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Speaker 1: Luteus. If it doesn't work, you're just not using enough.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to soft Rep Radio Special operations, military news

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Speaker 1: and straight talk with the guys in the community. Hey,

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Speaker 1: what's going on? Welcome back to soft Rep Radio. This

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Speaker 1: episode is truly unique because we're going to talk about

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Speaker 1: home buying in the economy right now and how you,

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Speaker 1: as a veteran, can have access to some tools that

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Speaker 1: are out there for you. I'm also going to dive

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Speaker 1: in with my guests about some of their backstory, and

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Speaker 1: right now I've got Justin Allen, who's a United States

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Speaker 1: Army alma mater, and I've got Tom Paquin who's States

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Speaker 1: Marine Corps all Caps. Okay at eighteen pilot. Okay, Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the show, gentlemen. Yeah, great, thanks to beer. All right, wonderful. Now.

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Speaker 1: I also shout out to Karen for reaching out and saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: I think this would be a good fit for your listeners,

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Speaker 1: rat and so thanks for all the back and forth

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Speaker 1: with her getting this arranged. So I guess my first

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Speaker 1: question for my listeners is tell me, Justin, what branch

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Speaker 1: were you in the United States Army and tell us

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Speaker 1: how you dived into that, how old were you when

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Speaker 1: you listed? Yeah, so yeah, I was United States Army,

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Speaker 1: I was twenty two, So I kind of took a

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Speaker 1: unique path I was. So I graduated college. I didn't

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Speaker 1: I went to Lehigh University and so I graduated. I

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Speaker 1: a commission. And so it's like the accelerated version of

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Speaker 1: West Point. So sixteen weeks, got a commission, went to

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Speaker 1: Was able to go to selection a few years later

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Speaker 1: do some courses along the way. I went to free

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Speaker 1: fall school, I actually went through the dive Well eighteen series,

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah? Those are crazy? You guys go do those

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Speaker 1: Can that be a Marine Corps pilot or does it

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Speaker 1: can get together and they set up parties and they

427
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Speaker 1: all get together and they really get to know their

428
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Speaker 1: neighbors really well, you know, one of the key points.

429
00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,119
Speaker 1: And when military families live in a particular area, generally

430
00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:36,520
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of family in the area. So

431
00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,760
Speaker 1: their neighbors and their friends and the own military people

432
00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:42,480
Speaker 1: become their family and they spend Thanksgivings together and Holidays together.

433
00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,560
Speaker 1: And so when I see that happen, that's really kind

434
00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,400
Speaker 1: of you know, one of the ownership mindset being part

435
00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,480
Speaker 1: of the community as well. And you know, we have

436
00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,960
Speaker 1: a resident and for right now, we're setting up a

437
00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,359
Speaker 1: dog parade for April first, and she just wants to

438
00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:55,560
Speaker 1: want to come out with their dogs and have a

439
00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,400
Speaker 1: good time, and they do stuff like that all the time,

440
00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,640
Speaker 1: and they just have a great, great community. And that's

441
00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,280
Speaker 1: probably way the part that we're the most proud of

442
00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,199
Speaker 1: is how the community actually comes together. That's awesome. And

443
00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,560
Speaker 1: how did you two wind up coming together since you

444
00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:10,119
Speaker 1: are from you know, two separate branches, and were you

445
00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,240
Speaker 1: guys friends prior or did you reach out to Tom?

446
00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,600
Speaker 1: How did you just to become the vice president of

447
00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:19,280
Speaker 1: development for Victory Base? Yeah? So, I mean, honestly, it

448
00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,480
Speaker 1: was kind of a crazy story the way that it

449
00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,800
Speaker 1: all happened. When I left the military, you know, I

450
00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:25,440
Speaker 1: wanted to go to business school. I kind of felt

451
00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,240
Speaker 1: like getting an MBA would be a great way for

452
00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,560
Speaker 1: me to take like military soft skills with leadership and

453
00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,960
Speaker 1: decision making and all of those things, and then apply

454
00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,080
Speaker 1: some academic back into it. And so I came out

455
00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,439
Speaker 1: of Afghanistan in early twenty twenty, I went to Northwestern's

456
00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,680
Speaker 1: Business School up in the Chicago area, and I went

457
00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,320
Speaker 1: to school with this whole idea of like, I didn't

458
00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,600
Speaker 1: want to take a conventional route. You know. I definitely

459
00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,120
Speaker 1: made that clear when I joined the Army. I wanted

460
00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,840
Speaker 1: a very unconventional route to do something to me that

461
00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:53,720
Speaker 1: would be more of value, and so I kind of

462
00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:57,000
Speaker 1: fell in love with this idea of entrepreneurship, where you know,

463
00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,240
Speaker 1: you can really just find a problem that you really

464
00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,400
Speaker 1: interested in and you want to go try and solve

465
00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:02,840
Speaker 1: it and make it a little bit better for people

466
00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,000
Speaker 1: and for me. When I left the military, I had

467
00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,000
Speaker 1: done some real estate on the side. I thought it

468
00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:08,680
Speaker 1: was cool, but I wanted to take it to kind

469
00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,240
Speaker 1: of a next level, and so I went to business

470
00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,480
Speaker 1: school with a I guess you could say maybe like

471
00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,000
Speaker 1: a thesis, but just an idea of When I was

472
00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,600
Speaker 1: in the military, I moved all the time. I missed

473
00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,040
Speaker 1: like the first two years of my kid's life deploying.

