1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news on a Friday after 2 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: an historic week. It is single best idea. Too many 3 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: voices to pick from today. Thank you particularly to Dartmouth College. 4 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: They have Douglas Erwin with us the other day and 5 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: David Blancheflow this morning. Was an honor, but so many 6 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: others have Claudias sam with us in Neil Dudda on 7 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: the Jobs Day, all the work the team has done, 8 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: particularly to Bloomberg people at Bloomberg News in Bloomberg Intelligence 9 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: weighing in on this historic moment. Let us start with 10 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: Neil Dudda after the jobs report, Neil Duddy here in 11 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: the state of the consumer in what was fascinating looking 12 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: at the upper decile, upper quintile of American prosperity when 13 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: in doubt, save. 14 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: What you're gonna SAE. Basically the high end consumer, which 15 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 2: has been the core source of support for consumer spending 16 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: over the last year, they are going to jack up 17 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 2: their savings rate as a result of this. I mean 18 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 2: you're in a situation now where stock prices are going down. Right. 19 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 2: The elevated level of stock prices is one reason why 20 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 2: net worth was rising relative to income last year, which 21 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 2: is why consumer spending was so strong, because people drew 22 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: down their savings As a result, you have the opposite 23 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: situation now, So what do you think is going to 24 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: happen with the savings rate? It's going to go up. 25 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 2: As a baseline, consumer spending wasn't going to be really 26 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 2: much stronger than one and a half percent right now, 27 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 2: because that's where real income growth has kind of been 28 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 2: tracking net of transfers. So we've already seen quite sluggish income. 29 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 2: So even a stable savings rate gets you that if 30 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,559 Speaker 2: the savings rates going up, you're going to have something 31 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: weaker than that. So you can see already how it's 32 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 2: very challenging to get to a anything better than Really 33 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 2: the best I can come up with is like below 34 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 2: potential growth environment. 35 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: Still Neil Dudda there, he was absolutely brilliant on the 36 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: labor dynamic. He made very clear that he's more interested 37 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: in the revisions back one month, back two months than 38 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 1: the actual data point today. I just noticed it's a 39 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: blur here in our world headquarters where you see headlines 40 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: out of all different sources of media. To see Canada 41 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: lose twenty two thousand jobs today is really something we 42 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: didn't talk about that live on the program, we had 43 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: the pleasure of speaking with Kate Moore of City Group, 44 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: She's in charge of City Group Wealth Management, and coming 45 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: up with a kogent tone on the present crisis the 46 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: view forward. Kate Moore of City Well, here's why. 47 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 3: I don't want to hear them say, Paul. I don't 48 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 3: want them to say we're pulling guidance all together because 49 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 3: we have no visibility. I want them to at least 50 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 3: present scenario analysis and in some ways that they may 51 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 3: be able to buffer the challenges overcoming months and quarters. 52 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 3: This scenario where companies coal guidance would be so sentiment negative, 53 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 3: I think we see actually a big leg down in 54 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 3: that scenario. And I'm going to be watching very very 55 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 3: closely what companies talk about not just for the next 56 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 3: three months, but for the balance of the year. 57 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 4: You know, whatever they talk about in terms of their 58 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 4: first three months of performance, yes, that's going to be important, 59 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 4: but it's really going to be the earnings revisions that 60 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 4: come out of the supporting season that are going to 61 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 4: be critical for risk. 62 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: Kate marsh City there and yesterday at the Game Forum 63 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: of Quinnipiac College, sixteen hundred kids Matt Lazetti said exactly 64 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: the same thing from Deutsche Bank that you just heard 65 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: from Kate Moore, This idea that within an economy things 66 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: can drift away. 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