1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: Ron An Aian, You know what the one thing about 2 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: Zuberu is I've decided that car company makes Volkswagen look good. 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: That's right. 4 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 2: You're women have heard of the lot as, you've heard 5 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 2: the gnawing they make. 6 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: But let me, you're gonna lose my rocket eighty eight. 7 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's great. 8 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: Just want everybody likes my rocket, Ada baby riding stive 9 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 1: it all all the car Doctor. I think run flats 10 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: are an interesting concept. Right, you can run the air 11 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 1: out of the tire and the tire won't go flat, 12 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: so you can continue to drive the car. The problem is, though, 13 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:37,279 Speaker 1: when the vehicle owner continues to drive the car and 14 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: the tire starts the shred. 15 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 3: Welcome to the radio home of ron An Aian, the 16 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 3: Car Doctor. Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car 17 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 3: owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion on 18 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 3: automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick. 19 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 4: Up the phone and call in. 20 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: The garage doors are open, but I am here to 21 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: take your call at eighty five five six ninety nine hundred. 22 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 3: And now pee running. 23 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: How well do you know your vehicle? Hello and welcome 24 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: running any and the Car Doctor here at eighty five 25 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: five five six zero nine nine zero zero, here to 26 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: take your calls and answer your questions, whatever they might be. 27 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: This radio show is all about you and your vehicle, 28 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: and it's I thought this would be a timely topic 29 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: to kick off this hour of the Car Doctor with. 30 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: By the way, more information at cardoctorshow dot com. How 31 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: well do you know your vehicle an emergency? How well 32 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: prepared are you? I was away on vacation last week, No, 33 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 1: no surprise. We've been talking about that previous hour and 34 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: I've put it out there on Facebook. By the way, 35 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: let me just jump in real quick before I forget. 36 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: If you get out to Facebook this week for us, 37 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: if you get out to running any of the Car 38 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: Doctor page on Facebook, there is a picture of a 39 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: Chevy Nova out there, a former racecar from the late 40 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: seventies early eighties that would belonged to a friend of mine, 41 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: and it's we're in the search for it again. We're 42 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: trying to help someone find it as he's trying to, 43 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: you know, go back and go home again and bring 44 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: that car back to the family. So if anybody can 45 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: get a look at that car and tell us where 46 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: that might be last bit of information. We think it 47 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: was in the Westchester, New York, Newburgh, New York, Brewster, 48 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: New York area. It is a sixty six Chevy Nova, 49 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: I believe is what it said, and just just you 50 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: can go to Facebook and see it. But we're looking 51 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: for that car and we'd like to purchase it from 52 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: my friend would like to purchase it from the original owner. Anyway, 53 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: how well do you know your car? And in an emergency, 54 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: how well will you be prepared? Fast? Harry told me 55 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: a story as I called him during the course of 56 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: the week to see how the Kingdom was doing, and 57 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 1: he told me the story of one day he left 58 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: the shop and as he was approaching the highway there 59 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: was a woman broken down in a Mercedes Benz Harry Tony. 60 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: Can Harry jump on the mic real quick? Maybe he'll 61 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: He'll fill everybody in here real quick. Let's talk about 62 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: this real quick, bro. So you were driving along and 63 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: you know there's this Mercedes that's stuck right, yeah, and 64 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: you've got an issue, and uh what are you What 65 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: are you gonna do about it? How are you gonna 66 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: how are you gonna She needed to jumpstart and you couldn't. Uh, 67 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: you couldn't get her to uh get the car going 68 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: right right. 69 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 2: Well, what happened was I was coming under the bridge 70 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 2: ready to jump on Route seventeen north right, and I 71 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 2: see a lady pulled over right underneath the bridge and 72 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 2: uh not elderly, but you know, middle aged like us. 73 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 2: We're not old. So I see her. I said, well, 74 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: let me pull over and help her. She's on the phone. 75 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: So I pull in front of her. I put on 76 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 2: my fur way flashers. I get and as I'm walking 77 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 2: up to her, I see she's driving a late model 78 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 2: Mercedes Coop but she's on a flip phone. I said, alady, 79 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: this is not gonna end. 80 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: This is so I uh. 81 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: She got off the phone. I said, ma'am, can I 82 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 2: help you? You know, I showed her my R I 83 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 2: had my r A T shirt on and she goes, oh, yes, 84 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 2: my battery's bad. I said, okay, let's see what it 85 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: does and maybe I can jump. And I have one 86 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 2: of the micro start battery packs in my car, so 87 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 2: I get in the car. I turned the key. The 88 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 2: motor spins over beautifully, but it's popping. So I said, ma'am, 89 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 2: the battery is good. I said, uh, you know, it's 90 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 2: obviously another it's like a no start issue or anything 91 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 2: else like that. I said, why don't we put on 92 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,799 Speaker 2: our Why aren't you put on your fourway flashers? 93 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: And this is where the problem became, right. 