474
00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,960
Speaker 1: We moved frequently, We rarely had predictability. And I saw

475
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,040
Speaker 1: it happen with my brother. You know, he's twenty years

476
00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:27,959
Speaker 1: in the Marine Corps now him and his family are

477
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,600
Speaker 1: moving all over the place. People that I cared a

478
00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,240
Speaker 1: lot about were just always like on the go, renting,

479
00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,040
Speaker 1: feeling like they were never really getting ahead. And so

480
00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,879
Speaker 1: I went to school and said, you know, this is

481
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,560
Speaker 1: like a big problem, but this would be a very

482
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,760
Speaker 1: cool thing to kind of commit like the next chunk

483
00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:43,720
Speaker 1: of my life too. And so I went into school

484
00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,760
Speaker 1: and I needed to learn the finance, I needed to

485
00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,879
Speaker 1: learn the real estate stuff. But through that whole journey,

486
00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:50,920
Speaker 1: I was actually able to get involved with this year

487
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,439
Speaker 1: long entrepreneurship program that was just founded and backed by

488
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,840
Speaker 1: Sam Cell, a big real estate magnate businessman, you know

489
00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,159
Speaker 1: who's did really really well. And through that program, I

490
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 1: actually got connected with the Victory Base because a friend

491
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 1: of mine, another Green Beret, he I think he saw

492
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,200
Speaker 1: a post on LinkedIn and he was like, Hey, they're

493
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,919
Speaker 1: these these very small group of guys down to Texas.

494
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,880
Speaker 1: They're doing this. They've got some traction, they're underway, They've

495
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,879
Speaker 1: figured out a way to kind of solve the issue.

496
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,639
Speaker 1: And it was through this whole concept of people can

497
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,719
Speaker 1: live in the homes. They can in many ways kind

498
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,440
Speaker 1: of look like a renter, but they're actually owners. They're

499
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 1: owners of the company, and they take this ownership mindset

500
00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 1: and it's so just like perfectly aligned with what I

501
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 1: was trying to do, what I was thinking of, And

502
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 1: so we got connected and I was able to meet Tom.

503
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,199
Speaker 1: I met the CEO, John Sharkey, and we kind of

504
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,920
Speaker 1: just had this like, oh, hey, we clearly have very

505
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,480
Speaker 1: aligned visions here. We've got we've got the same goals

506
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 1: in mind, and we've got the same mission driven mindset.

507
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,119
Speaker 1: So he had conversations, and I was lucky enough, you know,

508
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,440
Speaker 1: I met Tom and obviously we kind of hit it off,

509
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,199
Speaker 1: and they said, hey, look, if you want to move

510
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 1: down here to Fort Worth, Texas, we'd love to have

511
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 1: you on the team. You know. So after leaving business school, decided,

512
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 1: I think this is a great path to go. I

513
00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,400
Speaker 1: can jump in their boat, help him row and get

514
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,679
Speaker 1: this thing going and really have a big impact. I

515
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,199
Speaker 1: like the mentality of jumping the ship in row. I

516
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 1: like to play the drum on the ship. So keep

517
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,919
Speaker 1: rowing and I'll do the drums. You know, no problem.

518
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 1: Someone has to hit the drum. And now with a

519
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 1: someone with the veterans benefits, right, like I got my

520
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 1: home through the VA benefit from being a veteran. Okay,

521
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 1: spent so many times in active duty, you qualify for

522
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 1: your veterans no down payment, no PM I typically on

523
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 1: your loan from your mortgage. In fact, my lender thought,

524
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 1: He's like, I don't know if I should file this.

525
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,159
Speaker 1: It feels like I'm stealing, right, And that was with

526
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 1: my veterans backing from the government, and I was like, hey, man,

527
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,439
Speaker 1: I don't know what you feel like. All I know

528
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 1: is this is my documentation and I'm ready to sign

529
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 1: to close. And so it happened. But he felt like

530
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 1: it was just too easy to get in with no

531
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,880
Speaker 1: down payment. And this was two thousand and eight. So

532
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 1: I was buying right at the time that President Obama

533
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,199
Speaker 1: was saying, hey, buy a house, here's a bonus, you

534
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 1: know what I mean. In Oa, it was like an

535
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,359
Speaker 1: eight thousand dollar bonus. And so the market had crashed

536
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 1: and the bubble had happened and burst in. Houses that

537
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 1: were sold for four hundred are now being dropped down

538
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 1: to two ten, you know in my area, and now

539
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 1: those houses are back up to like five six hundred today.

540
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 1: This is since two thousand and eight, right, So do

541
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,959
Speaker 1: your benefits help getting into victory bases? There's something that

542
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 1: you guys, can you use from that from the veteran

543
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 1: you know, I'll answer this one really quick. You know,

544
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 1: the VA loan is great. It's a great opportunity for

545
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,880
Speaker 1: veterans to use. And obviously if you're in that same

546
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 1: home for as long as you've been from two thousand

547
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 1: and a all the way until twenty twenty three, you're

548
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,199
Speaker 1: able to appreciate that and see that American dream. So

549
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,159
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a great deal if you have that opportunity.

