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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics,

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Speaker 1: where we discussed the top political headlines with some of

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Speaker 1: today's best minds, and Trump's warren Iran is more unpopular

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Speaker 1: We have such a great show for you. Today is

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Speaker 1: the teo Z and Mandy Hawson stops by to talk

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Speaker 1: about the parapaganda around political violence in America today. Then

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Speaker 1: we'll talk to Matt Masdam who is running for Congress

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Speaker 1: in Michigan's seventh district. But first the news. Maddi Hawson, SAMAI.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to read a statement to you. I need

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Speaker 3: you to tell me if it's good or bad.

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Speaker 2: I can't figure it out, go for it.

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Speaker 3: US debt exceeds one hundred percent of GDP.

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Speaker 1: I am not an economist by any stretch to the imagination,

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Speaker 1: but I know it's bad. When you have more debt

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Speaker 1: than you have money coming in.

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Speaker 3: It feels bad. I would not like that to be

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Speaker 3: my bank account personally.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you know about this. There was

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Speaker 1: a guy, the richest guy in the world. His name

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Speaker 1: is Elon Musk, and he told me that he was

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Speaker 1: going to and waste, fraud, and abuse, and he was

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Speaker 1: going to do that in such a way that he

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Speaker 1: would cut our national debt, which was our huge crisis.

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Speaker 1: But we're a year and a half into the Trump

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Speaker 1: presidency and all we're seeing is spending.

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Speaker 3: You know, I heard this thing about Conservatives, that they're

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Speaker 3: the fiscally responsible ones, but this happens every time they're elected.

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Speaker 3: I don't understand them, Molly.

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Speaker 1: The national debt is now larger than the US economy,

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Speaker 1: about twice the historic average. We've heard plenty of alarm

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Speaker 1: bells in the past few years about our fiscal path.

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Speaker 1: And it's funny because I was told that russ Vought.

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Speaker 3: Mister redlines, He's going to go zero out that budget,

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Speaker 3: zero it out.

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Speaker 4: Zero out.

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Speaker 1: You're going to take away food from poor kids, gonna

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Speaker 1: make it hard for them to use snow app to

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Speaker 1: buy rotisserie chicken. That's something that Congress voted on. They

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Speaker 1: are taking rotisserie chicken away from snap benefits, making it

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Speaker 1: harder for mothers to get unemployment. But you know where

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Speaker 1: that money is going? Can you guess?

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Speaker 3: So that rich people don't have to pay taxes, which

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Speaker 3: is why we're broke.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's true, rich people not paying taxes. But also

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Speaker 1: that money is going to the Defense Department, to one

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Speaker 1: Pete hegsas people whatever, very into spending money. And also

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Speaker 1: because when you're a Fox News weekend host, you know

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Speaker 1: how to live it up. So that's one thing that's happening.

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Speaker 1: And then the other place that money is going is

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Speaker 1: to a place called ice.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was called nice, Now.

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Speaker 1: It's called nice. Those nice agents. They need that cash

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Speaker 1: so that they can make propaganda videos with Christyom on horseback.

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Speaker 1: You're welcome.

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Speaker 3: Would I do without that? Okay? So one of the

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Speaker 3: funniest things that we see from time to time is

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Speaker 3: our governing body does these votes that try to say, look,

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Speaker 3: look we're not doing bad things like stock trading. Look

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Speaker 3: we're honest people. And here we have the Setate unanimously

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Speaker 3: voting to band members from betting on prediction markets, as

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Speaker 3: if we should please collap.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll be shocked to know that the House. Okay,

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Speaker 1: all we want is a congressional stock trading ban. It's

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Speaker 1: like the closest thing you have to an eighty twenty issue.

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Speaker 1: And Republicans are like, we're not going to do that,

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Speaker 1: but we will say that they can bet on polymarkets,

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Speaker 1: so they can't bet on events, Okay, but they can

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely ridiculous. So one of my other favorite things

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Speaker 3: of this administration is yesterday you see Jdvents just in

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Speaker 3: this interview and he's indignant about all the corruption in America.

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Speaker 3: But it's always really funny because the never seem to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an incredible stuff. We got so much corruption

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Speaker 1: and it's all coming from the Trump kids. I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: there's some corruption that's happening in this administration, do not

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Speaker 1: One is that there's corruption happening with the Trump kids.

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Speaker 1: There's corruption happening with like the people who used to

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Speaker 3: Lobbyists or members of legal team were sitting on the

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Speaker 1: Right, that's corruption. But what the Trump kids are doing

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Speaker 1: president's elder sons making money doing stuff that then does

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Speaker 1: You remember they are owned by Jeff Bezos, and Jeff

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Speaker 1: Bezos the Apprentice show. And you have Republican corruption not

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Speaker 1: being covered in the Washington Post. See how these conflict

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Speaker 1: you don't cover the corruption, and so this corruption ends

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Speaker 1: favor with the administration. Yeah, real, real, great democracy if

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Speaker 1: we can keep it going on it, Yes, I think

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Speaker 3: Have not So we talk about the corruption, but one

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Speaker 3: incompetence and the absolute fuck ups at everything they touch.

