WEBVTT - Chris Kempczinski

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<v Speaker 1>McDonald's has been at the top of the food chain

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<v Speaker 1>for over sixty years. It's CEO, Chris Kemchinsky, says it

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<v Speaker 1>stayed there because of McDonald's guaranteed quality, experience, and connection

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<v Speaker 1>to its communities. In this episode, appear to appear I

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<v Speaker 1>visited McDonald's headquarters in Chicago to find out what makes

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<v Speaker 1>their fries so addicting, what makes their Coca Cola perfect,

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<v Speaker 1>and how the restaurant plans to stay on top for

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<v Speaker 1>another sixty years. Companies more than sixty years old now,

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<v Speaker 1>and many companies over the last sixty years have gotten

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<v Speaker 1>in the fast food business. Some have done okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going out of business. But McDonald's is by far

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest. You have a market capitalization about a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and seventy five billion dollars. What is it that made

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<v Speaker 1>McDonald's by far the biggest of the fast food companies.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it starts with the brand. I mean, we

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<v Speaker 1>have a brand that is one of the most valuable

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<v Speaker 1>brands in the world. And how did you get to

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<v Speaker 1>that brand? It was a combination of things. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's started with Gray Croc recognized the importance of ubiquity

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<v Speaker 1>and so That was part of the genius or genesis

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<v Speaker 1>of of doing a franchise model, because with a franchise model,

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<v Speaker 1>he could get capital deployed, get restaurants built more quickly

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<v Speaker 1>than he could if he was trying to do this

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<v Speaker 1>all on his own. So that was one idea. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the second was the production system, the speedy production system.

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<v Speaker 1>It guaranteed equality of the experience that people knew no

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<v Speaker 1>matter where you went, you could get a consistent experience

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<v Speaker 1>at McDonald's. And then it certainly came from, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>our attachment in the local community. One of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that also Ray Kroc was very focused on was building

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<v Speaker 1>the brand at the local level. That's why he wanted

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<v Speaker 1>the franchise ease engaged in the restaurants, and so you

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<v Speaker 1>saw getting involved in schools, getting involved with you know,

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<v Speaker 1>birthday parties, all those things. Those were all part of

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<v Speaker 1>building the brand that ultimately now I get the benefit of,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, protecting and hopefully further shining the arches. So

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<v Speaker 1>you are the CEO of this company for the last

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years, and has you been doing this? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Have you had to deal with the COVID problems in

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<v Speaker 1>particular COVID has been an issue that's impacted us in

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<v Speaker 1>every country that we operated in a hundred and twenty countries,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's been kind of a unique experience because what

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<v Speaker 1>we've dealt with regional issues before. We've dealt with stars

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<v Speaker 1>and mirrors and swine flew and things like that, but

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<v Speaker 1>we've never had an issue where it impacted literally every

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<v Speaker 1>country all at about the same time, So huge issue

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<v Speaker 1>for us. It varied around the world. Some places went

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<v Speaker 1>into complete shutdown. In the US we were able to

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<v Speaker 1>keep the restaurants open, but drive through only UH, and

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<v Speaker 1>that was I think part of where are the genius

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<v Speaker 1>of our system came to light, which is you were

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<v Speaker 1>trying to manage this situation everything from Chicago. It never

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<v Speaker 1>would have worked. The fact that we're a locally owned

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<v Speaker 1>company with franchise ease, they're able to act much more

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<v Speaker 1>nimbly than than we could from the center. And somehow

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<v Speaker 1>another knock on wood a year later, Um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we are in a very strong spot, and it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to believe really, So when COVID hit, UH, many

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<v Speaker 1>people didn't go out anymore. They weren't buying McDonald's products,

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<v Speaker 1>other people's products as well. Did you have to lay

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<v Speaker 1>off people for low people? How did you deal with

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<v Speaker 1>your employees or the franchisees had to do that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't lay anybody off, certainly from the company's standpoint,

