1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:01,280 Speaker 1: And you're here. 2 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 2: Thanks for choosing the iHeartRadio and Coast to Ghost Day 3 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 2: and Paranormal Podcast Network. Your quest for podcasts of the paranormal, supernatural, 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,319 Speaker 2: and the unexplained ends here. We invite you to enjoy 5 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 2: all our shows we have on this network, and right now, 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: let's start with Chase of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain. 7 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 3: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 8 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 3: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 9 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 3: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 3: to Coast AM employees of Premiere Networks, or their sponsors 11 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 3: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 12 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 3: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. 13 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 4: Hi. 14 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 3: I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been 15 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 3: on a journey to prove the existence of life after death. 16 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 3: On each episode, we'll discuss the reasons we now know 17 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 3: that our loved ones have survived physical debt, and so 18 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 3: will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. I was 19 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 3: recently on social media and one of my classmates from 20 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 3: high school mentioned something about our fortieth high school reunion 21 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 3: and it took me a second forty years since I 22 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 3: graduated high school. That must make me fifty eight, and 23 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 3: it does. But inside I'm still me. Very hard to believe. 24 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 3: I'm fifty eight years old, and whatever age you are, 25 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 3: you probably feel the same way. You're still you. I'm 26 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 3: still me. We look in the mirror, though we may 27 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 3: look a little different. In fact, living in our bodies, 28 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 3: there may be some aches and pains and things have changed. 29 00:01:55,840 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 3: But we are still us, aren't we. I found this 30 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 3: quote author unknown, but I'd like to read it to you. 31 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 3: I asked an elderly woman once what it was like 32 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 3: to be old and to know that the majority of 33 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 3: her life was behind her now. She told me that 34 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 3: she has been the same age her entire life. She said, 35 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 3: the voice inside of her head had never aged. She 36 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 3: has always been the same girl, her mother's daughter. She 37 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 3: had always wondered when she would grow up and be 38 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:35,559 Speaker 3: an old woman. 39 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 5: She said. 40 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 3: She watched her body age and her faculties dull, but 41 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 3: the person she is inside never got tired. She never aged, 42 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 3: She never changed. Remember, our spirits are eternal, our souls 43 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 3: are forever. So the next time you encounter an elderly person, 44 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 3: look at them and know that they are still a 45 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 3: child inside, just as you are still a child. And 46 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 3: children will always need love, attention, and purpose. Don't you 47 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 3: just love that? 48 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 5: So? 49 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 3: I think this episode will be titled I'm Still Me, 50 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 3: because when we migrate to the other side, we simply 51 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 3: open our eyes and we're still us. We just happen 52 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 3: to be being greeted by our loved ones pets that 53 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 3: have passed, but we are still very much alive. Think 54 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 3: about when you woke up this morning, You're still you. 55 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 4: Right. 56 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 3: Of course, You've got years of a past that are 57 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 3: behind you, but they don't live in the present moment. 58 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 3: You live in the present moment two right now listening 59 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 3: to shades of the afterlife. On our episode today, I 60 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 3: want to tell you different stories that come from different 61 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 3: people who have died. I love telling these kind of 62 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 3: stories because throughout the beginning of time there have been 63 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 3: different kinds of mediums who have brought through loved ones. 64 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 3: There's been physical mediums, trance mediums. What we see in 65 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 3: the world right now is a lot of evidential mediums 66 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 3: who will say, I've got your mom here. She used 67 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 3: to make you raspberry pancakes every breakfast and you will 68 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 3: say yes, right, So that's evidential mediums, trance mediums. Well, 69 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 3: you've heard mister Eric, an old English voice speaking through 70 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 3: a young man named Scott Milligan. You've heard him many 71 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:47,239 Speaker 3: times on Shades of the Afterlife. But in time, in past, 72 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 3: there were people that were trance mediums, but they would 73 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 3: actually channel your loved ones. So what this would look 74 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 3: like is the medium would be in front of you, 75 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 3: eyes would be closed. It may sound like the medium's voice, 76 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 3: but the words coming through would be from your loved one. 77 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 3: This kind of mediumship is very, very very rare. In fact, 78 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 3: when you think of the movie Ghost and you think 79 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 3: of Whoopi Goldberg, she was channeling Patrick Swayze to Demi Moore, 80 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 3: And that's kind of what I'm talking about. Now. I 81 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 3: have the opportunity to study trance mediumship at Arthur Finley College, 82 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 3: and the instructor did a demonstration of this, well we'll 83 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 3: call it trance channeling. She did it two times. One 84 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 3: the person in front of her was a man, and 85 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 3: the other the person in front of her was a woman, 86 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 3: and each time it was one of their parents that 87 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 3: spoke through her directly to the recipient with details to 88 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 3: prove that it was really them words, letting the person 89 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 3: know that there's still very much with them and of 90 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 3: course there's always love shared. And seeing this is so wonderful. 91 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 3: I can honestly say I cried really hard after it 92 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 3: because imagine what it would be like for your loved 93 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 3: one to talk to you again. Amazing. So my hope 94 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 3: for the future if you're someone who is an evidential 95 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 3: medium right now is you learn a little trance mediumship. 