550
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: But once again, if you're an active duty military member

551
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 1: and you're moving again in two or three years, all

552
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 1: the economics and the transaction costs still exists, so you

553
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 1: still have to pay, and you're also paying that two

554
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,120
Speaker 1: and a half percent fee for the VA funding fee

555
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 1: on top of it. So it really really kind of

556
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 1: pussy behind the powerker, to use an aviation term. But

557
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 1: when you're behind that powerker, if you really can't can't

558
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 1: work your way out of it, unless you hold onto

559
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 1: the house and rent it. In many case, and we

560
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 1: call those the accidental landlords. You know, I didn't really

561
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 1: intend to be a landlord, but now I am a

562
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: landlord because a little bit behind the house and I

563
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 1: can't really sell it yet. So you end up being

564
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 1: a landlord from San Diego or wherever your next duty

565
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: station is, and we're deployed, you know, and your wife

566
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 1: has to worry about it, and really that takes away

567
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: from a military readiness. Quite honestly, you know, people are

568
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 1: sitting in Afghanistan or act somewhere and they're they're wondering

569
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,880
Speaker 1: if they're going to get their plumber there, Landlord. Yeah,

570
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 1: that would definitely pull from the mission at hand, right,

571
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 1: And so now that makes total sense when you explain it.

572
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,160
Speaker 1: So active duty, you know you're looking for a place

573
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,159
Speaker 1: you're going to be PCs into another location, and you

574
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 1: need to start investigating where to live. Well, Victory Base

575
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: would probably be the place you would turn to to

576
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: start that process, right, Yeah, I think so. And remember

577
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 1: it's actually just not just active duty as well. There

578
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 1: are veterans that are going to be in an area

579
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 1: and they know they're only going to be there for

580
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 1: a few years. They're going to, you know, join this company.

581
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 1: The company more than likely will transfer them. They're hoping

582
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: to get back to their hometown or whatever the situation

583
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: looks like. Totally makes sense for that person as well.

584
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,680
Speaker 1: Don't buy the house if gonna be there for a

585
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 1: few years doesn't make sense. Victory Base totally makes sense.

586
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: And ug An opportunities still have some appreciation and value

587
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 1: of an investment. Now, either one of you can answer

588
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 1: this feel free. It's not just a veteran application. You

589
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 1: can be also a civilian that is the station in

590
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: someplace if for your job looking for a place through

591
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 1: victory bases, that right, or should you be a veteran anybody? Yeah,

592
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: it's really for anybody. Like Tom was saying, I mean

593
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 1: these military communities, when you look at the demographics, there's

594
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 1: obviously gonna be a lot of active duty, but you're

595
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 1: also gonna have a lot of retired. You're gonna have

596
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: a lot of civilians that are supporting the base. You know.

597
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 1: So the Army wasn't very good at picking locations, but

598
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: the Navy has some pretty nice locations. You know San

599
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: Diego for example. You know, it's just a normal town

600
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: where you're gonna have tons of diversity, a ton of

601
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: different groups of people. So you know, when you look

602
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: at it, really, I mean our business model, it works

603
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 1: very nicely for anybody who's going to be what we

604
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 1: kind of call predictably transient. You know, you move into

605
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 1: a location, you might be there for two to three years,

606
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 1: and that just happens with the military. I mean we

607
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 1: all felt it. You know, we moved I think in

608
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 1: nine years, nine or ten years, I moved four or

609
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 1: five times, you know, and that doesn't even a count

610
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 1: the deployment. So really for anybody who's going to be

611
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 1: picking up relocating, nurses do it, teachers do it. It's

612
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: a great business model that kind of addresses that issue

613
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,919
Speaker 1: of when you buy a home. You know, even of

614
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,640
Speaker 1: note too, like the time to close can be very inconvenient,

615
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: you know, especially if the VA can be a little

616
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: bit slower. If it takes thirty to forty days to

617
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: close on a home, many times you find service members.

618
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: You know, that's a good example your PCs. You want

619
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: to try to buy a home, you're going to be

620
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,479
Speaker 1: in some form of temporary housing while you wait for

621
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: your home to close, So you're gonna have to go

622
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: live in a hotel for thirty or forty days, you

623
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 1: might have to go to the field for training, you

624
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: might have to come down on orders for deployment. What

625
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,199
Speaker 1: all sorts of crazy stuff happened, which kind of just

626
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: exacerbates the problem a little bit. You know, it's hard

627
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 1: to support that transient life style. If you'd probably go

628
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 1: talk to the first sergeant before you go buy something

629
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: it really expensive and make sure that you're not deploying

630
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 1: into the field in the next forty days. So, you know,

631
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 1: when I started the q or, you know, I'm you know,

632
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: not beating my chest, but everybody knows the attrition rates

633
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 1: are high. You know, you go through selection, you're gonna

634
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: take a you know, thirty to forty percent, and then

635
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: you started the qualification course and every month, you every

636
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 1: two months, you're going through a different phase, and so

637
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: people are just trickling out as they either you know,

638
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: fail or quit or whatever. And so from day one,

639
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: you know, you know you're gonna be a four BRAG

640
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: for two years, and they're just like, do not buy

641
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 1: a home because you're gonna you're gonna go to the

642
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 1: field and quit, and then you're gonna be stuck with

643
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 1: a house that you don't know what to do with.

