WEBVTT - Savant 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:04.439 Of the law and order franchises. SVU is considered especially watchable. 0:00:04.680 --> 0:00:07.240 We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the 0:00:07.320 --> 0:00:09.280 vicious felonies. These episodes are based on. 0:00:09.600 --> 0:00:10.720 These are our stories. 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:30.000 Done done, Yay, that's messed up. 0:00:30.040 --> 0:00:33.360 In SVU podcast, I'm Liza Trigger. 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:36.760 And I'm Kara Klank and you guys get it. It's 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:41.720 SVU recaps, it's true crime, deep dives, sometimes chats interviews 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:46.520 with celebs, to be honest, but not today, not today, 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:51.960 not today, not a chat episode. And we haven't recorded 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:55.080 live in a minute because I've been I've been on 0:00:55.120 --> 0:00:59.200 the road, but not as a comedian, as a mom 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:03.520 and and uh yeah, it's like where are you right now? 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:06.520 Right now, I'm in West Virginia. I'm at my in laws. 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:09.440 So the bulk of this cross I'm looking. 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:12.800 At this wallpaper and I'm trying to understand what's happening. 0:01:13.000 --> 0:01:16.440 Basically, I know it's it's just the. 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:20.680 Ceiling and having a hard time. I'm having a hard 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:21.560 time figuring it out. 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:27.560 It's got it, yeah, yeah, yeah about an elliptical. 0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:31.600 Yes, yes, I'm in a funhouse in West Virginia. Helped 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:35.039 me out, get me out of here. No, so we 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:38.080 just have been driving for like two and a half weeks, 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:41.000 and we wanted it here for five days. I was 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:43.399 just telling Casey before you got on, like, it actually 0:01:43.440 --> 0:01:47.120 has been super fun not. I mean, I've obviously snapped 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:49.680 at my children a handful of times, but it's not 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:53.040 been as I thought I was going to be, like, oh, 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:55.120 like but but I honestly was like I could go 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:55.840 a few more places. 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:56.880 I'm kind of sad it's over. 0:01:57.320 --> 0:01:59.200 I mean, we're in West Virginia for a few days, 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:00.800 and then we stop off in New Jersey for the 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:04.560 fourth of July, and then uh, we'll be in you know, 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:06.880 on our in our East Coast destinations for the rest 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:08.960 of the summer where we're kind of like able to move, 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:12.960 like really unpack. I mean, like obviously getting in and 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:16.240 out of hotels with like three couple or two or 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:18.880 three massive suitcases and all the kids crap is a 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:21.559 little bit annoying. But I guess it's been my only exercise, 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:25.200 my only working out of lifting. It's like these suitcases. 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:27.880 But I mean, we've seen it's been awesome. Like we've 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:31.720 seen a lot of cool shit. We went to Vegas, 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:37.040 we went to the Grand Canyon Arches. We stayed at 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:40.040 one of those under canvas which are like these, you know, 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:41.800 I think I've talked about them before on the Pod, 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:46.359 like glamping locations where like you stay intense, but then 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:48.440 you have like a nice bed, like a nice king 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:51.520 sized bed with like all the nice comfort and pillows 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:54.480 like a hotel, but you're still kind of sleeping outside 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:56.960 under the stars a little bit, but you have walls 0:02:57.200 --> 0:02:57.800 of canvas. 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:01.440 The Grand Canyon cool. I had been before. 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:04.760 Jared loved it and had never been and was like 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:08.239 but it was also like the first stop after Vegas. 0:03:08.280 --> 0:03:11.200 And the kids were like, it's so hot because it 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:14.400 was like, you know, one hundred something degrees. It's so hot, 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:16.960 and they don't understand what they're looking at. 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:18.359 They're like, it's a hole in the ground. 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:20.840 I mean, they got on board, but at the beginning 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:22.000 they were being fucked little shits. 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:24.680 But it was awesome. 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:26.440 The Green Canyon was great, but I would say Arches 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:28.800 for they loved even more because there's so much you 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:31.200 can climb on. You can go down into the Green 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:32.840 Canyon and everything. But obviously I'm like not going to 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:36.960 do that with little kids, so I was more Arches. 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:41.000 They loved. They loved Mount Rushmore, like it was Mount 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:43.440 Rushmore was cool. People were telling me. 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:45.240 They're like, you know, you can kind of skip Mount Rushmore. 0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:46.800 It's like not that great. I thought it was cool. 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:49.640 I really liked it. We went to Crazy Horse. Thank 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:51.800 you to the listeners. We got a lot. I got 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:54.240 a lot of amazing suggestions from listeners. We stopped in 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:56.160 the Black Hills and went to Crazy Horse thanks to 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:57.600 some of the Tommies telling me that. 0:03:57.600 --> 0:03:59.400 We should do that. I mean, did you know that 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:01.160 there's another fucking. 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:07.920 Mountain sculpture happening to honor Crazy Horse, who was Ye? 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:10.800 Yeah, because I think people don't like love you know 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:12.440 the other faces? 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:15.000 Yes, right, well the concept of their face. 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:17.240 I didn't know anything about the Crazy Horse and I 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:18.880 went and I watched the whole movie in the little 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:22.200 movie theater, and like, this man that decided to do 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:24.640 it was basically like, I'm gonna be like the only 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:26.720 good white man that has ever worked with the Native 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:27.760 American population. 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:27.960 Shit. 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:30.760 And he was like, I am going to not involve 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:33.039 government money. I'm not like and that's kind of why 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:35.080 it's not done yet, I would say, because he doesn't 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:39.960 take government money. But there's a beautiful like American Indian 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:43.800 Museum there. There's like an American Indian University, and I 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:45.719 don't know. I was like learning a lot. It's like 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:50.680 really interesting. And his whole face is already in the 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:52.400 mountain and part of his hand. It's just that the 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:54.719 sculpture itself is going to be massive, with like the 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:57.640 head of his horse his whole arm reaching out like 0:04:57.680 --> 0:04:59.880 it's a big ass sculpture. So I don't know when 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:02.440 will be done, but it's very impressive. And the guy 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:05.000 who started it, he obviously died. His sons are like 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:06.880 taking it up for him. And in the video, one 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:09.600 of the sons is like, I could just finish this 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:11.239 for my dad, and I was like crying. 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:13.280 I mean, it was like really really moving. 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:17.920 And in Lacrosse, I got so many suggestions of what 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:22.040 to do in Lacrosse, Wisconsin from the Tommies. 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:24.159 Thank you for all the recks. 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:25.919 We didn't get to do everything, but we went to 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:28.240 like the Pearl ice cream place that everybody recommended, Like 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:30.800 ten people told me about this ice cream cush Yeah, 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:33.680 Lacrosse is super cute. It's like this little college town 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:38.080 has all these cute restaurants, all these cute college town dude. 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:40.880 So I was telling my kids Oscar at one point 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:43.679 was like holding a sausage in his hand or being gross, 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:46.120 and I was like, okay, abe Frohman, the Sausage King 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:48.280 of Chicago, like, and my kids were like, what are 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:50.760 you talking about? And so I explained the whole plot 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:53.279 of Ferris Bueller to them and Rosie was like, I 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:56.840 gotta watch this. And then and then when we were 0:05:56.839 --> 0:06:00.479 in Lacrosse, we found this like eighties restaurant called like 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:03.599 the Breakfast Club, and it had a t shirt of 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:06.320 ape from and the Sausage King of Chicago. And I 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:08.039 was like, Oscar, look there it is. And so I 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:09.760 got a picture of him with it. And then when 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:12.400 we got to Chicago, we stay with my friend who 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:16.440 you know, and we she Rosie watched it with her 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:17.600 kids and she loved it. 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:20.479 One of the best. Yeah, it's the best Chicago that 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:22.119 in the Fugitive. But they're different. 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:25.560 Yes, so they carried number one again a second for 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:29.000 I didn't kill my wife for my child, but yeah, 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:30.240 like did they love it? 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:31.840 Yes, she loved it. 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:34.280 We were like quoting it like I can't believe how 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:35.320 much I know of. 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:37.200 Ferris Bueller, like quotes of it. 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:40.200 Like I kept being like, remember when the lady goes 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:42.760 geeks Let's motorheads. They all love him. They think he's 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:45.039 a righteous dude. Like I love that lady. She was 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:48.800 on Valor Hogan Family. I was like, I'm a bear. 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:51.240 It's warm and scrushy. It's been in my pocket all day. 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:54.719 Like I was just pumping out Ferris Bueller lines. I'm 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:57.039 looking at the menu at the Pearl ice Cream place. 0:06:57.200 --> 0:07:00.800 The Pearl was lying out the door. It was it 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:03.520 was it's the place to go in town. And my kids. 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:04.480 I got a milkshake. 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:09.920 My kids got delicious ice cream monster cookie. It was 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:11.000 a flavor they both got. 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:15.640 Anyway, everybody was like, wading kid wants more than like 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:19.040 a fake flavor and an off color. Yes, Like the 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:22.800 way I was rabbid for bubblegum ice cream is. 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:26.240 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I just frozen something weird. 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:28.400 It's like, I don't know why the blue in the 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:31.520 pink is just so many. 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:32.520 They love the blue because they love to go is 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:34.600 my tongue. Glue is my tonguelue, and like stick it 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:38.680 out constantly. But Lacrosse. Everybody was like why lacrosse. It's 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:41.040 so cute. It's on the Mississippi River. It was like 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:44.280 it was a sweet little town. Then I had to 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:46.400 go do laundry and lacrosse. It was amazing. I five, 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:48.360 I got a moment by myself. I went to the 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:50.680 bowling I was like so happy. I was like, sorry, Jared, 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:52.200 put the kids to bed. I gotta go do laundry. 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:54.440 Drove forever to find I went to three differ laundry mats. 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:57.120 Finally found one that was like taking change and working 0:07:57.640 --> 0:08:00.200 and uh. I went to the bowling alley next door 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:02.920 while it was well things were drying to get a 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:04.840 beer two seventy five for a bud light. I was like, 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:05.960 am I moving to lacrosse? 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:06.520 I like it. 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:11.560 Wow, it was amazing. I was like, wait, I want 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:13.560 a beer right now. I say that. 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:16.600 I know. 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:18.840 I was watching World Cup yesterday and I saw Madello 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:20.880 commercial and I was like, gimme that. 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:23.040 Honey, the way I have World Cup fever. 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:27.560 I mean it, Well, first of all, we're so late, 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:29.960 sorry about my travels. How could I have ever predicted 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:33.080 that my travels were going to coincide with one of 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:36.040 New York and Marishka's biggest moments in their lives. 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:41.280 Get into every episode. Look at that every episode, going 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:42.160 oh my god. 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:47.240 The background of Liza's phone is Taylor Swift like cradling Marishka, 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:49.360 but the one with the smile, not the William Lewis 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:53.440 one that I made. The memes memes were incredible. That's 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:55.680 not memes. I can't But was that part of your 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:57.079 laundry excursion? No? 0:08:57.280 --> 0:08:59.360 I did that? Where did I do that? 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:01.320 I think I did a before I left, or I 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:02.600 did it in the car. I don't know where I 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:03.160 did it, but I was. 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:05.360 I'm getting ahead of myself. But I am seeing Marishka 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:08.120 on Broadway this week July second, so I will report 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:11.800 next week about everything with the Broadway show. But like 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:14.920 I got when Taylor and Marishka were at that game together, 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:18.959 the mount of dms I got and texts and messages 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:21.080 and everyone. Melissa Rich was like, is that what the 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:23.360 insight of your brain looks like? At all times? I go, yeah, 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:27.640 I go one hundred percent. Yes, I was just imagining 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:31.120 and streaming. She is sixty two years old. This bitch 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:34.719 did a matinee. Did her seven o'clock show, shaved off 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:36.760 four minutes off the show. I would have been pissed 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:39.959 and sprinted ten blocks to make it. 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:42.240 Are you fucking kidding me, dude? 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:45.839 And listen one of our listeners, I'm so sorry. I 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:47.800 don't have your name, and I also didn't ask you 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:50.040 if I could say it. But one of our listeners 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:53.600 made her friendship bracelets, brought them to her at the 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:56.880 stage door at every brilliant thing, and she was wearing 0:09:56.880 --> 0:09:57.800 them at the next game. 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:01.679 She's incredible. Taylor brought her a I mean, I love 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:04.800 that so much. I mean, and then when Jalen like 0:10:04.880 --> 0:10:06.800 leaving after they won, They're like, what are you doing next? 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:09.520 He goes getting on SVU. Yes, there's no way he's not. 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:12.360 He's gonna be in an SVU. Also, me and Jalen 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:17.600 have the same birthday. Thank you very much. So Game four, 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:21.960 Game three? Yeah, Game four, I was in skokee so 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:25.520 or was that Game three? Everything is so hard? 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:25.760 Yeah? 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:25.839 No? 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:26.320 Game four. 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:29.960 Game four I was in scoche and I was in 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:31.520 group chats. I was trying to do it all, but 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:33.679 my dad was like bitching about esp I was like, 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:35.640 I'm buying ESPN and he was like, don't spend the money. 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:37.480 I'm like, I'm buying ESPN, you dumb piece of shit. 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:40.439 So obviously afterwards they're like, thank you so much, those 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:43.360 incredible sport like they loved it. We figured out Jalen 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:45.360 Brunson went to the high school where my dad was 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:48.600 a school bus driver, And so we're creating a reality 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:49.679 in our family. 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:52.840 That my dad wrote that he rode my dad's school bus. 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:57.240 Oh my god, the years co inside, the year's co inside, Like, 0:10:57.360 --> 0:10:58.559 I don't know, I don't. 0:10:58.400 --> 0:10:58.880 Know, dude. 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:01.160 I also was thinking about your dad because I saw 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:04.839 this like video on Instagram of this girl that made 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:08.040 like her mom's a cerremicist and she her daughter loves 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:09.600 her bus driver so much. And I'm talking like a 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:11.320 middle school er. This isn't like a little kid. This 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:13.559 is like a eighth grader that's like moving on and 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:15.240 it's gonna have a different bus driver, and like made 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:19.680 her her bus driver the sweetest fucking like mug pand 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:22.720 painted the bus like everything, and then they gave it 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:23.120 to him. 