WEBVTT - New Year, New Q&A Episode 0:00:00.960 --> 0:00:02.120 On the Bechdel Cast. 0:00:02.240 --> 0:00:05.720 The questions asked if movies have women and them, are 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:08.399 all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands or do they 0:00:08.440 --> 0:00:13.680 have individualism? It's the patriarchy, zeph and best start changing 0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:15.240 it with the Bechdel Cast. 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:19.920 Happy New Year, listeners of the Bechdel Cast. 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:24.759 It's me Caitlin, it's me Jamie, and we are entering, 0:00:25.200 --> 0:00:29.120 if you can believe it, the tenth year of the 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:33.519 Bechdel Cast. And as you can tell, the show started 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:39.560 in November twenty sixteen. Coincidence but telling. And yeah, things 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:45.360 are better for women than ever. Yeah, gender issues have 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:47.240 been resolved. 0:00:47.520 --> 0:00:48.600 Look, we solved them. 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:50.320 Look we're here to do a Q and A episode. 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:52.400 I'm just sorry we didn't fix it. 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:53.080 We didn't fix it. 0:00:53.640 --> 0:00:56.040 We're doing our best bet year. Yeah. Yeah, we're just 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:59.720 two people. So we have done this a number of 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:01.680 times over the years. We haven't done it in at 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:04.840 least three years, is that right? The last time we 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:07.160 did it. It's been a while in which we sort 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:13.360 of put the call out for questions to our Matreon community, 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:17.800 if you're not aware, hot Plug. For many years now, 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:21.080 we've had a Patreon aka Matreon where for five dollars 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:24.640 a month, you can get two bonus episodes of the podcast, 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:28.000 as well as access to our well over two hundred 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:32.360 episodes of back catalog that goes back many, many years. 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:36.480 And so we asked the Matreon community for questions around 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:38.640 the show as we head into our tenth year. Lots 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:43.920 of changes, lots to reflect on, and as is common 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:47.039 in the incredible Matron community, they showed up, and they 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:48.080 showed up in a big way. 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:52.600 Yes, we received many, many questions. Unfortunately we won't have 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:57.000 time to get to all of them, but we've selected 0:01:57.480 --> 0:02:02.200 a few questions that we will answer on this little 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:07.320 Q and A episode and I'm excited to dive in. 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:13.160 But yeah, it's uh, it's been eighty four years, yeah, 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:16.040 in the podcast, and there's a lot to reflect on. 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:19.919 So I mean I think, yeah, maybe in dog years. No, 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:22.880 it's been seventy dog years. Oh god, let's not think 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:23.240 about that. 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:27.760 Yeah, we don't have to. But why don't we start 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:30.960 with a question from Sophia. Okay, this is when we 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:33.680 I believe have answered before. 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:35.320 But not for a while. I feel like, not for 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:37.560 a while, is it it? Yeah? I'd like to hear 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:41.400 our respective versions of this story. All eighty four years later. 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:44.840 Right, So the question is, how did you guys meet. 0:02:44.960 --> 0:02:46.000 Wow, meet cute. 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:50.359 We had to meet cute. I don't remember a ton 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:52.120 of the details. I know that it was at a 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:58.360 comedy show in Boston, probably like thirteen or more years ago. 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:02.560 Wow, maybe, yeah, I guess, like because I yeah, I'm 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:06.200 guessing like twenty between twenty twelve and twenty fourteen would 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:07.919 have been when this was happening. Yeah. 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:12.200 Yes, And we were at a stand up show and 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:15.600 I met you and I thought you were super funny. 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:18.760 And then I saw you at various other shows, either 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:21.600 stand up or sketch, and I was like, Wow, Jamie's 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:24.280 so funny. I want to be her friend. I felt 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:26.760 the same. And then we moved to LA within a 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:30.680 year of each other. Then years past, and then we 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:33.280 and then we didn't become friends really, or at least 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:36.800 we didn't hang out until we were both living in 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:40.240 LA a few years later. Then I asked if you 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:43.520 wanted to do a podcast with me? Yeah, and arrested. 