644
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 1: And so unfortunately, you know, like when I was at BRAG,

645
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 1: I would have loved to have bought a home. I was,

646
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 1: you know, confident in myself. I felt confident I was

647
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: going to make it through, but I was a renter

648
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 1: that entire time, just feeling like every month, man, this sucks.

649
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 1: I'm just like trashing money on rent. I'm totally qualified

650
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 1: to buy a home. I'm totally capable. I know, I'm

651
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: you know, credit worthy. I've got to vee lo and

652
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,959
Speaker 1: I've got all this stuff. But life circumstances prevented me

653
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,439
Speaker 1: from from getting that access to equity, which was a

654
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: little bit of, you know, a price to pay for

655
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: what I wanted to do. But there's there's a better way.

656
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,360
Speaker 1: There's a better way. You know. That's you know that's

657
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: not really thought about. You know, You're you're trying to

658
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: become this person right in life as a young man,

659
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 1: and you've chosen to go through SF Special Forces School

660
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 1: and to go through the qualification course. I'm just breaking

661
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 1: it down so my listener knows the Q course and

662
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: then you go through like your SEER Special Survival of

663
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 1: Asian Resistance Escape probably Robin's Sage, all these different you know,

664
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: theaters that you have to go through these training levels,

665
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 1: and the whole time you're just like, I'm paying rent. Yeah,

666
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: you know, you know, it's like you're trying to make

667
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,479
Speaker 1: a foundation for yourself, a financial one, right. You're like,

668
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: I know that I'm going through all these hard things

669
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: right now, but my money should be going into something

670
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: like a like a CD or something that's making money

671
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: for me while I'm out in the field. Yeah, exactly.

672
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: You don't want to. You don't want to be in

673
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: the field thinking about your equity. You know. You're like,

674
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: you're on you're on mission, trying to get selected or

675
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: passed or whatever, and you're over you're thinking about your

676
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: you know, your rent or something. But you're like, it's

677
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: the first of the fifteenth and it's Q course, You're like, Okay,

678
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: I just got deducted. Okay, cool, I'm good. I mean

679
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: more miles left third, Yeah exactly exactly. But having a

680
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: victory base as kind of like your NASCAR pit crew,

681
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: you know, to help you with your housing, help alleviate

682
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: some of that burden. You have a place you're investing

683
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: that money. You don't have to worry about where your

684
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: money's kind of going, and you can stay focused on

685
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: the mission. Like Tom pointed out, you don't want to

686
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: be distracted. You guys are definitely you know, the tips

687
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: of the spears of many, many instruments. Yeah, I'll throw

688
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: another point in here as well, as we actually went

689
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: to the SEC when we filed with SEC with our

690
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: with our plans we could sell shares to our residents

691
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: and so it's called the Reggae, And so before any

692
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: of our residents want to want to invest with us,

693
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: they're they're actually buying shares of the company so they

694
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: can go through and they should read the Reggae and

695
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: understand the tire investment and see what it looks like.

696
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: But it's pretty straightforward. You know, you live in our

697
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: homes and you're buying shares as you're living there, and

698
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: then you become an owner. You know, you you have

699
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: the ownership mindset, you take control of the community. And

700
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: and I tell you, I always go back to this

701
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: because I know the people that live in the communities

702
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: and know the community better than we do. So we

703
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: just want to give them the power to trade. The parties,

704
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: have the fun. Somebody gets sick or has a baby

705
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: or whatever, they're bringing the dinners over to them, and

706
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: it just makes a great place to live. And I

707
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: think that's as important as the investment as well. And

708
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: I'm sure their word of mouth between themselves and their

709
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: chains are spreading as well for you guys, like, oh

710
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: what do you mean you guys don't live on base?

711
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: Where do you live? Oh? Well, we live through like

712
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: this other applicated victory base just go check it out,

713
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: you know, and then they'll go check it out and

714
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: maybe see if it's something for them as well, which

715
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: I want my listener to check out, you know, if

716
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: you're thinking about you need a place and you want

717
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: and this sounds like an opportunity. I'm not paid by

718
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: any of these guys to have them on my show.

719
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: This is a mutual conversation to talk about, you know,

720
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: trying to get into a house. What's the housing market

721
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: is so crazy right now. You know, everybody's trying to

722
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: get small houses, sprinter vans. Where are you going to live?

723
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: You know, down by a river. That's actually becoming a thing. Yeah,

724
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: one of the best Snell skits ever, by the way,

725
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: that that was just a great skin tragic that was

726
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: one of the best ever. Yeah, I loved of it.

727
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: It's true people are coming up with crazy options because

728
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, not to get in the boring

729
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: economics stuff, but it's like it's you know, inflation is

730
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: real and cost of living is going up a lot

731
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: for people, you know, and especially within the military communities.

