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Speaker 1: First of all, man, we appreciate you bro. You know, man,

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Speaker 1: we're seeing these big moves you've been making. Stopped that

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Speaker 1: we appreciate you. Back on the show, man, you a

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Speaker 1: repeat of offender. Yeah you know, yeah, I've been found.

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Speaker 1: We definitely had to get you back on this mob.

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Speaker 1: But the last time we asked you, who was the

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Speaker 1: first person to bust your ass? This time we're gonna

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Speaker 1: ask you who's the first person asked you bust when

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Speaker 1: you got to the league? Oh? Do you remember that?

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Speaker 2: Is the question?

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Speaker 1: Remember that first big game as you swerving and who

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Speaker 3: Again, it wasn't like the first big game, but I

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Speaker 3: remember the first big moment for me, and that was

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Speaker 3: when I did that was behind the back on Aaron McKie. Oh,

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Speaker 3: I was in the game, and that's footage of I

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Speaker 3: just watched it, and that was like one of the

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Speaker 3: first moments where I was like, whatchuck said to you?

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Speaker 3: He just looked at me acknowledgement. He acknowledged by looking

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Speaker 3: at me. I'm like, oh man, my hero like looked

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Speaker 3: at me like that's all we needed. That's it. So

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Speaker 3: for me, that was like the first big moment where

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Speaker 3: I was like, dang, I can go back to my hood,

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Speaker 3: like man, you see that you see that movie. So

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Speaker 3: that was the first one.

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Speaker 4: Yo, yo yo, We live on location, were in that

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Speaker 4: at l Shorty. We came down here for a special

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Speaker 4: special visit.

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Speaker 5: Man, my man young mal.

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Speaker 4: Jamal Crawford, our family member is in town. So we

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Speaker 4: had to pull up on him and get some of

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Speaker 4: his thoughts on this here season because it's spicy.

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Speaker 5: He big time, so you know, he pulled up with us.

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Speaker 4: Man, we appreciate the time, y'all to repeat offender Knuckleheads

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Speaker 4: in the building, Your served dogs presented by Sleeper. You know,

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Speaker 4: we all Clippers here. You know what I'm saying that

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Speaker 4: that's probably yeah, that was probably we had. We did

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Speaker 4: a little bus, we got a little something going. But

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Speaker 4: like I'm feeling like that was the best time, like

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Speaker 4: the clip of history where it was like Doc Tange's

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Speaker 4: arena was looking like a Clippers home. Then like all

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Speaker 4: of that stuff together and y'all was going to the

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Speaker 4: actual playoffs and man, CP Blake, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 4: talk about being on the team with the point gud

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Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying, and then Blake Griffin

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Speaker 4: coming in and he people don't really put.

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Speaker 5: That respect where it desserve.

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Speaker 1: But I feel like he had the whole league.

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Speaker 5: When he first came through and he had it on smash.

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Speaker 2: It was a dream come true.

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Speaker 3: And it's from the standpoint like this much talent, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: at this time in this place where we can kind

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Speaker 3: of write our own history, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: Like it was we really believe he was gonna win

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Speaker 3: a championship, Like that was the single focus was winning championship.

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Speaker 3: And looking back, I'm not sure we're mentally ready to

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Speaker 3: win a championship. And I think our youth took a

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Speaker 3: shot at us. I'll be back, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 3: because our best players are young. Blake and CP was young.

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Speaker 3: DJ's young. But it's like I think, honestly, we're one

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Speaker 3: of the best teams never won a championship.

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Speaker 2: We had so much talent.

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Speaker 3: We had, like I think we want the second most

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Speaker 3: games over a five year span behind maybe the Spurs

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Speaker 2: So we was like we gonna win a championship. We

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Speaker 3: If you look at the roster, look at the roster,

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Speaker 3: go back with the rosters and then Doc who just

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Speaker 3: won a championship and eight, like we had everything, two everything,

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Speaker 3: and it was just like, man, why couldn't we get

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Speaker 3: over the hump? And that part was frustrating when you

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Speaker 3: look back at it, but I wouldn't trade it for nothing.

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Speaker 3: Like everywhere I go from coaching or whatever, people always

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Speaker 3: identified me with the Lob City clips.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I'm.

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Speaker 3: Saying, and like they put my game on fully displayed

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Speaker 3: because I was with the Knicks with you obviously, and

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Speaker 3: that's the Knicks, but we weren't winning like that.

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Speaker 3: I'm in Chicago, we ain't winning like that. I'm in

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Speaker 3: Atlanta and we're doing well, but it's not like a

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Speaker 3: national team. So that was like the perfect storm. So

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Speaker 3: for me, that put my full game on display. It

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Speaker 3: kind of introduced my game to everybody who wasn't just

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Speaker 3: he's so smart.

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Speaker 2: He sees things in.

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Speaker 3: A whole different color, like a whole different thing, you

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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. He's always thinking later on the game.

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Speaker 4: How is it for you? Like being a teammate of

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Speaker 4: he is for them years and y'all was in literal

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Speaker 4: battles with the words how is it for you when

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Speaker 4: you got traded to them? And like is this gonna happen?

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Speaker 4: Like even now, how is it if you're seeing him

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Speaker 4: playing with this so weird? I heard him say you

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Speaker 4: could told me ten years ago, you know where you

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Speaker 4: could have tel.

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Speaker 5: I heard say the same thing.

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Speaker 3: We were the last team to put the Warriors out

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Speaker 3: before they won their championship run.

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Speaker 1: And I saw the battle.

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Speaker 3: I remember like Steph being the little bro in the

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Speaker 3: State Farm commercial CPM. You know what I'm saying, Like,

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Speaker 3: so to see them together, it's crazy. And I just

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Speaker 3: and it's just weird. Even seeing him in that color

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Speaker 3: don't look right, you know what I'm saying, Like, it

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Speaker 3: just looked weird. But going back to what you said,

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Speaker 3: not to forget about Blake, Blake is probably like top

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Speaker 3: shelf people I've ever played with it seen in person.

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Speaker 3: Blake is at as good as he was that people saw.

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Speaker 3: He was still underrated because people didn't see how he

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Speaker 3: how he could do everything on the court and like

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Speaker 3: he to me is a future Hall of Famer because

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Speaker 3: Blake can literally man Bro. He's jumping over cards Bro

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Speaker 3: And that wasn't even his best attribute. Like the way

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Speaker 3: he played when we played the Spurs, which was the

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Speaker 3: toughest series I ever played in, he was far and

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Speaker 3: away with the best player in the series.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't even close.

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Speaker 3: And to me, that's when he put the world on

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Speaker 3: display his whole game, Like, Blake was ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Last time we talked to you, it was around the bubble,

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Speaker 3: It's been four years. That's crazy that it should be

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Speaker 1: Checking he got to get on k a lot of times.

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Speaker 1: So it was the bubbling, you know how how the

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Speaker 1: the bubble and that time do for you after that?

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Speaker 1: Like what did you come off of that and learn?

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Speaker 1: Because you was trying to get back in basketball still

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Speaker 1: and you was trying to move around. But after that happened,

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Speaker 1: what was the movie for you? What was your thought

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Speaker 3: I think it put everything in perspective and just the

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Speaker 3: world and not knowing like what was next? We didn't

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Speaker 3: It wasn't your family, So it was just like a

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Speaker 3: whole time. And then my focus kind of shifted from

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: It was a different feel, and so I still wanted

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Speaker 3: next year, because we talked about it, we had a program, everything.

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Speaker 3: But it's almost gratifying, like even though I got hurt

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Speaker 3: like I was when I was there the last time,

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Speaker 3: and I hadn't played in sixteen months. So for me,

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Speaker 3: I was like I still show I could hoop at forty,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. It was almost like gratifying

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Speaker 1: I'm like, nah, I showed you know, we want to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, showed dedication to these young dudes are trying to

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Speaker 3: guide their way the charunselor verts. You know what I'm

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Speaker 3: saying in those guys in the world, to show them,

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Speaker 3: you know what, just because I'm not Hoop and I'm

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Speaker 3: still here with y'all and they need a leadership and guys,

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Speaker 4: The last game you played in officially, you scored how

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Speaker 4: many points for Phoenix?

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Speaker 1: Yah?

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Speaker 3: For the that's Phoenix. It was Phoenix, right, fifty one

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Speaker 3: five assists off the bench. That's his last game in

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Speaker 3: a real like arena.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, before you continue, you ever hear fifty in the league?

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Speaker 1: No league? This man, last game? How old was you?

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Speaker 4: that's a walking bucket.

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Speaker 2: It was crazy.

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Speaker 4: It was crazy because just to be able to say that,

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Speaker 5: Saying, that's a swag.

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Speaker 4: Like my last game that I ever played in, I

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Speaker 5: I had eleven rebounds up on the court.

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Speaker 1: That was a playoff game.

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Speaker 4: I hadn't played the whole season neither. I was gone,

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Speaker 4: But like that's the last.

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Speaker 1: Game, I think my last time.

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Speaker 5: I'm fifty is nuts.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if I played or no, that

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Speaker 1: up to see, like, we know you ain't top Kobe

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Speaker 1: because no, second, that's it was.

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Speaker 3: It was crazy because my highest scoring month in my career,

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Speaker 3: Clipper Days, Bulls Days, Next Days was that month. That

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Speaker 3: It's a short month and we won half the games

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Speaker 3: and it was I was thirty nine. Yeah, so it

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Speaker 3: was crazy because I honestly, looking back and be reflective,

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Speaker 3: I honestly feel like God was like, you know what,

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Speaker 3: you were so good to the game. You never choose

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Speaker 3: I could send you out.

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Speaker 1: Do you hate when teams make the decision for players

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Speaker 1: instead of the players making decisions for theyself of how

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Speaker 1: long they want to play or what's the extension of

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Speaker 1: what they want to play?