96 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 3: We have Scott Milligan's class online almost every Monday. It 97 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 3: changes a little month to month, and I definitely trust 98 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 3: the tutors at the Arthur Finley College in the UK, 99 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 3: but it's a beautiful way to let the spirit world 100 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 3: work with us. No one takes us over like you 101 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 3: see in the movies. Some of the stories I will 102 00:06:54,760 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 3: share with you today came through such trance mediums letting 103 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:05,239 Speaker 3: their loved one know, Hey, I'm still me and I'm 104 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 3: still alive. I found a handful of stories that just 105 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 3: warmed my heart about still being us in the afterlife, 106 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 3: but also what life is like in the afterlife. The 107 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 3: third type of medium is a physical medium, which is 108 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 3: very rare and currently oh the physical mediums on planet Earth. 109 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 3: A lot of them are doing some weird things, producing 110 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 3: gemstones from out of the darkness. While I don't go 111 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 3: for that. I have witnessed good physical mediumship with a 112 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 3: medium named David Thompson and also Scott Milligan, where loved 113 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 3: one's voices seem to come from out of the air 114 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 3: and talk to their loved one. There was a gentleman 115 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 3: who died many years ago by the name of Leslie Flint, 116 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 3: and I'll be including some of the stories that happened 117 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 3: through his mediumship. Also, Leslie was a physical medium and 118 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 3: he would host small groups of people or one on 119 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 3: one with people back in the day and they'd want 120 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 3: to talk to their loved one. Leslie would have his 121 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 3: mouth taped shut. He was even tested. They'd put color 122 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 3: dye in his mouth, and yet these voices would still 123 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 3: come from what seemed out of nowhere. So far, he's 124 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 3: the only medium I know that ever existed that was 125 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 3: able to do this. Some of the stories will come 126 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 3: from the recordings of what people witnessed with their loved ones. 127 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 3: Because the voice quality isn't great and these tapes date 128 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 3: way back. I'll tell you the stories in my own voice. 129 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 3: I highly recommend that you check out the website leslieflint 130 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 3: dot com and his book Voices in the Dark. Before 131 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 3: I share the stories, I want to express what I've 132 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 3: learned in the last twenty six years about the actual 133 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 3: dying process. No matter how we get over there, we 134 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 3: are greeted by loved ones and we will feel like 135 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 3: I'm still me. So that's all good. Before that happens, though, ooh, 136 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 3: how do we get there? I think the best way 137 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,839 Speaker 3: to go is when we're old and gray after a 138 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 3: long life and we have a natural death. But unfortunately, 139 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 3: there are accidents. Some people pass by illness, some people 140 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 3: take their own lives unfortunately, and others take people's lives 141 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 3: through killings. It's never easy to have someone pass for 142 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 3: those left behind, But for us, we want to know 143 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 3: is it scary? Does it hurt? What does it feel like? 144 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 3: I want to rest your mind that death itself is painless. 145 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 3: Many say it's like getting very sleepy and then just 146 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,719 Speaker 3: falling asleep. But those of us who have seen our 147 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 3: loved ones suffer. Like my dad before his passing, he 148 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 3: had cancer and he was in an incredible amount of pain. 149 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 3: It is said by our friends in spirit and through 150 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 3: longtime mediums that our soul can leave the body before 151 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 3: the body passes, and this has been documented in cases 152 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 3: of near death experiences, many of which I've shared on 153 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 3: Shades of the Afterlife, where people's consciousness is out of 154 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 3: their body and they're able to witness what's happening to 155 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 3: their body from the outside or above. In many cases, 156 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 3: those who are suffering, their consciousness leaves, and when we 157 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 3: do get to the other side, we may, of course 158 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 3: remember how we passed, but that pain, that memory of 159 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 3: any discomfort before we left, that is gone. There's no punishment, 160 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 3: we've spoken before, there's no judgment. It's for us to 161 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 3: do our own life review. Death isn't the scary part. 162 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 3: Life is the scary part. And of course not a 163 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 3: single one of us wishes to suffer or have our 164 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 3: loved one suffer. So I am a strong proponent if 165 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 3: the end is getting near by sickness, that we all 166 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 3: turn to hospice, which has the best pain medication known 167 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 3: to mankind. So again, when we say we're afraid of death, 168 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 3: that may be afraid of the pain. But I strongly 169 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 3: believe that our consciousness does leave our body before the 170 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 3: body dies. Even in cases of dementia and Alzheimer's. It's 171 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 3: as if those folks have one foot in our world 172 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 3: and one foot they're already seeing into the afterlife. And 173 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 3: let's not forget that we have a greeting committee that 174 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 3: when we're in that in between place, still alive, on 175 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 3: the threshold of passing, loved ones guides. Some people see angels, 176 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 3: we can see into the afterlife. It's all happening to 177 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 3: comfortably bring us across the veil. We'll take our first 178 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 3: break in a moment, but when we come back, you'll 179 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 3: hear about South African lawyer Jasper Swain and his conversations 180 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 3: with his deceased son Mike, with and without the aid 181 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 3: of a medium. Conversations Mike details his new world and 182 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 3: his new life. For instance, Mike says, the actual act 183 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 3: of dying is as simple as dozing off after lunch. 184 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 3: A drowsy feeling fills the whole body with relaxing comfort. 185 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 3: We'll hear his story when we get back. Are you 186 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 3: ready to take the ride into the I'm still me 187 00:12:55,679 --> 00:13:00,319 Speaker 3: stories about the other side from people on the other side. 188 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 3: We'll be right back. You're listening to Shades of the 189 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 3: Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal 190 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 3: Podcast Network. 