732
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: When people get a housing allowance every year, it doesn't

733
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: always necessarily trail the cost of living. You know, you

734
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: might get a few percentage point increase on your housing allowance,

735
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: but you know, when when cost of living goes up

736
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: ten percent or something, it's a struggle. So yeah, people

737
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: are looking for better options. They're looking for a better

738
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: way to do it. And right now, it's just like,

739
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: you know, innovation's got to hit the market. There's got

740
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: to be better ways that are presented the old binary

741
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: option of either buyer rent or I guess maybe there's

742
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: a third living your parents basement or down by the river.

743
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: But but yeah, you know, people need better options. It's happening.

744
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: You know. Here in Salt Lake, the big focus is

745
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: housing and how to help the shelter lists. Right that's

746
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: and there are veterans who are in that world of

747
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: just out here it's cold, you know. I know it's cold,

748
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: and I go to bed thinking that it's cold at date,

749
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: you know, I do. I'm like, oh, it's cold, you know,

750
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: And I've got friends out there that I just think

751
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: about it. I'm like, dude, it's cold, you know, and

752
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: holy cow, just snow so much. And you know, the

753
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: housing market is so ridiculous, and COVID spun it into

754
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: this huge, you know, cash market of if you don't

755
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: have cash to buy it all out right, you're just

756
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: going up again. People are What I'm trying to get

757
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: out is homeowners have been trying to make this new

758
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: stand saying to the real estate agent, please sell our

759
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: house to a family first. We understand that people are

760
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: going to come in with these all cash offers straight

761
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: up and that's Gucci and it's just like boom. But

762
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: they're really trying to say, hey, can we just try

763
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: to sell the first offer to a family to move

764
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: in versus an all cash offer because the bank's going

765
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: to give them their money anyways, if they got a

766
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: loan and they're approved, it's going to come to the

767
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: to the persons selling it, so, you know, rather than

768
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: just with no offense to a victory base, you know,

769
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: I know you guys are doing this in a different aspect,

770
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: whereas like these all cashes are just like you're not

771
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: even allowed to airbnb in Salt Lake without being a

772
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: short term lease legit place, you know. So it's very crazy.

773
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: So the market is very crazy here, That's all I

774
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: want you to know. So if you look up Utah,

775
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: it's it's a very interesting market. You know. I think

776
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: it's crazy all over it quite honestly. You know, the

777
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: market has changed a lot, like you said, over the

778
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: last few years, and it's definitely made it more difficult

779
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: to figure it out. We're trying to make that easier,

780
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: especially for the military families. And we take a lot

781
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: of pride in what we do. We put an American

782
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: flag in every single house that we have, So if

783
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: somebody's triggered by an American flag, don't come in our

784
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: community because you American flags up and down right there. Yeah, yeah,

785
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: it is. And when we love and also we want

786
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: to hire military families, you know, and I say families

787
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: because you know, somebody's living in our community, the spouse

788
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: can can come and work with us and do things

789
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: with us. And if somebody wants to leave the active

790
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: duty and start another career, just like justin did you

791
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,239
Speaker 1: know this, this is where you wants you to come.

792
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: We want you, you know, really look at Victory Bases

793
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: another opportunity too, so and a patriotic one. Well, I said,

794
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 1: don't don't come in our neighborhood if you're gonna get

795
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: triggered by the flag, just not gonna work. Just take

796
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 1: care of the flag, Just protect her. Just take care

797
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,919
Speaker 1: of her and treator as she is, and uh, don't

798
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: let her get hijacked. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Okay,

799
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 1: we got no problem with our flag, that's what's up.

800
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,240
Speaker 1: We just can't let her get hijacked in any wrong way.

801
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: And so once we take care of her as we

802
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: have sworn to at some point, you know that. I yeah,

803
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,760
Speaker 1: there's no problem with that flag in any of those houses,

804
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: percent around any of our streets. Yeah, we have of

805
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: putting our agreements that they have to take care of them.

806
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 1: If something happens to the flag, they've got to fix

807
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 1: it and make it right. And it's important that that's

808
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: one of the cornerstones of the company, you know. And

809
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: it wasn't long ago I read online somebody had literally

810
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: said they were triggered by the American flag. And it

811
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: was that day I said, you know something, this now,

812
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,240
Speaker 1: right now, we're making decision. We're going forward with American flags.

813
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: And every single time, yeah, yeah, And I think what

814
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: people get triggered is that it's been pulled into two

815
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: parts over these last years. And I do hit that

816
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 1: with my audience. You know, it's been pulled apart on

817
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: both sides. So it's like one size sees it one way,

818
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: another size sees it another way. And that's where I

819
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: say hijacking our flag, because it's just one way it

820
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 1: is the American flag. And I had the fortunate honor

821
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: to speak to a former ambassador to NATO the other

822
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: day and he was telling me, rad, there's us before

823
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 1: every one of our name takes. Whether you're in the Coastguard,

824
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: the Marines, the Army, the air Force, or border or

825
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 1: any of that kind of stuff. He's like, it said,

826
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: or National Guard. It says us first, Not what color

827
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: am I? What language am I? It says us before it.