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Speaker 2: Someone's like agism in a way, right.

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Speaker 3: And it's crazy because and Q point this out before

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Speaker 3: I even really thought about it. I think last time

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Speaker 3: come into the game, leave a totally different player. If

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Speaker 3: you came in with Milton Duncan, you're not really leaving

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Speaker 3: like that. Lebron's yeah, Vincent Lebron right, And I actually

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Speaker 3: played the exact same way the whole time. And so

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Speaker 3: what I thought about, like I said, I've had time now,

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Speaker 3: is you're not supposed to be able to do those

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Speaker 4: That's why his nickname is young Mall because right now

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Speaker 1: Likely did he got missing?

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Speaker 5: He did?

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Speaker 3: He was Charlie, he's been missing. You see, it's been quiet.

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Speaker 3: I was like, let's do it. You gotta put an

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Speaker 1: I think know how like how really tall you is

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Speaker 2: No, like for real and nah? So how did all

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Speaker 5: Did he?

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Speaker 4: Like? Why did he just take back your name out

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Speaker 2: He thought Joe Johnson kind of he said.

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Speaker 2: So I was like, oh, it's cool.

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Speaker 2: He was like hello, Jamal, like he was nervous.

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Speaker 4: So once you pulled up, yeah, I said, say.

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Speaker 5: You don't know you really a gymret and you were

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Speaker 4: You balling anyway when I heard, like, I'm all the

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Speaker 2: Because I don't bother nobody.

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Speaker 3: I'm quiet. I don't say that nobody. But now that

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Speaker 4: Last thing you want. I would challenge him. And five

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Speaker 1: A better one on one.

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Speaker 2: Your Philly crew versus my seat whatever, that's a better.

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Speaker 1: Like, that's not a chance.

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Speaker 4: You get no breaks, it's just you and him. If

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Speaker 1: You want to score.

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Speaker 4: Unless he give you first ball, you ain't getting the

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Speaker 4: don't see what he could type in his name and

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Speaker 4: watch his IOLs in the GUNBA game. This is under coaching.

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Speaker 4: When certain supposed to do this in the gym one

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Speaker 1: Man. Sometimes a lot of retired player after they kind

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Speaker 1: of put that ball down, they don't really touch that

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Speaker 3: So for me, it was to get myself a mental

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Speaker 3: it's good, Like I'm at peace with it. Like I

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Speaker 4: Tell the people out there, like for the people, because

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Speaker 5: I said all the time. Me and D talk about.

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Speaker 4: It as pro athletes, right, were the only profession if

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Speaker 1: They getting paid.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, bro, we the only profession that you make it

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Speaker 4: And then they don't want you to bring your credentials

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Speaker 4: that you had from here with you and tell you

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Speaker 4: like you gotta humble yourself. You gotta come walk through

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Speaker 4: trying to be that big NBA player that you were,

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Speaker 4: and all talk about how hard it is to figure

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Speaker 4: you figure out what's next, like you steal can hook

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Speaker 4: you like I can't hoop fuck like that, Like you

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Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, talk about how that struggle if

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Speaker 4: we all deal with it, it just it happens in

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Speaker 4: different ways. Like we always say, everybody can't get that

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Speaker 4: d Wade farewell to it where they you know, you

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Speaker 4: get get praised with a lot of us just get

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Speaker 1: She I guess that's.

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Speaker 5: Just talk about that.

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Speaker 3: It was crazy and going back to what you said,

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Speaker 3: like you can kind of be like I'm slowing down

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Speaker 3: We're realistic with each other and realistic with ourselves minds.

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Speaker 3: Was a fifty one point game, and take away the

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Speaker 3: basketball part before that, I want Teammate of the Year

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Speaker 3: in the whole league. Like that's not something you're trying

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Speaker 2: That's more your character.

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Speaker 3: And I was more proud of about that than any

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Speaker 3: of the six mans because it's like you're not trying

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Speaker 3: still like kind of we ain't touching him, like out

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Speaker 3: It's days you're like, what's next, because you can have

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Speaker 3: it all together. I talked to Grant Hill about this

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Speaker 3: right and sometimes we turn to bad things. Sometimes we

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Speaker 3: and it was amazing because I've been doing camps, I've

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Speaker 3: I'm cool enough for you to get my advice from,

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Speaker 4: I could eventually, like the role that UD has in Miami.

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Speaker 4: I think that should be a permanent role for everything.

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Speaker 4: Do you know how much better the league would be

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Speaker 4: if that was it? Because it's league wide a lot

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Speaker 4: of the OG, not even OG. But like, I guess

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Speaker 4: you could say, Vets they be twenty four now, so

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Speaker 3: Himself, bro, the Vets that I had changed my career. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Charles Oakley straight up. Rick Brunson, Kendall Gill, Like, no,

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Speaker 3: being on time is being an hour and a half early.

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Speaker 3: You know, I eat McDonald's before games. You're wearing two

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Speaker 3: at the time, past that without the vets. And it's

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Speaker 3: Who was the VET mephis. There wasn't a vet mephis

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Speaker 3: when when that's that same situation. So now I'm saying

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Speaker 3: have seen it coming and kind of like yo, yoll,

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Speaker 3: slow down a little bit, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 3: and just make him think.

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Speaker 1: Of the respect is gone, Like you can have a vet,

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Speaker 1: but then you got ahead the guys to respect him

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Speaker 2: And if there's only one, he's he's out number.

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Speaker 3: It's fourteen of us acting the food, doing what we

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Speaker 1: I feel like I can't coach because I don't have

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Speaker 1: the patience for coach. And not only do I feel

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Speaker 1: like I don't have the patience, I got a coach

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Speaker 1: at a certain level, like I can't. I don't think

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Speaker 1: I can start off with the fundamentals. How some coaches can.

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Speaker 1: You know, the younger they is, the more and more

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Speaker 1: patience you act to have. Where you find that patience

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Speaker 1: to deal with the kids, the kids who don't know

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Speaker 1: the fundamental some of the kids who didn't grow up

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Speaker 1: where you you find a patience to be a coach?

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Speaker 3: I think I've always had patience, but I think within

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Speaker 3: just learned right there? They don't know it, but it's

441
00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,320
Speaker 3: gonna stick with them forever. They will remember that moment

442
00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,040
Speaker 3: forever and the joy within that and seeing the like

443
00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:40,320
Speaker 3: the curiosity they have and seeing where they're going to

444
00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:40,679
Speaker 3: take it.

445
00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:42,960
Speaker 2: Oh, that did that? Okay, Well what's next?

446
00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,760
Speaker 3: And it's like it's continuing to grow and evolve, and

447
00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,160
Speaker 3: that you can see their mind physically opening it up,

448
00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,399
Speaker 3: And to me, that's one of the coolest things because

449
00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,120
Speaker 3: you know that you left the impren on that kid.

450
00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:54,240
Speaker 3: And there's so many of them, right, and I treat

451
00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:55,840
Speaker 3: them all like my son, even though I'm the one.

452
00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,119
Speaker 4: Coach speaking on that, right, you saying like how you

453
00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,240
Speaker 4: getting to see that? In different things? Like are you

454
00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:01,400
Speaker 4: coaching your own son?

455
00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:01,840
Speaker 1: JJ?

456
00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:06,640
Speaker 4: And y'all don't know go googling young boy, got game.

457
00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:10,439
Speaker 4: I don't want to get you work.

458
00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,400
Speaker 5: Young fella. Like, tell me how is that to sit

459
00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:14,159
Speaker 5: and watch?

460
00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,520
Speaker 4: Like yo, mini me Like I'm seeing YouTube, so I

461
00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,440
Speaker 4: know you see way you see everything, like the flashes,

462
00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,200
Speaker 4: just like how does that feel when you watch him

463
00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,520
Speaker 4: just hooping? How he hooping? How does that feel to

464
00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:27,240
Speaker 4: see your own son going like that?

465
00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:28,320
Speaker 1: Young deal?

466
00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's surreal, to be honest with you. I was

467
00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,800
Speaker 3: in the gym with him and d Book was coming

468
00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:36,520
Speaker 3: to Seattle. It's coming to pro am and support, and

469
00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,919
Speaker 3: d Book facetimed me and I missed it because I

470
00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:40,640
Speaker 3: was in the gym and I'm like, hold up, Book,

471
00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:41,280
Speaker 3: just face timing.

472
00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:42,480
Speaker 2: So JJ came in the camera.

473
00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,879
Speaker 3: Of course he's he's a fan, So I FaceTime in

474
00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:46,280
Speaker 3: back and he's like Books, like what you doing.

475
00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:47,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm in the gym. He's like, I'm gonna

476
00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:47,880
Speaker 2: be there.

477
00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:49,200
Speaker 3: Later on the day, I want to get in the

478
00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:50,880
Speaker 3: gym a little bro And I'm not one that would

479
00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,440
Speaker 3: ever like ask my son to work out with a pro.

480
00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,360
Speaker 3: I would ask could he come watch you work out?

481
00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,919
Speaker 3: Just be fly on the wall and see it. And

482
00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:59,720
Speaker 3: that was one of the most proud moments when I

483
00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,119
Speaker 3: would was just a dad and they worked out and

484
00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,200
Speaker 3: I'm just watching and JJ. Obviously Book is one of

485
00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,240
Speaker 3: the best in the world, but JJ is actually keeping

486
00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,000
Speaker 3: up with the actual drills right, and even Book is surprised,

487
00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:11,600
Speaker 3: and they're just doing whatever Book wants to do. He

488
00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,320
Speaker 3: brought his trainer and just as a dad, I'm like, wow,

489
00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:18,159
Speaker 3: like and since that day, his whole JJ's whole mindset

490
00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,679
Speaker 3: has changed. Like cause when I'm coaching, I'm not a

491
00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,160
Speaker 3: guy who played twenty years. I'm his dad. So for him,

492
00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,480
Speaker 3: it's like, Dad, whatever you whatever, you know, you listen

493
00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,040
Speaker 3: to me. But it's a different feeling when one of

494
00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,560
Speaker 3: your favorite players are saying the same thing. It resonates

495
00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,439
Speaker 3: differently different. And so to see his mind open up

496
00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,760
Speaker 3: to that and see how his work and his mind

497
00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,119
Speaker 3: has changed, He's like, he wants it now and what

498
00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:38,919
Speaker 3: it takes to get it.