94 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 2: Why don't you put on your four way flashes? And 95 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 2: she says, I don't know where they are? And I said, okay, 96 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 2: where's your manual? I don't know where that is. Okay, 97 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 2: so let's look through the glove compartment. She goes, well, 98 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 2: i've never read the manual. 99 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: How long is she on the car? 100 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 2: Since it's new? It was like a two thousand and six, 101 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 2: two thousand and seven. 102 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: So she's driving a six seven year old vehicle. She's 103 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 1: never read the owner's manual. She doesn't know where where 104 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: the four way flashers. 105 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 2: Are, doesn't know where the four way flashes are. Thinks 106 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 2: it's the battery when the car is turning over. So 107 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 2: I get out the manual, right, I'm looking through it. 108 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 2: And that's another issue that's made in my day. Here's 109 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 2: the car that's tattered for safety, there's no safety flasher, 110 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 2: you know, an American car, So right on top of 111 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 2: the steering column. I looked all over for an emergency 112 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 2: flash or icon. I couldn't find it. I look in 113 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 2: the owner's manual under emergency, where it would be nothing there. 114 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: I said, this is beautiful. 115 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 2: So I get out of the car. I said, why 116 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 2: don't we call triple A. Do you have triple A? Yes, okay, 117 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 2: can you call triple A? I don't know how, I said, Oh, brother, 118 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 2: I said so. By that time, a Saddle River police 119 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 2: car showed up. I explained everything to him. He puts 120 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 2: his hand on his head and he goes, all right, 121 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 2: I'll deal with it. He goes, man, can I just 122 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 2: see your driver's license? Yeah, I have to look for it. 123 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure. Sticking around for that was probably a 124 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: set end. 125 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: So here's someone you know. And okay, she doesn't understand battery, 126 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 2: no battery or whatever, but didn't know anything about the 127 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 2: car never right downers mouth. Didn't men know where the 128 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 2: fourway flashes are in the case of immergency or anything else 129 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 2: like that? 130 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: Right, and soon to be coming to a side of 131 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: the highway somewhere, you know, with labor day bearing down 132 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: upon us, Thanks Harry, with Labor Day bearing down upon us. 133 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 1: And this is the point I want to bring up 134 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: as well. As what Harry is is discussing here in that. 135 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: You know, we've got to be prepared. You know, when 136 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: the emergency happens, when that car gets stuck on the 137 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: side of the road, you may not have time to 138 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: find the four way flashers, may have to flick them 139 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 1: on right away. It may become a matter of life 140 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: and death. And it's a huge safety risk if you're 141 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: not familiar with the vehicle. So one of the things 142 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: you've really got to do is before you take the trip, 143 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: before you go out on the car for the next time, 144 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: even around town, take five minutes, ten minutes. You're gonna 145 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 1: have a couple of coffee tonight at the kitchen table, 146 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,559 Speaker 1: grab the owner's manual, and get familiar with the car. 147 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 1: How well do you know where the safety equipment is? 148 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: You know, I took the suburban, the two thousand and 149 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: four suburban, which now has fifty thousand miles on I've 150 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: been talking about this for years to North Carolina last week, 151 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: put my tools in it, went over all the fluids, 152 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: put a fresh battery in it. The battery was three 153 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: going on four years old. Looked around on I mean, 154 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: I'm underneath this vehicle every three four months anyway. But 155 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: the road is a very unforgiving place. And just as 156 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: Harry was describing, and as he pointed out that he learned, 157 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: if you're not familiar with the vehicle, you're stuck on 158 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: the side of the road. The simplest things, whereas the 159 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: owner's manual, where are the four ways? Not having the 160 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: phone number for the roadside service triple A or whoever 161 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: you're using programmed into the phone, that's just downright silly. 162 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: You're just expecting a problem and inviting it to happen. 163 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: Always got to be prepared, all right. I'll open the 164 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: show with this and pay a little tribute where tribute 165 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: is due for the service people, for the American service 166 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: people that were on that train yesterday in France. They 167 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: didn't stop, they didn't think, they reacted, They were prepared, 168 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: they were ready for the consequences, and they dealt with 169 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: it with the lunatic, with the AK forty seven. And 170 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: I'm not saying your car is anywhere near that big 171 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: a problem, but it can be. You've got to be prepared. 172 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: And that's my point. You don't have time to think. 173 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: You've got to be able to react when you're stuck 174 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: on the side of the road with your automobile. Eight 175 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: five five five six zero nine nine zero zero is 176 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: the phone number. I'm ron A any and the car doctor. 