828
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: So as long as we can just bring that back together,

829
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: that we're all under that same flag, Yeah, that's what

830
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: that's You know, what I think is mostly incredible as

831
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: well as inside the military service, it doesn't matter who's left,

832
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: is how good are they? You know, how can you

833
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: actually accomplish the mission? And I tell you some the

834
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: best and most incredible people are people that from the

835
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: outside looking in we say, well there's got to be

836
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: a problem. You're like, no, there's no problems. This is great,

837
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: the great, great Americans. And that's all there is to it,

838
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: you know. That's why I don't get some of this stuff.

839
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: And maybe I'm old schooled from that standpoint, but but

840
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: I really just see the you know, just just Americans.

841
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,439
Speaker 1: That's all we're doing right there, executing admission. It's just great.

842
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 1: We're old school, bro, It's okay. You know. I'm a

843
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: Cold War child from the seventies, you know, and seventy seven,

844
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,240
Speaker 1: and that's when I was raised up through the eighties,

845
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: So you know, I see things that way, you know.

846
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: But I'm trying to see things today too. I work

847
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 1: with a lot of youth, and so I get all

848
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 1: sides of the fence. But at the end of the day,

849
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: let's just come to agree that we defend our nation

850
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: from foreign or domestic, and that flag is the veil

851
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: that is over us to protect us at night. That

852
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 1: kind of mantra is is how I feel. Yeah, And

853
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: the American flag is welcoming to everybody, you know, as

854
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: long as you stand up the same ideals of protecting

855
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: the nation and making the nation great, then than it

856
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 1: is for everyone. I really truly believe that, and I

857
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 1: probably that we're really probably the flag we're brought to

858
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: have it there, and you know, we're we're all in red,

859
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: but we'll have to show you. We got a pretty

860
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: cool photo from one of our communities. It's it's I

861
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: think Tom, I think you took that photo, but it's

862
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: it's just a real nice picture of the entire runway

863
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: of the front of all the homes and you can

864
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: just kind of see the American flags going down the

865
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: community and it's just it's like that speaks very well

866
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: for for what Detre based standsports and it's a good photo.

867
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: So I would love to have that. If you can

868
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: send that to my producer, we'll put it into the

869
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: post so I way, when our listeners go to look

870
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: at the post, they can see just, you know, exactly

871
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:32,720
Speaker 1: what we're talking about with the street and the flags,

872
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: and just that'll be a nice little thing in there

873
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: in our in our story, our breakdown of what we

874
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: talk about. I don't know, sometimes I get emotional when

875
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: I think about the flag and I think about you know,

876
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: people living out on the streets and homes, and you know,

877
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 1: it's a big thing that you guys are stepping into

878
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 1: to try to help curve that, you know, and especially

879
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: for our veterans out there and our military personnel who

880
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: are looking for a place to lie their head and

881
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: get ready to wake up five minutes later. But you

882
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: want to know that your money's gone into an investment, okay,

883
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: And so as long as that's happening, you are going

884
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 1: to feel like you're doing something right. You're like, hey,

885
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: my money's in a good spot. It's in an investment.

886
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: You know, it's there. It is. I can't agree, I

887
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: can't just yeah, it's not like you're gambling with it.

888
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: It's not like you're putting it in a slot machine

889
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: and you're losing it when you should be saving it.

890
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: And there's you know, with the ownership mindset, like we

891
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: talk a lot about it. I mean, it's really it's

892
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 1: like the core of our businesses. And I think people

893
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: in the military know kind of what that ownership mindset

894
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: feels like. And a good example is so when you

895
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: go to basic or wherever your new unit, you know,

896
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: you get issued like your first weapon. That weapon has

897
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: been handed down from you know, fifty third you know,

898
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 1: however many people before you, and there's always this underlying

899
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: feeling of like it's the governments, you know, And so

900
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: a lot of times you don't see people take very

901
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 1: good care of their stuff, even though the reality is

902
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: like you take care of your equipment when you need it,

903
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 1: it'll take care of you three ninety nine. Yeah, but

904
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: you don't really take on that ownership mindset like you

905
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: own it because there's in a year or two you

906
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: know you're going to move on from it or whatever.

907
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: And so the whole thing was, well, when people own

908
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 1: a home, they treat it differently. If they owned a

909
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: piece of equipment, they would treat it differently. And so

910
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: the whole concept was, well, to change the behavior of

911
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: people who live in these homes, how can we make

912
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 1: them feel like they own it? And the reality is, well,

913
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: if you own part of the company, you know you're

914
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: going to own part of every piece of the community,

915
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: and so you would take on that ownership mindset, which

916
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: over time would just lead to better care, better engagement,

917
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: like you know, more people in the community actually stepping

918
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: up and taking on a little bit of responsibility to

919
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: make the place better. So it gets it's kind of

920
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 1: this like amorphous, you know, a little bit abstract idea,

921
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: but the ownership mindset, I think I think everybody kind

922
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: of feels it in different ways and knows exactly, you know,

923
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: what it's like when when something's yours right and when

924
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: you own it, there is that ownership. It's like you

925
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: have a gym membership. You may not go as much,

926
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: but if you have the weights in your house, you

927
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: can use them right there there they are, So it's

928
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: a same Yeah, I'm not sure that's a good example.

929
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 1: I've waits in my house. I don't use it as much.

