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Speaker 1: On the Bechdel Cast.

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Speaker 2: The questions asked if movies have women and them, are

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Speaker 2: have individualism? It's the patriarchy, zeph and best start changing

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Speaker 2: it with the Bechdel Cast.

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Speaker 3: Happy New Year, listeners of the Bechdel Cast.

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Speaker 1: It's me Caitlin, it's me Jamie, and we are entering,

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Speaker 1: if you can believe it, the tenth year of the

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Speaker 1: Bechdel Cast. And as you can tell, the show started

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Speaker 1: in November twenty sixteen. Coincidence but telling. And yeah, things

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Speaker 1: are better for women than ever. Yeah, gender issues have

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Speaker 1: been resolved.

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Speaker 3: Look, we solved them.

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Speaker 1: Look we're here to do a Q and A episode.

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Speaker 1: I'm just sorry we didn't fix it.

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Speaker 3: We didn't fix it.

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Speaker 1: We're doing our best bet year. Yeah. Yeah, we're just

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Speaker 1: two people. So we have done this a number of

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Speaker 1: times over the years. We haven't done it in at

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Speaker 1: least three years, is that right? The last time we

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Speaker 1: did it. It's been a while in which we sort

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Speaker 1: of put the call out for questions to our Matreon community,

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Speaker 1: if you're not aware, hot Plug. For many years now,

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Speaker 1: we've had a Patreon aka Matreon where for five dollars

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Speaker 1: a month, you can get two bonus episodes of the podcast,

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Speaker 1: as well as access to our well over two hundred

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Speaker 1: episodes of back catalog that goes back many, many years.

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Speaker 1: And so we asked the Matreon community for questions around

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Speaker 1: the show as we head into our tenth year. Lots

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Speaker 1: of changes, lots to reflect on, and as is common

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Speaker 1: in the incredible Matron community, they showed up, and they

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Speaker 1: showed up in a big way.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we received many, many questions. Unfortunately we won't have

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Speaker 3: time to get to all of them, but we've selected

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Speaker 3: a few questions that we will answer on this little

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Speaker 3: Q and A episode and I'm excited to dive in.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it's uh, it's been eighty four years, yeah,

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Speaker 3: in the podcast, and there's a lot to reflect on.

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Speaker 1: So I mean I think, yeah, maybe in dog years. No,

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Speaker 1: it's been seventy dog years. Oh god, let's not think

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't have to. But why don't we start

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Speaker 3: with a question from Sophia. Okay, this is when we

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Speaker 3: I believe have answered before.

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Speaker 1: But not for a while. I feel like, not for

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Speaker 1: a while, is it it? Yeah? I'd like to hear

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Speaker 1: our respective versions of this story. All eighty four years later.

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Speaker 3: Right, So the question is, how did you guys meet.

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Speaker 1: Wow, meet cute.

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Speaker 3: We had to meet cute. I don't remember a ton

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Speaker 3: Yes, And we were at a stand up show and

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Speaker 3: And then I saw you at various other shows, either

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Speaker 1: History this very podcast. I remember seeing you, I don't

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Speaker 1: lot of hits. But I like that, you know, people

436
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Speaker 1: are responding by like fuck you, let's make something and

437
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Speaker 1: and and that people want to see those stories. So yeah,

438
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Speaker 1: the industry is still fucking sucks shit, yes, but people

439
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,719
Speaker 1: are making really cool stuff anyways, and movie lovers are

440
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Speaker 1: finding it and that's cool.

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Speaker 3: Let's take a quick break and then we will be

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Speaker 3: back with more questions. Next question comes from l is

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Speaker 3: it more fun to cover actually good movies or really

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Speaker 3: bad movies? Listening to the two of you shredding a

445
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Speaker 3: horrendous movie is always fun, but I wonder if it's

446
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Speaker 3: also fun for you. The answer is I fucking love it.

447
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Speaker 3: I have a blast covering horrible movies, even though we

448
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Speaker 3: might so grown and grumble when say, oh, I can't

449
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Speaker 3: believe you requested b movie, or.

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Speaker 1: We love the hereuse. We just wrapped our episode on

451
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Speaker 1: shark Tail and we were like me, it's a part

452
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Speaker 1: of the performance. Everyone we love watching dog shit. Yeah,

453
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Speaker 1: that's the end of the sense it's fun. I mean,

454
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Speaker 1: I think they're they're equally fun, like it is also amazing.

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Speaker 1: We recently recorded an episode with returning guests Angelica Jade Bastian,

456
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: who's like just the coolest person in the world. It's

457
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Speaker 1: coming out in the near future. It's about Whatever Happened

458
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Speaker 1: to Baby Jane, which is a great movie. And I

459
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: leave recording those episodes feeling like, yes, let's make art.

460
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Speaker 1: Art is amazing. Yes, I love talking to people about

461
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 1: cool art. And and then I also leave with a

462
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 1: very different kind of high when we talked about Sharktail

463
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Speaker 1: for three hours, so it's like you kind of can't lose.