177 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: I'm here to talk to you about your car problem, 178 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: whatever that might be. I also want to just point 179 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: out real quick before we take the pause before we 180 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: open the garage doors. Coming up in two weeks Labor 181 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: Day weekend. I believe that is Saturday the fifth that 182 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: we are going to be live from the Sheridan Crossroads 183 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 1: in Mahwa, New Jerseys at the fourth Maybe it's Saturday, 184 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: the Saturday the sixth, Saturday the sixth. We'll look that 185 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 1: up and figure that out when we get back home. 186 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: But we're gonna be there on that Saturday, Labor Day, Saturday, 187 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: at the Sheridan Crossroads in Mahwa, New Jersey, two to 188 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: four pm, doing this radio show on live remote, and 189 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna be there with the crew of our local 190 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: New York affiliate WRCR. We're gonna be talking to them, 191 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: We're gonna be talking to you looking at the thousands 192 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: of hot rods and the things that the dead Man's 193 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: Curve Deadman's Curve USA dot com car group has got 194 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: going on. For them, and though we're kind of looking 195 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: forward to that. If you're in the area, we want 196 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: you to stop buy and say hello. Let's pull over 197 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: and take the pause. Eight five five five six zero 198 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero. Run on any of the car 199 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: doctor will be back right after this. Welcome back, run 200 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: on any of the car doctor. Eight five five five 201 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: six zero nine nine zero zero is the phone number. 202 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: Let's go over and talk to friend online one twenty 203 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: thirteen for f one fifty about buying an extended warranty. 204 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor. How can I help? 205 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 5: Well, I'm just curious. I've never born an extended warranty 206 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 5: and are they worth it? 207 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: Do you own the truck since new friend? 208 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 5: Yes, they did. 209 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: Okay, what sort of extended warranty are you thinking about buying? 210 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 5: Well, they have two. But you know, I just reading 211 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 5: on this thing. There's a powertrain warranty on this vehicle 212 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:22,839 Speaker 5: already for five years or sixty thousand mile, correct, you know? So, 213 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 5: I I Here's here's the thing. All the cars that 214 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 5: I had in the past, I've never bought in one 215 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 5: and when I worked, I leased cars and we never 216 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 5: had any problem with any of it, right, you know? 217 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 5: So Is it money well spent or is it wasted? 218 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: I used to think it was money wasted, But in 219 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: recent years I've changed my attitude, and let me explain why. 220 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: Let me ask you a couple of questions. The car 221 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: that replaced the twenty thirteen Ford truck, what was it? 222 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: How old was it? How many miles were on it? 223 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 6: Oh? 224 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 5: It was only two years old and I had fifty 225 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 5: four thousand miles. It was another forward, Right. 226 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: Do you think you're going to keep this one beyond 227 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 1: the five years of the powertrain coverage? 228 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 5: Probably not? 229 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: All right, then it's probably money wasted. The only time 230 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 1: I start to think now in terms of powertrain coverage, 231 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: I'm sorry of extended warranty is outside of powertrain coverage, 232 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: I start to think about the electronics. 233 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 7: First. 234 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: First of all, if you're going to buy an extended warranty, 235 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: I don't care for what car it is. In this 236 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: mechanic's mind, it's got to be from the manufacturer, all right. 237 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 1: I do not care for any extended warranties that I've 238 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: had exposure to that I'll consider aftermarket Ford, I want 239 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: to Ford, GM, I want a GM, Chrysler. I want 240 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: to Chrysler and so on, all right, And you know, 241 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: too many times I see people buy that outside of 242 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: the manufacturer warranty and two years later when they go 243 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 1: to use it, that company's gone out of business and 244 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: they were incorporated in Delaware, and good luck trying to 245 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 1: chase them. And you know that that that to me 246 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: is just throwing money away. Now, one of the things 247 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: we did when my daughter purchased her Escape, she bought 248 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: a new FOURD Escape last year, was yes, she has 249 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: powertrain coverage five years, sixty thousand miles. In my mind, 250 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: as long as we're doing the service and maintenance, and 251 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: you know, you can bet your bottom dollar we're doing that, 252 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 1: that engine should go one hundred thousand with no problems. 253 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: Just as the transmission what I what. 254 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 5: I follow all the things in the manual, right, you know, 255 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 5: I rotate the tires, I do the oil changes on time. 256 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 5: Anything that all I've had on this truck so far 257 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 5: was a little leak. I don't know if it was 258 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 5: transmission Fluid took it into the garage and he fixed 259 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 5: it right. 260 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: The only the only thing we put on her Escape 261 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: was the extended warranty. She's good to five years, seventy 262 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: five thousand miles now on powertrain. But more importantly, she 263 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: has electronics coverage. And that was one thing that I thought. 264 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: I think it was a thousand or twelve hundred dollars, 265 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: I forget the exact number, but I spread it out 266 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: over five years, and I said, for two hundred dollars 267 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 1: a year to have bumper to bumper electronics coverage if 268 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: she has an issue. You know, if electronics are going 269 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: to fail, it's typically in the first five to six years. 270 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: It's typically a little earlier in life, unless they're going 271 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: to go their normal life cycle of whatever it is, 272 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty thousand miles, eight million years old. 273 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 5: That's the thing with trucks, DOWND is you know, you 274 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 5: know you got that backup camera. 275 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: Right, there's a lot of electronics on there. 