191 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 6: Stay right there, there's more Sandra common right out. 192 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 4: Hey. 193 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 6: The Coast to Coast a YouTube channel jam. Go to 194 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 6: Coast to Coast AM dot com for more information. 195 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: Ah it's doctr sky. Keep it right here on the 196 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio and Coast to Coast AM Pyronormal Podcast Network. 197 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 3: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain. 198 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 3: I'd like to share with you some excerpts from the 199 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 3: book From My World to Yours, which was first published 200 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 3: in nineteen seventy four by South African lawyer Jasper Swain 201 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 3: after his eldest son, Mike, tragically died in a car 202 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 3: accident in South Africa. Mike, who was just eighteen years 203 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 3: old at the time, was accompanied by Heather, an eleven 204 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 3: year old daughter of one of his friends. Shortly after 205 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 3: the funeral, Jasper went to see missus Nina Marrington, who 206 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 3: had offered him her services to act as a medium 207 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 3: in order to establish contact with Mike in the spirit world. 208 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 3: After Nina passed into trance, Jasper was startled to hear 209 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 3: her speaking with Mike's voice, addressing him as Shud a 210 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 3: name that only his dead son had ever used. When 211 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 3: asked how the accident happened, Mike said that he would 212 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 3: place Medium Nina in the driver's seat so that she 213 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 3: could describe exactly how things had transpired the entrance. Medium 214 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 3: began by saying he has placed me in a small 215 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 3: green mini car. It is a terribly hot day and 216 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 3: I'm driving along a very crowded road. There is a 217 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 3: little girl beside me. Her name is Heather. She is 218 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 3: chatting to me about her mom and dad, who are 219 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 3: in the car ahead of us. I can see their 220 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 3: car approximately fifty yards away. It is gray in color. 221 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 3: It is noon, and there is a mass of holiday 222 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 3: traffic passing us in both directions. Now, I see a 223 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 3: black car coming towards us. As it approaches us, I 224 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 3: see this other car coming behind it. I can see 225 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 3: this other car clearly because it is in the middle 226 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 3: of the road trying to pass the black car. Nina 227 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 3: paused for a moment and said, the sun is glaring 228 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 3: on the windscreen of the black car and reflecting back 229 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 3: into my eyes. I can see nothing but a bright 230 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 3: silver radiance. It is blinding to me. All of a sudden, 231 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 3: the radiance changes from silver to gold. I am being 232 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 3: lifted up in the air out through the top of 233 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 3: the car. I grab little Heather's hand. She too is 234 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 3: being lifted up out of the car. We have been 235 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 3: lifted thirty feet above the Mini, and in one horrifying second, 236 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:48,119 Speaker 3: I see the little Mini and this large car collide 237 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 3: head on. The little Mini bounces right off the highway, 238 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 3: right over onto the gravel verge. It is finally brought 239 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 3: to a halt and a cloud of dust when it 240 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 3: hits a giant hill the large cars turning in mid air, 241 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 3: its nose flips over until it is back to front. 242 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 3: Then it smashes down on the road on its side. 243 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 3: A storm of metallic dust is now glinting all over 244 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 3: the road. The medium Nina stopped, obviously too agitated to continue. 245 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 3: What impressed her listeners was the fact that Mike had 246 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 3: never seen the other vehicle until after the silver light 247 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 3: had changed to gold. He and Heather had felt no 248 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 3: sense of impact. They had suffered no pain, just a 249 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 3: gentle ascent into the air. Nina recovered herself enough to continue. 250 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 3: Heather and I are still holding hands. We now descend 251 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 3: beside the Mini. We see two crumpled bodies lying in it. 252 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 3: We feel vaguely sorry that this thing should have happened 253 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 3: to them, and we both fully understand that we are now, 254 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 3: so far as mortals are concerned, dead. We are both 255 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 3: aware that a lot of people have begun to gather 256 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 3: around us. They are dressed in glorious colors. We even 257 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 3: recognize some of the people. They are the faces of 258 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 3: friends and family who passed beyond the earth before us. 259 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 3: Heather and I are still standing hand in hand, Now 260 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 3: guided by the one who first lifted us into the air, 261 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 3: the two of us sweep towards the skies. We drift 262 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 3: about the two round hills known as the Breasts of 263 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 3: Sheba in heartfelt joy. The three jasper, his wife, Clarice, 264 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 3: and his second son, Kevin listen, transported by the fact 265 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 3: that the passing had involved neither fear, shock nor suffering. 266 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 3: Mike now addressed himself to his brother. Sometime after the crash, 267 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 3: Kevin had noticed that dust was gathering on his bicycle, 268 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 3: and he began to clean it. In the process, he 269 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 3: noticed that the drive chain was dry. In too much 270 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 3: of a hurry to find the grease gun, he rashly 271 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,959 Speaker 3: decided to take a chance with the oil can. He 272 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 3: messed it up, however, and oil flowed out of the 273 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 3: bottom of the casing and made a pool on the 274 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 3: kitchen floor. Kevin had mopped up the oil with one 275 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 3: of Mike's dusters, which he promptly washed and iron before 276 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 3: returning it to the drawer. Through the entranced medium Nina, 277 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 3: Mike informed him that he had watched the whole thing 278 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 3: him making a mess, and if he had been there, 279 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 3: he wouldn't have helped him clean it. This left Kevin 280 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 3: devoid of speech, because this episode had occurred long after 281 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 3: the funeral and no one knew about it except himself. 282 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 3: Mike next turned to his mother. I'm so glad you've 283 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 3: begun to accept what has happened, he told her. Never 284 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 3: allow yourself to mourn. Just send us your love, send 285 00:19:56,160 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 3: us your happiness. These we can use in service of others. 