Speaker 1: I got a call, like on a Friday afternoon from
Speaker 1: the promoter. It's like, hey, my opener backed out. I'll
Speaker 1: pay you a hundred bucks to come up here. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: who am I opening for a new guy that just
Speaker 1: like moved to Nashville. His name's Luke COLEMs And I
Speaker 1: was like, okay, cool. I didn't know who Luke was
Speaker 1: at the time. Episode four seventy four. It's Drew Parker.
Speaker 1: I like this guy.
Speaker 2: Not that I don't like everybody, but some people you
Speaker 2: just kind of click with and you can just have
Speaker 2: a conversation and it just feels like kind of normal,
Speaker 2: like you could just like two I didn't know him,
Speaker 2: but like two buddies just talking for a while. I
Speaker 2: kind of got this with Drew, and I felt like
Speaker 2: I felt like we could have done like two hours.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like you hang out with them after. Yeah we didn't,
Speaker 1: by the way, No, but I think I could have. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I could have. His instagram is Drew Parker. Plays.
Speaker 2: His full length album, Camouflage Cowboy, came out this summer.
Speaker 2: His single is Love the Leaving, which is climbing. I
Speaker 2: don't know where it is on a chart right now.
Speaker 2: I know that we play it a little bit, and
Speaker 2: I end up telling him in this like, hey, we're
Speaker 2: gonna help you out a little bit because it's a
Speaker 2: good song.
Speaker 1: He's from Georgia. He started singing in church like a
Speaker 1: lot of folks do. He's written big, big, big songs.
Speaker 2: But I'll let you hear the story about that and
Speaker 2: how one of these songs, like major artists wanted to
Speaker 2: cut it and he had to go, no, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: keep this one, which is crazy because if any of
Speaker 2: these major artists cut it, he makes a lot of money.
Speaker 2: He basically gave up money for the chance to possibly
Speaker 2: make some money for himself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a tough call.
Speaker 2: It's a tough call, I know, especially as writers too,
Speaker 2: like his writers he wrote it with, They're.
Speaker 1: Like, no, give it to them. So yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: So I like Drew Parker. Check it out here. He
Speaker 1: is episode four seventy four. Drew.
Speaker 2: I just got a text about fourteen minutes ago. Be
Speaker 2: nice to Drew. He's a bud that's from Gator. Harrison.
Speaker 2: How do you know Gator like typical radio stuff or
Speaker 2: do you guys like have any history of doing anything
Speaker 2: social golf?
Speaker 1: Golf? Yeah, really. Hell, we live both on the same
Speaker 1: side of town, so.
Speaker 2: Oh man, it's forever going. I'll go play golf a
Speaker 2: gator and it's like a fifty minute drive. It's out
Speaker 2: there with any traffic, and.
Speaker 1: I'm farther like I live farther out than that. Do
Speaker 1: you have like do you look like a property guy?
Speaker 1: You have a property? I mean I don't, but I
Speaker 1: there's plenty around me that I hope so big.
Speaker 2: I thought it had to be on a property, Like
Speaker 2: I saw you drive up and I was like, is
Speaker 2: that a truck on top of another truck?
Speaker 1: And it was not. It was just your truck.
Speaker 2: Now, when you buy that truck, do you buy it
Speaker 2: lifted that much already or did you lift it yourself?
Speaker 2: Or is it not lifted at all?
Speaker 1: It's it has like like a one and a half
Speaker 1: inch list.
Speaker 2: You gotta be kidding me, I swear, Okay, how big
Speaker 2: of the tires? Thirty seven minutes tars, Mike, It's a monster, right,
Speaker 2: It's huge. Okay, So what am I not getting? Because
Speaker 2: I don't know anything about cars?
Speaker 1: What I don't know? I'm like big on the it
Speaker 1: looks like a glorified truck. Honestly, it's yeah, but it's huge.
Speaker 1: It is big. Yeah, it's huge. Yeah, you know, might
Speaker 1: have to you know, pull a buddy out of the
Speaker 1: pitch or something. I don't know, a little wench for that.
Speaker 1: But I mean, this is like my dream truck. This
Speaker 1: is like what I like. Well, it's just I mean,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that this is exactly my dream truck
Speaker 1: because they didn't. This truck didn't exist when I when
Speaker 1: you were eleven, right exactly. But it's like now it's
Speaker 1: what I envisioned I would have loved when I was eleven.
Speaker 2: This is that meaning like, you're doing good enough now
Speaker 2: you can just go get whatever truck you want.
Speaker 1: Uh no, this will be.
Speaker 2: This I mean is if I'm asking the question, you
Speaker 2: have to be it's not humble to answer it.
Speaker 1: It is like if that's like I just.
Speaker 2: Bought my freaking dream car. Yeah, the first time, and
Speaker 2: it's awesome and I love it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I couldn't do it again. I couldn't go
Speaker 1: do it again. I couldn't go get another You need to, No,
Speaker 1: I don't. Oh yeah, so yeah this is yeah, this
Speaker 1: is it. That's cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll have it to the world's fall off. Oh
Speaker 2: I'll trade mine in about a year.
Speaker 1: But no, this is yeah yeah, yeah, uh so what
Speaker 1: is Covington, Georgia like very small town suburb of Atlanta.
Speaker 1: It's definitely, you know, it's kind of expanded. Atlanta's kind
Speaker 1: of expanded there. Now it's not the same talent it
Speaker 1: was when I was growing up.
Speaker 2: How suburban? How long does it take to get out
Speaker 2: of Atlanta to a forty five minutes? But yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean it's not the exact same talent it was when
Speaker 2: I was growing up. When I was growing up there
Speaker 2: there was only one high school.
Speaker 1: When I was a kid, An there's like three west
Speaker 1: size was your high school? Six hundred? I have any okay,
Speaker 1: so not big? Mine was.
Speaker 2: We were single A, then went to double A. I
Speaker 2: don't know what the class we would be.
Speaker 1: We were like we were actually four A. In my
Speaker 1: senior year. She played ball, but I was. I played baseball.
Speaker 1: I was the first full graduated class. So my freshman
Speaker 1: year it was a brand new school. Oh dang, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was the first class with her. We had a
Speaker 1: school wasn't ours. We had a school that was brand new.
Speaker 1: It was called Center Point.
Speaker 2: There were a brand new school, but they struggle in
Speaker 2: athletics for a while because they were a brand new
Speaker 2: school and I don't know, just a bunch of random
Speaker 2: kids that went there. They didn't have any history, right
Speaker 2: and any tradition.
Speaker 1: Did you guys have any experience that, Yeah, very much so.
Speaker 1: But my senior year we went to a final four
Speaker 1: in state in baseball and then got molly wopped, just
Speaker 1: destroyed by a team of Atlanta. Did you play any
Speaker 1: like pro ball players that later turned pro? Not that well.
Speaker 1: I played like Jason Hayward's younger brother, but I don't
Speaker 1: think he was like, well, that's funny. I mean, Jason Hayward.
Speaker 2: I'm a big Cups fan, So yeah, Hayward's yeah, big
Speaker 2: part of the reason that we did anything back in
Speaker 2: the day in sixteen.
Speaker 1: So I remember playing his brother. There was some other guy.
Speaker 1: There was a guy that hit an absolute mammoth of
Speaker 1: a home run off of me that went and played somewhere,
Speaker 1: and I think he owes a lot of that to
Speaker 1: me because there were tons of scouts there watching him,
Speaker 1: and I just.
Speaker 2: That's so funny that he said Jason Hayward, And I'm like, wow,
Speaker 2: younger brother, that's funny.
Speaker 1: When did you move to Nashale. Oh what year twenty fifteen,
Speaker 1: September twenty fifteen. I guess he's been here a little
Speaker 1: bit nine years.
Speaker 2: Let's talk music, because I got a lot of stuff
Speaker 2: to talk about. What do you wanna do first? You
Speaker 2: want to do the greatest hits? What do you want
Speaker 2: to do?
Speaker 1: You? This is the greatest hits? Okay, got a.
Speaker 2: Grammy nominee nomination for doing this with Luke Combs. You
Speaker 2: guys met back like Rome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we met in a bar in Rome, Georgia, Georgia.
Speaker 1: Was he playing the bar? He was? I was opening.
Speaker 1: I got a call, like on a Friday afternoon from
Speaker 1: the promoter. It's like, hey, my opener backed out. I'll
Speaker 1: pay you a hundred bucks to come up here. I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, who am I opening for? He was like, well,
Speaker 1: it's this new guy that just like moved to Nashville.
Speaker 1: His name's Luke Combs. And I was like, okay, cool.
Speaker 1: I didn't know who Luke was at the time, but
Speaker 1: we opened that show that night and we just hit
Speaker 1: it off. And he was like, man, I just moved
Speaker 1: to Nashville. You should come up there and let's write songs.
Speaker 1: And I had never written a song before and I was,
Speaker 1: but I was like, well, this seems like my ticket
Speaker 1: to Nashville, because I'd always wanted to go. I was like,
Speaker 1: this seems like my ticket. So I was like absolutely.
Speaker 1: So for the next nine months, I drove back and
Speaker 1: forth from Georgia to Nashville and wrote songs. What was
Speaker 1: that drive? Three hundred miles? Did you have a normal job?
Speaker 1: I did? I have a degree in radiology. Wow. So
Speaker 1: that nine months, I like was sending like resumes to
Speaker 1: try to get a job at a hospital up here,
Speaker 1: and it took nine months, but I finally did. And
Speaker 1: then that's when I moved.
Speaker 2: I think, if I'm doing my research here, you have,
Speaker 2: as far as radiologists go, the biggest truck ever, any
Speaker 2: radiologist ever, largest radiologist truck.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Why did you go into radiology? It was so
Speaker 1: I did like joint enrollment, like my junior senior ye
Speaker 1: of high school, which was like half college half high
Speaker 1: school credits or whatever was it? Because you were so ahead.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's okay, well I really don't remember. I
Speaker 1: think so, but it allowed for me to have this
Speaker 1: opportunity to be able to go, you know, take two
Speaker 1: classes at the college. The local Community College in Covington.