276 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 5: Power receipts, you know, yep, and so okay, So you're 277 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 5: saying what I should do is put the warranty on 278 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 5: for five years. 279 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 1: What I'm saying is talk to the Ford dealer a 280 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: is it a Ford? Is it Ford coverage? We want that? 281 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: And then you're you're you understand how the warranty will 282 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: cover the engine in the trans You're not as worried 283 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: about that failing because you're going to do the maintenance 284 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 1: as you are, you want to know what sort of 285 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: coverage does it provide for the electronics, for the backup camera, 286 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: for all the computers on the vehicle, for the instrument cluster, 287 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 1: for everything electronic on that vehicle. That's where you can 288 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: spend a lot of money very quickly, and you've just 289 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: got to be prepared for that. So that is something 290 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: worth thinking about, all. 291 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 5: Right, sir, Okay, Well, thank you very much. 292 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: You're very welcome. Thanks for being a listener. You're very welcome. 293 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: You take good care. Electronics are fast becoming the most 294 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: expensive thing to repair on any vehicle. And if you're 295 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: in that gentleman's case in France, case he owned sounds 296 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: like a two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight 297 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: Ford and then traded in and got the twenty thirteen. 298 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: But if you're someone coming out of a ninety five 299 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: Ford or a ninety five Toyota, for example, and going 300 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: into a newer vehicle into a twenty fifteen, it's light years. 301 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: It's just so different in terms of what that vehicle 302 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: has on in terms of electronics, and it's something you've 303 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: really got to consider. Let's go over and talk to 304 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: Michael Across Wisconsin ninety six Toyota Wrap four in some 305 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: comments about how he fixed his hydraulic clutch. I assume 306 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: this is in response to the gentleman in the previous 307 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: hour with the ninety four pickup and the clutch issue 308 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: he had, Right, Mike. 309 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 7: That's correct, Ron. Yes, I'm really impressed with the list 310 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 7: of things you'll enuminate, enumerated. But my problem was different. 311 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 7: This thing would not shift depressed. Depending on what stage 312 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 7: it was in. I couldn't shift it out of neutral 313 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 7: into a gear, or I couldn't shift it in reverse direction. 314 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 7: And this went on for about three or four weeks. 315 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 7: I took it to my very good mechanic, bless his heart, 316 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 7: about three times, and the first time he replaced the 317 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 7: slave cylinder, and the second time he replaced the master cylinder. 318 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 7: And I'm sure he looked for leaks. He looked for 319 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 7: leaks everywhere, but we were losing pressure and that didn't 320 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 7: fix it. Finally he uh he found the crack zero 321 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 7: fitting and that's where it was leaking out. 322 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: Okay, sure you. 323 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 7: Have Yeah, I had them steamy for a while. 324 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: You mean the the bleeder itself was leaking. 325 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 7: The zero fitting where you put in uh, well you 326 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 7: checked the well, don't you checked pressure? You add food there? 327 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: Well okay, gotcha, Okay, where you bleed it? Right? Yeah, okay, 328 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: yeah the bleeder r right right. 329 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 7: I'm sure it was hard to hard to see that 330 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 7: at first. So I related that. So you can add 331 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 7: that to your pile, to your list of things that 332 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 7: could be wrong. 333 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: Thanks, Mike. And you know, all I really try to do, 334 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: and I was trying to get him to see that 335 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: is that stop you know, stop saying because if you noticed, 336 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: he was talking about how this person said that and 337 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: that person said this, and you know it's it's never 338 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: about that. It's always about how does the system work? 339 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: Take it apart in your mind, take it apart on 340 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: a piece of paper. What could go wrong? And what's 341 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: the most common and what's the most obvious. And you're right, 342 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: we have to add hydraulic leaks to the system now, 343 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: the from a fitting such as that. So good things 344 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: to know. Good things. 345 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 7: Now. I have another question, Sure, I have another question 346 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 7: and response you talk about the Priusts. We have an 347 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 7: old five Prius which we love and we bought it 348 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:23,959 Speaker 7: with sixty thousand miles on it and about I don't know, 349 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 7: five years ago or so. We only drive about twelve 350 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 7: thirteen thousand miles a year, but we do go on 351 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 7: cross country trips with it once in a while. Now 352 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 7: it's got about one hundred and twenty five thousand, and 353 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 7: it's running just fine. We only get about forty two 354 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 7: in town in the summer and on the road. Well, 355 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 7: actually similar, it doesn't change that much, right, you know, 356 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 7: maybe up to the mid forties. Some people on newer 357 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 7: ones they get fifty or higher. But anyway, we like it. 358 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 7: And I'm wondering, Incid, there's no rest one I get 359 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 7: looks great to scratches as all. I'm wondering, what would 360 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 7: you do? Would you sell that at that mile one 361 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 7: hundred and twenty thousand because of that battery, the big battery. 362 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: Well I wouldn't sell it because of that. I would 363 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: put the question back to you. So let's say tomorrow, Mike, 364 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: that battery goes bed. Would you put the three grand 365 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: into it? 366 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 7: I'll tell you what, We're only one hundred and twenty thousand. 