you see all these guys are on the sidelines,

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Speaker 1: helmets off. I don't even know why they put guys

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Speaker 1: like Carson Palmer and Larry Fitzgerald. Why do you make

635
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: them wear football pads in this game? They're never going

636
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: to see the field under any condition, they will not play.

637
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: Why are you making them dress up in this scarp? Uh?

638
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: They're all the things happened. But what got on my

639
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: radar today was that that the two of you during

640
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: our pre production meeting, I thought, you know, let's have

641
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: a robust conversation about the first football game of the year.

642
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: No one bothered to watch the thing except me. By

643
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: the final Okay, I have a little I want to

644
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: prepare statements, so I don't get I wanted to tell

645
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: you how I feel about this. You need the missive music,

646
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: sure prepared statement about the Hall of Fame game tank

647
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 1: job done by my colleagues. I was prepared to have

648
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: an in depth conversation today about the Hall of Fame game.

649
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 1: After closely rotching roughly of the preseason opener in Canton, Ohio,

650
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: I was stunned to discover during our pre production meeting

651
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 1: that nobody else in this room took pains to watch

652
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 1: even a minute of the game Get your Act Together,

653
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: bro get Track. I find it appalling that I am

654
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: the only one who tapped into my personal well spring

655
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: of professionalism at the workplace to closely monitor. Again, it

656
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: was roundly ignored by our colleagues. One statement on that

657
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,760
Speaker 1: get your Act Together, Brock. One statement for Greg, get

658
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 1: your Act together, Brot. One statement for Dan, get your

659
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: Act Together, broe Track. One statement for the level of

660
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: professionalism in the American workplace shown by hobby Horses, skipping

661
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: a deeply meaningful start to the season. Get your Act together, bro,

662
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: get Track, Get your act together, bro get Trap, Get

663
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: your act together, Bro get Track, Get your act together,

664
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: bro Mark, furiously pointing that Sully with pit stains below

665
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: and my woman's sho cut higher. It is thank you

666
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: A couple of thoughts here. I don't know how you

667
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: would have reacted in previous preseasons, where where I'm carrying

668
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 1: you up and down the show with all the Friday

669
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: night Saturday night games I'm watching, I'm talking. You want

670
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: to talk about radar? You are on Greg's radar. I'll

671
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: give you a break not calling you out for that

672
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: number two. Uh yeah, yesterday it was a big day,

673
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: the final day of my daughter Elis is Pollywogs swimming class. Unfortunately,

674
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 1: for the third street times she was held back. She's

675
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: gonna be re entering Pollywog again, but it was still

676
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: big day. Had to go to the last class and

677
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: we celebrated with the milkshake afterwards. Some things are listen,

678
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: get some priorities, not you know, not a natural swimmer.

679
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 1: I think it's nice to spend time with your children.

680
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: I sat home and watched the game with Luke and

681
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: Colton and it was actually a nice experience. It's so

682
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: one of the first games, so they started to have

683
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: questions about what they were scene was quite quite a

684
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: good time. Dan. I suggest you try the same, and

685
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: I will just say I will just say that for

686
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: all your seven study of the game, the only thing

687
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: that you took away was that Blaine Gabbert started can

688
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: DJ played snaps and Larry Fitzgerald was not wearing his

689
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: unif or was wearing his uniform fully, which kind of

690
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 1: got on your radarsad. I came away with a larger

691
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: picture view of why did they put these players in

692
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: these uniforms when they will not play? You know, I

693
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: read I read Connor or is what we learned to like,

694
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: You're not fooling anyone. Why don't you check my Twitter timeline, buddy,

695
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: I was tweeting comments about the game. Greg. This is

696
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 1: Greg's nightmare to have not watched the game and be

697
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: called out for it. So he's coming back strong and

698
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: I'll listen every word of it. I love this. This

699
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 1: is good. Um all right, that's it. That's it, and

700
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: I should once again eighteen win for the Cowboys, a

701
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 1: real squeaker for America's team. Um, let's you know what,

702
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: g get my act together, let's move on, and let's

703
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: talk about all right. So we were saying, uh, oh boy,

704
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: the Dolphins were in trouble. Um, but there are teams

705
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: that would be in a lot more trouble than the Dolphins,

706
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: uh if they lost their starting quarterback. And let's face it,

707
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: this is a brutal game. It is a it is

708
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 1: a physical game. Uh, it is a game where quarterbacks

709
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: get hurt all the time. I hate to say it.

710
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: If you're you know, a hardcore football fan, there's a

711
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 1: decent chance that what your star quarterback can go down

712
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: to miss team time this year. So we thought, maybe

713
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 1: let's take a look in terms of teams that you

714
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,479
Speaker 1: know are either knocking on the door, were playoff teams

715
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 1: last year, teams that people are buzzing about this year.

716
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: Um uh, let's look at their quarterback situations behind the

717
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: starter and kind of power rank where they are. And

718
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: I guess a good place to start is at the top.

719
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: And we'll I'll throw out a bunch of names here

720
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: and then we can all kind of figure it out

721
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: and put put it into some tears that um we

722
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 1: have set up here. But the first right now, I

723
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: think and I think this person is alone Jimmy Garoppolo

724
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 1: with his limited experience uh in the NFL, but just

725
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: the buzz around him, how he has played when he's

726
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: gotten into the game. Uh, the fact that people are

727
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: there's even some reports earlier this summer that there's not

728
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: a big drop off when he replaces Tom Brady. There

729
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: is a general feeling that it's like a Joe Montana

730
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: Steve Young situation and going on right here. Now, it's

731
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,760
Speaker 1: way premature to say that, but that's how people feel.