Speaker 1: So when I got out, I had this plan that
Speaker 1: I was going to go play music. Moved to Nashville
Speaker 1: one day, so I like kind of looked into what
Speaker 1: are the credits that I've earned at this point that
Speaker 1: I can get through something quickly? Right when like radiology
Speaker 1: was like one of the ones that popped up. Were
Speaker 1: you interested in that? Did you know really what it was?
Speaker 1: I liked the medical field. I thought it was like
Speaker 1: an easy place to get a job. I mean, my
Speaker 1: whole plan was to wind up here in the music business.
Speaker 1: What was going to get me their quick, quickest and
Speaker 1: to help me pay my rent.
Speaker 2: Only person that's ever come in to said the medical
Speaker 2: industry is what was going to get me to Nashville
Speaker 2: to write song. You're the only person that's ever happened
Speaker 2: probably so so.
Speaker 1: And you did that. You did radiology for a little bit.
Speaker 1: I did so. I got here in twenty fifteen and
Speaker 1: worked at a hospital in Nashville, and I worked there
Speaker 1: until the week I had first number one in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: That's a wild story that's extremely versatile of you can
Speaker 2: you look at my ankle, you well, you don't have
Speaker 2: the equipment oh kind of makes for your ankle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh no, I don't have the equipment.
Speaker 2: But if you did, oh I did, if christ did
Speaker 2: you put the thing on? Where you have to like
Speaker 2: where the did you? You have to run out of
Speaker 2: the room right Like they're like, yeah, you're supposed to.
Speaker 1: But really, I mean, here's the thing. Man, It's like
Speaker 1: takes too much. Like really you're supposed to go get help,
Speaker 1: like where the thing? But man, when you're like patients
Speaker 1: are like coming in and out like a lots of fast,
Speaker 1: you're gonna get backed up. You're just kind of like,
Speaker 1: all right, well this will be quicker if I just
Speaker 1: don't go ask for helping take the risk of ready. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but my kids all you know, the two kids I
Speaker 1: have have all their fingers and toes. So I think
Speaker 1: we've made it out alive. Talk to me.
Speaker 2: So you're in Rome, Georgia with Luke Combs. How many
Speaker 2: people do you think are at the show that night?
Speaker 1: I've always said that there was sixty people at the
Speaker 1: show that night. I've been told that that is false,
Speaker 1: but I'm that's close. Were you the only support? Was
Speaker 1: it you? Then, Luke? No? There was another guy, h
Speaker 1: Jacob Bryant and do you meet Luke pre or post
Speaker 1: pre pre show? And then we hung out post show
Speaker 1: and we just hit it off. I mean we just
Speaker 1: had the same interest. It was like kind of like sports,
Speaker 1: like we just found you know, we just liked all
Speaker 1: the same things.
Speaker 2: And so he says, hey, here's my information, and like
Speaker 2: it's not like he was killing it right he was.
Speaker 1: He was far from finger quotes Luke Comb's oh not
Speaker 1: even close.
Speaker 2: But what was he able to lend you as far
Speaker 2: as like advice or he already lived here, so you
Speaker 2: had like a buddy or someone you could like rely
Speaker 2: on to be here?
Speaker 1: Like what was that? Well? I just knew that there
Speaker 1: was some confidence there that I couldn't. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: also like you hear somebody that you're like a massive
Speaker 1: fan of and you're like, okay, that guy's good, and
Speaker 1: the person that you think is good is telling you
Speaker 1: you're good. So you're like, okay, well there's a little
Speaker 1: validation there. He respected your music as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty cool because even before he blew up,
Speaker 2: you would hear him sing and you would go, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's really good.
Speaker 1: I remember.
Speaker 2: But it was like the first time that I heard
Speaker 2: him sing. It was like, again, this is before he
Speaker 2: even had an hit song. He was in studio and
Speaker 2: he sings so violently, but he's a pure singer. At
Speaker 2: the same time, he's incredible. It's one of those rare
Speaker 2: where someone can go extremely hard. It's like oh, but
Speaker 2: also like what do you want him to sing?
Speaker 1: Like? It doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he doesn't get the credit for being like a
Speaker 2: pure vocalist because of how aggressive he sings, and also
Speaker 2: just because he looks like a normal dude. But I
Speaker 2: remember thinking that and if he thought I was good,
Speaker 2: which he did not think I was a good singer,
Speaker 2: so I don't know I have the same then I
Speaker 2: think that would give me confidence.
Speaker 1: And you felt that way about yourself, Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: it did. And I knew that he, you know, had
Speaker 1: offered the invite to come to Nashville to write songs.
Speaker 1: I knew that that's kind of not an inn and
Speaker 1: tell him, but like, that's kind of where you start,
Speaker 1: like when you get to hear right songs. So here's
Speaker 1: a guy that lives in Nashville doing what I want
Speaker 1: to do, who is inviting me to write songs, and
Speaker 1: so I take that opportunity. What was home like for
Speaker 1: you growing up? Your parents? Were they together? They? Yep,
Speaker 1: very supportive, very involved. I mean so music for me
Speaker 1: started when I was like ten, singing in church and
Speaker 1: like traveling all over the Southeast. My dad would get
Speaker 1: off work on Friday and we'd pack my mom's expedition
Speaker 1: with like sound equipment and we'd go sing at a
Speaker 1: church or I would go sing at a church a
Speaker 1: family and it was just me.
Speaker 2: Oh so they were just being supportive. Yeah, so how
Speaker 2: at ten? Why at ten did you want to start
Speaker 2: singing in church? Did you have like friends that sang,
Speaker 2: a youth director that sang? Like how did you get
Speaker 2: involved there?
Speaker 1: There was this guy in my church that sang and
Speaker 1: he would literally go sit up set up sound equipment
Speaker 1: in the Arby's parking lot and sing on like Friday nights.
Speaker 1: And my parents would go up there and we'd like
Speaker 1: spend Friday nights in the Arby's parking lot watching this
Speaker 1: guy sing. And so he like introduced me to the
Speaker 1: stage there. And so it's just like thing that developed
Speaker 1: and just one thing led to another, and my parents,
Speaker 1: you know, always I wouldn't say they pushed me to
Speaker 1: do it. But they saw that, you know, it was
Speaker 1: something I wanted to do, and they whatever it took
Speaker 1: for me to be able to do that super encouraging.
Speaker 1: Oh very are they so proud of you now? I'd
Speaker 1: like to think so. Yeah, I think so because I.
Speaker 2: Think that would be pretty cool to have somebody that
Speaker 2: you know and love kind of risk it.
Speaker 1: All.
Speaker 2: This is a wild industry where almost nobody makes it,
Speaker 2: and if you do make it, you know, making it
Speaker 2: is if you actually make its just paying your bills
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: That's been my goal, that's all. That's the only thing
Speaker 1: that's ever been My goal is to provide for my
Speaker 1: family doing what I love. So whatever that meant.
Speaker 2: Anybody that can do an art they love and support
Speaker 2: themselves like to me, that's making it.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 2: And the fact that you've been able to because you
Speaker 2: said you hadn't written you hadn't really written in these songs, right,
Speaker 2: not really? And again we're doing the greatest hits before
Speaker 2: we get to specific stuff about you.
Speaker 1: But it's like.
Speaker 2: All the songs that you now have written, you know,
Speaker 2: with and for Luke, were you sitting in rooms with
Speaker 2: people that had written the way Nashville writes or were.
Speaker 1: Just you and Luke writing and he was learning. How
Speaker 1: it was like it was me and Luke and other
Speaker 1: folks that he had met the same way he had
Speaker 1: met me in a sense. I mean we were just
Speaker 1: learning together really, and we were just writing songs that
Speaker 1: we would want to listen to. You know. It wasn't
Speaker 1: We never never felt like we were chasing anything, which
Speaker 1: is interesting.
Speaker 2: But do you remember like learning the formula meaning Okay,
Speaker 2: we're gonna we're gonna sit down, and this is very concept.
Speaker 2: It's a very concept first town more so than a
Speaker 2: melody town, right, and we're gonna go uh verse chorus,
Speaker 2: uh bridge or verse bridge core, whatever the case, and going, oh,
Speaker 2: this kind of makes sense. Now there's a formula. I
Speaker 2: never really looked at song. Its like a formula, like
Speaker 2: did you learn that when you hear or were you
Speaker 2: just listening to enough song to sing enough songs that
Speaker 2: you kind of understood that anyway, even before you you
Speaker 2: wrote anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think just by listening to other songs and
Speaker 1: kind of just learning that way. But there's so many
Speaker 1: different it was. I was always like a stickler on
Speaker 1: like rhymes and like you know, finding them the right
Speaker 1: place to land and like the phrasing of the thing.
Speaker 1: But I think that was, you know, from the music
Speaker 1: that I grew.
Speaker 2: Up on, Like prechorses were always trippy to me, because
Speaker 2: I never even thought of such a thing, right, the
Speaker 2: new choruses and I knew that.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, pre chorus. Pre chorus is just
Speaker 1: the thing that helps you like the end of your
Speaker 1: verse doesn't quite carry you into the chorus. So you're
Speaker 1: just like, well, we need to make something up that
Speaker 1: gets us to the chorus. Yeah, but we can repeat that.
Speaker 2: People will also sing, did you let's take Luke out
Speaker 2: of this rite with anybody where you're like, holy crap.
Speaker 1: I think I just took a lesson in writing early on.
Speaker 1: Like Ben Hayslip, Yeah, he was one of the guys
Speaker 1: that wrote with me early on. There was a few,
Speaker 1: but I mean for the most part, it was just
Speaker 1: people that I was meeting.
Speaker 2: You go into the song rounds and you know, I
Speaker 2: feel like I've been fortunate in my time here. Like
Speaker 2: so we launched, we semi launched like a secret project.