464
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Speaker 1: It's honestly, the harder part is when we're we're not

465
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Speaker 1: the tougher episodes. I think that the episodes where you

466
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Speaker 1: leave with less less of a natural high, like it

467
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Speaker 1: was fine.

468
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, yeah, those mid mid movies.

469
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but talking about shitty movies, it's the best.

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Speaker 3: I truly love it. The worst the movie the funner

471
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Speaker 3: I have.

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Speaker 1: In most cases. Yeah, Like I mean, I'm still riding

473
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Speaker 1: high on that shark tail, on that shark tail fume

474
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Speaker 1: from earlier, maybe Martin Scorsese Pufferfish.

475
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Speaker 3: The Titanic is a main character almost, Yeah, the sunken Titanic,

476
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Speaker 3: if that's the prime location in the movie.

477
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Speaker 1: If that's not an ad for the Matriarch, I don't

478
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Speaker 1: know what is exactly.

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Speaker 3: Okay. Next question comes from Amy. Have there been any

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Speaker 3: moments in your podcast discussions that have changed your perspective

481
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Speaker 3: on a movie or genre? If so, could you please

482
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Speaker 3: share more about this.

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Speaker 1: I think through talking to you and other guests, I

484
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Speaker 1: have an I went into I think I have like

485
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Speaker 1: I had at the beginning of the Backfield cast, kind

486
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Speaker 1: of like more traditionally feminine taste in movies, which I

487
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Speaker 1: think it was like a lot of our early dynamic

488
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Speaker 1: is I love musicals and rom coms, and you tended

489
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Speaker 1: to love action to venture, and I have a lot

490
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Speaker 1: more appreciation for genres like action like horror, which I

491
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Speaker 1: feel like it's just like gotten really, you know, mainstreamified

492
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Speaker 1: in the last ten years, and I've like been unable

493
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Speaker 1: to deny it, and even sci fi because I mean,

494
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Speaker 1: since this podcast started writing, it started writing, I've became

495
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Speaker 1: a star Trek writer briefly. So I think that the

496
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Speaker 1: podcast has broadened my perspective and like made me sit

497
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Speaker 1: with movies I would not normally make myself watch, and

498
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Speaker 1: it's like in a good way. Like I feel like

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Speaker 1: it has like expanded my understanding of movies and what

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Speaker 1: I like. So I think it's been great for me

501
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Speaker 1: in that way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly, same because I mean, to your point, we

503
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Speaker 3: had different tastes in genres, and I was consistently pooh

504
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Speaker 3: poohing rom coms especially. I feel like, sure, yeah, I

505
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Speaker 3: did not really engage with and you know, it's not

506
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Speaker 3: my favorite genre still, but I see them for the

507
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Speaker 3: merit that they have.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to.

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Speaker 3: Think of specific movies that have that. I like kind

510
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Speaker 3: of came in with a preconceived notion and then like

511
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Speaker 3: had my mind kind of blown by our discussion. I'm

512
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Speaker 3: sure there are examples of this, but unfortunately I no

513
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Speaker 3: longer have a functioning memory.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think that there's just been a lot of

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Speaker 1: examples over the years of like me going in being

516
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Speaker 1: like I'm not going to be into this based on genre,

517
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Speaker 1: and then I've left very surprised and like excited.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, next question comes from Rory. How do you feel

519
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Speaker 3: about separating the artist the art i e. The movie,

520
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Speaker 3: and the individuals who made it. Have your views on

521
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 3: this changed over time? This is a great question that

522
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 3: I have very complicated feelings about, still sure where you know,

523
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Speaker 3: there are movies that I especially ones that I have

524
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 3: nostalgia for, in nostalgia can be a pesky emotion, but

525
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 3: there are movies that were made by bad people or

526
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Speaker 3: that star bad people that I grew up with, and

527
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Speaker 3: I have a hard time letting those go, and I

528
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 3: don't want to necessarily give those movies up. But I mean,

529
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Speaker 3: the whole kind of premise of this podcast is, you know,

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Speaker 3: acknowledging the things that are problematic about a movie, and

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Speaker 3: that might include who is behind the camera or in

532
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Speaker 3: front of the camera and acknowledging that and talking about

533
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Speaker 3: it and talking through it. So that's something at least

534
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Speaker 3: that we do because a lot of people don't even

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Speaker 3: get to that step of acknowledging well.

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Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people too. And again

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Speaker 1: this isn't like I'm not thinking of anything in particular,

538
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Speaker 1: but like I think that there is a common sort

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Speaker 1: of conflation that I've been guilty of myself. So I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying that we've never done this on this show,

541
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Speaker 1: because I think we definitely have. But like conflating acknowledgement

542
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:36,959
Speaker 1: with throat in the trash, it's completely culturally useless. And

543
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Speaker 1: I've I mean, there's like creators that I really enjoy

544
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: who really tense up at the acknowledgement, even if it's like, well, no,

545
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: I like this movie, but like we can't not acknowledge right,

546
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Speaker 1: Like I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Well, to your point, like people's mileage varies on this significantly,

548
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Speaker 3: where people if anyone has been you know, outed as

549
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 3: a predator and they made a movie or they started

550
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 3: a movie, people will completely disengage with those movies and

551
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Speaker 3: refuse to watch them. And that's fair.