367 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 7: I'll tell you what, we're one hundred twenty thousand. 368 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: Think about think about that? Don't go anywhere. Let me 369 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: pull over and take this pause, and when we come 370 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 1: back we'll talk about that a little bit. That's really 371 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 1: the question, would you put three grand into it? How 372 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: nice of a car is it? And you know what, 373 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: you can give us the answer when. 374 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 3: We get back. 375 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 1: I'm on Eddy in the car doctor. We'll be back 376 00:18:41,280 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: right after this. Every haway mean slippery, Welcome back? Weren't 377 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: any in the car? Doctor? A five to five five 378 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: six zero nine nine zero zero is the phone number. 379 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: That's twenty four to seven. If this radio show is 380 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: not on the air, you call eight five five five 381 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: six zero nine nine zero zero anytime, day or night, 382 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: and fast Harry. We'll call you back. Leave a message. 383 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: Fast Harry will call you back, and we'll put you 384 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: in Q and talk to you about your car problem 385 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: up here on national radio. Speaking of problems, let's go 386 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 1: over and talk to Mike. Let's get back to Lacrosse, Wisconsin. 387 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 7: Mike. 388 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: When we left, we pulled over and took the pause. 389 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: For those just tuning in, the conversation was would I 390 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,239 Speaker 1: spend the money on the car? And I actually put 391 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: it back to you, Mike, would you put three grand 392 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: for a battery? Into that Prius at this age and mileage. 393 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 7: Well, that's of course the key question. I haven't done 394 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 7: any research on it, and I don't know how long 395 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 7: those batteries a glass on the average. My question is 396 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 7: do they wear out after a certain amount of time 397 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 7: on the average or. 398 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: Is it miles I've seen it. I've seen it more 399 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: based on time and unfortunately two thousand and five and 400 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: you say you've got out one hundred and twenty thousand 401 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: on it. How many miles around this. 402 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 7: Now, Mike is about five? 403 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: I think you know you're in the range. I'm not 404 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: saying it's going to happen tomorrow, and I'm not saying 405 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: I would run out and do it, but it is 406 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 1: something I would be mindful of. You know, perhaps i'd 407 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: want to make sure, you know, to have the Toyota 408 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: dealer test it. I know they can check it, and 409 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: there's things they can look at to determine. And you 410 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: know what, Toyota really does have a good handle on 411 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: the on the Preus batteries in terms of their failure rate. 412 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 1: But it really comes back to do you want to 413 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: be proactive and change it early? Do you want to 414 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: change it on the road If you're taking a cross 415 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: country trip, would you change it? And that's really a decision. 416 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 1: You know, it'd be no different than as I've said before, 417 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 1: if you're driving a traditional gas powered vehicle and you're 418 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: cross country with a ten year old one hundred and 419 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: twenty thousand mile vehicle, if the trans failed, would you 420 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 1: replace the trans? And if it would, then you know what? 421 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 4: Drive on. 422 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't matter what the vehicle is. It 423 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 1: doesn't matter matter if it's a hybrid or gas or diesel. 424 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: It all comes down to maintenance per month, maintenance per mile. 425 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: And one of the things that I that I laugh 426 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: at to this day is I don't want to spend 427 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: any money on a car. I'm going to go buy 428 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,239 Speaker 1: a new one. And that's a real statement that I 429 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: hear more than a few times a week at the shop, 430 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: and I sit there scratching my head. I think we 431 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: get rid of vehicles if we have too much money 432 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: and we're not enough brains, as I sometimes say. But 433 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: I also think it's because people have a fear in 434 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: that they're not sure if their mechanic can do the 435 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: job properly, which makes me wonder why they're dealing with 436 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: that mechanic in the first place, and just as importantly, 437 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,719 Speaker 1: they're not sure where to go. And you know, you 438 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: can talk to people. It's interesting, you know, Mike, I 439 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: don't know if you do this. I can't do it 440 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 1: because I'm in the business. But I've listened to people 441 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 1: without talking and telling them who I am and what 442 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: I do, and not a lot of people are happy 443 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,959 Speaker 1: with their mechanic. It's really very kind of interesting. And 444 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,959 Speaker 1: yet they'll still continue to go to a repair shop 445 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: because and there's no there's no rhyme or reason for that. 446 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: So you know, are you taking it to the Toyota 447 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 1: dealer now for service? 448 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 7: No, only if I have to. For example, my mechanic, 449 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 7: who I said before, I love because he's inexpensive and 450 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 7: he's dedicated. Honest. He charged me for that work on 451 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 7: that rad four. He charged me right around one hundred 452 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 7: dollars and he just kept that until he found it. Anyway, 453 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 7: he does not have a up to the computer equipment. 454 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 7: He probably wouldn't work on the electronics on a Prius, 455 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 7: but he can fix other normal things very efficient. 456 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,479 Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing about go ahead. 