1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome again Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 1: Encourage you to go download the iHeartRadio app. Jump in 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: download it. You can be traveling all over the country, 5 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: heck around the world, and you'll still be able to 6 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: hear our show every single day. Can also go subscribe 7 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 1: to the Clay Travis buck Sexton Show podcast. Go give 8 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 1: us five stars. Be happy to have you as a 9 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: part of that crew. I think what fifteen sixteen million 10 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: of you are downloading the podcast every single month. 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And we got a lot more announcements coming 21 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: in the near future about additional affiliates. That's a credit 22 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: to you guys. Thank you for everything that you are 23 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: doing to help this show grow. So we talked about 24 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: this a little bit off the top bocks. And by 25 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: the way, we're going to talk with Glenn Youngkin here 26 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: in about twenty five minutes, and actually, let's let's mention 27 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: Youngkin before we even talk. I will tell you this, 28 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 1: he reached out to us. Now, some of you out 29 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: there are going to say, oh, what is it. We're 30 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: to the point now where we're trying to put on 31 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: as many different people who are running for their Republican 32 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: nomination because we have the luxury of this platform and 33 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: we want them to be able to talk to all 34 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,559 Speaker 1: of you, whether it's Trump or whether it's Vivik Ramaswami, 35 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: who I believe is going to be on later this week. 36 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: DeSantis was on earlier this week. Nikki Haley, Tim Scott. 37 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: We've had basically everybody Mike Pence memorably, we've had basically 38 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: everybody on who is running for the Republican nomination so far. 39 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: Glenn Youngkin hasn't announced, but he's doing a bit of 40 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,839 Speaker 1: a media tour buck he was on Fox News. He's 41 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: gonna come on with us. We're happy to have him on. 42 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: We've had him on several times before. But I believe 43 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: I'm correct Producer Ali maybe listening she's up Happy eightieth 44 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 1: birthday to her father. I believe she is celebrating with 45 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: him in Massachusetts. I think we've requested Glenn Youngkin every 46 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: other time he's been on Buck. So my antenna, my 47 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: Spidey sense goes off a little bit and starts tingling. 48 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: When Glenn Youngkin is now out and about doing a 49 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: media tour, it makes me wonder how much of this 50 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: is preparation for potentially announcing he's gonna run. Spidey sense 51 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: tingling for you two buck. 52 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 2: Or crazy idea, certainly tingling when you've got somebody who 53 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 2: let's remember the off yr election that he had in 54 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: Virginia was a really strong showing correct. Now, let's let's 55 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 2: all be clear. Does anyone think that right now anyone 56 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: on the Republican side is going to catch the front runner? 57 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 2: I mean that the odds on this are are quite low. 58 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: But to the point we've made before on who would 59 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 2: be a VP candidate, for example, who, Let's be clear, 60 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 2: you have Donald Trump the far and away front runner 61 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 2: right now, youngkin representing Virginia and possibly being able to 62 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 2: deliver Virginia for Republicans. I don't know if that's really possible. 63 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 2: Some people I know who look at the polls say 64 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 2: that that's that was a fluke. Or let's put that aside. 65 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 2: Virginia would certainly be a lot more competitive and Democrats 66 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 2: would have to spend more money there than they anticipated 67 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 2: if a popular, moderate Republican governor was on a ticket. 68 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 2: Let's say, with Trump, it puts Virginia in play. As 69 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 2: you and I keep discussing, we are had. I don't know, 70 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 2: I should check this out. Has there ever been a 71 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 2: time before is certainly it's not a recent memory. Has 72 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 2: there ever been a time, though, where you had the 73 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 2: likely two presidential contenders for the major parties both would 74 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 2: only be able to serve one term? You know what 75 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 2: I mean? So the vice presient cidential. You know, Trump 76 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: would only get one term, Biden would only get one term. Clearly, 77 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 2: so the VP pick is a more feels like a 78 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 2: more substantial and immediate role for the Republicans and for 79 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 2: the Democrats. I think it's so immediate for the Democrats 80 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 2: that the VP is going to become the president if 81 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 2: they were to win. But I think that that VP 82 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 2: slot on a Trump ticket for people feels like a 83 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 2: launch pad in two years to run for the Republican 84 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 2: nomination with the full weight of the GOP behind him. 85 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 2: Do you see what I mean? So, yeah, no, I 86 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,119 Speaker 2: find that interesting. I'm a nerd. 87 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: So I went and made sure I was a correct 88 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: on this. Grover Cleveland only president to leave the White 89 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: House and return for a second term four years later. 