286 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 3: The other morning, Mom, just after sunrise, you left the 287 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 3: bedroom and went down to the garden in your dressing gown, 288 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 3: and you picked a single, perfect white rose. I was 289 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 3: with you then, and I surrounded you with all of 290 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 3: my love. Mom. If you ever do get depressed again, 291 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 3: go out into the garden and pick another flower. I 292 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 3: shall be there with you again and again. Jasper and 293 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 3: Kevin knew nothing of this, having been asleep when Clarice 294 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 3: had gone down into the garden. But in the weeks 295 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 3: that followed, whenever Clarice went alone to the garden, Jasper 296 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 3: and Kevin would notice that, no matter how somber she 297 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 3: was leaving the house, she would come back later with 298 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 3: her eyes sparkling and her face transformed. Mike, where are 299 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 3: you now? His father? Jasper asked him. The reply came instantly. 300 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 3: I am surrounded by the love and peace of our father. 301 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 3: But where are you? What world are you in? Can 302 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 3: you tell me? I'm in a world that looks pretty 303 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,239 Speaker 3: much the same as your world, Dad, Only there are 304 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 3: different laws up here. When I say laws, I don't 305 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 3: mean the laws that govern behavior of the people. I 306 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 3: mean the laws that govern thought. Mike, tell me more 307 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 3: about that world. How do you get there? Where does 308 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 3: it exist? Dad? Everyone comes here through the gates of death. 309 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 3: You have to rearrange your values to appreciate its virtues. Though, 310 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 3: while you are still on earth, your thought, your intentions, 311 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 3: everything you do gives your soul a certain rate of vibration. 312 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 3: For argument's sake, let's suppose your soul is vibrating in 313 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 3: a fifty megacycle band. When you die and manifest here, 314 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 3: you would go straight to the part of our world, 315 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,959 Speaker 3: which vibrates at fifty megacycles. By the same token, if 316 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 3: you're a slow thinking sort of a blow o, you 317 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 3: can only vibrate to fifteen megacycles, then you'll become part 318 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 3: of this world in the fifteen megacycle range. It all 319 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 3: depends on your rate of vibration. Therefore, you yourself select 320 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 3: the kind of scenery that will await you when you 321 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 3: arrive here. The worlds above us are even richer in 322 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 3: light and happiness. If I go up there, and I 323 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 3: can right now, I find it too bright. The light 324 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 3: hurts my eyes, and the vibrations are so refined that 325 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 3: I can't respond to them. So I just reverse gear 326 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 3: and return to this world, which suits me just fine. 327 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 3: Is Dad? Jasper begins to ask these worlds that you 328 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 3: refer to, Mike, not so much world's Dad, as planes 329 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 3: of existence. Though we have sun and the skies and 330 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 3: acres of beautiful flowers here, we don't have rain as 331 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 3: you know it, Nor is there any blight to destroy 332 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 3: the beauty of the trees. They look exactly the same 333 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 3: as they do on Earth, with one big difference. However, 334 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 3: here they are all perfect. There are no high winds 335 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 3: to warp and twist them. There are only gentle breezes. 336 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 3: It is always coolish warm, if you know what I mean. 337 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 3: My greatest joy here is my sense of perfect freedom. 338 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 3: We can go wherever we like, whenever we feel like it. 339 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 3: This world is infinite, and though everyone you meet on 340 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 3: this plane is at the same stage of development as yourself, 341 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 3: he is still a rugged individualist in his own right, 342 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:43,239 Speaker 3: just as he was on Earth. Everyone has his or 343 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 3: her own way of looking at things and his or 344 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 3: her own way of speaking their mind. When you discuss 345 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 3: anything here, you always learn something new because the person 346 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 3: you are talking to has such an original attitude. And 347 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 3: as I said, thought is all powerful here. For example, 348 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 3: if I want to own a brand new Jaguar, all 349 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 3: I have to do is visualize the car in my mind, 350 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 3: and it is created right there before my eyes out 351 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 3: of the thought energy of this world. If we are 352 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 3: far away from one another and we want to make contact, 353 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 3: telepathy is the accepted thing here. I merely have to 354 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 3: think of the fellow I want to speak to and bingo, 355 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 3: he's right there. We contact each other as easily as 356 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 3: you use the telephone, except that we don't need to 357 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 3: pick up a phone. If someone wants to talk to you, 358 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 3: you first hear him in your mind. If you want 359 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 3: to go to him, you merely exert your will, and 360 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 3: in two ticks you're right there. Takes a bit of 361 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 3: practice and getting used to, but it beats TV by 362 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 3: a mile. You see how perfect everything is. This world 363 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 3: is the right one for me at this stage of 364 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 3: my development. But as my vibrations become more refined, I 365 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 3: shall be able to visit the higher planes with ease. 366 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 3: And when I want to study the law and learn 367 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 3: how it operates, we go to the Hall of logic. 368 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 3: There are many halls of knowledge and wisdom. Here we 369 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 3: can travel from one end of this realm to another 370 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 3: as fast as lightning. Our bodies never get tired. Illness 371 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 3: and sickness don't exist here. This is a world of perfection. 372 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 3: All this information took Jasper some considerable time to digest, 373 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 3: and his next question to Mike was, Mike, if you 374 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 3: are safe in the infinite domain of God? Where is hell? 375 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 3: This was met by a burst of hearty laughter. G 376 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 3: Dad answered Mike, Hell only exists where you are now. 377 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 3: Those were excerpts from the book From My World to Yours. 378 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 3: It's time for our next break, and when we come back, 379 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 3: we'll hear more stories from people in the afterlife. 