930
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 1: I had to go with it because I was saying it.

931
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 1: I realized that I just have to lift them. It's

932
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: a tough one. That's a tough one. Hey, welly human,

933
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to be positive. Yeah, it's all good. Well,

934
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: you guys are awesome. Trying to have this business and

935
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: go from being a civilian to a veteran to a

936
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: civilian again and having to Rubik's cube your life around

937
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: and figure out what am I going to do? Now?

938
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 1: I've got this knowledge of college, I've got this knowledge

939
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: of how to pull how to shoot the watch? How

940
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: do I shoot the watch? As a civilian? Though? What

941
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: am I doing here? You know? It's like how do

942
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 1: we keep shooting that watch? You know? It's like, well,

943
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: you put your mind on your money. Well, and that's true,

944
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: and you still have to have past times and have

945
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: fun as well, and so I still fly. So if

946
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: you want to go flying with us sometimes you feel free,

947
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 1: come out and we'll get a couple of airplanes airborne

948
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 1: at the same time, and we'll shoot the watch. We'll

949
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: have a blast. So that the invitations are you really

950
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: say that to me, where are you at Texas and

951
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: really offering this on the internet. It's off forever forever.

952
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 1: I'll offer it up too. If you want to go

953
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: rock or something, we could go do that as well.

954
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 1: You know, I did a lot of rocking in the army,

955
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't do it too much anymore.

956
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: But always up for I'll go ruck with you. We

957
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: could do like a couple of months. I could do

958
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: like three months. So let me tell you something real quick.

959
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 1: My dad would go ruck march as a Green Beret

960
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 1: when I was a little man, and I would ride

961
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: my bike with him, and he would do six miles

962
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,439
Speaker 1: a day, and he would throw cinder blocks in his ruck, right,

963
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: and so he would go with like sixty pounds or so.

964
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: And so here we are and he's rucking, just no problem,

965
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 1: little aeron on his bike. I'm just riding next to dad. Yeah,

966
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: let's go and now today with war games, and I'm

967
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: so involved in this war game world out here in Utah.

968
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: We're always pounding the ground out in the desert and

969
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 1: we're really just doing all the same maneuvers field training

970
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: exercises without having to really salute anybody. You know, it's

971
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,760
Speaker 1: just a war game. It's all using these airsoft guns

972
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: and guys like yourself, guys like me, people who have asthma,

973
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: who could never join, you know, the military, but have

974
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: like this Captain America heartbeat that are looking for some

975
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: type of like I wish I could have been behind

976
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 1: a bunker or a sandbag. So we built up a

977
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: desert property that has all of that out there, and

978
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: these guys come out and they play. We're very inclusive, right.

979
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 1: I've got a young man who is premature five weeks

980
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 1: free me as a baby and it ruined his eye,

981
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 1: but he can never join the military. But in airsoft

982
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: war games, the kid is just like every single day

983
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: on time would have been the best in the track.

984
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: So I'm just saying, no, there's there's so many patriots

985
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: out there, and that's like like you're saying, I mean

986
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: I'd always said, like, I feel like being able to

987
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: serve as a privilege because I fully acknowledged that like

988
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: somewhere along the way there could have been something that

989
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 1: stopped me that out of my control, out of your people,

990
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 1: out of your control. You know, your injuries happen to everybody.

991
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: So to really get through that process and be able

992
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: to like work with those teams, truly, it was like

993
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 1: grateful on a daily basis. And even you know, you're

994
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: talking about doing that stuff the basics like rocking and

995
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: carrying stuff at face value, it's like it kind of

996
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: looks silly, but but the truth is those are the

997
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 1: fundamentals that when you actually go into a war zone,

998
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: there's no there's really it's like you gotta go to bit,

999
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna carry heavy stuff up mountains your equipment, and

1000
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: myself like monkey, yeah, no, I mean it's the truth.

1001
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 1: It's the truth, and like it's true. No, I mean,

1002
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: and if you can't do those simple things right, like yeah,

1003
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: grab one hundred pounds of stuff and like walk up

1004
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: a mountain, it sucks. But like you know, that's that's

1005
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: kind of what's uh, that's still how it's done even

1006
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: in modern days. It's setting, it's what's needed, right, and

1007
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: we go. When we go to the gym and work out,

1008
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: I wear a ruck with a bunch of weights inside

1009
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: of it, so our ammunition. These babies that we use

1010
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 1: for war games, they're in bags and so they really

1011
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 1: are appliable. So I put them in all the different

1012
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: pouches on my rucksacks so that way it doesn't dig

1013
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: into my back. And so we'll do stairmasters for like

1014
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 1: fifteen twenty minutes where you don't touch the rails, just

1015
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,959
Speaker 1: dripping sweat, just dripping sweat. And people at the twenty

1016
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: four hour fitness or whatever would look at us because

1017
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: we're all in rucksacks. Three might be and my two guys.

1018
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: But we're going out to the desert. We're climbing hills

1019
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: and we're going, you know, without the rucksack, and so

1020
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 1: without the rucksack, we're getting up there. You know, no problem.