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<v Speaker 1>And our franchisees went through quite a bit of effort

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that either through government programs or through

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<v Speaker 1>things that they could do on their own, that they

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<v Speaker 1>kept attached to their staff, that they kept the staff

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<v Speaker 1>uh working and available to the restaurants. And so I think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, well, we have forty thou restaurants. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know every particular situation. By and large, we were able

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<v Speaker 1>to retain our workforce through all of that. What did

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<v Speaker 1>you learn through COVID about how to manage a company differently, better,

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<v Speaker 1>or some other ways that you would have not probably

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<v Speaker 1>learned if you had not going through COVID. I certainly

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<v Speaker 1>think one of the things that we saw was our

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<v Speaker 1>ability to stay connected through technology bes Zoom, Yeah, Amazon Chime.

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<v Speaker 1>I've learned all the different teleconferencing tools and they've all

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<v Speaker 1>worked reasonably well for us. So I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we learned things there that we have the ability to

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<v Speaker 1>to stay connected. I think the other thing though, that

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<v Speaker 1>it highlighted for US is um we ultimately are an

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<v Speaker 1>in person business. We're in person in the restaurants, were

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<v Speaker 1>in person in the office, and so well, you lose

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<v Speaker 1>something from culture, you lose something from a connectedness by

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<v Speaker 1>by being so remote and so, you know, while it

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<v Speaker 1>worked well for the time, we're committed to getting back

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<v Speaker 1>into our offices, getting back into the restaurants. And one

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<v Speaker 1>of the problems I think some of the franchises are having,

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<v Speaker 1>not just McDonald's, getting people to come back to work.

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<v Speaker 1>Either they don't want to come back to work, or

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<v Speaker 1>they for health or other reasons, or they want to

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<v Speaker 1>hire a compensation, and they often get at the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of starting jobs you might have. How hard has it

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<v Speaker 1>been to get people to come back to work. It

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<v Speaker 1>has been very challenging in the US. We have not

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<v Speaker 1>seen that issue as pronounced in Europe barrel swear on

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<v Speaker 1>the world, but in the US it certainly has been

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<v Speaker 1>a challenge. I think it's a lot of different factors

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<v Speaker 1>in it. Certainly the stimulus UH support had some element.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, if I asked the franchise ease, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so September, is everything gonna be good? Once the stimulus

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<v Speaker 1>rolls off the like will know there are other things

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<v Speaker 1>going on, so I think, you know, there's a variety

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<v Speaker 1>of things that play. But it has certainly been a

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<v Speaker 1>challenge for us on staffing at the restaurants, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>putting pressure on wages, which is what you see in

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<v Speaker 1>you know, any kind of capitalist system. UM, So employers

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<v Speaker 1>like McDonald's are now having to pay more on wages.

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<v Speaker 1>We announced in our company owned restaurants, UH sort of

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<v Speaker 1>a across the board minimum ten percent wage increase. UH

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<v Speaker 1>that has been carried forward by many of our franchise

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<v Speaker 1>ease and I think we're just having to get creative

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<v Speaker 1>about how do we get people uh to come and

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<v Speaker 1>interview for a job at McDonald's. And you're seeing our

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<v Speaker 1>franchise ease do things like, hey, you know, fifty dollars

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<v Speaker 1>for an interview or free iPhone after ninety day is

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's sort of all the things that we're

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<v Speaker 1>having to come up with right now to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>we can staff the restaurants. But most of the people

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<v Speaker 1>who are young who do work at McDonald's, are they

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<v Speaker 1>minimum wage people and they go up from minimum wage

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<v Speaker 1>or are you above the minimum wage? The legal minimum wage. Now, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're above the legal minimum wage, so it's seven and

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<v Speaker 1>a quarter. Uh. And there are very few places these

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<v Speaker 1>days that you can be competitive in the marketplace paying

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<v Speaker 1>the federal minimum wage. I think from our vantage point,

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<v Speaker 1>what we announced in our company owned restaurants is eleven

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<v Speaker 1>dollars is the starting wage, and then you know, as

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<v Speaker 1>you move up, you would you quickly progress through that.