Speaker 2: And what do I know about songwriting? Nothing except for
Speaker 2: I wrote comedy songs right, very different. I can write verse, chorus,
Speaker 2: bridge chorus, chorus, chorus, chorus, as long as it's funny,
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter, and as long as it grows. But me,
Speaker 2: Ross Kapperman, Nicole Gallian we got together and we're like,
Speaker 2: we're going to create this cartoon kind of like the
Speaker 2: Mike who is a feel good the Gorillas, the Gorillas,
Speaker 2: kind of like kind of the Gorilla. Actually, what it
Speaker 2: happened was I'd seen a thing in like sixty minutes.
Speaker 1: We're in Japan. They have a hologram.
Speaker 2: It does like ten to at once, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is how we make money.
Speaker 1: Holy cas.
Speaker 2: So I went to Ross and I was like, well,
Speaker 2: let's let's write a bunch of songs. Not really knowing
Speaker 2: anything other than writing comedy songs. I was like, let's
Speaker 2: we're gonna build this hologram and it's going to open
Speaker 2: for everybody at once, and we're gonna sit home account
Speaker 2: our money.
Speaker 1: That's brilliant, and so he was like, let's go.
Speaker 2: And so we got in a call and we went
Speaker 2: and wrote every week everywhere, and I remember just going, oh,
Speaker 2: I had no idea, Like I thought I.
Speaker 1: Had an idea, and I knew music. I knew how
Speaker 1: to write that.
Speaker 2: But just like the precision of like really talented songaters
Speaker 2: and you're one of those now. But when I was
Speaker 2: newly kind of adopted into let's write this stuff, I
Speaker 2: was just like, oh, I had no idea you could
Speaker 2: do so many things with songs and concepts and turning
Speaker 2: meanings around and flipping things like I got a big lesson, And.
Speaker 1: I don't know where that came from for me, Like
Speaker 1: that's kind of always been like what fires me up
Speaker 1: is like trying to find an idea that can be flipped.
Speaker 1: You know. Now we get in rooms and we're like, well,
Speaker 1: let's not do the We don't there's no reason for
Speaker 1: us to do the trick, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like make it mean something else, but saying the same
Speaker 1: thing the whole time. But that's fun to me. That's
Speaker 1: like a you know, it's like a puzzle, putting a
Speaker 1: puzzle together in more ways than ones. So but I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't. I think it just honestly learning. We were
Speaker 1: all learning together.
Speaker 2: To be honest with you, that's fine because again there's
Speaker 2: not a lot of pressure there. There was none that
Speaker 2: was learning, you know, there was we didn't have publishing deals.
Speaker 2: I met a guy there was a guy he was
Speaker 2: teaching like a music class at Uga and Athens.
Speaker 1: I didn't go there, but I didn't. I grew up
Speaker 1: not far from there. But he was a songwriter, Like
Speaker 1: he wrote some Reeven McIntyre hits back in the day,
Speaker 1: and I cold like emailed him one day and I
Speaker 1: was like, hey, man, I'm a new songwriter, like looking
Speaker 1: for advice, honestly, and I remember him specifically saying, find
Speaker 1: someone that you believe in and write as many songs
Speaker 1: as you can with them. What I didn't realize is
Speaker 1: I was already doing that with Luke. And I mean
Speaker 1: it wasn't until years later that I kind of realized
Speaker 1: that the device he had given me something that I
Speaker 1: was already doing. That's super Bowl. He responded like that, though,
Speaker 1: yeah it was. I mean what incredible advice. I mean
Speaker 1: it's advice that I give today, Like, find somebody you
Speaker 1: would bet everything on and just go write a bunch
Speaker 1: of songs with them.
Speaker 2: I wonder your direction because you move here obviously you're
Speaker 2: a singer and your writing and you're an artist, and
Speaker 2: you're in the Luke camp before it's officially been a camp,
Speaker 2: Like it's just a couple of tenths before it turned
Speaker 2: into a full fledged camp because Luke's success took off.
Speaker 2: Were you like, all right, we're just gonna be the
Speaker 2: engine on this thing for a little bit. Yeah, for sure,
Speaker 2: more so than I'm gonna take and go. Because it
Speaker 2: is a grind to be an artist, a new artist,
Speaker 2: because you have to do radio tour, you have to
Speaker 2: You've got to be gone a lot, making no money.
Speaker 2: But now the group that you had cultivated with like
Speaker 2: minded people, they're all enjoyed writing together. That started to hit,
Speaker 2: That started to hit. Did you make a conscious decision
Speaker 2: of all right, I'm still gonna play, but I can't
Speaker 2: really go and pursue this full artist thing because I
Speaker 2: really believe what we're doing now and I want to
Speaker 2: get out of it what I can.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was definitely part of it, But it was
Speaker 1: also just I was still learning and preparing myself for
Speaker 1: who exactly I wanted to be as an artist. And
Speaker 1: I mean that being an artist is exactly what I
Speaker 1: moved here for. I wanted to sing, and I wanted
Speaker 1: to play shows, and I wanted to be an artist.
Speaker 1: Songwriting was like a gift that I discovered God and
Speaker 1: given me, like kind of after I got here. It
Speaker 1: just kind of happened, right, And but once the started
Speaker 1: having cuts and that kind of thing, it's you kind
Speaker 1: of go through your head of like, okay, now, which
Speaker 1: do I really want this thing? Or is this good enough?
Speaker 1: And ultimately I decided that how bad I wanted to
Speaker 1: be an artist. And but I still think about those moments,
Speaker 1: and there's a pivotal moments of like holding onto a
Speaker 1: song or you know, letting a song go. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. It was a fun time and still is
Speaker 1: a fun time to be in in that the songwriting
Speaker 1: process writing songs for other folks too. You mostly write
Speaker 1: for yourself now, no really, I mean when I was
Speaker 1: working on this record, I mean I was writing pretty
Speaker 1: hard for myself. But that was the first time I'd
Speaker 1: ever really written for myself, even like all the EPs
Speaker 1: that I'd put out, that was just me writing songs,
Speaker 1: just trying to write a good song, and if it
Speaker 1: wound up with somebody, that was fine, and if it didn't,
Speaker 1: it was you know, I's gonna be able to record it.
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Speaker 2: A couple of things that stand out to me from
Speaker 2: what you just said, the maturity to go I'm still
Speaker 2: finding myself as an artist because I did not have
Speaker 2: never had that. I'm just like, I know who I am.
Speaker 2: I'm about to find it who I am. I'm lowering
Speaker 2: my head and going full speed speed into everything. And
Speaker 2: what you just said, you were like, I'm still kind
Speaker 2: of finding myself as an artist. So I was here
Speaker 2: and you were investing time in learning how to write,
Speaker 2: like that feels pretty mature for somebody that was in
Speaker 2: their twenties, because I thought added all figured out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I have my wife to think for
Speaker 1: a lot of that. I mean, I've been married pretty
Speaker 1: much ever since I got to town, so I didn't
Speaker 1: have anything that I had to say. I mean, I
Speaker 1: really didn't, and I was just kind of preparing myself
Speaker 1: for those moments and making sure that that's exactly what
Speaker 1: I wanted to do. And I mean it kind of
Speaker 1: goes back to I wanted to be able to provide
Speaker 1: for my family. Well, when you're getting cuts for other
Speaker 1: artists and getting radio singles, I mean it's easy to go, Okay,
Speaker 1: well I'm providing for my family doing this. But now
Speaker 1: is it what I want to do? And you know,
Speaker 1: having the success as a songwriter kind of freed up
Speaker 1: being able to go not make any money being an artist.
Speaker 2: When you quit your job in the hospital, what did
Speaker 2: you need to happen and what did happen for you
Speaker 2: to be able to do that?
Speaker 1: So it was I made a deal with the boss
Speaker 1: at the hospital that if I ever got a number
Speaker 1: one song, that I would come work one more shift
Speaker 1: and then I'd be done. That's an awesome deal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm telling you this right now. Her name is
Speaker 1: Tracy Lienberger, the greatest boss that has ever walked the
Speaker 1: face of the earth. Anytime I needed off to go
Speaker 1: play a show for a hundred bucks, she would let me.
Speaker 1: I mean it was she was the best. So I'd
Speaker 1: made this deal with her. March twenty second of twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: I got my first number one homemade by Jacoben. I
Speaker 1: called my boss. I said, hey, I'll be there tomorrow,
Speaker 1: but that's gonna be it. I got my first number one.
Speaker 1: She was like, congratulations, she's tracking it with you by
Speaker 1: an each other. Yeah she knew, I mean yeah, and
Speaker 1: the whole I mean, even the folks I worked with
Speaker 1: were like cheered me on, you know, and so I
Speaker 1: called her. I'm like, hey, I'll be there tomorrow and
Speaker 1: that's let's gonna be it for me. And worked like
Speaker 1: second shift, so I would go in at like from
Speaker 1: three pm to eleven. And so that day, Monday, I'm
Speaker 1: getting ready to go work my last shift of the hospital.
Speaker 1: I'm in my bedroom putting scrubs on. By the way,
Speaker 1: this is March of twenty twenty. I mean, working in
Speaker 1: the medical field was chaos and I'm putting my scrubs on.
Speaker 1: My wife walks in the bedroom and tells me that
Speaker 1: she is going into labor. So I had to call
Speaker 1: my boss and say, actually, I am on my way
Speaker 1: to the hospital, but it's not to work. And dude,
Speaker 1: the boss met me at my car, helped me and
Speaker 1: my wife get into the hospital. And I never I
Speaker 1: still owe her technically that last shift. But that's a
Speaker 1: great story.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Homemade I changed Jake's life.
Speaker 1: It really did change mind too.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's such a great song and I can speak
Speaker 2: to it. I'm we're close to that family, and Jake
Speaker 2: had a ton of success, and I think Jake was
Speaker 2: then trying to find himself as an artist. He'd That
Speaker 2: song kind of put him back on in a major way.
Speaker 2: And I remember the first time that he played it,
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, God, dang, and.
Speaker 1: That it's a trick. You did the trick in it too.