90 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: So Grover Cleveland, for all you Grover Cleveland fans out there, 91 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 1: was president from eighteen eighty five to eighteen eighty nine, 92 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: lost and then came back and returned from eighteen ninety 93 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: three to eighteen ninety seven, so that I believe would 94 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: be the only time. And I'm not an expert, buck, 95 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: if you want to look up in real time here 96 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: who did Grover Cleveland lose to? And was the eighteen 97 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: ninety three election a rematch of the of the eighteen 98 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: ninety election? 99 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 2: You are stretching my knowledge on the fly here on 100 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 2: national radio. I would have to google that. 101 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: I mean, if you knew off the top of your 102 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: head who Grover Cleveland ran against in the eighteen eighties, 103 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: what per se, I bet there are two hundred and 104 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: fifty people listening to us right now, and we have 105 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 1: an audience in the millions that can tell you right 106 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: off the top who Grover Cleveland ran against in the 107 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: late eighteen eighties. You have to be a stud historian 108 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: to know the answer to that right off the top 109 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: of your head, or an expert in you know how 110 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: history works, buck. Now it used to be like you're 111 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: kind of a generalist, and now history is to the 112 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 1: point where you just know everything that happened on the 113 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: second day of the Battle of Gettysburg, right if you're 114 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: a Civil War his story, and it's like, hey, I 115 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: can tell you every minute of July second, eighteen sixty 116 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: three from and I'm a nerd the moment that Joshua 117 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: Lawrence Chamberlain in the twentieth main defended the left flank 118 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: on the battle on the little roundtop, to the moment 119 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: that Longstreets attack started, to the meeting that Lee had 120 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: to decide what the attack was going to be, to 121 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: when Hill got shot, Like every minute's down. So I 122 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: would bet there's maybe two hundred and fifty people out 123 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 1: there who know the answer to that question. But the 124 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 1: question that it begs is associated with Trump, right, because 125 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: what we said we were going to discuss and we're 126 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: going to talk with Youngkin about this is what's going 127 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: to go on with the Trump charges in particular. You 128 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: put it, I think pretty succinctly. Buck, there is a 129 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 1: strong case that the twenty twenty four election comes down 130 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: to does Trump win the presidency or does he go 131 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 1: to prison? Those could be the stakes, or certainly face 132 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: the prospect of prison, right. I mean, they recharges in DC, 133 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 1: they're going to convict him and try to put him 134 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: in prison. 135 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 2: But this is what I mean, like, he's definitely facing 136 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 2: the possibility if they delay the election, I'm sorry, delay 137 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 2: the prosecution until after the election. Okay, here we go. 138 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 2: History nerds, hold on a. 139 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: Second, So that has happened before, Buck, We've got the history. 140 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: Nerd greg Are, one of our production crew here points 141 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: out that in eighteen eighty eight, as all of you knew, 142 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: Grover Cleveland lost to Benjamin Harrison, and then he came 143 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: back in eighteen ninety two for Grover Cleveland to defeat 144 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: Benjamin Harrison. So I believe Buck to answer your question, 145 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: which is a good hypothetical. This would be only the 146 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: second time in United States history that we had a 147 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: rematch where in this scenario both men would have been 148 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: only able to serve one term. 149 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 2: So Trump is trying to go full Grover Cleveland on 150 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 2: this one. Yes, there you go, it has happened. 151 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: I would bet the eighteen ninety six election. For those 152 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: of you who are big eighteen ninety six election officionados, 153 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: I bet it was a wide open crazy spot because 154 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: it wouldn't It wouldn't surprise me. Buck to your point, 155 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: if we have Trump versus Biden in twenty four, it 156 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me. If one hundred people run for president 157 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty eight, like legitimately fifty on each side. 158 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: I think anybody who is ever considered running for president 159 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: will run. And I'll just toss this out because I'm 160 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: not hearing you and I have talked about it off there. 161 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that Trump would leave if he lost 162 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: in twenty four. People have this idea. Oh, if Trump 163 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: lost in twenty four, his political career would be over. 164 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: Assuming he stayed healthy, I would just say, why do 165 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: you run again? 166 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 2: Trump? 167 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: Die hards would be like, there's no way, I'm supporting 168 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 1: him in twenty twenty eight, he'd run again. Yeah if 169 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: he's hell yeah, oh yeah, he'd run again. So this 170 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: idea that somehow twenty twenty four is the end for Trump, 171 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 1: it's certainly the end for Biden, because I'm not sure 172 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: that Biden even makes it to twenty twenty four in 173 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: terms of being able to, you know, walk. If you 174 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: watch him with Prince Charles in England right now, I mean, 175 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: he looks like a lost person dressed in a nice suit. 176 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:14,079 Speaker 1: But I think the answer is on this legal situation. 