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Speaker 3: And so here we have that doctor Oz went into

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Speaker 3: Medicare and he's going to modernize the system. That's what

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Speaker 3: touch technology, all of our social security numbers get leaked.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you know, this is like one of these things

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Speaker 1: So Trump administration's Medicare portal has made tons of people

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Speaker 1: They exposed private social security numbers to dozens of healthcare

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Speaker 1: you know who uses Medicare all old people. That's right.

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Speaker 1: the kind of thing that you could see a million

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Speaker 1: miles away. Coming from a million miles is the founder

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Speaker 4: Thanks for having me back.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about political violence, because there was an assassination

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Speaker 1: attempt on Trump. The guy did not get anywhere near him.

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Speaker 1: He was a floor away and eight hundred feet and

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Speaker 1: a lot of us were there. But it was still

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Speaker 1: someone who was He may have been a neoliberal. Actually

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Speaker 1: I'm laughing, not because political violence is funny, but because

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Speaker 1: a neoliberal is not who you think of generally as.

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Speaker 4: Radical centrist terrorism. Yes, he's a blue sky guy. It's

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Speaker 4: interesting because of the three Trump assassination attemps, we should

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Speaker 4: be clear. He's the first clear Democrat. I know they

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Speaker 4: claimed that the Democrats trying to kill Trump, but the

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Speaker 4: first guy who naked his ear was a registered Republican.

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Speaker 4: They expected to mention that the second.

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Speaker 1: Guys trained as a He was trained as a sharpshooter, right,

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Speaker 1: that's why he was so good, or he had had

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Speaker 4: Who the guy the guy who the first guy? I

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Speaker 4: don't know. They imagine Charlie Trump, but he was a

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Speaker 4: registered Republican, right, and we don't by the way, we

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Speaker 4: don't hear much about him anymore. I always find that interesting.

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Speaker 4: Same with the golf club guy. The guy at Mara

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Speaker 4: a Lago was an independent. He was all over the

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Speaker 4: place his politics. And then there's this guy who actually, yes,

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Speaker 4: clearly the alleged shooter, although he didn't fire a gun.

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Speaker 4: It was a secret service fired last Saturday. The alleged

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Speaker 4: assassin was a Democrat. But you know, the right are

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Speaker 4: so good at doing this. They're trying to kill Trump.

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Speaker 4: I often have fun on Twitter saying who's the they?

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Speaker 4: Who is they? Like, they're trying to get Chuck Schumer's

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Speaker 4: plotting assassination. It's absurd. Chuck Schumer can't even write a

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Speaker 4: sternly worded letter. He's not plotting to assassinate Donald Trump.

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Speaker 4: But they're so good at pushing this line. The one

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Speaker 4: thing the right is very good. They're not very good

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Speaker 4: they're very good at message discipline, and so once the

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Speaker 4: now seen revelations from Elon Musk's ex girlfriend, mother of

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Speaker 4: revealing about what happens in some of these WhatsApp groups

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Speaker 4: So I think it's really interesting to look and see

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Speaker 4: look at the polling now, Americans are actually more concerned

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Speaker 4: about left wing violence than right wing violence, despite the

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Speaker 4: again is testimony to the power of the media machine,

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Speaker 4: because we don't talk about all the right wing violence

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Speaker 4: fact that every single empirical study, every single academic study,

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Speaker 4: every single government study shows that right wing political violence

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Speaker 4: is the biggest threat in this country, much bigger than

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Speaker 4: left wing violence. Going back five years, ten years, fifteen years,

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Speaker 4: don't care about your feelings, as the right used to

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Speaker 4: like to say, and even the examples they've just airbrushed out.

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Speaker 4: They say stuff like, did you see someone recently only

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Speaker 4: after say on Twitter? Well, did anyone ever try and

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Speaker 4: assassinate Barack Obama and Joe Biden? Yes, many times there

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Speaker 4: were bullets start at the White House while young Sasha

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And also, let me add that Donald Trump truthed

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Speaker 4: get me started on Donald Trump's incitement to violence. I mean,

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Speaker 4: he hasn't run since the shooting. But this idea, I mean,

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Speaker 4: the idea that either a this is a left wing

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Speaker 4: I mean, I get it. Americans have the memory of

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Speaker 4: a goldfish. We know that it's eight seconds we forget.

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Speaker 4: But like Melissa Hortman last year in Minnesota murdered by

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Speaker 4: Democratic leaderhip was in trouble because they backed Janet Mills,

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Speaker 1: Let's do a minute on on this Democratic primary in Michigan.

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Speaker 1: So it's a very late primary. They do not vote

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a pretty big Muslim population in Michigan.

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Speaker 1: mayors went to Trump.

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Speaker 4: Yes, look, I'm not defending Dearborn right, Dearborn Well.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no.

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Speaker 4: The mayor of Dearborn is Abdullahammud, very good guy, rising

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Speaker 4: star in the Democratic Party. Okay, he had issues a

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Speaker 4: Kamon Harris. She didn't want to.

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Speaker 1: Meet you, she wouldn't meet.

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Speaker 4: But he didn't vote for Trump. It was a different

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Speaker 4: mayor of Dearborn Heights, different part who did and they

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Speaker 4: got ambassad jobs. And then there was a guy in

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Speaker 4: ham Tramick, Michigan, another very Arab American town who supported Trump.