Speaker 1: You don't talk about it.
Speaker 2: It's homemade, but homemade and it was such a big
Speaker 2: song for his career still is.
Speaker 1: But I guess.
Speaker 2: I mean, I've never spoken to you about that, So
Speaker 2: tell me the story about that song, if there is one.
Speaker 2: Who was it a note in a phone that somebody
Speaker 2: brought in one of these like this is so good?
Speaker 2: Or was it just one that just you just sent
Speaker 2: off to the publisher like who knows?
Speaker 1: Yeah. I had Jared Mullins and Ben Goldsmith on my
Speaker 1: calendar that day and I had never written with either
Speaker 1: of them, And so we get there and Jared's like, hey,
Speaker 1: I got this idea called homemade, and I mean just
Speaker 1: immediately I was like, oh, thank you Jesus, Like this
Speaker 1: is I mean, I think every good song starts with
Speaker 1: a great idea. And I immediately knew. And I was like,
Speaker 1: homemade me love a dirt road, and he was like yes,
Speaker 1: And so then I knew that we were on the
Speaker 1: same page about what this idea was supposed to be.
Speaker 1: So we start working on it. We write like a
Speaker 1: verse and a chorus, and if you listen to that course,
Speaker 1: it says homemade fifty billion times in it. So getting
Speaker 1: those to like land in the pocket in the right
Speaker 1: place was like kind of hard and like tripping us
Speaker 1: up a little bit. And we had the whole lyrics,
Speaker 1: the melody was pretty much mapped out, but it wasn't
Speaker 1: like nailed, and we were like struggling pretty good on it,
Speaker 1: and Jared Mullins goes, hey, I was with Bobby Pinson
Speaker 1: last night. What if I call him to come help us?
Speaker 1: And I was like, I mean, I'm a new writer,
Speaker 1: and tell him pretty much. And I'm like, Bobby Penson, Yeah,
Speaker 1: get him over here. I've never written with him, but
Speaker 1: obviously a hero writer of mine, you know, yes, funny guy.
Speaker 1: So he gets he was actually bush hogging. He was like,
Speaker 1: send me the send me the work tape. So Jared
Speaker 1: sent him the work tape of what we had versus chorus.
Speaker 1: He called Jared back and said I'm on my way,
Speaker 1: and he got there and we finished it. It was
Speaker 1: a crazy moment in my personal life with my wife.
Speaker 1: I was there. I had never written a song. I
Speaker 1: mean usually it's like, you know, maybe on average, I
Speaker 1: would say three hours to write a song. Well, this
Speaker 1: started at like maybe ten or eleven AM. And at
Speaker 1: nine pm we were still there and my wife's like,
Speaker 1: where you at. I'm like writing. She's like writing, you
Speaker 1: don't ever write this song. I was like, I'm writing,
Speaker 1: I'm writing a hit song. And so we left that
Speaker 1: night with a demo and the full song done, and
Speaker 1: I think it went on hold that night, but not
Speaker 1: with Jake, and it was kind of a crazy it
Speaker 1: like got passed around town and can you can you
Speaker 1: say who? Chris Young? I think was the first guy.
Speaker 2: He would have sounded a good singing Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean I was excited. Yeah. And then Jake was
Speaker 1: like heard it, found out about it, and he was like,
Speaker 1: I will cut this tomorrow if I can have it,
Speaker 1: and he pretty much did. You wrote for eleven twelve hours.
Speaker 2: Nineteen eleven twelve hours, you're right, and mostly it's three
Speaker 2: four hours.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Were you grinding away at it because you believed it
Speaker 2: so much? Or were you grinding away at it because
Speaker 2: you wanted to finish it? And it was there a
Speaker 2: time when you ever, because I'll get especially writing.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what I'm writing.
Speaker 2: If I'm minuted enough, I start to lose what I've lost,
Speaker 2: if it even feels good anymore, and I've got to go.
Speaker 2: I just have to believe my instincts at the beginning
Speaker 2: of this and finish it, even though I don't even
Speaker 2: understand why.
Speaker 1: I do that a lot, and that's you know, that's
Speaker 1: a tough thing. This was different. I knew that this was.
Speaker 1: I never had a hit, so I guess I didn't know,
Speaker 1: but it just this had all the right pieces. To me.
Speaker 1: The melody felt like a hit, and.
Speaker 2: The guys felt that way too, or they wouldn't have
Speaker 2: said for sure the whole day, and I wouldn't the
Speaker 2: whole time.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like we were writing the song for nine
Speaker 1: or ten hours. We left with a demo and we
Speaker 1: were like, we perfected that demo that we sent to
Speaker 1: passed around, you know, So you know, I had sang
Speaker 1: the whole song. We had played all the guitar parts
Speaker 1: for it, done all like the cool background things, so
Speaker 1: like part of it was like us doing that part
Speaker 1: of it too.
Speaker 2: So you spent all day doing that when you could
Speaker 2: have done it four different days.
Speaker 1: We could have come back the next week and sure
Speaker 1: and done the demo, but we were like, this has
Speaker 1: to be somebody needs this right now. You had that
Speaker 1: feeling since it's just like, yeah, I have with a
Speaker 1: song that's already out, with a song that I just
Speaker 1: recorded that went on it. It's a song called Love
Speaker 1: the Leaving, which that's like, that's like your career song,
Speaker 1: you think it is. I think, so that's what I
Speaker 1: read about you. Well, what so my record was done,
Speaker 1: no room for any more songs. I wrote Love the Leaving.
Speaker 1: My record's done. So as a songwriter, I start pitching around.
Speaker 1: It goes hol on hold within like two hours with
Speaker 1: three different artists.
Speaker 2: How does that how to three artists? Because there's no
Speaker 2: communication that somebody's put it on hold?
Speaker 1: Pretty much it happens. I mean, dude, it happened so fast.
Speaker 1: Can you say who?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't mind. Uh Nate Smith, Luke Holmes, and
Speaker 1: Morgan Wallen. Oh my god, that was my reaction.
Speaker 2: Like you're talking about first Luke and Morgan right tier
Speaker 2: one And Nate Smith is on such a run.
Speaker 1: This was like the week after he's coming off like
Speaker 1: ten week number one, So all three of those put
Speaker 1: it on hold yeah, and and I was thrilled to death.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh man, I did it that. We
Speaker 1: did it again. I'm like talking to my co writers
Speaker 1: like cause you don't, I mean, because that's get to
Speaker 1: do it again. Also listen, that's your co writers are
Speaker 1: like we got three, I mean we were we were
Speaker 1: a money moon. This felt like a guaranteed it. Okay,
Speaker 1: so how did it? How did How did I get
Speaker 1: back to you? I had a meeting with my label
Speaker 1: and I don't even really know why, but I played
Speaker 1: them the song and I was like, but I can't
Speaker 1: record it. It's one of these guys is going to record it.
Speaker 1: And the head of my label is like, you have
Speaker 1: to record this. This is a career song. This is
Speaker 1: the one. And I was like, man, who said that.
Speaker 1: Chris Lacey, she's great, incredible. I mean, I needed somebody
Speaker 1: to convince me that.
Speaker 2: I just canceled lunch with her like two weeks ago
Speaker 2: because I had freaking sinus infection and I don't have lunch
Speaker 2: with anybody.
Speaker 1: I don't even like lunch. I don't even like I
Speaker 1: don't even like food.
Speaker 2: With another human, like my food by myself and I
Speaker 2: like enjoy Chris so much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's great, She's great, great. I mean she she
Speaker 1: and she talked through the whole thing with me. She
Speaker 1: was like why not And it goes back to the
Speaker 1: whole thing I want to provide for my family, and
Speaker 1: I'm like going through my head with her, like I've
Speaker 1: got to go tell my wife that one of these
Speaker 1: three biggest artists is not going to record it because
Speaker 1: I'm going to record it. I was like, I'm the unproven,
Speaker 1: they're the proven. I've also got to go tell two
Speaker 1: songwriters who were over the moon about the three biggest artists.
Speaker 1: That would be what I would think would be difficult
Speaker 1: because I didn't know how to tell them because they're thinking, wow,
Speaker 1: look at these three guys.
Speaker 2: They were going to cut our song. We just wrote it,
Speaker 2: and you're going to go to them and go, no,
Speaker 2: I'm going to cut it now, dude. I was terrified.
Speaker 1: So, I mean, me and her talking to this whole thing,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I need the weekend to think
Speaker 1: about this, Like I really did. I knew it was
Speaker 1: a hit song, and I texted Luke and I was like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: I need to like talk to you about something like,
Speaker 1: I know you love this song and I would love
Speaker 1: for you to record it, and I think you would
Speaker 1: make it a mega hit. But do you think I'd
Speaker 1: be crazy for me recording And he was like, dude,
Speaker 1: I don't know why the heck you weren't going to
Speaker 1: record it to begin with. And I mean we had
Speaker 1: a long conversation. He's like, man, the artist thing, it's
Speaker 1: a fleeting thing. You gotta grab it while you can,
Speaker 1: like and with this song, like you have to do that.
Speaker 1: So like that helped me talking to my wife about it.
Speaker 1: I mean, it helped me. It's cool that he's a
Speaker 1: friend too, not just someone who has your song on
Speaker 1: hold that's a star, Oh no, no, yeah, it's like that's
Speaker 1: a cool thing, yeah, because.
Speaker 2: Otherwise, let's say it's Jimmy Johnston who has your song
Speaker 2: is a big and you're like, I want to like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I think it's wise to let
Speaker 2: the star have it because he's not your friend for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's really cool that Luke does that as a friend. Yep,
Speaker 2: he still got two to go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And and he was like, I mean, he was like, man,
Speaker 1: we're we're gonna write plenty of some more songs like
Speaker 1: but yeah, then I had to call my co writers,
Speaker 1: And I can't tell you how great these two guys are,
Speaker 1: Lindsay Rhymes and Matt Rodgers. They couldn't have been more
Speaker 1: gracious to say, man, yeah, I mean they both literally said, man,
Speaker 1: it would be awesome to have a hit song. I
Speaker 1: mean they have. One of them has a hit with
Speaker 1: Nate Smith. They both have other hits. You know, neither
Speaker 1: one of them I've ever had a cut with Morgan
Speaker 1: or Luke, So like they were looking forward to that.