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:25.400 I was like crying watching the video. It was so sweet. 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:28.839 Now, I mean, Marishka and like, I you know, we 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:31.320 were talking about Jalen Brunson because my mom after the interview, 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:33.719 she just kept going, why aren't they more excited? Why 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:35.760 aren't they more excited? I go, Mom, they're fucking tired. 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:38.679 I go, they're fucking tired. And not only that, the 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:41.240 job's not done, the job's not fucking don Yeah. And 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:44.199 then I watched an interview with Marishka talking about Jalen Brunson, 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:47.000 and it was very much like, it's not about the highs, 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:49.040 it's not about the lows. It's about the work for him. 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:51.600 And I'm like, yes, that's why he's a fucking hero. 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:56.440 So being in New York City obviously electric. I mean, 0:11:56.800 --> 0:11:58.959 I can't believe that you've got the nicks. 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:01.520 You've got mom done swimming in his clothes. And when 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:03.480 it's ever end. 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:06.439 There's no end, there's no end, you know. I'm you know, 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:07.360 go Mexico. 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:09.720 And then I was performing in Houston, which is another 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:11.199 World Cup host city. 0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:13.960 Oh my uber drivers going to the game. 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:16.960 Someone came to my show whose son is a goalie, 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:19.640 was turning ten that weekend. She's surprised him with tickets. 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:21.360 He had no idea, Who's gonna go to that game 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:24.960 with Cape verdet Like it's just been New York is 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:26.959 so fucking fun. Like I had a bunch of spots 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:29.000 last night, and me and Alex English were just walking 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:32.160 in between spots and people outside the weed store had 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:34.439 a TV. We just stood with a bunch of strangers. 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:36.680 A guy left his log cart. We saw him sprinting 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:40.120 a catch Morocco tiet ran back to his car. 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:41.520 Like the city is alive. 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:43.199 When I was walking into the train, there was all 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:46.439 these people outside the bar watching and I ran into 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:50.080 two people I knew, like people are just in the fucking. 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:54.240 Yeah New York. At World Cup when I was there 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:54.719 for like a. 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:56.320 Few World Cups to go, I was up at like 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:58.160 eight in the morning drinking at a bar with people 0:12:58.200 --> 0:13:00.559 I don't watch soccer. I was just like, I'm I'm down. 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:02.800 I'm at an event today. I don't know what I'm 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:03.120 gonna do. 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:05.360 I might have to be like a bad uncle and 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:07.720 her husband and like leave leave the event. 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:09.480 Check my check my phone. 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:14.400 Well So anyway, so July second, Game five so I'm 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:17.040 Survival of the Thickest had a screening at Tribecca Film 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:19.280 Festival and just so you guys know the last season, 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:20.720 it's already on Netflix. 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:25.760 Watch it. So yeah, no July second, that yeah, wait. 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:29.040 What's July second, that's when Survival comes out. Okay, yes, 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:31.400 so a few weeks ago whenever, Game five was like 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:34.480 that day we had a screening for the final season 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:37.840 at at Tribeca, so it was cool. It was like 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:40.199 really low key, We're not having a huge premiere this year, 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:41.640 but it was like fun. I got to see a 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:44.160 bunch of people that I enjoy. We had drinks, and 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:46.600 then they had a private room dinner for us at 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:50.240 Bad Roman, which is in that funny Columbus Circle mall. 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:53.640 Yes, and I went to college with a guy who 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:55.280 has something to do with that restaurant. 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:56.720 It was delicious. 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:59.720 I hadn't had a granada before, like a crunchy ice 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:02.640 tick Heila drink the cheese cakes cigaret. I mean, I 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:05.920 was getting lit though, I'll be honest, I'm getting lit. 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:10.040 We're doing speeches. It's like it's just really really fun. 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:14.360 But so the peppermint's there. So then when the dinner's over, 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:16.080 it's like, fuck, we gotta watch the game. Where are 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:18.440 we gonna go? We go upstairs to some weird bar. 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:21.520 So I end up watching the nixt game at this 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:28.000 like luxurious giant lounge in this mall. But we're getting 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:30.160 so drunk, and then me and three actors from the 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:33.640 show and my bestie Julia, we're getting lit. The Knicks win. 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:36.840 We hit the streets. We're in Times Square, we walked 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:37.960 all the way to Times Square. 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:40.000 We're in the middle of all of it. 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:42.600 Just all the world, cut people, all the Knicks people, 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:46.640 vibes electric. And then the next day though, I'm talking 0:14:46.680 --> 0:14:48.440 to Julia and I go, oh my god, I feel 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:51.520 like the vibes were so good. I was even nice 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:54.520 to the cops, and she goes, you taunted them and 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:55.760 you were threatened with a baton. 0:14:56.200 --> 0:14:59.880 Oh I didn't remember that. Oh wow, oh wow. 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:02.000 She said there was a guy with a baton, and 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:04.280 I kept going, you really need that, you really need 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:07.160 your baton. And then I guess I was threatened, but 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:09.040 I didn't remember at all. 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:14.000 The revisionist history of the next day it is hilarious. 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:18.520 But I was just good willing it with the cops. Hardcore. No, 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:19.240 my voice was. 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:22.000 But I was also in my my like my not 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:24.240 evening wear because it was daytime event. But I was 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:27.040 like in a baby blue I did do Nicks color, 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:30.040 so I had a baby blue dress with like orange flowers, 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:32.880 not fully planned, but I leaned in. But I was 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:35.840 in formal wear. Like I wasn't formal wear new sneaker. 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:37.480 I had to be in just sucks for a while. 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:42.040 Julie ended up projectile vomiting outside my apartment. Everyone was 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:46.920 at I mean, I just I it was so fucking fun. 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:48.680 Wait who projectile momented? 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:49.440 Julia? 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:55.080 Oh no, I mean it was wine tequila mixing. It's mixing, 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:59.400 it's the mixing. But so that was like insane. The 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:01.080 next day, I body her. I didn't get out of 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:03.040 bed till like five pm, and then I think I 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:06.880 went to like I did something crazy the next day too, 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:08.480 like I had something. 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:09.760 I'm trying to look at my calendar. 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:12.200 I don't know what what is when or how like 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:15.080 I don't even I don't own nixt parade. 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:17.520 What did I have? The next day? It felt crazy? 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:21.160 Oh I went to Masquerade, an interactive Phantom of the 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:23.800 opera show. So I had to like put on a 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:29.320 lace mask and go like through a hall of Broadway, like, 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:33.080 oh my god. But I had some beers at Brooklyn Diner. 0:16:33.160 --> 0:16:35.080 The guy didn't charge me. I mean, the vibes were 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:40.800 just like so fucking good. I saw I'm a tale 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:43.720 lane make his Broadway day. Bah my god, I see 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:45.400 the clips. They look amazing. 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:46.120 Oh my god. 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:49.640 I mean I had high expectations, but they exceeded exceeded. 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:51.320 So I want to see if I can try to 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:52.520 get tickets when I'm there. 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:53.080 You can't. 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:56.200 I mean, he's that's a four week run. I'm gonna 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:58.360 go again, just because like opening nights so different. But 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:00.880 there was like thirty of us on stage afterwards, like 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:02.880 we were like it was pandemonium. 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:06.199 We all wanted Yeah it was. He killed it. He 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:07.639 killed it, he killed it, he killed it. 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:11.280 But parade day, listen, I grew up in a city 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:13.840 of champions, Like, I know what this is like. So 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:17.800 I just once I saw people were up at like 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:19.919 two three in the morning starting to try to get 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:22.760 into the parade, I go, there's no fucking way they 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:24.720 can enjoy it. I don't need to be in the parade. 0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:27.040 But of course, Julia put on an orange tube top, 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:28.439 was like, I'm gonna make it to the parade. 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:29.040 She didn't. 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:31.919 She said it felt like being third class at the Titanic. 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:34.480 Like every place you tried to go, they'd be like 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:36.280 over there, and then everyone rushing and they'd be like, 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:39.080 not here. So she called me at eight in the 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:41.040 morning and she goes, I'll be at your house in 0:17:41.119 --> 0:17:41.640 under an hour. 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:42.119 I'm walking. 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:44.480 All the trains are closed. I go, great, Oh my god. 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:47.400 She messages me. She goes, I'm downstairs. I start drinking 0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:49.480 at nine in the morning. You know, I'm starting. I'm 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:50.280 having mimosas. 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:52.760 Then we go. Was the parade like Roote? Was it 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:54.359 like on Fifth Avenue? What was it doing? 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:54.520 So? 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:57.960 No, it's I went to the ticker tape parade when 0:17:58.000 --> 0:18:01.520 the women's soccer team in the World Cup, which had 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:03.879 less people. But it's not a long route. It's just 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:07.520 like from Battery Park up Broadway to City Hall. Oh okay, 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:08.880 it's not long at all. 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:09.680 That's the thing. 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:12.680 That's such a short route to squeeze that many fucking 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:13.879 spectators in. 0:18:14.200 --> 0:18:16.320 Yeah, and you know what, I'm proud of everyone that 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:18.359 got in there. We met some of the people after 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:21.120 that got in listen. So then we go to mcswarley's, which, 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:24.960 if people don't know, is the oldest bar in New 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:29.240 York City. It is very strict. It's communal seating. They 0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:31.680 sit you and you're sitting with whoever, and they move 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:34.280 you around. It's light Ale and dark Ale. That's it, 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:37.440 and you get two cups per order. It's cash and 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:39.840 everyone from Long Island was there, so like everyone that 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:42.280 didn't get into the parade was at mcswarthy's. So we 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:44.560 got there at opening around eleven. We're with these guys. 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:47.840 I'm getting bites of liverwear sandwich. I'm tasting the homemade 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:51.960 mustard like I'm getting lit. And then we go to Swift. 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:53.600 Julie has to go to work, so she gave all 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:55.560 her employees the day off. This bitch is drinking with 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:57.960 me since nine am. Goes to work at two thirty pm. 0:18:58.040 --> 0:18:59.960 Oh my god, I of course by. 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:02.440 I'm I'm Donnie Candle. I'm drunk as fuck. 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:05.720 I end up going to my coffee shop having beers. 0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:07.520 I can't stop drinking. And then I go to a 0:19:07.560 --> 0:19:11.000 three hour play called Birthright and you can imagine what 0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:14.520 it's about. And then I had a spot that night. 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:18.280 Also, I was trying to get you to record an 0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:22.280 ad that day and you're like, I'm drunk. 0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:26.399 Yeah, I'm drunk, like I need the ad. Yeah. If 0:19:26.440 --> 0:19:28.520 you guys hear a quinn sad, that's a little off kill. 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:31.160 You should have chexted me Casey, I think me doing 0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:33.040 it from the car with my kids in the background 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:34.640 would have probably worked out. 0:19:35.280 --> 0:19:37.400 No, I did it, but I couldn't stop laughing, Like 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:39.479 I was pretty ammord. But yeah, I went to a 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:43.159 three hour play after drinking from nine am to about 0:19:43.200 --> 0:19:46.840 six thirty pm. And then yeah, I did my comedy 0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:50.280 and then I went home. But like being in the streets, 0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:54.200 everyone dressed up, everyone in good spirits, chat it. I mean, 0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:57.240 it's like what I live for, and everyone keeps riding it. Right, 0:19:57.320 --> 0:20:00.159 So now everyone's just like, let's do World Cup. We 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:02.000 got the fourth coming on. I mean, I don't see 0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:04.040 an end in sight. Also, I don't know if I 0:20:04.080 --> 0:20:07.719 share the news with everyone or it was maybe just 0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:10.400 with you guys, or it wasn't confirmed. But I am 0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:15.679 playing in the Backgammon World Championships in Monte Carlo at 0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:16.480 the end of the month. 0:20:16.680 --> 0:20:23.240 In Monte Carlo. Yes, okay, you mentioned the Championships. First 0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:25.399 of all, I thought you said you were going, but 0:20:25.480 --> 0:20:28.199 I didn't think you were playing. They waved my fees. 0:20:28.280 --> 0:20:31.159 I'm playing in the women's in the intermediate divisions. 0:20:31.640 --> 0:20:33.320 I have a book. I have to be training, but 0:20:33.400 --> 0:20:38.840 I'm trying. Fuck is happening. Wait, Monte Carlo. I'm going 0:20:38.880 --> 0:20:42.240 to Monica. I'm going to Monte Carlo is in Monaco 0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:46.040 and is like glam glamb. I'm literally reading this out 0:20:46.040 --> 0:20:47.920 loud to tell myself what it is, because I overly 0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:51.480 heard about Monte Carlo in like movies. Yeah, you're going there, 0:20:51.720 --> 0:20:53.840 how and you're gonna be there for a few days. 0:20:54.440 --> 0:20:57.720 I think it's five days, five six days, and then 0:20:57.720 --> 0:20:59.639 I mean the pictures are out of control. 0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:02.200 Yeah, I mean it's like because it's like rich, people 0:21:02.280 --> 0:21:04.600 know you're not rich, so you shouldn't try to look rich. 0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:06.760 But it's like, I just don't want to look like 0:21:06.800 --> 0:21:08.920 a peasant, Like I don't know what I'm supposed to 0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:12.440 wear in Monaco to like look kind of Okay. 0:21:12.400 --> 0:21:15.480 Well, I think before you go, you should watch. 0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:20.879 The twenty eleven movie Monte Carlo, starring Selena Gomez and 0:21:21.000 --> 0:21:23.200 Layton Measter and Katie Cassidy. 0:21:23.440 --> 0:21:25.399 I've never heard of it before. 0:21:25.000 --> 0:21:28.359 But the three girls going to Monte Carlo. 0:21:28.800 --> 0:21:30.920 Okay, so I will be playing the train. 0:21:31.240 --> 0:21:33.080 My Russian teacher is like, you need to be doing 0:21:33.080 --> 0:21:35.639 your homework. I'm still reading books. I'm trying to podca. 0:21:35.680 --> 0:21:38.800 I'm sending in auditions. I'm trying to do work. I 0:21:38.840 --> 0:21:40.520 don't know how I'm supposed to function. 0:21:40.720 --> 0:21:43.639 Wait, do you understand how this competition works in the 0:21:43.680 --> 0:21:44.480 sense that like. 0:21:44.520 --> 0:21:46.480 No, and everyone I keep telling they're like, are you good? 0:21:46.520 --> 0:21:49.920 I go not for the World Championships. 0:21:49.119 --> 0:21:50.919 But they're there. They want to shoot it. 0:21:50.960 --> 0:21:53.520 We're going to do a doc and then maybe make 0:21:53.560 --> 0:21:55.880 it into a year long journey for next year or something. 0:21:56.000 --> 0:21:59.480 We'll see like yeah, but like is it knockout? Like 0:21:59.520 --> 0:22:01.440 if you go the way over there and you lose once, 0:22:01.440 --> 0:22:03.400 are you out? Or you get to play a few times. 0:22:03.760 --> 0:22:06.680 If I lose right away, I mean, I'll be fine 0:22:06.720 --> 0:22:09.119 watching and enjoying and get okay rank. So I'm not 0:22:09.320 --> 0:22:12.240 like I think I'll be maybe sad, I don't. 0:22:12.280 --> 0:22:14.240 I don't know. I don't know how I'll feel. 0:22:14.320 --> 0:22:16.439 I again again, this is one of those moments I 0:22:16.440 --> 0:22:18.960 cannot believe. Twenty minutes into the episode, is when you 0:22:19.000 --> 0:22:22.000 decide to tell me that you're going to the backgam 0:22:22.119 --> 0:22:28.480 in World Championships to compete in Monte Carlo. That's some classic. 0:22:28.560 --> 0:22:35.240 I mean, like it's like so crazy, wow ly shit. Yeah, 0:22:35.280 --> 0:22:39.040 So my summer's just kind of insane. And I just 0:22:39.080 --> 0:22:43.720 feel more grateful than ever to be in New York City. Yeah, 0:22:43.800 --> 0:22:46.000 I've it's really been electric. 0:22:46.040 --> 0:22:49.840 Also, I did finally finish Giovanni's Room James Baldwin, and 0:22:49.880 --> 0:22:53.080 I've been reading I'll Be Gone in the Dark, Michelle 0:22:53.119 --> 0:22:56.359 McNamara's book I'm about I've read in. I mean, what 0:22:56.680 --> 0:23:00.679 a fucking writer. I mean, yeah, very impressed with her. 0:23:00.680 --> 0:23:04.200 And then I've been reading Song of Achilles, which people 0:23:04.600 --> 0:23:07.520 love my girl Gail, my other heated rivalry fanatics. She 0:23:07.560 --> 0:23:10.560 sent it to me as a gift with a bookmark 0:23:10.640 --> 0:23:14.400 that is a close up of Shane and Ilia's eyes 0:23:15.280 --> 0:23:19.760 in Glinner form. But I'm reading Song of Achilles and 0:23:19.840 --> 0:23:21.960 everywhere I read it, I get stopped by two to 0:23:22.000 --> 0:23:25.119 five people. How many times have you read it? I've 0:23:25.160 --> 0:23:27.000 read it five times. It made me cry, it destroyed me. 0:23:27.000 --> 0:23:28.560 I read it in high school. It changed my world, 0:23:28.600 --> 0:23:30.600 like people are obsessed with and I get it. I'm 0:23:30.600 --> 0:23:32.480 like very into it right now, but I am worried 0:23:32.480 --> 0:23:34.320 what's going to happen. But so I'm still trying to 0:23:34.320 --> 0:23:36.600 do an enrichment as well. But I have to train. 