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<v Speaker 1>If you are a restaurant manager, someone who's maybe been

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<v Speaker 1>there for a couple of years, you're earning anywhere from

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen to twenty dollars an hour, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>been largely Um. You're seeing a similar type of thing

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<v Speaker 1>with our franchise. So while we don't collect information around

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<v Speaker 1>what is you know, the average wage paid by our franchisees,

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<v Speaker 1>I would expect it's probably about ten dollars that we're

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<v Speaker 1>paying right now, just because again, the marketplace is driving it. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's always been one of the questions,

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<v Speaker 1>is you know, is this something that you want to

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<v Speaker 1>be legislated or wanted to be in the marketplace. Our

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<v Speaker 1>view is, um, we're gonna do whatever we need to

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<v Speaker 1>be successful as a business, but we also don't oppose

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<v Speaker 1>if the federal minimum wage is addressed either. So during

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<v Speaker 1>COVID there were some problems. You had some franchise I

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<v Speaker 1>guess where there were some strikes or something. Employees weren't happy.

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<v Speaker 1>What was that all about? We always have something going

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<v Speaker 1>on at McDonald's around the world there, certainly, I think

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<v Speaker 1>what you're referencing. There were um some protests about either

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<v Speaker 1>were were doing enough to protect essential workers? Um, which

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<v Speaker 1>is you know how we were deemed as a business.

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<v Speaker 1>We went to a lot of effort there to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that we provided ppe into other things like social

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<v Speaker 1>distancing the restaurant, but we had protests on that. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get protests around wage rates. Um, that will crop up.

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<v Speaker 1>So the thing about McDonald's is, no matter what has

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<v Speaker 1>happened in society, you can be certain it has some

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<v Speaker 1>permutation that affects McDonald's. And it's both the challenge of

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<v Speaker 1>the job but also what's interesting about it. Let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the major things on your menu, which I've sampled

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<v Speaker 1>over the years. Of course, Um, so the most popular

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<v Speaker 1>thing that you have on your menu, is it a

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<v Speaker 1>big mac or a quarter pounder or the French fries? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean from a volume standpoint, the fries are by

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<v Speaker 1>far the biggest within sandwiches, probably the Big Mac. It

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<v Speaker 1>does vary a little bit around the world, but but

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<v Speaker 1>the Big Mac is probably up there well. The fries

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<v Speaker 1>are intoxicating, lee difficult to avoid eating one. Can you

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<v Speaker 1>tell us what's the secret? What do you put in

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<v Speaker 1>the in the batter or the cooking oil or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>you do that is the secret? Is it the potatoes?

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<v Speaker 1>What is it? We have a room here that I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't taken you too that has all the secrets on that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I would just say there's there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>things that go into it. It's starting with, um, you

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<v Speaker 1>know where we get the potatoes from, and we have

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<v Speaker 1>proprietary relationships with that, how those potatoes are then processed, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>what we will put on those potatoes, and then ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>how they're cooked in the restaurant, the cooking oil that

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<v Speaker 1>we use, the amount of salt that we use. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of things that go into the secret recipe.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people might say the French fries might not be

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<v Speaker 1>that healthy. Some people might say that, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>If you would say that, um, what would you say

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<v Speaker 1>about that? I'd say, you know what we try to

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<v Speaker 1>do on our menu is to have choice. So we

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<v Speaker 1>have a variety of things on our menu, from more

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<v Speaker 1>indulge in items to healthier items. And you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>no different than if you go to the grocery store.