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:48.240 History this very podcast. I remember seeing you, I don't 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:51.400 remember specifically when we met. I remember doing shows together, 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:55.160 but I remember I don't know why. My specific memory 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:58.880 of you when before we were friends. Was because I 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:02.760 used to work at the box office of now defunct 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:09.400 comedy theater Improv Boston in Cambridge, Massachusetts, and I have 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:12.240 a strong memory of like, I think you were going 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:14.040 into a show, you were hanging out in the lobby 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:16.800 with people, and I was working at the box office, 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:19.400 and I was like, Wow, she's cool, and that was 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:21.040 the whole that's that's the whole story. 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:23.960 And you were so true to think that. 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:26.920 I was right. I was, My instincts were spot on. 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:32.480 And then years passed in but it was nice. I mean, 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:34.600 I really feel like, I mean, in the now that 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:37.080 we've both been in LA for over a decade, it 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:41.560 like really was a life changing link up, truly. 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:45.479 Life altering in the best possible way. Yes, yeah, okay. 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:50.919 Next question from Kira asks how would you describe the 0:04:50.960 --> 0:04:55.360 Bechdel Casts different eras since it started. This could pertain 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:59.320 to the show's overall vibe or what it meant to 0:04:59.360 --> 0:04:59.960 you in the moment. 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:04.760 I love a Taylor Swiftian question. I mean, I guess 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:09.120 for me, I feel like the show has both grown 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:14.720 with the times. I feel like, especially because we talk 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:17.560 about from time to time, like older episodes that the 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:20.400 Bechdel Cast are like embarrassing, we don't like them, and 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:25.480 that can be very true, I think objectively, if I 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:27.760 was listening to the show and it was not us, 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:31.760 I do feel like a lot of our growth is 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:35.520 reflective of ourselves as individuals and you know, putting in 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:37.720 the work and all that stuff, and also so much 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:41.159 of what we've learned from our guests over the years. 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:44.080 But I think it also is kind of reflective of 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:46.440 the times of like part of why listening to a 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:49.600 twenty eighteen Bechdel Cast episode doesn't feel great is because 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:52.760 it's a past version of ourselves that knew less than 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:53.280 we do now. 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:58.720 Absolutely, Yeah, I was thinking about it in terms of like, 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:01.200 like first we were in our hobby era where we 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:03.600 were just doing the show as a hobby. 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:07.080 Actively losing money. We were Yeah, I think I remember 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:10.600 when we started the show, we each paid Is this right? 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:12.440 We were each paying like one hundred and twenty five 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:17.080 dollars a month to host this show and pay Aristotle 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:20.440 for like stuff because we had free so lower drop 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:24.200 listeners we had and correct me if I'm aroun Kaitlyn, 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:27.800 we had free recording space at your employer which is 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:28.840 now condos. 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:33.360 Yes, the Nerdest Showroom is where I was the program director. 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:35.800 That was a comedy venue and then also in that 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:38.560 space was a podcast studio. 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:41.719 Upstairs, which was really cool. I mean I missed that 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:42.360 space a lot. 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:45.599 Oh rip Nerds. So many good memories. 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:49.360 But luckily the community has endured and we're all still 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:51.400 even though I wasn't actually, but I felt like I 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:53.479 was there anyways, you were a part of the community. 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:58.000 I was in the building frequently, but that was when 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:01.280 Aristotle Acevedo was but he was kind of doing it. 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:04.560 He was helping produce the show, and he was also 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:08.240 our our engineering sound engineer. Yeah, yeah, for years, and 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:12.000 so we were working with him. And also at the 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:14.520 time this feels so ancient history now, we were like 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:19.880 paying to host the podcast on Libson. Do you remember that, Yeah, 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:22.040 because we had to just pay a monthly fee or 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:25.880 something and a website fee and like just random small 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:29.000 hosting fees we had to pay like during the first year. 