177 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: And I said this from the moment it started, that 178 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: trump legal strategy has to one hundred percent be to 179 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: delay as long as possible. And I think the filing 180 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: that they put in last night, Buck, I went and 181 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: read it, it's the right it's the right position. There 182 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: should not be an election and not be a criminal 183 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: trial of the leading opposition to the Democrat president during 184 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: we should the trial cannot happen, in my opinion, during 185 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,839 Speaker 1: the actual election season. So I don't understand it's that 186 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: Eileen Carter, whatever the Eileen Cannon, I think the judge there, 187 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 1: I think I think that has to be delayed. 188 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 2: One thing that will result in the legal arguments around 189 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 2: this can get very contentious and very complic cadd really quickly. 190 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 2: One of the challenges whenever you're bringing a case about 191 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 2: I know this from what I saw happen when I 192 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 2: was in the CIA. I remember there were there were 193 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:18,479 Speaker 2: more prosecutions under the Espionage Act under the Obama administration 194 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 2: than every previous presidency combined, which is a stat that 195 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 2: people should remember. Think about that everyone. Obama's DJ went 196 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 2: after more people using the Espionage Act than the history 197 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 2: of all presidents added together before him, which is just wild. 198 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 2: But anyway, one of the problems they face. One of 199 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 2: the issues that comes up is, well, I don't think 200 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 2: this information is as sensitive as you're pretending it is. 201 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 2: I think this needs to be Now, the court will say, oh, 202 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 2: for national security reasons, we have to keep this secret. Well, 203 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 2: then what does the defense they call this gray mailing? Right, 204 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 2: what does the defense say? Oh, okay, so people aren't 205 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 2: really allowed to know whether this is actually secret or 206 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 2: not because the government has to keep it so secret. 207 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 2: In some cases, the government will back down a little 208 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 2: bit because it actually is so sensitive that there's the 209 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 2: concern over it becoming public disclosure. In a court. I 210 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 2: know there are procedures where they can still keep things 211 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 2: secret in a court, but it looks bad for the 212 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 2: government sometimes if the defense says this isn't and in 213 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 2: this case with Trump, of course he's going to say 214 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 2: this stuff isn't what they say it is, it's nonsense. 215 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 2: And then you get into as the government willing to 216 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 2: risk people. Seeing as I've said, everybody who's ever held 217 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 2: the clearance can look at something and go that's classified 218 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 2: classified as in that actually should be secret, or this 219 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 2: is part of the ninety five percent of stuff that's 220 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 2: overclassified that doesn't really matter and makes no difference. So 221 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 2: that gets really into the wrangling, the legal wrangling back 222 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 2: and forth. 223 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Trump to be clear for everybody out there 224 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 1: who doesn't know this. Trump has said, hey, if you're 225 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: going to charge me for maintaining these documents, I want 226 00:11:56,440 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: everybody to know exactly what I had. So he's to 227 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: call in the government's bluff here, and if they refuse, 228 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: then they're trying to put him in prison for having 229 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: documents that you and me and everybody out there who 230 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: are American citizens aren't even able to know what they are. 231 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: Which makes it feel as if even more the fix 232 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: is in when it comes to trying to put Donald 233 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: Trump in prison. And I think sometimes it's important to 234 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: just circle around, circle back around, and think about where 235 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: we are. Your government, fuck yours minds. Everybody out there 236 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: listening is trying to put the chief political rival of 237 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,719 Speaker 1: the president of the United States, the most powerful man 238 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: in the world, is trying to put his chief political 239 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: rival in prison for the rest of his life over 240 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: a dispute where papers should be kept. Just think about that. 241 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: This is the essence. Joe Biden is trying to put 242 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: his chief political rival in prison for the rest of 243 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: his life, keep him from running against him, over a 244 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: dispute surrounding where papers should be kept to be most secure. Yep, 245 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: that's the essence of what's going on here. Just to 246 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: make it clear, paper dispute. The chief political rival of 247 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: the United States president should be put in prison for 248 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: the rest of his life. 249 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 2: That's where we are. And I think you're going to 250 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 2: see in Georgia, assuming that