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<v Speaker 1>You can go to the salad bar, or you can

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<v Speaker 1>go to the ice cream section. And that's how we

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<v Speaker 1>approach our restaurant, which is about choice. The other thing, though,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I get asked a lot of times, why

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<v Speaker 1>don't you have more of this? Why don't you have

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<v Speaker 1>more of that? Or why did you get rid of this? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it all comes down to did itsell. So our restaurant

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<v Speaker 1>and what goes on the menu is all based on

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<v Speaker 1>what moves gets on the menu, what doesn't move comes

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<v Speaker 1>off the menu, and so ultimately we're letting the customer

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<v Speaker 1>decide what we do or don't carry on the menu.

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<v Speaker 1>Since McDonald's was started some sixty plus years ago or so,

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<v Speaker 1>there's been a greater interest in the United States and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe around the world healthier eating. Have you tried to

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<v Speaker 1>reflect that in your menu? We've tried, um, And I

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<v Speaker 1>would say, you know, it gets back to again, what

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<v Speaker 1>what sells gets on the menu and stays on the menu.

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<v Speaker 1>What we have seen consistently is, as we've tried to

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<v Speaker 1>broaden UH more of what you know, people might say

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<v Speaker 1>are better for you items, uh, there's just not as

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<v Speaker 1>strong a demand for them as there are for some

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<v Speaker 1>of our iconic classics. And so you know, we're not

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<v Speaker 1>in the business of telling people what they should or

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't eat. Our view as our obligation is to provide

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<v Speaker 1>them with total transparency and nutritional information to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that we afford them choice. But ultimately what the consumer

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<v Speaker 1>buys is up to them. Suppose I'm a vegetarian or

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<v Speaker 1>a vegan and i want to go to McDonald's, is

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<v Speaker 1>there anything there for me there? So you could certainly

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<v Speaker 1>have UM right now a salad UH in a restaurant.

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<v Speaker 1>Depending on if you're vegetarian or vegan vegetarian, they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be other offerings that you have. If you're in India,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, we have quite a broad sample of vegetarian

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<v Speaker 1>menu items, less so if you're in Lubbock, Texas, for example.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh So, again it depends on the customer and what

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<v Speaker 1>the customer wants. But we've also talked about launching mcplant

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<v Speaker 1>UH and mcplant for us as a plant based burger.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh that is available in some countries already. Uh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>something that we're gonna be testing later in the U s. So, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we'll get you a mcplant Another product I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to overlook as your famous Coca cola. Now, you

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<v Speaker 1>used to work at Pepsi. I know, so to Pepsi

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<v Speaker 1>people ever call you to remind you that you have

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<v Speaker 1>coke and maybe you should be had a few dialogue

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<v Speaker 1>over the over the years, and you know, my my

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<v Speaker 1>short answer is the way to get pepsi into McDonald's

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<v Speaker 1>is get people to prefer pepsi over coke. Back to

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<v Speaker 1>the point of we're gonna sell whatever the customer wants. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, my my pepsi friends periodically check in. But

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<v Speaker 1>some people say that your coca cola is made in

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<v Speaker 1>a certain way that's better than the coca cola could

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<v Speaker 1>buy in the bottle. So what is it that you

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<v Speaker 1>do that's different with your coca cola? So I would agree,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's better. Um. One of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>we have as an advantage is because of the volumes

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<v Speaker 1>that we do in our restaurant, um our volumes tend

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<v Speaker 1>to be higher than than anybody else out there. It

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<v Speaker 1>allows us to buy equipment that is able to be

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<v Speaker 1>tight traded or calibrated more precisely than maybe some of

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<v Speaker 1>our competitors. And so what we're able to do because

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<v Speaker 1>of the equipment that we're able to buy, which is

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<v Speaker 1>more expensive equipment, is we're able to deliver what Coke

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<v Speaker 1>would describe as their gold standard product on a more

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<v Speaker 1>consistent basis than somebody who maybe has inferior equipment in

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<v Speaker 1>their restaurant. So I should disclose that I am an

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<v Speaker 1>investor in McDonald's in effect because my firm bought a

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<v Speaker 1>piece of the China business with a Chinese partner and

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<v Speaker 1>with McDonald's UM and in China, as I understand that, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>chicken is very popular, maybe more so than beef. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that unusual where chicken is more popular than beef and

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<v Speaker 1>in a given market, Uh, you know, China is largely

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<v Speaker 1>a chicken market. I think this is one of those things.