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:33.840 Yeah, And after that we started up our Patreon aka Matreon. 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:35.480 That was like a full year later though. That was 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:36.880 late twenty seventeen. 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:40.200 For sure, and then it was maybe a year ish, 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:42.360 maybe a little less than a year after that that 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:46.000 we got picked up by a network how stuff works, 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:51.320 so that I think transitioned us into our next era almost. 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:54.320 Yeah, I guess, yeah, I guess from like indie podcast 0:07:54.880 --> 0:08:00.720 to network show, right, which is an interesting like Again, 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:03.960 it's so particular because I guess I was thinking about 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:06.800 it in our like in our personal place with like 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:10.720 progressive issues and feminism, which has also very aligned with 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:13.320 you know, when you're listening to a back to the 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:16.400 Cast episode, please show us grace and look at the 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:20.520 date it was released. Yeah, because we have taken many 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:23.880 l's over the years and rightfully so, and you know, 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:26.600 and we appreciate your patients with us and all that. 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:29.120 And then and then also like I guess I wasn't 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:32.120 even thinking of it, like literally the growth in the 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:35.960 podcast industry, because I remember, for a while, I want 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:40.000 to say, until like twenty eighteen ninety, the first couple 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:43.560 of years we had the podcast, I was having the 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:45.720 time of my life. I was always having so much fun. 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:47.520 We were meeting all these really cool people. 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:49.640 You were drinking a lot of Mike's hard lemonade at 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:51.280 the time. That was its own era. 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:54.080 Well, I was the Mike's hard Lemonade era was like 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:59.240 Jamie was twenty four and going through something, but also like, 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:02.199 did you ever feel like I was like kind of 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:04.680 like I felt a little ashamed to be like I 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:07.280 have a podcast, and everyone was like, uh, okay, what 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:09.760 the fuck is that? Like, it's just so weird to 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:11.319 think about, because I think in the early years of 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:13.760 our podcast, it was just not a mainstream thing. It 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:16.920 was still very niche I mean the fact that our show, 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:19.840 to my knowledge, was really the only show of its 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:25.040 kind and it was two white women talking about movies 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:29.800 like that didn't exist. That's absurd. I don't know, it's 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:30.920 just like so weird to think about. 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:35.160 Yeah, I guess because so many people I knew, and 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:38.000 by that I mean so many comedians I knew had 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:42.800 a podcast. I was like, yeah, podcasts are huge right now, 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:44.480 but you know, you're right, Like it. 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:47.440 Wasn't like the comedy community I was in at the time, 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:50.760 Like I have a specific memory, and obviously they shall 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:53.840 remain nameless, and I certainly am the only person in 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:56.240 this conversation that remembers us. But I felt it like 0:09:57.400 --> 0:09:59.960 I was talking about having a podcast. It was like 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:02.600 I enjoy podcasting, but like my mom doesn't know what 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:05.520 it is, and like I feel like I don't know, 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:07.719 Like I love our listeners, but I don't really know 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:10.000 who's listening, and like I don't know how to explain 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:13.199 the job. And they said to me, well, having a podcast, 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:19.360 isn't that embarrassing, And it was like, oh, which is 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:22.360 first of all untrue. Having a podcast is embarrassing, And 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:26.800 second of all, that same person two years later had 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:29.360 one of the most boring podcasts I've ever heard that 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:32.959 last of last the year, so you know, it's just weird. 