0:23:36.720 --> 0:23:37.919 I don't know how, I don't know what I'm going, 0:23:38.359 --> 0:23:40.400 where are you your training? You're training with the guy. 0:23:40.800 --> 0:23:42.359 I'm training with the guy. I have a meeting to 0:23:42.359 --> 0:23:43.760 I have like a three hour session tomorrow. And he 0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:45.400 sent me the book he wrote, How not to Suck 0:23:45.440 --> 0:23:46.920 Up backcam In. But it's like I want to read 0:23:46.960 --> 0:23:48.920 Song of Achilles, like I don't know what I don't know, 0:23:49.760 --> 0:23:50.919 and you know I'm getting the hack. 0:23:51.240 --> 0:23:53.399 Backam and it's not like you're like a person's not me. 0:23:53.520 --> 0:23:55.240 It's like, so you're not they're not taking somebody who's 0:23:55.240 --> 0:23:55.960 never played before. 0:23:56.000 --> 0:23:57.399 And then I felt really good because when I was 0:23:57.400 --> 0:24:01.280 home for my mom's birthday, I I beat my dad 0:24:01.320 --> 0:24:03.800 eleven zero, so it felt awesome. But then I lost 0:24:03.840 --> 0:24:06.480 to my mom the next day by a lot, so 0:24:06.520 --> 0:24:09.400 I was like, okay, like it's you know, there are 0:24:09.480 --> 0:24:13.680 things I should be learning. So no, people have been horny, 0:24:13.840 --> 0:24:15.280 people have been out people. 0:24:15.600 --> 0:24:18.719 It's been I yeah, like I've been sort of following. 0:24:18.720 --> 0:24:20.359 I mean when I was staying with my friend in Chicago, 0:24:20.400 --> 0:24:22.359 her husband is from Mexico, so like we were I. 0:24:22.359 --> 0:24:26.160 Did a book. No, that's okay. I want to let 0:24:26.160 --> 0:24:28.399 people know what I'm reading. I want people. Yeah, I 0:24:28.440 --> 0:24:33.520 haven't I haven't given up yet. Did you watch Paraguay Germany? Yesterday? 0:24:34.040 --> 0:24:35.800 In the streets on my way to my set, I 0:24:35.880 --> 0:24:36.840 just stopped at a bar. 0:24:37.000 --> 0:24:40.240 Is crazy, Like one of my good friends is from Paraguay, 0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:42.800 so I was like texting her like She's like, I've 0:24:42.840 --> 0:24:43.960 died three times this game. 0:24:44.040 --> 0:24:44.680 Like it was. 0:24:45.359 --> 0:24:46.640 Rosie was like do I have to go to bed? 0:24:46.680 --> 0:24:48.280 It was like during the shootout, I was like, Jared, 0:24:48.280 --> 0:24:50.160 I gotta let her stay up. This is crazy, Like 0:24:50.520 --> 0:24:54.400 it's so good. I mean, I love watching World Cup Morocco. 0:24:54.520 --> 0:24:58.240 Yeah, I can't wait for Kate Verde. You know, David Riskalayat. 0:24:58.280 --> 0:25:01.879 That's what I'm talking about. I'm in the Cape Verde. 0:25:01.960 --> 0:25:05.080 I do want Mexico to win it all because that'll 0:25:05.119 --> 0:25:05.840 be the best party. 0:25:06.640 --> 0:25:08.879 I mean, the fact that I'm not in La for 0:25:08.920 --> 0:25:10.800 the World Cup is a little bit of a bummer. 0:25:10.960 --> 0:25:12.680 Like everywhere I. 0:25:12.680 --> 0:25:15.240 Look, everybody's at watch parties because I like, and I 0:25:15.280 --> 0:25:16.720 live in such a Mexican neighborhood. 0:25:16.720 --> 0:25:18.080 It's like sad that I'm not there. 0:25:18.359 --> 0:25:22.920 Everyone the happy Meal toys are squashed mollows wearing soccer jerseys. 0:25:23.000 --> 0:25:25.760 So I have them. Oh I got I have the 0:25:25.800 --> 0:25:28.440 shark and the cat. I have Gordon and Cam wrote 0:25:28.720 --> 0:25:32.280 the kids. Okay, so Rosie is anemic because she doesn't 0:25:32.280 --> 0:25:33.399 eat meat, so I start. 0:25:33.520 --> 0:25:35.480 I had to tell her you have to either start. 0:25:35.240 --> 0:25:38.720 Eating meat or you have to take these iron drops 0:25:38.880 --> 0:25:41.480 in OJ and she's like try the iron drops. It 0:25:41.520 --> 0:25:43.320 was like fuck these. So now she's trying to eat 0:25:43.320 --> 0:25:45.400 a little bit of meat. So we've been easing into 0:25:45.400 --> 0:25:47.359 a couple of like nuggets and things like that on 0:25:47.400 --> 0:25:49.560 the road. So they got a happy meal and she 0:25:49.720 --> 0:25:51.919 ate the nuggets and they got the beta fish that 0:25:52.040 --> 0:25:56.720 says Balisa or it's an Italian player. It's a hot 0:25:56.760 --> 0:25:59.680 pink with a green jersey Balia, Oh my god, what's 0:25:59.680 --> 0:26:03.720 his name? But my kids have been obsessed like looking 0:26:03.720 --> 0:26:05.679 at the squashmallows at every time we stopped to use 0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:08.680 McDonald's bathrooms and they're like, look at the squashmallows, like 0:26:08.720 --> 0:26:11.800 they are loving the squashmllo World Cup. Yeah, I have 0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:13.520 the American and the Mexican. 0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:16.440 I really wanted the Mexican jersey because the guys who 0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:19.879 work at the coffee shop downstairs, like I want to 0:26:19.880 --> 0:26:23.199 party with them because when I get home late at 0:26:23.240 --> 0:26:26.880 night and there's been fun games, they they drink after work. 0:26:26.920 --> 0:26:30.000 So I run into them and I and I like. 0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:33.199 Oh, but I but I but della, butrella is what 0:26:33.240 --> 0:26:35.359 we have. It's got it's got a green jersey. On 0:26:35.480 --> 0:26:36.440 is that the Italian jersey? 0:26:36.440 --> 0:26:36.760 I don't know. 0:26:36.760 --> 0:26:39.480 The thing is hot pink and it's a bait of fish. 0:26:39.480 --> 0:26:44.000 I guess, oh, okay, you're excited for some others. They 0:26:44.160 --> 0:26:47.520 they I need to get a Avery Avery's que. What's 0:26:47.560 --> 0:26:48.280 the US one? 0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:48.679 Gordon? 0:26:48.960 --> 0:26:51.440 I think it's Gordon right the park because it looks 0:26:51.480 --> 0:26:52.520 like the American jersey. 0:26:52.600 --> 0:26:55.600 Yeah, yeah, hard to say. That's been huge. 0:26:55.720 --> 0:26:58.240 I mean, yeah, you know, I don't think I'm ever 0:26:58.280 --> 0:26:59.800 going to get into sports. But then I get the 0:26:59.840 --> 0:27:02.240 up oportunity to write one of those little poems about 0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:04.320 the Nicks, and here we are. 0:27:04.480 --> 0:27:05.280 You know, I was. 0:27:05.400 --> 0:27:08.080 I was proud of my poem. In case anybody didn't 0:27:08.160 --> 0:27:11.399 read my poem. No, the memes were incredible, but my 0:27:11.520 --> 0:27:14.320 poem was my captain is Kragan Munch is Jewish cab. 0:27:14.400 --> 0:27:15.160 It's actually alive. 0:27:15.240 --> 0:27:17.280 Nixon five and I'm glad that they actually won in 0:27:17.359 --> 0:27:18.440 five because that's the one. 0:27:19.600 --> 0:27:20.200 That's the one. 0:27:21.240 --> 0:27:25.159 No, it feels awesome, and like you know, FIFA, this 0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:29.360 the brackets that like corruption, this, the NBA, the trap, 0:27:29.400 --> 0:27:31.639 blah blah blah. The end of the day. There's just 0:27:31.680 --> 0:27:35.639 something so pure about sports. There's something so electric with 0:27:36.040 --> 0:27:40.200 down to the wire and just fucking camaraderie, like seeing 0:27:40.240 --> 0:27:45.760 the Brazil team, like supporting the Japanese players and fans 0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:50.320 that were sad, just like seeing everyone connect and be together. 0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:55.560 And it's just been awesome yesterday. And at the Cellar, 0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:57.680 it's a bunch of people here for the World Cup, 0:27:58.160 --> 0:27:59.879 so like they'll watch the game at the Olive Tree, 0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:00.640 go to the show. 0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:03.080 People are in Jersey. Oh sorry. 0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:05.840 The Houston Art Museum one of the most incredible places 0:28:05.880 --> 0:28:06.880 I've ever been in my life. 0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:09.280 I couldn't believe it. 0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:13.080 I probably was crying fully from art, like probably seven 0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:16.800 to eight times. Wow, there's a mission Stars in Houston. 0:28:17.080 --> 0:28:20.800 It's three separate buildings, all connected by tunnels. And I 0:28:20.840 --> 0:28:24.320 obviously loved like more modern art, and so I was 0:28:24.359 --> 0:28:27.040 in that modern building for every one of my favorite artists. 0:28:28.480 --> 0:28:30.240 Every time I turned a corner, I go, are you 0:28:30.400 --> 0:28:31.439 fucking kidding me? 0:28:32.119 --> 0:28:35.280 Like it was. It was glorious. 0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:37.080 And then of course I'm sitting alone at this Michelin 0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:39.719 Star restaurant and they're like, are you celebrating something. I 0:28:39.720 --> 0:28:43.160 go no, I'm wearing an athletics skirt. 0:28:43.320 --> 0:28:46.600 Like, just bring me my octopus. 0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:49.680 I took my kids to the Indianapolis Children's Museum. I 0:28:49.720 --> 0:28:53.960 didn't cry, but it was also very fun. But my 0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:57.280 kids did go swim in that They they kicked around 0:28:57.320 --> 0:28:59.800 in that water. That installation in Chicago that's near the 0:28:59.800 --> 0:29:02.240 bean in your Millennium Park, spitting the water. 0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:04.280 They love that. The bean is awesome. 0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:06.200 You know what when people are like, I don't want 0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:08.320 to be like a tourist, tourist, shit's cool. 0:29:08.480 --> 0:29:09.120 Sorry. They came. 0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:11.120 My friends that live in Chicago came with us. Their 0:29:11.160 --> 0:29:12.920 kids were like taking pictures of us that we're being 0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:16.440 so cute. All right, let's get started as always, that's 0:29:16.880 --> 0:29:20.800 I do. Has the links to our merch which you 0:29:20.840 --> 0:29:22.360 can buy are Louise Lewis. 0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:25.640 Lewis Louis Slowest. People are wearing them to my shows. 0:29:25.640 --> 0:29:28.160 Oh the reason I'm off the can Amzer Museum. Besides 0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:32.520 loving it so much, they had custom FIFA Art Museum 0:29:32.640 --> 0:29:34.000 soccer jerseys in the gift shop. 0:29:34.200 --> 0:29:37.520 Oh, like, everyone's on board. It's just so beautiful. 0:29:37.760 --> 0:29:39.760 We can also love World Cup and love soccer ball, 0:29:39.800 --> 0:29:42.000 also saying that FIFA is a shitty company by the way, 0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:42.560 just f y. 0:29:45.480 --> 0:29:49.200 And America is treating the Iranian team like there's obviously 0:29:49.280 --> 0:29:50.760 always going to be fucked up stuff. 0:29:50.800 --> 0:29:52.960 But like, I've never heard of the World Cup in 0:29:53.000 --> 0:29:54.160 my life. Let me live. I don't know. 0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:58.480 Yeah, I'm loving it. I'm loving it. I'm collecting the cups. 0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:01.160 It's four years. Where were we four years? Was it 0:30:01.240 --> 0:30:03.440 four years ago? It wasn't in America. We're just so selfish. 0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:06.280 I was in cutter maybe the one that was Waka 0:30:06.360 --> 0:30:07.480 Waka with the shakira. 0:30:07.520 --> 0:30:09.120 I remember being invested in that one. I loved in. 0:30:09.160 --> 0:30:11.120 You guess what my song was that I came out 0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:17.360 to in Houston every night, walka Walka is a monomena. 0:30:17.440 --> 0:30:20.800 And then the manager was like, oh, is there a 0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:24.120 time stamp of when you want the song to play? 0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:25.520 I go, I've never heard of my life. I'm like, 0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:27.360 World Cup fever. Play the shakira. 0:30:27.520 --> 0:30:30.440 I don't know, just play it. Oh the new World Cup. Yeah, 0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:35.520 she's she's the World Cup girl. Okay, So that's my 0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:38.000 sublive dot Com for the merch promo codes. 0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:41.000 Also are people we didn't even mention, Pride, do you 0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:42.840 understand I'm not surviving this summer? 0:30:42.840 --> 0:30:44.840 I told my mom. I go, mom, I'm not surviving. 0:30:44.720 --> 0:30:46.960 And she goes, well, as long as you're only tired 0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:49.720 from partying and nothing like harder than that, and I 0:30:49.760 --> 0:30:50.280 go all right. 0:30:51.000 --> 0:30:53.080 Pride was really uh. 0:30:53.560 --> 0:30:55.680 I didn't get to do anything cool because I was 0:30:55.760 --> 0:30:57.800 driving across the country with my kids. But it was 0:30:57.880 --> 0:31:01.080 cool to see Pride stuff out in like Sioux Falls 0:31:01.160 --> 0:31:03.280 and like towns like in more red states. 0:31:03.320 --> 0:31:04.560 Like Pride was poppin'. 0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:07.120 But also so was the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary 0:31:07.120 --> 0:31:08.880 of America, which I care less about, although we just 0:31:08.920 --> 0:31:09.480 celebrated it. 0:31:09.480 --> 0:31:12.360 I hope everybody had a nice Fourth of July today. 0:31:12.400 --> 0:31:16.080 Also, July seventh is the day Alison Leiby's book comes out. 0:31:16.640 --> 0:31:17.760 It's called I'm a Lot. 0:31:17.880 --> 0:31:21.000 Please go buy it, and if you want to listen 0:31:21.040 --> 0:31:24.320 to our interview with her, it's on our Patreon, Patreon 0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:26.560 dot com slash that's messed up. We have interview with 0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:29.440 her and it's a fun chat also about just like 0:31:29.640 --> 0:31:32.680 life and SVU and all different other things. And then 0:31:32.680 --> 0:31:35.360 we have more interviews and fun shit coming up, So 0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:37.760 get on over there. And join the Patreon. But let's 0:31:37.800 --> 0:31:40.000 get going. Today's episode a classic. 0:31:44.400 --> 0:31:49.840 Okay, we're doing savant everybody fun word fun app we 0:31:50.360 --> 0:31:52.480 I feel like we referenced this episode all the time 0:31:52.560 --> 0:31:52.920 all the. 0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:55.680 Time, because I think I always talk about it's the 0:31:55.920 --> 0:31:57.040 girl with perfect pitch. 0:31:57.480 --> 0:31:58.680 Yeah, you know that's like. 0:32:00.160 --> 0:32:04.880 Yeah, I can't wait the season nine, episode four, two 0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:07.960 thousand and seven, everybody, And we start with Aiden Quinn 0:32:07.960 --> 0:32:10.240 in the back of the cab. I know him best 0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:13.760 from Practical Magic. You might know him from season twenty 0:32:13.760 --> 0:32:15.960 three SVU, where he's a guy that like, what is it? 0:32:16.000 --> 0:32:18.680 Did he statutory rape Olivia Benson? But she still loves 0:32:18.720 --> 0:32:20.400 him and they have a weird thing like I don't 0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:21.360 even remember. 0:32:21.760 --> 0:32:23.640 Yeah, and then like she has sex with him again 0:32:23.840 --> 0:32:28.280 in like her current form and and then I think 0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:30.719 she realized. Then she hears some bad stuff about him 0:32:30.720 --> 0:32:33.000 and is like, oh, you've been like dishonest with me, 0:32:33.120 --> 0:32:35.280 And come to think of it, I think our relationship 0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:37.720 was kind of weird too when we were younger, Like 0:32:37.760 --> 0:32:39.680 I think he was a professor of hers or something. 0:32:40.160 --> 0:32:43.240 I should look into it more deeply, But that's not 0:32:43.320 --> 0:32:44.640 the character he's playing in this. 0:32:44.720 --> 0:32:44.880 Well. 0:32:44.920 --> 0:32:48.160 I did the episode and I still didn't. But also 0:32:49.000 --> 0:32:51.640 I just thought he was so famous. But I think 0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:54.560 practical Magic is just so important to me because I 0:32:54.600 --> 0:32:56.640 look through as IMDb and I go, I mean, he's 0:32:56.640 --> 0:32:58.960 a series regular and elementary and he's in Legends of 0:32:58.960 --> 0:32:59.200 the Fall. 0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:02.840 To me, he's so famous, Lisa, like he was on 0:33:02.920 --> 0:33:05.120 the wall, Like I thought he was so hot when 0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:08.200 all he was like Legends of the Fall was so 0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:10.040 we were all so obsessed with him. 0:33:10.440 --> 0:33:12.520 He was in Benny and June. I always thought he 0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:13.240 was so handsome. 0:33:13.280 --> 0:33:15.560 I mean, he's quite a bit older than me, but 0:33:15.600 --> 0:33:17.520 when I was like twelve and he was like in 0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:22.160 his thirties, I thought he was like so hot, and yeah, 0:33:22.480 --> 0:33:24.200 he's Beny and June, I thought was. 0:33:24.200 --> 0:33:26.720 A big one. I don't know. 0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:29.400 I was like always following who he was dating, like 0:33:29.560 --> 0:33:31.840 I just I don't know. 0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:32.520 I don't know. 0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:37.360 Always had always been into Aid and Quinn outspoken critic 0:33:37.400 --> 0:33:39.760 of Donald Trump. I'm seeing in in his Wikipedia. 0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:40.560 I'll take it. 0:33:40.920 --> 0:33:42.440 Yeah, I don't know, you know what now that I'm 0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:44.000 looking at it too, it's just like a few of 0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:44.560 these other ones. 0:33:44.600 --> 0:33:44.840 I think. 0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:46.920 I just always thought he was so handsome and like 0:33:46.960 --> 0:33:50.960 he really hasn't done that many movies that I've specifically seen, 0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:52.880 but a few that I have, and like a few 0:33:52.880 --> 0:33:57.320 that were that imprinted, I would say from an early time. 0:33:57.880 --> 0:34:01.800 And this is a gud McCreary episode. So Judy shout 0:34:01.800 --> 0:34:02.520 out to Judy. 0:34:03.680 --> 0:34:04.360 She gave us. 0:34:04.400 --> 0:34:06.520 I think some like anyone that talks shit on our 0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:10.520 pod and names names will for Anthony Rapp, Judy McCreary 0:34:11.560 --> 0:34:12.960 is that it might be a no. 0:34:13.080 --> 0:34:15.759 I think people said people name names off off Mike. 0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:18.719 Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I like the people being like, 0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:20.880 well yeah, and then I had to do it with 0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:23.600 a fucking limited budget and I'm like, yeah, bitch, that 0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:24.160 does suck. 0:34:24.280 --> 0:34:25.120 You know. I liked it. 0:34:25.480 --> 0:34:28.120 Anyways, it's a classic, it's a favorite. We're lucky, we're excited. 0:34:28.160 --> 0:34:30.759 Aiden Quinn is not on the podcast. Okay, so if 0:34:30.760 --> 0:34:32.960 you just if you're wondering, oh yeah, sorry, what's. 0:34:32.719 --> 0:34:35.440 Happening on the hell quickly looking into the other character 0:34:36.000 --> 0:34:39.680 they met when she was sixteen and he was twenty one, and. 0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:47.960 Yeah, yeah, so not great, o great, but yeah we're here. 0:34:47.960 --> 0:34:49.080 This episode's even worse. 0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:51.440 Okay, so not with him, just in general, well, we 0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:53.520 don't know if he did it or not okay, chatty 0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:57.879 Kathy driver. He's in a cab and the cab driver 0:34:58.000 --> 0:34:59.920 is bitching. He's like, oh, me and my old lady 0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:03.040 and we had some real blowouts, nothing too physical, but 0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:06.480 I do wish she would just die. So I just 0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:12.839 I don't get culture like why. I guess men got 0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:15.239 a lot out of it. It's just like, why was 0:35:15.280 --> 0:35:18.040 the foundation of so much of life, like marry this 0:35:18.120 --> 0:35:20.520 person and no matter how miserable and awful it is, 0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:24.160 stay Like why would that be the theory that most 0:35:24.280 --> 0:35:26.240 people build their lives around. 0:35:26.800 --> 0:35:30.040 And it was also like it also felt like back 0:35:30.080 --> 0:35:32.479 in the day, that's like what men talked about because 0:35:32.480 --> 0:35:34.520 it wasn't like they were all watching sports on cable, 0:35:34.560 --> 0:35:36.719 like the same sports always, so I think it would 0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:39.040 just be like Archie Bunker type shit where you'd be like, oh, 0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:41.640 my old lady, you know, like that's kind of how 0:35:41.719 --> 0:35:44.640 men would maybe relate to each other, like, you know, 0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:46.880 because it wasn't like if you lived outside of New York, 0:35:46.920 --> 0:35:50.080 you probably weren't watching the Yankees back at a certain time, 0:35:50.400 --> 0:35:52.359 and it just became this cultural thing to be like, 0:35:53.080 --> 0:35:55.000 you know what I can I can talk shit on 0:35:55.120 --> 0:35:55.960 is my old lady. 0:35:56.280 --> 0:35:59.280 But why is but like that's what I'm confused. 0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:02.319 Yeah, it's right, you know, it's like religion or like 0:36:02.400 --> 0:36:05.400 people needed protection or something about working the fields. Like 0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:08.080 I don't know, but I'm just saying it's such a 0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:11.279 weird thing to build so much of life upon, Like 0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:11.880 I don't know. 0:36:11.920 --> 0:36:13.000 When I was growing up. 0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:15.520 One of my best friends, like her parents wouldn't acknowledge 0:36:15.520 --> 0:36:18.799 each other fully lived on different floors. Like oh and 0:36:18.840 --> 0:36:20.720 they could, and that's that and they're still together. 0:36:21.440 --> 0:36:23.920 That's crazy. I mean they would they would drive to 0:36:24.040 --> 0:36:27.600 church separately. I would not acknowledge it. Like we've talked 0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:31.560 about this before, like sometimes divorce is expensive. Sometimes women 0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:33.719 were set up to a point where they couldn't get 0:36:33.719 --> 0:36:35.400 credit cards to the seventies. If you were to get 0:36:35.440 --> 0:36:37.239 divorced and your parents were dead, where the hell were 0:36:37.239 --> 0:36:37.880 you even gonna go? 0:36:38.160 --> 0:36:38.279 No? 0:36:38.360 --> 0:36:41.759 But I know, but that's my question, Like why was 0:36:41.800 --> 0:36:42.799 it set up this world? 