499
00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,200
Speaker 4: You just for showing me before we got on how

500
00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:42,520
Speaker 4: you built the court in the crib.

501
00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,280
Speaker 5: Dope ass court in the crib.

502
00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,720
Speaker 4: But like like you said the other day, he was

503
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,520
Speaker 4: just sitting in the gym like he just want to

504
00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,520
Speaker 4: be in there, like working out, getting his game on.

505
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 4: But even when he ain't working, he just want to

506
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:55,760
Speaker 4: sit there and be in there.

507
00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,520
Speaker 1: Like, how did that make you feel? To know that? Like,

508
00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,399
Speaker 1: my son really liked me? He a gym rat, was

509
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:01,080
Speaker 1: I am?

510
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,720
Speaker 3: The gym came because he had like a little court

511
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 3: in his room and I'm gonna see I'm gonna show

512
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,400
Speaker 3: you the video after this. He had a little court

513
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,400
Speaker 3: in his room and he's in there playing. There's no rim,

514
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 3: so he and there like that. So here and they're

515
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:18,560
Speaker 3: going one on one by himself with no rim. He said, Wow,

516
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 3: he really loves it, loves it like you.

517
00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,640
Speaker 1: Know you're real hooping when you got the imaginary.

518
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:29,919
Speaker 3: Ball, that's that's where came from. You see somebody, you

519
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,159
Speaker 3: see iris like how can I remix that? And the

520
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,199
Speaker 3: imagination just takes over. But he's doing himself, and so

521
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,520
Speaker 3: for me, I'm like, okay, we're building the court, and

522
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 3: that part of it is like all the young players

523
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,680
Speaker 3: that he told me about John Moran, he told me

524
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 3: about the Thompson Twins, Like he's telling me about all

525
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 3: these kids.

526
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Speaker 1: Bro.

527
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,119
Speaker 3: He's a sponge and he loves the game and he

528
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 3: wants to get better. And now you see him be

529
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,200
Speaker 3: coming because he's a nice kid and he's light skinned,

530
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 3: so you know you're gonna get tested. But you see

531
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,639
Speaker 3: him like, nah, I'm here, and his game has always

532
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,119
Speaker 3: been there, but now he's like, no, I'm here, no

533
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 3: matter if I'm younger or not.

534
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:03,640
Speaker 2: I want it. And it's dope to see.

535
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,679
Speaker 3: And I'm blessing that way because I don't know how

536
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 3: much I love the game and so our connections on

537
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 3: so much of a deeper level because of that.

538
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,880
Speaker 4: Right now, you you know, like he's big time. Y'all turner.

539
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. You didn't figure things out.

540
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,919
Speaker 1: Mall got male bags and stuff.

541
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 4: He holling at the fans. He holds down NBA TV.

542
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,439
Speaker 4: Sometimes he'd be on the Big Show on t n T.

543
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 4: He always want they call for one of the guys missing.

544
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 4: First up, Shorty. How do it.

545
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,160
Speaker 5: Feel, man? You be chilling with the.

546
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 4: Legendary Ernie now Hall of Fame shot Chuck Kenny, Like

547
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 4: how that feel be?

548
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,680
Speaker 5: You know, the whole bull pen zeek be up.

549
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 4: In there, everybody grig against all guys three right here, all.

550
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 5: Of that, Like how that feel to be?

551
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 4: Like, you know, for coming from a place where you're

552
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 4: trying to figure shit out. Then you know what I'm saying,

553
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,680
Speaker 4: me and you do Hooper vision, but then phone start

554
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:57,239
Speaker 4: blowing up.

555
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,639
Speaker 3: It's it's not even real for real. Because this wasn't

556
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 3: the goal. I never want to do media, and not

557
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,880
Speaker 3: because I had something against it. I just that wasn't

558
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 3: my focus. I thought I'd be a gem I love.

559
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 3: I'll go to La Fitis and put teams together just

560
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 3: to balance it out. And I thought that's how I'd

561
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 3: be doing, you know what I'm saying. So I got

562
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 3: offer as a coach, and then I got offers for that,

563
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,880
Speaker 3: but I was already entrenched with the kids. I wasn't

564
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 3: leaving that. I wasn't leaving home. I'm like, why coach,

565
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,199
Speaker 3: he's grown man who already made it. I'm trying to

566
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,719
Speaker 3: help these kids make it. You mean more. And so

567
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 3: if it wasn't for him, I wouldn't be doing others.

568
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 3: And I'm not just saying because you got.

569
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 1: To everybody time. It's the truth.

570
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 3: Like I remember where I was when you called me.

571
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 3: I was picking up the kids and I was in

572
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,879
Speaker 3: the garage line. I'm like, I may lose service, you know.

573
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 3: But he's like, no, Mom, I got something for you.

574
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 3: I think you'll be dope at it.

575
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 2: I think and other people had tried to give me

576
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 2: on TV and I was like, nah, I'll tell you

577
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:46,399
Speaker 2: a story.

578
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 5: J J.

579
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 3: Reddick, when I knew he was leaving the Ringer, He's like,

580
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 3: Mama's do a podcast. I'm like, man, I'm not even

581
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 3: that space mentally, I don't even know what I'm doing.

582
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 3: And so but Q got me in the space and

583
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 3: he was like, mall, you're gonna be good at it.

584
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 3: And how he brought me into space was perfect. There

585
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 3: wasn't no pressure, like I could do it from home.

586
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 3: We could talk the game. And what Q taught me

587
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 3: was this, we were actually carrying the game. And I

588
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 3: didn't even know what that meant. He's like, Mom, we're

589
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 3: actually carrying the game, like you know Mark or Jeff

590
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 3: or you know Mike Bring would do.

591
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 2: We're not just doing a halftime post.

592
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,640
Speaker 3: I'm like, what are you talking about now going back,

593
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 3: I'm like, whoa, that was like the best training method

594
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 3: for now in a different way. Kids when they play basketball,

595
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 3: they try to reclass. They try to play young kids.

596
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 3: When we grew up, we play older people. The method

597
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 3: he had me and was like us playing older people.

598
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 1: It's the hardest thing to do.

599
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:33,159
Speaker 2: We could do.

600
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 1: Neither one of us knew what he was doing.

601
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 3: Right at all. But we figured it out. We figured

602
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 3: out a play, and we rolled up to plan and everything.

603
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 1: Like listen, they had to listen. You remember my store.

604
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 1: They had to go here.

605
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 4: I say, man, we might need some executive produce them.

606
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 4: Like we were like we get that joint to where

607
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 4: like where we are now, like now we have a

608
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 4: real whole team, Like now the NBA has brought in,

609
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 4: we have a.

610
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 1: Team that's dope.

611
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:57,959
Speaker 4: And then before you know what we had like all right,

612
00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 4: now we got like a little situation that we know

613
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 4: now we know we do. Like after the first one,

614
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,479
Speaker 4: it was like, man, what did you think? Then at

615
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 4: the second one, it was like okay, Now the third one,

616
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 4: we was like, now we're hitting our.

617
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 1: Stride because like it just take reps.

618
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 4: But like by the time we got through, like we

619
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,120
Speaker 4: was bringing through, bro don't get like a man had

620
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 4: Q tip J Cole.

621
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 3: We brought in dope guests like Q Tip, people that

622
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 3: a lot of people couldn't get, people that people want

623
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 3: to hear from.

624
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, And don't know how big

625
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 4: of a sports like basketball.

626
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 2: Fan car to GP to t Matt to Penny.

627
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 4: Like like for real, like we were like we we

628
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,400
Speaker 4: had it cracking and like.

629
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 3: It doesn't happen. And I said that thing. I'm like, Yo,

630
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 3: you're the man. I'm just your copolot. Just tell me

631
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 3: what to do. Listen, this is a true story, true story.

632
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 3: I told him from the jump the second he agreed

633
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 3: to it. What did I say? He said, you out

634
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 3: of here? I say, watch what happen?

635
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 4: He said, Watch I say, after the very first announcement,

636
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 4: when they announced it we was doing it, I say,

637
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 4: watch what, Watch what?

638
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 5: Because I already knew who you know what I'm saying.

639
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 4: I know how he's viewed in his space, like you

640
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, just period in the NBA world,

641
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,199
Speaker 4: in the state, one of the good guys, one of

642
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 4: the dudes who know the game, all.

643
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 1: Of this different stuff.

644
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 4: But now he is like not really, but he's ringing

645
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 4: the alarm. He's signing the alarm. Bull then this is open.

646
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 1: I'm here.

647
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 4: I'm not hooping up. Because nobody knew whether he was

648
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 4: still hooping or not. That's why a lot of people

649
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 4: was like, well, they know, MA still trying to hoop.

650
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,479
Speaker 4: Ain't up. Some people probably literally didn't even try them

651
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 4: because they knew he was. Probably he just hit fifty.

652
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 5: He just didn't.

653
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:31,199
Speaker 4: He a hooper, So nothing said that. But I told him,

654
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:35,239
Speaker 4: I say, Bro, you about to go crazy right now.

655
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 4: I say, watch, I say, because everybody like you fresh out,

656
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 4: I didn't know turnering off, but I just knew when

657
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 4: you walk off the court and you steal cold like

658
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 4: he was, he's still some fans favorite Hooper. So you

659
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like when you walk off the quarter,

660
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 4: you still possess that, you articulate, you respect it.