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Speaker 4: And then there were these immams who went on stage

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Speaker 4: with them. I interviewed one of them. You know, they

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Speaker 4: said Trump is the candidate of peace. I'd love to

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Speaker 4: get that back on the show now and ask him

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Speaker 4: how he feels about that, But he doesn't want to

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Speaker 4: come back on the show. Weirdly, we've up, we asked,

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Speaker 4: Weirdly doesn't want to come back on defend that. So look, yes,

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Speaker 4: did some Arab Americans, Muslim Americans in place like Michigan

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Speaker 4: fall for the Trump bullshit that he was going to

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Speaker 4: be anti war? Yes?

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Speaker 1: And did send Jews by the way, I mean, did

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Speaker 1: some African Americans did some you knows?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we have. I'm glad you brought Michigan because,

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Speaker 4: especially for a liberal audience, it's a little bit nenurance.

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Speaker 4: Let me unpack it very quickly. Yes, some Muslim Americans

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Speaker 4: did defect the Trump in big numbers in some of

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Speaker 4: these parts, including prominent figures who've got jobs out of it.

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Speaker 4: And then some of them believed the bullshit that Trump

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Speaker 4: with the anti war and by the way, the anti

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Speaker 4: war lane was left empty by Carmena Harris who decided

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Speaker 4: to campaign with Liz Cheney warmonger. So when Trump said

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Speaker 4: Liz Cheney's going to send your kids to die in

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Speaker 4: the Middle East or going to kill your families in Lebanon.

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Speaker 4: They believed him. He was lying and they believed him.

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Speaker 4: I'm not defending them, but that was the situation. Having

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Speaker 4: said that, it really annoys me when you go on

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Speaker 4: a blue sky and you see kind of white liberals saying, haha, Muslims,

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Speaker 4: you all voted for this. Well, first of all, a

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Speaker 4: majority Muslims voted for the Democratic candidate. Let's just be

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Speaker 4: saying about that. And number two, Jill Stein, and I

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Speaker 4: was not a fan of Jill Stein, didn't actually make

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Speaker 4: the difference. Even if Jill standn't run, he still would

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Speaker 4: have you know, he won Michigan. There's much deep seated

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Speaker 4: issues that the Democratic Party has to deal with. Every

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Speaker 4: time the Democrats lose. They can't just blame Jill Stein Russia,

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Speaker 4: this group of voters that grew. You have to take

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Speaker 4: responsibility for the campaign you ran, for the decisions you made.

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Speaker 4: And I think you know, and by the way, in

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Speaker 4: a place like Michigan, one thing I said at the

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Speaker 4: time was I think that Donald Trump. I knew that

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump would be worse than Karla Harris on the

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Speaker 4: Middle East and of course, having said that, I could not,

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Speaker 4: I could never and I'm not polishes how to have to,

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Speaker 4: but I could never go to a family in Dearborn,

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Speaker 4: Michigan who've lost like fifty people in Gaza and say

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Speaker 4: you must vote for Carmen Harsh and Joe Biden. That's

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Speaker 4: the reality. A lot of these people in Michigan had

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Speaker 4: lost not one, not two, dozens of family member in Gaza.

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Speaker 4: Wasn't even willing to go there. She didn't even go

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Speaker 4: to Deerborn to talk to them.

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Speaker 1: Trump did listen everyone I knew who was Palestinian. I

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Speaker 1: would say, you know, is everybody okay there? And they

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Speaker 1: would say they're they're dead, They're all dead, like it

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Speaker 1: was just the entire families decimated. But I also think

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Speaker 1: when I think about the when I went to the

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Speaker 1: Democratic Convention in Chicago, one of the things that I

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Speaker 1: saw was that they would not have a Muslim speaker.

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Speaker 4: Talesian woman who was endorsing Harris stage.

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Speaker 1: They wouldn't have her on stage. That was number one.

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Speaker 1: And then they had Hassan Piker there but they wouldn't

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Speaker 1: really let him.

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Speaker 4: That was before he had become a national villain for

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Speaker 4: Fox and Co.

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Speaker 1: Right, But he was there and I saw them. I

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Speaker 1: couldn't tell if they had picked kicked him out, or

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Speaker 1: he had left. It did not seem he was not

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Speaker 1: getting the same welcome that the rest of us were would,

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Speaker 1: which I think is the point of.

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Speaker 4: Their They handled it very badly. And this race in

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Speaker 4: Michigan again, the party establishment basically backed Hailey Stevens, who

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Speaker 4: is the APAC backed candidate, the centrist candy. It's not

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Speaker 4: just her views on Israel a horrific of views on

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Speaker 4: most things are horrific. She's also a robot when you

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Speaker 4: hear her speak. Did you see her go to this

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Speaker 4: ice detention visility to come out and say, well, they've

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Speaker 4: got female guards who can't make the Yeah, exactly, at

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Speaker 4: least the ice detention camps run by women. She's awful.

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Speaker 4: Luckily the poll show she's in third place. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: She's also just a very poor speaker, poor.