0:36:42.880 --> 0:36:43.080 Yeah? 0:36:43.160 --> 0:36:45.399 For what I mean, like why didn't everyone get around 0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:47.480 and be like, wait, maybe we could just like have 0:36:47.600 --> 0:36:50.360 a good time, Like we're the first generation that's like, 0:36:50.400 --> 0:36:53.439 maybe we can have a good time. Like I don't 0:36:53.440 --> 0:36:58.799 think any generation before ours fully like countercultures, subcultures did, 0:36:59.600 --> 0:37:01.560 but this is the first time I think culturally people 0:37:01.560 --> 0:37:03.680 are like, oh, I don't want to be miserable forever. 0:37:03.960 --> 0:37:06.799 Yeah, is a national hierarchy of needs. 0:37:06.800 --> 0:37:09.120 I mean, if I knew my partner was talking to 0:37:09.160 --> 0:37:11.319 a stranger going, I didn't I've never hit her, but 0:37:11.360 --> 0:37:12.960 I'd be glad she's dead. 0:37:13.600 --> 0:37:14.839 I know I was saving. 0:37:15.440 --> 0:37:19.480 Like, like, have you seen that that clip that I'm 0:37:19.480 --> 0:37:21.560 sure you have that's been going around that's from Search 0:37:21.640 --> 0:37:25.279 Party of John Early going his character being like I 0:37:25.440 --> 0:37:27.520 don't want to work. I don't like the way it feels, 0:37:27.680 --> 0:37:29.279 I don't want to do it. I just never want 0:37:29.280 --> 0:37:31.200 to do it again. And I'm just saying that right now, 0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:34.920 Like it's funny, like it's a generation. It's it's definitely 0:37:34.920 --> 0:37:38.919 an exaggeration, but it's like talking about the youth more 0:37:39.239 --> 0:37:42.080 our generation, millennials and the generations behind us are like 0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:46.400 more like, yeah, I don't really very very Kim Katrol. 0:37:46.480 --> 0:37:48.640 I don't want to spend one second of a day 0:37:48.880 --> 0:37:51.840 doing something when I'm not enjoying myself, right, Yeah, but 0:37:53.120 --> 0:37:55.720 that acts like that, I go, you know, what things 0:37:55.760 --> 0:37:56.720 you do actually matter? 0:37:56.840 --> 0:38:00.360 And you're you know, you're affecting people. So I don't know. 0:38:02.480 --> 0:38:03.000 I don't know. 0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:06.200 Yeah, this guy hates his wife and as, but so 0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:08.880 does aid and Quinn because no, Aidan says, I know 0:38:08.920 --> 0:38:09.400 the feeling. 0:38:10.680 --> 0:38:12.759 And but then he tells the driver to shut up. 0:38:12.800 --> 0:38:13.800 He goes, shut up. 0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:16.719 That kind of res I feel like he was speaking. 0:38:16.360 --> 0:38:19.080 For a lot of people. He goes, will you just 0:38:19.320 --> 0:38:20.200 shut up? 0:38:20.360 --> 0:38:22.400 Like so many people sometimes feel that way when they 0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:25.000 have like a cab driver, an uber driver. That's just 0:38:25.040 --> 0:38:28.560 like life storying it a little bit, you know. Yeah, 0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:30.600 he's just like me too, stop it. 0:38:30.719 --> 0:38:32.959 And then but then the cab driver goes, I'm sick 0:38:33.000 --> 0:38:37.080 of circling your block, so we get and then he 0:38:37.080 --> 0:38:39.799 throws two hundred more dollars cash at him and goes 0:38:39.920 --> 0:38:43.920 keep driving. So obviously something is afoot. And then a 0:38:43.960 --> 0:38:47.120 young girl covered in blood in a white nightgown jumps 0:38:47.160 --> 0:38:50.160 in front of the car. He almost hits her. Everyone's screaming, 0:38:50.200 --> 0:38:51.600 but then aid and Quinn in the back of the 0:38:51.640 --> 0:38:54.400 cab goes Katie, and he runs out to Hugger and 0:38:54.400 --> 0:38:56.759 asks if she's okay and calls her sweet her, but 0:38:56.840 --> 0:38:59.399 the driver is calling her a moron, So you might 0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:01.560 just hate all women of all ages married to him 0:39:01.680 --> 0:39:04.480 or not. Yeah, because it's like, I know it's annoying, 0:39:04.600 --> 0:39:07.880 but like this girl is covered in blood in the 0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:09.600 middle of the night, Like I don't know if she's 0:39:09.800 --> 0:39:15.920 more Yeah, this guy, it's crazy, you know, But I 0:39:15.960 --> 0:39:18.399 miss cab drivers like this. The last two cabs I've 0:39:18.400 --> 0:39:20.839 been in, they're like, what's your address and they're putting 0:39:20.840 --> 0:39:22.920 it in a phone, and it's like, I don't. You 0:39:22.960 --> 0:39:26.880 can't do that in a yellow to me. You should know, 0:39:27.320 --> 0:39:30.160 like I would rather someone want to kill their wife 0:39:30.200 --> 0:39:32.120 and nowhere to go without me having to type in 0:39:32.160 --> 0:39:32.720 an address. 0:39:33.040 --> 0:39:34.640 Oh, I never give them my address. I would say 0:39:34.680 --> 0:39:36.239 the corner and then I'd be like keep going and 0:39:36.320 --> 0:39:39.000 keep going. Yeah, of course, but that's a that's a 0:39:39.040 --> 0:39:39.880 long gone time. 0:39:40.520 --> 0:39:44.080 Yeah, because I've had two cabs this last week where 0:39:44.120 --> 0:39:45.840 both of them gave me their phone and were like, 0:39:45.840 --> 0:39:48.920 put in the address, and it's like, no, I'm wanting 0:39:48.960 --> 0:39:51.479 a different experience. And then one I was going from 0:39:51.680 --> 0:39:55.200 second and twenty fourth to fourth and second, which is 0:39:55.239 --> 0:39:57.120 a straight shot, and he goes put it in. 0:39:57.520 --> 0:40:00.239 I go go straight twenty blocks? Are you kidding me? 0:40:01.640 --> 0:40:05.319 Like, like, I don't know, I don't know damn. 0:40:05.440 --> 0:40:07.279 I mean maybe they do it for traffic because like 0:40:07.360 --> 0:40:09.399 Google Maps tells you traffic in a way that cab 0:40:09.480 --> 0:40:12.239 drivers can't like know what's happening with the traffic. No. 0:40:12.400 --> 0:40:14.560 I had a driver in like twenty fifteen that I 0:40:14.600 --> 0:40:16.640 still think about where I started being like I was 0:40:16.640 --> 0:40:17.600 like Bushwick and Ainsli. 0:40:17.640 --> 0:40:18.160 It's he goes. 0:40:18.200 --> 0:40:20.399 I know where that is, and I should have gotten 0:40:20.400 --> 0:40:22.040 his number and been hiring him this whole time. 0:40:22.120 --> 0:40:24.120 I think about him all the time. I think about 0:40:24.200 --> 0:40:24.879 him all the time. 0:40:28.200 --> 0:40:30.280 Well whatever, So we're at the nine one one operator 0:40:30.560 --> 0:40:33.120 there's talking, she's hold and then like through the phone 0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:36.520 because this girl Katie's holding a cordless phone, and you 0:40:36.520 --> 0:40:38.319 know the dad I had in Quinn's screaming, and then 0:40:38.360 --> 0:40:41.200 the call the nine one one operators like crank calls 0:40:41.200 --> 0:40:44.520 are against the law, and I mean all of. 0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:45.799 This sounds really real to me. 0:40:47.160 --> 0:40:49.360 And then Aiden goes into the phone and he's like, 0:40:49.400 --> 0:40:52.160 my daughter is covered in blood and he's gonna and 0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:55.400 so they're gonna send someone over now, Aiden, I should 0:40:55.400 --> 0:40:56.440 I call him his character name? 0:40:56.480 --> 0:40:56.879 I don't care. 0:40:56.960 --> 0:41:00.840 So Quinn boy walks in also, well, Aden, and I 0:41:00.840 --> 0:41:02.719 didn't realize was a real name tell sex in the city. 0:41:02.760 --> 0:41:05.319 But this guy's older, so yeah, predates. 0:41:05.920 --> 0:41:08.800 So walks in asking for Karen, and then the blood 0:41:08.840 --> 0:41:11.200 girl calls him dad, so now we know that's his daughter. 0:41:11.920 --> 0:41:14.120 She stands in the doorway, he hushes her and then 0:41:14.160 --> 0:41:16.080 he sees the mom bleeding out from her head on 0:41:16.120 --> 0:41:19.120 the floor, and immediately we have Judith Ciper and Fin 0:41:19.200 --> 0:41:22.239 Tutuola and he's like, damn heard the vic got her 0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:24.600 head bashed in. But there's no fourth century. It's not 0:41:24.640 --> 0:41:26.960 a home invasion, like nothing's missing. So it's like, what's 0:41:26.960 --> 0:41:29.680 going on? Like Finn is annoyed he's here, and and 0:41:29.800 --> 0:41:31.239 Judith is like, no, no, no, there's a rape. 0:41:31.280 --> 0:41:31.839 There's a rape. 0:41:31.880 --> 0:41:34.680 So they do the lights and they black light. There's 0:41:34.719 --> 0:41:37.919 semen everywhere. So then Benson and Stable is that merch. 0:41:38.200 --> 0:41:42.480 There's semen everywhere everywhere. Benson and Stable are in the 0:41:42.520 --> 0:41:45.400 hospital while Karen is in surgery, and they ask what 0:41:45.640 --> 0:41:49.920 I think is Karen? Yeah, for sure, and it's Parana. 0:41:51.040 --> 0:41:54.680 I was like, who's Karen? You know it's spelt that 0:41:54.719 --> 0:41:55.319 way for sure? 0:41:55.360 --> 0:41:58.319 For sure. So then we hear a Katie go, what's 0:41:58.320 --> 0:41:59.280 a rape kit? Dad? 0:41:59.480 --> 0:42:03.319 So that's like a lesson. Katie runs up and she 0:42:03.360 --> 0:42:05.840 has big glasses and is super friendly. She's like so 0:42:06.000 --> 0:42:09.720 fucking cute, and she's like, Hi, what's your name? Oh hi, Elliott, 0:42:09.719 --> 0:42:12.160 you look upset. You need a hug, and she hugs 0:42:12.160 --> 0:42:14.719 Elliott and there's dramatic music and then Aiden Quinn's like, 0:42:14.760 --> 0:42:17.480 get come over here, and Stabler's suspicious. 0:42:17.480 --> 0:42:18.279 He doesn't like it. 0:42:18.360 --> 0:42:20.600 There's a smirk like because I get it, Like if 0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:23.520 you're it's like Hayden Penitare in that season two episode. 0:42:23.520 --> 0:42:25.400 It's like something's going on if you're looking for so 0:42:25.480 --> 0:42:28.120 much affection from strangers, I guess. So we're off to 0:42:28.160 --> 0:42:30.920 the credits and then we're at the precinct and it's 0:42:31.280 --> 0:42:35.040 it's a lake episode. So it's lake Finn and Munch 0:42:35.160 --> 0:42:36.840 and they're trying to work, and Katie walks up to 0:42:36.920 --> 0:42:39.360 Munch and goes some people think I'm an elf, but 0:42:39.440 --> 0:42:41.879 I'm not. And then she only has one point ear 0:42:42.080 --> 0:42:44.359 not to and she wants a hug from Munch too, 0:42:44.400 --> 0:42:46.280 and he goes, no, I'm a stranger, and she says 0:42:46.320 --> 0:42:48.719 okay bye and walks away, and then she goes and 0:42:48.800 --> 0:42:52.600 runs her fingers through Finn's ponytail and I am just 0:42:52.719 --> 0:42:55.640 upset because it's like, you're not supposed to such black 0:42:55.640 --> 0:43:00.120 people's hair in general, but like also Fintutuola especially so 0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:01.839 you shouldn't touch white people, say like, you shouldn't touch 0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:04.680 anyone's here, but it just happens to black people too much. 0:43:04.880 --> 0:43:08.280 Guys like I love this kid to just grab Finn's 0:43:08.280 --> 0:43:10.839 ponytail and start twirtling with it. It's just like one 0:43:10.880 --> 0:43:12.759 of my favorite things I've never noticed in the show 0:43:12.840 --> 0:43:16.680 until this rewatch. And he doesn't like it, and so 0:43:16.719 --> 0:43:18.760 she's like, are you mad at me? And Munch's like, babe, 0:43:19.080 --> 0:43:21.880 like we're all strangers. Okay, we're all strangers, Like you 0:43:21.960 --> 0:43:24.920 gotta stop. But then you know, everyone smiles at her 0:43:24.960 --> 0:43:26.640 and they have a sweet moment and everyone loves her. 0:43:27.000 --> 0:43:29.480 So Craigan is spying in the dark through the blinds 0:43:29.600 --> 0:43:31.759 and he Benson and Stable are with him, and he 0:43:31.800 --> 0:43:35.239 just goes, what's wrong with her? And what's wrong with 0:43:35.280 --> 0:43:38.919 her is she has something called Williams syndrome, which I'm sure, Kara, 0:43:39.000 --> 0:43:40.520 are you doing later or. 0:43:40.480 --> 0:43:42.440 No, no, because they kind of talk about it in 0:43:42.480 --> 0:43:44.120 the episode, but I did look up some of it. 0:43:44.160 --> 0:43:45.600 If you want me to talk about it here. 0:43:45.719 --> 0:43:48.440 But what I think is interesting is that this little 0:43:48.440 --> 0:43:52.320 girl actress does not have it. She's wearing fake teeth, 0:43:53.160 --> 0:43:57.040 and she's been in another episode, Wait which episode she 0:43:57.200 --> 0:44:00.759 was in Serendipity The Honey the Honey Rape. Was she 0:44:00.840 --> 0:44:02.799 one of the victims, Yes, she's one of the little 0:44:02.800 --> 0:44:08.480 girls WHOA Yeah, So she's been in two episodes of 0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:12.839 SVU and two episodes one of Criminal Intent and one 0:44:12.880 --> 0:44:14.640 of Original Recipe. 0:44:14.960 --> 0:44:16.839 And she's super cute. But she's wearing like. 0:44:16.840 --> 0:44:20.279 Prosthetic, like a teeth implant thing here too, because what 0:44:20.360 --> 0:44:23.560 I read about Williams syndrome is it causes a few 0:44:24.719 --> 0:44:28.440 facial differences like in the chin and round her cheeks 0:44:28.480 --> 0:44:30.520 and protruding teeth a little bit. And then I think 0:44:30.680 --> 0:44:35.120 sometimes various genetic disorders you can see the differences in ears, 0:44:35.560 --> 0:44:38.360 and william syndrome is literally like the result of just 0:44:38.480 --> 0:44:43.279 missing a few genes on one like arm of a chromosome. 0:44:43.440 --> 0:44:47.359 So it's it's really rare. Wow. 0:44:47.680 --> 0:44:49.520 And I bet that she like kind of crushed it 0:44:49.520 --> 0:44:51.360 in Serendipity, so they're like, we got to bring this 0:44:51.440 --> 0:44:51.960 girl back. 0:44:52.480 --> 0:44:54.759 Let's get this going. But I don't think she acts 0:44:54.840 --> 0:44:56.200 much very much anymore. 0:44:56.760 --> 0:44:57.359 I mean for her. 0:44:57.360 --> 0:45:00.799 IMDb says, she does that show what would you do? Sometimes? 0:45:01.000 --> 0:45:01.719 But that's. 0:45:02.960 --> 0:45:04.879 Yeah, she does kill it. I mean, this is one 0:45:04.880 --> 0:45:06.960 of the classic episodes. But I also love that, like 0:45:07.000 --> 0:45:09.680 Craigan becomes a full boomer. If anyone has special needs, 0:45:10.120 --> 0:45:14.000 if there's any disability, it's like, is any slow and stupid? 0:45:14.040 --> 0:45:15.320 What do we do on trial? 0:45:15.520 --> 0:45:20.440 Like he's just never okay with any differences totally. So 0:45:20.480 --> 0:45:22.520 the dad told them, like, be patient with her, she 0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:25.279 is special and Craigan thinks if the two of them 0:45:25.280 --> 0:45:27.920 are there together, they'll get more stuff done. So the 0:45:28.000 --> 0:45:30.480 dad's being super nice and encouraging Katie to talk, and 0:45:30.480 --> 0:45:33.040 they're in the kid toy room and Benson his short 0:45:33.120 --> 0:45:36.120 hair don't care vibes with a swoop bang. You forget 0:45:36.160 --> 0:45:38.640 that she has short hair again, you know what I mean? 0:45:40.040 --> 0:45:42.840 You forget or iet at least. Oh, and obviously with 0:45:42.840 --> 0:45:46.000 William syndrome, it's like, clearly this is a Neil Bear episode, 0:45:46.200 --> 0:45:49.279 like whenever, it's so specific, it's like this, this is 0:45:49.320 --> 0:45:51.680 our guy. So she's scared, but she is going to 0:45:51.719 --> 0:45:53.799 talk and she says that they were yelling and she 0:45:53.840 --> 0:45:56.719 covers her ears. She's like too loud, so she hid 0:45:56.800 --> 0:45:58.719 under her bed and then she said, she you know, 0:45:58.840 --> 0:46:00.919 is quiet, and then shared foot and went and found 0:46:00.920 --> 0:46:02.840 her mom, and the mom was bleeding out, so she 0:46:02.920 --> 0:46:04.719 took the phone even though she's not allowed to, but 0:46:04.760 --> 0:46:05.759 it was an emergency. 0:46:05.840 --> 0:46:07.080 And then the dad came home and he. 0:46:07.080 --> 0:46:09.759 Was gone a long time, and then she goes the end, 0:46:10.800 --> 0:46:12.840 and then so we find out about him. He's a 0:46:12.840 --> 0:46:15.560 project manager for a biotech company and he does travel 0:46:15.600 --> 0:46:18.920 a lot, and the family always drives him to the airport. 0:46:19.520 --> 0:46:21.720 It's her, it's his turn to talk, so he sends 0:46:21.719 --> 0:46:24.440 her to explore and basically they're like, why were you 0:46:24.520 --> 0:46:26.239 driving around the block, Like what's going on? He says, 0:46:26.280 --> 0:46:28.920 I'm buying time for the inevitable fight that was going 0:46:28.960 --> 0:46:31.760 to happen about my long trips and how she feels 0:46:31.800 --> 0:46:35.040 like a single parent, and so then they're like okay, 0:46:35.080 --> 0:46:36.040 so then who did this? 0:46:36.239 --> 0:46:37.280 Like who has a grudge? 0:46:37.560 --> 0:46:39.280 And he goes, we don't really hang out with anybody 0:46:39.360 --> 0:46:42.400 except for other parents in a support group that like 0:46:42.480 --> 0:46:44.760 deal with you know, like that have kids with special needs. 0:46:45.200 --> 0:46:47.480 And then Katie also she had like a giant cardiac 0:46:47.480 --> 0:46:49.799 surgery six months ago, so like they're just they're not 0:46:49.840 --> 0:46:52.920 really going out. But there has been tension in the 0:46:52.920 --> 0:46:57.080 therapy group because they are filing a wrongful suit. I 0:46:57.080 --> 0:47:01.400 wrote wrongful birthday suit. It's wrongful birth suit against doctor 0:47:01.520 --> 0:47:05.120 Gerald Morgan. And he's like a very popular doctor in 0:47:05.160 --> 0:47:08.000 the community, so everyone's mad because if he wins, he'll 0:47:08.000 --> 0:47:10.800 lose his insurance and then closes practice and other parents 0:47:10.840 --> 0:47:13.400 don't like that. So Benson and Stable are now dilly 0:47:13.440 --> 0:47:16.200 dallying at the Center precinct and Craigan asks like, do 0:47:16.239 --> 0:47:17.719 you think it's the husband, and they're like, well, he's 0:47:17.719 --> 0:47:20.759 obviously a suspect, but he was out of town. So 0:47:20.840 --> 0:47:23.160 let's like check flights and the group's therapy couples and 0:47:23.160 --> 0:47:24.960 see what's up. Like, I'm sure someone will talk shit 0:47:24.960 --> 0:47:27.480 about them. So we're at the Center and it's the 0:47:27.560 --> 0:47:30.640 fucking woman I saw at the bar that I couldn't place, 0:47:31.239 --> 0:47:33.319 the brown, curly haired girl where I'm like, I was 0:47:33.320 --> 0:47:34.920 at Swift and I was looking and I was looking 0:47:35.000 --> 0:47:38.360 up like all like, lawyer, is she a judge? 0:47:38.920 --> 0:47:41.320 It's fucking her, Geraldine Hughes. 0:47:41.440 --> 0:47:43.480 She was born in Belfast, so of course she's at 0:47:43.520 --> 0:47:46.759 the fucking Irish pub having a nice skinness with her 0:47:46.760 --> 0:47:48.640 friends and it's fucking her. 0:47:49.320 --> 0:47:50.800 How did you clock this woman? 0:47:50.960 --> 0:47:55.040 She's only in this episode and one other call reason 0:47:55.120 --> 0:47:56.319 that I don't even know. 0:47:56.400 --> 0:47:58.080 I wrote, I mean for me to remember her from 0:47:58.120 --> 0:48:00.600 these two tiny parts, because she's in a another episodes 0:48:00.600 --> 0:48:02.719 of nineteen no good reason, which I don't even remember. Yeah, 0:48:02.719 --> 0:48:04.719 that's what I'm saying. Yeah, And then I wrote, no 0:48:04.800 --> 0:48:07.160 wonder I couldn't find her online. I assumed it was 0:48:07.200 --> 0:48:10.000 a recurring role, and no, this is the woman that 0:48:10.080 --> 0:48:11.600 I saw that. I was like, that's an s Tobu 0:48:11.640 --> 0:48:13.520 woman and I need to and I clocked her and 0:48:13.560 --> 0:48:18.440 it's her. That's actually so crazy. Well, I'm just lucky 0:48:18.440 --> 0:48:19.640 we finally got like we did this. 0:48:20.000 --> 0:48:22.680 You. I wish there was a camera on me when 0:48:22.680 --> 0:48:25.680 I saw her walk onto the screen and you were 0:48:25.719 --> 0:48:27.680 texting us, and I'm like, in a million years, I 0:48:27.719 --> 0:48:28.800 couldn't have guessed this person. 0:48:28.920 --> 0:48:31.600 She's in two rare like Savanta Paintic episode but I 0:48:31.600 --> 0:48:33.640 don't even like really remember her part that well. And 0:48:33.719 --> 0:48:38.640 like you know that just a mom and a grief group. Yeah, 0:48:38.760 --> 0:48:43.719 this is her though you people have SVU face. Yeah, 0:48:43.760 --> 0:48:45.600 and I'm sure she's like a theater woman, you know, 0:48:45.760 --> 0:48:49.880 but like the fact that I knew immediately to the 0:48:49.880 --> 0:48:52.920 point where I assumed she must have been a defense attorney. 0:48:53.880 --> 0:48:55.200 Nope, so crazy. 0:48:55.640 --> 0:48:58.319 So she's being a bitch to a blonde man who 0:48:58.440 --> 0:49:01.760 was just in the campus rape episode. Remember I said, 0:49:02.160 --> 0:49:05.960 one of the rapists in what is a devastating story, 0:49:06.040 --> 0:49:08.239 I said, is in this episode. So it's him and 0:49:08.280 --> 0:49:12.759 they're having like a teen mom fights classic, you know, you. 0:49:12.680 --> 0:49:13.120 Know what I mean. 0:49:13.200 --> 0:49:14.640 He was just like the blonde one in the Raye 0:49:14.640 --> 0:49:18.719 Poppin House. So he just has longer hair here. And 0:49:18.760 --> 0:49:21.200 I didn't write his name. I was obviously still really 0:49:21.280 --> 0:49:24.960 like floating from seeing the woman from the bar, so 0:49:25.760 --> 0:49:27.560 you know, it's just like a normal teen attitude, and 0:49:27.560 --> 0:49:29.080 the mom's like, shut up. So then we cut to 0:49:29.120 --> 0:49:31.920 a different couple and they're talking about their child with 0:49:32.040 --> 0:49:36.719 Down syndrome, and the dad's a surgeon, so he's like, 0:49:36.719 --> 0:49:39.880 oh god, everyone's so fucking litigious, and he's taking the 0:49:39.920 --> 0:49:42.680 doctor's side. And then it cuts back to my best 0:49:42.719 --> 0:49:46.399 friend and her husband is an sv repeat guest as well. 0:49:46.800 --> 0:49:50.759 Robert Clawhassey. He's in four episodes. He's seasoned one, Bad 0:49:50.760 --> 0:49:54.600 Blood Season three, Prodigy and season fourteen Girl Dishonored. I 0:49:54.680 --> 0:49:57.000 of course remember him from thirty eight episodes of OZ. 0:49:57.640 --> 0:50:01.160 So they talk about how but his face is like 0:50:01.280 --> 0:50:04.680 you know that face, Like he is classic SVU face. 0:50:04.520 --> 0:50:08.640 Too, totally, he's so SVU face. They talk about how. 0:50:08.560 --> 0:50:11.239 It fucks up marriages and it's like really hard to 0:50:11.280 --> 0:50:14.480 deal with, like it puts strains on couples, Like I 0:50:14.480 --> 0:50:17.000 don't think that's like obvious to me. I feel like 0:50:17.120 --> 0:50:21.120 just having a kid without like special needs put strain 0:50:21.200 --> 0:50:24.080 on couple. Yeah, I can't imagine then having to deal 0:50:24.120 --> 0:50:28.160 with like a whole new system, whole new issues, unrelatability, 0:50:28.239 --> 0:50:31.400 like your expectations, I mean. 0:50:31.680 --> 0:50:34.960 Having to like navigate like the school system and advocate 0:50:34.960 --> 0:50:36.759 for It's like that sounds like a so much. 0:50:36.840 --> 0:50:41.480 Yeah, and how your kid is treated and yeah yeah. 0:50:41.520 --> 0:50:44.600 So so then they talk to another woman and there 0:50:44.880 --> 0:50:48.960 she's explaining that Aiden Quinn and Krinne separated but then 0:50:49.000 --> 0:50:52.400 got back together a few months ago, and Stabler asks 0:50:52.440 --> 0:50:54.279 how she feels about the lawsuit and she's like, listen, 0:50:54.360 --> 0:50:57.160 I fucking get it. I asked them to check for everything, 0:50:57.200 --> 0:51:00.399 and my kid's disease wasn't on the panel. It is 0:51:00.480 --> 0:51:02.799 now though, but like now my kid has this like 0:51:02.880 --> 0:51:04.680 terrible disease that wasn't checked for. 0:51:05.120 --> 0:51:06.960 So Benson and s Taylor are you can't, like I 0:51:07.040 --> 0:51:09.840 mean a lot of times like you can't. Some genetic 0:51:09.840 --> 0:51:11.960 disorders are so rare, like fifty people in the world 0:51:12.000 --> 0:51:15.680 have them, like their Denovo Janes, like is what it's called. 0:51:15.800 --> 0:51:19.319 And you can't just even the panel that tests for 0:51:19.320 --> 0:51:21.640 two hundred things, like you can't test for those, you know, 0:51:21.880 --> 0:51:25.560 So it does just things just do happen, So you 0:51:25.600 --> 0:51:29.080 can't always like suit sue a hospital or a doctor, 0:51:29.120 --> 0:51:29.319 you know. 0:51:29.719 --> 0:51:30.480 Yeah. 0:51:30.680 --> 0:51:33.399 So Benson and Taylor are trying to figure it out 0:51:33.440 --> 0:51:36.200 in a street walk and talk like wait, so if 0:51:36.239 --> 0:51:38.799 they just got back together, why was he like trying 0:51:38.800 --> 0:51:39.640 to avoid a fight. 