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Speaker 1: Totally, I mean, and there are certain I think it's

553
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: so tricky because there are I mean, like this is

554
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Speaker 1: the most obvious example, but like I don't want to

555
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: cover Woody Allen movies on this show, Like I don't

556
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: want to think about him. I don't want to engage

557
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: with his work because he is so completely repugnant. But

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Speaker 1: I do think a part of it, for me at least,

559
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Speaker 1: is that you can feel that in the art. To me, totally,

560
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: you can feel why I don't want to engage with

561
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Speaker 1: his work in the stories he tells. Yeah, when that's

562
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Speaker 1: not true, I think is when it gets again I'm

563
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Speaker 1: not thinking of anyone in particular besides fucking Woody Allen.

564
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Speaker 1: But like, I think that when it where it feels harder,

565
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Speaker 1: is like if it is specifically, if it's like an

566
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Speaker 1: actor who did not write or direct the movie, right,

567
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: that can feel very tricky. And I mean, there's no

568
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Speaker 1: wrong way to approach this. They really it's like a

569
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Speaker 1: very personal thing. And I think that it certainly, like

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Speaker 1: when I was younger, I was a lot more like

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I guess unnuanced in how I thought

572
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Speaker 1: about it, and and I'm not even like mad that

573
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Speaker 1: I felt that way. I was like, yeah, good for her,

574
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Speaker 1: you know, like fuck that guy, fuck that movie. But

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Speaker 1: it's I don't know, yeah, it's just like a very

576
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: individual thing, and it's like it's it's hard for me

577
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Speaker 1: to like, especially if it's like whatever, someone that you

578
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Speaker 1: volunteer with, someone who gives back to their community, someone

579
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Speaker 1: who really considers other people, and they're like, but I

580
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: really enjoy X movie. You're like, well, I'm not gonna

581
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: say like you're a bad person. What I mean like, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. I think a hard and fast line

583
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Speaker 3: for me is I will not spend money on movies. Yes, yeah,

584
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 3: bad people are involved with.

585
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Speaker 1: You have to steal it, you have to dot ru.

586
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Speaker 3: Luckily I already own on DVD many movies made by

587
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 3: problematic people that I like, Yeah, I won't spend money.

588
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Speaker 3: I won't like go to like if there's a screening

589
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Speaker 3: of that movie. I won't spend money on a ticket.

590
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Speaker 3: I won't rent a movie or buy digitally, like, I

591
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Speaker 3: won't spend money.

592
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Speaker 1: That's I think like an excellent sort of like standard

593
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Speaker 1: bearer for it. Because it's like you cannot help the

594
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: movies that affect you, and you can't help how people

595
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Speaker 1: in your life feel about you feeling that way. Like

596
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Speaker 1: I think that over time, even in like our friend group,

597
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Speaker 1: it's like there's just like disagreement on certain movies, certain

598
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Speaker 1: cultural figures. I've gotten into it with partners too, of like, well,

599
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Speaker 1: I don't really like watching this person's work because of this,

600
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Speaker 1: and they're like, well, I, you know, like they don't

601
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Speaker 1: feel the same way. It doesn't make either of us

602
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Speaker 1: bad people, you know, Like, like, especially especially around the

603
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: Mean Too movement, I feel like I felt very I mean,

604
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: I felt very, very strongly about a lot. But it

605
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: was it's so hard because I we were obviously like

606
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: we were a show as that movement was kind of unfolding,

607
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: and we were very much in conversation with it, and

608
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Speaker 1: it was very I don't know, for me at least,

609
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: it was like a very cathartic time to be recording

610
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: because it felt like, you know, we've been working on

611
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: the show for over a year at that point, and

612
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: we'd been you know, in the world for much longer,

613
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Speaker 1: and it was very cathartic to feel like people are

614
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: finally taking the kind of issues that we have seriously.

615
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Speaker 1: And I think that that energy and that Catharsis was

616
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Speaker 1: so like, wow, things have changed. That when they didn't

617
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Speaker 1: actually change and then when they actually started to actively regress,

618
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Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, well what do we do now? You know,

619
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Speaker 1: Like I don't know, it's so tricky because it's like

620
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: it in a world where it's like you want to

621
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Speaker 1: remain consistent and steady in your personal convictions and also

622
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Speaker 1: not prevent conversations from starting from people who do not

623
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: feel one to one exactly as you do. And I

624
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 1: know that that's a tricky thing because I'm not saying

625
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: like we should all hang out with our Republicans and

626
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, Like that's not what I'm saying. It's

627
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Speaker 1: just like part of what I love about this podcast

628
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: is that it is a place to actually talk about

629
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Speaker 1: this stickier stuff in a way that isn't like, I

630
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: don't know, in a way that feels safe and good

631
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Speaker 1: and I don't know separating the art from the artists,

632
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Speaker 1: The answer is, oh fucking no. I mean there's I

633
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: think it's different for everybody, and I think Caitlin, your

634
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: rule is like if you have an issue with an artist,

635
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 1: don't give them money. Don't give them money.

