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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. All right, let's bring in Dan Orlovsky, ESPN

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Speaker 1: Football Analyst. You can see him on NFL Live Monday

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Speaker 1: through Friday at for Eastern with Laura Rutledge, Mina Kimes,

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Speaker 1: Marcus Spears, Ryan Clark, Adam Schefter. First question, it's not

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Speaker 1: football related. What makes stuff Curry so great? Dan, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, I've I've talked about it a lot, how

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Speaker 1: great he's good at everything. Thank you for playing along.

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Speaker 1: Is there a player that you've run out of ways

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Speaker 1: to describe how great they are? Tom is up there? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Tom is certainly up there because

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Speaker 1: he's done it for so long at such a high,

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Speaker 1: high level. I thought Rivas was there years ago. Revis

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Speaker 1: was a guy that got up there. But I would

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Speaker 1: say Tom, you know, Aaron definitely, Aaron is still there,

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Speaker 1: you know, and it's he's great because of the same

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Speaker 1: stuff he's been great for for a decade. But you

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Speaker 1: had Mahomes who felt like he was on the cusp

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Speaker 1: of that. But now all of a sudden, we kind of,

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Speaker 1: you know, started chopping away at his pedal stole here

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Speaker 1: where where's Mahomes now in on the list of quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: in the NFL this season. Yeah, I mean, if we're

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Speaker 1: just talking about this season, you know, Patrick's probably guys

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Speaker 1: that have played better than Patrick. Thom has played better,

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Speaker 1: Lamar's played better, Dak Dak has played better, Matthew Stafford's

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Speaker 1: played better, Josh Allen's played better. So I mean, Patrick's

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Speaker 1: probably somewhere around the six or seven range as far

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Speaker 1: as just performance this year. I would still if I

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Speaker 1: had the you know, the two, three, four, five picking

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Speaker 1: next year's NFL draft, and Patrick was a guy that

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Speaker 1: I could pick, I'd trade all four of those picks

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Speaker 1: for the number one spot to go get him. I

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Speaker 1: think he's been a lot better the past two or

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Speaker 1: three weeks, stand a lot better. Mechanically, he's been so

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Speaker 1: much better. You could tell that's been an emphasis. You know.

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Speaker 1: I think that this past weekend, you know, was a

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Speaker 1: great performance. When it came to the end result production,

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Speaker 1: you could see he was very purposeful. You know, I

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Speaker 1: kind of said that this week day. He took about

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Speaker 1: fifty times against the Raiders, forty four times he got

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Speaker 1: the ball out in one hit or less. That's intent

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Speaker 1: to be completion driven. He will not have that experience

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Speaker 1: against the Cowboys though. The Cowboys are not going to

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Speaker 1: give him completions like that this week. So he's been

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Speaker 1: better and he's still the most talented guy at the position.

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Speaker 1: We see golfers get in bad habits. How do quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: get into bad habits? Even the great ones? Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: have success within those bad habits. You know, the kind

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Speaker 1: of the way I phrased it was bad process, good results.

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Speaker 1: You know, he was having good results and this is

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Speaker 1: for a stretcher period of time. And it's a fine

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Speaker 1: lined in because you don't want to take that away

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Speaker 1: from him. That's his superpowers. He's able to play so

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Speaker 1: well and be so accurate and make the correct throat

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Speaker 1: to correct time when everything isn't kind of perfect or right.

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Speaker 1: But when you have a stretch of period a period

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Speaker 1: of time where you have a good result but a

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Speaker 1: bad process, that's how you get into bad habits. And

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Speaker 1: you know, bad habits aren't something that happened overnight. They

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Speaker 1: happen over a long period of time. And that's why

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Speaker 1: I say, like there's that saying in the NFL, winning

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Speaker 1: cures everything. That's a myth. Winning covers everything, and it's

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Speaker 1: really difficult to go in as a coach and go, hey, Patrick,

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Speaker 1: we really got to make sure that we're focused every

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Speaker 1: single day in our fundamentals. When he goes, hey, man,

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Speaker 1: I just threw for three eighty and four touchdowns. You know,

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Speaker 1: like what you know? So you've got to be so

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Speaker 1: obsessive and nitpicky in a way and focusing on the

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Speaker 1: things that can cat I remembered then Aaron Rodgers went

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Speaker 1: through this. Now, Aaron Rodgers went through stuff where because

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Speaker 1: these guys are so physically gifted, so physically gifted, and

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Speaker 1: they can do so much without having to be Drew

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Speaker 1: to be even a guy like right now, like Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 1: Those guys have to be correct all the time, technically

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Speaker 1: you know, it seems like Patrick, like I said, of

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Speaker 1: the past couple of weeks, is started to show some

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Speaker 1: better stuff in regards to that better understanding of the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs right now or the Cowboys right now. Oh, the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys completely. I think the Cowboys the Broncos game

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Speaker 1: was that blip in the radar. I said this, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if there's a team in the NFC, and

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Speaker 1: I think there's a team in the AFC, maybe Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's a team in the NFC offensively

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Speaker 1: Cowboys offense has in multiple games this year. I don't

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Speaker 1: think there's a team in the NFC that can line

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Speaker 1: up and go, we will beat you on offense however

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Speaker 1: you want us to. However you want us to both,

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Speaker 1: they can and they will. They got the people to

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Speaker 1: do it, and they've got the coaching to do it.

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Speaker 1: You want us to throw fifty times, will throw it fifty.

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Speaker 1: You want us to run at fifty, will run at fifty.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's a team in the NFC that

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Speaker 1: has done that. And then I don't think there's a

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Speaker 1: defense in the NFC that has suffocated offenses more than

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys defense has this year. And so I

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Speaker 1: think that's what we got a really good understanding of

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Speaker 1: who Dallas is. I know Kansas City has played better

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Speaker 1: in the past couple of weeks. I just doing my job. Defensively,

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Speaker 1: they have been better of the past two weeks. They

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Speaker 1: The Raiders are a wildly different offense without Henry Ruggs.

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Speaker 1: And I think offensively, like I said, the Raiders scheme wise,

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Speaker 1: So I have said it's nice to see, but I

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Speaker 1: got to see it against Dallas. Former NFL quarterback now

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Speaker 1: ESPN football analyst Dan Olonsky joining us. Just a bad

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Speaker 1: night for the Rams or they're a bigger picture here now.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a little bit of a bigger picture.