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:35.720 And then with the network stuff, yeah, like I guess 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:40.280 we are on iHeart podcast now, But it was because 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:44.640 a much smaller network we originally signed with got consumed 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:47.560 by a larger network, and that's happened. We've seen that 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:52.800 happen many, many many times to like our peers of like, god, 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:56.880 I mean, this is like probably boring if you don't 0:10:56.880 --> 0:11:01.200 care about the inside podcast stuff. But like, but how 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:03.839 like Earwolf was like this independent network that was sold 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:07.679 to Sirius XM, and like there were so many examples 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:12.120 of that, and our show was sort of you know, 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:17.080 taken on that journey, taken taken on that journey. 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:19.440 Shout out to the movie taken question Mark, just kidding 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:19.680 take it. 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:22.440 Yes, we're going to a YouTube concert in Paris. And 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:28.680 then something wild happened. Forgot we signed with House Stuff Works. 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:32.360 I forgot that's what it was. Yeah, but yeah, and 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:35.880 then like, I feel like the pandemic era was its 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:39.319 own thing too, where we went from recording every single 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:45.440 episode in a studio to having to pretty quickly, you know, adjust, 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:48.360 And I think it was a pretty easy transition for us. 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:52.200 But you know, we were recording from home and that 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:56.559 made like editing a little different, and recording was obviously different. 0:11:56.840 --> 0:12:00.280 But then it also opened up doors to remote. 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:03.840 Yes that were international, and yeah, like which is why 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:08.200 I mean, not all podcasts have not all podcasts have 0:12:08.640 --> 0:12:10.480 done I mean like every I don't know, like the 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:14.480 industry is so and podcasts can be anything now, but 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:17.199 you know a lot of podcasts have returned to recording 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:21.080 in person. We've stayed remote in part because it's like 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:24.840 cool to have international guests. It's cool to have guests 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:27.240 that don't live in the exact same city. And I 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:31.880 feel like it's enabled us to have like a wider 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:35.160 range of perspectives because we love la but you know 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:40.360 that really kind of limits the types of perspectives that 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:44.760 we're getting and yeah, we're super We're super lucky. It's yeah, 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:49.680 that was another big shift, and I think like going 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:51.800 back to the earlier days, like I think there was 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:54.679 I don't know, I feel like it was maybe two 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:57.760 years around the time we switched to a network that 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:00.680 we were not a research for. We were like primarily 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:03.200 a comedy podcast to start. We were not doing a 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:05.840 ton of research. It was a lot of off the 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:09.160 top of the head kind of stuff. And you know, 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:12.079 it's like we're still not we're not writing a dissertation 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:15.000 for every episode, and we do occasionally get things wrong, 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:17.440 and you know, we're not saying that the research is 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:22.480 above reproach, but research being a priority in the show 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:26.439 was not an original part. And also do you remember 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:30.840 I sometimes forget this how part of the original thing 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:34.880 was that like Caitlin's seen a lot of movies, Jamie's said, 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:39.480 no movies, like but that kind of went away pretty early. 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:42.400 We were like playing games. 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:45.040 A if you get yeah, I mean, I think that 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:50.720 made sense for our initial launch almost as a as 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:52.520 a premise almost because like for. 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:55.360 Me, podcasts were more like that too than like with 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:56.920 like segments, you know. 0:13:57.320 --> 0:14:00.360 Segments and then yeah, and also the we're coming at 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:02.920 it from different perspectives, like I've seen a bunch of movies, 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:05.439 you hadn't seen that many. I mean that was kind 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:07.480 of part of the conceit of the show for me, 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:10.240 where I was like, I grew up with so many 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:15.520 movies that I know are full of harmful, reductive tropes 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:18.880 and are sexist and racists and all this stuff, and 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:21.400 I wanted this podcast as a way to sort of 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:24.880 like reconcile that, yeah, and be like, Okay, well is 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:27.000 it okay if I still like these movies, if I'm 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:31.800 acknowledging why they're maybe not so great and so, which 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:32.160 is like. 