0:51:41.360 --> 0:51:41.600 Yeah. 0:51:41.640 --> 0:51:44.239 So Saylor steps walking and just starts staring off and 0:51:44.320 --> 0:51:47.239 basically Kathy is pregnant right now, so he's like, fuck, 0:51:47.280 --> 0:51:49.320 she's over forty having a baby and getting kind of 0:51:49.320 --> 0:51:52.160 freaked out with this case and what's gonna happen? And 0:51:52.239 --> 0:51:54.720 Benson asked why they won't see a doctor, and obviously 0:51:54.760 --> 0:51:57.480 it's because he's Catholic, so they're not. They're they're like, 0:51:58.120 --> 0:51:58.799 I guess. 0:51:58.600 --> 0:52:02.000 What Catholics don't go to in the year two thousand something, 0:52:02.040 --> 0:52:06.200 nobody wouldn't. He wouldn't abort. So oh oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh. 0:52:06.239 --> 0:52:08.239 He says, we're Catholic. That's right. I remember this part. 0:52:08.280 --> 0:52:10.440 He goes, we're Catholic, so what does it matter, like 0:52:10.480 --> 0:52:14.080 even if we find something out, Yeah, so you know, 0:52:15.040 --> 0:52:17.239 but which is so crazy to be Like if a 0:52:17.239 --> 0:52:20.279 doctor told you, actually, this kid will know nothing but pain, 0:52:20.640 --> 0:52:23.239 he will he or she will live for twenty four hours, 0:52:23.640 --> 0:52:25.880 Like the best case scenario would be for you to 0:52:25.920 --> 0:52:26.720 abord the pregnancy. 0:52:26.760 --> 0:52:30.400 He's like, sorry, Catholic, you know they'll love to suffer. 0:52:30.560 --> 0:52:32.960 That's my theory why Ireland doesn't have more hot tubs, 0:52:32.960 --> 0:52:35.719 because that's like something I'm really passionate about because it's 0:52:35.760 --> 0:52:37.920 perfect hot tub weather. It's the only thing that can 0:52:38.000 --> 0:52:41.839 make that country better. And I think it's the Catholicism. 0:52:42.040 --> 0:52:43.200 Is the hot tubs. 0:52:43.520 --> 0:52:45.239 Yeah, I think like they don't like their bodies or 0:52:45.280 --> 0:52:47.640 pleasure like being in warm But to me, I'm like, 0:52:48.000 --> 0:52:50.200 it's like perfect hot tub weather, like to be in 0:52:50.239 --> 0:52:54.040 the green mouinlair, warm water. 0:52:54.800 --> 0:52:57.080 Yeah, it's like my dream. It's we got to talk 0:52:57.120 --> 0:52:57.880 to ashling about this. 0:52:57.960 --> 0:52:59.719 We got to find out why there's not more hot 0:53:00.040 --> 0:53:02.560 You don't think I don't bring this up to every 0:53:02.600 --> 0:53:07.520 Irish person I meet, Kara, It's like, are they like, no, 0:53:07.600 --> 0:53:09.319 we just don't fuck with hot tubs or do they 0:53:09.360 --> 0:53:10.040 have any reasons? 0:53:10.080 --> 0:53:12.080 And you know they agree with me, but it's not 0:53:12.080 --> 0:53:12.640 even a thought there. 0:53:12.800 --> 0:53:14.640 One time I was in Ireland and it was during 0:53:14.640 --> 0:53:18.560 a heat wave, and so everyone every story I went 0:53:18.560 --> 0:53:21.400 into too, you know, I was walking around Dublin. Everyone's like, 0:53:21.440 --> 0:53:23.960 make sure you're drinking water. Oh so hot out there. 0:53:24.239 --> 0:53:26.799 I was in a denim. It was sixty degrees. That's 0:53:26.840 --> 0:53:31.719 a heat wave for them, like they were suffering boiling boiling, 0:53:32.120 --> 0:53:34.600 So hi, I don't really know because I've stayed at 0:53:34.640 --> 0:53:36.959 really cool hotels and like traveled all over and driven 0:53:36.960 --> 0:53:37.239 all over. 0:53:37.280 --> 0:53:39.560 It's one of my favorite places to be and I'm 0:53:39.640 --> 0:53:45.120 just like, God, if I could just come this place up, God, 0:53:46.440 --> 0:53:47.680 But no, they don't even think about it. 0:53:47.719 --> 0:53:50.600 So it's not even like they were They're like, oh what, 0:53:50.800 --> 0:53:54.120 because that's not even something they're thinking about. Yeah, it's 0:53:54.160 --> 0:53:57.160 just what I think about all the time. But but 0:53:57.200 --> 0:54:00.560 if I end up, hopefully one day owning home there, 0:54:01.239 --> 0:54:03.319 I will build a hot tub and I will start 0:54:03.360 --> 0:54:06.520 the trend. Anyways, back to here, we're going to doctor 0:54:06.680 --> 0:54:10.160 Morgan's office. So Finn and Lake are together and a 0:54:10.200 --> 0:54:13.040 woman asks them about their birth journey, like in the 0:54:13.040 --> 0:54:15.200 waiting room, and she's like, it's so hard for gay 0:54:15.239 --> 0:54:17.960 couples to adopt, you know, surrogacy, it must be the 0:54:18.000 --> 0:54:20.640 best option. And she's like, I can't believe they would 0:54:20.680 --> 0:54:23.520 rather kids be in orphanages than a good gay home. 0:54:23.840 --> 0:54:26.440 And you guys seem like a really nice couple to me. 0:54:26.600 --> 0:54:29.160 And she's like so smiley and sweet, and then Lake 0:54:29.320 --> 0:54:32.920 grabs like Finn's thigh really lovingly, and I don't know, 0:54:32.960 --> 0:54:37.360 maybe some fanfic can be written, but he does. And 0:54:37.360 --> 0:54:41.000 then Finn, obviously homophobic, throws Lake's hand off, and so 0:54:41.200 --> 0:54:43.400 he does not want to pretend to be gay, and 0:54:43.440 --> 0:54:45.799 so then they go talk to the doc, who obviously 0:54:46.160 --> 0:54:48.399 wants his lawyer and like, is not going to start 0:54:48.400 --> 0:54:50.440 talking about this couple, and they're like, no, relax, we're 0:54:50.440 --> 0:54:53.400 not here about the lawsuit. Someone attacked and raped carin 0:54:53.480 --> 0:54:55.759 Nicholson last night, and that's what we care about. He 0:54:55.840 --> 0:54:58.000 is really hot, this doctor, but he's just like evil 0:54:58.080 --> 0:54:59.560 Stern and doesn't give a fuck. He goes, I go 0:54:59.600 --> 0:55:02.440 from work home, That's all I do. He's super defensive. 0:55:02.760 --> 0:55:05.200 He's like, there's no grounds for the fucking lawsuit because 0:55:05.239 --> 0:55:07.640 she did the amnio pass the abortion cut off. So 0:55:07.680 --> 0:55:10.439 it's like, what do you want and they're like, yeah, 0:55:10.480 --> 0:55:12.759 we don't care again. We just like give us your 0:55:12.840 --> 0:55:14.640 DNA and then we'll be out of your hair. And 0:55:14.640 --> 0:55:16.800 he agrees to it like he has he's mad and 0:55:16.840 --> 0:55:17.560 has an attitude. 0:55:17.600 --> 0:55:18.239 He's like the. 0:55:18.280 --> 0:55:20.719 Nurse will come to a boockle, swab or buckle or 0:55:20.760 --> 0:55:23.680 whatever you say it. But I like that he's immediately 0:55:23.719 --> 0:55:26.040 giving up the DNA. So then Olivia and Chester, I guess, 0:55:26.080 --> 0:55:28.319 are in trial preps. So Finn and Stabler are gonna 0:55:28.320 --> 0:55:30.480 work together. Finn is on the phone with the lab 0:55:30.520 --> 0:55:33.479 and doctor Morgan is not a match, so they're like, okay, 0:55:33.560 --> 0:55:36.399 let's probably the dad, maybe a life insurance money. There's 0:55:36.440 --> 0:55:39.400 a big policy on carin half a million dollars. And 0:55:39.440 --> 0:55:41.399 the Munch is also like, well, we have no flight 0:55:41.480 --> 0:55:44.919 records either for him at all, so it's motive and opportunity, 0:55:45.239 --> 0:55:47.080 and we see footage of him going to the airport. 0:55:47.120 --> 0:55:49.279 He says bye to his wife and Katie, and then 0:55:49.440 --> 0:55:52.000 he leaves the terminal and gets in a cab immediately, 0:55:52.160 --> 0:55:54.560 so in and out, no flight. So now he's back 0:55:54.600 --> 0:55:57.040 in cemtroom bars. He doesn't want to answer any questions. 0:55:57.040 --> 0:55:59.360 He will not speak. Stabler and Finn are trying to 0:55:59.360 --> 0:56:02.200 get him to talk, and then bam, Dean porter FBI 0:56:02.480 --> 0:56:06.759 former guests of the podcast comes in, goes homeland security issue. 0:56:06.920 --> 0:56:10.160 You're not talking to him, go fuck yourself, FBI forever. 0:56:10.320 --> 0:56:13.319 So then basically the Patriot Act is more important than 0:56:13.360 --> 0:56:17.160 rape and murder to these people. So I also don't 0:56:17.160 --> 0:56:18.920 know any terrorists are being stopped all the time. But 0:56:18.960 --> 0:56:21.840 I also I think rape and murder is bad, Like 0:56:21.880 --> 0:56:24.920 I don't know, Yeah, I don't know anything. So so 0:56:25.000 --> 0:56:29.000 Finn Stabler exchange annoid slow motion looks and then so 0:56:29.040 --> 0:56:31.040 now they have to figure shit out without him. Munch 0:56:31.080 --> 0:56:34.000 does a report on the guy, and Aidan Quinn has 0:56:34.040 --> 0:56:37.880 a master's from Penn and then a PhD in biocam 0:56:37.960 --> 0:56:42.880 engineering from Berkeley and aerosols are his specialty. So then 0:56:42.960 --> 0:56:48.240 Munch of course conspiracy theorying about anthrax, warfare, money, think tanks, 0:56:48.320 --> 0:56:51.560 gas masks, panic, you know, just all the buzzwords, and 0:56:51.600 --> 0:56:53.920 Sailor goes, okay, but why do the FEDS need him 0:56:54.000 --> 0:56:57.359 so badly? Munch goes, well, I'll keep digging, and Finn 0:56:57.400 --> 0:57:00.560 and Staylor go to meet Novak. She has bounce volume 0:57:00.560 --> 0:57:03.319 blowout in her red hair era and she does have 0:57:03.360 --> 0:57:06.120 a warrant for his DNA, which is awesome, but they 0:57:06.160 --> 0:57:08.239 have to take the DNA in public and. 0:57:08.200 --> 0:57:09.920 They can't ask any questions. 0:57:10.440 --> 0:57:12.520 Stabler wants to know when they can sit down with him, 0:57:12.560 --> 0:57:14.800 and she's like, babe, I'm working on it. In the meantime, 0:57:15.040 --> 0:57:17.280 she's like, go talk to every other single person in 0:57:17.320 --> 0:57:20.120 his life, like get to work, she says, treat him 0:57:20.160 --> 0:57:23.280 like a purp and maybe he'll come to you. And 0:57:23.360 --> 0:57:25.800 so now we're at Mercy General Hospital. The couple from 0:57:25.840 --> 0:57:28.800 the Center is there and the husband's like, bitch, we're intruding, 0:57:28.880 --> 0:57:31.280 Like we shouldn't be here. This is weird. And the 0:57:31.320 --> 0:57:33.200 woman is so nice. She's like, I just want to 0:57:33.280 --> 0:57:36.640 visit Carin. So Stabler and Finn ask what's up, and Ben, 0:57:37.160 --> 0:57:39.240 the husband aidan Quinn, I haven't said his name at 0:57:39.240 --> 0:57:39.640 all once. 0:57:39.680 --> 0:57:40.320 His name is Ben. 0:57:40.560 --> 0:57:43.080 So Ben is with her right now, and he's like, 0:57:43.240 --> 0:57:45.640 just talk to Ben at least, and the man says 0:57:45.760 --> 0:57:49.680 no and leaves his wife there. So the FBI is 0:57:49.720 --> 0:57:51.320 there as well, and they're like get out of here, 0:57:51.480 --> 0:57:53.440 and they go, well, we have a warrant for the DNA. 0:57:53.600 --> 0:57:57.120 So Stabler says, let's take this outside because they have 0:57:57.160 --> 0:57:59.160 to do it in public. So now there's a walk 0:57:59.160 --> 0:58:00.960 and talk through the hospit at all halls and Dean 0:58:01.040 --> 0:58:04.600 Porter goes, listen, this isn't your guy, and Stabler goes, okay, yeah, yeah, 0:58:04.600 --> 0:58:09.520 but like you wouldn't like lie to save your own investigation. Yeah, right, 0:58:10.520 --> 0:58:14.120 So then the brunette curls and Aiden Quinn make eye 0:58:14.200 --> 0:58:16.920 contact and she says, why are you treating him this 0:58:17.000 --> 0:58:19.760 way when his wife was attacked? And Finn's like, well, 0:58:19.800 --> 0:58:21.800 it might be him that did it, but she doesn't 0:58:21.840 --> 0:58:24.120 believe it, and also can't believe that they like are 0:58:24.160 --> 0:58:27.360 just taking his DNA right there, like she's really protective 0:58:27.400 --> 0:58:29.800 of him. And then the doctor comes out and goes, listen, 0:58:29.840 --> 0:58:32.400 this is serious. Pieces of her sculler embedded deep in 0:58:32.440 --> 0:58:35.680 her left timp poral lobe swelling, and she's in a coma. 0:58:36.040 --> 0:58:39.000 We were not able to save the fetus either, dun dun. 0:58:39.760 --> 0:58:41.920 She was three months a long. He did not know 0:58:42.000 --> 0:58:46.400 she was pregnant, so he's struggling to grasp this information 0:58:46.520 --> 0:58:48.280 and deal with it in front of everyone. So he 0:58:48.400 --> 0:58:51.040 like walks off in a shock, and then Brown curls 0:58:51.040 --> 0:58:53.880 looks really really guilty and like, if that's her best friend, 0:58:53.920 --> 0:58:56.040 she might have known. So Finn is like, want to 0:58:56.080 --> 0:58:58.400 tell us something. She goes no, nothing, and they're like 0:58:58.440 --> 0:59:00.280 you have to say something if you know something thing, 0:59:00.320 --> 0:59:02.760 but she says sorry and runs off, and then the 0:59:02.800 --> 0:59:07.360 FBI says leave Ben alone or else. So Stabler is 0:59:07.400 --> 0:59:10.160 bitching at the office, and Novak did some sort of 0:59:10.200 --> 0:59:12.960 filing of emotion and the hearing is going to be tomorrow. 0:59:13.440 --> 0:59:14.320 They're getting nowhere. 0:59:14.400 --> 0:59:16.400 Nailing this guy so much, is like, just hit him 0:59:16.400 --> 0:59:18.520 where it hurts and let's go harass his young daughter. 0:59:19.120 --> 0:59:21.439 So Stabler goes, well, it didn't really work last time, 0:59:21.440 --> 0:59:23.720 and he says you weren't asking the right questions and 0:59:23.760 --> 0:59:27.480 Stabler swings his head around all offended, and Munch goes, well, 0:59:27.520 --> 0:59:30.400 I did research and talk to experts on her condition, 0:59:31.040 --> 0:59:33.840 and Craigan is the one normal person here and is like, 0:59:33.920 --> 0:59:36.320 I kind of feel uncomfortable. Going after a special needs 0:59:36.400 --> 0:59:39.280 child trying to screw over her father, and Novak's like, well, 0:59:39.280 --> 0:59:42.280 what other choice do we have? And I'm thinking look 0:59:42.280 --> 0:59:46.160 for another suspect. So anyway, so they're like, okay, Munch, 0:59:46.160 --> 0:59:49.480 what did you learn? So they're very empathetic kids like 0:59:49.520 --> 0:59:54.120 with Turner syndrome, and they study faces for emotional expressions. 0:59:54.160 --> 0:59:58.560 They're very sensitive, eager to please, affectionate, and savant skills 0:59:58.640 --> 1:00:02.800 like superhering and perf pitch and Stabler goes, yep, she 1:00:02.920 --> 1:00:05.400 covered her ears because of all the yelling, so she 1:00:05.520 --> 1:00:08.640 heard every word. Munch bets, but they confuse time and 1:00:08.680 --> 1:00:11.280 who said what? They just remember all the details, but 1:00:11.320 --> 1:00:14.480 like time eludes them. So Novak's like, well, well, like 1:00:14.840 --> 1:00:16.680 what we'll have to deal with on the stand and 1:00:16.760 --> 1:00:20.840 Munch goes, you know, anxiety add it's trouble taking criticism. 1:00:21.160 --> 1:00:22.640 And then Finn goes, well that sounds like you. 1:00:22.720 --> 1:00:25.040 And Finn says she can't lie to protect her dad 1:00:25.080 --> 1:00:28.360 and Munch says nope, Like they don't. They don't have 1:00:28.400 --> 1:00:31.280 any guile, is what Marsh says. Like, they're not gonna lie. 1:00:31.480 --> 1:00:34.520 They don't know what deception is. So they got to 1:00:34.560 --> 1:00:36.440 get her in here knock on his door. He says, 1:00:36.440 --> 1:00:39.080 get the hell away from my door. You have been 1:00:39.440 --> 1:00:42.200 thinking I tried to kill my wife. I'll kill you. 1:00:42.800 --> 1:00:45.040 He doesn't want them speaking to his daughter, and Novak 1:00:45.080 --> 1:00:47.360 threatens him while holding the door open. He's annoyed, but 1:00:47.440 --> 1:00:50.080 size and lets them in. Novak looks at Stabler like, 1:00:50.120 --> 1:00:51.240 aren't you glad it came with you? 1:00:51.480 --> 1:00:51.840 Loser? 1:00:52.320 --> 1:00:55.080 Katie remembers Fin and Elliott's names and happy to see them, 1:00:55.120 --> 1:00:57.840 and then hugs Casey Novak and then they all sit 1:00:57.880 --> 1:01:01.880 down for a chat. And what did you hear that night? 1:01:02.080 --> 1:01:06.200 And she heard you're ripping our family apart, and Aidan 1:01:06.240 --> 1:01:08.520 Quinn looks like really stress listening to this, And then 1:01:08.560 --> 1:01:11.000 I guess the mom screamed I hate you. And then 1:01:11.080 --> 1:01:13.400 she heard a slap and she claps her hands, and 1:01:13.440 --> 1:01:17.040 then she heard come here, baby, you smell good, and 1:01:17.200 --> 1:01:19.720 Aiden Quinn starts panicking and tearing up a little bit. 1:01:20.240 --> 1:01:21.440 And that wasn't her dad. 1:01:21.480 --> 1:01:23.440 He was at home at this portion of the listening, 1:01:23.520 --> 1:01:26.320 so the man wouldn't have been there. But she has 1:01:26.360 --> 1:01:30.520 heard this man's voice before, so that's something. And she 1:01:30.640 --> 1:01:33.200 always hears everything. And then she's heard come here, baby, 1:01:33.240 --> 1:01:37.040 you smell good, she repeats, and again she has perfect pitch, 1:01:37.080 --> 1:01:40.760 and she hears everything. And then she admits to her 1:01:40.800 --> 1:01:43.760 father about the man, and he said not to worry 1:01:43.760 --> 1:01:45.760 and everything will be fine. We're a family and we're 1:01:45.760 --> 1:01:49.440 going to stay together no matter what. The end was 1:01:49.440 --> 1:01:51.560 that clear whatever, This is everything she hears. She doesn't 1:01:51.560 --> 1:01:53.440 know who it is, but it's not Aiden Quinn. So 1:01:53.480 --> 1:01:55.480 then Aidan Quinn's head is in his own hands, and 1:01:55.520 --> 1:01:57.480 she runs to hug him, and then they hug, and 1:01:58.120 --> 1:02:01.439 so now they're all outside. So basically he knew about 1:02:01.440 --> 1:02:01.960 the cheating. 1:02:02.080 --> 1:02:02.560 So I was. 1:02:02.480 --> 1:02:04.720 Confused about this when I was watching too. When she 1:02:04.880 --> 1:02:08.480 hears the slap and you're ripping our family apart, and 1:02:08.480 --> 1:02:10.400 she says, that's my dad's voice. And then she hears 1:02:10.440 --> 1:02:12.120 the mom say I hate you. That is all a 1:02:12.120 --> 1:02:15.600 fight with her dad, right, But then the other voice, 1:02:16.720 --> 1:02:19.320 I come your baby, you smell good. 1:02:19.480 --> 1:02:22.520 That's a different voice. So do you think Aiden Quinn 1:02:22.560 --> 1:02:27.160 came home from the like his fake trip. 1:02:27.440 --> 1:02:29.440 They got into a fight and then he was circling 1:02:29.480 --> 1:02:33.000 the block and that's when this other person came in 1:02:34.000 --> 1:02:38.240 or or I thought maybe she was just oh the timelines, 1:02:38.280 --> 1:02:41.040 maybe it's different, yellings, Yeah, she's hearing a bunch of 1:02:41.120 --> 1:02:42.720 she's just telling you a bunch of different stuff she 1:02:42.800 --> 1:02:46.280 has heard, but she doesn't like know really when yeah, 1:02:46.480 --> 1:02:47.720 that's that's really what it is. 1:02:47.800 --> 1:02:50.600 Yeah, I think that's what it is. But he knew 1:02:50.600 --> 1:02:53.680 about the cheating, but they need to find evidence. Novak's like, 1:02:53.720 --> 1:02:56.320 can you just fucking find some evidence? Like circling the 1:02:56.360 --> 1:02:58.919 block is obviously shady as hell? Like what is up? 1:02:59.240 --> 1:03:01.480 So Casey goes to the courthouse and she's meeting with 1:03:01.520 --> 1:03:05.400 an assistant US attorney, Marian Springer, and she's. 1:03:05.240 --> 1:03:07.040 Like, I have nothing to talk to you about. What 1:03:07.080 --> 1:03:07.439 do you want. 1:03:07.480 --> 1:03:09.160 Casey goes, he tried to kill his wife and I 1:03:09.200 --> 1:03:11.600 can't figure out why you're shielding him. And she goes, 1:03:11.640 --> 1:03:13.760 if you had enough evidence, you would have arrested him. 1:03:13.800 --> 1:03:16.880 So he was with us, and she goes really the 1:03:16.880 --> 1:03:18.640 whole time, and she goes, yep, need to know. 1:03:19.160 --> 1:03:20.720 Novac goes, yeah, I need to know. 1:03:20.800 --> 1:03:22.440 There's a woman in a coma and she just hands 1:03:22.440 --> 1:03:24.600 over a paper with the Patriot Act and Casey walks 1:03:24.640 --> 1:03:27.560 off fuming, and the other woman goes save it for 1:03:27.640 --> 1:03:31.680 the judge. So now it's chaos at the priestinct. Everyone's confused, 1:03:31.680 --> 1:03:34.840 that's as to what's going on, including US. Feds won't 1:03:34.840 --> 1:03:37.640 budge and they have nothing else. So then Tina Parvin 1:03:38.120 --> 1:03:40.320 from the group has come to make a statement and 1:03:40.360 --> 1:03:43.680 this is my friend from the bar. Yes, and Lake 1:03:43.720 --> 1:03:45.720 and Benson sit with her, and she didn't know what 1:03:45.760 --> 1:03:48.000 to do. She couldn't believe that Ben would hurt Karen. 1:03:48.240 --> 1:03:52.479 But karenn was cheating. She was pregnant, and Ben didn't 1:03:52.480 --> 1:03:54.600 want more kids because he didn't want to take attention 1:03:54.680 --> 1:03:57.800 away from Katie. This is confusing too, so she did 1:03:57.800 --> 1:04:00.480 a DNC and then she was pissed when he got 1:04:00.520 --> 1:04:03.680 a a sexy me without telling her, so like she 1:04:03.680 --> 1:04:06.000 couldn't lie about it. But doesn't a DNC mean like 1:04:06.160 --> 1:04:07.320 terminating the hospital? 1:04:07.360 --> 1:04:09.080 So how it does? She said to be he is 1:04:10.280 --> 1:04:11.320 like a surgical abortion. 1:04:11.960 --> 1:04:14.560 So I wonder if she lied to her friend about 1:04:14.560 --> 1:04:18.080 having a DNC and then didn't do it. But yeah, 1:04:18.080 --> 1:04:19.720 why would she have a DNC if she wanted more 1:04:19.760 --> 1:04:23.240 kids but he didn't, Well, because maybe she had to 1:04:23.240 --> 1:04:25.400 get it because he had a sexymy so he would 1:04:25.440 --> 1:04:29.600 know it wasn't his. But she kept it and her 1:04:29.600 --> 1:04:32.400 best friend thinks she had a DNC, so I am confused. 1:04:32.840 --> 1:04:34.400 Yeah, she says, she. 1:04:34.320 --> 1:04:36.760 Doesn't know who she was sleeping with, but they're best 1:04:36.800 --> 1:04:39.600 friends and maybe like she thought that, like her friend 1:04:39.600 --> 1:04:42.880 wouldn't approve. Munch comes in and goes Krinn is conscious, 1:04:43.000 --> 1:04:44.560 so they go to talk to her and she is 1:04:44.680 --> 1:04:47.360 flipping out. She has all the way around head bandage, 1:04:47.360 --> 1:04:49.240 but it's like the top of the head too. It's 1:04:49.280 --> 1:04:51.880 like very upsetting to look at, to be honest, multiple 1:04:51.920 --> 1:04:54.640 medical professionals are holding her down and she's begging for 1:04:54.680 --> 1:04:56.920 them to please let her go, and then Benson and 1:04:57.000 --> 1:04:59.640 Lake arrive and straight up they're like, babe, you were attacked, 1:04:59.640 --> 1:05:02.240 give us scoop. And she keeps talking about Katie's surgery 1:05:02.520 --> 1:05:04.360 and how Katie is in surgery and she has to 1:05:04.400 --> 1:05:07.360 get to her daughter Katie, and she's like confused, that's 1:05:07.520 --> 1:05:10.000 what's happening. And Lake looks really scared looking at this. 1:05:10.560 --> 1:05:13.880 So the doctor drugs her to calm her down, and 1:05:14.080 --> 1:05:17.200 she explains how her head injuries are unpredictable and she 1:05:17.280 --> 1:05:21.360 might have retrograde amnesia, so depending on the damage to 1:05:21.400 --> 1:05:23.920 the frontal lobe, she might never get her memory back, 1:05:24.280 --> 1:05:26.120 and so she thinks it's six months. 1:05:25.880 --> 1:05:27.760 Ago and that's why she's so confused. 1:05:28.200 --> 1:05:30.680 But they're gonna do tests and figure it out, and 1:05:30.720 --> 1:05:34.160 the tests very fast. She's back and Carina knows who 1:05:34.200 --> 1:05:36.720 she is and like where she is, but not what 1:05:36.880 --> 1:05:39.000 day it is, and she thinks it's April two thousand 1:05:39.000 --> 1:05:41.720 and seven and there's no cure and there's no way 1:05:41.760 --> 1:05:44.800 what she will recall or not. She says, the husband 1:05:44.800 --> 1:05:47.160 won't return her calls, but like she needs friends and 1:05:47.200 --> 1:05:48.040 family around her. 1:05:48.080 --> 1:05:51.120 She's not going to be able to recover, so what 1:05:51.160 --> 1:05:51.760 are they gonna do? 1:05:51.960 --> 1:05:56.320 So now Casey's suddenly and is there as well, and 1:05:56.360 --> 1:05:58.760 now we want rushed to court. So then it's a 1:05:58.840 --> 1:06:02.680 judge his name's judge trying and the attorney General and 1:06:02.720 --> 1:06:06.160 Casey are arguing in front of the judge and she's like, 1:06:06.200 --> 1:06:09.240 I'm on the attorney general side though, like you need 1:06:09.280 --> 1:06:11.840 to find evidence, like I hate what they want, like 1:06:12.360 --> 1:06:13.160 all this stuff. 1:06:13.200 --> 1:06:15.840 When it's like, but you do need evidence, like. 1:06:15.800 --> 1:06:18.160 You have you guys know how the law works, Like 1:06:18.200 --> 1:06:20.560 if this is all circumstantial, you need evidence. 