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Speaker 1: Definitely a bad night. I think offensively, they were exposed

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Speaker 1: they've gone to this empty mindset, empty package, five guys

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Speaker 1: it's stuff that quarterbacks see well, they don't have to

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Speaker 1: know the coverage. They can just go through progressions one,

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Speaker 1: I think they need to do it to protect what

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Speaker 1: right now is their greatest weakness on offense, and that's

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Speaker 1: You know, when you get into that empty set, defensive lineman,

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Speaker 1: don't you've made them play one dimensional. It's a pass boys.

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Speaker 1: You know, when we can go be pass rushers when

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Speaker 1: they don't know it's a pass. They can work in

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Speaker 1: unison a lot more. In the play action game, you're

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Speaker 1: moving the launch point for the quarterbacks. Sometimes he's behind

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Speaker 1: Which tackle is it going to be? Sometimes he's outside

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Speaker 1: I really think this is a a moment similar to

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Speaker 1: you got you gotta go more play action for tom

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Speaker 1: You've got to keep them protected. You gotta use motion more.

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Speaker 1: And well they did after they're buying it helped. I

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Speaker 1: think it's similar to that. And then I just touched

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Speaker 1: on the defense Dan, like they are philosophically, what's going

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Speaker 1: on in the NFL right now? A lot of teams

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Speaker 1: lead the charge in that. That's fine, that's great. You

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Speaker 1: gotta know how teams are going to attack you, though.

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Speaker 1: You gotta know. You gotta know that teams are gonna

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Speaker 1: And if you're gonna do that. I think their corners

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Speaker 1: In the corners and safeties they're hanging back like what's up.

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Speaker 1: feels like most of these quarterbacks get one week. I

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Speaker 1: mentioned Jameis Winston week one, always a dark horse for

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Speaker 1: Or did they get wrong with Mac Jones? Or did

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Speaker 1: the right coach. I think a lot of people had

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Speaker 1: consequence to bad plays in practice. When you're that guy,

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Speaker 1: how you use these things, your eyeballs, how you use

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Speaker 1: I fell in love with with Mac and the draft process.

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Speaker 1: And I was the person who was pounded the table

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Speaker 1: firmly believed that Kyle Wan and Mac at three. I think, well,

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Speaker 1: we're in an era where, you know, physically, we have

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Speaker 1: fallen in love with the physical attributes of quarterbacks, as

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Speaker 1: we should, as we should Josh and Lamar and Patrick.

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Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, the quarterback position

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Speaker 1: has always been can you think and can you throw?

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Speaker 1: And if you do those two things at an incredibly

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Speaker 1: high level consistently, you are gonna be really, really, really good.

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Speaker 1: And I think we became so obsessed with well, he's

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Speaker 1: he plays really fast. And I think that's the thing

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Speaker 1: you're seeing is he just plays so fast and he's

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Speaker 1: got redrafted Dan. Yeah, the first quarterback off the board,

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. Okay, the second quarterback off the board. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns, Cleveland Browns, lumin Field and no idea never

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Speaker 1: even heard of it, seawngs Okay State Farm Stadium. That

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Speaker 1: is the Arizona Cardinals. Uh t I a A bank

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Speaker 1: Field Jacksonville Jaguars. All right, Okay, I did I did okay,

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Speaker 1: but listen if I'm not one hundred percent there, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know you. I think the folks at Lumen are

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Speaker 1: withdrawing their money right now, Tied pods Field, that's fake,

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Speaker 1: thank you. Uh? Is this the anniversary of the Michael

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Speaker 1: Jordan's shoe? This is so? This is the day in

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty four where Jordan walked on the court with

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Speaker 1: the air Jordan's. He is previous. He previously wore air ships,

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Speaker 1: which is the shoe that was banned by the NBA,

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Speaker 1: but not really. Nike used that it was a black

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Speaker 1: shoe with with uh you know, the red swoosh that um,

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Speaker 1: that was that Nike then said was banned by the

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Speaker 1: NBA and that caused all the marketing. But yes, against

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Speaker 1: doctor j on this day in eighty four, Uh, he

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Speaker 1: did wear the shoe. And by the way, there is

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Speaker 1: no evidence in any article that anyone noticed it scoring

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Speaker 1: sixteen points in a loss. But I collect tickets and

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Speaker 1: think you guys have it. I have a ticket from

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Speaker 1: that game. Yeah. I think we're showing it now if

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Speaker 1: you're watching. Which is interesting because as people are collecting tickets,

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Speaker 1: there's twenty three graded tickets of Michael Jordan's debut on

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Speaker 1: October twenty nine, eighty four. There's only three of when

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Speaker 1: he showed up in the Air Jordans for the first time,

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Speaker 1: So I kind of like, I kind of like it.

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Speaker 1: Tickets tickets collecting tickets has certainly picked up in the

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Speaker 1: last six months to a year. What would those original

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Speaker 1: air Jordans go for? Well, the earliest known Air Jordans

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Speaker 1: just went where he wore them in a game I

456
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Speaker 1: think it was against maybe San Antonio is fourth game

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Speaker 1: that just sold for like one point one million bucks.

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Speaker 1: So the first ever Air Jordans, I think that's probably

459
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Speaker 1: three or four or five million bucks. What other tickets

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Speaker 1: are valuable? Now? People love the debuts, you know, Mickey

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Speaker 1: mantle debut Soul for more than one hundred thousand, the

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Speaker 1: Wayne Gretzky debut Soul for one hundred thousand. I think

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Speaker 1: you know, the scarcity on things are of these are

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Speaker 1: so uh there's the numbers are so tight, right because

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Speaker 1: like what did you do with a ticket? Like before

466
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Speaker 1: you put it on the bulletin board, you put it

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Speaker 1: on in a scrapbook, But like how did you keep

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Speaker 1: these things over time? Um? So we got this week,

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Speaker 1: we got Thiesman's leg tomorrow. I have that ticket, um,

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Speaker 1: and then I think on Saturday we have I didn't

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Speaker 1: give this to your boys, so hopefully you can see

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Speaker 1: this one. Dan, what is this? Nineteen eighty two cal? Uh?