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:34.560 I think a lot of podcasts like I mean, not 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:36.720 that we like invented that, but I think it is 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:40.280 like a dynamic that to this day is like used. 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:43.240 I think it just I didn't mind it, but just 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:45.560 after the show ran for a couple of years, I 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:48.320 could no longer say I hadn't seen many movies. I 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:51.920 had seen many movies, and so I mean it never 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:53.920 like we never decided for it to go aw. I 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:55.560 feel like it just kind of naturally same with the 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:57.320 games where we're just like, oh, I think we're having 0:14:57.400 --> 0:15:01.440 enough fun just talking about this, or movies that, Oh, 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:04.560 here's a change. We've always done live shows. I think 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:07.400 our live show model has changed over the years a 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:11.840 little bit. It's, I mean, relatively similar. The biggest thing 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:15.600 that we've changed is that we used to cover movies 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:20.720 that were really depressing at shows or like really dense, 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:23.920 and then it would be like fight Club, Yes, yes, 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:26.320 which is we stand by the episode, you know, like 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:28.680 it was and we had a wonderful guest. The audience 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:30.280 was great, but you could feel a moment in the 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:32.160 show where it was like either you or I were 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:36.160 like reading like three paragraphs of like theory and we're like, oh, 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:40.360 we actually have to mostly choose fun movies, which feels 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:43.040 so obvious, but we learned it the hard way and 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:47.000 more than once, I think they a couple of those 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:50.400 times being like, oh, people like this episode, but they 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:53.680 maybe don't want to like be like drinking a beer 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:56.520 and hanging out with their friends while they're listening to 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:58.360 us talk about Fight Club. I don't know. 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:01.120 And that's why we did a sh Shrek Tannic tour. 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:04.720 Yeah, and like a Barbie movie tour. And actually this 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:08.280 kind of gets to a question coming up later. Movies 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:10.280 that are also like fun to like dress up with 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:12.600 and like make mrich for, and like I really want 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:15.880 to do a Wicked tour, and like, like there are 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:18.880 certain movies that we save because they would be really 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:20.080 fun live shows. 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:21.720 Yeah, for sure, Star Wars. 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:24.800 We just did our Star Wars prequels tour, So yeah, 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:28.720 we didn't know that you shouldn't talk about a really 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:32.280 depressing movie for two hours in front of a kind 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:34.800 of hostage situation live and learn. 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:40.560 Yeah, so true. Next question comes from Kelly asks how 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:43.240 do you find your guests? Do they come to you 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:45.520 or do you go to them? I know a fair 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:48.800 amount of them are fellow podcasters themselves that you're friends with, 0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:52.480 But what about the others, Well, Kelly, it's a mix, 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:55.600 it's a mix. It depends. Sometimes the guests reach out 0:16:55.600 --> 0:17:00.240 to us or their reps contact us, and if they 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:02.479 seem like a good fit for the show, then we 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:08.080 invite them on. Sometimes we will reach out to someone 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:10.600 who we would like to have as a guest. 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:14.480 Because we're like fans, or because I mean, sometimes we'll 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:17.720 so I guess a question that I've seen presented by 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:22.080 listeners over the years is do guests pick their own movies? 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:27.320 And the answer is, for at least the last five years, yes, 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:31.359 Like that model has changed over time. There was a 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:35.320 time where we would approach specific guests about specific movies. 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:37.840 I think the only exception to that now is if 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:39.960 there is a movie that we would really like to 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:44.960 cover and there is a writer who has written about 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:47.840 that movie and is someone that we know has a 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:51.080 really strong opinion on that movie that we would like 0:17:51.160 --> 0:17:53.680 to explore with them, we'll invite them on the show. 