1:06:20.920 --> 1:06:23.720 Yeah, And the appeal is denied. The judge is like, 1:06:24.080 --> 1:06:26.160 you got to get more evidence, and then I'll reconsider, 1:06:26.240 --> 1:06:28.880 but you guys are not doing a good job. When 1:06:28.880 --> 1:06:31.360 they walk outside, Casey says, I hope this bastard is 1:06:31.400 --> 1:06:34.200 worth it to the attorney general. And they're like, Ben 1:06:34.280 --> 1:06:38.400 Nicholson is a biochemical engineering specialist, and Casey's like, okay, 1:06:38.480 --> 1:06:41.760 in what like is that secret too? And she explains 1:06:41.840 --> 1:06:46.120 he's bait and he works for an international corporation, and 1:06:46.200 --> 1:06:49.040 Casey suddenly is like, oh, I get it. So it's 1:06:49.040 --> 1:06:52.160 a sting operation and diminishing what she says. And she 1:06:52.280 --> 1:06:55.960 responds that if buyers from roganations try to buy trade secrets, 1:06:56.040 --> 1:06:59.640 I've done my job. So, like she goes, there's a 1:06:59.720 --> 1:07:02.160 terror on every corner, you just don't know about it, 1:07:02.920 --> 1:07:05.640 and they're using him as bait in an international corporation 1:07:05.760 --> 1:07:06.920 to steal secret I don't know. 1:07:07.120 --> 1:07:10.080 Well, no, I think if you also do biochemical engineering, 1:07:10.120 --> 1:07:13.640 they get worried about terrorists approaching you to get possibly 1:07:13.720 --> 1:07:17.280 like biochemical weapons, you know, like and those are so 1:07:17.440 --> 1:07:21.360 scary of like you know, saren in a subway that 1:07:21.520 --> 1:07:24.480 kills hundreds of people in want like when they're trapped 1:07:24.560 --> 1:07:26.400 or something like that. You know, so, and there have 1:07:26.440 --> 1:07:28.240 been attacks like that, So I think maybe that's what 1:07:28.360 --> 1:07:32.960 she's talking about, like why he would be like why 1:07:32.960 --> 1:07:35.240 he would be like a desirable person for a terrorist 1:07:35.320 --> 1:07:36.400 organization to approach. 1:07:36.760 --> 1:07:41.680 I guess, yeah, So so he's the bait. Okay, yeah, 1:07:41.760 --> 1:07:45.760 I got it. Can't the terrorists get their own biomedical people. 1:07:46.040 --> 1:07:46.760 Yeah. 1:07:46.800 --> 1:07:50.160 So Casey's at a center, the Center precinct, and she's 1:07:50.200 --> 1:07:55.240 explaining what seems obvious, like they need physical evidence to 1:07:55.320 --> 1:07:58.240 link him to the crime or he is off limits, 1:07:58.280 --> 1:07:59.680 like I don't know. 1:08:00.440 --> 1:08:01.400 So then Munch comes in. 1:08:01.320 --> 1:08:03.880 With a middlea folder and the DNA is back and 1:08:03.960 --> 1:08:07.040 Nicholson did not rape her. And it's actually the best 1:08:07.040 --> 1:08:11.920 friend's husband, so the OZ guy so and he's Marine 1:08:11.960 --> 1:08:15.240 reserved Joel Parvin, So Tina's husband. So she is fucking 1:08:15.280 --> 1:08:19.080 her best friend's husband. Ooh, and he's in cement room 1:08:19.120 --> 1:08:23.080 bars so fucking fast and he goes nothing happened, and 1:08:23.120 --> 1:08:25.519 they say, well, Karen Nicholson might disagree with you on 1:08:25.560 --> 1:08:27.760 that one. He's like, I was with her that night 1:08:27.840 --> 1:08:29.760 and she told him about the baby and they got 1:08:29.760 --> 1:08:31.840 into a fight because she was going to keep it. 1:08:31.920 --> 1:08:34.720 But like again the DNC, I'm so confused. So then 1:08:34.760 --> 1:08:36.720 it's like, oh, so then you bashed her head in. 1:08:36.920 --> 1:08:39.840 Stabler leans into his face and he goes, you guys 1:08:39.880 --> 1:08:42.280 have it all wrong. Yeah, I was angry. My wife 1:08:42.280 --> 1:08:44.960 and me started to work things out again, and he says, 1:08:45.000 --> 1:08:47.599 you don't know what it's like, and Benson goes, please 1:08:47.600 --> 1:08:49.920 don't use your son as an excuse. You slept with 1:08:49.960 --> 1:08:53.200 your wife's friend and you got her pregnant. And he 1:08:53.240 --> 1:08:56.040 says when they started, they were both separated, but they 1:08:56.080 --> 1:08:59.000 just couldn't stop. He went there to make a clean break, 1:08:59.200 --> 1:09:01.800 but then they fucked and he did not hit her. 1:09:02.080 --> 1:09:04.280 She was fine when he left around eleven PM and 1:09:04.360 --> 1:09:06.880 he went home and he says, arrest me because you 1:09:06.920 --> 1:09:09.240 can't keep me. Like he goes, arrest me or not, 1:09:09.360 --> 1:09:11.479 but like, I know you can't keep me here. So 1:09:11.840 --> 1:09:14.559 what are they gonna do? They suggest a voice lineup 1:09:14.680 --> 1:09:17.559 to do with Katie. Casey goes, well, she's disabled, it 1:09:17.560 --> 1:09:19.880 won't hold up in court. But Stable goes, well, she's 1:09:19.880 --> 1:09:24.880 not stupid, and Craigan says she's an emotional rollercoaster, like 1:09:24.960 --> 1:09:27.479 is she going to break in the cross And Benson's like, listen, 1:09:27.560 --> 1:09:30.519 let's just see if she makes the id. So they 1:09:30.520 --> 1:09:32.519 put her through that. It's a voice lineup and she 1:09:32.560 --> 1:09:36.080 clocks him immediately with his dumb accent. He's like, it's 1:09:36.080 --> 1:09:38.599 not a dumb accent. He's just like very East Coast, 1:09:38.640 --> 1:09:42.080 I would say. So Chauncey is the lawyer, and he 1:09:42.120 --> 1:09:45.519 gives attitude immediately like oh or with a slow girl. 1:09:45.800 --> 1:09:48.280 It's like, okay, well she idd your client, so figure 1:09:48.320 --> 1:09:51.120 it out. He's like she's not credible, and he calls 1:09:51.160 --> 1:09:53.519 it a waste of time, and she can't say what happened, 1:09:53.960 --> 1:09:57.240 and she keeps going with what she heard and the 1:09:57.439 --> 1:10:00.000 so she's now explaining everything she heard. I want to 1:10:00.080 --> 1:10:02.519 baby that can grow up, be normal. That's what I 1:10:02.600 --> 1:10:05.200 want too. Damn bad, you're breaking up my home, you 1:10:05.320 --> 1:10:08.000 selfish bitch. Then she heard ow, let. 1:10:07.840 --> 1:10:08.640 Go, you're hurting me. 1:10:08.760 --> 1:10:11.200 Then bam, mom was crying bam, bam bam, then breathing 1:10:11.560 --> 1:10:13.639 bitch in a low voice, and then he went away. 1:10:14.240 --> 1:10:16.800 But like then she goes, but that's the wrong word, 1:10:16.920 --> 1:10:19.240 Like that's not what it means, right, is it, dad? 1:10:19.439 --> 1:10:20.519 And then she goes the end. 1:10:21.439 --> 1:10:23.759 So then Stabler's eyes are really big and he leans 1:10:23.800 --> 1:10:25.600 down and is like, Katie is the man in the 1:10:25.600 --> 1:10:27.439 other room who said all that She goes, no, that's 1:10:27.479 --> 1:10:29.240 not him, and they're like, so you're sure the voices 1:10:29.240 --> 1:10:31.800 are different. She's like, yep, the pitch is too low. 1:10:32.360 --> 1:10:36.080 So now Chauncey is smug and everyone's confused. And then 1:10:36.360 --> 1:10:39.040 you know, Aiden Quinn hugs and kisses her daughter his daughter, 1:10:39.520 --> 1:10:41.320 and then the son is there to meet his dad 1:10:41.800 --> 1:10:44.040 and Katie gives him a dirty look, goes right up 1:10:44.040 --> 1:10:45.960 to the sun and goes, you use the wrong word. 1:10:46.240 --> 1:10:48.960 Bitch is a female dog. And it's dramatic music. 1:10:49.120 --> 1:10:52.760 Everyone mouth is open and shock, and Stabler says, are 1:10:52.760 --> 1:10:55.320 you sure, and Katie goes, my mother is not a bitch, 1:10:55.760 --> 1:10:57.519 and dad is like, what the hell did you do? 1:10:58.080 --> 1:10:59.519 And so this is the blonde son. 1:11:00.120 --> 1:11:02.360 A stating story, so like he has the long blonde hair, 1:11:02.400 --> 1:11:05.040 he's the Parvin's son. So Stabler takes the blonde son 1:11:05.080 --> 1:11:09.160 who has a full bob and Dad says, don't say anything, 1:11:09.160 --> 1:11:11.000 and I'll get you out as soon as I can. 1:11:11.360 --> 1:11:14.400 So then Aidan Quinn looks so pissed, and he comes 1:11:14.439 --> 1:11:16.559 back late at night to talk to Stabler alone, who's 1:11:16.640 --> 1:11:19.000 late night avoiding his family. Of course, like you could 1:11:19.000 --> 1:11:22.240 do paperwork on the couch. How teachers grade papers. So 1:11:22.280 --> 1:11:24.640 then Stabler's like, is everything all right? And it's like, 1:11:25.080 --> 1:11:27.640 I know, there's the saying that there aren't stupid questions, 1:11:28.240 --> 1:11:30.400 but like asking Aid and Quinn if everything's all right 1:11:30.640 --> 1:11:35.280 is like kind of psychotic. No, he's going through a lot. 1:11:35.520 --> 1:11:39.000 He's going through a lotta Why did he attack Karen? 1:11:39.280 --> 1:11:41.439 And he has a lawyer, so he's not talking, And 1:11:41.439 --> 1:11:44.400 then Aiden Quinn sighs and falls. He was hoping there 1:11:44.439 --> 1:11:47.200 was a confession so Katie didn't have to testify. So 1:11:47.240 --> 1:11:50.040 the Parvins have separated a bunch of times before, and 1:11:50.240 --> 1:11:53.440 the son followed his dad and went into the apartment 1:11:53.520 --> 1:11:56.479 after his father left from like I guess fucking and 1:11:56.520 --> 1:11:57.439 fighting this woman. 1:11:57.920 --> 1:11:59.080 I don't know. I don't know. 1:11:59.280 --> 1:12:01.040 But Katie is the only witness to all of this, 1:12:01.120 --> 1:12:03.960 and not even really it's just like a hearing an 1:12:04.000 --> 1:12:09.160 auditory witness. But like he just people just don't want 1:12:09.160 --> 1:12:11.240 her in the stand. Everyone just does not want her 1:12:11.280 --> 1:12:13.519 on the stand. Basically, they just know Chauncey is gonna 1:12:13.520 --> 1:12:16.080 like fucking go after her, so tough. So then Stabler 1:12:16.120 --> 1:12:18.760 says he promises that he's gonna shield the daughter from 1:12:18.800 --> 1:12:21.200 as much as possible, and he says thank you when 1:12:21.200 --> 1:12:24.160 he leaves. Stabler is so stressed by all of this. 1:12:24.840 --> 1:12:27.599 And now we're at the swear ability hearing and it's 1:12:27.680 --> 1:12:31.120 Judge Petrovsky. Hell yeah, and they're gonna see if Katie 1:12:31.160 --> 1:12:33.519 can be a reliable witness in court. And Shauncey says, 1:12:33.560 --> 1:12:37.759 it's a waste of time. She's severely disabled, and Casey's like, okay, 1:12:37.800 --> 1:12:40.800 disabled or not, she clearly heard everything that happened and 1:12:40.960 --> 1:12:43.600 I did the defendant. And the judge goes, well, that 1:12:43.640 --> 1:12:46.240 seems reasonable, and so let's get this girl here and 1:12:46.240 --> 1:12:49.320 see what's up. But she's not here, and Chauncey goes, well, 1:12:49.439 --> 1:12:51.120 we gave her the date and time, and it's like 1:12:51.200 --> 1:12:53.439 it's a kid, Like it's her parents. 1:12:53.479 --> 1:12:55.679 You can't blame the kid for not showing up to court. 1:12:55.960 --> 1:12:58.800 She's not driving there, she can't like take the sixth train, 1:12:59.160 --> 1:13:02.360 like it's so crazy. But where is the dad and daughter? 1:13:02.479 --> 1:13:04.880 Either way, it's an issue no one knows. The judge 1:13:04.880 --> 1:13:07.040 gives them twenty four hours to find them, so like, 1:13:08.000 --> 1:13:10.080 is it deaf? Yeah, So Stabler is now talking to 1:13:10.120 --> 1:13:14.040 Dean Porter and he calls Stabler a bastard and also 1:13:14.040 --> 1:13:15.240 says we don't have him either. 1:13:15.360 --> 1:13:17.400 He's off the grid, so I'm pretty worried about where 1:13:17.439 --> 1:13:17.680 he is. 1:13:18.360 --> 1:13:20.439 There's work he needs to be doing and people he 1:13:20.520 --> 1:13:23.360 needs to meet, and instead he's protecting his daughter from you. 1:13:23.840 --> 1:13:26.240 And he's like, you think I like this, and Dean goes, 1:13:26.280 --> 1:13:28.760 I mean, what would you do in his place? And 1:13:28.880 --> 1:13:31.800 obviously Elliott can put himself in the shoes of this 1:13:31.920 --> 1:13:34.160 man and goes, yes, I would hide her in the 1:13:34.240 --> 1:13:37.479 last place anybody would look. And Dean says, if you 1:13:37.600 --> 1:13:40.160 find him, let me know, and Stable goes, uh, yeah, 1:13:40.200 --> 1:13:44.320 he'll be my first call. So we find Tina Parvin 1:13:44.920 --> 1:13:46.720 and she used her bank card and so that's how 1:13:46.760 --> 1:13:49.479 Stabler found her. She denies knowing where anyone is, and 1:13:49.520 --> 1:13:51.720 Stabler goes like, I know what's up. I know you're 1:13:51.720 --> 1:13:54.400 protecting his daughter and he's protecting your son, and that's 1:13:54.439 --> 1:13:57.000 what you guys are doing. So and she calls him 1:13:57.000 --> 1:13:59.080 crazy and tries to talk like, walk it off, talk 1:13:59.080 --> 1:14:01.719 it off. Sabor's you know she's doing court to testify 1:14:01.760 --> 1:14:04.320 against your son Alex. If you refuse, then you're an 1:14:04.360 --> 1:14:07.920 accessory and you're guilty of obstruction. She stops walking and 1:14:08.000 --> 1:14:10.280 Ben went to meet someone, and Katy is with Andrew 1:14:10.360 --> 1:14:14.799 and her sister. So back in court, Katie's on the stand. 1:14:14.920 --> 1:14:18.240 She knows what what truth means. She understands the concept 1:14:18.240 --> 1:14:21.960 of punishment. She's so cute, and Casey's like, have you 1:14:21.960 --> 1:14:23.760 ever told a lie? And she said that, like she 1:14:23.880 --> 1:14:25.800 ate a girl cheese that she hated but said she 1:14:25.960 --> 1:14:30.599 liked it, so she's like honest, and then Judge Petrovski gavels, 1:14:30.680 --> 1:14:34.439 but it's so loud that Katie screams and Casey's like, hey, 1:14:34.520 --> 1:14:37.120 hello her hearing and Judge is so cute and she's like, 1:14:37.120 --> 1:14:38.040 I'm so sorry. 1:14:38.200 --> 1:14:39.800 She goes, that's okay, can I get a hug? 1:14:39.840 --> 1:14:44.439 And Judge brut He's like no, really confused, and then. 1:14:44.520 --> 1:14:46.799 Like such a funny reaction. I love it. 1:14:46.800 --> 1:14:49.240 It's so cute because then she goes, well maybe later, 1:14:49.880 --> 1:14:54.680 you know, I really I love Judge Petrovsky and I 1:14:54.720 --> 1:14:57.880 love this moment. So Casey is like, did you hear 1:14:57.920 --> 1:15:00.200 the man in the bedroom say anything else? She goes yeah, 1:15:00.240 --> 1:15:02.439 and then she's like, oh yeah, well, you know, like 1:15:02.479 --> 1:15:05.200 people are fucking and Katie heard it, and the judge goes, 1:15:05.280 --> 1:15:10.599 that's enough. Katie, So Alex argued and hit her mother, 1:15:11.400 --> 1:15:14.320 and she asks her how she knew the difference between 1:15:14.320 --> 1:15:17.000 their voices, and she goes, the father is an even tempo, 1:15:17.160 --> 1:15:21.000 large pitch and deep timber. Alex is fast tempo, high 1:15:21.000 --> 1:15:24.000 pitch and medium timber. And she goes, I know what 1:15:24.040 --> 1:15:26.360 I heard the end, and then Casey says thank you. 1:15:26.800 --> 1:15:29.280 Sabler's in the hall and Aiden finally comes and they 1:15:29.280 --> 1:15:31.120 have a back and forth, and then Sablor says, well, 1:15:31.160 --> 1:15:33.559 Katie isn't as weak as you think she is, which 1:15:33.600 --> 1:15:35.640 is psycho to say to a parent. And he goes, oh, 1:15:35.680 --> 1:15:39.280 because you're an expert now, like it's crazy, and he goes, no, 1:15:39.439 --> 1:15:42.520 I just know a liar when I see one, and 1:15:42.560 --> 1:15:46.080 he goes, what like he gets so defensive, and Saber's like, 1:15:46.120 --> 1:15:47.840 I don't think you're worried about your daughter. I think 1:15:47.840 --> 1:15:50.880 you're worried about yourself. And he screams the defense attorney 1:15:50.960 --> 1:15:53.400 is going to rip her to shreds. And mister Parvin 1:15:53.439 --> 1:15:55.759 has a kid with William syndrome two. He knows exactly 1:15:55.800 --> 1:15:58.439 how to push the buttons of my daughter. And he says, 1:15:58.479 --> 1:16:00.920 you left your daughter with the parven not to protect 1:16:00.960 --> 1:16:03.719 your daughter. He responds, you don't know what you're talking about, 1:16:04.040 --> 1:16:05.840 and Stable goes, well, I know that the FEDS are 1:16:05.840 --> 1:16:08.240 looking for you, and you fell off the grid and 1:16:08.360 --> 1:16:10.760 you took a meeting without them knowing about it, and 1:16:10.960 --> 1:16:13.360 he's so smug, and Aiden goes, not everything I do 1:16:13.479 --> 1:16:16.000 is their business. And there's a twinkle in Stabler's eye 1:16:16.280 --> 1:16:18.000 and he's like, yeah, so you got all this cash 1:16:18.040 --> 1:16:21.080 for the Cabby even though you're bankrupt. So what's going on? 1:16:21.160 --> 1:16:22.960 Like what are you doing? Where are you getting this money? 1:16:22.960 --> 1:16:26.080 Who are you meeting for? And it made Stabler wonder, 1:16:26.120 --> 1:16:27.640 and he said, you can wonder all you want, but 1:16:27.680 --> 1:16:29.800 don't question the love I have for my daughter. And 1:16:29.840 --> 1:16:32.360 he says everyone has an excuse, but if I were you, 1:16:32.360 --> 1:16:34.240 I would think of a better one for the FBI. 1:16:34.680 --> 1:16:37.120 He gets up to leave as Dean Porter enterers and 1:16:37.439 --> 1:16:39.240 Dean goes, thanks for the heads up, So, like, I 1:16:39.280 --> 1:16:42.200 guess he did help the FBI, which is crazy. So 1:16:42.280 --> 1:16:44.960 then Chauncey's gonna again rip this girl apart, and he's 1:16:44.960 --> 1:16:46.720 trying to trick her, asking like what she did two 1:16:46.760 --> 1:16:49.440 days ago and three days ago? Casey of Jack's badgering, 1:16:49.760 --> 1:16:52.439 he says, these are simple questions. If she can't answer these, 1:16:52.520 --> 1:16:56.160 what she going to do in trial? And it is overruled. 1:16:56.439 --> 1:16:58.240 And then the next question is what time was your 1:16:58.360 --> 1:17:01.200 mother attacked? And she says bedtime. She was in her nightgown, 1:17:01.200 --> 1:17:03.120 and he goes, no, its way later than that. Did 1:17:03.160 --> 1:17:05.280 you see his face? She was, of course not, she 1:17:05.320 --> 1:17:07.519 was under the bed. Have you seen Alex before? Yes, 1:17:07.600 --> 1:17:09.400 so why didn't you tell anyone he hurt your mother? 1:17:09.439 --> 1:17:11.400 And she starts to cry and goes, you're upsetting me, 1:17:11.479 --> 1:17:13.880 Go away, and he asks that the cops ask you 1:17:13.920 --> 1:17:15.599 over and over again who did it? And the camera 1:17:15.640 --> 1:17:17.920 pans to Elliott, who takes a deep breath of annoyance, 1:17:18.000 --> 1:17:20.960 and then Chauncey's continues like, you're just saying whatever to 1:17:20.960 --> 1:17:24.080 please miss Novak, right, that's why you said he did it, 1:17:24.120 --> 1:17:26.800 and he is like people with William syndrome are willing 1:17:26.840 --> 1:17:29.280 to do and say whatever people want to hear, and 1:17:29.360 --> 1:17:32.200 Casey says she has not changed her story, not once, 1:17:32.640 --> 1:17:35.479 and then despite counsel attempt to badger and confuse her, 1:17:35.920 --> 1:17:38.280 he goes, you want us to believe she heard all 1:17:38.320 --> 1:17:41.120 that under a bed, like through walls and closed doors, 1:17:41.400 --> 1:17:43.439 and Casey's like and I could prove she did it 1:17:43.520 --> 1:17:45.080 and heard every single word, and it's. 1:17:44.920 --> 1:17:46.040 Like, then, why did you do it? 1:17:46.360 --> 1:17:48.280 Like obviously it's because it's a TV show, but like, 1:17:48.760 --> 1:17:52.040 do it before the cross? Why does this girl have 1:17:52.080 --> 1:17:55.800 to suffer? So Casey gives Chauncey and jose Petrovsky a 1:17:55.840 --> 1:17:58.360 piece of paper with three questions and sees if she 1:17:58.400 --> 1:18:02.200 can hear them correctly. So well, basically she so, Casey 1:18:02.240 --> 1:18:05.280 holds her hand in front of her face and whispers 1:18:05.400 --> 1:18:08.080 super super softly the questions that are on the sheet 1:18:08.120 --> 1:18:11.519 of paper. Did Alex hurt your mother? Why did he 1:18:11.600 --> 1:18:13.639 hurt her? And did anyone tell you what to say 1:18:13.680 --> 1:18:16.400 in court? And the plan is working and Shauncey and 1:18:16.439 --> 1:18:19.000 Petrovsky look at Casey at the same time as like 1:18:19.280 --> 1:18:22.479 you know, she answered, like the girl is answering. She goes, yes, 1:18:22.760 --> 1:18:25.360 Alex hurt my mother. She was hurting his family because 1:18:25.400 --> 1:18:27.720 she was having a baby. Yes, my dad said don't 1:18:27.720 --> 1:18:30.280 tell anybody about getting money from mister Kim so we 1:18:30.320 --> 1:18:33.200 can go away. And Casey goes, who's mister Kim And 1:18:33.240 --> 1:18:36.519 then Stabler leans in and she says, he brings my 1:18:36.600 --> 1:18:41.760 dad money. In a briefcase, the end, she revealed some 1:18:41.800 --> 1:18:44.840 secrets about her father. So then Stabler walks to Aidan Quinn, 1:18:44.840 --> 1:18:46.720 who's at the hospital while his wife's in her room 1:18:46.760 --> 1:18:49.840 behind glass and full bandage is still Alex Parvin made 1:18:49.840 --> 1:18:52.280 a deal to avoid trial. Katie won't have to testify, 1:18:52.360 --> 1:18:54.720 and he says, that's a relief. He goes, yeah, I'm 1:18:54.760 --> 1:18:57.120 sure she won't have to reveal any more secrets in court. 1:18:57.160 --> 1:18:59.439 He goes, I don't fucking care. The FBI owns me 1:18:59.520 --> 1:19:00.439 now matter. 1:19:00.560 --> 1:19:02.840 It is pretty funny to have a guy being your 1:19:02.880 --> 1:19:06.160 informant for the FBI who has a daughter with perfect 1:19:06.200 --> 1:19:08.760 pitch who can hear everything you're saying from like another room, 1:19:09.200 --> 1:19:10.679 you know, Like you'd have to bring on a sound 1:19:10.680 --> 1:19:11.200 proof room. 1:19:11.360 --> 1:19:13.080 Like that's a liability, I think. 1:19:14.600 --> 1:19:16.600 He's like, yeah, Like if you need perfect vision to 1:19:16.640 --> 1:19:18.240 be a pilot, you can't have a girl with like 1:19:18.439 --> 1:19:20.640 Turner syndrome in your family if you want to have 1:19:20.800 --> 1:19:21.840 like world secrets. 1:19:22.400 --> 1:19:25.280 He's like, yeah, duh. They cut you a deal like 1:19:25.320 --> 1:19:26.880 any common thief. You know what I mean. 1:19:27.479 --> 1:19:29.160 You testify and you don't have to go to prison, 1:19:29.560 --> 1:19:31.519 and he goes, I turned him in already. I just 1:19:31.560 --> 1:19:34.240 took the money and I didn't, you know, tell the feds. 1:19:34.479 --> 1:19:36.640 It's a big woop. But like I turned mister kim in, 1:19:37.160 --> 1:19:39.639 Sablor gets in really close to him, looks around and says, 1:19:39.760 --> 1:19:41.400 must have been an awful lot of cash free to 1:19:41.400 --> 1:19:43.760 take a chance like that. What did you sell? And 1:19:43.800 --> 1:19:46.479 he says it's a prototype for a new dispersion system, 1:19:46.560 --> 1:19:49.080 Like Stabler would even fucking understand what that is. So 1:19:49.120 --> 1:19:52.439 they're gonna find out soon enough it doesn't work. Stabler 1:19:52.479 --> 1:19:55.360 furrows his brow. You took a lot of risk for nothing, 1:19:55.760 --> 1:19:57.360 and he goes, well, it wouldn't have been a problem 1:19:57.400 --> 1:20:01.000 if Katie didn't repeat everything she heard. And so then 1:20:01.200 --> 1:20:03.439 Stabler asks, how's your wife and he says, soon to 1:20:03.479 --> 1:20:07.280 be ex wife, and you know, but she is doing 1:20:07.280 --> 1:20:09.360 well enough to be discharged. Katie is with her mom 1:20:09.439 --> 1:20:11.639 right now and they're talking to a nurse behind him, 1:20:11.640 --> 1:20:14.960 and he says, where is she gonna go? And he goes, 1:20:15.040 --> 1:20:17.200 I don't know, I don't care, I don't give a fuck, 1:20:17.240 --> 1:20:19.320 and he says, you know, she doesn't remember the affair, 1:20:19.439 --> 1:20:21.360 losing the baby, any of it, and he laughs and goes, 1:20:21.439 --> 1:20:22.360 isn't that convenient? 1:20:22.840 --> 1:20:25.800 Like what a villain turn? I really didn't see it's coming. 1:20:26.320 --> 1:20:27.960 And then he goes, all right, Katie, let's go, and 1:20:28.040 --> 1:20:30.800 Katie says, okay, Mommy, let's go and starts pushing the 1:20:30.840 --> 1:20:33.479 wheelchair and he says, no, Katie, we talked about this. 1:20:33.880 --> 1:20:36.679 She's not going anywhere with us, and Katie is fighting 1:20:36.720 --> 1:20:39.840 him as he grabs and drags her away, and she's 1:20:39.840 --> 1:20:42.200 screaming like dad, dad, and the mom's confused. She has 1:20:42.240 --> 1:20:44.160 no idea what's going on and gets up, going why 1:20:44.160 --> 1:20:44.920 won't you talk to me? 1:20:44.960 --> 1:20:46.000 Why can't I come home? 1:20:46.080 --> 1:20:50.320 Please, don't walk away like everyone's crying, Ben. 1:20:50.160 --> 1:20:51.959 Why can't I come home? She screams. 1:20:52.560 --> 1:20:56.080 And he's dragging Katie as she keeps screaming, stop daddy, 1:20:56.120 --> 1:20:58.360 And it's like, can you at least tell her, like, listen, 1:20:58.400 --> 1:21:00.519 you cheated on me, you were pregnant with another's baby, 1:21:00.560 --> 1:21:01.800 Like I don't really want to be with you, Like 1:21:01.880 --> 1:21:05.320 why won't he talk to her so to tell her nothing? 1:21:05.400 --> 1:21:07.439 Grab her daughter as she's getting out of a traumatic 1:21:07.479 --> 1:21:10.479 brain injury is so fucked up. Karina is sobbing, Katie 1:21:10.520 --> 1:21:15.639 is screaming. Stabler is pissed, and that's dick Wolf baby Creary. 1:21:16.080 --> 1:21:19.759 Yeah, it's a messy ending. I mean, like she's gonna 1:21:19.760 --> 1:21:22.360 get custody of Katie. Like you don't lose child custody 1:21:22.400 --> 1:21:24.280 for having an affair, you know. 1:21:24.920 --> 1:21:26.880 Yeah, he's the one that like broke the law and 1:21:27.280 --> 1:21:29.280 is in the FBI and has to try Yeah, and is. 1:21:29.240 --> 1:21:32.760 An FBI informant. It's not exactly a safe environment for 1:21:32.840 --> 1:21:33.240 a child. 1:21:33.920 --> 1:21:36.960 Okay, But why I get that she cheated, but like 1:21:37.360 --> 1:21:37.880 I don't know. 1:21:38.120 --> 1:21:47.280 Yes, it's a hard ending. Okay. 1:21:47.479 --> 1:21:51.519 So this is a case that I don't think I've 1:21:51.560 --> 1:21:52.920 ever heard of before. 