661
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

662
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 4: You know what you told you got all these different things.

663
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 4: You was a bad motherfucker on the court. That's the

664
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 4: biggest and baddest part, Like you really could do this

665
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 4: and then you could do.

666
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 5: The other things.

667
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: It's over. It's over.

668
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 4: I say, You're gonna I say your phone. I'm not

669
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 4: gonna stop ringing, bro. So first one I came in,

670
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 4: he was like, damn, bro, I think it's starting to

671
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 4: happen right now.

672
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 3: He said it because I didn't see. I didn't want to.

673
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 3: This wasn't my goal, so I didn't see. I didn't

674
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 3: know nothing right, I didn't know what. I didn't know either.

675
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 3: And he was like, now you're out of here, I'm

676
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 3: telling you. And I was like, so you being in

677
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 3: the space, So thank you to this brother right here,

678
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 3: because honestly, it would not have happened.

679
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: That's what's up. You've been in the space. Now you're

680
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: getting the opportunity to be with an Emmy winning cast.

681
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,360
Speaker 1: You done been to podcast all the way to national

682
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 1: recognized show. What's your perspective of it? Like like the

683
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: media now you know now that you're a part of

684
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: it and you moving and grooving into all these areas.

685
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: What you think about the media in the sense now.

686
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 3: I think, to be honest with you, we have a

687
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 3: responsibility and that's to be authentic. I think we have

688
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 3: responsibility to grow the game. I think we have responsibility

689
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 3: to tell the truth without tearing somebody down. And for

690
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 3: me and all of us. I feel like we absolutely

691
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 3: are on that path. And I don't want to be

692
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 3: the dude who says something that everybody talked about for

693
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 3: five minutes and that's it. I want to be great,

694
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 3: and so with that, I want to be great in

695
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 3: every facet.

696
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 2: Like you said, I got the mailbag. I came in

697
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 2: as an analyst.

698
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 3: Now I'm hosting you know, Crawford's couch where I have

699
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 3: people pop on, and now I'm commentating game. So I

700
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 3: want to be better at this than I was hooping,

701
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 3: because I feel like hooping I was an acquired taste.

702
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 3: You know, everybody didn't like my game. It wasn't for everybody,

703
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 3: but the ones who rock with it rock with it.

704
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 3: In this space, I think I can connect more people.

705
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 3: Even the person who didn't like my game may like

706
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 3: how I view something, or it may make sense to

707
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 3: them something they didn't understand.

708
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 2: So for me, we have a responsibility.

709
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 3: But I also think if you're authentic, I think being

710
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 3: good at something lasts longer than being hot.

711
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

712
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 4: The biggest thing you said there to me was like

713
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 4: as form of hoopers, as form of players who really

714
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 4: was in the league, and we part of that fraternity we,

715
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 4: like D said, I think you know, we got to

716
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 4: a point to where we even acknowledged and seen. We

717
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 4: didn't see it at first when because you don't know

718
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 4: when you're first doing something. But like we have a

719
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 4: responsibility for sure, like not just to be here, but

720
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 4: like you said, to be able to be here in

721
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 4: this space and not tear our brothers down.

722
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: That's the real responsibility.

723
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 4: Be able to sit here and we could talk a

724
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 4: to Z whatever NBA player you want to talk about,

725
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 4: and we can be constructive and be helpful as far

726
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 4: as like its criticism is, point things out. But we're

727
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 4: not about to be out here tearing each other down

728
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 4: and just talking shit and dogging each other just to

729
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 4: be That's not what we're here for. That's not what

730
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 4: because it's gonna be a clippable moment. We don't do

731
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 4: that with I guess we don't do that with our

732
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 4: comments when we're talking about the dudes either, even when

733
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 4: it's situation is just real easy to go ahead like that.

734
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 4: We all been there, so why the fuck would we

735
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 4: do somebody else like that? When we was in that

736
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 4: position and we was waiting to see who's gonna say

737
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 4: some shit. So because we want to say something back

738
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 4: to him, we're not about to do.

739
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 3: That because I've seen now on this side, I've seen

740
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 3: when that camera's on people earning somebody else that cameras

741
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 3: like the seat makes them hot, when they like, I

742
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 3: gotta say something crazy, Now, you don't just be you

743
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, something that's not ever gonna move me.

744
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 3: That's never gonna you know, persuade me to do something

745
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 3: I'm i supposed to do. I'm always be honest, I

746
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 3: always be fair, and I'm always be objective and always

747
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 3: be real, you know what I'm saying, Like you can

748
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 3: still get a point across without be little on.

749
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 4: Somebody tell me this right, because I had these type

750
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,959
Speaker 4: of moments too, like when you first got up the

751
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 4: turner and you started to be there regularly, Like when

752
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 4: you first did the Big show fucking you sit in

753
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 4: the opposite shaq Ernie Chuck, Like, how was that for you?

754
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 4: Like I know we all do it, like what type

755
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 4: of nervous moments did you? Like, God, and then talk

756
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 4: about how like it instantly melts away because they just

757
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 4: super cool and make it super easy for you.

758
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 3: My first moment was my first time on Turner was

759
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 3: when I filled in for Chuck. And if you go

760
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 3: back and watch Kenny act like.

761
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 2: He dropped a pin, have to beat you to the boy.

762
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 3: I was so nervous before, Bro, I was so nervous

763
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 3: before the moment with the show. Ill let me get

764
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,479
Speaker 3: it for you, and that was a real moment. But

765
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 3: when that happened to your point, Q, everything went away.

766
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 3: I'm like, Oh, we're just chilling. Okay, it's just a

767
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 3: camera there, but we're just chilling. We at the barber shop.

768
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 3: And so when I went in with that mindset, it

769
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 3: was like, oh, we're just chilling. So the rest was

770
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 3: easy because then your personality comes out. Then you're really

771
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 3: just up there talking to your knowledge come up.

772
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all that like.

773
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 2: You really just the game is the most important thing.

774
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 4: I tell people all the time, Like when he was

775
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 4: doing it, because he had some decisions to make about

776
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,719
Speaker 4: and he hit me and I told I have been

777
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 4: a trying I say, yo.

778
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my mentor that's negative.

779
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 4: I told, I say, I, you know, not hating on

780
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 4: any other networks. So none of that stuff, I say, Bro,

781
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 4: we all love to be able to be around the

782
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 4: rest of us. And be part of the group and

783
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,239
Speaker 4: just talk talk shop, just just kick the shit and

784
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 4: just kicking. Like for me, that was the best part

785
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 4: of being at Turner, you know what I'm saying, Like

786
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 4: when you go to the little bullpen before everybody go

787
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 4: to the different shows and stuff and do this, and

788
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 4: this is when it was probably at its most crowded.

789
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 4: It'll be deep in there, bro Like, and that's what

790
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 4: I knew. Like when he was asked, I was like, Bro,

791
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 4: were talking about whatever going on, the storylines, the games, whatever,

792
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 4: and it's like, dog like, this is the dopest shit ever,

793
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 4: Like Charles right there, Like GP might have just came through.

794
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: Like anybody say like, oh shit.

795
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 4: Then sometimes players be coming through that they're like in

796
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 4: the league. Now, it's just like you a hooper, Bro,

797
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 4: It's just a dope situation.

798
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

799
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 2: It's dope. It's dope. It's one and it's one of

800
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 2: a kind.

801
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 3: Like last night Vince was there, He's like it just different, Bro,

802
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 3: It's just different. Like the whole viod. We end there

803
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 3: playing music, we dj and we just like it's just dope,

804
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Like we in the locker room.

805
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 3: They cater to the plug. Yah, it's dope.

806
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 4: They tell me this, like, first of all, he liked

807
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 4: the unofficial Mayle of Seattle.

808
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

809
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 4: So with the Crossover League, tell me how did it

810
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 4: get to like you said, you know, book came through,

811
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 4: how did it get to like now you a destination

812
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 4: and it something you didn't have from the chet home

813
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 4: grins to the Pallo So like you had Lebron J

814
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 4: Tatum come through. Bro, it's like just Lebron period. You're

815
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 4: don't getting no bigger than that? Like what are you

816
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 4: doing when you get word like, oh it's going down?

817
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 4: Because I know you, like me, you more height than

818
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 4: the fancies. You excited for the city, for your you know,

819
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 4: for them to get the experience it Like how are

820
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 4: you when you get these calls in these text saying man,

821
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 4: it's about to happen, and then how do you put

822
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 4: it out there and for the people to know? Because

823
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 4: I've seen how the gym b when it's like you

824
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 4: got lines, you got all types.

825
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,479
Speaker 2: Of stuff going on. It's crazy because we grew it.

826
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 3: I took over in two thousand and five and it

827
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 3: was Doug Christie's at the time, and he was like,

828
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 3: I'm getting further in the league. I want to you know,

829
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 3: you got it. I know you're gonna do right by it.

830
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 3: You played it and you actually care about it. You're

831
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,719
Speaker 3: gonna be here to support it. And so for the

832
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 3: first we went from gym to gym. So it's hard.

833
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 3: And this wasn't social media, so it's hard to keep

834
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 3: like a following. One weekend we're here, one weekend, we're here.

835
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 3: It wasn't like a home. Then we went to a

836
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 3: high school, my high school, and we kind of start

837
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 3: getting more people. We went to a community center and

838
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 3: got more people. I'm like, okay, we got to go

839
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 3: to college. And we went there the first summer. It

840
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 3: was Blake Griffin, John Wall and Katie and Katie was

841
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 3: either fresh off of MVP and it was his first

842
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 3: time back in Seattles and Sonics that left and that's

843
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 3: what really just made it explode.

844
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 2: That's what took it to like worldwide level.

845
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 3: And I remember talking to keV at the time and

846
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 3: he was like, man, this was the best day I

847
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 3: had all summer.