457 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 7: The thing about the Prius. We paid eleven thousand for 458 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 7: that about five years ago, I would guess maybe maybe 459 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 7: it's worth about I don't know five now or a 460 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 7: couple of years ago. I think it was eight, but 461 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,479 Speaker 7: I haven't checked recently. So would I put three thousand 462 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 7: into a five thousand dollars Parker Value vehicle? Maybe not. 463 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 7: You got me thinking at all about that. 464 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: Well, and that is that is something to consider. You know, 465 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: if the vehicle's worth five and you put three in it, 466 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: now you've got eight in the vehicle. You know, what 467 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 1: does eleven grand buy you? If eleven grand buys you 468 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: something five years newer with half the mileage, maybe peace 469 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: of mind is worth an extra three grand or two grand, 470 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: And that's you know what. It all comes back to 471 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 1: dollars and cents and convenience. When we took the suburban 472 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 1: down to North Carolina last week, it's twelve years old. 473 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 1: I know, it's only got fifty thousand miles on it. 474 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:43,959 Speaker 1: I prepped it as best I could. I know, it's 475 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 1: a twelve year old vehicle, and I was ready for 476 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: what came my way. I also had my uniform pack 477 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 1: in case I had to go rent the service bay 478 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: and fix it right there and with somebody in North Carolina. 479 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 1: But that's a different conversation. But you know, it's all 480 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: about trust and the reliable of the vehicle and how 481 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: well it's maintained, and how well you know that vehicle 482 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,479 Speaker 1: and would you put money into it? Lots of questions, 483 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: lots of things people need to think about before they 484 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: just make blind decisions. Let's pull over and take a 485 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: pause real quick. Eight five five five six zero nine 486 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. When we come back, Laurie and Marion, 487 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna be right back and talk to you about 488 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: your twenty fourteen Ford Flex. Don't anybody go away. I'm 489 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 1: running any of the Car Doctor back right after this. 490 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: Welcome back, run any of the Car Doctor. Eight five 491 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: five five six zero nine nine zero zero. By the way, 492 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: the website more information cardoctorshow dot com. Get out to 493 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor's Facebook page. Roninini and the Car Doctor. 494 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: We're talking about a missing sixty six Chevin Novo someone's 495 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: looking for. We're trying to help them find that. If 496 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: you can read that story and relate and pass on 497 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: information or share that photo and spread it around the world. 498 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 1: We're looking for that car and we would appreciate anything 499 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 1: anybody can do. Let's go over and talk to Louri 500 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 1: in Marie and Iowa. Twenty fourteen Ford Flex. Luri, Welcome 501 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: to the car Doctor. How can I help? 502 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 7: Oh? 503 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 2: Hi, thank you very much. 504 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 6: I was calling because I took my car to the 505 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 6: dealership to get the oil changed a. 506 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 7: Couple of weeks ago, okay. How many miles. 507 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 6: Fifteen thousand, six hundred okay. And while I was there, 508 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 6: the representative recommended caliper cleaning. And I didn't even know 509 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 6: what a caliber was, So my question was does the 510 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 6: manufacturer recommend that? And he said to me that because 511 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 6: I live in the Midwest, you know, the salt and 512 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 6: sand from the roads and things like that, that the 513 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 6: caliber cleaning was a good idea. It would prolong the 514 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 6: life of my brake pads. And so I okayed the work, 515 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 6: and then later I thought, why did I do that? 516 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 6: You know, it just seemed like an up cell. Later 517 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 6: I probably I feel like I got ripped off. So 518 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 6: I thought, I'm calling. 519 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,239 Speaker 1: The car doctor. Yeah, I don't think I agree with 520 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: them on this, Lori. I you know, my first question 521 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: is that twenty fourteen Ford Flex, if you open up 522 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: your owner's manual, what's the warranty? 523 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 7: Is it bumper to bumper, I would suppose it is. 524 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 6: I haven't looked at that, but I guess so. 525 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: I you know what if it says bumper to bumper 526 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: warranty coverage, and you've got to promise me you'll open 527 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: up the owner's manual and look at this after we 528 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: get off the air. You know, bumper the bumper coverage, 529 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: bumper the bumpers, bumper the bumper. Three years, fifty thousand 530 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: miles and okay, I could see if the brakes wore out, 531 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: but I would ask them to show me, show me 532 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 1: where it says if the brakes wear out as a 533 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: result of not greasing the caliber slids. And while it 534 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: might be good maintenance, you know, if you live listen, 535 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: if you live in a region of the country where 536 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: the snowfall is so heavy that they're using so much 537 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: calcium chloride to melt the snow that it's creating rust 538 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: and corrosion issues. Yeah, I get it all right, But 539 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: in all the years on radio twenty five next January, 540 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 1: you're the first person to call up with this ton 541 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 1: of a problem at fifteen thousand miles. You know, typically 542 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 1: that's something that doesn't occur until the car is until 543 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: the forty or fifty thousand mile range. If then typically 544 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: it's longer than that, and I would what did you 545 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: pay for this service? 546 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 6: Basically one hundred dollars? 