Speaker 1: They were like, yeah, man, we'd love to have that,
Speaker 1: but what happened in that room that day happened with us,
Speaker 1: And like, I don't think there could be a bigger
Speaker 1: torch bear for the song than you, and they like
Speaker 1: mint it and so like that really helped a lot
Speaker 1: to know that they were like supportive of this decision,
Speaker 1: because I don't know that if I was on the
Speaker 1: flip side, it would be hard for me if I
Speaker 1: was just songwriter in the in the place. So I
Speaker 1: can't say enough good things about those guys.
Speaker 2: Also, your boss of the hospital's pretty freaking awesome. I
Speaker 2: can't really shake that either. The best it's like I
Speaker 2: quit just kidding here. I am, but I can't pick
Speaker 2: up a shift Camouflage Cowboy that you know, it's the
Speaker 2: full length album. You're on Camouflage now, Yeah, how much
Speaker 2: your wardrobe BSEd Camouflage.
Speaker 1: It's a good bit. It's a good bit. It's it's
Speaker 1: more of a it's a talking point for me at
Speaker 1: this point, Like it was always a kind of something
Speaker 1: I know, war but you know, I wrote a song
Speaker 1: by myself, the title track for this record, called Camouflage Cowboy.
Speaker 1: It's like the first time that I've ever even like that.
Speaker 1: I played this song for my wife and she's like,
Speaker 1: what is this about. I was like, well, when you
Speaker 1: talk about some stuff, and I mean, it's the most
Speaker 1: vulnerable I've ever been in a song, Like, you know,
Speaker 1: just the struggle of leaving to go on the road
Speaker 1: and coming back home and being strong for your family
Speaker 1: and you know you're trying to provide for them, and
Speaker 1: you know you got to tell them by because you're
Speaker 1: doing the right thing by providing for them, but you're
Speaker 1: also leaving them at the same time. Like the weight
Speaker 1: that that carries of like I feel like I'm doing
Speaker 1: the right thing, but I'm also doing the wrong thame
Speaker 1: because I'm leaving them. And when you're you know, your
Speaker 1: daughter's like crying because you're getting on a bus. It's like,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the part you know, nobody talks about
Speaker 1: or tells you about when you sign up for this,
Speaker 1: you know. And so that was kind of what I
Speaker 1: was writing it when I was writing about this song.
Speaker 2: There's a him at the very last track, one of
Speaker 2: the last tracks, like maybe last track, yeah, last track,
Speaker 2: traditional Ham. Other than that, when I was looking at
Speaker 2: the notes, I think, did you write all but one
Speaker 2: of the songs too?
Speaker 1: I didn't write. I always like it when someone.
Speaker 2: Who is a really great songwriter takes a couple of
Speaker 2: cuts that they didn't write, Like, I feel like that
Speaker 2: is so respectful to the songwriting community. Can also understand
Speaker 2: when someone goes, I want to write all my own songs.
Speaker 1: Oh for sure, both those.
Speaker 2: But I always there's like a little bit of me like,
Speaker 2: really appreciate somebody that is a really successful songwriter who
Speaker 2: finds a song they like that represents them that they
Speaker 2: didn't write.
Speaker 1: And I love this. I'm gonna put it on my Yeah.
Speaker 1: I've never I've never truly like cared whether I wrote
Speaker 1: my own songs or not. I mean, if I think
Speaker 1: if I say something that I want to say good enough,
Speaker 1: then I'll record it. But if something, if somebody else
Speaker 1: wrote a song said it better than I could say it,
Speaker 1: I have no problem doing that.
Speaker 2: One of these songs speak for you as good as
Speaker 2: you could have spoken for yourself once that you didn't write.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, look don't live around here. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: just something I would like say. I remember, like growing up,
Speaker 1: my mom was like if she ever heard me, like
Speaker 1: say something about being lucky, She's like, son, we're not lucky,
Speaker 1: we're blessed. And I was like true. And when I
Speaker 1: heard the song, I was like I could just hear
Speaker 1: my mom like just saying that, and so it was
Speaker 1: you know, that was something that I was like, man, dad,
Speaker 1: gum it. It's one of those ideas I wish I
Speaker 1: had to come up with.
Speaker 2: You know, if I watch a comedian it's really good
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh my god, I felt that it's
Speaker 2: just not how to say it like that right.
Speaker 1: One of the but I can't, I think, is I
Speaker 1: can't steal their joke.
Speaker 2: I'd love to, but it's like yeah, It's like sometimes
Speaker 2: somebody says something that you've been thinking that you just
Speaker 2: haven't been able to formulate in the.
Speaker 1: Exact and it's like, oh, that's it. That's super cool.
Speaker 2: Again, so much respect for a songwriter that goes that
Speaker 2: song speaks for me. I don't know, it doesn't need
Speaker 2: to be a song written by me. Yeah, that's really cool.
Speaker 1: With your record? Now, Mike, where is this? Where's your song?
Speaker 1: You know where it is? Now? Is it? Is it
Speaker 1: on the chart? I mean it's like it's new, brand new.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's like seventy so but like how many
Speaker 2: how many weeks has it officially been? Isn't even being
Speaker 2: really worked yet? And I'm not in the music part
Speaker 2: of this world, so I'd have to be told. I
Speaker 2: would like, how are they feeling about it on that side?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean it's just everything's slow, is you know
Speaker 1: what I'm being told? You know, once we get through summer,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, I do know that, Like there are
Speaker 1: some places that it's researching well already, So like I
Speaker 1: feel like once it gets to the place where everybody
Speaker 1: starts for searching it, that's at least this is what
Speaker 1: I'm being told.
Speaker 2: What do you mean to do because I think it's
Speaker 2: a great song. The problem that I get into there
Speaker 2: gets to be a point. And I don't really have
Speaker 2: any rules. I don't program music, but sometimes I just
Speaker 2: like a song and'll be like, I'm just gonna play
Speaker 2: it for a while, and I've had some decent success.
Speaker 2: But the where the issue for me gets when someone
Speaker 2: gets up to about forty thirty if I play it
Speaker 2: like on my radio show. And I haven't been in
Speaker 2: the music world for a bit, but I was like
Speaker 2: music director years ago, and like, I understand how the
Speaker 2: crap works, and trust me, it's a crap, not music.
Speaker 2: Just have the system, right, Yeah, If I play the song,
Speaker 2: it freaking spikes the crap out of it, and the
Speaker 2: next week if it doesn't meet that spike, everyone's like,
Speaker 2: oh god, the arrows down. So it puts me in
Speaker 2: this precarious situation sometimes because there are things that I
Speaker 2: really like and like to support, which is why I'm
Speaker 2: glad you're here, because I like the song a lots
Speaker 2: and I'm happy I like play it a little bit,
Speaker 2: but I never want to get to the point where
Speaker 2: it's like arrow up, arrow down.
Speaker 1: I don't know, what do you mean? To do you listen, dude,
Speaker 1: the fact that you're like cognizant of this and like
Speaker 1: and know that, like what that means for us, even
Speaker 1: when you do like a song, but you're still like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I love this and I won't I don't want
Speaker 1: to hurt anyone percent. Bye.
Speaker 2: And that's like being a supporter because at times with
Speaker 2: the I will use the words and rely true the
Speaker 2: power that I have.
Speaker 1: Occasionally that can happen. Yeah right, yeah, So like what
Speaker 1: do you want because they're not you're really going to
Speaker 1: look at arrow is at seventy? Right?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: Right? Yeah, so I would like to play it a
Speaker 1: little bit? Would you like me to play it a
Speaker 1: little bit? Yeah? Okay, I mean yeah. And I think
Speaker 1: the reason that I say that is because I just
Speaker 1: want people to hear it.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's because I think if people hear it, I
Speaker 2: think people should hear it too.
Speaker 1: But I never want to be like, oh, I guess
Speaker 1: so you screwed today. I'm like, dude, that wouldn't you
Speaker 1: wouldn't that would I would never think that. And it's
Speaker 1: also not thirties, And when it gets there.
Speaker 2: It gets to be different, right because then everyone's looking
Speaker 2: at arrows on charts, and if it's not trending upward,
Speaker 2: then people are looking for reasons to bail out of it.
Speaker 1: To have your parents got to come watch you play
Speaker 1: with Luke on the stadium. Yeah they've they've seen me
Speaker 1: a few times in a state, like in this old
Speaker 1: Stadium tour. Yeah, they came to Jacksonville, I think this year.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, I mean, I can't say enough
Speaker 1: about them. I mean, if I play at the grand
Speaker 1: Ole operatly, no matter what's going on, they are there.
Speaker 1: They haven't missed and like growing up, they didn't miss
Speaker 1: a single show. And I think the hard part for
Speaker 1: them was like when they got to where they couldn't
Speaker 1: go to every show. I don't think that like kind
Speaker 1: of like bothered them a little bit. So anytime I
Speaker 1: play the grand Ole Oppery, they have not missed a
Speaker 1: single one of those. Even when I'm like like, y'all
Speaker 1: got stuff going on, you know what I mean, Like, uh,
Speaker 1: me and my wife we have a newborn month old
Speaker 1: baby at home, and came up for that. And then
Speaker 1: the very next Saturday, I was playing at the ground
Speaker 1: Operay and they came back up really and I was like, dang,
Speaker 1: drive it. Yeah, that's that's labor.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, uh so, I got a couple of thoughts.
Speaker 2: One, let's just let's put it in the National count down,
Speaker 2: like made a note already, Okay, so we're gonna love that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it'd be a big That's awesome, man. A bunch of
Speaker 2: countries do that too, like not America, other countries. I
Speaker 2: mean obviously other countries, but you know what I mean. Secondly,
Speaker 2: when you have your first artist number one, how beautiful
Speaker 2: would it be to play in that Arby's parking lot?