848
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 2: I needed a day like this.

849
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 3: And so when he came out, let me tell you

850
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 3: a story about that, a backstory, keV.

851
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 2: We get him out safe.

852
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 3: The americ couldn't even get in, by the way, the

853
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 3: official Mayer could not get in the gym. Know, America

854
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 3: not get in the gym. Because we get Katie out safely.

855
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 3: Katie stops his car. Yeah, because it was pandemonium. He

856
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 3: stops his car and signs the autograph in the middle

857
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 3: of the street for thirty minutes where all the fans

858
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 3: could touch him, take a picture. And we just sitting

859
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 3: there and it was crazy to see that, and it

860
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 3: just grew from there. Now a video games want to

861
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 3: be apart, body Armour wants to be a part, you know,

862
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 3: Adidas at the time wanted to be a part, and

863
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 3: you have all these things happening. And I always say,

864
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 3: like best promotion is its selling itself. So it was

865
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 3: doing so well on the people. I mean, we got

866
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 3: to get up there. So most of the people that came,

867
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 3: they hit me to come. It wasn't me saying, yo,

868
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 3: would you come up here? It was them. And so

869
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 3: the Lebron situation though when he confirmed, I told the team,

870
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 3: it's only five of us, myself, Ves, Dave Ak and

871
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,240
Speaker 3: my nephew Anthony and I said, once we hit this button,

872
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 3: nothing's going to be the same. So just remember this

873
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 3: moment right now before we hit this button, when he's coming.

874
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 3: And when we did it, there was people out there.

875
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 3: We hit the button at three thirty I think West

876
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 3: Coast time. There's people outside in the line. At four o'clock.

877
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 3: The game wasn't until four o'clock the next day. You

878
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. They had video of this shit.

879
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 3: It it was unbelievable. It was like the Blackout game.

880
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 3: It was so crazy, couldn't finish. It was just ridiculous.

881
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 3: And you had nine NBA players in one game, including

882
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 3: the biggest in the world. Right, it was like nothing else.

883
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: Ask you this, who's your top five Seattle Hoopers ever?

884
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: Who's darting five out of Seattle?

885
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 2: I ain't putting myself in this. I I'm getting a

886
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 2: spot right there.

887
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:30,959
Speaker 3: I'm saying Brandon Roy, Jason, Terry, Doug Christie. I'm saying

888
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 3: Isaiah can Seattle Tacoma mm hmm. And then I'll say.

889
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:36,959
Speaker 1: Nate.

890
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 3: I love Nate. Yeah, that's my five. But then you

891
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 3: got Zach Dejonte Polo. They about taking all another level. Yeah,

892
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,439
Speaker 3: the new generation gonna take it a whole another level.

893
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: Speaking of Isaiah, you'd have been through something similar to

894
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 1: what he's going to now, Like he can play. I

895
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: think he's proven that he can play. It looks great

896
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: right now another day. The reason that he's not in

897
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: the NBA and the persevere he had to go to

898
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: to get up every morning at home and continue to

899
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: make sure he's ready just in case the phone call

900
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: is getting made. But just speak up on Isaiah, the

901
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: type of person is and what he's going through to

902
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: even have that dream of still wanting to get back

903
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 1: in the NBA.

904
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,919
Speaker 3: He's an unbelievable person. He's about his community, he's about

905
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 3: uplifting people. He is going through exactly what I went through,

906
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 3: like literally waking up every single day working out at

907
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 3: five in the morning, not knowing if that calls come

908
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 3: or not, but you're blindly working out in case it

909
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 3: does come. If his name wasn't Isaiah Thomas, he would

910
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 3: be an NBA. And what I mean by that is this,

911
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 3: he has his own following, so wherever he goes, it's

912
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 3: going to be some sort of distraction because people want

913
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 3: it for him to play. You can't just bring him

914
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 3: in exactly. His fans know like, no, he should be playing.

915
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 3: We're paying harder money to be here. We want to

916
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 3: see him. And people are like, nah, we want him

917
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 3: to be the vet mentor and he's wanted to do

918
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 3: that too, but the people want to see him.

919
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 2: And when the people speak, you know how that goes.

920
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 3: So if his name wasn't that, if it was John

921
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 3: Smith with the same talent, the same character or whatever,

922
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,959
Speaker 3: without the same resume, he would be in the NBA

923
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 3: for sure.

924
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: So you know, we are Orlando boys. We live in Orlando.

925
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: That young Orlando team has been real exciting this shar

926
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,399
Speaker 1: You know, one of them guys is from Seattle that's

927
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: leading the charge. He's a top fifty player you know

928
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: by ESPN, he's a dude. To see him transition to

929
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: his second year, you know, I see a lot more

930
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: maturity first year to the second year. I feel like

931
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: it was more proving the first year. I feel like

932
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: this second year he kind of sinking into his himself.

933
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: You know, I don't have to get all the points

934
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,919
Speaker 1: to do all this. I just do the little things

935
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 1: that might not even come up on the stat sheet

936
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: to win the games. They went on a winning streak.

937
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: So what do you see out of him this year

938
00:38:58,320 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: that you've seen the growth?

939
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 3: Exactly what you said, the little things, And I think

940
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 3: they experience of USA basketball helped tremendously because he couldn't

941
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 3: be the focus. He couldn't be the main dude on

942
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 3: that team, so you had to have like a little

943
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 3: thing impact when you do all the little things to

944
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 3: have a big impact. And that's what I told him.

945
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 3: I talked to him this summer when he was there,

946
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 3: and obviously he wasn't the main score, but it was like, yo,

947
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 3: the little things you're doing now are going to help

948
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 3: make you a better all around player. Is when you

949
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 3: get back with your team, you're going to be the

950
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 3: main dude, but you're gonna have these habits of doing

951
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 3: little things that help you in. And he's leading and

952
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 3: I don't even know if he's averaging what he averaged

953
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 3: last year. He may be close. But the all around players.

954
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 5: I does, I can't tell.

955
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 1: Don't matter.

956
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 4: It's just the way, like you said, the way he's playing,

957
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 4: the way he stepped up his game. And also the

958
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 4: other part is like his continuity with Franz, because Franz

959
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 4: is the other dude on the team. Those are the

960
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 4: two players right way today. That's what makes that's what

961
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 4: I love about them. I watch every game and they

962
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 4: play the right way. It's no selfishness, it's no my

963
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 4: turn and I'm the man, and they say it. It's

964
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 4: not like they just play like that. I watch I

965
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 4: do the post game that I watched them doing the interview,

966
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 4: and I've seen Paolo say out of his mouth, we

967
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 4: don't care who scores. What I'm talking about as a team,

968
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 4: and that truly, we all like each other. We all

969
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 4: are happy for each other, we supporting each other. And

970
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 4: you see that. I watch Moe Wagner score, lead the

971
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 4: team and score and get twenty seven, and everybody going crazy.

972
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 4: Whether it's him, whether it's Cole Anthony, whether it's Anthony

973
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 4: Black gin twenty seven.

974
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 5: It doesn't matter who it is. They all just go

975
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 5: out and play.

976
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 4: We know what type of teams do when they got

977
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 4: a group of guys that's playing together. And then they're young. Bro,

978
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 4: they got dude, Markel ain't healthy right now, Big Big

979
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 4: Win Dale ain't been playing. They doing all this without them?

980
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 2: What's crazy about them?

981
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 3: And I think, okay, see is they brought like a

982
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,439
Speaker 3: college atmosphere to the NBA. Yes, which is rare because

983
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 3: you know, pros is supposed to be individual. My bag me,

984
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 3: they brought like weed to the NBA. Yes, it's fresh,

985
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 3: and it's it's a system, it's a culture and okays,

986
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 3: the same thing. Sacramento kind of did the same thing

987
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 3: last if these guys even younger and younger.

988
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 4: And I gotta give a shout out to coach jamal

989
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:12,479
Speaker 4: Mo because he doing damn good jobs. He's that those

990
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 4: dudes respond to him, They listen, they resonate, and most importantly, bro,

991
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 4: like y'all know how important it is when a team

992
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 4: gonna play and fight for a coach, Like we don't

993
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 4: have games, Bro, we show up and get thirty then

994
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 4: just we didn't have it to night our nights, well

995
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 4: we don't have it. Were still in the game for

996
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 4: sure because how hard they play and we hang our

997
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 4: hats on defense.

998
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 3: And he involves everybody everybody like you said, cold black whit.

999
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 3: It could be anybody like they and they're okay with that.

1000
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 4: He don't suck, Like you'll appreciate this because like he

1001
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 4: don't have people scared to play their game, bro, Like

1002
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 4: that's the one thing that I see.

1003
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 1: This's like great, great trait.

1004
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 4: For him, Like I don't care who it is, like,

1005
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 4: get somebody new the team. Like they they feel like

1006
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 4: I can come in and play my game myself. They

1007
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 4: ain't worried about like coach about to go crazy on me,

1008
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 4: but like he giving them, dudes the comps to go

1009
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:01,439
Speaker 4: out there and just ball.

1010
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody looking.

1011
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 4: Scared or nothing like they you know what that is

1012
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 4: when you got that coaches like don't.

1013
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 2: Do this or you do like they can mess with

1014
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 2: your home.

1015
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 3: That's the best defense you can see a time for

1016
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 3: the coaches because I always say, you're as good or

1017
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 3: as bad as the coach wants you to be. Yeah,

1018
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 3: and he's to Q's point, he's given that freedom but

1019
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 3: also responsibility like yeah, you're balling with You're balling within

1020
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 3: the framework of everybody ball and we're all winning because

1021
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 3: of it.

1022
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 2: And they enjoyed playing together. It's like a college team

1023
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 2: in the NBA.