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Speaker 1: What is it? It's it's a cal Stanford. Oh the

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Speaker 1: band is on the field. Well, band is on the field,

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Speaker 1: and there's only there's only four of these and I

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Speaker 1: have one of them. I mean, this is, by the

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Speaker 1: way that some of the good parts about tickets that

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Speaker 1: you get on sports cards McDonald that there's like some

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Speaker 1: of the old and obviously the more defunct. You know,

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Speaker 1: if you will get a Knicks ticket that has crazy

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Speaker 1: Eddie on it, uh, you know, or the defuncts. You know,

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Speaker 1: some of these old ads are kind of classic. What's

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Speaker 1: the white whale that you're looking for? Uh? I don't

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Speaker 1: I really don't want to say it, but no, but

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Speaker 1: umicket or uh so? So I did manage to get

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Speaker 1: the Randy Johnson pulverizes the bird game very rare, very

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Speaker 1: rare because it was a spring training game. There only

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Speaker 1: three thousand people there. I did manage to get that.

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Speaker 1: Um I'm looking for I mean, I'm looking for so

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Speaker 1: many I did get recently, I got the flutey Hail

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Speaker 1: Mary pass. Very very difficult, but there's I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: what's It's a search, right like with cards. You go

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Speaker 1: on eBay, you type it and you go, oh it's there,

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Speaker 1: you know. Um, I'm trying to think of, like what

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Speaker 1: is the one. Oh I did get the lee Elia

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Speaker 1: uh tirade from eighty three the you know the cubs

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Speaker 1: when he when he when he's when he when he

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Speaker 1: says to the fans like half the world is working.

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Speaker 1: The rest of you bubbles are on breaking the field,

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Speaker 1: Like can you imagine today that type of Oh I

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Speaker 1: did get the Dennis Green rant. They are who we

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Speaker 1: thought they were right away. Uh And I do have

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Speaker 1: and I do I'm the only one. It's the only

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Speaker 1: one that they graded. I do have the Mike Gundy.

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Speaker 1: I'm a man. I'm I'm forty coming me. I'm a man,

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Speaker 1: I'm forty. Um so the uh okay, I am looking

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Speaker 1: I got it, I got it, I got it. I

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Speaker 1: am looking as part of my rant collection. I am

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Speaker 1: looking for the Jim Mora playoffs playoffs. I'm looking for

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Speaker 1: I'm looking for that. Um you need help, uh my wife,

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Speaker 1: you know, help you need help. Um, I think that's

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Speaker 1: all I got for you. All right. That's great to

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Speaker 1: talk to you, so I love seeing you. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to

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Speaker 1: According to ESPN Joe Flacco, we'll get to start for

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Speaker 1: a blitz heavy defense. Yes, point, the Mike White era

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Speaker 1: is over. We said that the worst thing that could

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Speaker 1: happen to Mike White is he played another game after

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Speaker 1: throwing for four hundred yards. Right then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: it's like Mike White is who he thought he was.

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Speaker 1: Now Joe Flacco gets the start. Rodney Harrison loved playing

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Speaker 1: against quarterbacks like that. The Football Night in America analyst,

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Speaker 1: two time Super Bowl champ and hopefully on the doorstep

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Speaker 1: of being a Hall of Famer. One day Steelers taking

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Speaker 1: on the Chargers Sunday Night Football, Rodney joins us on

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Speaker 1: the program, Rod how are you this morning? Good morning, Dan,

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Speaker 1: How are you, sir? I'm good. I'm curious how Bill

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Speaker 1: Belichick would defend Mac Jones. Well, he's a rookie quarterback,

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Speaker 1: and just like most rookie quarterbacks. And you've seen the

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Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens, You've seen Mike Zimmer in the Minnesota Vikings.

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Speaker 1: You've seen the Patriots do the same thing against Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 1: So they don't care. These defensive coordinators don't care. How

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Speaker 1: good you are, how good of a young player you are.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna show you different looks, they're gonna try to

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Speaker 1: confuse you, they're gonna pressure you. And that's what you're

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Speaker 1: seeing from a lot of these defensive coordinators going against

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Speaker 1: young quarterbacks. Zach Wilson is one of them, and you know,

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Speaker 1: even Joe Burrow. You see these defensive coordinators trying to

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Speaker 1: create confusion and get these guys to throw interceptions, and

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Speaker 1: that's what they've been doing. Now you all in on

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones the tsolutely, Yeah, absolutely, I've been like I

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Speaker 1: thought that was the still of the draft. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, when Kyle Shanahan had an opportunity I think

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Speaker 1: at the three spot or whatever to grab him, I

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Speaker 1: was hoping that he didn't get them because I'm like,

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Speaker 1: this dude fits perfectly. I mean, for him to be

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Speaker 1: able to go from Nick Saban system to Bill Belichick

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Speaker 1: system and basically just change jerseys and you know, two

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Speaker 1: very similar guys that do things a certain way. I

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Speaker 1: thought it was a blessing. But do you see and

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Speaker 1: I know that she's a dangerous comparison, But let me

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Speaker 1: compare to Brady first, starting with New England, mac Jones

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Speaker 1: first starting It is Mac ahead of schedule from where

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady was. I think, I think I don't know

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Speaker 1: about all that. All I know is this, this is

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Speaker 1: a young good player. He's a guy that works hard.

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Speaker 1: He puts his team first. He cares about winning, he

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Speaker 1: cares about preparation, he cares about doing all the little things.

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Speaker 1: And I think you see that the Patriots are starting

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Speaker 1: to come together as a team. All the fundamentals, all

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Speaker 1: the little things that Coach Belichick teaches, these guys are

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Speaker 1: starting to trust and believe in, and you're starting to

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Speaker 1: see it. They're starting to win football games there. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let me just say this, this is a very good

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Speaker 1: young quarterback. He doesn't make a lot of mistakes. He's

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Speaker 1: very tough on himself, and he stays in the moment.

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Speaker 1: That's what they tell me. He's so focused and he

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Speaker 1: stays in the moment that you know, he's just he's

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Speaker 1: just a really good, smart football player and they love him.

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Speaker 1: Why do you think the Niners decided that they were

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Speaker 1: going to take LANs instead of mac Jones. Probably public pressure.

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Speaker 1: I mean, everybody wants to get into this. I need

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Speaker 1: an athletic quarterback. I need an athletic quarterback. Yeah, he

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Speaker 1: could run around, you know, and do all these incredible

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Speaker 1: plays at times, but you need somebody that can sit

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Speaker 1: in the pocket, read the defenses, communicate to the offense,

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Speaker 1: get everybody in a right position. And sometimes that's not

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Speaker 1: sexy enough. A lot of these, you know, coaches, they

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Speaker 1: fall pressure, you know, fall to the pressure of the

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Speaker 1: public man. And when you get a guy like Matt Jones,

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Speaker 1: who smart, who puts the team first, who does things right,

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Speaker 1: I don't see how you can bypass a guy like that.