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So 389 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 7: head on over to the Coast to COASTAM dot com website. 390 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 7: We have a handy video guide to help you get 391 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 7: the most out. 392 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 6: Of your mobile app usage. 393 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 7: All the infos waiting for you now at Coast to 394 00:26:50,720 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 7: COASTAM dot com. That's Coast to COASTAM dot com. 395 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 1: Hi, this is ufologist Kevin Randall, and you're listening to 396 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast am Paranormal Podcast Network. 397 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 3: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain. 398 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 3: I'd like to now introduce you to the work of 399 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 3: medium Leslie Flint. Mister Flint became a famous British medium 400 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 3: not because he stood on a platform to give messages 401 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 3: from the deceased, but because countless thousands of spirit people 402 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 3: spoke for themselves out of the darkness. He was called 403 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 3: a direct voice medium. These voices were independent of mister Flint. 404 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 3: He even spoke with them himself, describing the voices that 405 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 3: were heard above my head and slightly to one side 406 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 3: of me. By the time his book Voices in the 407 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 3: Dark was first published in nineteen seventy one, Flint had 408 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,239 Speaker 3: already been a medium for over forty years, yet he 409 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 3: continued with his work for another twenty years. His experience 410 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 3: and knowledge of what happens to us after death is 411 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 3: second to none. His mediumship was tested by independent researchers 412 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 3: time and time again, and still the voices came to 413 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 3: speak their messages to their loved ones that we are alive, 414 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 3: we are eternal spirits living a physical life, and that 415 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 3: we do live on after death. Although Leslie Flint passed 416 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 3: in nineteen ninety four at the age of eighty three. 417 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 3: Journalist Neville Randall spent two years sifting through the hundreds 418 00:28:55,440 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 3: of recordings made by George Woods and Betty Green with 419 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 3: people who spoke through medium Leslie Flint. Randall's book Life 420 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 3: After Death is a detailed account of life beyond the 421 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 3: grave in the worlds of the people who live there. 422 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 3: Many say it is the most reassuring and down to 423 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 3: earth book about the other side ever written. Here's a 424 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 3: few words from chapter four, titled I must be dead? 425 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 3: What is it like to die? The prospect from this 426 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 3: side of the grave is not inviting. If we are lucky, 427 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 3: it's quick. For most of us, it's something we prefer 428 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 3: not to think about. Could we have gotten it wrong? 429 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 3: The message from the other side is rather different. Nothing 430 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 3: much to worry about, just a natural transition from one 431 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 3: existence to another. None of the voices who came back 432 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 3: through Leslie Flint to describe what happened remember being frightened 433 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 3: or in any pain. Most of them took quite a 434 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 3: while to realize they were not still alive. The moment 435 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 3: of death for all of them was a dream which 436 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 3: changed into a new sense of reality. Their main worry 437 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 3: is why the folks they left behind were scurrying around 438 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 3: in such a panic and could not see that they 439 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 3: were still alive, happy and well. As soon as a 440 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:20,479 Speaker 3: communicating spirit has mastered the problem of turning his thoughts 441 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 3: into words through Flint's ecdoplasmic voice box, he usually starts 442 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 3: talking with all the eagerness of a traveler calling at 443 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 3: the end of a long journey to share his impressions 444 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 3: of his destination. Betty Green takes the first opportunity to 445 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,719 Speaker 3: steer them towards sharing what interests us most with her 446 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 3: opening question, could you give us your reaction on finding 447 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 3: out that you were dead? This was the question she 448 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,959 Speaker 3: put to a voice who had introduced himself on April eleventh, 449 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 3: nineteen fifty nine, as a Sussex farmer named George Hopkins. 450 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 3: Here are his words. Well, I just had a stroke 451 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 3: or a seizure or a heart attack, something of that sort. 452 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, I was harvesting. I felt 453 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 3: a bit peculiar, thought it was the sun, and went 454 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 3: down in the hedge. I felt a bit drowsy and 455 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 3: must have dozed off. But dear, oh, dear, I had 456 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 3: such shock I woke up as I thought, the sun 457 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 3: has gone down, and there was me, or what appeared 458 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 3: to me me. I was puzzled. I tried to shake 459 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 3: myself to wake myself up. I thought, well, this is funny. 460 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 3: I must be dreaming. I couldn't make heads or tails 461 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 3: of it. It never struck me that I was dead. 462 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 3: This chapter on George continues with him trying to get 463 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 3: people to realize that he was still alive before he 464 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 3: moves on to the other side. Here's a story about 465 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 3: another George. Old George Wilmot recalled his astonishment when he 466 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 3: passed at being green by his old horse, Old Jenny, 467 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 3: he said, used to pull my cart in the early years. 468 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 3: I was real upset when poor old Jenny collapsed and died. 469 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 3: She was as near to me as any woman could be. 470 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 3: In fact, more so, I had great affection for old Jenny. 