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<v Speaker 1>It does vary depending on which part of the world

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<v Speaker 1>you're in. Brazil tends to be more of a beef market.

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<v Speaker 1>US is about fifty fifty between chicken and beef. So,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we do see that the trends evolving, but

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<v Speaker 1>chicken globally is growing faster than beef, and certainly our

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<v Speaker 1>expectation over the next five years is that chicken, more

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<v Speaker 1>so than beef, will be the dominant protein in our restaurants.

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<v Speaker 1>So there are four ways you can buy things at McDonald's,

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<v Speaker 1>as I understand, each begin with a D. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>go go through. That one is a drive through? Is

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<v Speaker 1>that a big business these days? Drive through drive to you,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a huge business for us, particularly in the US.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about seventy of the business in the US. In

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<v Speaker 1>Europe you would see at the inverse you would see

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<v Speaker 1>dining and being a much bigger part of the business

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<v Speaker 1>in Europe, but through the pandemic we did see drive

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<v Speaker 1>through also become a pretty significant part of the business.

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<v Speaker 1>Another D is delivery. You have ability to deliver? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you deliver yourself? Do you use one of the services

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<v Speaker 1>deliver people's home? We do both. It started for us

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<v Speaker 1>in Asia where we were doing our own delivery, particularly

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<v Speaker 1>in China. In the Middle East, we also have a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty sizeable delivery business where we do the delivery ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>And then in other parts of the world, like in

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<v Speaker 1>the US, we have partnered with third party operators like

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<v Speaker 1>an Uber eats or a door dash. So right now

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<v Speaker 1>we do about six billion dollars of sales a year

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<v Speaker 1>through delivery, which is growing, you know, high teens globally.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's been pretty remarkable. Another day is digital. You

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<v Speaker 1>can buy things digitally? How do you do that? So

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<v Speaker 1>the app? For us, everything is moving to the app.

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<v Speaker 1>I think for us it's been it's been an interesting

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<v Speaker 1>evolution to see where you know, for years and years

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<v Speaker 1>the center of the relationship that we had with the

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<v Speaker 1>customer in the physical restaurant, and what we're seeing, particularly

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<v Speaker 1>with gen Z and millennials, is it's moving to much

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<v Speaker 1>more of a digital relationship through the app. So yes,

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<v Speaker 1>today UH in almost every single one of our countries,

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<v Speaker 1>the US being a prime example of that. You can

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<v Speaker 1>download the McDonald's app, you can order your products through

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<v Speaker 1>the app and UH. An exciting thing we're doing right

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<v Speaker 1>now this month is we're rolling out loyalty, So when

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<v Speaker 1>you buy with the app, you also get loyalty points

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<v Speaker 1>you can redeem later for food and other benefits. It's

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<v Speaker 1>your frequent flyer version. You got it. So and the

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<v Speaker 1>last d is dying in which used to be the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that people did. But now is that a smaller

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<v Speaker 1>and smaller part of your business and you need all

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<v Speaker 1>those spaces anymore in your restaurants. It's I think still

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<v Speaker 1>a really important part of our business because a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the interaction and the memories that people form about

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<v Speaker 1>McDonald's comes from the dying in experience. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>you're right in recognizing that it is certainly, through the pandemic,

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<v Speaker 1>a less prov part of the business. I mean, our

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<v Speaker 1>view is that it is going to come back. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I think dining and eating is such a social experience.