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Speaker 1: And ultimately, when you make a decision like that, it

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Speaker 1: can ultimately cost you your job. Look look what's going

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Speaker 1: on in Chicago with Matt Nagy. I mean, how many

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Speaker 1: times does he get to screw up a quarterback situation

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Speaker 1: and keep a job. Well, he might have gotten this

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Speaker 1: one right. With Justin Fields, well it's not like they're

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Speaker 1: getting it right because they still haven't done a good

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Speaker 1: job of putting offensive line in front of the guy.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's like it's crazy. Well

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Speaker 1: that's why I always go back to Andrew luck Rod.

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Speaker 1: And it's nice to have a one hundred million dollars quarterback,

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Speaker 1: but if you got, you know, twenty five cent offensive line,

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Speaker 1: then it's a poor investment. And I think Andrew Luck

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Speaker 1: fell out of love with football. He was getting beat

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Speaker 1: up and he was still a very good quarterback, but

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Speaker 1: he wasn't being protected. They finally got around to protecting him,

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Speaker 1: and then he's like, I'm gonna check out. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to play anymore. And then think and then think

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Speaker 1: of this too. I mean, just because you're a great

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Speaker 1: football player doesn't mean that you want to play twenty

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Speaker 1: years in the NFL. You know, guys have gold. Hey,

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Speaker 1: I want to play ten years in the league. I

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Speaker 1: want to make my money, save my money and move

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Speaker 1: on and do something else. It's nothing wrong with that.

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Speaker 1: And just because Andrew Luck was a household name, he's

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Speaker 1: a big time quarterback, he was a first pick overall,

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean that he wants to stay in the league forever,

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Speaker 1: you know, especially getting your brains beat out with a

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Speaker 1: garbage offensive line. Is Ben Roethlisberger still a good quarterback? No,

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Speaker 1: he's smart. You know he can make he can make

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Speaker 1: some throlls, but you can't depend on it. You don't

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Speaker 1: know what he's gonna give you every single week. I

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Speaker 1: love Big Ben, and Ben should be in a Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame. I played against band. He's an ultimate competitor,

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Speaker 1: but at this time the stage in his career, he's

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Speaker 1: a guy that's leading those young guys. He's more of

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Speaker 1: a mentor tour. But when I watch him play, he's

637
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: not very good. It's Brady better at anything now than

638
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: he was five years ago. I think he's just really

639
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: good at everything because, like you know, when you talk

640
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: to him, the rules have changed, which really helped the

641
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 1: offensive players. He has said, hey man, defensive players can't

642
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 1: do anything. The game's gotten easier. So the game has

643
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: gotten easier because you can't put your hands on the guys.

644
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: Anytime you throw it down the field, you bump a receiver,

645
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 1: the flags are coming out. So he just always tells,

646
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: hey man, I feel so bad for you guys because

647
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 1: you guys can't play defense anymore. How would you defend

648
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham? How would I defend him? I really don't

649
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: have to defend him if if this team's not throwing

650
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: him the ball. He's a talented young man, and I

651
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: talked to him when he was in Atlanta in the preseason.

652
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: Then the kid just wants to play football. He's not

653
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: into all this other crazy stuff that he was into before.

654
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: He just wants to go out there and play football.

655
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: And it's gonna take some time to implementing the offense.

656
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: But to me, like, how hard is it to throw

657
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: Ldale Beckham a screen? How hard is it throw him

658
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: a slap route? How hard is it to tell him

659
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 1: to run a deep dig at twelve yards and come inside? Like,

660
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 1: to me, all you have to do is give him

661
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: an opportunity, And these offensive coordinators are making it so

662
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: difficult with a guy with that level of talent. Just

663
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: throw him the damn ball. That's all you have to

664
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: do and give him a chance. But you look at

665
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: the Rams, they're going all in, they're trading people and

666
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: they don't understand like it comes down to chemistry. If

667
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: you have chemistry on your team, you're gonna have a

668
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: chance of winning. And also you look at Matthew Stafford.

669
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: What the heck is he doing? Is this the Matthew

670
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: Stafford that we saw in Detroit? Like what's going on

671
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: with him? He can't just drop back and throw the

672
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: ball up for grads? Like who does that? Well, normally,

673
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: we didn't focus on Matthew Stafford playing an entire game

674
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 1: because we didn't watch the lines. Now he's on display,

675
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: and now people are, you know, tuning in and watching

676
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 1: these throws. And now you're playing on a bigger stage.

677
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 1: The stakes are extremely high. Super Bowl or bust. And

678
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,720
Speaker 1: I think that's what I want to watch the second

679
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: half of the season, and if they make it to

680
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: the postseason. There's certain guys. When they get to the postseason,

681
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: they become a different player. Whether that's good or bad. Yeah, absolutely,

682
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: And a lot of pressures on Sean McVeigh because he

683
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 1: trading got rid of Jared Golf, And remember these are

684
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: the same dudes that gave Jared Golf over one hundred

685
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: million bucks. And then then you give up the house

686
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: and you're getting rid of players. You don't have a

687
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,760
Speaker 1: first round pick for the next three to four years.

688
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 1: They better win. And the way von Miller looked at

689
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 1: times the other week last week, he didn't look like,

690
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,439
Speaker 1: you know, the von Miller that I'm used to seeing.

691
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: So if I'm the Rams, I got a lot of

692
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 1: question marks. And it starts with Sean McVeigh, Rodney Harrison

693
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: NBC Football Night in America, and of course won two

694
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: Super Bowls with the Patriots, the defense being employed against

695
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 1: Kansas City. What exactly is different this year than previous

696
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: years of how teams are playing Patrick Mahomes. Well before

697
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: I guess teams when they first didn't really know Patrick

698
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 1: Mahomes that came out and tried to blitz them and

699
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 1: play man and man and all these different things that

700
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: most teams are just keeping two safeties deep and saying Patrick,

701
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: you know what, we know you want to throw the

702
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 1: ball down the field. We're gonna take away these these

703
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: big plays down the field and we're going to force

704
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: you to go up and down the field eight to

705
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: ten twelve play drives and see if you could stay

706
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: patient enough to do that. And before he said that

707
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: was something that he struggled with. But when I picked

708
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: them Kansas City against the Raiders, I just knew that

709
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: Andy Reid would make the necessary adjustments. This is an

710
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: offense that's been to the last two Super Bowls. Kansas

711
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 1: City is gonna be right there. I don't care how

712
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: they're looking. Talk to Chris Jones. That defense is going

713
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: to improve, but that offense is going to be right

714
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 1: there at the end of the season. Then where do

715
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: you stand with the taunting role with the NFL. I

716
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: don't like it. I get it. I get it. You know,

717
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: the rules the rule, and players have to respect the rule.