732
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: And I think that he has done enough on the

733
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: field to tell us greg that he's kind of in

734
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: his own class right now in terms of, uh, the

735
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: number one backup quarterback you could live with if your

736
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 1: guy went down. He stands out as the one backup

737
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: that feels like he has potential to be a eight

738
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: starter that the Patriots might consider using the franchise tag

739
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: on him. Usually there's a few more guys like this

740
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: actually with like okay, big time potential waiting in the wings,

741
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: But right now, any of those guys are actually competing

742
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: to start, Like Deshaun Watson, he has a chance to

743
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: actually start, Deshaun Kaiser. There's really not any of those

744
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,240
Speaker 1: trendy backup cool quarterbacks out there. I mean, he's locked

745
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: into the spot. But I believe what Bill Belichick has

746
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 1: said about him, and I believe in their own actions

747
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 1: that they refused. They probably were offered an absolute mountain

748
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: by Cleveland and maybe another team for his services, and

749
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: they didn't want to choose. They didn't want to make

750
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: that trade, and they may live to regret it. I mean,

751
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: everyone is now just assuming this guy is going to be, uh,

752
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: you know, a Pro Bowl, all pro type guy. We

753
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: don't know, but it's safe say, as far as this

754
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 1: exercise goes, you feel okay, the Paton Brady has his way.

755
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 1: This guy will never play, will never hit the field.

756
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: This tricky situation in New England, we've talked about that.

757
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: How are they going to make this work? Garoppolo keeps on.

758
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: This is his fourth year in the league. Now, right

759
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:01,720
Speaker 1: at some point they're gonna have to make a decision.

760
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: But we'll see where that goes. Anyway. So now let's

761
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 1: let's talk about Matt more So. Matt Moore is a

762
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: guy not in Garoppolo's tier. Garoppo's younger, He's got the

763
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: upside things more I believe his thirty three, thirty four,

764
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: he's in that range at this point. But Gregor Mark,

765
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: every time he's gotten in the lineup, um, he has

766
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: done the job and taking care of business. He got

767
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: the Dolphins to the playoffs in Tannehill went down last year.

768
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 1: So our second tier hold the ft. These are guys

769
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: that can if your quarterback miss is a month, you

770
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: can expect to go around five hundred and he'll play

771
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: a steady man or maybe win a game for you

772
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: if he gets hot. Hold the fourth guy. He might

773
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 1: be at the top of that list, but far below Garoppolo,

774
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: but also really a good guy to have. So the

775
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: Dolphins could be in a worse situation right now. It's

776
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: only last season that we have any evidence of what

777
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,919
Speaker 1: Matt Moore has been at this time because he Ryan

778
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,879
Speaker 1: Tannhill started sixteen games for four straight seasons before last year.

779
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: But in also Matt Matt Moore annoyed me at a

780
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: couple of times back in previous free agency sessions where

781
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 1: he had a chance to go potentially start for a

782
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: lower level team like a New York Jets or Cleveland

783
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: or something, and he didn't want to. He wanted to

784
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: stay in Miami and keep the backup job. And no,

785
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: of course I think that life in overall quality of

786
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 1: life probably came into that decision. But last year, as

787
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: Henry said before, when he came in. He essentially did

788
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: pull them into the playoffs by not being a liability.

789
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 1: It was better than people think. I think he Gaze

790
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: Ghill trust Gaze trusts him. They need to get another

791
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 1: body in there potentially. But like if he had played

792
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: in his month playing, how Ryan Tannehill played in his

793
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: first month playing for Adam Gates. But no one, no

794
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: one brings up that Ryan Tannell Hill was abysmal, probably

795
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: the worst month of his career the first month of

796
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: last season. More came in there and and he made

797
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,479
Speaker 1: good decisions. He made some big plays, embarrassed your Jets.

798
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: Not that that was too unique, but he wasn't even

799
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: the playoff game was not his fault. Uh, there was

800
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: twenty one nothing before he barely had the ball, he

801
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: had no protection or in the game. Watch that game

802
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:02,959
Speaker 1: got killed and that he was fine. He was fine,

803
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: He was showed some toughness. You can't embarrass the team

804
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,760
Speaker 1: with no pride, so you just beat up on the Jets.

805
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: You know, it was that Monday night. It was you

806
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 1: remember that it was a weapon and they all kind

807
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: of blended together after a while. Um, I'm gonna go

808
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: down a list now, you tell me if they deserve

809
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: to be in the hold. The fort tier, I want

810
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 1: to I want you to know. The blow tier is

811
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: the honey, take your kids to the mother, to your

812
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: mother's tier, which is things are getting bad. It's it's abysmal,

813
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 1: your seasons in trouble. Below that tier, Honey, you take

814
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: your kids to your mother's so you're your mother. You're

815
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: separated with you from Get to higher ground, get to

816
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 1: safe ground. I hope to see you again. I may

817
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: never see you again. It's not a relationship issue, and

818
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: it's say potential, like an apocalyp Okay, mom, take the

819
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: kids for the weekend. That's like, honey, get the kids,

820
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: packed them up, get to your mother's place, which is

821
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,919
Speaker 1: probably upstate or something, and just stay there and I'll

822
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: meet up with you. But you don't in your head,

823
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,240
Speaker 1: you don't know if you'll ever make you're sacrificing yourself.

824
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: You're in the low lin land, right. You want get

825
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: your mother's and don't honey, honey, don't, don't say anything.

826
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: Just just do it. It's quite a narrative you built

827
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: for this group of quarterbacks. That's a bad place. There

828
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: is a worse place than that. The tear is called

829
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: you banged. No, not even a chance to evacuate. It's

830
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: basically the season is ova. So that's those are the

831
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: tears you have. Um should be a starter or the

832
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: throne of ease. That's called this tier, the throne of

833
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 1: let's be honest and garoppos by himself. Isn't it funny

834
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: how the Patriots have the number one backup quarterbacks. It is.