1024
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,720
Speaker 1: I love it. I didn't. I didn't make the playoffs,

1025
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: So get the opportunity to play in the playoffs because

1026
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: I always play with a team that took me, that

1027
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 1: was rebuilding. I know for you it took you years yeah, year,

1028
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: ten eleven years playoff this new N Season Tournament. You

1029
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, how do you feel about

1030
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: the N Season Tournament? Guys like us that you know

1031
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: it was on teams early on in our career. You

1032
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: get the opportunity to be in something and play for

1033
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: something early in the season. What do you think about

1034
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: the N Season Tournament? What you think about the success

1035
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: and touse of just overall your whole perspective of it.

1036
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 3: I didn't know what to expect, to be honest with y'all, Like,

1037
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 3: I didn't know what to expect because I'm like, this

1038
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 3: is different, and we don't always like different, right, But

1039
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 3: the fact that it was like it made everybody play hard,

1040
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,399
Speaker 3: and that's what the guys who played before we want

1041
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 3: them to compete.

1042
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: Only had one blowout game autumn games and like in

1043
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 1: the final four, thanks New Orleans.

1044
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 3: And then you want them to compete and play hard,

1045
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 3: and they're doing that. And the young fellows is you

1046
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 3: know what it is. We always gonna show love to

1047
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 3: young fellows if we can. We know what they go

1048
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 3: through to be the league and they're not making the

1049
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 3: same money. We're gonna look out for them. You took

1050
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 3: care of Nate. You took care of so many I've

1051
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 3: seen it visually, you know what I'm saying. So like

1052
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 3: that part of it, but the fact that they're competing.

1053
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 3: The only thing I would add to it is somehow

1054
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 3: the winner gets the automatic playoffs.

1055
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 4: I think that being floated and the only thing I

1056
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 4: should be that should definitely be a situation.

1057
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 2: Even the person makes it.

1058
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 3: They may not get the same seed, but they should

1059
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 3: get there too, so it makes even more competitive.

1060
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 1: Teams they getting the championships get an automatic playoffs.

1061
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 4: I don't know about the team to lose, but for

1062
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 4: sure that's true.

1063
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:05,800
Speaker 5: But I'm just saying, I don't.

1064
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: Know that should be both because it's East and west,

1065
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: East and West, That's what I'm saying. I don't care

1066
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: you're gonna get one West Coast team or spy.

1067
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 5: My kids just get a participation.

1068
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 2: You lost, but you can also learn the lesson when

1069
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 2: you lose.

1070
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: That's what you learn.

1071
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 4: Come back and win and you will get your automatic

1072
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 4: being next.

1073
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: Because I was thinking about other rems of that too,

1074
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 1: like outside of five hundred thousand, it should be some

1075
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,959
Speaker 1: more that you get out of that along with the game.

1076
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: But with that do that kind of go against the

1077
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: play in. You know what I'm saying, you already adding

1078
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: two more teams to the play in and play in

1079
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: to get in the playoffs. So if somebody win the

1080
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: N Season Tournament, what about the play in? When you

1081
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: when you get to the.

1082
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:52,879
Speaker 5: Way small people than.

1083
00:44:53,120 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, they gonna figure it out, figure it out.

1084
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 1: But I.

1085
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 5: Ain't got that.

1086
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: His brain start hurting like I was. I was telling

1087
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: Q and I'm not saying that this is validating the

1088
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: N Season Tournament. But I'm happy Lebron is the m

1089
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Speaker 1: v P. I'm happy the Lakers won it. A veteran team,

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00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: a team that wins all the time, and that if

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Speaker 1: you would you put a ban up for you on that.

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00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 1: I saw listen because I know what he's referring to.

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00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 1: I know what this is.

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Speaker 4: This question is coming from a specific place. He saw

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00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 4: the video that was going around with Kobe. Kobe said it.

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00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 4: He was speaking on the Lakers as an organization, and

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Speaker 4: he told he I don't know what they asked him,

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Speaker 4: but he was emphatic about it. He was like, Yo,

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Speaker 4: that ain't what we do here. I don't care if

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Speaker 4: you you ain't gotta like it. You ain't got to

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Speaker 4: do this, but like we don't put conference chances championship banners,

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Speaker 4: though we don't put the visional champion. This is the

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00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 4: city of champions. Only NBA championship titles going up there. Now,

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00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 4: you have to keep it in context because this type

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00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 4: of situation didn't exist. This is still a championship. So

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00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 4: that's why I say it should be loud. I think

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00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 4: it's the first of its kind, and I think it's

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00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 4: going to continue to stay here. And it is an

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00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 4: actual championship. It's not like the conference. It's a it's

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00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 4: a league wide championship.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you should put a big banner

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00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,720
Speaker 1: up like championship banner, but I feel like it should

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00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: be acknowledged in your arena that we want to Like

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00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 1: I said, you gotta there gotta be a big time

1115
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 1: banner where the retired jerseys and all that, But somewhere

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00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: arena you show that the twenty twenty three champ in

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00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 1: season champion is the Lakers.

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00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 4: So let me just say this right with that, Like

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00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 4: to me, that's subjective, Like that's like I feel like

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Speaker 4: the Lakers could feel like that, but had the paces one,

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00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 4: why wouldn't they want a buffer. That's like the history

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00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 4: that's hiss in itself has got a little different things.

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Speaker 1: Going on, Like we don't want to put that up

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00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: there and mess up our world.

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Speaker 4: They got twenty of like eighteen of each, like but

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Speaker 4: fourteen they ain't did nothing but one nothing like the

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00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 4: c was one.

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Speaker 1: But we better put it out.

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Speaker 2: You mean Seattle.

1130
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 3: In Seattle, we won Renner Beaches, won a bunch of championships.

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00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 3: We had a bunch of players. We've never once put

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00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,879
Speaker 3: up a city championship banner. It's only the state championships.

1133
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 3: So you could say that's the Lakers kind of motto.

1134
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 3: But to your point, it should be acknowledged, just not

1135
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 3: in the same regard the same way as.

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00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:21,280
Speaker 2: A different color or whatever.

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00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, the sand Guards as an NBA championship, right, it

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00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: should be acknowledged in your rent. But like I was

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Speaker 1: going back to, like I'm happy Lebron won it because

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00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: it's kind of valid. Daci. At the end, you know,

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Speaker 1: I didn't really want to.

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Speaker 3: Can I ask you because you actually played with Lebron

1143
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 3: so to see him twenty one years later took the

1144
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 3: same path high school to the league like you to

1145
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 3: see him twenty one years later at this level, Like

1146
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 3: you said, some people are retired ten fifteen even touching

1147
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 3: the basketball. To see him at this level with this drive,

1148
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 3: did you expect it one? And how crazy is it

1149
00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:58,399
Speaker 3: to see too?

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Speaker 1: No, you can't expect at that longevity. Like I always

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00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: say this about Lebron, I was three years it was

1152
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: about to be my fourth year when Lebron got to

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00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 1: the CAB. He was way more mature than me, me

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00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: being four years in the league. Him coming straight out

1155
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Speaker 1: of high school. So what I did see in him

1156
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 1: was maturity. In maturity, I seen like how hard he

1157
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: work and what he did and so forth on. I

1158
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: never grew up in the weight room. I grew up

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00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 1: in the gym, And if you know anything about professional athletes,

1160
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,720
Speaker 1: you got to do both. You just can't do gym

1161
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: and not do weight room because your body got to

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00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: be strong enough to withstand these long seasons. Him, his

1163
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: maturity off the court and his maturity on the court

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Speaker 1: was like coming out of high school. I haven't seen

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00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,240
Speaker 1: that from nobody. You know, we're still playing we goofy,

1166
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, playing around, not taking shit

1167
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: as serious as others. But him, his maturity level was

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00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 1: just crazy. So if anybody could do it, I'll say

1169
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Speaker 1: him do it. But you can't predict twenty one years

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Speaker 1: and still averaging over twenty some points. It's crazy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, nobody could see predict, think, hope, pray any of

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Speaker 4: this shit would happen on the level that this has happened.

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Speaker 4: I'm just being real, Like twenty one years and then

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00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 4: your twenty first year you still average. Forget about averaging

1175
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Speaker 4: like I mean, I forget about it because it's still amazing.

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Speaker 5: But my thing is.

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Speaker 1: The eye test.

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Speaker 4: He knows now what he didn't know then, but he's

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Speaker 4: still he don't got.

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Speaker 2: The same.

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Speaker 5: Similar he's still to be close to what he was.

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Speaker 4: Is that like I'm talking about as far as bro,

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00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 4: we see the dunks, the wind mills, the reverses, the

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Speaker 4: tip dunks. To be able to do any of that

1185
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:48,280
Speaker 4: stuff like, that's the that's the anomaly. Lebron is doing

1186
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 4: something that ain't like on that level, Bro, like it

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Speaker 4: ain't never been done and still be like I'm still

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Speaker 4: me it ain't none of y'all stepped up to show

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Speaker 4: me y'all can do nothing about it.

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Speaker 1: Yet let me ask you this, do you feel like

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Speaker 1: his record is going record will ever be broken. Nope, No,

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Speaker 1: I don't feel like it. I don't think.

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Speaker 3: I don't think, to be honest with you, I don't

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Speaker 3: think people are in love with the game enough to

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Speaker 3: even like play that long at that level, because once

1196
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Speaker 3: you get everything you could buy and everything, like, Man,

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Speaker 3: I've done it.

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Speaker 2: I'm tired.

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Speaker 5: I'm gone fifteen.

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Speaker 3: I've been working ten years, and I've been working for

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Speaker 3: thirty years of my life. Man, I'm tired of this

1202
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,800
Speaker 3: right now. For the future to drive you know what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Twenty years for the future, like when they get to

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Speaker 4: fifteen year, they're gonna be.

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Speaker 1: A billy bro.