718
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I've always said, these are

719
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: the best two thousand players in the world, Like, come on, man,

720
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 1: Like these guys are getting paid millions of dollars. You know,

721
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,919
Speaker 1: let them celebrate, let them have fun. You know, that's

722
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: what the game is about. Other players know because they've

723
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: been on the receiving end as well. Like, we like

724
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: to celebrate as players, and when somebody else is celebrating,

725
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: you gotta let them celebrate, give them their props and

726
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 1: keep it moving. But I just think the NFL needs

727
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: to loosen up. Man. This is you know, this is

728
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 1: the NFL. This is we should be having fun. Man.

729
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: It shouldn't have to worry about no taunting. I didn't

730
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: have to because I mean, like I hit you to

731
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: hit you and get back up and say hey, I'm

732
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: coming back to you, and then let me just say this. Um,

733
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,959
Speaker 1: let me just say this, like like if somebody needs

734
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: a shot lesson, they need to come to you. I mean,

735
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: your jump shot is money. I remember us a Sam House,

736
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 1: old producer. We went out there for Thanksgiving and Rodney

737
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: was talking a lot, a lot of junk, and I said,

738
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: rod like, I'll go out, but you know, I'm gonna

739
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna crush you like I got. I was like

740
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 1: I was, I was mad at him. And we went outside,

741
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 1: turned on the spotlight and I just I think I

742
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: took a shot and it's in the air, and I

743
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: just kept walking to the house. I was so mad

744
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: that you made me go outside. I loved it. Though

745
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: I'm the Tom Brady of backyard basketball, man. Let me

746
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: tell you we had some great times. Man. I'm hey,

747
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: I'm missed being in the studio with you. I had

748
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: so much fun with you and Tony. I mean that

749
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: that's what made that so much fun is and you

750
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 1: talk about this with chemistry as a player and Tony

751
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: as a coach. When you have trust in each other,

752
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: it was just a lot of fun. And you guys

753
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,439
Speaker 1: came in and had the right approach. You said, treat

754
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: us like rookies. We have to learn TV And a

755
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: lot of times people come in and they go, oh,

756
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: I just put on a microphone and a suit and

757
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: tie and talk, and uh, I just didn't want to

758
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: sugarcoat and I wanted to make sure you guys learned

759
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: how to do it, and then you'd be teaching other

760
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: guys who came in. So yeah, you guys listen, no doubt, bro,

761
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: And we definitely appreciate it, and we would not have lasted.

762
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: I mean, this is year thirteen on that show, and

763
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: you know my role is a little different. I'm at

764
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: the stadium, but you know, to be able to do

765
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: that show with you as long as I've done it

766
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: and learned as much and absorb all of the knowledge

767
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: and wisdom that you've given me, I definitely appreciate it.

768
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: I know Coach feels the same way day. What is

769
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: it like though, to be on the field and want

770
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: to hit somebody, like do you get it? It's awesome,

771
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: just like your boy I knocked out? Remember it? M

772
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: McLean cheap shot? I was a cheap shot. Oh my god.

773
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 1: That was one of the great setups where we're like

774
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,959
Speaker 1: Mclevan's gonna act like a quarterback and then Rodney's gonna

775
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: act like he's gonna hit you, and Rodney pop mcleven

776
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: fifteen yard flag if I've ever seen in my life. No,

777
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: that was not That was clean. And you know what

778
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: and it was probably worth a twenty thousand dollars five

779
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: and I was fine with how much were you find

780
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:16,280
Speaker 1: in your career? A little over three hundred thousand after tacks?

781
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: What was the one that was absolutely worth it? Oh,

782
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: Jerry Rice? And you know what, it was amazing that

783
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: they would find me a game checking back then. I

784
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 1: think the game check was one hundred and maybe twenty

785
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. So it's some really good money, especially from

786
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: a kid coming from Market, Illinois. That's a lot of

787
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: money to give up. But Jerry Rice did that slant

788
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: and I got a chance to hit him. And I

789
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: tell you, Dan, I would have spent a half a

790
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: million bucks from that just to get a chance to

791
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: knock his freaking head off. As much as I love

792
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: Jerry Rice, it was awesome, But but why do you

793
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,919
Speaker 1: want to light up Jerry Rynes? Because he's the enemy.

794
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: He's the receiver all offensive players at the enemy. You

795
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: know that. And I love Jerry Rice. I mean I

796
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: got a chance as a young player to see him

797
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: practice and practice against the San Francisco forty nine ers

798
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: and his work ethic and discipline. But when it came

799
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: down to that game, I was not afraid that Jerry

800
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 1: Rice and I wanted him to know my name. Did

801
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,439
Speaker 1: you need to get fine? Should you have been fine

802
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: for the hit? No? I don't think so. I mean,

803
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: if anything, it should have been like a but you

804
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 1: know it then I had a reputation and you know,

805
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: people at the front office really you know, they had

806
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: it kind of had it out for me, and it

807
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: was all good. Like I said, you can't miss something

808
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: that you never had. But do you write a check

809
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: to the NFL back then or they take it just

810
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: out of your your like direct withdraw, Well, they just

811
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: you just don't collect a check. You look at your

812
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: bank account, see all those zeros and then you see

813
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: no zeros were you Were you married at the time?

814
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: Might No, I wasn't. I wasn't married. But you know

815
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: I had mom that I was taking care of and

816
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: stuff like that, and I told her, I was like, mom, listen,

817
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: I said, I got Hey, I got some money. I

818
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: got a little money, and I would have a lot

819
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 1: more money if I didn't keep hitting guys. Hey, But

820
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: you know what, then you know you can't you can't

821
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 1: slow a guy like me down. You know, obviously I

822
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: have to play smarter at times. But you always want

823
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: a young guy that's hungry, that's physical to kind of

824
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: do their thing. But you couldn't play like that now. Yeah,

825
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: and I probably would have lasted twenty years too. I mean,

826
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 1: think about it. The guys are getting paid a heck

827
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: of a lot more money. You can't hit. Just watch

828
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: when they play. They don't even tackle anymore. They tackle

829
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: the football. They just tackled the football and everybody tries

830
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: to go for the football and then the convoy just

831
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 1: goes five fifteen yards right into the end Zoll. It's crazy.