547 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 1: I think I think somebody bought lawn furniture. You know, 548 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: I think somebody got commission and bought lawn furniture. I 549 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,239 Speaker 1: would I would ask to see what their policy is. 550 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 1: I would be very calm about it, but I would say, 551 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: you know, I don't understand Fellows. My owner's manual says 552 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,439 Speaker 1: I've got bumper to bumper warranty coverage. Why am I 553 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 1: doing this service? Is this something that's common in this 554 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 1: part of the country. Is this? And I wouldn't give 555 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: them too many answers. I would ask them to I would, 556 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: you know, just ask the question and let them give 557 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 1: the answers. But they've got to come back and they say, well, 558 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 1: we've you know, studies, we've seen corrosion, et cetera. You know, 559 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: this is a problem to which my question would be, 560 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: if somebody buys a used car with that's you know, 561 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: if somebody buys a car that sits on the lot 562 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: for seven months that doesn't get driven, are the calibers 563 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: going to be that Corroda that after seven months and 564 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 1: zero miles, the calibers are gonna have to come off 565 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: and have them greased. I yeah, it doesn't doesn't leave 566 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: a good taste in my mouth. You know, makes me 567 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: It makes me kind of wonder all right. 568 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, I wondered too. 569 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. 570 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 6: I appreciate it so much. 571 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: I don't get it. Laurie. You go back, you talk 572 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: to them, You tell them we talked, and you call 573 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: me back report back when you get a chance. All right, 574 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: I'll do that, all right. You take good care. You're 575 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: very welcome. Bye bye, dear. Let's get over and talk 576 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: to Don and Omaha, Nebraska, two thousand and eight Toyota 577 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: Highlander and some questions about a wheel alignment. Don, welcome 578 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: to the car doctor. How can help. 579 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,719 Speaker 8: Sirhi, thanks for taking my call. 580 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: You're welcome. 581 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 8: The car now has about forty thousand miles on it, 582 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 8: and I added a line back about fifteen thousand miles ago. 583 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 8: And when I took it in, it was one of 584 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 8: the National chain shops. But the guy, I don't think 585 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 8: did a whole lot to it. And he came out 586 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 8: and gave me kind of a computer print out that 587 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 8: said well, everything looks like it's in spex, And so 588 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 8: when I got home, I kind of looked up what 589 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 8: spex really were and just taking an example, I think 590 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 8: for that car, the camber said something like ideal was 591 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,959 Speaker 8: a negative sixty three hundreds of a degree plus or 592 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 8: minus seventy five hundreds of a degree. So you know, 593 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 8: I'm not a math whiz exactly, but that would look like, 594 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 8: you know, from a negative one point three eight to 595 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 8: a plus. 596 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's want one. Let's not split hair three quarters 597 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: of a degree plus or minus. Yeah. 598 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 599 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 8: So anyway, it was within that spec, say the negative 600 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 8: one point three eight. If it was a negative one 601 00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 8: point two five, you know it met that spec. But 602 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 8: when I drive out then and hit a bump, doesn't 603 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 8: it go over to something greater than that? Or the 604 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 8: possibility is greater than that? 605 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: Well? Sure, I mean hitting bumps and suspension and how 606 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: suspension changes is always going to change wheel alignment. But 607 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: wheel alignment is always based on here's what it is 608 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: with the wheels at rest, straight ahead, in line, and 609 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: then as the vehicle progresses and goes down the road, 610 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: the changes that occur are there by design, not by intention. 611 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: You can't align a vehicle because you're going to hit 612 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: a bump someday and it's going to make the canber 613 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: or cast or do this or that. So it's always 614 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: done vehicle at rest as we've done it forever, so well, 615 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:39,239 Speaker 1: go on. 616 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 9: Your question is, but they don't put it back to 617 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 9: what would be the ideal set because you know, now 618 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 9: I'm two and a half years later and I think 619 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 9: it probably needs it again because we've had kind of. 620 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 8: A horrible winter in the Northwest, you know, right, And 621 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 8: so I was going to take it in again, but 622 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 8: I thought, well, you know now it's right at the 623 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 8: ragged edge. And the guy had in says, oh, well, 624 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 8: you're still meeting specs. I'm not going to do anything. 625 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 8: But maybe it's just a tiny bit from being over. 626 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 8: And my point, shouldn't they take it back to that midpoint? 627 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 8: I mean, what's a normal shop do? 628 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: Great question? Some shops will and we have to we 629 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: have to have a conversation about costing here, don all right, 630 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: And I always bring this up when I talk about 631 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: wheel alignment. Wheel alignment and tire work are are two 632 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: of the most underrated, underappreciated services that happen to a 633 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: vehicle and I'm not saying in your case, but in 634 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: some people's cases. 