471 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 3: She knew everything that I ever said to her, and 472 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 3: she was as cute as they come. The first thing 473 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 3: I remember when I woke up over here was being 474 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 3: in well, I suppose you'd call it a field. I 475 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 3: seemed to be sitting or lying under a tree. I 476 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 3: remember waking up. I could see this horse coming towards me, 477 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 3: and there was my old Jenny. She looked younger, of course, 478 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 3: and she was so thrilled and so happy. You could 479 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 3: sense and feel it. I can't say how. This is 480 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 3: something I can't explain, but it was almost as if 481 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 3: she was talking to me. I couldn't hear any voice, 482 00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 3: and you don't expect to hear a horse speak, but somehow, men, 483 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 3: I suppose I could hear her. Now I realize it 484 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 3: was as if she was speaking to me and welcoming me. 485 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 3: She came beside me and was licking my face. Goodness me, 486 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 3: I'll never forget this as long as I live. I 487 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 3: was so thrilled and excited. And then I heard a 488 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 3: voice behind me. I turned around and there was a 489 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 3: fine looking chap I should think he was about six 490 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 3: foot two, fair haired, young and he says, I've come 491 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 3: to look after you, come to look after me. I said, 492 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 3: what are you talking about? I was so taken aback, 493 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 3: what with Jenny and the rest of it. Yes, I'm 494 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 3: going to look after you, he says, I've been put 495 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 3: in charge of you. What do you mean in charge 496 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 3: of me? I'm capable of looking after myself. You don't 497 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 3: understand he said, you know you are dead. In the 498 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 3: rest of the chapter, George continues with Michael and the 499 00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 3: horse Jenny, and of course Michael explains that all of 500 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 3: our animal companions get to be with us in the 501 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,720 Speaker 3: spirit world and they can talk to us with their thoughts. 502 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 3: In chapter twelve, the voice comes through of a London 503 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 3: flower cellar named Rose Hawkins. She was asked questions about 504 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 3: what life is like on the other side and if 505 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 3: she could describe it. Rose says, you've asked me to 506 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,359 Speaker 3: describe our world in material language. I don't know which 507 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 3: way to start. I suppose if you could think of 508 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 3: all the beautiful things in your world, without all the 509 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 3: things that aren't pleasant, you'd have some vague idea of 510 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:47,320 Speaker 3: what it's like. Beautiful natural surroundings, flowers, birds, trees, lakes, 511 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,879 Speaker 3: The sun is always shining. You might think it gets 512 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 3: a bit monotonous, but it doesn't. She's asked, Is it 513 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 3: easier to grow flowers over there than it is here? Well, 514 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 3: you plant them up, but we don't have seasons. They 515 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 3: don't need water. Everything just grows naturally. Is your world 516 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,839 Speaker 3: very much like this world, She's asked, only more beautiful? Well, 517 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 3: I suppose yes, I would compare it very much like 518 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 3: a beautiful English countryside. That's the nearest I can explain it. 519 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 3: Have you villages and towns? She was asked, Well, we 520 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 3: haven't towns as you understand them. There are places where 521 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,879 Speaker 3: I suppose you'd call them towns in a sense, where 522 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:35,879 Speaker 3: thousands of people congregate together, but there's no buses or trains. Well, 523 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 3: how do you travel? We walk, or if you've got 524 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 3: any distance, you just think of the place you want 525 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 3: to be in, close your eyes, and then in a 526 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 3: split second you're there. Do you live in a house? Rose, Well, 527 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 3: yes I do live in a house, but I don't 528 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 3: have to. But I've never seen anyone who doesn't. Houses 529 00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 3: are very real. We've got architects and designers and so on. 530 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 3: They create and build, but it isn't hard labor like 531 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 3: it is on your side. Do you use money or 532 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 3: anything like that over there? Money? She says, You can't 533 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,359 Speaker 3: buy nothing here with money. The only thing you can 534 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,720 Speaker 3: get here is by character and the way you lived 535 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 3: your life, and the way you think and act. But 536 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 3: we're wondering how do you get the architects to do 537 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 3: the work? Rose said, Well, you don't pay him He 538 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 3: does it because he loves to do it. He loves 539 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 3: to design houses. He loves to do that kind of work, 540 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,800 Speaker 3: the same as the musician who loves to play the violin. 541 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 3: He's just happy to entertain as friends and people, and 542 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 3: they form orchestras and choirs. They do everything for love. 543 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,879 Speaker 3: Everything is done for love. And anyone, for instance, on 544 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,320 Speaker 3: your side, who never had a chance in life, perhaps 545 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,839 Speaker 3: they wanted to be a musician or an artist. They 546 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 3: can study over here, you see, and be whoever they 547 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 3: want to be. Do you eat anything, she was asked. 548 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 3: We have fruit and nuts, she replied, and we have 549 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 3: all the things you can imagine from your world. But 550 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 3: I don't eat meat or any flesh of any kind. 551 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,800 Speaker 3: You know, what do you do with your flowers? Rose? 552 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 3: Do you use them to beautify places? Well, of course 553 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 3: you can if you want to. You can cut the 554 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 3: flowers and you can use them in your home, But 555 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 3: very few people do that. After a time, we usually 556 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 3: only see people doing that who haven't been here long. 557 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 3: All the flowers are natural, they have their own life, 558 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 3: and I don't think it's the right thing to cut 559 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 3: them all down. But if you're sitting inside your house 560 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 3: and you want to see the flowers outside, you don't 561 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 3: necessarily have to go outside to see them. You can 562 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 3: just think about them, and there they are you can 563 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 3: see them. Rose. Do you sleep, Oh, yes, you can 564 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 3: sleep if you feel so inclined. But it's not necessary 565 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 3: because you don't feel tired. How do you measure space 566 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 3: and time? Well, I don't know. There isn't measurement of 567 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 3: time as I understand it. We are not conscious of time. 568 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,919 Speaker 3: Mentally you think, oh, well, it's afternoon, evening or night. 