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Speaker 4: Speaker, just a completely charisma free zone. Manory mcmurrow is

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Speaker 4: a very good speaker. I remember interview after she first

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Speaker 4: went viral as a state rep many years ago. She's

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Speaker 4: running against Abdulla l Sayd, who is this Muslim American

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Speaker 4: Arab American doctor who ran against Gretchen Whitmer in the

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Speaker 4: gubernatorial primary as a Bernie Back guy a few years ago.

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Speaker 4: He's actually had a boost recently, which is funny because

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Speaker 4: he also got heavily attacked for campaigning with Hassan Piker

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Speaker 4: in Michigan. Guess what, it didn't actually back for him.

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Speaker 4: It actually boosted him in the polls because young people

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Speaker 4: they actually like some of this stuff, funnily enough. So, yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's a very close race. We did a poll visitea

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Speaker 4: recently would dropped Sid. It's a kind of dead heat

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Speaker 4: three ways, but but Abdul seems to be having a boost.

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Speaker 4: Mallory is another strong candidate. She's been criticized for her

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Speaker 4: shifting positions on Israel. Israel keeps coming back to the race.

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Speaker 4: I know it bothers people because the Democratic base actually

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Speaker 4: care about genocide abroad.

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Speaker 1: Well, and I also think it has because it is

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Speaker 1: a really big issue because we are right now in

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Speaker 1: a war with her on that has to do a

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Speaker 1: lot with Netanyah right where net Yah who basically tricked

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Speaker 1: Trump into getting into it. And it's not anti and

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Speaker 1: as a Jew, I'm telling you it's not anti Semitic

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Speaker 1: to say that the leader of Israel is super corrupt

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Speaker 1: and has our president wrapped around his little finger.

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Speaker 4: Well, some peodyle would say this to say that so,

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Speaker 4: but telling true, obviously it's not Andy Smith, even as

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Speaker 4: a non Jew. It's common sense tells you to report

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Speaker 4: what you see with your eyes and ears. Netna himself said,

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Speaker 4: I couldn't you know forty years I waited for Trump

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Speaker 4: to do this war. One thing I would say about

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Speaker 4: Michigan that's really important about the race there, which is

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Speaker 4: people care about genocide. But the other issue is and

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Speaker 4: my good friend Ryan Grim of drop Site, we did

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Speaker 4: the poll together. He made a very good point. He said,

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Speaker 4: Israel is not just about Israel. Apex not just about Israel.

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Speaker 4: It's a proxy for other things. Right, The voters want

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Speaker 4: to see that if you can't stand up to Benjamin Netanyahu,

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Speaker 4: and if you can't stand against these dumb wars that

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Speaker 4: we all hate, why should we trust you on other issues?

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Speaker 4: Why do we see you as a strong person. Biden

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Speaker 4: was seen as weak for not being able to restrain

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Speaker 4: Benjamin Netno. That added to the ambient noise about this

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Speaker 4: guy being weak and just not a strong leader. So

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Speaker 4: it's not just about Israel or Israel itself matters, but

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Speaker 4: also what does Israel stand for? Within the Democratic PARTI

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Speaker 4: debate when it comes to fighters.

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Speaker 1: And I think that we're out of time. But I

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Speaker 1: do think like Hayley Stevens, is the is the weakest

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Speaker 1: of this three candidates. Just when you hear her speak

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Speaker 1: like a person and why you would endorse that person

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Speaker 1: is just baffling ivan establishment.

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Speaker 4: I mean, this is Chuck Schumer. He picks all four people.

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Speaker 4: He doesn't have a good record of picking people.

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Speaker 1: Don't make me defend Chuck Schumer, but he did do it.

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Speaker 1: North Carolina and Ohio both good candidate.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I mean, look, okay, he's not across the board bad,

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Speaker 4: but he has some pretty bad judgments. I think Maine

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Speaker 4: is pretty humiliating. Yeah. Humiliating, Yeah, I think there's all

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Speaker 4: the word but saying humiliation. Look, I think there's a

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Speaker 4: consensus view now that he's got to go. I mean

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Speaker 4: I think both him and he Jeffers both have to go.

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Speaker 4: But Schumer is way more unpopular. You look at the poll,

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Speaker 4: he's more unpopular than he's ever been. He probably won't

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Speaker 4: run for reelection to the Senate because he knows he'll

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Speaker 4: be humiliatingly defeated in a primary, if not by AOC

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Speaker 4: than by someone else. So I think it would be

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Speaker 4: mad if everyone knows he's on his way out for

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Speaker 4: him to try and be leadering him. I've all my

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Speaker 4: position to be very He lost the Senate, so you

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Speaker 4: should have stepped down as leader. Then when you lose

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Speaker 4: an election, you should step down. We should make that

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Speaker 4: the norm in America. You lose an election, you step down,

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Speaker 4: you don't go. I lost, but I'm gonna try again.

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Speaker 4: No lost, Let someone else do it. So the fact

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Speaker 4: that he's still the Senate leader for Democrats is insane

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Speaker 4: to me.

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Speaker 1: Insane. Thank you, thank you, thank you, Maddie. Matt to

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Speaker 1: Masdom is a candidate for Michigan seventh District.