832
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: It's different the way they played football. Yeah, and the

833
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: role of the safety, like it feels like the role

834
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: that although Jamal Adams does play with the physicality there.

835
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: But you know the days are Ronnie a lot those

836
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 1: are long gone, aren't they. Yeah, definitely, because like I

837
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: see referees or officials calling flags and it's not even

838
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: a legal hit, but it's because of the severity of

839
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: a hit, how hard someone hit. Now, you can hit

840
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: the guy the same way, but if you kind of

841
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: just hit him and lay him down, it won't be

842
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 1: a flag. But if you just absolutely run through them,

843
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: they're throwing flags from everywhere and It's like it has

844
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: to be an egregious hit. It can't be just because

845
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 1: it's a very physical hit. Gere thrown flags. Who was

846
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 1: that running back when he came through. It's like, this

847
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 1: is gonna hurt Brandon Jacobs Jamal Lewis from the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 1: I was a young young player with Barry Sanders. He

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Speaker 1: joked me one time at the gold line, stuck his

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Speaker 1: head down, ran me over on Monday night football and

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Speaker 1: ran me over. And that was my introduction to the league.

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Speaker 1: And after that day, I said, I'm gonna do more squats.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do I'm gonna get my legs strong because

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Speaker 1: he embarrassed me as a young player. Barry embarrassed a

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Speaker 1: lot of people. Yes he did, but he was fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Hey tell everybody I said a low Always great to

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Speaker 1: talk to you, Hope families, great, buddy, you too, buddy.

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Speaker 1: Good to see you. Thank you. Thanks for listening to

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports One, Nick, what do you think is Steph

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Speaker 1: Curry this season? Curry in all seriousness been sensational. I

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Speaker 1: mean he's been sensational. I've got a let me ask

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Speaker 1: you a question, Dan, yea, we're going into this year.

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Speaker 1: If someone would ask you all time great, all time pyramid,

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Speaker 1: who's ahead Stepper KD? Who do you have hire? I

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Speaker 1: would take Steph? Oh, so you would have already had

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Speaker 1: step higher because I think most people, even though step

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Speaker 1: has one more ring and one more league MVP, I think,

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Speaker 1: particularly after the playoffs last year, would have said k

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Speaker 1: D's a tick above. If the Warriors win the title

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00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 1: this year, though, you have to like the Steph KD debate,

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00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 1: at least for the time being, stops being a debate.

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Speaker 1: Step would have double the MVPs and double the rings.

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00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:34,439
Speaker 1: All of that, and you start to reevaluate, like where

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00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: is Steph historically? I mean, I think he's right now

883
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: knocking on the door of the top fifteen all time.

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Speaker 1: If they win the title this year. He probably also

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00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: would win the League MVP this year. If they win

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00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: sixty plus games, he starts kicking that door in and

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Speaker 1: moving past guys like a team, past guys like Doctor J,

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Speaker 1: like obviously past Durant. I gets a really special thing

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Speaker 1: because I thought the Warriors were done winning titles, and

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Speaker 1: now with the doors back open for them. I asked

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Speaker 1: Duwayne Wade about that yesterday and he said he would

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Speaker 1: take Steph because he changed the game. And I mean,

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Speaker 1: think about the most influential people who've ever played this game,

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Speaker 1: and steps on the short list of most influential players

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Speaker 1: in there, there's no doubt about that. As far as

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Speaker 1: influence he is, I want to say top five all time,

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Speaker 1: but that does you know, he's far more influential than

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Speaker 1: Tim Duncan, but Tim Duncan had the better career. But

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Speaker 1: if they win the title this year, Steph starts really

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Speaker 1: approaching the hollowed, hollowed ground. He's top ten though Nick

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Speaker 1: if I said, at the end of their career, is

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Speaker 1: Katie or Steph more likely to go into the top ten?

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Speaker 1: So I would have, honestly, and I don't want to

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Speaker 1: be too reactionary. A month ago, I would have said

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Speaker 1: k D because I thought Steph as Steph was had

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Speaker 1: an MVP level season last year, Dan and the Warriors

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Speaker 1: missed the playoffs, so I'm like, okay, so STEP's not

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Speaker 1: gonna play in the finals again. But if they if

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Speaker 1: they make the finals this year, if they win the title,

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Speaker 1: then then to me it'd be Steph. If if this

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Speaker 1: is more about schedule and maybe when Clay comes back,

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Speaker 1: he's not the guy we think he's gonna be and

913
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Speaker 1: the Warriors are a second round exit KD because you

914
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Speaker 1: know he's bigger. I think he don't. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you can say he scores more effortlessly, but it

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Speaker 1: does feel like he can do a little more. But again,

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Speaker 1: like those are I mean you're a basketball storian like me,

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Speaker 1: so that to me, take there's four guys that are

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Speaker 1: almost like, you know, the older older generation, Russell, Wilt,

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Speaker 1: Oscar and West. They've got to be included, but they

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Speaker 1: almost have to be included separately, you know, like a

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Speaker 1: veterans committee. And then people can argue about the order,

923
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Speaker 1: but I I don't think many people would argue about this.

924
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Speaker 1: Next nine lebron Kareem, Michael Magic, Duncan, Kobe Bird a

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Speaker 1: team shack. So now we're at nine plus the four,

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Speaker 1: there's thirteen. I would have had Doctor Jay and Moses

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Speaker 1: rounding out my top fifteen with Stephan kd ready to

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Speaker 1: knock one of them out. But how high can either

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Speaker 1: one of them climb? Can they pass Bird? Can they

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Speaker 1: you know? I think they both can pass Doctor j

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Speaker 1: and Moses. But so there's you know, at some point

932
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Speaker 1: there is there a ceiling. I don't know, like it's

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Speaker 1: it's a hard This is what people do when the

934
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Speaker 1: top seventy five list comes out. They're like, this guy's

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Speaker 1: a top twenty guy all time. It's like, no, he's not,

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Speaker 1: Like there's you gotta list the names and so it's

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Speaker 1: just a but I'm starting to reconsider how high step

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Speaker 1: can climb. I liked Golden State last year to go

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Speaker 1: to the NBA Finals, and I certainly like them this year.