636
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 3: Because in a capitalist society, money is the language that

637
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 3: speaks the loudest. So if you withhold your money, if

638
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 3: you spend it somewhere else, like, these are the things

639
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 3: that end up, unfortunately mattering at the end of the day.

640
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 3: And as long as we live in a capitalist healthscape.

641
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Speaker 1: And also just like prioritize, I think a lot of

642
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 1: like it's important what you say, it's more important what

643
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 1: you do. So I think that there's whatever, Like I'm

644
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: thinking more like peak Twitter before everyone, you know, before

645
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: a fascist spot and everyone fucked off. But stating you're like,

646
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: it's it's important to state your personal convictions is just

647
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 1: as important to act those out in the real world.

648
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: And so is it a more productive use of your

649
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 1: time to go volunteer in your community then to get

650
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Speaker 1: into it with a stranger online. About separating the art

651
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Speaker 1: form the artist in a very specific case, like frankly, yes,

652
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Speaker 1: like go outside and do something and like I and

653
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Speaker 1: and make your own art too, like you know it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it just feels like I don't want to I

656
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: don't want to think about Woody Allen anymore? You know,

657
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Speaker 1: I want to debate. Oh can we watch Anny Hall?

658
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: I watching that ship? We love Diane Keaton, So we

659
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Speaker 1: covered the Family Stone. It's honestly that fucking simple.

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Speaker 3: Fy yep, Okay, next question comes from Donna. I'man what's

661
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Speaker 3: been your favorite movie you two covered this year? What's

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Speaker 3: been your favorite movie you saw this year? These are

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Speaker 3: definitely different answers, same answer for me. Oh wait, what's

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Speaker 3: your answers favorite movie I saw this year? I have

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Speaker 3: a few, okay, and I'm gonna I'm gonna stick to

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Speaker 3: ones that came out this year as well.

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Speaker 1: Just everybody says like, and I'm gonna sing them in

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Speaker 1: a rap.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm gonna stick to the ones that came out

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Speaker 3: this year.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 3: I loved like I mentioned, Sorry Baby and Twinless. I

673
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Speaker 3: loved Sinners. I really enjoyed Weapons. Hell yeah, I really

674
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Speaker 3: enjoyed one battle after another. I'm sure I'm forgetting some.

675
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 3: But oh and I just saw Marty Supreme and by

676
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Speaker 3: came out this year, I mean came out in twenty

677
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Speaker 3: twenty five favorite movies we've covered on the podcast this year,

678
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Speaker 3: and I will clarify that these are not necessarily my

679
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 3: favorite from a Bechdel cast lens. These aren't movies that

680
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 3: I'm like, wow, they fared so well on the nipple scale,

681
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Speaker 3: But these are just personal favorites of mine. Dracula, The

682
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 3: Francis Ford Coppola, One Shawshank, Redemption, Holes, Oh Brother, Where

683
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Speaker 3: Are Though? Those were three movies from my birthday month,

684
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Speaker 3: so stands to reason that they're some of my favorites.

685
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Speaker 3: We covered the Before trilogy this year this year, Yes,

686
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Speaker 3: that was a big one for me, and then also

687
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Speaker 3: Banshee's of Venisharin Yay, how about you, Jamie, So reason

688
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Speaker 3: I think you've prepared for this episode worth early than I.

689
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Speaker 3: So I did not have a prepared list locked in letted.

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Speaker 1: I think for me it is off the top of

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Speaker 1: the head. The same answer for both questions. A favorite

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Speaker 1: movie I saw for the first time this year. Favorite

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Speaker 1: movie we covered this year both Amadaas Wow, kind of

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Speaker 1: no contest. Amadea's Fucked My Shit Up this year. I

695
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Speaker 1: really enjoyed getting into men being bitches Cannon this year

696
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Speaker 1: to the point where I wrote my own and we're

697
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: making it. I really yeah. Amadea's was really stuck with

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Speaker 1: B movies that we covered this year or I saw

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Speaker 1: for the first time. I also really liked Sorry Baby,

700
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Speaker 1: I really liked. If I had likes, I'd kick you.

701
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,720
Speaker 1: Thought that movie fucking ripped. Although it is a stressful watch.

702
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed covering whatever Happened to Baby Jane, recently

703
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Speaker 1: seeing ry Lane for the first time, seeing the Before

704
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Speaker 1: trilogy for the first time. Those are really good. I'm

705
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Speaker 1: just like scrolling through my letterbox, I'm like, what else

706
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: did I really love this year? No Other Land was terrific?

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00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 3: Ah?

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Speaker 1: What the hell?

709
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 3: Oh?