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Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Matt, thank you, Molly. I appreciate being here.

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Speaker 2: I really I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna say to have you. So you are

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Speaker 1: running for a House seat. I want you to tell

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Speaker 1: us who you're running against and what the district is like.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so I'm Att Mosdam.

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Speaker 5: I was the Navy seal for twenty years and I

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Speaker 5: carried the nuclear codes for President Obama.

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Speaker 2: I'm running as a Democrat in Michigan seven.

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Speaker 5: So I would be the first Democrat Navy seal in

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Speaker 5: the House of Representatives ever.

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Speaker 2: And so I'm running against Tom Barrett for the general election.

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Speaker 5: He is somebody who I think is just doing damage

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Speaker 5: to the district with his votes. He's largely absent here

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Speaker 5: and he voted for the Big Bill, and it's knocked a.

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Speaker 2: Lot of people healthcare.

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Speaker 5: You know, it took snap money from kids, took a

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Speaker 5: lot of money from Michigan State, which is a gem

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Speaker 5: in this district, and it has done a lot of harm.

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Speaker 2: So I'm here to kind of.

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Speaker 5: I think it's going to take a veteran to get

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Speaker 5: a veteran out of the seat, and I'm here to

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Speaker 5: help them find a new job.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's just talk about what the district. It's

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Speaker 1: an even district, So tell us what do you have

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Speaker 1: in it? You have Michigan State in it.

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Speaker 5: Michigan State is in the district, yes, And the district

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Speaker 5: goes from kind of Lancing, a little west of Lancing,

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Speaker 5: so it's mid Michigan and it goes over to like

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Speaker 5: the excerbs of Detroit in like Oakland County. So, as

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Speaker 5: we say, in this district, we make things and we

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Speaker 5: grow things. So there's a lot of manufacturing and there's

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Speaker 5: a lot of agriculture in addition to Michigan State.

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Speaker 1: You were a Navy seal, and you would be the

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Speaker 1: first Democratic Navy seal in Congress, And I'd love you

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Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about what it's like to

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Speaker 1: observed and to watch this sort of there's been It

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Speaker 1: feels like a lot of effort and the Trump administration

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Speaker 1: to politicize the military, and I'd love you to just

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Speaker 1: talk about that for a minute.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So, this this war in Iran feels reminiscent of

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Speaker 5: the last couple of Gulf Wars. And so I fought

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Speaker 5: in Iraq and Afghanistan, and you know, we spent we

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Speaker 5: spent billions and trillions of dollars in those countries dropping

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Speaker 5: bombs and rebuilding the roads. I want us to rebuild

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Speaker 5: our roads here in Michigan. So I think that's reasonable.

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Speaker 5: But I've lost, you know, dozens to one hundred friends

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Speaker 5: in these conflicts, and I don't think it's worth spending

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Speaker 5: our blood and our treasure over there.

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Speaker 2: And I've seen no evidence that suggests that.

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Speaker 5: So there's been nothing laid out to the people of

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Speaker 5: the United States or to Congress to say this is

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Speaker 5: why we need to go to war. We don't have

655
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Speaker 5: a mission to say what we're there to do, and

656
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Speaker 5: we don't have a plan, and we don't have an exit,

657
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Speaker 5: and so it's really concerning to see us kind of

658
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Speaker 5: rush in to these places without a concise and consolidated

659
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Speaker 5: idea of what we're there to do. And I think

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Speaker 5: things like the Straits of Hormuz demonstrate that significantly, where

661
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Speaker 5: we probably could have taken the Straits of Hormuz, and

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Speaker 5: if we had done it right, the Navy's good at

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Speaker 5: those kind of things. Instead, here we are kind of

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Speaker 5: back and forth with Iran over and over again. And

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Speaker 5: if we had done this in a planned, coordinated fashion,

666
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Speaker 5: I think it would have gone well. But I don't

667
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Speaker 5: think we need to be there. I think we need

668
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Speaker 5: to be spending our money here at home. I think

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Speaker 5: people voted, particularly to end foreign wars and to keep

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Speaker 5: prices down, and we see prices up and we're overseas again,

671
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Speaker 5: and so I don't want to see that. I don't

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Speaker 5: hear any fervor from the military side to go into

673
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Speaker 5: this war, you know, I think a lot of people

674
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Speaker 5: are they're not head been. They're there to do their job,

675
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Speaker 5: but I don't think they see the reasoning either.

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Speaker 2: And then on the politicization piece.

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Speaker 5: Of the military, you know, I've been really impressed with

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Speaker 5: the military resisting being politicized. I do think heg Seth

679
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Speaker 5: and Trump are trying to do that. When they called

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Speaker 5: all the general officers and flag officers back to Virginia

681
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Speaker 5: to talk to them, I think the military did a

682
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Speaker 5: good job of being fairly stoic. They didn't say a lot,

683
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Speaker 5: they didn't nod, they didn't smile, they didn't clap. You know,

684
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Speaker 5: they listen to what the president said, but they stayed

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Speaker 5: a political and it's good to see that, even amongst

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Speaker 5: halls and desires to politicize the military.