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Speaker 1: They have youth, They're gonna get Clay back, And it

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Speaker 1: just feels like the West is a little bit vulnerable

942
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Speaker 1: because I don't know what to expect out of the Lakers.

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Speaker 1: You know, can Phoenix do it again? And what do

944
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Speaker 1: they learn last year? Denver? Can you count on them

945
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Speaker 1: to be consistent enough to play at a high level. Utah,

946
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Speaker 1: are they going to be in there as well? UTAs out,

947
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Speaker 1: Utah never gets to be talked to her as a

948
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Speaker 1: playoff team again, they're out. And as I understand that,

949
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Speaker 1: all the and I'm an analytics guy, all the analytics

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Speaker 1: folks have explained to me that Nicola Yokich is maybe

951
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Speaker 1: the greatest player in the history of the league, which

952
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: really fascinating because none of them believe that Nuggets are

953
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: gonna make the finals. The NBA's pretty simple. You have

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Speaker 1: the best player in the league, You're probably gonna win

955
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 1: the championship. Nobody thinks Nuggets can win the championship. So

956
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 1: miss me with this, Yokich is better than Jani's mess.

957
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 1: I don't care what the numbers say. I watched the games,

958
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,919
Speaker 1: but yes, the West is open. And here you said

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00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 1: they have youth. Here's anything the Warriors have going for him.

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00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 1: So they're getting clayback. That'll be an infusion. No matter

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00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,879
Speaker 1: what form he's in, he'll help. Yeah. They also though

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00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: they're getting nothing right, Wiseman's not playing yet and Cominga

963
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: and Moody are so young, like eighteen and nineteen when

964
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:14,280
Speaker 1: you draft him. If they want to package Wiseman cominga Moody,

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Speaker 1: you get an All Star like Beal's not going to

966
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Speaker 1: be available now because the Warriors. I'm sorry the Wizards

967
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: are too good. But whatever disgruntled all star X that

968
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Speaker 1: you want but wouldn't go after Buddy Healed? I mean

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Speaker 1: I can't get Beal? What about Buddy Healed? Well, the

970
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,720
Speaker 1: question there is my I know everyone killed the Lakers

971
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Speaker 1: for not getting Buddy Healed, and I like Buddy a lot,

972
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: but he's also damn near thirty. We don't think of that.

973
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: He was old when he came out of college and

974
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: not damn near thirty these late twenties, and it's always

975
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Speaker 1: suffer for me, like a guy. People, So Ben Simmons

976
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 1: like Ben Simmons can't play in the playoffs, but he's

977
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Speaker 1: been in the playoffs, like maybe Buddy can't either, Like

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00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: Buddy's the sixth man on the Kings. Like I like

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Speaker 1: Buddy a lot, but I I liked Ben Simmons to

980
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 1: the Warriors. You don't need more shooting once you get

981
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 1: draymonde Clay back. But don't I have to give up

982
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: Draymond to make Ben work with Golden state. I don't

983
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: know that's what everybody says. But when the Warriors won

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00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 1: seventy three games, Festus is Zeli and Maurice Spates were

985
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,399
Speaker 1: on the court with Draymond, Like I remember it because

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Speaker 1: Lebron was dot in threes over poor Festus's eye in

987
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 1: Game seven, Like yeah, Bestus, I mean Boge and the

988
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 1: Bogan obviously was a good player, but Bogan and Draymond

989
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: played together. So like the idea that you couldn't have

990
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 1: Draymond on the court with another non shooter. Now, Draymond

991
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: backed inn was a better shooter than he is now,

992
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: so that's that's part of it. But whoever the person is.

993
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: My point is if the Warriors want, they can go

994
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 1: get another piece because they're not getting anything from those

995
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 1: young guys and they're still awesome. We're talking to Nick

996
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: Wright first Thing's first co host on Fox Sports one.

997
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: How patient are you going to be with the Well,

998
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 1: here's the deal. So there's the Russ angle and then

999
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: there's a Lebron party. The Russ angle is first three

1000
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:08,800
Speaker 1: months in Houston, he was terrible and then he was

1001
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: excellent end of the season. Same exact thing happened with

1002
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 1: Washington so I will be patient with that and Russ.

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00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: Here's a fun thing to look at. The best center

1004
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: Russ has ever played with, the best big Russ has

1005
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: ever played with, young Steven Adams. He's never played with

1006
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: a quality offensive center or offensive big. So it's gonna

1007
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 1: take time for him and Anthony Davis. But the back

1008
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 1: of the matter for the Lakers is this. If Lebron's

1009
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:38,240
Speaker 1: not still able to be a top three, at a minimum,

1010
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 1: top three player in the league when the playoffs roll

1011
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: around for the entirety the players, the Lakers is screwed.

1012
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: I think he's still can be. I think he's got

1013
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 1: one more of those runs in it. If if he is,

1014
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: then again, who are we taking in the West over?

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00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: A fully functional hand on the joystick? Lebron plus a

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Speaker 1: D and I believe Lebron is a problems will make

1017
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 1: it work with Russ. But the first thing they gotta

1018
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 1: do is just get rid of their centers. You can't

1019
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: play Ross and a center. You might actually play Russ

1020
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: at center. That's kind of what the Rockets didn't It

1021
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 1: worked like a D. You don't want to play center, fine,

1022
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 1: you can be the power forward. Russe will be the

1023
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 1: center and then you can spread the floor and have

1024
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 1: more shooting there. I never understood a d not wanting

1025
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 1: to play center because it feels like you have a

1026
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 1: better chance of making the All NBA team as a center,

1027
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 1: because Rudy Gobert makes it every single year that you know,

1028
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:35,879
Speaker 1: these bonuses come with being first, second, third team. I'd

1029
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 1: want to be a center. Just list me as a

1030
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: center who cares. Yeah, I listen, ads awesome, he you know,

1031
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: he's what's the word delicate? Delicate I think is the

1032
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 1: white and nice way to put it. I just think

1033
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 1: he is a polite soft I didn't say soft Dan.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that about a fellow Clutch client. I'd

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Speaker 1: be the I just think he's not as big of

1036
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 1: a fan as the contact and the you know, and

1037
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: he is a guy who when he gets dinged, it

1038
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,879
Speaker 1: does appear he's been shot, but luckily he recovers from

1039
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 1: that quickly. Brittle and so yeah, brittle? Did you call

1040
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 1: him Britton? I like delicate. I'm gonna stick with us, Hey,

1041
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: can I I got another question? Okay, were you shocked

1042
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 1: that there were MDP chants for someone not on the

1043
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:37,240
Speaker 1: nets at Barclay's last night? Like that doesn't happen. Well,

1044
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 1: that's not really a home advantage. That's not a home

1045
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: fan base. I mean, it's a recent fan base. I

1046
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: mean it's you know, that's why if they won the title,

1047
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 1: they'd get a nice little parade. If the Knicks win

1048
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: a first round series, you know, guys, people are out

1049
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 1: of their mind. Guys are out of the topless in

1050
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: the street. It's there. I mean, come on, that's absolutely right.