835
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: It's a testament obviously to what they've been able to

836
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 1: build that organization. But it's also a little it's hideos,

837
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: So you got admit it's a little annoying. I would

838
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: be completely annoyed with the Patriots if I was not

839
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 1: a fan of them anyway. So throwne of these hold

840
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: the Ford guys, honey, take the kids to your mother's

841
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 1: and you banged. So I'm gonna go down the list here.

842
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: Now A J mccaren is he hold the Ford guy

843
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: for the Bengals. He's one of the best Hold the

844
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 1: Fort guys. He he is one of I said, there

845
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: weren't many young quarterbacks with potential. He had the very

846
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: least as a potential to pick kind of a mid

847
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 1: tier starter like a like a Kirk Cousins or Nany

848
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: Dalton type, another guy that you know there was trade

849
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: interest around him. So that tells How about oh, I

850
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: don't know, Derek Anderson of the Panthers hold the fort?

851
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,240
Speaker 1: How doney you take it? Take the kids to your mothers.

852
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: I think he's proven that he's he can hold the fort.

853
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: I don't know how many more years he can do that,

854
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: But every time Cam Newton's had to step out of

855
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 1: the line up, Derek Anderson has come in and done fine.

856
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: So so in this scenario, Derrick Anderson is so strong

857
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: he can protect your kids. I'm not really sure how

858
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: it were. The kids are out, the kids are gone.

859
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: They are safe, but that doesn't mean all as well.

860
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: They're safe for now. But you're saying they're above that

861
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: to hold the forts. Like I like Derek Anderson. I

862
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: felt bad for him that one game where he threw

863
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: one Do you guys remember he threw one pass in

864
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,280
Speaker 1: place of Cam Newton, who had been benched for wearing

865
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: a tie or not wearing a tie, and Mike Tilbert

866
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: dropped the pass. He threw one pass. It was an

867
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 1: interception against the Seahawks. That was it over one interception.

868
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,720
Speaker 1: It's an embarrassing game. He's not in your bang territory.

869
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: That's for now. I like him. Also, it actually makes sense,

870
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 1: although that wasn't the intention. Hold the fort is Hey,

871
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: I can protect this house. Kids coming out of the backyard. Obviously,

872
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 1: let's lock the doors, batting down the hatchets. But you know,

873
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,919
Speaker 1: I got this under control. That's the difference. How about

874
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: nick Foles in Philly? Nick Foles in an offense that

875
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: he's familiar with. I think that was a good signing.

876
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: I feel I feel like he's a Matt Moore type

877
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: where he'll have a solid five six games for you.

878
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: Maybe don't want him start in the whole season. Very

879
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: up and down on nick Foles, but he again the

880
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: difference between holds good and you bang. I mean he's

881
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: not in he's Are the kids staying at home or

882
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: are you going upstate with the kids. I will allow

883
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: the kids to stay at home with pick Foles's gonna

884
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: hold the fort? Yeah? Oh again, feel a little shaky

885
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: about but a miss missing a month of time your QB. One,

886
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: you're gonna go too, and two maybe the schedule breaks right,

887
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: you go three and one you're feeling okay. If it

888
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 1: really breaks right, you can tie the all time NFL

889
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: record for touchdowns in a game, like Nick foleson saying,

890
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 1: is that a snowstorm? No? Against the Raiders just dialed up?

891
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. It feels like it was two lifetimes.

892
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: Gil said that to touch at interception ratio, which we'll

893
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: never see again. Anyway, How about this, Greg, This is

894
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,760
Speaker 1: a tough one for you. I know your boy Geno Smith,

895
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: New York Giants backup quarterback. Uh is he a hold

896
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,439
Speaker 1: the Ford guy? I think he could put You could

897
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 1: really sign on for any of them? I feel like

898
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: hold the fort only taking kids to your mother? You banged?

899
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 1: I would accept arguments for all three. Where do you

900
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 1: come down? Mark? You banged? Oh? I listen. I don't

901
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: need to believe in Geno Smith. I simply do not.

902
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: How dare you be smirched? Eugene? Your guy, Eugene Cyril

903
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:58,919
Speaker 1: Smith the Thirds What great name? Well, let's remember, let's

904
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 1: dial it back to tooth. Wasn't in thirteen when Gino

905
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 1: Smith was a rookie quarterback. I wanted to keep this

906
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: spot under an hour. But starting for a team that

907
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 1: one eight games, and he did a lot of good things.

908
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: He was a solid quarterback. He might be. Here's a

909
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 1: new category for you. Oh sorry, kids, you're back. Let

910
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 1: me write this down. Oh sorry kids, go ahead, Sorry kids,

911
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: Gino might be better than your quote unquote Hall of

912
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: Fame quarterback that's starting now, Come on, Greg, that is

913
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 1: too much. You've gone too far with that. This is

914
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: a guy that essentially seemed to have no friends in

915
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: his own locker room with the Jets. I think it's

916
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: not just the on field stuff. I don't buy Geno

917
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: Smith as an NFL starter. I don't think he even

918
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 1: wants to an NFL starter. Here's the category. Sorry, kids, Daddy.

919
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: Eli may not be coming home. Elis staying home. He

920
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 1: might be reclined on the chair at this point, just

921
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 1: watching TV, but he's not going anywhere. Um. I think

922
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 1: I all a lot of Gino. Of course I would

923
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: hit put him at the very bottom of hold the

924
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: fort right right straddling the line of taking the kids.