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Speaker 1: What's so interesting about this administration is like they've really

688
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Speaker 1: tried to undo so much progress, right, to undo diversity,

689
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Speaker 1: to undo you know a lot of the kind of

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Speaker 1: stuff that I think has really made the country great.

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Speaker 1: And that's been especially true at the military right they

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Speaker 1: I mean, we saw hags as fire a number of

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Speaker 1: black and female members of military leadership. But it's interesting

694
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Speaker 1: because it doesn't seem like it's working.

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Speaker 5: No, I agree with you I think the military stays

696
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Speaker 5: a political They're there to do their job there and

697
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Speaker 5: they're good at their job, and that should be the

698
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Speaker 5: line that people evaluate, you know, the general officer than

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Speaker 5: anybody in the.

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Speaker 2: Military, is to say, are you good at your job?

701
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Speaker 5: So I don't care if you're a man or a woman,

702
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Speaker 5: or black or white, or gay or not, like.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. Are you good at your job. That's

704
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Speaker 2: what people should care about.

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Speaker 5: And if they are good at their job, let's keep

706
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Speaker 5: them there and utilize in their utmost capacity.

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Speaker 1: At this moment, there's a lot of dysfunction. The administration

708
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Speaker 1: is in the process of doing just quite a lot

709
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Speaker 1: of damage to our norms, to our I mean, there's

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Speaker 1: corruption at large. There's going to be I mean, we're

711
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Speaker 1: going to spend decades trying to dig out of what

712
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Speaker 1: these guys have done. As someone who writes a lot

713
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Speaker 1: about this and talks a lot about this and thinks

714
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Speaker 1: a lot about this, one of the things that I

715
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Speaker 1: have been really frustrated by with Democrats, and I think

716
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: a lot of our listeners have been too, is just

717
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Speaker 1: this sort of you know, we see a lot of like, well,

718
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Speaker 1: I can't do this, or I can't do that or

719
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Speaker 1: I you know, a lot of sort of stuckness, and

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Speaker 1: I'm wondering, like, you know, there's a lot of pressure

721
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Speaker 1: when you get to Washington to just sort of go,

722
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Speaker 1: you know, protect the status quo to a certain extent

723
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Speaker 1: and in order to prevent what happened with Biden, which

724
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Speaker 1: was like you know, he didn't install the people that

725
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Speaker 1: were needed to shore up the institutions. He was unable

726
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 1: to you know, in certain ways, do that that stuff

727
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: that needs to happen this time. Do you feel comfortable

728
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: doing that, like pushing leadership to work in ways they

729
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 1: may not be comfortable, and if they're not, you know,

730
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Speaker 1: voting against them, I would.

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Speaker 5: Say yes, I'm excited to get to Washington, d C.

732
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Speaker 5: And kind of bring a teamwork and an energy to

733
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Speaker 5: this thing. I feel like you do that we are

734
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 5: taking steps backwards and I want to see more fight

735
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Speaker 5: on the Democrat side of things to make sure that

736
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Speaker 5: we're not rebuilding the things the way they were, but

737
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Speaker 5: preserving things that are good and fighting for the Constitution

738
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Speaker 5: right like I took an oath to the Constitution, not

739
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Speaker 5: to a party or not to a person, and I

740
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Speaker 5: want to make sure that we stick to the constitution

741
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Speaker 5: and defend democracy. I think democracy is under attack. I

742
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 5: think we see it every day, whether it is ice

743
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Speaker 5: in our streets. I had particularly visceral responses to that,

744
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Speaker 5: whether it's Iran or whether it's the Supreme Court.

745
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Speaker 2: You know, judgment.

746
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Speaker 5: Today, it feels like we're going backwards, and it's it

747
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 5: is very, very frustrating, and this is going to be,

748
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Speaker 5: like you said, a multi year effort and so.

749
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Speaker 2: But the point in twenty six is we need to

750
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Speaker 2: get out.

751
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Speaker 5: There and vote and stop this administration from doing more damage.

752
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 5: We can get gavels, we can investigate things, we can

753
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 5: speak up and look into the corruption that is occurring

754
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Speaker 5: and make sure that we put a stop to it

755
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Speaker 5: and come up with plans and once we have the

756
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Speaker 5: presidency in twenty eight, really institute and build back, you

757
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 5: know better, the way things need to be. So it's

758
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Speaker 5: a lot to do, there's a lot of big thoughts,

759
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 5: but it's something we can do. America responds well to

760
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Speaker 5: a challenge, and I'm confident it's something that can be done.

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Speaker 1: You know what I think about you having carried the

762
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Speaker 1: nuclear codes for Obama, and it makes me think of

763
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Speaker 1: this last night at four o'clock in the morning, Donald

764
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Speaker 1: Trump trewed a picture of himself off with the I

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Speaker 1: some kind of spread towards the Iranians. First of all,

766
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Speaker 1: just from a purely practical perspective, where are the nuclear

767
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Speaker 1: codes at this moment? And also how worried should we be?

768
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Speaker 1: And also is there any way in which this helps

769
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Speaker 1: the case of trying to get the straits of Hormusa.

770
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Speaker 2: I'll tell you.

771
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Speaker 5: What it doesn't do is make anybody's lives better. And

772
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Speaker 5: so like in my district, it doesn't make anything cost less.