569 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:14,720 Speaker 3: But things don't affect us. Time is, after all, only 570 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 3: man made. Rose. What is the sky like? Oh, there 571 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 3: are clouds in the sky from time to time. It's 572 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 3: a beautiful sky, nothing you could ever dream of. It 573 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 3: isn't necessarily blue. It can be with the green and 574 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 3: red and all kinds of magnificent colors. There are colors 575 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:37,959 Speaker 3: over here that I've never seen on earth. Rose goes 576 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 3: on to describe how people dress, that there are lakes, 577 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:47,360 Speaker 3: there are boats, what people do for their pastime, playing music, 578 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:52,360 Speaker 3: being together, going to the halls of learning, and much more. 579 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 3: It is time for our break. When we come back, 580 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 3: there'll be a bit more from the book Life After 581 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 3: Death by Neville Randall, and you'll hear some words from 582 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,919 Speaker 3: a person in the afterlife through the direct voice mediumship 583 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:13,879 Speaker 3: of Leslie Flint. So just remember I'm still me and 584 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 3: you're still you when we cross over into the afterlife. 585 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 3: Nothing to fear, It's all grand. 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I'm Sandra Champlain. 602 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,320 Speaker 3: I thought it would be appropriate to play some words 603 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 3: spoken in one of these sittings with Leslie Flint so 604 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:01,360 Speaker 3: that you could actually hear the voice of a spirit person. 605 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 3: Imagine a small group of people and they get to 606 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,279 Speaker 3: talk to their deceased loved ones. On this occasion, a 607 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:12,240 Speaker 3: woman by the name of Jenny Wilson spoke with the group. 608 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,399 Speaker 3: This recording is just the tip of the iceberg. Go 609 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:21,399 Speaker 3: to Leslie Flint dot com where there are hundreds of recordings. 610 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 3: Here is Jenny Wilson, who passed during childbirth, talking about 611 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,800 Speaker 3: her experience and the other side. 612 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 5: You uh spirits true, Yes, that you are still on 613 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:41,279 Speaker 5: the earth. 614 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:50,920 Speaker 4: I am a spirit too, not on the That's the 615 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 4: only difference they train you and me. I am being 616 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:05,839 Speaker 4: here a long time now. I did not believe all 617 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 4: this when I was on your side. 618 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 5: Now I know better. You are spiritual is. 619 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 4: They called them and understate you believe in communication. 620 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:29,439 Speaker 5: That's why I'm here. Can you give a Jenny said 621 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:37,399 Speaker 5: all about you. I had my share of travel. Now 622 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,320 Speaker 5: I haven't got a care in the world. 623 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:49,400 Speaker 4: On the earth, Jenny, I was brought up in the 624 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 4: country place called small food, that is right, small foot, 625 00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:58,400 Speaker 4: we called it. 626 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 5: I was one of a. 627 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:08,320 Speaker 4: Family of eleven children, and when we were quite small children, 628 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,360 Speaker 4: we would have to be up early in the morning 629 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:18,360 Speaker 4: and go to work in the fields, sometimes potato picking 630 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:23,840 Speaker 4: according to the season, sometimes stone picking, all sorts of 631 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,360 Speaker 4: things to earn extra two coffers. 632 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 5: I married when I was eighteen. My husband worked on 633 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:35,880 Speaker 5: a farm. 634 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 4: Laborer, plowing, hoing according to the seasons. I died in 635 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:52,759 Speaker 4: child's firths with my first child. I was out in 636 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:58,480 Speaker 4: the fields in those days. We had to work up 637 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 4: to the very last. Now and then you were lucky 638 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 4: if you had a doctor, usually a woman in the 639 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:11,320 Speaker 4: religio or someone would help. Both the baby and me 640 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:17,840 Speaker 4: died in a age. I have been here many years now, Jady. 641 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 4: We went up together your baby. 642 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 5: Well, now did you bring your baby up in spirit? 643 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 4: Well? Yes, and I have here now beside me my daughter. 644 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 4: And if you could see us, we look like each other. 645 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 4: I don't look any older, and she has grown up 646 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,320 Speaker 4: to a fine young woman. 647 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,400 Speaker 5: Now my husband. 648 00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 4: Married again, Yes, and he is here, and we are 649 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,440 Speaker 4: often together on this side of life. 650 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,240 Speaker 5: But we do not live together. 651 00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 4: That we are together, you understand, and I find it 652 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:07,239 Speaker 4: very funny coming to talk to you in this way. 653 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:14,400 Speaker 4: I hope you can hear what I say, as you 654 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:20,280 Speaker 4: must be getting on now for one hundred years. 655 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,920 Speaker 5: I suppose, Jenny, how do you bring a baby up? 656 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,879 Speaker 5: And say? Well, like that different from. 657 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:28,440 Speaker 4: How do you do it? 658 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 5: Well? 659 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,440 Speaker 4: Asa as I can tell you the same as you 660 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 4: would have done more or less on earth, excepting as 661 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:47,279 Speaker 4: sar as I can understand and my own experience, you 662 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:51,920 Speaker 4: don't have some sort of material as you call. 663 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:55,520 Speaker 5: It ways I suppose to do. 664 00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 4: Really, you have to realize that it's the spirit with 665 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 4: you out bringing up and educating and helping. 666 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 5: It's not the body. In the same way. 667 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,360 Speaker 4: It looks much the same, and it takes time. I 668 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:16,040 Speaker 4: suppose that it would have done on Earth. One is conscious, 669 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:21,160 Speaker 4: I suppose in a way of time. In my case 670 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 4: is because I was young and the child was new, 671 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 4: I was given the joy of bringing the child up 672 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 4: as if it were almost the same. 673 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:34,360 Speaker 5: As I pass. 674 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,600 Speaker 4: Gradually watched he grow up and play with other children 675 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,880 Speaker 4: of the same sort of age, and gradually go to 676 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,720 Speaker 4: school and learn various. 677 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:49,080 Speaker 5: Things that were considered necessary. You see and of. 678 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,880 Speaker 4: Course I taught to little things, but I realized that 679 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:54,400 Speaker 4: I had no education. 680 00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 5: I couldn't read or write. 