grand jury comes down with 251 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 2: an indictment, the criminalization of legal theory. Effectively, yes, we 252 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 2: think that the law allows the following, No, it doesn't. 253 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 2: You're going to prison. That's the way that they're hoping 254 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 2: it goes down in Georgia. And then for a lot 255 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 2: of lawyers out there, I feel like this is a 256 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 2: what moment, Although a lot of lawyers hate Trump, so 257 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 2: they'll just pretend they don't know what's Yeah. And by 258 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 2: the way, this is important too. 259 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: They changed the law after the twenty twenty dispute over 260 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: what Mike Pence could or could not do. If it 261 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 1: wasn't a disputed legal theory, why did they change the law. 262 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: We don't need to change the law when everybody understands 263 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: what the law is. You change the law when there 264 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: is an uncertainty in the law and you want to 265 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: remove that uncertainty. That's a really big part of Trump's defense, 266 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: I think, is that they changed the law on presidential 267 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: succession because there was a concern about the argument that 268 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: Trump made in terms of what the vice president's role 269 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: was and the slate of electors that were going to 270 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: be sent. 271 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 2: It's important to factor that in. 272 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: But I want to tell you in the meantime, Innovation 273 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: refunds name of the company, making it possible for tens 274 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: of thousands of small businesses to get a refund of 275 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: their taxes from the IRS. 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We're 294 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 2: gonna be joined by the Governor of Virginia Governor Glenn 295 00:15:55,960 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 2: Younkin here in just a few minutes, I port if 296 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 2: you saw this one, Clay, but I had a feeling 297 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 2: something like this was was going to uh, it was 298 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 2: going to come out. You remember, for a back was 299 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 2: just fixated in the news cycle on this uh Titanic 300 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 2: submarine situation, right ocean Gate, the whole thing. And then 301 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 2: we were all told once it was clear that there 302 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 2: were no survivors that and there were there was even 303 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 2: a some graphics that went around that showed an instantaneous 304 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 2: crushing of the submarine, and so we I think people 305 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 2: comforted themselves, it's such a tragic situation, comfort to themselves 306 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 2: with the thought that oh they didn't even know. It 307 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 2: happened so quickly. It was like if you know, if 308 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 2: you're sitting on top of a of a bomb, if 309 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 2: you're sitting on top of a brick of C four, 310 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 2: if it goes off, you're not even going to feel 311 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 2: or know anything. Turns out, now there's new analysis. Do 312 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 2: you see this? No? Yeah, it lost power And this 313 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 2: is according to an expert, a Spanish submarine expert has 314 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 2: gone on TV. He said, you know what really happened here? 315 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 2: They lost power and then it started to drop like 316 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 2: a stone for about five thousand feet and everybody was 317 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 2: at the bottom of the submarine. If you think about 318 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 2: it dropping down, everybody would go almost like an elevator falling. 319 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 2: They'd all get sort of pushed on to one end 320 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 2: of it, and they probably knew for about a minute 321 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 2: that they were doomed. And then the thing collapsed in, 322 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 2: which is rough. So that's the It also just aligns 323 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 2: more with what you could think that, you know, it 324 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 2: seems to make more sense as a theory. Unfortunately, but 325 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 2: it's the top story right now in the Daily Mail 326 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 2: because I think people are realizing, oh my god, this 327 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 2: was actually terrifying. This wasn't an instantaneous This was a 328 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 2: terrifying death dive, is what the Daily Mail's calling it. 329 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 1: Well, wait, to just make everybody's Tuesday a little better, Buck, 330 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: just what we all talked. Well, there they died, but 331 00:17:58,240 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: at least it blew up instaneously. 332 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 2: They knew. 333 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 1: Now you all know, they had a terrifying death plunge 334 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: and then they knew they were all gonna die. Thanks, Buck, Look, 335 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you we'll talk with Glynn Yunkin in 336 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: a moment coming up. 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Get thirty five percent 346 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: off your subscription for the life of the product when 347 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,360 Speaker 1: you use my name Clay and the checkout process. That's 348 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 1: thirty five percent off. Go today choq dot com. Join 349 00:18:56,280 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: now by Virginia Governor Glenn Youngkin. He is continuing to 350 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 1: make the Commonwealth of Virginia a state that many people, 351 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: especially if you are sane, are enjoying living in, particularly 352 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: given how many crazy blue state governors there are all 353 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 1: over the place. So we appreciate the governor joining us 354 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,360 Speaker 1: right now. And I got to ask you right off 355 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 1: the top, given the success that you've had in Virginia. 