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<v Speaker 1>There's always going to be an element of it that

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<v Speaker 1>is in person. Now, how much of it comes back,

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<v Speaker 1>time will tell. And if at some point, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we need to reduce the space for dining seating

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<v Speaker 1>that we have in our restaurants, we can always calibrate

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<v Speaker 1>and do that, But for now we're kind of on

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<v Speaker 1>a watch and c mode. I assume you have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people saying the food isn't as healthy as

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<v Speaker 1>they might want it to be. Is that the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>challenge or just growing the company? Ray Kroc had a

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<v Speaker 1>famous line that gets quoted around here fairly off and

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<v Speaker 1>even today, which is if you're not green and growing

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<v Speaker 1>your red and rotten. Let's talk about your background. Where

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<v Speaker 1>did you grow up? So? I was born in Boston,

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<v Speaker 1>grew up on the East Coast until we started moving around.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to high school in Cincinnati, uh, and then

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately went to college down in North Carolina. Well, you

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<v Speaker 1>can say the name, it's I went to do Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we shared that. And after you graduated, what did you do?

0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:01.320
<v Speaker 1>I went to Procker and Gamble. I went into their

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<v Speaker 1>band brand management program at the headquarters in Cincinnati. And

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<v Speaker 1>after that, so after that, I went to Harvard Business

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<v Speaker 1>School UM and got my m b a UM, and

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<v Speaker 1>after that I went into consulting for a few years.

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<v Speaker 1>But you spent a lot of time in the food

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<v Speaker 1>world because you were before PEPSI, you were you were

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<v Speaker 1>after after PEPSI were a craft as That's right. So

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<v Speaker 1>just something about food that you really appeal to you,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say what I love is being in consumer industries. UH.

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<v Speaker 1>For me, what I really find sort of energizing as

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<v Speaker 1>having a tangible product that I can see, touch, feel, etcetera. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>and also one that you know people can relate to

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<v Speaker 1>when I say, you know, I work at PEPSI, or

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<v Speaker 1>I work at craft or I work at McDonald's. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>immediately you can always have a conversation with people and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the fun thing for me and my current job.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, no matter where I am in the world, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>people have an opinion about McDonald's and want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you about McDonald's, and it just it makes the

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<v Speaker 1>job fun. So you came here, and that here was

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<v Speaker 1>here in Okay, and then you rose up pretty quickly

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<v Speaker 1>to become the head of America's that's right. And then

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand nineteen you became the CEO. That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>And the stock is up and the market cap is

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<v Speaker 1>up about since then. So I assume your board is happy.

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<v Speaker 1>So far, so good. Yeah, but some of your predecessors

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<v Speaker 1>had problems. They didn't last that long and for health

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<v Speaker 1>or other reasons. So is there a bad karma you

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<v Speaker 1>feel to being CEO or you think you can outlive

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<v Speaker 1>the bad karma? Yeah? I hope not. I try not

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<v Speaker 1>to think about it too much actually, UM. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think when you're in these jobs, you know, you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're just very grateful for the time that you're in

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<v Speaker 1>the role. And I don't spend a whole lot of

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<v Speaker 1>time thinking about you know, sort of you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>future and all that stuff. It's it's about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so long as I keep delivering for the company, us,

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<v Speaker 1>long as we keep performing. Um. I certainly, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>feel really fortunate to be in the role that I'm in.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a global company. UM now that COVID is

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<v Speaker 1>not behind us, but certainly receiving a bit. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>traveling the world? Are you expect to travel the world

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<v Speaker 1>war I do expect to travel starting next month. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, between now and the end of the year,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got five international trips lined up. Are when you

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<v Speaker 1>travel internationally, you're trying to tell the local franchises to

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<v Speaker 1>do work more, do better job? Or what are you

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<v Speaker 1>trying to do when you travel you're recruiting it franchisees

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<v Speaker 1>or are you telling them why your new food products

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be good or why Yeah, there there's

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<v Speaker 1>a variety of things I'm trying to get done. When

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm out there, the biggest thing is listening, so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, hearing what's on the mind of our franchisees,

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<v Speaker 1>hearing what's on the mind of our people. That's one