1021
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 1: Even with the rucksack. I'll get up there. But yeah,

1022
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 1: that's a sensitive spot. I like the ruck. All to

1023
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: fly in a plane, but I like the ruck. Yeah,

1024
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: I'd tell you every time we were rucking, we never

1025
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 1: had F eighteens flying, but we always typically had F

1026
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 1: sixteens flying over us in the mountains of eastern Afghanistan

1027
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: and a shout out to one of my dudes. We

1028
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: went on this one mission where we had to walk

1029
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: up I mean it was like a three or four

1030
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: hour infill straight up this mountain. We had to kind

1031
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 1: of get an overwatch position to have commanding control over

1032
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: some people maneuvering down in the valley, and one of

1033
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 1: my dudes carried up a Barrett fifty cow all the

1034
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: way up this mountain. He strapped into his back and

1035
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: he just went total beast mode. But we got up there.

1036
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, guys like Tom were flying up overhead,

1037
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: and you know, there were just times where you're like,

1038
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if I picked the right profession right now,

1039
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:43,720
Speaker 1: I could have been Yeah, it was probably of yours.

1040
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: Knew the impact of that fifty that it was worth

1041
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: putting on his back. He wanted, he wanted to get

1042
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: it up there, and it was like, man, you're you're

1043
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: taking one for the team right now. And that was

1044
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: a wild and crazy day. But but yeah, it's those

1045
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 1: fundamentals they still apply, you know, even in two thousand.

1046
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: At that time, two thousand and eighteen, there was no

1047
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: technology that I'll save you from having to carry heavy stuff. Now,

1048
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: my dad taught me just always hold it around the

1049
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: ring of your rifle, like right around the base of it,

1050
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 1: right there, and just shuffle on and as a young man,

1051
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: like that's what I was indoctrinated with growing up, right

1052
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,399
Speaker 1: Like I was in an armory growing up at eight, nine, ten,

1053
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: twelve years old, and I'd sit there and flip through

1054
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: reels of old like models that someone would put together

1055
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 1: for the military, and you'd have to like identify like

1056
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,280
Speaker 1: tea tanks and like different RPGs and all this warsaw

1057
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: pack stuff. So that's my that's my generation. So anyone

1058
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 1: out there listening, I grew up in the in the

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Speaker 1: eighties in a Special Forces armory. Well stup, let's get

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Speaker 1: a drink. Okay. So I've had a lot of your time.

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Speaker 1: I think you guys are great to have on the show,

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Speaker 1: and we'll always have you in our rolodex of you know,

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Speaker 1: reach out and have you come on maybe tell some

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Speaker 1: more stories and talk about you know, successes and what

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Speaker 1: Victory Base is up to moving forward. I really appreciate

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Speaker 1: you guys taking the time out of your busy Sunday

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Speaker 1: to come and sit here and talk with me about

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Speaker 1: helping veterans find peace of mind in investing and putting

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Speaker 1: out a roup over their head. I'll give you any Tom,

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Speaker 1: I'll let you go ahead and and say anything, and

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Speaker 1: then we'll go with Justin and then we'll close out. Now.

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Speaker 1: I truly appreciate you. Everything you've done and great podcast.

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Speaker 1: Everything you've done here has been amazing, incredible, So I

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Speaker 1: really do appreciate it. And the offer to go fly

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Speaker 1: is actually absolutely a hundred percent open true. It's here

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Speaker 1: here Tom, the Internet, it's here forever. Come do it

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Speaker 1: because it'll give me a great excuse to go fly

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Speaker 1: into so it'll be a ton of fun, look forward

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Speaker 1: to perfect I would love that. No, so the offer

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Speaker 1: stamps for me too. If you want to go, you

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Speaker 1: let me know. But no, this is cool, man, I

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Speaker 1: really appreciate. I love what you're doing here. I think

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Speaker 1: for me it's awesome to stay connected with the veteran community.

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Speaker 1: And obviously appreciation to Tom for bringing me on board.

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Speaker 1: But I think what we're doing here, we're in a

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Speaker 1: position to have a huge impact. You know, this isn't

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Speaker 1: like a short term thing. We're looking at this big picture,

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Speaker 1: long term huge change to the way people view home

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Speaker 1: ownership in the way they pursue options out of the market.

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Speaker 1: So looking forward to and yeah, and thanks a lot

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Speaker 1: for having us on. Hey, you're very welcome. And that's

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Speaker 1: Victory based dot com right, that's where they can go

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Speaker 1: check it out. Okay, perfect, Well, I just want to

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Speaker 1: say thank you on behalf of Tom and Justin and

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Speaker 1: all of you veterans out there that give my show

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Speaker 1: a chance and you listen to it. And if you

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Speaker 1: have anything that you want to say or comment down below,

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Speaker 1: you know how to go and subscribe and hit all

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Speaker 1: those notifications. But last and not least, I just thank

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Speaker 1: you for listening, and thanks to Brandon Webb for always

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Speaker 1: believing in me to host this podcast on softwrep dot com.

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Speaker 1: And it's going to be all over the place on

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Speaker 1: YouTube and anywhere your favorite podcasts have found. So again,

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Speaker 1: thanks to my guest Justin and Tom Paklin Victory based

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Speaker 1: dot com. And my name is Rad sayin peace you've

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Speaker 1: been listening to self Recreatia