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00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: And a great documentary that if you ever get the

711
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: chance to see it, you should. It hasn't been widely

712
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: released yet, but I hosted a screening Is So Good

713
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:15,439
Speaker 1: called American Theater. It was really really good. I saw

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Speaker 1: Mikey and Nikki for the first time this year. That

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Speaker 1: was really fun. I really really I feel like, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I saw Sinners and shin Godzilla the same week. That

717
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: was awesome.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Shin Godzilla. I saw that this year too.

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Speaker 1: Really really enjoyed it. Yeah. I don't know, I had

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Speaker 1: a fun I had a fun movie year. Yeah, But

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Speaker 1: I think I think for me all time movie that

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Speaker 1: we covered and I saw for the first time. It's

723
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Speaker 1: gotta be Amadaeus from fucking nineteen eighty or whatever, that

724
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: forty five year old movie. It fucked my shit up

725
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: this year. I loved those two bitches facing off. I

726
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 1: loved this so bitchy.

727
00:41:55,320 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, awesome. Next question comes from Maren. What's a movie

728
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Speaker 3: that you would like to recover from earlier in the

729
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Speaker 3: podcast to speak back to our first or second question

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Speaker 3: on this episode. You know, things from the first couple years,

731
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Speaker 3: kind of anything from that era and.

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Speaker 1: We and to be clear, that's nothing against our guests,

733
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Speaker 1: we just didn't know what we were doing yet.

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Speaker 3: We were little babies.

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Speaker 1: I would love to recover the Wizard of Oz same, yeah,

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Speaker 1: especially in light of wick Head so true.

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Speaker 3: A couple others that come to mind would be clueless.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they'd be fun to cover again.

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00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 3: I think Mean Girls. I think Dirty Dancing deserves a recover.

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Speaker 1: Dirty Dancing as our first live show. Yes, maybe film

741
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Speaker 1: and Louise American Psycho we covered pretty early in our matrearch.

742
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: I would love to recover that. Yeah. I think that

743
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: there's just like a lot of movies from our first

744
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: two three years that we would be able to speak

745
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,959
Speaker 1: to more intelligently. Now that would hopefully be and also,

746
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Speaker 1: of course Titanic again, well, well again again.

747
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Speaker 3: Among the questions that matrons submitted, people also threw in

748
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Speaker 3: a few different movie requests. So if people listening right now,

749
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Speaker 3: if you have any specific movies you're desperate to hear

750
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Speaker 3: us talk about, any specific guests, please always give us

751
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Speaker 3: your recommendations. But at least one person was like, what

752
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 3: happened to your annual Titanic episode? You didn't do one

753
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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Look, times were hard, it was bad. No, we we

755
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Speaker 1: fucked up. Frankly, we fucked up twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: It won't happen again, never again.

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Speaker 1: It won't happen again, and we are sorry we failed you. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think really like you name it from the first

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Speaker 1: couple of years. We we do it again if it

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Speaker 1: was a movie we felt strongly enough about. Because we're

761
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Speaker 1: just different people. We don't know those people, those bitches,

762
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Speaker 1: those bitches couldn't even read got we gotta do it again?

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Speaker 3: We do Okay, next question, there's only a few left.

764
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Speaker 3: This comes from Dora. Are there any specific movies you

765
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Speaker 3: would not cover on the cast?

766
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: Oh?

767
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 3: And if so, why.

768
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna separate whoa double separation incoming. I'm gonna separate

769
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: this from separating the art from the artists. There are

770
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Speaker 1: certain like specifically like directors and writers whose work we

771
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 1: are just completely disinterested in. But I'm going to more

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Speaker 1: focus on I think that there are occasionally there are

773
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Speaker 1: movies that one of us will pitch the other that

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Speaker 1: the other will say no to because it's too annoying.

775
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Speaker 1: There are some movies that, like you have reviews. There

776
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Speaker 1: have been movies I've refused. I'm trying to think of

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Speaker 1: what they are though. Okay, I think you always say

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Speaker 1: no to the Polar Express. You're like any anything else,

779
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: anything but the Polar Expressed. You just rejected it last month,

780
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Speaker 1: even though I'm pretty sure it won.

781
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 3: We should have covered it next year, I promise. Look,

782
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Speaker 3: I promise.

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Speaker 1: I know next year we're doing is. We don't have

784
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Speaker 1: to do it.

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing. To me, anything is fair game. And

786
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Speaker 3: even if I again grown and grumble about a specific movie,

787
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 3: there's very little that's off the table for me. But yeah,

788
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Speaker 3: I know there have been times where I'm like, hey, Jamie,

789
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 3: and it's not even movies that I like. Well, first

790
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Speaker 3: of all, I was like we should cover Anaconda to

791
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Speaker 3: line up with the reboot that's coming out, and you

792
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Speaker 3: did not seem interested in that, even though I've never

793
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Speaker 3: even seen them.

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Speaker 1: Well, I also, I think I also don't because we

795
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Speaker 1: used to cover a lot of like movies that were

796
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Speaker 1: being rebooted. But I feel like reboots don't even do

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Speaker 1: well at the box office. So I'm like, I don't

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Speaker 1: want to watch a movie I don't like for a

799
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Speaker 1: movie no one's gonna see.