Speaker 1: Oh dude? As for as for social media content, like
Speaker 1: it's the greatest. That would be awesome because and it's
Speaker 1: not even so much about everybody from Nashville. In fact,
Speaker 1: the Arby's is in the parking lot of the kmart
Speaker 1: where I met round Clasco too. Same like little Spot
Speaker 1: fact could probably left out of the media. I clipped there,
Speaker 1: but so but but still, I like, how cool would
Speaker 1: that be? And you tell this, you know, it's like
Speaker 1: it was on American Idol for a bunch.
Speaker 2: Of years, and you know we do these packages or
Speaker 2: it's like this person, it's like they used to come
Speaker 2: and watch play and then you play to like.
Speaker 1: Your home would be legit. It would be awesome.
Speaker 2: Man, like social media legit content. You can't start thinking
Speaker 2: about it yet because you you'll jinx it. I gotta
Speaker 2: do it on a flatbed trailer though?
Speaker 1: Thing? Did he play a flatbed trailer? See?
Speaker 2: I would watch that content, and I don't watch a
Speaker 2: lot of content.
Speaker 1: The Bobby Cast will be right back.
Speaker 4: M hm, this is the Bobby Cast my TikTok?
Speaker 2: What do you you're on TikTok? I mean I know
Speaker 2: you're on it, but I mean do you do you
Speaker 2: spend time on it? Like watching it?
Speaker 1: Do what pops up in your algorithm? Oh? Like probably
Speaker 1: video game stuff? What do you call duty okay? Or Nascar?
Speaker 1: I'm a massive Nascar fann.
Speaker 2: Is nineties wrestling Wow, a bunch of I like to
Speaker 2: collect baseball cards, basketball cards, that's what That's what we
Speaker 2: did yesterday.
Speaker 1: We flew to Baltimore for a baseball card event. Let's
Speaker 1: see what's that? That's awesome?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well was it did just let you down? It wasn't
Speaker 1: what you were hoping it would be, or you didn't
Speaker 1: get what you may have gone to get a little
Speaker 1: bit of all that, like a prize possession you thought
Speaker 1: might be there, and it just wasn't there. There was
Speaker 1: no possession I was looking for. Gotcha.
Speaker 2: I'm going to keep it real with you here. I
Speaker 2: like talking with you, by the way, which is not
Speaker 2: often the case. It's not that I don't like talking
Speaker 2: to people, but there's some people I'm just like, Oh,
Speaker 2: this is cool. I'm having a good time hanging out.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I actually don't mind telling a couple.
Speaker 1: Of these stories. I bought a box of cards, like
Speaker 1: a big box of cards.
Speaker 2: Now my story grew very poor, had no money. Now
Speaker 2: I have money, and it's weird and awesome, and so
Speaker 2: I opened it up and it's amazing. We're going with
Speaker 2: I got a John F. Kennedy autograph in there, and
Speaker 2: it's like big, massive players and old players signed it
Speaker 2: is really cool box cards and there's an invitation on it,
Speaker 2: like the Willie Wonka Golden Ticket. It was really a
Speaker 2: golden ticket and a thing. So I'm like, I says,
Speaker 2: you come to this party. We're not gonna tell you
Speaker 2: when or where it is. And so I'm just like
Speaker 2: waiting for an email or something there say email of
Speaker 2: this at top. So I email it and then like
Speaker 2: a month later I get an email going, Okay, you
Speaker 2: are coming to this party.
Speaker 1: It's in Baltimore, it's on this day. It's at Camden Yards.
Speaker 1: Be here. It's just kind of like or not, but
Speaker 1: be there. So I'm like, it's gonna be awesome. You're
Speaker 1: gonna meet cal Riveken, the whole thing. Meet him. I'm like,
Speaker 1: make out with him whatever and so, and I'm pumped.
Speaker 2: And my best friend is Eddie, who's on my radio show,
Speaker 2: and we weren't a little comedy duo together to play music,
Speaker 2: and I don't want to go by myself. But there's
Speaker 2: no plus one. It's a it's a one. It's like
Speaker 2: it's like welly wonka. It's like you get one ticket.
Speaker 2: So I get on eBay and I buy I find
Speaker 2: a ticket, not cheap, find ticket, and I'm like, Eddie,
Speaker 2: let's go.
Speaker 1: So we flew right for the show.
Speaker 2: We flew up to Baltimore and we go and they're
Speaker 2: like they're not telling you where it is, and all
Speaker 2: they finally get email. It's like those celebrity weddings were
Speaker 2: like they don't tell you where they're getting married until
Speaker 2: everybody gets to a like a central location. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: so they're like it's this place, going this entrance at
Speaker 2: Camden Yards, and like, I'm so excited, and in the
Speaker 2: email it's like, must wear dress shoes, can't wear tennis shoes.
Speaker 1: Well, we didn't pack anything.
Speaker 2: We're literally in tennis shoes and like it said, we're
Speaker 2: button up, so we didn't and but we're another wrong shoes.
Speaker 2: So now we're having a debate going to Marshalls to
Speaker 2: buy some shoes just to get into this thing.
Speaker 1: We're like, screwt, We're not doing it.
Speaker 2: We go Luckily we didn't buy shoes because there're a
Speaker 2: few people in tennis shoes. We go up to this
Speaker 2: room and there's no air conditioning. There's like they only
Speaker 2: had like a one hundred of these boxes anyway, and
Speaker 2: it's like a bunch of us eating finger roll chips
Speaker 2: of hoys and nowhere. Condition waited for an hour to
Speaker 2: get put into the main room. And I'm like this
Speaker 2: Willy Walker sucks the elevator.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like what does she? Michael Mike like purple, how
Speaker 1: does she the grape? The blueber? Yeah, something like give
Speaker 1: me something to do like that. Where's the Chocolate River, Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: chocolate River.
Speaker 2: And so finally they let us in and we go
Speaker 2: sit at these tables and they and they give us
Speaker 2: the food and we're eating and then they bring out
Speaker 2: and I thought it was going to be like Jeter
Speaker 2: or insert any super famous cal Ripken was one because
Speaker 2: we went to Baltimore and listen, athlete Rushman and a gun
Speaker 2: her Henters and are massive stars of the last three years.
Speaker 2: But I really thought it was. And then they started
Speaker 2: just going, all right, who wants to ask some questions?
Speaker 2: So they put her food down whatever, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I don't really want to. They're like kids, but the
Speaker 2: great baseball players. But it's crazy as we get older,
Speaker 2: they stay the same. No, they're like twenty four, twenty
Speaker 2: six years old, and so I only have a question
Speaker 2: for them.
Speaker 1: I'm all good on a question.
Speaker 2: So I'm eating my meat and because I got beef,
Speaker 2: and so they're like and so I'm like, screw it,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask a question because ed Eddie's just like,
Speaker 2: ask a question, be funny and we'll record it for
Speaker 2: the show. And so they both were in the All
Speaker 2: Star Game this past like two weeks ago.
Speaker 1: I played in the Celebrity All Star Game. I won
Speaker 1: the MVP of the game.
Speaker 2: In the celebrity game, and I was gonna be like,
Speaker 2: as a fellow All Star and ask him a question,
Speaker 2: but be totally serious, to be a stupid because I
Speaker 2: was gonna be like, did you get to see my tape?
Speaker 2: You know from I played two days before? You probably
Speaker 2: saw all the tape. It never even came to me
Speaker 2: for a question.
Speaker 1: So we left. That was it. That was it. Tell
Speaker 1: me you wouldn't.
Speaker 2: I should write a song about that. I should call
Speaker 2: it Baltimore Blues. Ooh, Baltimore or less Baltimore but less, Yeah,
Speaker 2: baltless Baltimore.
Speaker 1: Balton more or less. Yeah, I didn't Baltimore, but I
Speaker 1: don't know. I suck anyway. That's what I did yesterday.
Speaker 1: And so came back here.
Speaker 2: Almost canceled this because I was so sad, but then
Speaker 2: I'm glad you then it it was like Drue's a
Speaker 2: good guy, and I was like, all right, that's cool,
Speaker 2: that's cool. I'll do it then, But yeah, no, I like,
Speaker 2: so my algorithms a lot of baseball card stuff. But
Speaker 2: I collecked the cards as a kid then never really
Speaker 2: collected again, oh until like the last few years. And
Speaker 2: now I just I get obsessed with it. Everything if
Speaker 2: I get into anything, I have an obsession with it.
Speaker 1: Do you have that tendency at all? Oh? Yeah, If
Speaker 1: I commit to something, I'm like way in, like more
Speaker 1: than I should be, Like you're in. Like in twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: I bought like a NASCAR racing simulator and got like
Speaker 1: way into that. Can you compete online? Yeah? Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: cool and it's awesome because it's like legit competition. Does
Speaker 1: Caine have one of those? Uh think so you he
Speaker 1: was talking about like he hurt his hand or something?
Speaker 1: Was it Caine? Mike was telling me, I think one
Speaker 1: remembers so and he was saying, like you get in
Speaker 1: it and it's a it's legit. This is way more legitimate.
Speaker 1: But you get do you get tired driving it? Or
Speaker 1: is it? Like I would never commit to like probably
Speaker 1: those really long races. I mean you can do. I'm
Speaker 1: more like a maybe a fifty lapper kind of guy.
Speaker 2: Like I think if you make a really bad crash
Speaker 2: and ship like break your leg, like you should really
Speaker 2: commit like it would I.
Speaker 1: Mean the wheel is like the feedback in the wheel
Speaker 1: is like strong enough it could like take your risk.
Speaker 1: Could you be a race car driver? I've been told
Speaker 1: by some race car drivers that I would be all right,
Speaker 1: that's cool is that movie? I don't know that I
Speaker 1: have the balls to do that though, Like like on
Speaker 1: the thing, it's.
Speaker 2: Like fine, like the where you have to make it's like, okay,
Speaker 2: if we gotta go, we're gonna take the risk and go.