925
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: You can see the nuclear bomb coming right at the

926
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: front door of the house. That's some respect from a

927
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: man who's watched a lot of Gino Smith have moments.

928
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: But but no, let's have watched enough Gino Smith. Greig

929
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 1: moving the goalpost a little bit right here because a

930
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 1: year ago, this time you're talking that he could be

931
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: a starter in this league. He fitted The last time

932
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 1: we saw him play was the best four game stretch

933
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: of his career. That was three years ago. He should

934
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: be better and a blown out kneel better. All right.

935
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: You want to bring up past exploits with with bad

936
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: Jets teams? How about Ryan Fitzpatrick? Where is he? Where

937
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: is he rank? Thirty two touchdowns two years ago, a

938
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 1: disaster last year, up and down throughout his career. Where

939
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 1: does he fit in? Here's what I'd say. When he

940
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: went ten and six with the Jets and had that

941
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: career year, it came with great weapons around him. And

942
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 1: in Tampa Bay, if you ever lost Jameis Winston forest

943
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: wretch of time, he's got even better weapons around him

944
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: this year. That's true. I don't trust Ryan Fitzpatrick, you know,

945
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: year to year. But it's not the worst. It's not

946
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 1: the worst situation. I'm telling the kids, honey, go take

947
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: him to your mother. Watch out. There might be flying

948
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: football is coming at them from Ryan fitz Patrick. I mean,

949
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: he comes in there, he's a he's like either he's

950
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 1: gonna blow up your team or he's gonna be great

951
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 1: for a week. You don't know. But you're talking about

952
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: a guy that did much more with the Jets than

953
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: Geno Smith every day with the Jeck. He's getting older,

954
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: I mean that's he's older, but he's not. I mean,

955
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,919
Speaker 1: what are we talking about the age now? He's thirty three,

956
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: thirty four, He's not ancient. But I think Fitzpatrick I

957
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: would put him and hold the fort, but certainly is

958
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: not a guy to pencil in. You know what you're

959
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: gonna get out of him. You could go three and

960
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 1: one in a month with with Ryan Fitzpatrick if he

961
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 1: gets hot, but the wheels can fall off a little.

962
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: Are kind of the opposite of Matt Moore, where it's like,

963
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: you know what you're gonna get. No, you don't know what.

964
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 1: You're all right? But how about Brett Hunley over in

965
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: Green Bay. I think we almost put him in his

966
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,959
Speaker 1: own category because we've seen so little. What we've seen

967
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 1: is promising, but it's been in the preseason. Is he

968
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: a mystery man? We'll just put him in his own

969
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:12,760
Speaker 1: I don't think he. I don't. How can you really

970
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: say that he's in one of these other categories? I mean,

971
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: he would be not. I really Aaron Rodgers would be

972
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: just about the last starting quarterback I would want to

973
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 1: see get hurt. But Brett Handley would be one of

974
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 1: the more interesting backups to see play, just to see

975
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 1: what it looks like. Here are two guys I would

976
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: put in the same category. They're kind of the same

977
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: guy to me, Uh, Chase Daniel in New Orleans and

978
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: uh Colt McCoy in Washington to me, both mid to

979
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 1: lower hold the hold the Ford guys. What do you

980
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 1: guys think? I agree? I think they've shown in this

981
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 1: their current systems that they can be effective. If Daniels

982
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: maybe on any other team, I wouldn't be feeling him

983
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,240
Speaker 1: quite as much as I am in New Orleans. Agree

984
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: with that? How about all right? Let's say I know

985
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 1: head coach wasn't feeling feeling the quarterbacks earlier this week.

986
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: But let's say that Mr Simeon ends the Broncos quarterback battle,

987
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: which I still think he will, at least to start

988
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: the season. Uh. Did you see enough from Paxton Lynch

989
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: to categorize him or do you give him the past

990
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: and put him in the Huntley category. I put him in.

991
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 1: I put him in the Huntley zone category because we

992
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 1: saw very little. I think that he's a player that's

993
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: so clearly needed like a year or two to really

994
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: kind of develop, and I don't think he's all the

995
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: way there yet. Didn't look good last year, but it

996
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 1: was limited. Interesting player though if if he if he

997
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 1: can maximize like on what he is physically. There's a

998
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 1: lot going on with paxil Lynch. Alright, update mystery Man

999
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 1: category now is mystery Men? Everybody okay? Underrated now? I

1000
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,280
Speaker 1: don't even know if it's an underrated movie. It's a movie.

1001
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: I saw mystery Men. Oh? Is that the superhero comedy?

1002
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: Was it? It was like a superhero comedy. Janine Garoffalo

1003
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 1: was involved, not the biggest hard pass I mean to

1004
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: She was probably like the seventh lead, but for some

1005
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: reason I can't remember anyone else that was in it,

1006
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: which isn't a good sun. I'm not like anti Garofolo.

1007
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: Her comedic sensibilities tend to overlap with a lot of

1008
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 1: the things I find funny. So she showed up in

1009
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: a lot of things over the years that are things

1010
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 1: that I enjoy, but she was always one of the

1011
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: things I didn't enjoy as much in those projects. If

1012
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:17,439
Speaker 1: you if you know what I'm saying, If I'm making

1013
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: I get that, I I'm I'm a little bit of

1014
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: a fan. I mean, not actively, but I don't need

1015
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 1: to see her in a comedy superhero Extrangely, strangely, her

1016
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: and hand Kazaria Area are build first and yet Ben Stiller,

1017
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: Greg Kaneer, Jeffrey Russia all in this movie. So it's

1018
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 1: a curious. I believe Paul, you know, pee Wee Herman

1019
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: in a rail role outside of that, Paul Reuben, So

1020
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 1: let's go ahead and put Garofolo in Honey, Take the

1021
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: Kids to your Mother. Then I think, so, okay, what

1022
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: about Matt Castle in Tennessee? Mm hmm, no, your bangs?