773
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Speaker 5: It doesn't make things safer. People are scared and they're

774
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 5: unnerved and they're angry, and that's reasonable. And when Trump

775
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 5: tweets stuff like this, it only makes it worse. So

776
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Speaker 5: as it relates to the nuclear question, you know, the

777
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 5: codes are always with the president, and so there are

778
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Speaker 5: a bunch of people who several people do the job

779
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Speaker 5: at a times so they can get rest and things

780
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Speaker 5: like that. But you're there with the president all of

781
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Speaker 5: the time, and that job is a big job. So

782
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 5: when you carry the nuclear football, you are in charge

783
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 5: of emergency response for the president. And so it's kind

784
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 5: of everything from say an assassination attempt all the way

785
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 5: to nuclear war. And then you are the point person

786
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 5: for all the assets at the White House, which are

787
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Speaker 5: like Air Force one and the helicopters and the drivers

788
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 5: and Camp David and the food guys.

789
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Speaker 2: It's a very big job. There's a lot of people there.

790
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Speaker 5: So you are coordinating with that group of people with

791
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 5: the Secret Service and the White House staff to make

792
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 5: sure the president can do their job every day. But

793
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Speaker 5: you don't you know, from a country perspective and from

794
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Speaker 5: a world perspective.

795
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Speaker 2: We don't want to see.

796
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Speaker 5: We want to see no rhetoric about nuclear weapons or

797
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Speaker 5: war or wiping something off the face of the map,

798
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Speaker 5: because that's very dangerous talk and it opens a Pandora's

799
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Speaker 5: box that nobody wants to see open, and it only

800
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Speaker 5: results in everybody losing, so bad things come from that,

801
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Speaker 5: and it shouldn't be used as a negotiating tactic or

802
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 5: a bargaining piece. Like it's a dangerous thing to open

803
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 5: that bag, and you don't want it to be part

804
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Speaker 5: of things.

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Speaker 1: So talk us through your primary and what you need

806
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Speaker 1: as a can today right now.

807
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Speaker 5: Yeah, So I'm primary in August and there are a

808
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 5: few people in the race, but I'm the person who's

809
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 5: taken the no corporate pack pledge. You know, as we're

810
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 5: trying to get prices down, I don't think we should

811
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Speaker 5: be taking money from corporations that are trying to keep

812
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 5: the prices up. I've taken a no stock trading pledge.

813
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 5: There's an ambassador in the race who there is some

814
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 5: questions about a perception of her having insider information and

815
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Speaker 5: made some stock trades.

816
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Speaker 2: This is one of those things that we went erruption out.

817
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Speaker 5: And if we're going to call it out hard on

818
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 5: the right, we also need to be honest with ourselves

819
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Speaker 5: from a fairness perspective and doing the right thing and

820
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Speaker 5: call it out on the left as well.

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Speaker 2: From an electability perspective, you know, do a I do

822
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Speaker 2: a very very good job.

823
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Speaker 5: Of convincing the independent voters in the middle to lean

824
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Speaker 5: to the left. That's important because this district is fifty

825
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Speaker 5: to fifty, So I'm forty eight points better at convincing

826
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Speaker 5: independence to vote Democrat, which is a big deal. And

827
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Speaker 5: CNN has called this race the tipping point for the

828
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Speaker 5: House of Representatives.

829
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Speaker 2: The way this race goes.

830
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Speaker 5: Typically the House goes, and so my ability to sway

831
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,879
Speaker 5: that that middle vote is important. And that the guy

832
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Speaker 5: I'm running against, Tom Barrett in the district, is a veteran.

833
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Speaker 5: He was in the Army and he's a helicopter pilot.

834
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Speaker 5: I think it's going to take a veteran to get

835
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Speaker 5: a veteran out of this seat. I think this district

836
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Speaker 5: wants to see a veteran in Congress, and I think

837
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 5: it's important that we put a veteran up in the

838
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Speaker 5: general election.

839
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Speaker 1: And again, like there is a lot to be said

840
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Speaker 1: for not taking corporate pack money and being committed to

841
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Speaker 1: stopping stock trading, which is like an eighty twenty issue,

842
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: it might be even a ninety ten issue. Like voters

843
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: do not like their representatives, or their senators or their president.

844
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Speaker 1: And I do think if you're going to run against

845
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: the Trump cleptocracy, you can't be just a little bit

846
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: of a kleptocrap. You have to be committed to not

847
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: doing any of that. Would that be one of the

848
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Speaker 1: first pieces of legislation you try to get past.

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Speaker 5: It would be great to have a no, you know,

850
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 5: get an anti corruption bill passed where you eliminated public officials'

851
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 5: ability to benefit from insider information or trade stocks or

852
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 5: and it should cover you know, all elected officials in

853
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 5: addition to people who have access to information that could

854
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:37,240
Speaker 5: benefit them personally. So I'm not going to Congress because

855
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,439
Speaker 5: i want to get rich. I'm going to Congress because

856
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 5: I'm there to serve the American people and they need

857
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 5: somebody that's going to fight for them in a way

858
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 5: that is fair and unbiased.