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Speaker 3: I did the math. I think last year you didn't

1208
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 3: have to average. I think it was basically twenty five

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Speaker 3: points for twenty years playing eighty games or.

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Speaker 1: Something, playing at least eighty games. Yere ain't no way.

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Speaker 1: That's the other thing. I feel like the longevit and

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Speaker 1: he's still adding to it. Yeah, he's still adding. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: every point is a record. He's making the mark where

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Speaker 1: I don't feel like it will ever be touched. Now

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Speaker 1: he's a one to one who is the young guard

1216
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Speaker 1: in the league that gets small exch Darius Garland. There's Gardon.

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Speaker 3: I think he got the most handles in the league

1218
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 3: right now not named Kyrie, and he plays with no agender. Yeah,

1219
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 3: so he's shifting his hell and still making the right play.

1220
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 3: Like for me, I love watching Davis Carlett for sure.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, how you feel about One of my favorite players

1222
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:18,720
Speaker 4: who watch right now is young Halliburton and he gotta

1223
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 4: he gotta pull at your heart, your tall point guard

1224
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,760
Speaker 4: to it, you know what I'm saying, Like shifty, stupid

1225
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 4: sh Like. The thing about him that I like is

1226
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 4: when you watch him like he got the because SGA

1227
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 4: is like this.

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Speaker 1: To be wanted my life.

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Speaker 4: He's like literally he's probably my favorite player, Like just

1230
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,760
Speaker 4: to flat out wise right now. But the thing about

1231
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 4: SG both all three of these guys, actually you won't

1232
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 4: be real sg A, Garland and Tyree Like Bro, when

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00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 4: I watched him play, this is my favorite thing to watch.

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00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 4: Fuck what they doing right Look at the defender when

1235
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 4: they be doing their ship.

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00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: The defender be all over the place.

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Speaker 4: Bro, two feet over there trying to hustle back three

1238
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 4: feet I'm talking about when he when they.

1239
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 1: Do, they drag you. Trying to let every movie be a.

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Speaker 4: Reaction with I moved you from here to here, Like

1241
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 4: I love watching dudes that could take a motherfucker one

1242
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 4: o one and then say watch this, I'm about to

1243
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 4: do something. He gonna move completely the fuck out my way.

1244
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,839
Speaker 4: And I'm talking like they be moving people completely out

1245
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:21,439
Speaker 4: of their way.

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Speaker 5: Bro. That is impressive and crazy to me.

1247
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 3: Then three, and I'm gonna add and man and then

1248
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 3: my guards I'm watching. I ain't adding no more than them.

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00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 3: Three man, I promise you. And man, he's like a

1250
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 3: real dog. Ain't no fake dog with him and their

1251
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 3: feet off it. You know what I'm saying.

1252
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,839
Speaker 2: He's electric, Like I'm there, who's this player?

1253
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 3: Comp You got to combine people to be like he

1254
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 3: got some of that, He got some of that.

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00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 1: He's like minsot situation because I feel like Anthony Towns

1256
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: is a guy that will let it man, take the

1257
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 1: rims of the team and be great, right you know?

1258
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: And that was sometimes you had an ego. I was

1259
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 1: here before you and nah young fellows Shaq and Kobe.

1260
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: Nah Man, you can't pass me up. We go through me.

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00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 1: But I feel like Anthony town has that personality that

1262
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:07,280
Speaker 1: he let a man, not really let but he's encouraging

1263
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: man to grow and be the best that he can be.

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Speaker 3: And that's what that's why their team's taking off. Yeah,

1265
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 3: that's how I feel. I think before it was a

1266
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 3: struggle and maybe not like hourly, but maybe internally, like

1267
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 3: you said.

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00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 1: He been the man. You know what I'm saying.

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00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 3: Like I was there with him, Jimmy Butler was all

1270
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 3: there and it's been like the man and now it's

1271
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 3: like ooh, okay, and.

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00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 1: The USA team did a good fun right.

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00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 4: Okay, I can't stop him show.

1274
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,359
Speaker 5: The man like he definitely the man when he come

1275
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 5: back here.

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Speaker 1: Ye ain't no doubt. I'm just saying, like, yeah, so

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Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you man, Cuting kind of picked

1278
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: out Rookie of the years. Cuton went back four or

1279
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: five times. You know what I'm saying, I ain't tell nobody,

1280
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 1: but who is ther Rookie of the Year? And who

1281
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 1: do you think will win Rookie of the Year. I

1282
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 1: got chacked, You got chack. I got checked winning the

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00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year. I got winby actually being an

1284
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: All Star starter.

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00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:56,359
Speaker 2: M hmm.

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00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 3: I could see him getting enough votes to be All

1287
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 3: Star started by the check wins rocked is okay?

1288
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 1: Who do you have winning MVP this year. If your

1289
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 1: early pick, who would you say we winning MVP this year?

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00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,280
Speaker 3: If Luca I had before the season start, I had Joker.

1291
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,439
Speaker 3: But if Luca can maintain, they like in the top three.

1292
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 3: I think Luka wins MVP because his number is gonna

1293
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 3: be undeniable. It's just about the wins. Who you got

1294
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 3: to win MVP. I'm an Embiid again. I feel like

1295
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 3: he don't. He haven't been getting the credit that he's

1296
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:31,359
Speaker 3: he deserved this year. I feel like it's been they've

1297
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 3: been saying hard and left. They've been saying how good

1298
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 3: the role players is, how good Nick Nurse is, how

1299
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 3: great Maxie is becoming.

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00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody saying the reason that they're winning games and

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00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: what they're doing is because Embiid is healthy. He's come

1302
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 1: out every night. He's averaging thirty a night. Yeah, I

1303
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: feel like they don't after the MVP, they really ain't

1304
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 1: giving them.

1305
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 3: But they didn't want to give the one before that,

1306
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 3: So I don't think he'll win it. I think I

1307
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 3: think Luca will win this one.

1308
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: I a Greek freak.

1309
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 2: I think Tatum might be in the mixed two, depending

1310
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 2: how Boston shake out.

1311
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 4: Tell them absolutely gonna be in the mix. But for

1312
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 4: whatever reason, I don't know why. Unless Baby Jago average

1313
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 4: like thirty five and they number one overall, like they're

1314
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 4: not gonna fuck with them.

1315
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

1316
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 5: I don't know why I want them to.

1317
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 1: But I just think I think, yeah, I think it's

1318
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 1: hard for even though I want him to win more

1319
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 1: than anybody, I just think it's hard for the winning

1320
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: in Boston for some strange reason. Last time we was here,

1321
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: we asked you about if you had to put a

1322
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: team together of your teammates, who you put together. So

1323
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 1: you kind of put together a team of like just

1324
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: the guys you like and young ma and you're playing

1325
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:45,320
Speaker 1: against everybody, and yeah, yeah, teammates, friendships and stuff play aside.

1326
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 5: And I'm just going to get all the killers that

1327
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 5: I could get, never.

1328
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: To go against anybody out of your teammates, Who are

1329
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 1: the four other players that you will play with to

1330
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 1: make your ultimate team to dominate? What I worried about

1331
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:05,280
Speaker 1: as this one question, is it this person in their prime.

1332
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,240
Speaker 5: Don't matter when you played with them, but you're picking

1333
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 5: them and.

1334
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 2: That makes it easier.

1335
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 1: So any of your teammates that you ever played with

1336
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 1: Grant Hill. Okay, okay, Penny, okay, you gotta put a five,

1337
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: because there's other fives out there that's you're gonna be,

1338
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: and it's some crazy fives out there.

1339
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 2: I'm putting the markets at the fire at the five.

1340
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 5: Got Penny Ghill, you the two or you the one?

1341
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:39,760
Speaker 3: I'm just watching? Can I just pick thee other players?

1342
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,359
Speaker 3: Then me and Penny in the back court, Grant at

1343
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 3: the three? All just at the four or five? I

1344
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 3: got play with the five, so I can put see

1345
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 3: the Scottie Pippen or Paul Pierce. Mm hmmm at playing

1346
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 3: with Clippers.

1347
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, damn, hold on, y'all, y'all acting like y'all know

1348
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 2: the like there was somebody on missing.

1349
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 5: No, I didn't say that. I just was surprised that

1350
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 5: you played with Paul.

1351
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:15,879
Speaker 1: Because you got a lot of teammates. And then yeah,

1352
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: you're trying to make the ultimate team. Yeah, I can

1353
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 1: see the Penny, Granny, Grant, you, Paul, Marcus Aures. I'm

1354
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 1: trying to think of other players you played with Nicky

1355
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:31,479
Speaker 1: Sons type team.

1356
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you just look at all those guys, where

1357
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 3: they will fall all time. I think those guys ranked

1358
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 3: the highest and then you could throw like Stephan mark Berry.

1359
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 1: So I know you see a lot of highlights, and

1360
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people seeing you highlight. What's

1361
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 1: the one favorite move that you did that always stick

1362
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 1: out to you? But you got a bunch of them.

1363
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 1: You throw them off the back, boy, you behind the back,

1364
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna say the pastor Blake. And the reason

1365
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: why is because you know, after Labor Day we all

1366
00:57:57,720 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 1: get together in September.

1367
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 3: We talked about it then and we walked on the

1368
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 3: cru I'm like, if I throw it through my les

1369
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 3: because you catch it and dunk it. He's like, yeah, boom.

1370
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 3: We never practiced it. We never talked about it again.

1371
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 3: It's March. Fast forward six months later. I looked back

1372
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 3: at him. I said this the moment I knew I

1373
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 3: could do my part. I'm like, if he catches coach,

1374
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 3: can't get mad at me because you know he touched

1375
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 3: the ball. It ain't my fault no more. I did

1376
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 3: it when I threw him, like just catch it. He

1377
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 3: caught it and he went milled it and we went

1378
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 3: to a timeout. If you watch it on the NBA

1379
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 3: dot com, they have like six different angles and when

1380
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 3: you watch it the last one. He touched his chest

1381
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 3: and grab like I can't believe he did that, because

1382
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 3: we talked about it six months ago and I looked

1383
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 3: at him like, I can't believe you just did that,

1384
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 3: Like you.