1051
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 1: Nobody cares um A couple of other things. I know

1052
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:10,839
Speaker 1: that the Chiefs are back, according to people. I didn't

1053
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 1: know they left, but they're back. And I know you're

1054
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: a big Kansas City Chiefs fan. So would you give

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Speaker 1: your logic of are the Chiefs on the short list

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Speaker 1: of teams to beat still in the NFL five? Let

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Speaker 1: me put it like this, I think they're the team

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Speaker 1: to beat in the AFC. The five best teams might

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Speaker 1: all be in the NFC. They got to beat each other,

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Speaker 1: Like right now, if you were able to draft your

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00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: playoff opponents, like if that the one seam got to

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Speaker 1: pickets opponents. Who wouldn't the Chiefs to be everyone's last pick?

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Speaker 1: They aren't. They aren't they still the team in the

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Speaker 1: AFC nobody wants to face. If Dan Henry was playing,

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Speaker 1: Tennessee would be that team that I would not want

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Speaker 1: to play, sure, but he's not, like that's he's not yea,

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Speaker 1: and the Bills have been that Jags loss looms large

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Speaker 1: to me for the Bills, and the Bills to me

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Speaker 1: are the other dangerous team when everything's rolling. But the

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Speaker 1: AFC screwed up Man for the first five weeks, the

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00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: Chiefs had historically bad defense. For the next three weeks,

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Speaker 1: Mahomes had the first slump of his career, and now

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Speaker 1: all of Usden we sit there and it's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: they have the second most wins in the conference. Like

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00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: if you were ever going to create separation would have

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00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 1: been this year, and the AFC didn't take advantage. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're right about you don't want to face them when

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Speaker 1: he gets into the postseason. You know, Buffalo is still

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Speaker 1: not quite sure like the AFC right now, just not

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Speaker 1: sure with anybody. Neither has done everything you want a

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00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 1: great team to do. We just don't recognize them as

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00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 1: being great. Yeah, it's yeah, because here's the thing, because

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00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 1: and I know, the football's complicated, and it's all three

1084
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Speaker 1: phases and all this, and then at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day, before you bet your hard earned money on

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00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: a team to win a Super Bowl, You're like, wait,

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00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 1: Ryan Dan Hills their quarterback. Nah, I'm gonna have to ask.

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Speaker 1: So like, no, he's the highest rated passer on third

1089
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Speaker 1: downs less He's like, yeah, I'm not gonna do that. Hey, uh,

1090
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Speaker 1: you're all in on crypto dot com instead of Staples,

1091
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 1: you're gonna refer to I don't care, man, I listen.

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00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 1: I had an opportunity to be Dan Patrick rich if

1093
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: I would have listened to all my poker player friends

1094
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 1: five years ago and bought bitcoin in the theorem, and

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00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 1: instead I didn't. And so now I'm just hoping at

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00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 1: all tanks because all my friends I gamble with are

1097
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 1: just stupid rich. And I'm still coming on these doing this.

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00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 1: So you send me free sweatshirts, So I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I'm anti I. It's just total bitterness and anger

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Speaker 1: these gotten rich. What's arrowhead called? Now, geh a Field,

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what the hell that is. I

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00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 1: don't know what's going. Yeah, that's that's great. I don't

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Speaker 1: know anybody who calls it that. It feels like people

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01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 1: are still gonna call Staples. Staples. Yeah, I heard what

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01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 1: you guys were saying about the Winston Cup before. Yeah,

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01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 1: so I grew up. My whole childhood was the Winston Cup,

1107
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 1: and I had no idea it was about the cigarettes.

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01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 1: I thought it was named after some famous NASCAR dude

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01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: named Winston. Like when they changed it, I was so confused.

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Speaker 1: I swear to god, I thought that I didn't even

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01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 1: know and you thought that there was a guy named

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01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 1: Nextel like that. That's where I figured it out. I

1113
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, it's branding. Yeah. By the way, speaking

1114
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Speaker 1: of branding, is your guys show branding these days trying

1115
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 1: to just make anyone under thirty not understand what you're

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Speaker 1: talking about, because I think right before I came on,

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01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 1: you were like, hey, fun fact about Wilford Brimley and Cocoon. Ye,

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01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 1: And I'm thirty seven and I've never seen cocoon. Like,

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01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 1: what's the median age of people that are like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I can picture Wilford Brimley and Cocoon in my head

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Speaker 1: forty six. But it might make you go, hmm, I

1122
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 1: wonder what Wilford Brimley looked like at age fifty. Dan

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01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 1: brought it up and he is a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 1: I should listen to what Dan has to say. Then

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Speaker 1: they google when they go, oh my god, boy, that's

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Speaker 1: a brilliant now maybe or maybe they maybe they pull

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Speaker 1: out their phone phones and say, I can't find Wilford

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Speaker 1: Brimley on TikTok. I don't know what the hell Dan's talking. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe that. Maybe they just go, you know what I'm gonna.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna wait for Colin to come on or Jim

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01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 1: Rome to come on, and then I'll listen to those programs.

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Speaker 1: See oh wow, wow, we're going. I wouldn't have said that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I would have thought it, but

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't have said that to be rude on your show.

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Speaker 1: That's okay, that's okay. Let me be rude to me

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Speaker 1: before you're rude to me. Yeah, it's a good idea.

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Speaker 1: Still waiting for that fish and invite by. Hey, yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's go to let's go to a game. Let's go

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01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 1: to a Brooklyn Nets game. Plenty of plenty of seven

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Speaker 1: dollars for seven dollars, I can get in and play

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Speaker 1: for twelve. That's what's great. I'm Joe harris Man. They

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Speaker 1: could have used you last night. Tell you that much, buddy. Hey,

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Speaker 1: thank you thanks for joining us. We appreciate it absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I'll see you soon.