1023
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 1: You know once spot once Spint the time, he was

1024
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 1: like the patron saint of this discussion because Tommy Boy

1025
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 1: blew out his A C. L and two thousand and eight,

1026
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: and then this guy stepped in with almost no experience

1027
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 1: even in college, no experience, and they went eleven and

1028
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: five the New England Patriots. Uh, that's a down here

1029
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: for the Patriots, by the way, eleven five. Um, out

1030
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: of respect for West, I'm not gonna put put him

1031
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: in hold the fort because you know West is battling,

1032
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: you know, the Big Sea right now. I don't want

1033
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,240
Speaker 1: to cause him any extra stress throwing his phone against

1034
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: the wall that, but I still would put him in

1035
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 1: the next tier down Castle. He did come in last year,

1036
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 1: by the way, for Tennessee and helped them win a game.

1037
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 1: He was he didn't embarrass them, you know, it was fine.

1038
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:31,800
Speaker 1: Part of my the way I look at this is

1039
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: the drop off from the starter to whoever is behind him,

1040
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: and there's this just a steep by the way, if

1041
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: we're watching Matt Castle, how boring the season has become

1042
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,240
Speaker 1: when it could have been Marcus Mariota And I am concerned.

1043
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 1: You know, Marcus Murder is not complete full seasons up

1044
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: to now, so there's a danger of seeing him. So

1045
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: I'm putting him in your bang because the experience will

1046
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 1: not be good. Yeah, Tennessee fans, I know you can

1047
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 1: get a little salty with me because of the tytoons

1048
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: a bit. I think there's a reason to be excited

1049
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 1: legitimately this season, but also keep your card up because

1050
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 1: we don't know if Marcus can play it a full season.

1051
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,720
Speaker 1: You know he can play, can you stay healthy? Matt Castle,

1052
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 1: that very much could be in the mix of this

1053
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: season about case Keenum. Interesting name. He's playing for the

1054
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings, backing up Sam Bradford. Uh, this discussion again,

1055
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: once West, once upon a time, it's all about that case.

1056
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 1: Now you know he threw that case out. Where do

1057
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: you guys come down on this? I think you take

1058
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: your kids to them? Yeah, how they take take the

1059
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 1: kids to your mother? I mean, Bradford, what set an

1060
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 1: NFL record for completion percentage last year. I'm not in

1061
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: love with Sam Bradford. I'm not sure there's vast amounts

1062
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: of difference between Sam Bradford and some NFL backups, but

1063
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: it's a steep drop off to case Keen. I really

1064
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 1: liked I really liked case Keen him a lot more

1065
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: after watching All or Nothing. You kind of felt for him,

1066
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,399
Speaker 1: but you also maybe understood a little bit more why

1067
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:55,280
Speaker 1: he's not a starting quarterback. He was really feeling the pressure.

1068
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 1: Uh when they when they were losing some of those

1069
00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 1: early games, it was like they lost the super Bowl

1070
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: and they were like thinking that. He was feeling like

1071
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: the season's over, right, And finally I have ten names

1072
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: here and you guys can make the argument. Stop me

1073
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: at any point. Uh, they are classified get banged, which

1074
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 1: is complete nuclear annihilation of your town. Uh, just one

1075
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: town would go out in a nuclear bomb drop. Well,

1076
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying all towns, but more specific to your life.

1077
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: Town's gone, You're you're done anyway, stop me if you disagree.

1078
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:33,720
Speaker 1: Matt Job in Atlanta absolutely banged. All right, Yeah, Landry

1079
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 1: Jones and Pittsburgh, Oh yeah, return your season tickets. See

1080
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 1: if you can get some money back. Josh Tobbs, watch

1081
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: you out. Tobbs is gonna win that backup spot and

1082
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:48,280
Speaker 1: then you're not so banged. Put that thing on. However, whatever, Um,

1083
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 1: Ryan Mallett in Baltimore, come on, Oh, you're to see

1084
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 1: at the bottom of you banged, you're double banged. Matt

1085
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: shob is down there, but there's some trash at the

1086
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 1: bottom of that list. I think they're stuck with Mallett too.

1087
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 1: They just signed Austin I would give all the rest

1088
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,320
Speaker 1: of their cap room to a tackle. I don't know

1089
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: if they're signing Kaepernick. I can't believe this guy's in

1090
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: the NFL. I thought he was on the Curtis Painter

1091
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 1: era Colts. But Scott told Zine Uh in Indianapolis you're

1092
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: you're bang so bad you might be back at the

1093
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 1: number one overall pick with the Colts. It's amazing that

1094
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 1: they told Zing a big, big favorite in Green Bay

1095
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 1: for a while. That's not a crazy thought. If this

1096
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: luck thing is worst case scenario. I mean, they're not

1097
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 1: gonna be scamming for Sam. I you believe that if

1098
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 1: if your Jets trying to get to number one in

1099
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 1: the Colts jump you're just like they did for Peyton Manning.

1100
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: They didn't jump me like the Peyton just bailed on

1101
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: the Jets. I don't know. I don't know why. I

1102
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 1: don't hold that against him. I should. The Cowboys and

1103
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore big banging. Have we seen enough with Kellen Moore?

1104
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: We haven't seen much. Made a few throws last night

1105
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: and then come you guys, this ever happened, people would

1106
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 1: people would take some argument like, wow that you know

1107
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: that with this Cowboys offensive line, like now, any quarterback

1108
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 1: would thrive. Kelly tell us about Kellen Moore yesterday? Serviceable.