681 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 4: I'd never been to school in my life. 682 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 5: My daughter dances, and she loves music, and she's a 683 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:10,480 Speaker 5: beautiful dancer. Oh, she is really beautiful. You should see her. 684 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 4: She's like what you call it a fairy because over here, 685 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,719 Speaker 4: you see, they have great processions and great and get 686 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,640 Speaker 4: togethers or oh, I don't know what you call them 687 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:25,600 Speaker 4: pageants or something like that, and they have great sort 688 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:29,400 Speaker 4: of places where you go and all sorts of beautiful 689 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:34,839 Speaker 4: things happen, the music and color and dancing, and oh, 690 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:39,319 Speaker 4: it's very beautiful. And she plays in sam Elisia ceremonies 691 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,919 Speaker 4: as you call them, you see, and she is really good. 692 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:43,279 Speaker 5: You know. 693 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 4: I often wondered, you know, because I mean, I knew 694 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,920 Speaker 4: I'd never have a chance to do anything when I 695 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,879 Speaker 4: was on your side, because as well, I've never been 696 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:57,759 Speaker 4: to what they call the theater on your side. A 697 00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:02,120 Speaker 4: climatized as my beautiful lady. I remember being under the 698 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:06,719 Speaker 4: age h and I knew that I was going to die. 699 00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,120 Speaker 4: I don't know what I knew I was. And some 700 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,480 Speaker 4: women were two women actually friends of mine and one 701 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 4: and going running off to try and get out as 702 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,360 Speaker 4: the one was there, and I knew I was going 703 00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,919 Speaker 4: to die. I knew, I didn't know how I knew 704 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,759 Speaker 4: I knew I was It was if this is I 705 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 4: was twisted and twisting away, and I could hear the 706 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:31,000 Speaker 4: striend trying to help the comfort, but court there's nothing 707 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,680 Speaker 4: they could do after circumstances, and I knew I was 708 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,800 Speaker 4: going to pass, as you call it, And anyway, I 709 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 4: remember some of alution of myself and didn't find it 710 00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,480 Speaker 4: myself as funny, and said, I don't know that I 711 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:51,400 Speaker 4: was standing standing in the fields and I left this 712 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,800 Speaker 4: baby in my arms, which I had, I just didn't 713 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:56,719 Speaker 4: have to stand at a two, and so I should 714 00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:00,680 Speaker 4: be standing in the middle of this field, and all 715 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:04,840 Speaker 4: around me I could see my art. It seemed a country, 716 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,840 Speaker 4: and yet it was not the same countries I've been used. 717 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:12,440 Speaker 5: To, but different or different. 718 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,000 Speaker 4: There were trees, but I knew there weren't real trees, 719 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,040 Speaker 4: and the country side, though it wasn't real country side, 720 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:25,160 Speaker 4: and I guess, sort of deep down inside me felt lost, 721 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,640 Speaker 4: as if I was in a dream. And I had 722 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 4: a feeling that I was in a kind of dream, 723 00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,920 Speaker 4: and that all these things would disappear. 724 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,120 Speaker 5: Then I realized that I. 725 00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,600 Speaker 4: Was in a strange sort of country, but nothing I'd 726 00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:44,000 Speaker 4: seen before, and yet it wasn't real. And all of 727 00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,359 Speaker 4: a sudden, I sort of procession, whereas thought I thought 728 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:52,720 Speaker 4: it was of people all dressed in beautiful garments, coming 729 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:53,759 Speaker 4: up a wise. 730 00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:54,479 Speaker 5: Sort of road. 731 00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,640 Speaker 4: I was told that I had arrived and that all 732 00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,840 Speaker 4: was well, there was nothing to worry about anymore, that 733 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,000 Speaker 4: this would be my home. I would be looked after 734 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,839 Speaker 4: from the child, and that this would be made up 735 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,160 Speaker 4: to me from all the unhappiness I've known, and that 736 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,360 Speaker 4: this would be my future place in which i'd gradually 737 00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,520 Speaker 4: find a new self. 738 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,720 Speaker 5: That's the way they put it, a new self. 739 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:29,800 Speaker 4: Just close your eyes and lose yourself, just pre quiet 740 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:35,200 Speaker 4: and of peace, and when you come around later, we'll tell. 741 00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,440 Speaker 5: You more about everything. But this is not the right way. 742 00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,720 Speaker 4: I would just know that you've come home and you're safe, 743 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,960 Speaker 4: and so it's the baby and data we'll tell you 744 00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,920 Speaker 4: more about it. Oh, it was wonderful, and that this 745 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:54,600 Speaker 4: was my reception, they called it, and it all was well, 746 00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:59,440 Speaker 4: that wasn't to be unhappy anymore, and that my child, 747 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:03,240 Speaker 4: and I had been given new life in the realms 748 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,160 Speaker 4: of happiness, as they called it. Right, So they said 749 00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:10,520 Speaker 4: these things obviously that I had understand them, that I've 750 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:14,640 Speaker 4: learned to love more since much more are much more. 751 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,840 Speaker 5: But you did ask me a lot how I came. 752 00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:23,320 Speaker 4: That I can't say it more now, and I can 753 00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,600 Speaker 4: come again and tell you how things have been. 754 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:31,239 Speaker 5: Since started for my coming. That I can't say that 755 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,040 Speaker 5: this business is daying. 756 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:38,800 Speaker 4: Well, that's nothing much to it, really. I suppose it's natural. 757 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,320 Speaker 5: We all fear it. Then on your. 758 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:46,239 Speaker 4: Side that it's natural and it's not a different. 759 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:47,600 Speaker 5: Really in a way to being born. 760 00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:51,080 Speaker 4: Anyway, I'll come with I came another time. 761 00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:53,879 Speaker 5: I must go by. 762 00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 3: That was Jenny Wilson through the direct voice mediumship of Leslie. 763 00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,920 Speaker 3: I do need to tell you I edited it because 764 00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,920 Speaker 3: there were some long gaps between words, just to make 765 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,480 Speaker 3: it a little easier for you to hear. Check out 766 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:14,600 Speaker 3: the book Voices in the Dark by Leslie Flint, who 767 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:20,640 Speaker 3: was sixty years a medium, and the website Leslieflint dot 768 00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:27,000 Speaker 3: com hundreds and hundreds of recordings transcribed. The folks there 769 00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,280 Speaker 3: have done a lot of work and if you feel 770 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:33,239 Speaker 3: so inclined, perhaps leave a donation. As I often say, 771 00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,080 Speaker 3: there is more to life than meets the eye, and 772 00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:39,759 Speaker 3: there's more to you than you know. Fear not, you 773 00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:45,040 Speaker 3: will always be you Remember. Come visit me at We 774 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,759 Speaker 3: Don't Die dot com. Join one of our free Sunday gatherings. 775 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,520 Speaker 3: I'm Sandra Champlain. 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