1385
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 2: Wasn't supposed to win Millet. That was you're supposed to

1386
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 2: dunk it.

1387
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 3: So to me, that was like the craziest place because

1388
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 3: I had that play in my head ever since I

1389
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 3: was eight years old. It's been in my head. I

1390
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 3: was gonna do it at some point. I'm gonna do

1391
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 3: it in college. I'm gonna do it in high school.

1392
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 3: At some point I'm gonna do it. And I did

1393
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 3: it with Blake.

1394
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 1: It was the perfect time. Say, man, you definitely had

1395
00:58:55,440 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 1: the guts to try a lot of stuff. Yeah. It

1396
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 1: was crazy. Yeah, Yeah, you definitely go down history of that.

1397
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 4: Just missed the one on one like, who is somebody

1398
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 4: that you had the like your best one on one's

1399
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 4: battles with in practice when you play, because I already

1400
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 4: know he's want of them dudes to get through a

1401
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 4: practice and.

1402
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: He want to play one on one.

1403
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 2: It's two to stand out, man, it's three.

1404
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler played one on one every day in Minnesota

1405
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 3: after practice, no matter where, he was cp same thing

1406
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 3: every day after practice. And the last one was D

1407
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 3: Book And this is before D Book went to the playoffs.

1408
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 3: So I knew he was a dog. And I'm gonna

1409
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 3: tell y'all story I never tell. We played one on

1410
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,919
Speaker 3: one one day, like man, so what you just don't

1411
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 3: nobody care? He average twenty five, we got ten wins.

1412
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 3: Don't nobody this is late in the season. Nobody care

1413
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 3: about that. And Josh Jackson, who was there, was like, Yo,

1414
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 3: what did you say the book today? And I told

1415
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 3: him he was like man together every day to the airport.

1416
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 3: He's like man that crushed him. Like he's still talking

1417
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 3: about that. And to me, I said to myself, I

1418
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 3: saw he's a winner. That bothered him. He's averaging twenty

1419
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 3: five points and what I said in the one on

1420
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 3: one is bothering him right now. I said, I know

1421
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 3: when he gets to that level in the playoffs, he's

1422
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 3: gonna kill because he's built for that.

1423
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 2: It means something to him. He's got to get the

1424
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:21,439
Speaker 2: right group around.

1425
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 3: And when that happened, to see him take off in

1426
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 3: the playoffs, I text him like I told you he

1427
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 3: was gonna kill.

1428
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 2: I was not surprised. I saw it.

1429
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 1: I knew it.

1430
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 2: That was years in advance, Like I knew it was

1431
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 2: gonna happen.

1432
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. I love his mentality. Man, he's adult. You don't

1433
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 1: get too many dolls like him no more. You know,

1434
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 1: he's like yeah, old school breed.

1435
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 3: Yeah he's old so and I gotta get him shout

1436
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 3: out because, like I said, he changed my son's life,

1437
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 3: basketball life, and the way he approaches the game.

1438
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 4: My comment on that, like when I saw him doing

1439
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 4: the jud I'm like, Yo, that's crazy, Like people can't

1440
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 4: even fathohim, Like what that did to JJ, like being

1441
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 4: around like because you know what I'm saying, Like as kids,

1442
01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 4: we had fucking give.

1443
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 1: Our left arm. Bro, I didn't even meet a division one.

1444
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 3: Like you get to go shoot and say you worked

1445
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 3: out with the book workout too, Like, Bro, I'm out

1446
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 3: of here. And then book took a step further when

1447
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 3: he did his shoe uh release, like on social he

1448
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 3: put JJ in the commercial. Shoot, I'm like, this is wild. Yeah,

1449
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 3: it was dope. He took him at Drake concert at

1450
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 3: night too. I didn't even say that part. He took

1451
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 3: him to Drake concert.

1452
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 4: Yes, the book elaborate on those three dudes. Man, those

1453
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 4: are the three different type of killers. So what was

1454
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 4: the intrigue with them three?

1455
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 2: They all killers and they all love the game like

1456
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 2: I do.

1457
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 3: So it was like practices over everybody on the rush

1458
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 3: out like nah, we're getting better, still sharp and still

1459
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 3: So with like Jimmy, it was always like post footwork.

1460
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 3: The same pace he plays with in the playoffs is

1461
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 3: how he plays. But his footwork is impeccable, Like he

1462
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 3: could do reverse pivots, pivot, all that up, fake up,

1463
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 3: fake up, fake spin out of it like the code,

1464
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like he got that arsenal

1465
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:04,479
Speaker 3: in his game.

1466
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 2: With Book, it was more so his footwork, but his

1467
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 2: shot making.

1468
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 3: He can make tough shots off balance, fade, floating, you

1469
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. He was just like gifted. He's

1470
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 3: a gifted scorer. So with him and his mentality, the

1471
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 3: tougher the shot, the better he is. So with him

1472
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 3: it was like a different level of shot making. And

1473
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 3: he'd Seep's just a dog. He's gritty, grimy, He do

1474
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 3: whatever it takes to win, Like that's just him. He

1475
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 3: on foul hen but he's so competitive. I remember We

1476
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 3: used to shoot after the one on ones. We would

1477
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 3: shoot like five four three two one. You gotta make

1478
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 3: five in a row, eat spot four in a row,

1479
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 3: E spot three in a row. Spots and other people

1480
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:43,919
Speaker 3: would start to drill with us and then they would

1481
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 3: tap out. JJ Reddick Paul Pierce say, like, man, we

1482
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 3: ain't sitting here for two hours doing this. Me and

1483
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 3: him are sitting there until somebody finishes, you know what

1484
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 3: I'm saying. So just the competitiveness, our bond through basketball

1485
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 3: is deep. So they were all different, but all needed

1486
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 3: and I think that's what the best do.

1487
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 1: Is There none active players right now can beat you

1488
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 1: one on one, Not active players, None active players. Lyrics

1489
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 1: can't be one on one. Hey you heard that ship.

1490
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 1: Tell motherfucking Action you can't eat him right now. One

1491
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 1: on one can't get a hell. That's why I don't

1492
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 1: understand what Gilly talking about, Like one on one. Let

1493
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 1: me just revisit this Gilly. Literally, I'm being literal here.

1494
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 5: I'm not capping. I'm not trying to put us on it.

1495
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 4: Like we could go throughout the entire history of the NBA,

1496
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 4: and this is one of the worst dudes you could pick.

1497
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 3: The player in the fucking one on one ever street

1498
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 3: of the basketball life. Now, if we have a wrap

1499
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 3: batt or something, he gonna get me. You know what

1500
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Basketball talking about it ain't happening.

1501
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 5: You are not talking to this man about one on one.

1502
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 1: It is not shout out to Gill and.

1503
01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 3: Love what they're doing for the colt. But like, and

1504
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 3: we love what y'all doing for the culture too, for real,

1505
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 3: Like this is dope. I'll watch it every episode.

1506
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 4: I can absolutely you becoming you know, your own media

1507
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 4: mogul and the monster in the media game.

1508
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 5: You got a presence in theario from your family treat dog.

1509
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 4: Hey, listen, listen, Like who some of the guys or

1510
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 4: women that you look up to in the media spaces?

1511
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 4: Did you think it's doing a good job. It's like,

1512
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 4: you know, some of the top people doing it.

1513
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 2: I think, y'all. And I'm not just saying it because

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Speaker 2: you're here. I think, y'all. That's why I call you

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Speaker 2: a text you about stuff like, Yo, what you think?

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Speaker 3: I think, y'all? I think Matt and Stacker doing their

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01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 3: thing for sure. I'm loving seeing Cam and Mason the space.

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Speaker 3: To be honest with you, you know, what I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: Like I'm fucking hilarious, brom loving shout out.

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Speaker 4: To Cam and not like what Cam said. You like, no,

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01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 4: don't give a fuck with y'all. Think I'm trying to

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Speaker 4: do something that I like to do. Like y'all should

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Speaker 4: try to stop hating on me.

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Speaker 3: Like he come from a different space, Like we was athletes,

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. He was an athlete, but

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Speaker 3: he comes from the rap world. Like it's different. It's

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01:04:57,400 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 3: a different mentality. So I'm not mad at him at all.

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Speaker 3: And then, uh, who else is out there that's really

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01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 3: like dope? I'm like they're doing a dope job. Ryan Clark.

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Speaker 3: I think Ryan Clark is dope.

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Speaker 4: To yeah him and swag swag my guy, I like swagging,

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Speaker 4: big market spirit, but I like, I definitely think Ryan

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Speaker 4: Clark killing. He killing doing his thing. Them my favorite

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Speaker 4: dudes to watch up on us, Ben the Key. I

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Speaker 4: feel like they like us, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 4: Like they're like we are they like you know what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying. The obviously they football players, but like we

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Speaker 4: all wanting the same they I feel like they champion

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Speaker 4: their brothers, the fraternity.

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Speaker 2: I'm liking Lou Will in the space. I'm seeing that.

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01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 3: Went on they show, I did their show. Jeff t hilarious.

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01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 3: They just coming to me now. But I'm loving seeing

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Speaker 3: Lou in the space six guy for sure underground goat well,

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01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 3: that's a rap man. We got the repeat offender. We

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Speaker 3: got family in the building. Man, young mall, this is

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Speaker 3: what we do. No telling when he be back, but

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Speaker 3: right now you know he being a big media mogul.

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Speaker 3: But y'all gotta show love. Check it out.

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Speaker 5: We got big young my guy guy.

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Speaker 2: Both appreciate y'all.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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