356 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: Given the success you've had endorsing candidates who have also 357 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 1: won in Virginia, are you one hundred percent taking yourself 358 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: out of running for president in twenty twenty four or 359 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: are you still open to the idea. 360 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 3: So, first of all, I'm just so thrilled to be 361 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 3: with you guys, and I always enjoy being on the 362 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 3: Bucking Clay Show, So thank you, and first of all, 363 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 3: and then second of all, I want to thank you 364 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 3: for the accolades about the Commonwealth and we are cooking. 365 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 3: I am so pleased. You know, we've had We've had 366 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 3: tremendous economic growth. We've got one hundred and seventy five 367 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 3: thousand more people working today and when we started. When 368 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 3: we started, Virginia's forty even in the nation and job 369 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 3: recovery coming out of the pandemic, and now we're in 370 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 3: the top five. We have invested in choice in public schools, 371 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 3: we backed the blue We've made government more efficient. We 372 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 3: saved one point two billion dollars in appropriated money that 373 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 3: didn't need to be spent in the first six months. 374 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 3: And I guess what I'm saying is that there's room 375 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 3: for common sense conservative leadership in the Commonwealth of Virginia, 376 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 3: and it works, and it works, and so and so. 377 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 3: To your questions specifically, I am so humbled by the 378 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 3: fact that you would even ask it. I mean literally, 379 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, forty years ago, I 380 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 3: was washing dishes and taken out trash at a diner 381 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 3: in Virginia Beach and I've been only been doing this 382 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 3: for eighteen months. And so the fact that I think 383 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 3: people are recognizing what's going on in Virginia is really encouraging. 384 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 3: I mean, we we did take a blue state and 385 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 3: start the process of turning it red with our election 386 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 3: and with winning our state wide races with me and 387 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 3: win some seat and Jason Ars and taking back our House. 388 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 3: But our Senate is still out there, and that's why 389 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 3: I am laser focused and only focused on Virginia and 390 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 3: our elections this year are so critical. We have got 391 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 3: to hold our House and we've got to flip our Senate. 392 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 3: They're the mid terms where I think our record will 393 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 3: be put to the ballot. I am excited about that process. 394 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 3: We've got great candidates. I'm laser focused on winning this year, 395 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 3: and everybody in Virginia is focused on making sure we 396 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 3: continue to do all the great things that we are doing. 397 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 3: Because what you said at the beginning was spot on. 398 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 3: We for the first time in nine years, are seeing 399 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 3: early data that suggests that there's more people moving to 400 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 3: Virginia than moving away. That breaks a nine year run 401 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 3: where there were more people moving away than moving here 402 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 3: from the other states. In this net migration of people 403 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 3: voting with literally voting with their feet. I want to 404 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 3: stay in Virginia. I want to come to Virginia. 405 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 2: And we haven't heard of no yet, Governor. That's what 406 00:21:58,800 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 2: I was going to go with. 407 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 1: Buck just pointed out, we haven't heard of no yet. 408 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: You're a sports guy. I think your dad played at Duke. 409 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: You played at Rice right now, that answer, Governor sounds 410 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: like when a coach is having a lot of success 411 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: at a smaller school and his name's getting rumored for 412 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 1: a bigger job, and the coach says, boy, I really 413 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: love it here. You know, we're going to talk to 414 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 1: Tommy Tuberville. He once said, Governor that he was not 415 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: he was only going to leave Oxford, Mississippi in a 416 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: pine box. And then the next year he left and 417 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: took the Auburn job in the SEC. So you sounded 418 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: to me like a coach who's saying, Hey, I really 419 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 1: like where I am right now, but you're not saying 420 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:37,479 Speaker 1: you're going to be there forever. 421 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 3: Well, let me be clear. I've never got a promotion 422 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 3: in my business career without doing a great job in 423 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 3: the one that I had, And I love being governor 424 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 3: in Virginia, and we've got a lot of work to 425 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 3: do and I want to deliver for Virginias. 426 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 2: Governor Glenn Youngkin with us right now of Virginia. And 427 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 2: one of the things we get asked about a lot here, sir, 428 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 2: is election integrity issues and just also the machinery that 429 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 2: has to be in place to replicate I mean, you 430 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 2: just said it there and the facts speak for themselves. 