1:21:52.840 --> 1:21:54.799 And it's a wild one. 1:21:54.920 --> 1:21:56.960 It has some elements of what we see and this 1:21:57.040 --> 1:21:59.200 has for you, but not not. 1:21:59.400 --> 1:22:02.200 It's not a apples to apples at all. Okay. 1:22:02.640 --> 1:22:05.479 Okay, So this case happened two years before this episode 1:22:05.520 --> 1:22:08.160 came out, so there are some, you know, influences, but 1:22:08.160 --> 1:22:10.800 I wouldn't say it's like exactly same storyline like we 1:22:10.840 --> 1:22:12.880 sometimes see. So in January of two thousand and four, 1:22:13.320 --> 1:22:17.120 Michelle Nice, who is aged thirty four, is found dead 1:22:17.240 --> 1:22:20.479 in her still running SUV a mile from her home 1:22:20.560 --> 1:22:23.799 in central New Jersey. It's a snowy night, it seems 1:22:23.840 --> 1:22:26.760 to everybody like her car skid it off the road. 1:22:26.800 --> 1:22:29.920 On ice or snow, and it went down this embankment 1:22:30.000 --> 1:22:32.959 into a creek at the bottom. Okay, there's a suitcase 1:22:33.000 --> 1:22:36.439 in the car filled with clothes, so she was on 1:22:36.479 --> 1:22:37.559 her way to stay somewhere. 1:22:37.600 --> 1:22:38.080 Who knows. 1:22:38.400 --> 1:22:41.840 But one weird thing that the police find our footprints 1:22:41.880 --> 1:22:45.000 in the snow going from the passenger side of the 1:22:45.160 --> 1:22:49.080 car up to the road. So and Michelle also had 1:22:49.080 --> 1:22:53.240 this super gnarly head injury, more serious it seems, than 1:22:53.280 --> 1:22:56.360 one that would be sustained in a car accident. So 1:22:56.640 --> 1:23:00.000 to this detective named Dan mchown, he said, it didn't 1:23:00.120 --> 1:23:01.200 look like a car accident. 1:23:01.280 --> 1:23:03.400 It looked like murder. So that's like what he thought. 1:23:03.520 --> 1:23:08.200 So Michelle's background is she is She's Filipina. She's a 1:23:08.240 --> 1:23:11.720 Filipina immigrant, the wife of a local pharmaceutical executive and 1:23:11.880 --> 1:23:16.679 entrepreneur named doctor Jonathan Nice. They had three children together 1:23:17.080 --> 1:23:20.439 and lived in a gated community in Hopewell Township, New Jersey. 1:23:21.560 --> 1:23:23.120 So this is like a central part of New Jersey 1:23:23.120 --> 1:23:24.760 that I actually don't really know a lot about. But 1:23:26.360 --> 1:23:30.599 detective McEwan when he saw this woman in the car, 1:23:30.680 --> 1:23:33.360 he knew exactly who she was right away because the 1:23:33.400 --> 1:23:37.360 previous summer doctor Nice had filed her husband, doctor Knics, 1:23:37.400 --> 1:23:40.160 had filed a complaint. And by the way, he's a PhD. 1:23:40.960 --> 1:23:43.200 Just less anyone think he's like a medical doctor. He's 1:23:43.240 --> 1:23:45.439 a PhD, which is still hard to get. But and 1:23:45.760 --> 1:23:48.840 he had found a complaint with the police about a 1:23:48.880 --> 1:23:52.679 man stalking his wife, Michelle. So when he found the wife, 1:23:52.720 --> 1:23:55.719 he immediately calls doctor Nice and he tells the detective 1:23:55.720 --> 1:23:58.120 that he hasn't seen his wife since four PM the 1:23:58.200 --> 1:24:02.920 day of the accident, and that when he left her, 1:24:02.960 --> 1:24:06.920 she was getting ready for her job selling Chanelle at Macy's. 1:24:07.280 --> 1:24:11.280 So a little backstory about this couple, and I don't 1:24:11.320 --> 1:24:11.680 love it. 1:24:12.240 --> 1:24:13.960 Nice is like this dorky loser. 1:24:14.120 --> 1:24:16.799 He's working as a college professor in like North Carolina. 1:24:16.840 --> 1:24:19.840 He's thirty nine. The article I read on NBC. 1:24:19.520 --> 1:24:25.320 News said, quote an acquaintance steered him toward a friend, Comma, 1:24:25.360 --> 1:24:28.880 a teenager living in the Philippines who'd been advertising in 1:24:28.920 --> 1:24:30.479 a newspaper for a pen pal. 1:24:31.160 --> 1:24:33.519 So who the. 1:24:33.520 --> 1:24:37.160 Acquaintance is friends with the Philippine teenager? Like, I don't 1:24:37.240 --> 1:24:41.360 understand that, but it sounds very sketchy, much like our 1:24:41.760 --> 1:24:43.920 don't trust a man who goes on vacation alone, Like 1:24:44.200 --> 1:24:47.400 you're trying to pen pal some random teen in the Philippines, Like, 1:24:47.400 --> 1:24:48.479 what are you talking about? 1:24:48.920 --> 1:24:50.680 So they start a pen pal. I can't think of 1:24:50.720 --> 1:24:52.840 a more shady sentence, to be honest. 1:24:52.600 --> 1:24:55.839 Yes, and I think she's eighteen when they start pen paling, 1:24:56.439 --> 1:24:59.600 or nineteen. She's eighteen at least, though still like we 1:24:59.600 --> 1:25:02.240 always s just because you're a hair over legal doesn't 1:25:02.240 --> 1:25:05.120 really make it less creepy to me. So they start 1:25:05.120 --> 1:25:07.679 pen paling. He goes to the Philippines to meet her, 1:25:07.960 --> 1:25:11.040 and within a few weeks they've gotten married. In the Philippines, 1:25:11.640 --> 1:25:15.600 she is okay, sorry, they're nineteen when they first start corresponding. 1:25:15.880 --> 1:25:19.400 When they get married, he's forty and she's twenty. Okay, 1:25:19.600 --> 1:25:22.080 But he also lied to her about his age by 1:25:22.160 --> 1:25:25.320 nine years, so she thinks she's twenty marrying a thirty 1:25:25.360 --> 1:25:27.880 one year old. She's marrying a foty year old okay. 1:25:28.080 --> 1:25:30.439 She doesn't find out until years later that he's been 1:25:30.520 --> 1:25:33.920 lying about his age. So back in the US, he 1:25:34.000 --> 1:25:37.519 becomes pretty successful, like developing drugs and treatments, and he 1:25:37.560 --> 1:25:40.439 has a job at a pharmaceutical company, which I'm assuming 1:25:40.439 --> 1:25:42.720 that's kind of where the biotech pharmaceuticals. 1:25:42.720 --> 1:25:45.759 Some of this comes into play, and. 1:25:48.240 --> 1:25:49.720 You know, they have a nice they have like a 1:25:49.800 --> 1:25:52.679 house that's over a million dollars. She's wearing really nice clothes. 1:25:52.880 --> 1:25:54.840 Her friends are like, she's living her dream. She's got 1:25:54.880 --> 1:25:57.720 a great life. And they have three kids together. But 1:25:57.840 --> 1:26:01.479 then she starts having an affair with a gardener at 1:26:01.520 --> 1:26:03.160 their house named Enyo. 1:26:03.600 --> 1:26:04.400 That's his nickname. 1:26:04.439 --> 1:26:07.800 His real name is Miguel de Jess, who's aged thirty five. 1:26:08.400 --> 1:26:12.080 So when the business success started to cool off, like 1:26:12.120 --> 1:26:14.400 a bunch of the treatments for like asthma and stuff 1:26:14.400 --> 1:26:17.439 he was working on actually failed once they people were 1:26:17.439 --> 1:26:19.360 all excited about them and he was raising millions of 1:26:19.360 --> 1:26:21.120 dollars to get and then these treatments like failed in 1:26:21.160 --> 1:26:23.320 their trials. So he like loses a bunch of his 1:26:23.360 --> 1:26:25.800 success at work. He gets fired from his company, and 1:26:25.840 --> 1:26:28.360 then he becomes a stay at home dad. He writes 1:26:28.400 --> 1:26:32.040 a book of poems for children. Famously, children love poetry. 1:26:32.200 --> 1:26:35.160 I mean, there's Shelle Silverstein. I feel like there's Shelle Silverstein, 1:26:35.200 --> 1:26:36.720 and like that's it, Like I don't really think we 1:26:36.960 --> 1:26:38.400 there's like a lot of others, but. 1:26:39.040 --> 1:26:40.280 Then they never got published. 1:26:40.320 --> 1:26:42.559 His book of poems, and so now he's like, wants 1:26:42.560 --> 1:26:44.120 to be a stay at home dad. He's home all 1:26:44.160 --> 1:26:46.640 the time. And Michelle's annoyed. She's like got to move 1:26:46.680 --> 1:26:50.559 her rendezvous with her lover to motels. And the article 1:26:50.600 --> 1:26:54.679 I was reading calls the motels hot sheet motels. I've 1:26:54.720 --> 1:26:58.680 never heard that hot sheets motels, which obviously got me 1:26:58.840 --> 1:27:02.479 at hour. So I'll just go to fucking leave, which 1:27:02.560 --> 1:27:04.519 I just don't like hot sheets. I don't like the 1:27:04.560 --> 1:27:08.960 sound of hot sheets. But doctor Nice has no idea 1:27:09.000 --> 1:27:11.160 that this affair is going on until he says one 1:27:11.200 --> 1:27:13.280 day he got a call and the guy on the 1:27:13.320 --> 1:27:15.840 line says, I have something you need to listen to, 1:27:16.360 --> 1:27:18.960 and then plays a tape of Michelle having sex with someone, 1:27:19.280 --> 1:27:21.479 and he could tell it was her by her distinctive voice, 1:27:21.520 --> 1:27:22.799 and he said that the guy. 1:27:22.640 --> 1:27:24.200 On the tape said her name as well. 1:27:24.720 --> 1:27:27.200 So then the caller hangs up, calls right back and 1:27:27.200 --> 1:27:30.520 asks for five hundred thousand dollars or he'll release the footage, 1:27:30.720 --> 1:27:33.800 audio and video. So Nice goes to the cops and 1:27:33.880 --> 1:27:38.400 the FBI about this extortion attempt, and that's how he 1:27:38.479 --> 1:27:41.920 becomes aware of Detective Dan McEwan who has now later 1:27:42.000 --> 1:27:45.879 found the wife's body, and he investigated this blackmail situation, 1:27:46.560 --> 1:27:49.400 and Michelle eventually admitted to her affair, but she said 1:27:49.439 --> 1:27:51.960 she'd broken it off when En you know, started like 1:27:52.000 --> 1:27:56.120 demanding money and stalking her. This sounds to me like 1:27:56.200 --> 1:27:58.840 it could be what she was just telling the authorities. 1:27:58.840 --> 1:28:00.400 And her husband be like, oh no, I broke it off. 1:28:00.400 --> 1:28:02.360 I broke it up, but it was still happening. So 1:28:02.560 --> 1:28:05.679 he ends up getting a restraining order against his wife's lover. 1:28:05.880 --> 1:28:07.439 I don't know how because I think you have to 1:28:07.479 --> 1:28:10.280 prove that they've been doing something wrong and. 1:28:11.400 --> 1:28:12.040 Fucking your wife. 1:28:12.040 --> 1:28:14.080 I don't think entitles you to a restraining order, but 1:28:14.360 --> 1:28:16.439 you know, it's not great, but it's not like a 1:28:16.479 --> 1:28:21.360 legal behavior. So doctor Knight, after his wife's body is found, 1:28:21.640 --> 1:28:25.519 Doctor NICs tells the investigator mcewn like, this is like 1:28:25.600 --> 1:28:28.920 things have been going so well between us, and then 1:28:28.960 --> 1:28:31.599 he goes, we were barely ever fighting, you know, except 1:28:31.600 --> 1:28:34.040 for when she talked about walking out or like leaving me, 1:28:34.680 --> 1:28:37.760 And they go, okay, when was that last fight? And 1:28:37.760 --> 1:28:41.679 he goes, last night and so doune done, Like that's 1:28:41.720 --> 1:28:44.320 the night Michelle died. And it's like dude, you said 1:28:44.360 --> 1:28:45.960 you saw her at four o'clock when she was going 1:28:46.000 --> 1:28:48.000 to work. But now you're like admitting that you fought 1:28:48.320 --> 1:28:52.720 that night, So like it's confusing. So they interrogated him 1:28:52.760 --> 1:28:56.920 again and he finally spills. Doctor Knics claims that Michelle 1:28:56.960 --> 1:29:00.679 tried to kill him in the garage, that she came 1:29:00.720 --> 1:29:03.519 home that night from one of her trysts with Enyo. 1:29:03.720 --> 1:29:06.920 In a rage, she called her husband age, I do 1:29:07.120 --> 1:29:10.400 like that name, Enyo. M hmm, it's cute. 1:29:10.520 --> 1:29:10.760 I don't. 1:29:10.840 --> 1:29:11.120 I known't. 1:29:11.200 --> 1:29:14.559 Yeah, Like, can't you imagine me with a little kind 1:29:14.600 --> 1:29:16.120 of furry little dog named Enyo? 1:29:16.520 --> 1:29:20.360 Yeah, I can't. Actually you're Enyo. I gotta take Nyo 1:29:20.439 --> 1:29:23.600 to the vat. Yeah, I I can see it. So 1:29:23.800 --> 1:29:26.839 he alleges that his wife called him a fucking freak 1:29:26.960 --> 1:29:31.000 quote unquote, and then lunged at him using a stiletto 1:29:31.200 --> 1:29:34.960 for a knife, Like I know stiletto's are sharp, but 1:29:35.000 --> 1:29:38.960 they're not actually razor sharp, like you, I don't know. 1:29:39.200 --> 1:29:40.640 You can only do so much damage. I mean, I 1:29:40.680 --> 1:29:43.080 know you could, like I guess you could like impale 1:29:43.080 --> 1:29:43.559 someone in the. 1:29:43.479 --> 1:29:45.920 Head with one. I've seen that in a movie, like 1:29:46.000 --> 1:29:49.240 a white female. Well, yeah, but you can like pop 1:29:49.280 --> 1:29:49.799 an eyeball. 1:29:49.840 --> 1:29:52.479 I think, oh yeah, yeah, but like that she was 1:29:52.479 --> 1:29:54.360 like lunging at him with a stiletto. I mean, she's 1:29:54.400 --> 1:29:56.880 a much smaller woman than him. She's very tiny, he's 1:29:56.960 --> 1:29:58.720 very big. Like, I don't know, I don't know that 1:29:58.720 --> 1:29:59.960 I'm buying the story from the job. 1:30:00.000 --> 1:30:02.840 I think there was a did that Atlantic crime have 1:30:02.880 --> 1:30:06.360 a heel or there was evidence remember that dude who 1:30:06.400 --> 1:30:06.639 was like. 1:30:06.560 --> 1:30:09.519 A oh, there was one that somebody got stabbed multiple 1:30:09.600 --> 1:30:12.720 times out the weapon was a siletto. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:30:13.720 --> 1:30:16.519 But I think that's once they're incapacitated with the Yeah, 1:30:16.520 --> 1:30:21.400 I don't know. But he also reported that she fell 1:30:21.479 --> 1:30:24.320 out of the car and hit her head on the 1:30:24.320 --> 1:30:28.120 concrete floor of the garage, but continue to thrash around, 1:30:28.600 --> 1:30:31.759 at which point he pounded her head into the floor 1:30:32.120 --> 1:30:35.320 to you know, get control of her, as you do 1:30:35.400 --> 1:30:37.800 when someone's thrashing, you just slam their head into a 1:30:37.840 --> 1:30:40.240 concrete floor of a garage, And that's when he realized 1:30:40.280 --> 1:30:44.080 she was dead. Then he decides that to make it 1:30:44.120 --> 1:30:46.880 look like an accident, he wanted to make it look 1:30:46.960 --> 1:30:49.599 like she was driving the car, so he puts her 1:30:49.640 --> 1:30:52.800 in the driver's seat, of the car and drives a 1:30:52.840 --> 1:30:56.320 mile down the road, controlling the gas and breaks of 1:30:56.360 --> 1:30:59.280 the car with an ice scraper, like the thing that 1:30:59.360 --> 1:31:02.160 scrapes the eye off your car. He's like, she's in 1:31:02.200 --> 1:31:04.920 the car and I don't know how he's steering the 1:31:04.920 --> 1:31:08.719 wheel and using this ice scraper to use to press 1:31:08.720 --> 1:31:11.080 on the gas and press on the brake. Like truly 1:31:11.160 --> 1:31:14.160 weakened at Bernie's hilarity. Almost if it wasn't like a 1:31:14.160 --> 1:31:16.360 wilandife becomes her. I mean, when does that happen and 1:31:16.439 --> 1:31:17.120 death becomes her? 1:31:17.280 --> 1:31:19.519 Well, you don't see it, but that was like the plan, 1:31:19.760 --> 1:31:21.559 as they have like a little act out. So the 1:31:21.600 --> 1:31:24.600 plan was to like send her off a cliff just 1:31:24.640 --> 1:31:25.840 being another drunk driver. 1:31:26.200 --> 1:31:32.960 Yes, yes, boy, I love that movie. So, like, I 1:31:32.960 --> 1:31:35.719 don't know, I'm not buying any of this shit. Doctor 1:31:35.880 --> 1:31:39.800 Nice was charged with murder. He pled not guilty, and 1:31:39.840 --> 1:31:41.519 his he pled not guilty on the grounds that it 1:31:41.520 --> 1:31:44.240 was an accident. Okay, So he was also charged with 1:31:44.280 --> 1:31:47.639 the lesser charge of tampering with evidence, which is moving 1:31:47.680 --> 1:31:50.280 her dead body and sending it off of a fucking embankment. 1:31:50.960 --> 1:31:53.400 Nice's lawyer, Robin Lord, argues that he did not murder 1:31:53.439 --> 1:31:55.120 his wife, and that they can't prove that he did. 1:31:55.400 --> 1:31:57.920 And she paints this picture of Michelle as a slut 1:31:57.920 --> 1:32:00.240 who is ignoring her kids so she can go and 1:32:00.280 --> 1:32:04.679 have all these affairs. And she also claimed that Michelle 1:32:04.680 --> 1:32:07.479 and Enyo had worked together to extort doctor Knice, that 1:32:07.560 --> 1:32:11.840 she was like behind the extortion attempt with the call, 1:32:11.960 --> 1:32:14.360 the phone call and everything. She said Michelle wanted out 1:32:14.360 --> 1:32:16.160 of the marriage, she wanted to make some money on 1:32:16.160 --> 1:32:19.879 her way out. But if Michelle's injuries were the results 1:32:19.880 --> 1:32:22.519 of an accident, people are wondering, like, why didn't he 1:32:22.600 --> 1:32:26.960 call for help, Like, instead, you hatch this insane plan 1:32:27.080 --> 1:32:29.240 to like make it look like a car crash. 1:32:29.280 --> 1:32:32.160 And his lawyer, his lawyer goes, oh, well he panicked. 1:32:32.160 --> 1:32:33.040 He's not proud of it. 1:32:33.560 --> 1:32:37.200 And his lawyer tried to argue, don't forget he's a 1:32:37.240 --> 1:32:40.880 successful pharma guy, Like if he wanted her dead, he 1:32:40.880 --> 1:32:43.599 would have concocted a drug to kill her, like if 1:32:43.600 --> 1:32:45.160 that was his plan, and he probably could have found 1:32:45.200 --> 1:32:48.320 a drug that would be like untraceable, like undetectable in 1:32:48.320 --> 1:32:51.840 her system. So if that's like, but that doesn't that 1:32:51.920 --> 1:32:54.559 only argues against a premeditated murder. He could have easily 1:32:54.640 --> 1:32:59.840 killed her in rage, right. Prosecutor Doris Galucci tried to. 1:33:01.120 --> 1:33:03.360 I didn't know this, but you know my guy, David Wilson. 1:33:03.479 --> 1:33:07.080 I watched some new more criminology videos from him, and 1:33:07.320 --> 1:33:09.960 he said, like this is in the UK. He's English, 1:33:10.000 --> 1:33:14.679 but that most murders are just like two guys fighting 1:33:14.720 --> 1:33:16.320 at a bar and killing one another. 1:33:17.360 --> 1:33:17.920 Wow. 1:33:18.360 --> 1:33:20.719 He says, that's majority, Like we focus on the serial 1:33:20.800 --> 1:33:23.200 killers and all these things, but he goes, most murders 1:33:23.240 --> 1:33:25.080 are like ten seconds of. 1:33:25.080 --> 1:33:29.840 Rage and domestic I would say domestic violence like men 1:33:30.680 --> 1:33:33.200 walking in on their wives cheating and then murdering them immediately. 1:33:33.280 --> 1:33:33.920 Stuff like that. 1:33:34.439 --> 1:33:37.559 Yeah, he was just saying it's like he made he 1:33:37.600 --> 1:33:40.960 said it so well, but it's like proving your manhood 1:33:41.160 --> 1:33:43.800 and like, yeah, that are versions of like what we 1:33:44.240 --> 1:33:47.040 think of manhood is so stupid where it's like and 1:33:47.080 --> 1:33:48.920 it's same with serial killers and all these killers. You know, 1:33:48.960 --> 1:33:50.800 it's a loss of power. It's losers trying to gain 1:33:50.840 --> 1:33:53.080 power in this world. And so it's the same kind 1:33:53.080 --> 1:33:55.120 of concept, like it's two guys fighting at a bar 1:33:56.080 --> 1:33:58.559 and it's one of them being like I need to 1:33:58.560 --> 1:34:02.320 earn my manhood back, and he just says, so many 1:34:02.360 --> 1:34:04.440 people get murdered because of just drunk. 1:34:04.240 --> 1:34:07.080 And so much and more important than your freedom too, 1:34:07.160 --> 1:34:09.120 which is wild, Like you know, you're if you're like 1:34:09.479 --> 1:34:11.000 in a bar fight or you're in any of the 1:34:11.120 --> 1:34:12.120 like a lot of the times, it's like you know 1:34:12.160 --> 1:34:13.880 you're gonna get caught. It's like you're not even thinking 1:34:13.920 --> 1:34:17.479 about how your your manhood is more important than your freedom, 1:34:17.600 --> 1:34:20.000 your life, kids, you have at home, any anything you 1:34:20.000 --> 1:34:20.840 have else going on. 1:34:20.960 --> 1:34:23.720 It's like gotta prove my manhood. 1:34:23.280 --> 1:34:26.200 Right yeah, and I don't know how waste you are 1:34:26.200 --> 1:34:29.160 the angry yeah, he says, it's like low like just 1:34:29.760 --> 1:34:32.160 I mean, what I love about him is how much 1:34:32.160 --> 1:34:33.680 he talks about just like. 1:34:35.120 --> 1:34:39.240 Men like toxic masculinity and grime. 1:34:39.439 --> 1:34:44.120 Yeah yeah, but like because at least with premeditated, with 1:34:44.160 --> 1:34:47.000 a plan, you know what's you know, like right, but 1:34:47.160 --> 1:34:49.519 can you just say or maybe you just want to 1:34:49.560 --> 1:34:51.920 punch someone but they fall. 1:34:52.040 --> 1:34:53.880 And they're dead and now that's it. 1:34:54.520 --> 1:34:57.559 Yeah, I just I've never been in a physical fight, 1:34:57.640 --> 1:34:59.240 knock on wood, I hope I never am. 1:34:59.520 --> 1:35:01.240 But like, but it's linked the. 1:35:01.200 --> 1:35:03.759 Same question we always have too, which is like okay, 1:35:03.800 --> 1:35:06.960 your wife's gonna leave, just get divorced, Like why are 1:35:06.960 --> 1:35:07.680 you gonna kill her? 1:35:07.800 --> 1:35:08.000 Yeah? 1:35:08.040 --> 1:35:10.639 Man, but it's manhood, right, Like it's like you don't 1:35:10.680 --> 1:35:14.840 need to do that, or you and you're you're egotistical 1:35:14.920 --> 1:35:16.080 enough that you think you're gonna get away with it, 1:35:16.120 --> 1:35:19.240 and you're probably not, although I'm sure many have. Uh 1:35:19.600 --> 1:35:21.120 and wait until we get to the end of this story, 1:35:21.160 --> 1:35:26.960 because it's not great, so uh. Prosecutor Doris Galucci love 1:35:27.000 --> 1:35:30.160 her name, tried to steer the jury away from Michelle's 1:35:30.160 --> 1:35:34.320 affair and more towards doctor Knight's brutally murdering murdering her 1:35:34.400 --> 1:35:37.160 like her affairs are not on trial here, Like what's 1:35:37.200 --> 1:35:40.679 on trial is how she was killed, and she made 1:35:40.680 --> 1:35:43.519 the case that Nice was jealous and controlling. Michelle's best 1:35:43.520 --> 1:35:47.360 friend testified that doctor and I needed to know where 1:35:47.360 --> 1:35:49.600 Michelle was at all times, wanted to make sure that 1:35:49.640 --> 1:35:51.519 wherever she was there were no men. 1:35:52.560 --> 1:35:53.000 She said. 1:35:53.040 --> 1:35:56.760 Michelle couldn't fulfill her dream of modeling. She had been 1:35:56.800 --> 1:35:59.200 offered a role in a friend's commercial and he said no. 1:35:59.640 --> 1:36:01.360 She could even join a gym because she knew there 1:36:01.360 --> 1:36:02.760 would be like too many men there, and that her 1:36:02.800 --> 1:36:05.760 husband wouldn't be into it, and Glucy went on to 1:36:05.840 --> 1:36:08.240 argue that the forensic evidence supports that he threw her 1:36:08.280 --> 1:36:10.719 on the garage floor and bashed her head against the floor, 1:36:10.800 --> 1:36:13.160 killing her, which I think also the head bashing is 1:36:13.160 --> 1:36:15.240 what this also is. 1:36:15.160 --> 1:36:17.599 In common with as You episode. 1:36:17.800 --> 1:36:21.160 But another piece of evidence is that the crime scene 1:36:21.200 --> 1:36:26.880 investigators found cut up size fourteen boot in soles all 1:36:27.000 --> 1:36:30.920 over the garage in little pieces, and they jigsaw those 1:36:30.920 --> 1:36:33.759 babies back together and they match the footprints in the snow, 1:36:34.400 --> 1:36:37.160 So it's like he does admit to being there. So 1:36:37.280 --> 1:36:40.439 that's not like a smoking gun or anything, but it's 1:36:40.520 --> 1:36:43.320 kind of like you had the presence of mind to 1:36:43.360 --> 1:36:47.920 slice up your shoe in soles to try to get 1:36:48.040 --> 1:36:51.280 not get caught, like you knew that you were doing 1:36:51.320 --> 1:36:56.559 something wrong and committing a crime. So no, apparently also 1:36:56.880 --> 1:37:00.439 no tapes of Michelle and Enyo having sex wherever found, 1:37:01.000 --> 1:37:03.360 so one could question if he made up the entire 1:37:03.400 --> 1:37:06.800 extortion thing up as well, you know, as like a 1:37:06.840 --> 1:37:10.360 way to file a restraining order against this man, as 1:37:10.400 --> 1:37:14.559 a way to you know, let her know I'm going 1:37:14.640 --> 1:37:16.799 to call the FBI, like I'm gonna get people involved. 1:37:16.800 --> 1:37:18.840 If you are if you're gonna be unfaithful to me 1:37:18.960 --> 1:37:21.439 or whatever. Who knows. So he goes to trial for 1:37:21.479 --> 1:37:22.120 her murder. 1:37:22.240 --> 1:37:25.559 The trial lasts five weeks, the jury deliberated for three days, 1:37:25.920 --> 1:37:28.800 but they do not find him guilty of murder. They 1:37:28.840 --> 1:37:35.720 find him guilty of passion provocated manslaughter, which I had 1:37:35.760 --> 1:37:36.200 never heard of. 1:37:36.560 --> 1:37:39.639 They'll make it, they'll make any excuse to murder, right, 1:37:39.680 --> 1:37:40.519 what are you talking about? 1:37:40.960 --> 1:37:42.479 I just had not heard of. 1:37:42.600 --> 1:37:47.120 It's also known as heat of passion manslaughter or voluntary manslaughter. 1:37:47.720 --> 1:37:48.639 But yeah, it's like. 1:37:50.600 --> 1:37:56.280 A severe like flash of rage or or reaction causes 1:37:56.320 --> 1:37:58.519 it to happen, the crime of passion or whatever. 1:37:58.960 --> 1:38:00.360 But I just had not heard that. 1:38:01.200 --> 1:38:02.680 I thought it was like usually like we find you 1:38:02.680 --> 1:38:05.280 guilty of manslaughter, but not passion provocation manslaughter. 1:38:05.280 --> 1:38:06.320 So that's what he has found. 1:38:06.080 --> 1:38:09.080 Guilty of, and he is sentenced to, you know, a 1:38:09.200 --> 1:38:13.240 whopping five to ten years for ending a woman's life, 1:38:13.280 --> 1:38:15.920 a mother of three, a person with family and friends, 1:38:15.960 --> 1:38:19.960 like a woman whose only problem was not wanting to 1:38:20.000 --> 1:38:22.120 fuck her boring husband. 