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Speaker 3: Well, let me tell you something. I took it upon

801
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:04,720
Speaker 3: myself to watch the original Anaconda for what, well, for fun,

802
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,760
Speaker 3: and it was very fun. It rocked.

803
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: I'm sure I would actually like it. Well. Something I

804
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Speaker 1: recently rejected was you were like to celebrate the release

805
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Speaker 1: of what is it?

806
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 3: Uh?

807
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: I'm dying up here now. That was a TV show?

808
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: What was it called? Is this thing on? It's being on?

809
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 3: The will arn't a stand up comedy movie.

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00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: I said a hard note to any movies about stand

811
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Speaker 1: up comedians because they make my skin crawl.

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00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:30,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't do it, and that's fair.

813
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: I can't do it.

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Speaker 3: Even though there's that one with Sally Field that I

815
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,280
Speaker 3: think would give us a lot to talk about.

816
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Speaker 1: But I respect, I would be open to a Sally

817
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Speaker 1: Field Jewry because I feel like we've actually, like Sally

818
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Speaker 1: Field has been it because she was also in Fucking

819
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Speaker 1: is It norma normal gene right, like the Big the

820
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Speaker 1: Big Labor movie. Like she she has such a great filmography.

821
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Speaker 1: Maybe that's a good matreand theme.

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00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 3: Okay, Sally Field March.

823
00:46:56,239 --> 00:47:00,919
Speaker 1: Sally Sally Field March. Because Natalie Portman is been discontinued

824
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Speaker 1: on our on our show, It's I kind of like

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00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 1: movies that that one of us is just like, ugh, ugh,

826
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Speaker 1: life's too short. Life's too short to watch movies about

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Speaker 1: stand ups and or the Polar Express.

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Speaker 3: You're not wrong? Okay. That brings us to the next

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Speaker 3: question that Michelle asks as a certifiable Wicked Stan When

830
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Speaker 3: are y'all gonna cover the movies Jamie.

831
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Speaker 1: To tour tour? I mean, well, I guess this takes

832
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Speaker 1: us back to the previous question. I would be so

833
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:41,919
Speaker 1: much fun. Our outfits would be so fun. I yeah,

834
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: I mean, we're we've got to cover Wicked one way

835
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: or another. I'd love it to be at a live show.

836
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Speaker 1: But if if you disagree, then then then name a

837
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 1: more fun movie about two women. Then We're Wicked that

838
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: we haven't covered already, because what is it? Any other

839
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Speaker 1: billion dollar movies about two women? Right now? Not thinking of.

840
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Speaker 3: Any pondering interesting.

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00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: I just want to dress up like Glinda, and so

842
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: that is. And I also love Wicked one, and I

843
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 1: will not be sharing my opinions on Wicked for good

844
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,399
Speaker 1: unless I'm being paid to do it. But Wicked one,

845
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: I think is amazing. Cynthia Rivo, are in a grande?

846
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: Come on, It's just like the first musical movie in

847
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: like a decade where they cast people who can sing

848
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: without computer assistance. Jonathan Bailey, are you joking? One of

849
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 1: the hotest been on the face of the planet. I

850
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 1: don't like Jeff Goldblum's performance. No, I'm just doing the

851
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: episode now. Jeff Goldblum I find very grading in most settings.

852
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: Michelle Yo frankly does a bad job. Cynthia Arianna, Jonathan Bailey,

853
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 1: Bone Yang Bone Yang, John Cheu, forever and ever and

854
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: ever like it's Wicked, It's Wicked even SpongeBob. Why not

855
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: even SpongeBob? What do you mean You'll have to wait

856
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 1: for the Wicked episode for me to tell you about

857
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: SpongeBob's connection to wicked. Whoa, I can't wait to tell

858
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: you about it.

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00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 3: Okay, we'll see. This brings us to the next segment.

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Speaker 3: It's called the Shrek section or the Shrektion because we

861
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 3: got several questions pertaining to Shrek, and I think it's

862
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 3: probably because, of course, the image that I included with

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Speaker 3: this post on our Matreon asking for questions was an

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Speaker 3: image of Shrek and donkeys. I have to imagine that's

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Speaker 3: what influenced many of these questions, but I'm not mad

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Speaker 3: about it. First question from Will Okay, when will you

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Speaker 3: two be writing the screenplay for a fem freeboot of Shrek?

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that was Shrek two? But uh, will

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Speaker 1: we will, we will, We've it's it's it's already, it's

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Speaker 1: in the works. It's in the works.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we've got a question from Kate. Would you do

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Speaker 3: a commentary for Shrek and Shrek two? I think that

873
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Speaker 3: would be like super fun, the way that we did

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Speaker 3: that Titanic commentary that one time years ago.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we used to, like, I mean we we we

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Speaker 1: were kind of setting our ways on the Matreon right

877
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Speaker 1: now where we do two original episodes which people like.