431 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 2: Virginia is experiencing a bit of a conservative renaissance right now, 432 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 2: but that's only possible because you're getting the right votes 433 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 2: in the right places at the right time. How do 434 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 2: you see what you've done in that state perhaps playing 435 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 2: out in other key states in the twenty twenty four election, 436 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 2: And just how do you view the issue of election 437 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 2: integrity more broadly, Well, let me. 438 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 3: Begin with the elections in Virginia are secure and safe. 439 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 3: There's a paper ballot for every voter, and we have 440 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 3: counting machines, not voting machines, and so we have clear 441 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 3: audits that demonstrate that our elections are safe. What we 442 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 3: are doing this year is critically important because we are 443 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 3: having the midterms in Virginia this year where our entire 444 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 3: House and our entire sentence is up, and I have 445 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 3: a split legislature. As I said, brought the House when 446 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 3: we were hired back in twenty twenty one, but the 447 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 3: Senate wasn't. It wasn't on the ballot, and this year 448 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 3: it is. And so we have launched today a huge 449 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 3: initiative called Secure your Vote Virginia dot com, where we 450 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 3: are asking Republicans to get off the sidelines and embrace 451 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 3: absentee voting. Embrace early voting. Come to this website and 452 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 3: register to be on the permanent absentee ballot list, or 453 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,479 Speaker 3: registered to to get an absentee ballot, or to just 454 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 3: make a plan to vote early. Because I'm so tired 455 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 3: of us being down thousands of votes and when we 456 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,719 Speaker 3: go into election day when we in fact should be winning, 457 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 3: and so we've got to get everybody's vote secured and counted. 458 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 3: This is a giant effort for US across the Commonwealth 459 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 3: of Virginia. I think this can be a blueprint for 460 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 3: next year. But right now, we're going to prove that 461 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 3: it works in the commonwealth. Secure your vote Virginia dot com, 462 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,919 Speaker 3: make a plan to vote early, Register to get an 463 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,239 Speaker 3: absentee ballot if you're not going to be here, so 464 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 3: that we can stop being behind thousands of votes on 465 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 3: election day. 466 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: If Trump runs against Joe Biden again in twenty twenty four, 467 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 1: let's pretend that that's the race. Do you think as 468 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: Trump's vice president you could deliver Virginia to the red 469 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: camp like you did for the governor's race. Or do 470 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: you think Trump is going to have a hard time 471 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: winning Virginia or other states? In other words, when you 472 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: look at that calculus you just laid out, I mean, 473 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: you're a quant guy like you worked in business. You're 474 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: looking and saying, hey, we need more votes in We've 475 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: got to go out and get way more aggressive on 476 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: early voting. 477 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 2: I'm sure you looked at the data. 478 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: Heck, Democrats managed to elect John Fetterman and he can't 479 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: even speak, I mean, he can't do the job, and 480 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 1: he just won a toss up state. Can Trump win 481 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four if you're on the ticket, either 482 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 1: as president or vice president, do you think you could 483 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: deliver Virginia to the Republican Party. 484 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, thank you for that really complementary hypothetical, 485 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 3: and I've just got to back up. I believe, first 486 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 3: of all, in twenty twenty three, we can repeat what 487 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 3: we did in twenty twenty one, which is connect with 488 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 3: voters around common sense, conservative solutions to the most important 489 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 3: issues and bring everybody together around voting for change. And 490 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 3: that's what we did in Virginia. I think that's where 491 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 3: the nation's going to be in twenty twenty four. You know, 492 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 3: we've seen Joe Biden completely mess up the country. We 493 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 3: have a porous border that is causing a humanitarian crisis, 494 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:43,199 Speaker 3: a fentanyl crisis, a national security crisis. We've been so 495 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 3: weak internationally that now the Chinese literally scoff at us 496 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 3: when they're engaged in any kind of interaction with US. 497 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 3: And our economy has been a disaster where I can't 498 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 3: believe that the White House doesn't fully appreciate what their 499 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 3: own economic advisors will telling them, which is when you 500 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 3: unleash reckless spending it drives inflation. It's the number one 501 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 3: issue that we hear from voters in Virginia's they're concerned 502 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 3: about their economic future, They're concerned about inflation. And so 503 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 3: that's why in Virginia, what we did in twenty twenty 504 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 3: one and we will do it again this year in 505 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, is demonstrate that voters, not just Republicans 506 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 3: but independents and a lot of Democrats come together around 507 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 3: these issues because they want solutions, they want results, and 508 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 3: that's I think we've delivered in Virginia, and I'm looking 509 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 3: forward to demonstrating again this November that we can bring 510 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 3: people together around these topics because solutions matter. 511 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 2: But could you deliver Virginia as Trump's VP ser in 512 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four theoretically hypothetically. 