1:38:22.160 --> 1:38:22.920 Well, even this. 1:38:22.880 --> 1:38:26.360 Passion, it's like excusing this behavior because it reminds me 1:38:26.400 --> 1:38:29.320 of like gay panic and stuff like that yeah, none. 1:38:29.080 --> 1:38:29.920 Of this is real. 1:38:30.400 --> 1:38:34.920 Yeah, yeah, Like I freaked out that yeah exactly. That's 1:38:35.000 --> 1:38:39.080 what a crime of passion would almost be considered as well, Like, oh, 1:38:39.120 --> 1:38:40.880 I found out that a gig guy hit on me 1:38:40.920 --> 1:38:42.840 and I freaked out. I found out he was gay, 1:38:42.880 --> 1:38:46.200 and I went crazy, right, I saw red blah blah blah. 1:38:46.400 --> 1:38:50.400 So they they thought Nice had acted in the heat 1:38:50.400 --> 1:38:52.360 of passion when he confronted Michelle in the garage. He 1:38:52.400 --> 1:38:54.720 was sentenced to five to ten years for killing his 1:38:54.760 --> 1:38:57.720 wife and tampering with evidence, which is so fucked that's 1:38:57.760 --> 1:39:01.960 such a short sentence. Nice told Dateline quote unquote, I 1:39:02.000 --> 1:39:03.880 do not expect to be in jail for that period 1:39:03.880 --> 1:39:06.080 of time. I expect to win my appeal, and actually 1:39:06.400 --> 1:39:08.559 I expect to put other people in jail who lied 1:39:08.600 --> 1:39:09.240 to put me here. 1:39:09.439 --> 1:39:12.080 You can mark my words on that end quote. 1:39:12.680 --> 1:39:15.240 So he did appeal, he did not get win his appeal, 1:39:15.320 --> 1:39:17.960 but he did serve five years and was released in 1:39:18.040 --> 1:39:18.639 twenty ten. 1:39:18.960 --> 1:39:20.679 Okay, so he only. 1:39:20.520 --> 1:39:24.200 Served five years for murdering his wife, which in my opinion, 1:39:24.240 --> 1:39:24.800 he murdered her. 1:39:24.800 --> 1:39:28.400 That's opinion. But I mean, I just don't think anybody. 1:39:28.080 --> 1:39:30.920 Ever falls onto a floor getting out of a car 1:39:31.680 --> 1:39:35.719 in the with the force to kill them. Of course 1:39:35.800 --> 1:39:38.400 it can happen. Things can happen like one hit, punch 1:39:38.479 --> 1:39:40.960 rules and stuff like that, but it just doesn't. 1:39:41.280 --> 1:39:44.400 This doesn't muster. This is a muster the smell test 1:39:44.439 --> 1:39:44.680 for me. 1:39:45.880 --> 1:39:48.080 He ended up writing a book when he got out 1:39:48.080 --> 1:39:50.439 of jail, and by book I mean an ebook, and 1:39:50.479 --> 1:39:54.559 it is called under Color of Law colon the Deliberate 1:39:54.600 --> 1:39:57.439 Conviction of an innocent Man and the Destruction of a Family, 1:39:57.800 --> 1:40:00.280 which when you google it it says it it's a 1:40:00.360 --> 1:40:04.360 true account. And he has completely changed a lot of 1:40:04.360 --> 1:40:06.280 the details of what happened in this ebook. I mean, 1:40:06.280 --> 1:40:08.200 no one's like reading the fucking ebook. But it's like 1:40:08.760 --> 1:40:10.360 he was saying ebook things that. 1:40:10.320 --> 1:40:12.760 Were live of like I just think of the TV 1:40:12.880 --> 1:40:15.599 show Girls, and like how funny the storyline was about 1:40:15.600 --> 1:40:17.439 like ebook not being a real book and stuff, and 1:40:17.439 --> 1:40:18.559 it's like, yes. 1:40:18.479 --> 1:40:19.000 I just can't. 1:40:19.000 --> 1:40:21.000 I mean, I already hate this guy, but it's like, 1:40:21.560 --> 1:40:22.639 shut up with her ebook. 1:40:23.000 --> 1:40:24.160 I know, I know. 1:40:24.800 --> 1:40:27.360 The first time I heard about ebooks was our friend Allison, 1:40:27.439 --> 1:40:30.439 who wrote an ebook but now has a real book 1:40:30.479 --> 1:40:32.760 coming out. That's not like I don't mean to say 1:40:32.800 --> 1:40:35.719 real or not real, but a physical book, a physical book. 1:40:35.760 --> 1:40:39.200 But yeah, ebooks. I guess anybody can just publish an 1:40:39.200 --> 1:40:41.519 ebook like and say it's a true story because no 1:40:41.520 --> 1:40:44.400 one's really there's no editor putting their name behind it. 1:40:44.439 --> 1:40:47.120 There's no you know, you can put anything out there 1:40:47.120 --> 1:40:50.519 and say this is a true story. But it's his account, 1:40:50.560 --> 1:40:54.720 and he fully changed shit. Shit that was not just like, 1:40:54.760 --> 1:40:57.040 oh I didn't murder her like stuff that just wasn't 1:40:57.120 --> 1:40:58.759 true about the day that it happened. 1:40:59.280 --> 1:41:02.599 So don't worry. This gets worse after he gets out 1:41:02.600 --> 1:41:03.000 of prison. 1:41:03.360 --> 1:41:07.160 He starts, he gets back to work doing biopharma or whatever, 1:41:07.800 --> 1:41:09.960 not bio, but yeah, pharmaceutical stuff. 1:41:10.120 --> 1:41:13.400 He starts developing a treatment. 1:41:13.000 --> 1:41:17.639 For dog cancer, which is completely fraudulent, has zero proof 1:41:17.640 --> 1:41:23.040 of working. He has started all these accounts, all these 1:41:23.280 --> 1:41:26.439 companies that sell this this dog stuff, and people are 1:41:26.479 --> 1:41:30.040 paying huge money thinking, oh, this is going to help 1:41:30.040 --> 1:41:33.559 my dog that's dying of cancer. So the prosecutors allege 1:41:33.600 --> 1:41:36.240 that he used various websites to promote and ship fake 1:41:36.360 --> 1:41:41.599 drugs such as Temesol and natural Zone, claiming they cured 1:41:41.640 --> 1:41:46.599 a quote wide variety of canine cancers, but literally zero 1:41:46.600 --> 1:41:49.599 proof that they worked. Nice was charged in twenty twenty 1:41:49.600 --> 1:41:53.080 with wirefraud and the interstate shipment of misbranded animal drugs. 1:41:53.680 --> 1:41:56.720 He faced up to thirty two years behind bars and 1:41:56.760 --> 1:41:59.280 a fine of up to one point two five million dollars. 1:41:59.680 --> 1:42:02.840 He was convicted in December of twenty twenty two. I 1:42:02.920 --> 1:42:05.559 found an article that said he was sentenced in twenty 1:42:05.600 --> 1:42:08.160 twenty four. I don't know why the sentencing would have 1:42:08.200 --> 1:42:10.759 taken two years, but the sentence he was for ninety 1:42:10.800 --> 1:42:13.640 seven months, which is more than eight years, which is 1:42:13.920 --> 1:42:16.400 more than he served for murdering a woman for selling 1:42:16.439 --> 1:42:17.559 fake dog medication. 1:42:17.920 --> 1:42:18.320 I love that. 1:42:18.400 --> 1:42:21.040 It's like the criminal justice system and new mothers just 1:42:21.120 --> 1:42:23.599 cannot stop counting years as months, Like what the fuck? 1:42:23.960 --> 1:42:27.000 I know, ninety seven months? Why are we over ninety 1:42:27.120 --> 1:42:27.879 seven months? 1:42:27.920 --> 1:42:30.240 I know it's like eight point eight months or something 1:42:30.280 --> 1:42:32.320 like that when I did it in my calculator, But 1:42:33.160 --> 1:42:37.519 it's just wild that he got five years for killing 1:42:37.520 --> 1:42:41.160 a human being and then eight months for basically stealing 1:42:41.160 --> 1:42:42.960 money from people and giving them false hope. 1:42:43.640 --> 1:42:45.479 Like eight years. Excuse me? Did I say months? I 1:42:45.520 --> 1:42:46.080 meant years? 1:42:46.360 --> 1:42:50.680 So I searched for him in He was sentenced in 1:42:50.680 --> 1:42:52.960 February of twenty twenty four, and then I searched for 1:42:53.080 --> 1:42:56.880 him in the federal inmate prison system and he's listed 1:42:56.880 --> 1:43:00.000 as deceased as of July thirteenth, of twenty twenty four. 1:43:00.760 --> 1:43:03.120 So I'm wondering if he died in prison or he 1:43:03.240 --> 1:43:05.160 took his own life or something, and there was and 1:43:05.240 --> 1:43:05.840 I couldn't find it. 1:43:06.200 --> 1:43:09.680 So this isn't surprising. Like we're in America. People care 1:43:09.720 --> 1:43:11.280 about money. You don't fuck with money. You don't fuck 1:43:11.280 --> 1:43:13.479 with the government's money. I mean, my friend's brother spent 1:43:13.520 --> 1:43:17.080 what like five years in prison for taking the government's money. 1:43:17.120 --> 1:43:21.360 Like, yeah, they like their money. They don't care about women, yep. 1:43:21.920 --> 1:43:24.559 I mean he was stealing money from innocent customers too, 1:43:24.640 --> 1:43:28.000 you know, like people, but like, yeah. 1:43:27.800 --> 1:43:30.240 I mean he So I can't find anything. 1:43:30.240 --> 1:43:32.120 I can't find an obituary about Oh my god, I 1:43:32.160 --> 1:43:33.639 can't find Remember. 1:43:33.840 --> 1:43:36.800 I was like telling a story about how someone. 1:43:36.479 --> 1:43:39.360 That I find annoying was dating this Republican girl who 1:43:39.400 --> 1:43:42.000 was actually the Elizabeth Holmes of rape Kits and all that. 1:43:42.160 --> 1:43:44.160 Yes, I guess she's dating Elon Musk. 1:43:45.800 --> 1:43:49.040 Totally tracks, Yeah, that totally fucking tracks. 1:43:49.160 --> 1:43:52.439 I mean, like that girl is or Martin Scurrelli or 1:43:52.479 --> 1:43:52.840 something like. 1:43:52.800 --> 1:43:55.120 One of these freaks, one of these he dated Martin Screlly. 1:43:55.160 --> 1:43:58.120 I think, yeah, yeah, so I think it's Elon now yeah, yeah, 1:43:58.200 --> 1:44:01.720 she's got no morals at all, this woman and this 1:44:01.800 --> 1:44:03.280 one kind of okay comedia. 1:44:04.160 --> 1:44:07.200 Yeah, I think it's also really really deeply fucked to 1:44:07.240 --> 1:44:10.240 be like, it's like a little bit what's fucked about 1:44:10.240 --> 1:44:12.200 Elizabeth Holmes. It's one thing if you're like, oh, I 1:44:12.280 --> 1:44:15.519 invented this like software and it actually doesn't work the 1:44:15.560 --> 1:44:18.000 way it's supposed to. It's different to be like, I'm 1:44:18.040 --> 1:44:21.080 gonna help women get justice for their sexual assaults when 1:44:21.120 --> 1:44:23.960 you know that the thing you're selling cannot work, like 1:44:24.080 --> 1:44:26.920 will not work that way. You know, Like it's just 1:44:27.360 --> 1:44:29.160 she's a grifter and we're in the golden age of 1:44:29.200 --> 1:44:30.799 the grift. So I don't really know why I'm surprised, 1:44:30.880 --> 1:44:33.759 but have fun with Elon Musk. I hope you managed 1:44:33.760 --> 1:44:35.559 to poke a hole in the condom and have one 1:44:35.560 --> 1:44:38.600 of his kids so that you're set for life or 1:44:38.600 --> 1:44:39.080 I don't. 1:44:38.880 --> 1:44:39.880 Even know if you have to poke a hole. 1:44:39.920 --> 1:44:42.920 He's like a full reproductive abuser if you ask me, Like, 1:44:42.960 --> 1:44:44.560 he is totally a guy that's like I want to 1:44:44.600 --> 1:44:45.320 spread my seed. 1:44:45.360 --> 1:44:49.599 I want to get everybody out there, you know. Oh 1:44:49.640 --> 1:44:51.400 my god. Anyway, if anybody knows. 1:44:51.280 --> 1:44:54.320 What happened to doctor Jonathan Nice, I cannot find out 1:44:54.320 --> 1:44:56.880 how he died, what happened to him. He was supposed 1:44:56.880 --> 1:45:00.240 to be in jail for this dog medication thing, but 1:45:00.439 --> 1:45:03.519 the Federal inmate look up and it has his age correctly. 1:45:03.560 --> 1:45:05.280 So I was thinking it could be a different doctor. 1:45:05.600 --> 1:45:07.160 It could be a different Johnt than Nice, but the 1:45:07.240 --> 1:45:10.360 age that he would have been in twenty twenty four 1:45:10.479 --> 1:45:13.960 is correct. So I want to know if he died 1:45:14.000 --> 1:45:16.160 in prison before he had to report to prison. I 1:45:16.160 --> 1:45:19.320 don't know what the deal was, but I could also 1:45:19.360 --> 1:45:21.880 see this guy being like taking his own life and. 1:45:21.800 --> 1:45:23.400 Being like I'm not going to go to prison or something. 1:45:23.479 --> 1:45:28.720 So who knows, But that's the story. The story really 1:45:28.760 --> 1:45:29.439 has everything. 1:45:29.720 --> 1:45:33.080 Yeah, and I think the connection, as you is like 1:45:33.439 --> 1:45:37.320 the affairs obviously, and like the head injuries. 1:45:37.360 --> 1:45:39.439 I mean, there wasn't like the amnesia and the. 1:45:41.600 --> 1:45:47.759 Specific disability and the families all this like inter family 1:45:47.880 --> 1:45:49.920 cheating when you met in a support group is like 1:45:50.120 --> 1:45:52.040 so wild. 1:45:52.320 --> 1:45:57.080 Anyway, No people be fucking within their family. They betrayal 1:45:57.160 --> 1:45:59.519 is everywhere. Yeah, it's all around us. 1:46:00.439 --> 1:46:02.519 Well, we don't have a guest, so we can dive 1:46:02.880 --> 1:46:08.280 right into that post mortem. 1:46:08.400 --> 1:46:10.639 I mean, I'm thrilled we got to do that episode, 1:46:10.680 --> 1:46:11.960 like we've been waiting for years. 1:46:12.040 --> 1:46:13.479 That's as for you is insane. 1:46:13.520 --> 1:46:16.600 The fact that we continuously just are excited to do episodes. 1:46:17.040 --> 1:46:17.519 Yeah. 1:46:17.640 --> 1:46:20.200 I literally was like, I have perfect pitch. I can't 1:46:20.240 --> 1:46:21.960 wait to do this episode. I like always think about 1:46:22.000 --> 1:46:25.639 this girl. Wait before we get into the post mortem. 1:46:25.880 --> 1:46:29.760 This is so random, but have you seen this interview 1:46:29.800 --> 1:46:34.799 where Sharon Stone is talking about how her marriage ended 1:46:34.840 --> 1:46:39.120 because she got a double mastectomy, And that's literally the 1:46:39.160 --> 1:46:41.599 plot of her SVU character as well. 1:46:42.560 --> 1:46:44.519 Like in the episode. 1:46:44.400 --> 1:46:48.439 Where she is the Ada or whatever Joe Malone, Yes, 1:46:48.600 --> 1:46:55.400 Joe Malone talks to maybe it's uh Isabelle Huper, but 1:46:55.520 --> 1:46:59.360 she talks to somebody being like, my marriage ended because 1:46:59.360 --> 1:47:02.400 I got it up mistectomy for breast cancer and he 1:47:02.439 --> 1:47:03.840 just couldn't look at me the same again or whatever. 1:47:03.840 --> 1:47:05.200 And I was like, she must have brought that in 1:47:05.240 --> 1:47:07.800 from a real life crazy Yah. 1:47:08.000 --> 1:47:13.400 It's really dangerous, Uh trusting a man. 1:47:14.080 --> 1:47:16.000 Yeah, yeah for sure. 1:47:17.360 --> 1:47:19.879 Uh Okay, But to the post mortem of this episode. 1:47:19.880 --> 1:47:22.200 It's like for rich Or and it's like also through 1:47:22.240 --> 1:47:25.720 double mis ectomies. What are we talking about? 1:47:26.479 --> 1:47:29.240 Yes, why get married? Yes, it's crazy. 1:47:29.320 --> 1:47:31.240 It's the way people get married and are like, but 1:47:31.360 --> 1:47:33.439 not if your body changes sickness and in health, but 1:47:33.439 --> 1:47:34.639 if your body changes at all. 1:47:34.760 --> 1:47:35.240 I'm out. 1:47:35.880 --> 1:47:43.080 I this episode is so wild because he's so mean 1:47:43.200 --> 1:47:45.719 at the end. I like, I know that she cheated, 1:47:45.840 --> 1:47:49.240 but I'm like, she doesn't remember it, and you guys have. 1:47:49.240 --> 1:47:52.320 This and I know you're pissed, but there's got to 1:47:52.320 --> 1:47:54.640 be a nicer way. Your daughter is screaming like what 1:47:54.680 --> 1:47:58.080 are you doing? Also, you've done some bad shit, which 1:47:58.120 --> 1:47:58.719 is why you're. 1:47:58.560 --> 1:48:00.960 Being used as like a. 1:48:00.320 --> 1:48:02.360 Pawned by the government, right, Like, isn't he kind of 1:48:02.400 --> 1:48:05.679 an informant because he's making up for something illegal he did? 1:48:05.920 --> 1:48:08.360 Well, then we can't wait. Hold on. Also, sorry, I 1:48:08.600 --> 1:48:09.759 haven't brought a peed in bribery. 1:48:09.840 --> 1:48:14.000 So did you hear about the Club Shalomey thing in Paris? 1:48:15.120 --> 1:48:19.040 Do you know Club Shallomey? No, So she's like a 1:48:19.080 --> 1:48:23.599 middle aged black woman in America and she like loved 1:48:23.640 --> 1:48:24.720 Timothy Shallomey and. 1:48:26.520 --> 1:48:27.280 Club Shalla May. 1:48:28.000 --> 1:48:31.559 Then she stopped and turned all her attention on connor story. 1:48:32.080 --> 1:48:34.400 But like, I'm not that into the internet in that way, 1:48:34.479 --> 1:48:36.400 like I am, I don't know, I'm lying. So anyways, 1:48:36.800 --> 1:48:40.880 Connor was in Paris for the Ysel Menswear fashion show. 1:48:40.880 --> 1:48:42.720 You probably saw photos of him with Madonna and like. 1:48:42.760 --> 1:48:45.760 Charlie Sex and fans. 1:48:45.880 --> 1:48:48.360 Go outside the hotels, which I think is like whatever. 1:48:48.520 --> 1:48:53.479 So I guess someone someone recognized that Club Shallow May 1:48:53.640 --> 1:48:56.840 was outside of the hotel and the moment Connor came up, 1:48:56.960 --> 1:48:59.479 beat the shit out of Club Shallow May two in 1:48:59.640 --> 1:49:03.400 quotes protect Connor. And so now there's all this discourse 1:49:03.960 --> 1:49:06.519 because it's like the Club Shallow May is like I 1:49:06.560 --> 1:49:08.920 was just in Paris randomly, like I'm just a fan. 1:49:09.040 --> 1:49:11.160 I just wanted to be there. And then the woman 1:49:11.200 --> 1:49:13.880 who attacked her was like, you're a stalker. You're a freak, 1:49:13.920 --> 1:49:15.600 and I had to protect him. I could see you 1:49:15.720 --> 1:49:18.320 lunging at him, and then everyone else is like, you're 1:49:18.360 --> 1:49:20.920 just as crazy as her. You're both stalking him at 1:49:20.920 --> 1:49:24.080 his fucking hotel, like you know what I mean. And 1:49:24.120 --> 1:49:27.439 then I was like, listen, I'm obviously obsessed as fuck, 1:49:27.920 --> 1:49:30.080 like I you know, I'm so into it, and I 1:49:30.080 --> 1:49:31.479 talk about it all the time and think about them 1:49:31.479 --> 1:49:34.160 all the time. I would never camp out outside of 1:49:34.240 --> 1:49:36.960 any hotel, even if I saw them at dinner. 1:49:37.000 --> 1:49:39.439 I think I'd be cat like. I just can't imagine. 1:49:39.439 --> 1:49:40.479 And then I was like, I guess I was at 1:49:40.520 --> 1:49:42.320 the iced Tea ceremony and waited for Michael C. 1:49:42.439 --> 1:49:45.120 Hall outside stage door. But even those two are professional. 1:49:45.520 --> 1:49:49.160 But Club Shallow May was wearing like a full hat, 1:49:49.200 --> 1:49:52.360 full sun mask and like, and the girls still recognized her. 1:49:53.200 --> 1:49:55.320 I'm gonna I'm gonna read you this tweet, So here's 1:49:55.360 --> 1:49:59.479 the photo. Okay, imagine being so online you recognize Club 1:49:59.520 --> 1:50:02.320 Shallow Ma wearing a mask, hat and sunglasses while you're 1:50:02.360 --> 1:50:06.160 both waiting outside Connor Stories Hotel and probably deciding to 1:50:06.200 --> 1:50:06.920 beat her up. 1:50:09.240 --> 1:50:12.280 I mean, that's Jared did. 1:50:12.479 --> 1:50:15.840 Jared did clop Zoey Deschanel at Discanco in a sunglasses, 1:50:15.880 --> 1:50:19.280 hat and mask during the pandemic. But I don't know 1:50:19.320 --> 1:50:21.479 he somehow did that, but I maybe he recognized the 1:50:21.479 --> 1:50:22.160 property brother. 1:50:22.560 --> 1:50:23.719 I heard about Club Shallome. 1:50:23.880 --> 1:50:27.439 I knew about Club Schalome actually from who Weekly. They 1:50:27.520 --> 1:50:29.759 keep me up to date on all that internet type bullshit. 1:50:29.800 --> 1:50:31.599 But I didn't hear about the beat down in Paris, 1:50:32.800 --> 1:50:33.880 so thank you for that. 1:50:34.160 --> 1:50:35.560 I talk about how I have a crush on the 1:50:35.600 --> 1:50:38.040 kool Aid Man and would fuck him, and someone sent 1:50:38.080 --> 1:50:41.320 me that there is a book called Cold Sweat and 1:50:41.360 --> 1:50:46.599 it's it's a fancfic. It's it's a it's a book 1:50:46.640 --> 1:50:49.960 about falling in love with the kool Aid cool aid Man. 1:50:50.040 --> 1:50:54.559 Yeah, you can truly find I think any kink out there. 1:50:55.120 --> 1:50:56.160 I really think you can. 1:50:56.600 --> 1:50:58.920 So, yeah, your kink is like a guy that smashes 1:50:59.000 --> 1:51:00.760 through a wall and is like, oh. 1:51:00.520 --> 1:51:03.240 Yeah, I think, don't you feel like it'd be fun 1:51:03.280 --> 1:51:04.280 to jump in that picture? 1:51:04.560 --> 1:51:06.280 Yeah, swim around a little bit. 1:51:06.800 --> 1:51:09.679 And then someone gifted me FIFA collector cards. I mean, 1:51:09.800 --> 1:51:12.400 it's just like a it's fun, all right, But honestly 1:51:12.680 --> 1:51:14.479 it was a it was a sad ending for sure. 1:51:14.640 --> 1:51:15.800 The episode. I don't know. 1:51:15.840 --> 1:51:18.360 The post mortem of this episode is like, I don't know, 1:51:18.600 --> 1:51:22.120 don't commit crimes and become an informant and then don't 1:51:22.200 --> 1:51:25.240 cheat on your husband, and like if you're, if you're, 1:51:25.479 --> 1:51:28.439 if your daughter has perfect pitch, you gotta find another place. 1:51:28.560 --> 1:51:30.639 You can't do it. She's gonna rat you out right. 1:51:31.320 --> 1:51:33.840 Yeah, you know your kid has good hearing and you're 1:51:33.920 --> 1:51:38.960 still fucking like superhering. Yeah, that's wild. Yeah, I can't 1:51:39.000 --> 1:51:41.040 say she yeah, you're like you're having your affairs. 1:51:41.040 --> 1:51:41.439 I don't know. 1:51:41.479 --> 1:51:43.760 But then the the kid killed, I mean that was 1:51:43.840 --> 1:51:46.120 it was a real it's a real twisty episode, this one. 1:51:46.320 --> 1:51:48.160 But anyway, we don't have to get we don't have 1:51:48.200 --> 1:51:50.240 to get too philosophical about what happened. We all watch 1:51:50.280 --> 1:51:54.679 the episode, should we Do you have any other last 1:51:54.680 --> 1:51:56.640 minute tidbits before I get into what would Sister Peg Do? 1:51:57.479 --> 1:51:59.880 No, everything else is as usual soul cycle. 1:52:00.240 --> 1:52:05.920 Okay, okay, let's get into our what would Sister Peg do? 1:52:06.280 --> 1:52:06.479 You know? 1:52:06.560 --> 1:52:09.280 This is our weekly segment where we normally direct you 1:52:09.360 --> 1:52:14.960 towards something that attaches to this episode, and I couldn't 1:52:14.960 --> 1:52:18.280 really think of anything because it's a very specific episode 1:52:18.320 --> 1:52:22.400 with like people, there's like, there's not an organization about 1:52:22.760 --> 1:52:26.920 what to do when a kid kills his the woman 1:52:27.000 --> 1:52:29.000 that he thinks his dad's having an affair with. But 1:52:29.160 --> 1:52:31.120 what I really wanted to do is use this week 1:52:31.240 --> 1:52:35.640 to point you to a GoFundMe for Nelson Contreras Galvez, 1:52:35.760 --> 1:52:40.080 who is the husband of Kurt Browneller's niece and Kurt 1:52:40.080 --> 1:52:42.360 Brunneler is the host of the Bananas podcast here on 1:52:42.400 --> 1:52:45.679 the Exactly Right Network. He's a friend his niece. Ariel 1:52:45.760 --> 1:52:47.800 is married to Nelson, and this past weekend he was 1:52:47.840 --> 1:52:51.200 taken by Ice. Nelson is a Venezuelan asylum seeker with 1:52:51.439 --> 1:52:55.320 no criminal record, married to Ariel. Recently, he was detained 1:52:55.320 --> 1:52:59.120 by Ice during his routine immigration appointment and after attending 1:52:59.160 --> 1:53:01.800 a regularly dualle appointment in Philadelphia, he was told to 1:53:01.800 --> 1:53:04.719 return the next day because the quote unquote the kiosk 1:53:04.800 --> 1:53:07.559 was broken, although the office is not typically open on Saturdays. 1:53:07.600 --> 1:53:09.920 He followed the instructions and when he returned, he was 1:53:09.920 --> 1:53:13.800 taken into ICE custody. I just think that this is 1:53:14.120 --> 1:53:16.719 such an example of the of the overreach by Ice, 1:53:16.840 --> 1:53:19.880 and I think we all got a little bit off 1:53:19.920 --> 1:53:21.960 of the Ice topic because it felt like a lot 1:53:22.000 --> 1:53:24.679 of the random kidnappings were dying down. But this one, 1:53:24.720 --> 1:53:26.479 like really hits close to home because this is a 1:53:26.479 --> 1:53:29.640 friend of ours. So if you can donate to the GoFundMe, 1:53:30.000 --> 1:53:32.280 the link will be posted in our show notes and 1:53:32.400 --> 1:53:35.360 in our stories the day this episode comes out, and 1:53:35.439 --> 1:53:38.240 the what would sister peg dos are always saved in 1:53:38.320 --> 1:53:41.840 our WWSPD highlights on our Instagram page. That's messed Up 1:53:41.880 --> 1:53:45.760 pod and go give that a follow for memes and 1:53:45.800 --> 1:53:50.320 maybe I'll get more into memes. You know, it's terrible. Yes, yes, 1:53:50.479 --> 1:53:55.080 this is like absolutely bullshit. So they're they're getting him help. 1:53:55.120 --> 1:53:57.040 I mean the GoFundMe has raised some money already, but 1:53:57.120 --> 1:54:00.559 it's going to be a big legal battle. So yeah, 1:54:00.600 --> 1:54:03.360 And like the reason he's an asylum seeker is because 1:54:03.360 --> 1:54:06.080 in Venezuela he was part of their military I believe 1:54:06.120 --> 1:54:08.360 or their national guard or something where they were demanding 1:54:08.360 --> 1:54:11.720 that he hurt civilians and protesters and he didn't want 1:54:11.720 --> 1:54:14.960 to do that, so he fled Venezuela. So this is 1:54:14.960 --> 1:54:18.679 a person who is and literally volunteers at a local 1:54:19.439 --> 1:54:23.000 like soup kitchen and like is a good person. So 1:54:23.439 --> 1:54:26.720 everybody can just you know, change the narrative they have, 1:54:26.880 --> 1:54:29.160 not that anybody who listens to this podcast has that narrative, 1:54:29.200 --> 1:54:31.640 but that like we're rounding up all these criminals. These 1:54:31.640 --> 1:54:35.000 are like innocent people that contribute to society. 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