1109
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: I I'm not. He did not change my opinion of

1110
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: him overall. He you know what, he looked pretty good

1111
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 1: A couple of seasons ago, late in the season when

1112
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: they gave him, I think a game and a half

1113
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: and that was what earned him this faith by Dallas,

1114
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: so maybe he could. Maybe it's more a situation where

1115
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: your future coach take kids kids, he's throwing a hundred

1116
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: and four passes in his career. Take your kids to

1117
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: the movies. No, it's take them up States. They got

1118
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 1: to take him to your mother's out of danger, not

1119
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: just to the cinema. I don't I'm not totally familiar

1120
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: with this gentleman. Ruddick of Detroit. Well, the two the

1121
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 1: backup scenario in general, it's just Detroit is you're I

1122
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: don't know why they Maybe they love one of these guys.

1123
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: I personally get Detroit's lucky they're in this conversation after

1124
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: the way they handled training kid. It's about it's about

1125
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: as bad a backup situation Brad Kaya and Jake Roddick.

1126
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 1: I don't they lost Stafford. It's he's sneaky, one of

1127
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 1: the most valuable players. That they lost Stafford, they'd be

1128
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: in the mix for number one. I think banged um

1129
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 1: boy king over in Seattle hasn't been looking good according

1130
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: to UH some reports, which makes me think maybe that's

1131
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 1: the Kaepernick Land needs spot. You banged got Austin Davis's

1132
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: Carol always made Carol did not dismiss the Kaepernick. They

1133
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: kind of sidestepped it more than anything else. I believe

1134
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: during one of the slower periods of the NFL calendar,

1135
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 1: we had it like a CP like the main image

1136
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 1: on our homepage saying like Seattle Kaepernick, it's happening, baby,

1137
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: something like that. It didn't never happen, obviously, but it

1138
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 1: also has never dismissed. I think that was the headlin

1139
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 1: exactly it was. They wanted it to happen. Seattle Comma, Kaepernick, Comma,

1140
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 1: it's happening. Maybe slamming uh Cardinals, Drew Stanton still there,

1141
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 1: Drew still there, dancing away on the sidelines playing gabb

1142
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: Er two. I would put I don't know, if you

1143
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, if that's a your banged scenario. I

1144
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 1: would go the one notch up, take the kids, wife,

1145
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 1: take the kids upstate, far upstate. Okay, how about the

1146
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 1: Oakland it's EJ. Manuel and who else? Who's the other

1147
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: guy but Cook? Who was a disaster in the playoff game.

1148
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 1: That's only one game, But I can you know what

1149
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 1: I would put them honey, take your kids see mothers.

1150
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 1: I would say you banged. I don't trust EJ Manuel

1151
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: had only seen out of EJ Manuel is not positive,

1152
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: say the least overall pick it's got to count for something. No,

1153
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:24,919
Speaker 1: it does not count for anything other than the fact

1154
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 1: that the people that made that pick are no longer

1155
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 1: with the Bills. Kevin Clemens is still in the league

1156
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 1: US the backup for Philip Rivers in Los Angeles. That

1157
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 1: is a recipe to torpedo any interest in this in

1158
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: this move to Los Angeles. If Rivers got I think

1159
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 1: that was never gets hurt. By the way, I don't

1160
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:43,959
Speaker 1: think he's ever missed the game. That was a team

1161
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 1: that might have considered let's not go quarterback now. Oh boy,

1162
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 1: it's too late. Now, it's too late. Now it's been said.

1163
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 1: All right, there you go. So there it's slim pickings.

1164
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 1: As bad as it feels, as bad as it is

1165
00:59:57,920 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 1: for the Dobbins right now, it could be a lot worse,

1166
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 1: all right, before we get out of here. Yes, the

1167
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, it's happening. Get excited. Who's going into

1168
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: the Hall this year? We got Drrell Davis or Danny

1169
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 1: and Tomlinson Kurt Warner, Hurt Warner, all NFL network employees. Right,

1170
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 1: it's pretty big boon to this old enterprise. You're doubling

1171
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 1: the amount of Hall of Famers that are employed here,

1172
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 1: three to six. It's no joke. Anybody else? Do I

1173
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 1: miss anyone? I want to be respectful at least to

1174
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 1: the guys that got voted in in the standard. Oh

1175
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 1: you got Jerry Jones, of course, Morten Anderson, You've got

1176
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: Jason Taylor. You've got Morton Andersonson. What you missed last

1177
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 1: night in the Hall of Fame game was the letter

1178
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 1: that Tom Brady wrote on behalf of Jason Taylor to

1179
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 1: get to to argue for him to be in the

1180
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Pretty incredible letter. Morden Anderson is in

1181
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 1: second kicker all time. Well come on, Dan, I've been

1182
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: too plugged in on this, but um, congratulations everybody. Anyway,

1183
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: So here we go. Here we go now, Greg Road

1184
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 1: a banger. Uh. Even though he just chastised me, I'll

1185
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 1: look Kenny easily. I knew he were forgetting Seahawks fun.

1186
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,919
Speaker 1: We were missing one name there. Anyway, Greg, you wrote

1187
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 1: a piece you argued eleven players on the bubble for

1188
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 1: the Hall of fame. Uh and uh, you believe Greg?

1189
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 1: How do we want to do this? How should we

1190
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 1: do this? Greg? Why don't you start us here? I'll

1191
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 1: throw out well on the bubbles as a tricky uh,

1192
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 1: lead to it because I had some real long shots,

1193
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 1: and I make it clear they're real long shots. Uh.