Speaker 1: Right, because I mean, like on the game is there's
Speaker 1: there's no punishment for wrecking, which is why they should
Speaker 1: like break your legs exactly, like to really make it count.
Speaker 5: At fire to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Have you driven a car? I have
Speaker 1: driven a race car. Yeah, it's cool. Yeah, it was good.
Speaker 1: I think I did like one hundred and sixty seven
Speaker 1: hours hard. Where did you do that? Atlanta Motor Speedway.
Speaker 2: There's a track here, And I went out and drove
Speaker 2: a long time ago Borchette's car.
Speaker 1: I don't even why.
Speaker 2: I don't even like driving car. I don't even drive
Speaker 2: in my car. And he's like, do you want to drive?
Speaker 2: And he put the suit on me, and I got
Speaker 2: a thing and I was flying. I was like, how
Speaker 2: fast was I going? He was like sixty two?
Speaker 1: But it just it was just hard to drive, like
Speaker 1: it was physically hard to drive. I thought, I was flying.
Speaker 2: I don't think I was even breaking the speed less
Speaker 2: when I was driving the thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's cool. You have favorite driver. I really don't.
Speaker 1: I have drivers I don't like.
Speaker 2: We've had some come in on the show, and I
Speaker 2: don't know much about Nascar. I'm a massive sports guy
Speaker 2: and we do a sports a couple of different sports shows,
Speaker 2: but I don't know much about driving. Do you want
Speaker 2: to save the drivers you don't like because it doesn't
Speaker 2: mean you don't like them as a person, but you
Speaker 2: don't like who they are publicly.
Speaker 1: Right, You don't have to, don't. Yeah, I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 2: I was doing his show once and I wish I
Speaker 2: knew that. Will you look up to Chris Hart show
Speaker 2: that I did or Kevin Hart show?
Speaker 1: Excuse me?
Speaker 2: And there was a so I did a show and
Speaker 2: Kevin Kevin Hart was hosting it, and there was a
Speaker 2: race car driver I don't know.
Speaker 1: I didn't know who he was.
Speaker 2: And we're all on zooms in different places, like a
Speaker 2: trivia game. I think it was on Peacock or something.
Speaker 2: I didn't know who the guy was, and I didn't
Speaker 2: say I didn't know. I'm just so stupid with race
Speaker 2: car drivers and the camera comes on and I'm like
Speaker 2: just me. I'm like, god, d you got a huge house, Like,
Speaker 2: what in the world do you do for a living?
Speaker 2: I gotta say that, right, And he's got He doesn't
Speaker 2: know if I'm kidding or not, so he doesn't know
Speaker 2: to be insulted or not. That's great, And I'm about
Speaker 2: to find out who it is. If you, yeah, let
Speaker 2: me know, Mike, whenever you writ let you, I could
Speaker 2: guess who.
Speaker 1: Was go out on the name of the show. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to find whose house it was because he wasn't
Speaker 1: on the show with you.
Speaker 2: Right, he was current, right, we were competing against each other.
Speaker 2: And here's how I knew, because I didn't know if
Speaker 2: we were competing against other notables.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying famous. I don't.
Speaker 2: I'm not famous. I'm like fractionally known. You have it, Okay,
Speaker 2: don't say it, yeah, don't say yet. How I knew
Speaker 2: he was somebody? His wife sat down and she was
Speaker 2: way hotter than him, and I was like, oh, big,
Speaker 2: hell is somebody like I knew he was somebody, Like
Speaker 2: who do you think it was?
Speaker 1: It didn't have the greatest person. I don't know him?
Speaker 1: Was it Denny Hamlin. No, but when, but when I would?
Speaker 1: I don't think I wanted to be his friend. After
Speaker 1: doing the show with him, I don't wait to know
Speaker 1: who this was now.
Speaker 2: Again this was this is his public He definitely could
Speaker 2: be awesome behind the scenes and we were competing against
Speaker 2: each other.
Speaker 1: But I remember going, I don't think I want to
Speaker 1: be his friend.
Speaker 2: Any other guesses you don't have to guess because it'll
Speaker 2: put you in the spot if you guess, and it's
Speaker 2: like somebody you don't like, you can say.
Speaker 1: No, I want to know, and then I want to react.
Speaker 5: Okay, go ahead, he's one of them, ye should That
Speaker 5: guy and I didn't hit it off very well, but
Speaker 5: again we were on computers and it just because he's.
Speaker 1: Kind of he's like the hit he's like the one
Speaker 1: of the heels of the sport so and definitely owns it.
Speaker 1: I just mentioned d yes, if he's a if he's
Speaker 1: a hill, some of that hill stuff could be on
Speaker 1: purpose in market that's so funny. Yeah, that's what it was.
Speaker 2: I remember I thought I was like, this guy, what
Speaker 2: in the world do is he because you know, he
Speaker 2: just wearing normal clothes and a button up and his
Speaker 2: shirt he got like his hair's combed, and I'm like, dang,
Speaker 2: you got columns because you can see the columns right
Speaker 2: in my mouth. I'm just like, you're making some money
Speaker 2: over there.
Speaker 1: Whatever did you do? And he I did.
Speaker 2: I thought maybe he thought I knew who he was,
Speaker 2: and I probably should have because he's way more known
Speaker 2: than I am. But I was just making a like,
Speaker 2: sayd some stuff, and that's what it was. And we
Speaker 2: had to beat I beat him. Yeah, yeah, it was
Speaker 2: a tribut killed him. Oh, I would be terrible. We've
Speaker 2: had some nice guys come in though to the show.
Speaker 2: I don't know any of their names. Yeah, Mike, you.
Speaker 1: Know the drivers have come in. Joey Logano.
Speaker 2: Joey Logano, I don't know if he's mean or not.
Speaker 2: You don't like him. He was super nice to me, really,
Speaker 2: because I have no It would be like if you know,
Speaker 2: Diamond Dallas Page or Roman Reigns or one of the
Speaker 2: wrestlers came in without knowing what their gimmick is.
Speaker 1: Joey Logano came in. It was super cool, and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, wonder what people don't like him? And
Speaker 1: said my friends told me, Yeah, yeah, a lot of
Speaker 1: it was his style, his his uh he's like another
Speaker 1: Hill of the sport. Yeah yeah, yeah, which I like,
Speaker 1: I'm all four, yeah, you need him, you need but
Speaker 1: you don't have to like him, right, I just like
Speaker 1: rooting for the guy who they don't like.
Speaker 2: Give me another one. Ryan Blaney, Yeah he was.
Speaker 1: He was like chill, yeah, great dude. He was like eleven,
Speaker 1: yeah right, Rosney very young. Yeah. He was like, I
Speaker 1: got armpit hair today and we were like, what that's it? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but those guys are They're athletes, they
Speaker 1: are dude, They're work at the the way they have
Speaker 1: to work out, and they're it's insane. It's crazy.
Speaker 2: I never really thought that until I got in the
Speaker 2: car went sixty two once and I was like, these
Speaker 2: guys are awesome. Camouflage cowboy is out. Love to leave
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna play it a little bit, but I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna play it a whole lot. I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: put it. I'm not gonna put it to number one,
Speaker 2: and then I'm gonna sit off of it a little bit.
Speaker 2: Because another cool thing that happens to is I don't know,
Speaker 2: I think we're on like two hundred and fifty stations
Speaker 2: and we're we have a nice little footprint as well
Speaker 2: where people will pay attention sometimes and maybe it helps
Speaker 2: too with people just going oh yeah, because sometimes it's
Speaker 2: just about getting stuff in front of people and they
Speaker 2: don't even know they like it yet.
Speaker 1: And that's that's why my answer to can you play it?
Speaker 1: Is yes, I just want people to hear it, and
Speaker 1: if it's ever like Bobby chill out, let me know,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't tell you that because I'm gonna cover it
Speaker 1: and put it out myself my own too.
Speaker 2: Please do I really enjoyed spending time with you, Drew,
Speaker 2: you too, man. You guys can follow Drew on Instagram.
Speaker 2: Mentioned it before Drew even came in, But it's Drew
Speaker 2: Parker plays Drew Parker. Being such a common name, you
Speaker 2: couldn't just get Drew Parker. Oh, I couldn't have.
Speaker 1: You tried to get it. And the guy that has
Speaker 1: it is like he always like comments on my stuff,
Speaker 1: and I think that maybe a long time controlling. That's hilarious.
Speaker 1: A long time ago. I tried to like get it
Speaker 1: from him. I think he's actually a fan.
Speaker 2: That's Kyle Busch, Like, yeah, yes, he's kind of was
Speaker 2: in trouble for no reason.
Speaker 1: Uh, if he's a fan, how many followers do you have?
Speaker 2: No, it'd be really cool if he's a fan, because
Speaker 2: you could give him a VIP experience and then trade
Speaker 2: it out for him. I don't think he's I don't
Speaker 2: think he's willing to do it. Uh, Drew Parker music
Speaker 2: dot com and then the same mistiktok. And the thing
Speaker 2: is with any of the social media platforms, now you
Speaker 2: must have the same name everywhere, even if Drew Parker existed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't go do it.
Speaker 2: I know I felt the same way because I could
Speaker 2: have got Bobby Bones and a couple but the people
Speaker 2: who wants to name those of Bobby Bones.
Speaker 1: It's a stupid name.
Speaker 2: But there were a couple of people that were using it,
Speaker 2: and so I had to be mister Bobby Bones so
Speaker 2: universally and mister Bobby But I feel so like adult
Speaker 2: mister acknowledge my misterness where I wish it were just
Speaker 2: like at Bobby Bones at Drew Parker plays. And I'm
Speaker 2: looking forward to seeing the success of the song. I
Speaker 2: love the story. I have two stories that I loved,
Speaker 2: and then we'll end on this. I love the story
Speaker 2: of you're writing this song and kind of the emotional
Speaker 2: and mental anguish that you had to go through because
Speaker 2: you believed in it so much, you had to take
Speaker 2: a step back to hopefully take four forward. And sometimes,
Speaker 2: and a lot of times, that's really the hardest part
Speaker 2: about what anyone has to do, because again, you get
Speaker 2: to just made your money and going this.