513 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 3: Well, as you know, I don't really play the hypothetical games, 514 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 3: but I think I think the Republican nominee will win 515 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 3: Virginia in twenty twenty four. 516 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: There we go there, because that's key because if that 517 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 1: were to happen, Governor, the Republican is going to win 518 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: the White House. Right if you flip virgin any of 519 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: the math doesn't work for Democrats, which is why your 520 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: state's so significant that bo Republicans can win again. 521 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 3: Let me, let me, let me go back and just reiterate. 522 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 3: The key here is voters have to have confidence that 523 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 3: their elected officials are going to deliver results for them. 524 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 3: And the bottom line is voters in Virginia, what I 525 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 3: learned in twenty twenty one is that when we deliver results, 526 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 3: they reward us, you know. And what we've seen, of course, 527 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 3: is that the left liberals continue to put up roadblocks. 528 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 3: I mean, just to get specific on you, We've gotten 529 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 3: a lot done in Virginia, but I have a Senate 530 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 3: that's controlled by liberal Democrats, and they put up roadblocks. 531 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 3: And just this past year, they blocked bills that would 532 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 3: charge dealers that deal drugs that kill people with a 533 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 3: felony homicide. They chose dealers over over victims. They blocked 534 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 3: a bill that would restrict big text ability to gather 535 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 3: data on minors, and they so they chose big tech 536 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 3: and social media over kids. They blocked the bill that 537 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 3: would unwind something that was done in our last legislature 538 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 3: under Democrat rule that allowed California to dictate what cars 539 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 3: Virginians buy. And of course they're standing in the way 540 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 3: of our efforts to continue to reduce and cut taxes 541 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 3: so we can reduce the cost of living and make 542 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 3: Virginia a much more affordable place to be. These are 543 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 3: common sense things, and at the end of the day, 544 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 3: we've got to recognize that there's common sense conservative values 545 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 3: that can be translated into policies and into governing that 546 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 3: deliver results. That's what voters want, that's the key, deliver 547 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 3: results that in fact make people want people's lives better. 548 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 3: I think that's what we're doing in Virginia, and that's 549 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 3: why this election this year is so important for us. 550 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 3: I think we can hold our House. I think we 551 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 3: can flip our Senate, and in a twenty four month period, 552 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 3: we can demonstrate that a state that was really lost, 553 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 3: it was viewed as being only Democrat run and reliably Democrat, 554 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 3: all of a sudden has become a state that is 555 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 3: not only in play, but one that has taken a 556 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 3: full shift with Republicans elected at the governor, lieutenant governor, 557 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 3: attorney general level, holding our House and flipping our Senate. 558 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 3: I think this is a big year for US. 559 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 2: Governor. Youngkin of Virginia, Sir, what's that website again? For 560 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 2: the voting initiative. 561 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 3: Secure your Vote Virginia dot Com. Come to it, make 562 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 3: a plan so that you can vote early this year. 563 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 3: We start on September the twenty second. It is secure, 564 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 3: it is safe. You can track your ballots so you 565 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 3: know that your ballot is the one that's getting getting 566 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 3: submitted and counted. And this is the way we're going 567 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 3: to make sure that we're not down thousands of votes 568 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 3: on election day. 569 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 2: Governor Youngkin, thanks for being with us here on claim Back. 570 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 2: Appreciate sir, guys. 571 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 3: Always great to be with you, and I just appreciate 572 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 3: all you do. 573 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 2: Thank you, sir, my friends. If you're a gun owner 574 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 2: like I am, I also want you to join me 575 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 2: in being a Mantis X owner. Mantis Exit Firearms training System. 576 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 2: It's no ammo, it's all electronic. Look, I just had 577 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 2: this recently. I had rain day. I was out at 578 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 2: the range, so I only got a We didn't get 579 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 2: to long guns. I only got to use handguns. But 580 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 2: at least we got the handgun shooting again. But you 581 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 2: know what, I was more on target than I would 582 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 2: have been otherwise. You know why, Because I have the 583 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 2: Mantis X system at home, I can't get to the 584 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 2: range that often. I tried to get a couple times 585 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 2: a month. But with mantis X, my trigger pull, my 586 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 2: overall technique is getting better all the time. At home, 587 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 2: just sitting here in my office doing radio. 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Mantis x dot com 601 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 2: that's m A and t I s x dot com. 602 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: Subscribe to CNB twenty four to seven and did never 603 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: miss a minute of clay and while getting behind the 604 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: scene access to special content for members on Lake. 605 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 2: All right, team, let's let's open up some lines coming 606 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 2: up here for the next hour on our Virginia based audience. 