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Speaker 1: But A was like, I kind of missed that period

879
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Speaker 1: of time where we would occasionally kind of mix it up,

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Speaker 1: do a commentary, do something I would be I would

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Speaker 1: be down, especially Shrek two, Shrek April Shripril.

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Speaker 3: Shry for real, Shrek Shreptember Shrep.

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Speaker 1: Okay, now we're talking.

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Speaker 3: Now we're talking. Now we're talking. Okay. Next question from

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Speaker 3: Joe of the two of you, who is Shrek and

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Speaker 3: who is Donkey?

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Speaker 1: I mean, wow, I don't know. All my answers are evasive,

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Speaker 1: like it depends on the day. I think we both

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00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: are both we contain multitudes. I'm trying to think of

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Speaker 1: who in the Shrek franchise would be my ideal, Like,

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Speaker 1: who would I want people to be like you remind

892
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 1: me of this person from Shrek? Probably no one. Honestly,

893
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Speaker 1: I'd be disappointed to be like you remind me of

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Speaker 1: a character from Shrek.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't want to be gingy Oh.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know. I mean I kind of am

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Speaker 1: like I love Farkwaad. I don't want people to think

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Speaker 1: of me as a Farkuad type, but I love fark Wood.

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Speaker 3: He's pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: He's pretty cool, And I love Sparkwad's mom.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, Wait do we meet Parkwad's mom?

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Speaker 1: Did we not meet Parks? This is why we had

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Speaker 1: to do that? We have to do this. Maybe I

904
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Speaker 1: just totally made that up.

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Speaker 3: We got we got a fast track Shreptember, shrep Timber.

906
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Speaker 1: I want to be one of the scary Shrek babies.

907
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 1: I want to be the Shrek baby. Oh god, I

908
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: think I want Shrek to be my dad? Oh wait,

909
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: what is that character from Shrek for that says something funny?

910
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the roar that one. I love that.

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Speaker 1: You say you knew what I was saying. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: the kid in Shrek for that says that be okay?

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, So hopefully that answers your question, Joe. Next

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Speaker 3: and final question of the Shrek dishrection, Mary, fuck kill Shrek, Titanic,

915
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Speaker 3: Christmas Prince franchise.

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Speaker 1: Oh kill Christmas Prince easy?

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Speaker 3: I think so yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Fuck Shrek. Marry Titanic for me?

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Speaker 3: I think, see I would fuck Titanic Mary, Shrek, Well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I guess you marry Titanic. It's like, well,

921
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: what are you guys gonna do together?

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Speaker 3: But with Shrek, it's an endless adventure.

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Speaker 1: With Shrek, and you know he's a he's a good partner.

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00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 1: He's been married for twenty five years.

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Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah, true, he's.

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Speaker 1: Been He's Yeah, I mean like he as we saw

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Speaker 1: in Trek four. You know that he has his issues, but.

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Speaker 3: Well and in Shrek three, and in Shrek two and

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Speaker 3: in Shrek one he has his issues.

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Speaker 1: But I mean as a husband. I guess it's the

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Speaker 1: Shrek's two, three, and four where we learned about Shrek's

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Speaker 1: ability to be a husband. Yeah, I guess that that

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Speaker 1: does make sense. Marrying Titanic feels kind of like a

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Speaker 1: lost cause in a way. But although although although, going

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Speaker 1: off of the fact that we just covered Sharktail, if

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Speaker 1: I married the Titanic, I would just end up living

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Speaker 1: with the Italian sharks in Shark Taale because they move

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Speaker 1: in to the shipwreck of the Titanic. Or even better,

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Speaker 1: is what is that Italian? Speaking of Italy, the Italian

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Speaker 1: animated ripoff of an American tale, Anastasia and Titanic that

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Speaker 1: came out in nineteen ninety eight.

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Speaker 3: Oh, the Legend of Titanic, the Legend of Titanic.

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Speaker 1: And then I could marry that big.

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Speaker 3: Octopus you mean tentacles.

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Speaker 1: Tentacles, Yes, Tentacles, the octopus who famously saved all the

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Speaker 1: passengers of the Titanic from dying.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, by holding the broken and half Titanic, holding it

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Speaker 3: back together.

949
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Speaker 1: Everyone evacuated with the plenty of.

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Speaker 3: Boats that they had the exact right number of boats.

951
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Speaker 1: And then tragically was pulled to the bottom when Dentles died.

952
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Speaker 1: It was so funny when Tentacles died.

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Speaker 3: Great, what was the question?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you, kill Christmas Print, fuck Titanic, Mary Shrek.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, And then the last question curtails is

956
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Speaker 3: that the right word dovetails maybe into a plug for

957
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Speaker 3: something that we don't know all the details of yet,

958
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Speaker 3: but we're announcing intent exactly. The question comes from Nancy asks,

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Speaker 3: are y'all doing another tour again soon? Slash, will you

960
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Speaker 3: be coming to the New York City, New Jersey area?

961
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Speaker 3: And then several other people asked will we come back

962
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Speaker 3: to the UK at any point? Will we come to Australia.