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Speaker 2: And they just want to have progress and get the

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Speaker 2: job done. And so that's what I intend to do.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw this punch Bowl had

862
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 1: some internals that showed just terrible numbers for Trump. You're

863
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: going to run against this guy who votes but is

864
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 1: a backbencher or not a celebrity. What's his district work like?

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Speaker 1: I mean, do you see him and can he defend

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Speaker 1: you know, does he have town halls?

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Speaker 2: And can he defend Trump? And Trump? Is he's mega?

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Speaker 2: And you know in a district that's fifty to fifty.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that goes over well.

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Speaker 5: I have not personally heard him say, but I've heard

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Speaker 5: people say that. He says, if you didn't vote for me,

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Speaker 5: you're not my constituent.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 5: So I'm a firm believer he has a constituent of one.

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Speaker 5: It's Donald Trump. He is absent in the district. I

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Speaker 5: have not seen him one time, never here, and so

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Speaker 5: he doesn't do town halls, he doesn't come around. And

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Speaker 5: if he win, he's here. If he does anything, it's

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Speaker 5: in a very controlled environment with his kind of buddies

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Speaker 5: and making sure that things could just right. So I

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Speaker 5: don't think he's the right person for this place.

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Speaker 2: This is a place where you're gonna be able.

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Speaker 5: You're gonna have to stand up against your own party

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Speaker 5: too from time to time so you can reach across

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Speaker 5: the island get things done. And because it's fifty to fifty,

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Speaker 5: we have to work together, and you need kind of

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Speaker 5: a centristy person, and I think he's not it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank you, Matt.

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Speaker 2: Of course I appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: No moment.

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Speaker 1: Pfecly Jesse Cannon.

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Speaker 3: So when Louisiana Governor Jeff Flandry got elected, a lot

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Speaker 3: of people were warning, like, this is going to be

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Speaker 3: like the next level of Mica Psycho, Like this guy's

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Speaker 3: kind of phone under the radar of being like a real,

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Speaker 3: real kind of like how Mike Johnson was before he

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Speaker 3: got elected as speaker.

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Speaker 1: He really has phone under the radar that is exactly right.

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Speaker 1: And we did see though that a lot of iced

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Speaker 1: attention centers popped up in Louisiana first. So he definitely

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Speaker 1: set the table in ways that maybe we're under the radar,

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Speaker 1: but this no longer flies under the radar.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're now seeing the moment where he steps into

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Speaker 3: the sun and says very loudly, yes, sir, may I

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Speaker 3: have another, mister Trump.

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Speaker 1: So the Trump administration put together the Supreme Court, three

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court justices, all of them SUPERMGA. They did it

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Speaker 1: for things like this decision that came down this week,

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Speaker 1: Conservative six' to three just gutted The Voting Rights. Act

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Speaker 1: what they said was you no longer need to have

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Speaker 1: majority minority. Seats and that was All louisiana needed to

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Speaker 1: redaw the map they already had. Voting louisiana is already

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Speaker 1: voting in primary. Elections and what Did Jeff landry. Do

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Speaker 1: he called a state of. Emergency the emergency is fixing

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Speaker 1: the primaries so That republicans can pick some seats up

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Speaker 1: so that maybe they don't lose The. House they are

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Speaker 1: going to suspend the primary process even though they're already.

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Speaker 1: Voting THE Maga court made a decision to gut The

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Speaker 1: Voting Rights, act and they put this decision out in

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Speaker 1: time to suspend the. Midterms they're going to redraw the

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Speaker 1: maps before the. Midterms they're going to stop the, midterms

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Speaker 1: redraw the, maps And democrats are going to. Lose i'm

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Speaker 1: just curious how many seats in this executive or are

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Speaker 1: they going to lose a few. Seats that's because you

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Speaker 1: know this is what's happened. Here we're going to just

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Speaker 1: go back to redistricting Here trump SAID i want. Seats

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Speaker 1: texas Gave trump five. Seats california was like fuck. That

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Speaker 1: they went to the ballot because In california you have

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Speaker 1: to do a. Ballot they did a special election picked

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Speaker 1: up five, seats so five and five canceled. That then

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Speaker 1: we've just been on a race to the bottom with.

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Speaker 1: Redistricting virginia is going to, Redistrict they're going to Get

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Speaker 1: democrats going to get a bunch of new. Seats that

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Speaker 1: is good because they had to cepe up With, florida

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Speaker 1: which is. Redistricting and now The Supreme court has gotten

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Speaker 1: into the redistricting, fight basically getting rid of majority minority

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Speaker 1: seats as a way to fuck over The Voting Rights

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Speaker 1: act and also hurt people of color in The, south

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Speaker 1: by the, way like seats Like, mississippi if you want

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Speaker 1: to just go down this road from states Like mississippi

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Speaker 1: our majority minority, state. Right but the reason that they

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Speaker 1: are still run by dumb white idiots is because they

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Speaker 1: have so disenfranchised voters in those states that black voters

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Speaker 1: are not able to, vote and they're not able to

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Speaker 1: use their electoral. Power and so here we. Are republicans

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Speaker 1: are going to jerrymander the faugh out of The, south

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Speaker 1: and there we. Go that's it for this episode Of Fast.

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