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<v Speaker 1>thing I'm looking at the second is making sure that

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<v Speaker 1>the strategies that we're talking about at a corporate level

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<v Speaker 1>are they cascading down and we're seeing those in the restaurants.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of times, what can happen is you think

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<v Speaker 1>you've got clarity around what the strategy is and then

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't actually end up getting executed. So I'm looking

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<v Speaker 1>at the connection between our strategy and is it showing

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<v Speaker 1>up in the execution the restaurant. I also will just

0:19:58.119 --> 0:20:01.119
<v Speaker 1>spend time being a little bit of a cheerleader. Um

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<v Speaker 1>when I go into the restaurant. As you would imagine

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<v Speaker 1>the role, Uh, it's it's about creating excitement and appreciation

0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:10.080
<v Speaker 1>for the crew working in that restaurant. So I try

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<v Speaker 1>to do some of that. And then I also make

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<v Speaker 1>time when I'm traveling to meet our young up and

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<v Speaker 1>coming employees kind of our high potential. So there's a

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<v Speaker 1>variety of things I'm doing. So when you meet with

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<v Speaker 1>your local franchises anywhere in the world, do you have

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<v Speaker 1>lunch at McDonald's or do you say let's go somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 1>We we will always eat in the restaurant. Dinner, we

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<v Speaker 1>typically will go somewhere other than McDonald's. But breakfast and

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<v Speaker 1>lunch will always be in a McDonald's. And do you

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<v Speaker 1>ever go to your competitors stores and kind of see

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<v Speaker 1>what they're doing to get some new information? We do?

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<v Speaker 1>We do, UM, usually don't stay there too long. Usually

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<v Speaker 1>the service isn't as good and the food isn't as

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<v Speaker 1>good either, but we will go in there to just check.

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<v Speaker 1>So McDonald's is always coming up with new products. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's coming up with new products in every line of business,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're always coming up with new food products that

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<v Speaker 1>people will presumably like. But do you taste them all yourself?

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<v Speaker 1>And do you have to approve a new product? Or

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<v Speaker 1>you just say I've got to the people that do

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<v Speaker 1>the food tasting. Yeah, we have a great menu team. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>It's their job to work typically with franchise ease and

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<v Speaker 1>ulultimately customers to develop the new food items. Occasionally I

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<v Speaker 1>might just say, hey, I'd be interested in trying that.

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<v Speaker 1>The team will usually humor me on those types of things. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you don't like it, what happens nothing ordinarily

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<v Speaker 1>other than just it's interesting that you didn't like it.

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<v Speaker 1>Where I will where I do exercise as CEO authorities

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<v Speaker 1>around our core menu, So you can't touch the big Mac,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't touch the quarter pound, or you can't touch

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<v Speaker 1>the fries, um, you can't touch hamburger cheeseburger and make

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<v Speaker 1>any changes to those without my approval. But outside of

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<v Speaker 1>the core menu you have a lot of latitude and

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<v Speaker 1>certainly on new items. So what do you think is

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest challenge of being the CEO of McDonald's just

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<v Speaker 1>just keep growing the company? Or I assume you have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people saying the food isn't as healthy

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<v Speaker 1>as they might want it to be. Is that the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest challenge or just growing the company? I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's about UM As a business, we have to

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<v Speaker 1>be growing. And Ray Kroc had a famous line that

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<v Speaker 1>gets quoted around here fairly often even today, which is,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not green and growing, you're red and rotten UM.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that philosophy is part of our business,

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<v Speaker 1>which is we are a growth business. So how do

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<v Speaker 1>we grow is a big part of it. But where

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<v Speaker 1>it will come up is and things that you were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about, you know, for example, you know the menu items, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>if we're perceived as not meeting the needs of customers,

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<v Speaker 1>were not going to grow. So if customers are seeking

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<v Speaker 1>healthier food options and we're slow on delivering those, it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to impact our growth. So that that's what I

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