963
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Speaker 3: Those questions were not too sure about. But because we're

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Speaker 3: entering our ten years of doing the podcast, we are

965
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Speaker 3: planning a ten year anniversary tour that is not going

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Speaker 3: to be about Wicked. No, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just saying a couple of it could

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Speaker 1: be about Wicked. They don't have to be about Wicked.

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Speaker 1: We'll see, we'll see, but we will go on a

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Speaker 1: ten year tour. We will announce the details when we

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Speaker 1: have them. It'll probably be later in the year because

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Speaker 1: that's when our ten year anniversary is is later in

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Speaker 1: the year. But we were very excited we've done I

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Speaker 1: think in the last couple of years we've done a

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Speaker 1: number of shorter tours, but this would be kind of

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Speaker 1: a Beefer a beef here ten year celebration tour. Then

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Speaker 1: I'm very excited for.

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Speaker 3: So am I. Yeah, we have to hammer out all

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Speaker 3: the detail hills still, but we will keep listeners abreast.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we've and with that, that concludes our Q and

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Speaker 1: A episode, our first in a couple of years. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much to all of our matrons who submitted questions.

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Speaker 1: Sorry that we weren't able to get to everybody's And

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Speaker 1: if you were like, hey, why couldn't I submit a question,

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Speaker 1: it's because you're not a member of the Matreon and

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988
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Speaker 1: its continuation and our ability to pay our guests all

990
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Speaker 1: If you're interested in going to the ten year tour,

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Speaker 3: A price that has never increased, by the way, No,

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Speaker 3: you look around, we see inflation and we say no,

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Speaker 3: not us.

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Speaker 1: And Patreon keeps getting us to change the policy. But frankly,

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Speaker 1: it's it's always been five dollars and uh, yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: been five dollars for eight years. Honey, Please join us

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Speaker 1: over there. We really love our community, and yeah, we're

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Speaker 1: very grateful to have that community and to have all

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Speaker 1: of our listeners. We love all of our listeners equally.

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Speaker 3: It's true, but we do.

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Speaker 1: Love the Matrons just more. It's okay. Do you have.

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00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 3: Anything you want to plug, Jamie.

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Speaker 1: Not in the short term. Yeah, no, this this year,

1013
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Speaker 1: I am. I think when this episode releases, I will

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Speaker 1: be shooting my first feature, which I'm very excited about

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Speaker 1: me So yeah, I guess stay tuned for me to

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Speaker 1: tell you what happens with that, and that I will

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Speaker 1: have a new book, my first novel coming out in

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Speaker 1: the summer of twenty twenty seven. It is currently titled

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Speaker 1: The Tower, but I am told that that title will change,

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Speaker 1: so I will let you. So I have just like, hey,

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Speaker 1: here are things that I've made, but I don't know

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Speaker 1: what they're called, and I don't know when you'll be

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Speaker 1: able to have them. Follow me on Instagram. I guess

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Christ Superstar, that's what I got. That's what I got, Kitly,

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Speaker 1: what about you?

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Speaker 3: You can also follow me on Instagram at Caitlin Durante.

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Speaker 3: And the main thing I want to plug is I

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Speaker 3: have another round of my screenwriting classes coming up. I

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Speaker 3: have several new sections, some of them are sold out

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Speaker 3: already brag. But my intro to screenwriting class at the

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Speaker 3: time of this recording still has a few spots left

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Speaker 3: and it starts on oh, what's the date, January seventeenth,

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Speaker 3: so there's still some time if those spots are still

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Speaker 3: available by the time you're listening to this. You can

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Speaker 3: find information about all of my classes on my website,

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Speaker 3: Caitlindurante dot com. But yeah, I teach basically two screenwriting classes.

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Speaker 3: One is an introductory class, and then one is a

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Speaker 3: workshopping class. And that's for people who have taken my

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Speaker 3: screenwriting and have a project that they're wanting to start

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Speaker 3: or that they're currently working on that you would bring

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Speaker 3: into the group and do table reads and then get

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Speaker 3: feedback from myself and your classmates. So those are my

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Speaker 3: screenwriting classes that people.

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Speaker 1: Should take all the time.

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Speaker 3: Hell yeah, But yeah, that's pretty much it from me.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, listeners. Thanks again to the matrons

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Speaker 3: who submitted questions. Thanks to the matrons in general. Thank

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Speaker 3: you to the entire Bechdel Cast community. Yes we love you,

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Speaker 3: and we'll be back next week with your regularly scheduled programming.

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Speaker 1: Love you, bye bye. The Bechdel Cast is a production

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Speaker 1: of iHeartMedia hosted and produced by me Jamie Loftus.

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Speaker 3: And me Caitlyn Dorante. The podcast is also produced by

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Speaker 3: Sophie Lichtermann and.

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Speaker 1: Edited by Caitlyn Durrante. Ever heard of Them? That's me

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Speaker 1: Oh My God? And our theme song, by the way,

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Speaker 1: was composed by Mike Kaplan.

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