1194
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 1: And maybe the most interesting name in there, which I

1195
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 1: thought about, was Matt Ryan. Now that's he was the

1196
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 1: longest of these long shots. But when you have a

1197
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 1: historical season like he had an m v P season,

1198
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 1: that makes a big time difference. And if you look

1199
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 1: at the shape of careers, now, if he could have

1200
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 1: a mid thirties run a little like Breeze Brady Manning

1201
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 1: where he plays his very best and has a two

1202
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 1: or three more really top notch seasons. You look at

1203
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 1: his just Ron numbers, he's going to end up in

1204
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 1: the top seven eight all time passing yards, passing touchdowns.

1205
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 1: He needs to do a lot more. I'm just saying

1206
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 1: having that one season is like a pillar. He's putting

1207
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 1: his post in the ground, and now he's got a

1208
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 1: chance if he really plays well and let's say this,

1209
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 1: Let's say he does that and he has you know,

1210
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 1: a productive more. We have to be Super Bowl too.

1211
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 1: What is so different between him and Kurt Warner? One

1212
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 1: super Bowl one, one lost in a bunch of great seasons.

1213
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 1: The long shot, that's what would have really helped closing.

1214
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 1: That came out in February, so you could think about

1215
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 1: that a second. At some point he needs to win there.

1216
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 1: You also have Brandon Marshall as a long shot, which

1217
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 1: I feel like I got laughed out of this room

1218
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 1: for suggesting that a couple of years ago. But if

1219
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 1: you look at his numbers, they are excellent. I know

1220
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 1: he slowed down last year, but if he has a

1221
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 1: nice end of his career here, he wouldn't have my vote.

1222
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 1: But I think if he could do two more years

1223
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 1: of thousand yards, you know, close to ten touchdowns each year,

1224
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 1: and importantly have a playoff moment or two, then he

1225
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 1: I think could convince some voters. I think that position

1226
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 1: is really crowded and tough, but if he does it,

1227
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 1: for if he if he were to leave right now,

1228
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 1: I would say it's gonna take a while. The name

1229
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 1: that stuck out to me that I hadn't really thought

1230
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 1: about much was in Dominican Sue, who I really believe

1231
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 1: is on track to make the Hall of Fame, and

1232
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 1: you don't. I guess they hadn't thought about it because

1233
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 1: he's a guy who inspires some mixed feelings. But when

1234
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 1: you do the All Decades team, he's gonna be your

1235
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 1: defensive tackle of the two thousand tens. He's made five

1236
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 1: All Pro teams first or second team out of seven years,

1237
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 1: and there's not many players like him. But just that

1238
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 1: that disruptive against the running the past. To me, he's

1239
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 1: kind of done the hard part. The only thing he

1240
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 1: has to avoid is some crazy injuries or a total decline.

1241
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 1: But they would give him that. They gave him a

1242
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 1: record setting contract and they would give it to him again.

1243
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 1: He's one of these I would say he was one

1244
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:46,439
Speaker 1: of the defining defensive players of his generation. I feel

1245
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 1: like that's a major You have to be one of

1246
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 1: those guys, and it's hard to argue with Sue isn't

1247
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 1: one of those guys. I also think that some of

1248
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 1: the things that have kept for instance, Terrell Owens out

1249
01:03:57,720 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 1: with the personality side of it and all this stuff

1250
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 1: when we're voting, when people are voting for the Tomican

1251
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 1: Sue ten twelve thirteen years fourteen years from now, are

1252
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 1: people gonna care about the dolmic NSO's you know, ups

1253
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 1: and downs? Is that what he's the most famous for, though, honestly,

1254
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 1: the Thanksgiving I don't think he should be well. I

1255
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 1: think it probably is up there. Well. I thought about

1256
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 1: how he's kind of a paradoxical player because I think,

1257
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 1: like the Lions fans probably, I feel like he's a

1258
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 1: little unfulfilled in terms of his potential. I think fans

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Speaker 1: feel like that because he was so good in college.

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Speaker 1: He was so good as a rookie that the bar

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Speaker 1: was so high, and yet I think overall you can't

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Speaker 1: knock at all what he what he's accomplished. He also

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Speaker 1: gets banged by his position a little bit because it's

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Speaker 1: not like a numbers stacking type position. So he doesn't

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Speaker 1: have like eight fifteen sacks seasons or anything. But but

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Speaker 1: he's played for two organizations who have not really had

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Speaker 1: their act together in terms of continuity. If he was

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Speaker 1: with a better team, I think people would You can

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Speaker 1: put trell sugs in your whole fame att one. He's

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Speaker 1: not in mind. I put him as a long I'm

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Speaker 1: just trying to, you know, look at the guys bad

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Speaker 1: person clause I would sit there, but we can. We

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Speaker 1: can't move on from this without making my annual Frank

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Speaker 1: Gore mentioned numbers are starting to get hard to ignore.

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Speaker 1: Six hundred more yards and he in this season, and

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Speaker 1: he would be up to number five all time, passing

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Speaker 1: La Dainian Tomlinson. He's had twelve hundred yards for eleven

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01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 1: straight seasons. That is an outrageous statistic. I'd have no

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Speaker 1: problem with that. Who how many people do you think

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Speaker 1: would say absolutely not? He's one of the great compilers

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Speaker 1: of all time? And is he was he ever the

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Speaker 1: top five running back in the league? Absolutely early seas? Okay,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's just I guess the thing. The only

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01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:41,919
Speaker 1: thing I'll say is he's not He's not a wow

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01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:45,440
Speaker 1: guy at least in the past six or seven years. Now.