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:58.000 There's definitely a handful of examples like that, but by 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:00.880 and large, anytime you hear I guess in the show, 0:18:01.000 --> 0:18:04.440 especially this deep in like a returning guest, it's almost 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:08.480 always like in the like last two minutes of recording, 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:10.600 we're like, all right, you know, come back anytime you want. 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:13.960 And then it will be I'm thinking of like Shelley 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:16.040 Nicole about how I feel like at the end of 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:18.640 recording with Shelley, she's always like, Okay, well, next time 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:21.280 I want to do this, this or this, and then yeah, 0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:23.440 we'll hit her up or she'll hit us up, and 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:25.240 then we'll do this, this or this or like, you know, 0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:28.040 with repeating guests, it's we always want to make sure 0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:32.359 that guests are covering movies that they are excited to 0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:32.960 talk about. 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:36.080 Yeah, we don't want to like project a particular movie 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:40.320 onto a guest unless they've specifically written about it or 0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:44.959 posted about it or but otherwise, Yeah, it's like it 0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:48.960 is almost entirely guests picking the movie that they cover 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:49.480 with us. 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:52.399 Right. And then, because the show has been on for 0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:56.960 so long, there are now podcast publicists who reach out 0:18:57.000 --> 0:18:59.879 to us when someone has a new show launching or 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:04.480 promoting something, And if it's someone who were interested in 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:07.040 having on the show, or like someone we're a fan 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:08.639 of or someone who's been on the show before, we'll 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:12.000 say yes and we'll find a thing. So the answer 0:19:12.240 --> 0:19:15.720 is kind of all of the above. We still very 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:19.280 often reach out to people who we just are fans 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:21.800 of and would like to have on the show to 0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:26.320 have we have, you know, our like kind of common 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:30.320 stable of returning guests, And yeah, we're trying to keep 0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:33.119 a mix of like familiar voices and new voices on 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:34.240 the show for sure. 0:19:35.680 --> 0:19:39.480 Next question comes from Sammy. What Hollywood trends of the 0:19:39.600 --> 0:19:43.120 twenty twenties do you like or dislike? 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:47.000 What is what's your? What's your? What comes immediately to 0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:49.879 mind for you? I'm like, I need to for me 0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:54.000 pray on this. I appreciate, huh. I appreciate a couple 0:19:54.000 --> 0:19:57.960 of things. The resurgence of lower. 0:19:57.640 --> 0:20:00.680 Budget indie comedies, which feel like the kind of went 0:20:00.720 --> 0:20:06.000 away in like the twenty tens, maybe even earlier. Yeah, 0:20:06.040 --> 0:20:11.240 at least ones that got theatrical releases and are also 0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:13.800 funny not to be bitchy, but. 0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:16.480 No, I mean there was a lot of like I think, 0:20:17.040 --> 0:20:20.320 kind of focus grouped comedies in the twenty tens. 0:20:20.359 --> 0:20:22.680 Definitely, there's like the back half of the twenty tens. Yeah, yeah, 0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:29.879 like studio notes, like high budget but like bad premise. Yeah, comedies. 0:20:30.160 --> 0:20:33.959 But in the past few years, movies that have come 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:36.480 out that I've really loved and I've thought were hilarious, 0:20:36.600 --> 0:20:42.400 such as Dix the Musical, Twinless, Sorry Baby, Theater Camp, 0:20:42.960 --> 0:20:47.920 a handful of others. So I appreciate that. I also 0:20:48.000 --> 0:20:54.320 appreciate that more movies are addressing class in a way 0:20:54.359 --> 0:20:58.119 that felt like class was also kind of ignored in 0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:05.679 the better part of the early twentieth century. Twenty first 0:21:05.960 --> 0:21:08.560 twenty first century is that's so true. 0:21:09.359 --> 0:21:09.639 It is. 0:21:10.200 --> 0:21:13.480 Look, you're just like keep going, thank you so much. 0:21:13.640 --> 0:21:15.560 And we've talked about a few of these movies recently, 0:21:15.640 --> 0:21:22.080 and you know, their execution happens at rates of varying success. 0:21:22.280 --> 0:21:26.840 But I appreciate that, like filmmakers are being like, hey, 0:21:26.880 --> 0:21:30.040 maybe the billionaire class, maybe they're really bad. 0:21:30.440 --> 0:21:34.920 I have mixed feelings on that subgenre. Yeah, but I mean, 0:21:35.000 --> 0:21:38.360 I totally agree with you. I think that the circumstances 0:21:38.400 --> 0:21:43.800 that have led to lower budget movies getting theatrical releases 0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:48.400 is interesting. I mean, the positive thing for the twenty 0:21:48.440 --> 0:21:54.880 twenties is the collapse of franchises. I think we were 0:21:55.080 --> 0:21:58.840 really in the trenches with the aimless franchises in the 0:21:58.840 --> 0:22:01.480 twenty tents and in the tw twenties they stopped making money, 0:22:01.600 --> 0:22:04.800 so they stopped making them. And you know, there's plenty 0:22:04.960 --> 0:22:08.000 to be worried about in the twenty twenties. I think 0:22:08.119 --> 0:22:14.520 the trend I dislike is labor issues for those that 0:22:14.560 --> 0:22:17.600 are like I guess the strikes of twenty twenty three 0:22:17.840 --> 0:22:22.440 were extremely important, the WGA and SAG strikes. However, they 0:22:22.480 --> 0:22:28.040 have not really the ways that studios and the industry 0:22:28.080 --> 0:22:31.280 has responded to those strikes has been to double down 0:22:31.359 --> 0:22:35.320