Speaker 1: This life is full of the music. Life is full
Speaker 1: of crazy decisions that you gotta make, and like weighing
Speaker 1: what you're going to do, and.
Speaker 2: Then I love that you said I'm gonna have a
Speaker 2: number one and I'm gonna quit the next day, and
Speaker 2: your boss is awesome, and then you got to play
Speaker 2: in the Army's parking line when it goes on.
Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, uh, good to see you, Drew, you too,
Speaker 1: males as having me.
Speaker 2: We decided to put this at the end of the
Speaker 2: podcast because we get into sports pretty heavily. This actually
Speaker 2: happened earlier in and Mike and I had to talk
Speaker 2: after and we were like, if people don't like sports
Speaker 2: and they just love country music, they're gonna be kind
Speaker 2: of bored by this part. But I also think this
Speaker 2: is why Drew and I kind of hit it off
Speaker 2: so quick. Yeah, because we're both big sports guys. So
Speaker 2: if you didn't want to hear that, you can listen
Speaker 2: to it. Now here is Drew Parker and I just
Speaker 2: talk in sports.
Speaker 1: Did you think you would be a ballplayer? I mean
Speaker 1: it was a as a kid. Yeah. I wanted to
Speaker 1: what was the age where you realized you weren't going
Speaker 1: to be a ball player? Senior year of high school?
Speaker 2: I asked, because you're I look at you and think
Speaker 2: former athlete. Oh thanks, You're welcome to the compliment. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And because there are guys like you that are annoying
Speaker 2: to me because you're like really good at what you
Speaker 2: do and you used to be good athletes.
Speaker 1: So it's like I just.
Speaker 2: Don't like that because I wasn't really either. It was
Speaker 2: a fine athlete and really wasn't good at what I
Speaker 2: was doing then, but like you come across as an
Speaker 2: Athlete's why I was asking, like the sports stuff. Do
Speaker 2: you ever get out and just go like hnny balls?
Speaker 1: Um? Not really? I mean I like, I love to
Speaker 1: play golf, now do you need to compete? Oh? Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: me too? You play pickball? Do you ever play pickball? No?
Speaker 1: I never have? You probably pretty good. I mean i'd
Speaker 1: whoop be it, but only because I've been paying a while.
Speaker 1: But then you catch up, right, Yeah, I mean I'll definitely.
Speaker 1: That's something that I've watched and been like, I think
Speaker 1: I could do that. Yeah, like basketball is too that's
Speaker 1: too crazy for me. Basketball. I'll listen to this. Do
Speaker 1: you ever get you get hurt? Howll do you? I'm
Speaker 1: thirty two, You're not there yet? Do I get? Well?
Speaker 1: You're not there yet. It doesn't matter what you said.
Speaker 1: You sleep in the shower this morning. My back's hurting.
Speaker 2: You're you're inching on being in that level. About thirty
Speaker 2: six is when things start to just you don't need
Speaker 2: to do much to injure it, but then it doesn't
Speaker 2: heal back the same. You got about three or four
Speaker 2: really good years in you. Yeah, like about thirty six
Speaker 2: thirty sevens when I just didn't heal anymore and I
Speaker 2: just signed up for like a two day thirty and
Speaker 2: up University of Arkansas basketball like camp where you go
Speaker 2: two days with like coach col Well, I don't eve
Speaker 2: play basketball, but I was like.
Speaker 1: Let's do it. Like it's just it's just stupid stuff.
Speaker 2: Or I know I'm gonna come back, and so you
Speaker 2: feel like you're gonna have to prepare for that, like
Speaker 2: go get in shape for that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I have more feel I will dedicate my
Speaker 1: life to it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I went and played in the Major League Baseball,
Speaker 2: like the celebrity All Star Game this year, and so
Speaker 2: I joined a softball league just so I could get
Speaker 2: ready for the one game.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. And you know what, you know what happened
Speaker 1: to your boy? You want MVP at the whole game.
Speaker 1: Let's go, dude. That's right.
Speaker 2: Like three weeks ago, I dedicated to my my softball team. See,
Speaker 2: but now everything still hurts and it's been like three weeks. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so you look like an athlete. You're from the South.
Speaker 2: I figured you played some ball. Were you a big
Speaker 2: Braves fan?
Speaker 1: Massive? Yeah? I was like, who were your guys? I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm a like Chipper Jones, Chippery Greg Maddox, Andrew Jones.
Speaker 2: I was a big Cups fan. I'm a little older
Speaker 2: than you, Suvemember when he played for the Cubs. Right,
Speaker 2: did you follow baseball religiously?
Speaker 1: I do? Yeah. I went to sid Yeah, I went
Speaker 1: to Houston on the Braves won the World Series A.
Speaker 2: Couple years ago, I went to I'm a big Cubs fan.
Speaker 2: We won the World Series of Cleveland. I went and
Speaker 2: watch us play Cleveland game too, and lost. Its terrible.
Speaker 2: We'll just geek out on sports for a second because
Speaker 2: I have a lot of stuff. Talk to you about music, Leyeah,
Speaker 2: like I like it when somebody likes to talk about
Speaker 2: things I like talk about right, and mostly it's like
Speaker 2: write a song.
Speaker 1: Number one.
Speaker 2: Went to watch the Cubs. Cubs famial whole life. We sucked.
Speaker 2: At least you guys went to like a lot of
Speaker 2: nlcs and a lot even when you were not winning
Speaker 2: World Series.
Speaker 1: Oh for sure. Yeah, at least you were close. We
Speaker 1: sucked my whole life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we go to Cleveland and we lose, and
Speaker 2: it's brutal. This is twenty sixteen. When'd you move here?
Speaker 2: Twenty fifteen? Okay, I remember this, Yeah, I remember seeing you.
Speaker 2: I remember like that guy's been here one year. I
Speaker 2: said that about you when I saw you on the street.
Speaker 2: Think he's been one one year. The CMA's were happening
Speaker 2: that year, and it was the first time I'd ever
Speaker 2: been in Vine. I did to be on the show
Speaker 2: as a presenter. I just beg for anybody to give
Speaker 2: me a shot on television. I'd been doing a lot
Speaker 2: of local stuff and like cable stuff and you'll appreciate
Speaker 2: this being a baseball fan. And the CMAS finally said, hey,
Speaker 2: why don't you come present on the CMAS. And I'm like,
Speaker 2: let's go. Finally somebody accepts me for what I really am.
Speaker 2: A true talent. That's what I remember, the true talent
Speaker 2: that I am. And it was Game seven, Cubs in
Speaker 2: Indians same night I turned down the CMAS. I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm not, I can't. I'm awaited my whole life. So
Speaker 2: I did not go to the CMAS. It was my
Speaker 2: first time my national television did not And so that
Speaker 2: game was Game seven, it went to extra innings, it
Speaker 2: rained away. Thank god the Cubs won or would have
Speaker 2: been one of the worst decisions in my life. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was a tough one, but there was no way
Speaker 2: I was going to miss.
Speaker 1: Good for you.
Speaker 2: You guys just want another one recently for you, like three.
Speaker 1: Years ago, two years ago, Yeah, twenty twenty one, you went.
Speaker 1: That's when I went, Yeah, what did you go to? Set?
Speaker 1: Did you go to? The final game? Was the last
Speaker 1: game we wanted in Houston. I mean, it was every
Speaker 1: childhood dream that I've I mean just culminated right there
Speaker 1: in Houston, Texas. Do you meet you met those guys?
Speaker 1: Have you ever met Chippert? I've never met Chipper. I've
Speaker 1: met one Brave in my life or no too, Ryan
Speaker 1: Klesko back in the day, he lived in Covington. Awesome,
Speaker 1: he lived in Covington. And so I've seen him in
Speaker 1: the Kmart parking lot. So you met him in the
Speaker 1: parking lot, not even like any games, No, it was
Speaker 1: like Kmart parking lot in Covington. Did you stop him? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you get an autographing I did somewhere. Big guy, Yeah, really
Speaker 1: big guy. And then there's a few of the current
Speaker 1: players I have met and you just said one. You
Speaker 1: said a few, Well, I just I've met aj Mintor
Speaker 1: he's a pitcher. Yeah, but you know a few of
Speaker 1: the other ones. Yeah. Yeah, was in Baltimore yesterday.
Speaker 2: And Adley Rushman and Gunner Henderson were doing anything and
Speaker 2: they're ballers now, And I thought I was gonna be
Speaker 2: cal Ripkin.
Speaker 1: It's not. I know, days are going.
Speaker 2: We flew up there and thought cal Ripkin was gonna
Speaker 2: be speaking, and it's cool. Those two guys are legit
Speaker 2: ball players now right, But I thought I was gonna
Speaker 2: be cal ripkin.
Speaker 1: I was a little disappointing. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So other than that, I'm done talking about sports. But
Speaker 2: I'm happy to know if you like sports.
Speaker 1: I do. I love sports. How good a golfer? Are
Speaker 1: you terrible? I'm serious? What do you consider terrible? Then?
Speaker 1: Can you break ninety? Yeah? Okay, you're right, you're good.
Speaker 1: You're pretty goading. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Some of these guys here annoyt because they played to
Speaker 2: play a lot, and they play a lot on the road.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, some of them even like Luke, you know,
Speaker 2: take somebody out with him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure. Uh. I mean I've gotten better
Speaker 1: if if I if I were able to play more often, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I think I could get better. I mean
Speaker 1: I have shot like in the low eighties and high
Speaker 1: seventies like once. You've broken eighty one time, like one time,
Speaker 1: and I don't even know ever broke And I've played
Speaker 1: longer than you. Yeaha keep rubbing it in, firshould be
Speaker 1: cluscal at Kmart. Now you broke eighty.
Speaker 3: God, dang dude, thanks for listening to a Bobby cast production.