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Speaker 1: He's a grand out guy that's you look at the

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Speaker 1: end of the season, like, oh, he had another nice season.

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Speaker 1: But is he a guy that you're putting the offense

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Speaker 1: on his back and he's taking teams special places because

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Speaker 1: he's such a dynamic talent. I really respect the career

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Speaker 1: he's had. Is he one of the greatest running backs

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Speaker 1: of all time? If we put Jerome bettis in the

1293
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:03,360
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, don't we put Frank Goren. I never

1294
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 1: would have thought that there would have been a good argument.

1295
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 1: I always thought this was gonna be a huge uphill

1296
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 1: battle because Gore's basically my favorite player from this generation.

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01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 1: Uh And now it feels a little less like an

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01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 1: uphill battle. But I don't think he'll be I don't

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01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 1: think he'll be a slam dunk. I mean, he's been

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01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 1: playing so long. He's had a twelve yard season Dan

1301
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 1: when the first Inconvenient Truth came out in two thousand

1302
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 1: six by al Ghar, and when the second in Convenient

1303
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 1: Truth that's coming out in the sequel in two thousand seventeen,

1304
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 1: he's still there. He spans that whole era. I like this,

1305
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 1: James Harrison. You say that he has helped his case.

1306
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 1: I absolutely think James Harrison belongs in the Hall of Fame.

1307
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 1: I'm surprised to hear that that'll be well he I

1308
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 1: think for me sometimes it's like I think that he

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01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 1: the fact that he back then that was two thousand

1310
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 1: and ten or something, two thousand and eleven, I mean,

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01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 1: he is still around. The longevity itself is incredible. Doesn't

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Speaker 1: have the numbers, but I think he uh, he as

1313
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 1: the intangent. At his peak, he was a feared game

1314
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:07,480
Speaker 1: changing talent and now he's in this weird like extended

1315
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 1: epilogue to his career, which is hard not to uh

1316
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 1: have a lot of respect for. And if you track

1317
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 1: his Instagram account, it's insane the amount of work he's

1318
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 1: put in to stay in the league. Last parting thought, Greg,

1319
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 1: I just appreciate all the time, you know, I know,

1320
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 1: I wanted to keep the show tight here and I

1321
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 1: really blew it. It's not oh yeah here, it is Dwight.

1322
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 1: Dwight Freeney. He put if there was any doubt, he

1323
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 1: put himself in the Hall of Fame. I don't care

1324
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 1: that their offense blew that game. The fact that he

1325
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 1: was the most valuable pass rusher, six pressures, a sack,

1326
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 1: a tackle for lost. That should have been his Michael

1327
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 1: Strahan moment. So even though they blew it, it's the

1328
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 1: moment for me and I think that put him over

1329
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, that sucks. I haven't really thought about that.

1330
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 1: He had such a great game that completely got washed away.

1331
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 1: That Freney was a major impact player. Gave Nate Soldier nightmares.

1332
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 1: That got wiped away and it shouldn't be and hopefully

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Speaker 1: it won't be Greg all right, great show, guys, beefy,

1334
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 1: but informative. That's how I would have described today's show

1335
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 1: post grade, post show grade, I'm gonna give it a

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01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 1: B B plus, B plus overachieving today. Yeah, I liked it.

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Speaker 1: I like the show. We missed West, though hopefully West

1338
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 1: will be back. Uh next week, um tomorrow Saturday is

1339
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:27,759
Speaker 1: the Shield Celebration Bonanza at cessler manor uh to uh

1340
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:30,599
Speaker 1: you know, back to back l A County C plus

1341
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 1: champions so deal with its society. So we're gonna throw

1342
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 1: down this weekend. Mark there until we get I guarantee

1343
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 1: this ends with the police at my house. Uh. I

1344
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 1: am slightly concerned but excited about it. I mean it can.

1345
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 1: It might not even be for noise or anything. It

1346
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 1: might be just like a parole violation with our team,

1347
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 1: you know. That's right. That's a lot of colorful characters.

1348
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:51,600
Speaker 1: One one quick note, I am going to extend the

1349
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 1: show in extra thirty seconds. I have tried to follow

1350
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 1: up on your task of sorting through this Reddit scenario

1351
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 1: and there is no Let me just clarib that we

1352
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 1: we promised the five thousand uh read it follower on

1353
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:07,879
Speaker 1: our subreddit around the NFL would get some type of prize.

1354
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 1: Mark graciously accepted the task of figuring out what it was.

1355
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 1: Frost on me. But yes, okay, where are we at. Well,

1356
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 1: we're in a tough place. There's like, according to the

1357
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 1: you know, to greed being the rest of the people

1358
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 1: that run this ship over there, there is no tangible

1359
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 1: way to discern the five thousand follower, or even the

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01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 1: first or the last. I have an idea. Well, believe me,

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01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:30,639
Speaker 1: I've been getting I've been getting a lot of people

1362
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 1: telling me I'm your random person. It's like, we could

1363
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 1: take this offline. But I have an idea. How had

1364
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 1: to do that? I want to reward them. I care

1365
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 1: about these people. There's a lot of good chatter on

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01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 1: that reddit. Porter. Yeah, yeah, we love the subreddit. Make

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Speaker 1: sure you check it out. It's almost six thousand strong,

1368
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 1: might even be six thousand now. Uh, even Greg's plugging

1369
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 1: in on it now. I think so it's it's really

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Speaker 1: taken off um, but thank you for everyone that listens. Uh,

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Speaker 1: let's let's go home, let's go to lunch stand hands

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Speaker 1: signing off for WHI it's the arm, the old Boss,

1373
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 1: Sully behind the glass, Erica back back, who actually is tail?

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Speaker 1: Monday m m hm