635 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 7: Sure. 636 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: The cost of tire equipment and wheel alignment equipment is 637 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: astronomical in comparison to to you know, other things. A 638 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: wheel alignment rack, for example, can be upwards of fifty 639 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: to fifty five thousand dollars. Start doing the math about 640 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: how many cars have to get aligned and bang through there, 641 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: you know, to make that back. And when you're thinking 642 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: about that, let's say the average wheel alignment is somewhere 643 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: between a half hour and forty five minutes. You've got 644 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: to weigh that out with that mechanic could be doing 645 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: a break job selling parts without a fifty five thousand 646 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: dollars investment into an alignment wreck. And how much quicker 647 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: do they get return on that? So cost of equipment 648 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: always comes into the conversation when we talk about wheel alignments. 649 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what I don't want to do 650 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: this too tight, Sit tight, don let me let me 651 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: pull over and take this pause. When we come back, 652 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: we'll close out the hour with this. I'm ronning any 653 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: in the card doctor. We'll be back right after this. 654 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 4: Damn welcome back, running any in the card doctor. 655 00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: Rolling along let's get back to don and amahanda b 656 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: ask a donn are you're still there, sir a. So 657 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: the conversations about wheel alignment on your two thousand and 658 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: eight toil you out a highlander, and you know what's 659 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: the responsibility of the alignment shop or the people doing 660 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: the alignment. You know, in my mind, there's two types 661 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: of wheel alignments out there. There's the fast food quickie 662 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: that I see people doing their advertising sixty nine to 663 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 1: ninety five, seventy nine, ninety five, things like that, and 664 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: then there's exactly then there's the guys that are doing 665 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: it and they're doing it correctly. They're sitting there and 666 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: they're being honest the saying, you know what, it typically 667 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: takes a half hour forty five minutes to do set up, 668 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: get the vehicle by the time we rode test to 669 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 1: get it up in the air, set the tire pressure, 670 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: and go through the vehicle, and you know, fifteen twenty 671 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: minutes to make your adjustment. They're telling you it's an 672 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: hour an hour and a half average vehicle. It's gonna 673 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: get worse in time because a lot of vehicles now 674 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: have steering angle sensors that need tools to be reset, 675 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: and that's gonna become part of the part of the 676 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: service procedure as well. So you know the old expression 677 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: you get what you pay for, and I agree with 678 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: you where I'm going with this, don and that you 679 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: know what if it's to the ragged edge, you know, 680 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: alignment guy knows what works on what vehicles. He can 681 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: sit there and he can stand behind or protect himself 682 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: behind the Hey, it's within manufacturer respect all day long. 683 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: But if the tire is going to wear better at 684 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,800 Speaker 1: mid range or to the other side of the spec, 685 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: then what service is he really doing for you other 686 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: than just taking your money and lightening your wallet, right, 687 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: And you know that's really what this is all about. 688 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: You know, a smart alignment guy doesn't align every vehicle 689 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: to every manufacturer respect. You know, the way I was 690 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: taught was and I remember the conversation like it was yesterday. Ron, 691 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: someday you're going to align two vehicles that are exactly 692 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: the same. One's going to be just a normal, everyday 693 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 1: bread and butter vehicle. The other guy is going to 694 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: be an anvil salesman and he's going to carry his 695 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: demos in the trunk. And you know that's going to 696 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: affect the suspension and how the front end rising. You're 697 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 1: gonna have to align and compensate for that. And you know, 698 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: I used to say typewriters and that would make people nuts. 699 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: They say, you're really dating run Yeah, you know, and 700 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 1: that's my point. So you know, I really laugh at 701 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 1: things like lifetime wheel alignment. All lifetime wheel alignment does 702 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 1: and I'm not saying that's in your case, but as 703 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: long as we're talking dollars, you know, all lifetime wheel 704 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: alignment shops are doing is promising you a minimum amount 705 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 1: of service, minimal amount of effort, trying to do an 706 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 1: up sell, and you know, see what's wrong with the 707 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: car over the life of the vehicle. Nothing on a 708 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: car can be warrantied for life because sooner or later 709 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: everything wears out. So I would go back to the 710 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 1: shop and say, hey, you know, I know you charge 711 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: me for this, and you know it is kind of 712 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: to the ragged edge, but you know, I really like 713 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 1: things put in the center of the spec. Now, the 714 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 1: reason they may not be able to do that is 715 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,320 Speaker 1: on that particular vehicle or on any vehicle, is that measurement, 716 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: is that adjustment normal? Is it simple to do or 717 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: is it a much more involved process, and then that 718 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: can be additional money as well. You really should read 719 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: the fine print on the invoice. What does it say, 720 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 1: you know, performed four wheel alignment, set adjustable or factory 721 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 1: adjustable angles to spec? Or is it check and adjust 722 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: as needed? Adjustment is extra? And sometimes you look at 723 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 1: the fine print you'll find the answers there too. Don 724 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: I hope I wasn't a help, sir. I enjoyed the question. 725 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 1: I enjoyed being able to have the time till the 726 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: next time I'm running aiding in the car doctor reminding 727 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,839 Speaker 1: all of you good mechanics aren't expensive, They're priceless. See 728 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 1: you