607 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 2: I've got an uncle in Virginia. I had a grandmother 608 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 2: who passed some years ago from Virginia. I spent a 609 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 2: lot of time in that state, and that of course 610 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 2: working at Langley, which really feels like it's in DC, 611 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 2: but it is technically in Virginia. I want to know 612 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 2: if people out there are feeling like their governor. I mean, 613 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,959 Speaker 2: that's a guy who's look Clay. You know, we've been 614 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 2: in this game a little while. We've heard a lot 615 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 2: of people talking about a lot of things on the air. 616 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 2: That's a guy who is certainly considering running at some 617 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 2: point for president. The only question in my mind, I 618 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 2: shouldn't say considered running is going to run for president? 619 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 2: The only question in my mind is this cycle or 620 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 2: does he wait? Because if Trump wins, you're gonna have 621 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 2: somebody else who's gonna have to get in the mix 622 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 2: in two years. That's two years, is not four two years. 623 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 2: Feels like it's much more of a wait and see situation. Yeah. 624 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: So the other thing you need to know about Virginia 625 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: is you can only serve one term. So he was 626 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: elected in twenty twenty one. His term would run out 627 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five. And I don't believe you can 628 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: run consecutive terms in Virginia. I believe that's correct. I'm 629 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: not an expert in Virginia governor rules, but I believe 630 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: that that is correct based on to your point, Buck, 631 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: when I was in DC paying attention to Virginia elections 632 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: in the past, I think there's always a non incumbent 633 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 1: election in Virginia because the incumbent cannot run for reelection there, 634 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 1: and so there's always an open election seat in Virginia 635 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: as it pertains to the governor. I think you factor 636 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: that in the analogy that I was I would make 637 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: is one I made with him, and that is for 638 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: any of you out there that are sports fans, and 639 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: I know a lot of you are. That is the 640 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: answer when I asked him right off the top, are 641 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: you interested in I don't know the exact question that 642 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: I phrase, but basically, will you eliminate the idea that 643 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: you're not gonna run in twenty twenty four He gave 644 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: the answer that a smaller school coach gives when he's 645 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,959 Speaker 1: getting ready to take the bigger school job. I've seen 646 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: this for my entire career in sports. Buck, you got 647 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: a big game coming up. Coach has had a good year. 648 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,919 Speaker 1: There's a lot of money out there, there's a lot 649 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 1: of interest. Big state you is circling. They want to 650 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,959 Speaker 1: bring you in as the next coach. What do you say, 651 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: I'm really focused on this job. 652 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 2: I love it. 653 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: Here it's the exact answer he gave. I think he's 654 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: gonna run. I think he's gonna recycle. I think he's 655 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: gonna run this cycle. Look the just put it this way. 656 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 1: Let's say let's say he runs and he's in along 657 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 1: the lines what we've seen from the VEC, the Veck 658 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,800 Speaker 1: is is getting he's getting numbers. He's getting some numbers. 659 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 2: And we had early Yeah, we had early the VEC 660 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 2: people in this audience who were emailing, calling in and saying, look, 661 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 2: I you know, I love Trump, but I also love 662 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 2: the VEC, which was it was interesting, and they were 663 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 2: they they saw this coming early on. And you get 664 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 2: the sense that, you know, even if Trump is the 665 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 2: nominee of the VEK in a in a Trump cabinet, 666 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 2: let's say, feels almost like an inevitability, like that's that's 667 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 2: really I think what a lot of people are seeing. 668 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,720 Speaker 2: If if young Kin were to get in and really 669 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 2: just make the case for future competency as a or 670 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 2: rather for competency and more of a future projection as 671 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,359 Speaker 2: the VP under Trump, that would change things that, you know, 672 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,720 Speaker 2: for the next cycle. You could see how it all 673 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 2: fit in pretty easily to our current Uh if it 674 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,919 Speaker 2: were to go that way, maybe maybe we're getting ahead 675 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 2: of ourselves play, but it could go that way to me. 676 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 1: Him doing the media tour right now, he's flashing the leg, right, 677 00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,399 Speaker 1: flashing the I'm just saying, old school people out there. 678 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: Woman wears the nice dress, she flashes the leg. She's 679 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 1: a little bit interested, maybe a little bit interested in 680 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: the attention. I think what has happened so far is 681 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: there hasn't been a crystallization in his mind of the 682 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 1: number two target, you know, the person who's gonna really 683 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: take on Trump. And I wonder if he thinks he's 684 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,359 Speaker 1: that guy. We'll talk about it a little bit more. 685 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,800 Speaker 1: Take your calls, third hour, roll it in next